>>100118707
pedo should've got the rope instead, but it's a start

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How will they monitor it?

why is someone seeing appalling imagery illegal? Is the UK gonna ban death and disease next?

>>100118731
i mean there have been court orders to not use Tor, I imagine some government drone will just look at his internet traffic

>>100118731
The same way they monitor every other kind of CP. Sure, you can't catch every single person who accesses/produces it, in fact you won't even catch the majority. But you will catch a huge number of them, and in the process, you will strike fear into the hearts of other pedophiles which might make them reconsider what they're doing.

>>100118765
Death and disease are good for business. This isn't.

>>100118765
>why is someone seeing appalling imagery illegal? Is the UK gonna ban death and disease next?
What is your argument here? You think it should be legal to look at CP? Shut up pedo.

>>100118707
>a community order and £200 fine
lmao

>>100118810
it should be as legal as pornography in general, ill put it like that

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Shouldn't AI CP be actually incentivized by the government as a harm reduction program? If anything, UK and the world governments should be patterning with Open AI to offer Sora access to their pedophiles.

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>download stable diffusion and install it from a pendrive to a pc disconected from the internet
>prompt the fuck you want to prompt
>no access to the internet means they got no means of knowing unless you go in your way to connect said pc to the internet and upload the results onto the internet

>>100118881
No, they want people to seethe and suffer while they let brown people rape kids

>>100118881
>Let's allow pedophiles to indulge in their fetish, that will SURELY make them more mentally healthy and less likely to abuse kids!
I really really hope you are never allowed to breed, but you're probably an incel anyway so thankfully that's no concern.

>>100118957
It's a sexual attraction like being gay, there's no way to change it. It makes sense that there would be less incentive to produce CSAM if AI supplants it.

>>100118957
>violent video games make people commit violent felonies!

>>100118908
You could do that anyway even before "AI" was a thing. You're naive if you think the only way you could get caught is through the internet.

A lot of the times when you read about some nonce getting convicted for cheese-pizza possession, it's because they were already being investigated for some other crime, and in the process, police searched their private devices and uncovered their dirty secrets.

>>100119027
The age old saying of only committing one crime at a time. So many retards are arrested with pounds of drugs in their cars because they run red lights or speed

>>100118810
>CGI vs. actual images of actual people
cmon now

>>100119019
Being gay is not morally wrong because there's no victim involved, it's just sexual interaction between two consenting adults, thus, we don't need to worry about "curing" people of homosexuality.

But, let's say hypothetically you DID want to prevent someone from having gay sex. Giving them access to an infinite supply of hardcore gay porn isn't going to help them. It's going to make them even more gay. And eventually the porn will stop satisfying, and they'll seek out a real man to bury their cock inside of. The exact same result will occur if you try this strategy on pedos.

>>100119025
FBI search this man's harddrive immediately pls.

>>100118957
Your reasoning is just as retard as the people saying videogames would turn kids into mass murders back in the 90s.

>>100119092
I'm not talking about morals, I'm talking about neurology.
>It's going to make them even more gay
Never been proven anywhere, anytime. Most men watch a lot of porn and very few are raping even as incel rates go up, it's a retarded argument with no substance.

>>100119081
Generative "AI" has changed the whole ball game. These programs are capable of producing imagery that is near-identical to real life photography. And they're only going to improve in future. What happens when "AI" is capable of producing material that is completely indistinguishable from real life video?

>>100119019
We have this debate every day. In some people it looks like natural behavior, in others it looks like a learned fetish, and then there's the weird guys who don't even like children but molest them anyway. There's no consensus and there never will be. Assuming that your preferred theory is true and arguing from there makes you either an idiot or a pedophile. Which is it?

>>100119164
kill yourself pigster, go back to frontlines NOW

>>100118881
They want anything sexual to make you anxious so everything needs a ton of complicated rules that result in jail time.

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>>100119122
>Never been proven anywhere, anytime. Most men watch a lot of porn and very few are raping even as incel rates go up
Most men do not watch rape porn. We are not quite at that level of degeneracy yet.

BUT there is ample evidence that pornography is affecting Gen Z's sexuality in other ways. Young women are reporting astonishing rates of their boyfriends randomly choking them during sex, or demanding anal, because pornography taught them that "women must like these things". The huge rise in "incest" porn has also resulted in a lot of zoomer men/boys developing sexual interest in their family members.

And what about the huge rise in transgender identification in recent years? Nobody will look into it due to it being politically controversial, but I'm convinced that widespread access to online porn in the Gen Z/Millennial demographics had a huge role to play in that

>>100119211
the only argument I need is subhuman slave race alphabet characters in your namefag field

>>100119122
>Most men watch a lot of porn and very few are raping even as incel rates go up, it's a retarded argument with no substance.
There's actually a ton of scientific data that access to porn reduces sexual assault incidences in a community by a very significant margin.

>>100119164
>that image filename
Kys degenerate.

>>100119216
>They want anything sexual to make you anxious so everything needs a ton of complicated rules that result in jail time.
Faggot literally just GO OUTSIDE. Talk to a real woman. Have actual sex by putting your penis inside of a vagina.

You do not HAVE to watch porn. Looking at images on your PC screen is not a substitute for real sexual relations. Holy shit you are so terminally online it's hilarious.

>>100119221
women love being degraded and it's not random, and not caused by porn lmao, what was the rate of women reporting rape again? For some reason it's not 100%

>>100118881
It doesn't reduce their harm. Ask the Lucy Faithfull Foundation - repeated exposure to CSAM (even if art, even if generated) tends to desensitise and worsen paedophiles' ability to control their paraphilia, increasing their risk and making them more likely to harm real people.

>>100119151
I've read the studies, have you?
>and then there's the weird guys who don't even like children but molest them anyway
Funnily enough, they're the majority of people incarcerated for sexual abuse towards children.
Has it ever been proven that porn can make you gay or pedo, or is it just what you feel?
Current data points to most pedos becoming aware of it when they're just beginning puberty, they've barely even watched porn at that point.
>And what about the huge rise in transgender identification in recent years
Cultural zeitgeist and positive affirmation by peers, teachers and parents if they turn trans. It's free positive attention.
>>100119221
>Most men do not watch rape porn. We are not quite at that level of degeneracy yet.
But then how does watching normal porn lead to abusing others, if you have to watch rape porn? You need to be a sadist and a psychopath if you want to rape someone simply to satisfy your own desires, it's not some inherent behavior in all men.

>>100119292
>encouraging delusions does not fix the problem
is there technology that can visualize my shock?

>>100119296
have you considered that watching abnormal amount of porn doesn't cause issues and instead issues cause people to watch abnormal amount of porn instead?

>>100118707
Has the creation of synthetic leather driven up the demand for genuine cow leather?

>>100119296
Like I said, we have this debate every day. Here's how it goes:
1. You make a retarded comment.
2. I say the comment is retarded.
3. You point to some academic sources to support your retarded comment.
4. I point out the sources are biased, obviously invalid or just generally garbage.
5. You never reply back.
All this for something that doesn't even matter. I don't want to do it anymore.

>>100119292
This has never been studied.
But it's correct CSAM should be banned to stop children from being harmed, no doubt about that.
If porn increases the risk of rape, then it should be true across categories. You can't just pick out something morally wrong and assume it's somehow different.
>>100119397
Then why do you keep debating? Oh anon of no bias whatsoever.

>>100118881
1. No, even in a vacuum it should not be allowed. It desensitizes people to pedophilia and helps encourage it.
2. AI image models have to be trained on data to output images relating to the prompts; in order for you to be able to generate 'p with it in the first place, it means there's *real* photographs present in the data sets, therefore it cannot exist separately from real CP and you need to train the model on it to generate it. It should be obvious why that's bad.

>>100118707
time to learn gimp then i guess

>>100119375
>have you considered that watching abnormal amount of porn doesn't cause issues
LMAO. This website alone is proof that this is false.
90% of the men who post here have crippling porn addictions to such an extent it gave them fucked up fetishes (scat, piss, cuckoldry, pedo) and/or turned them into a homosexual or tranny.

>>100119431
My hobby is calling people out when they ignore obvious truths, like that there are six million /b/tards walking around who only started looking at children because of loli threads.

>>100119471
Have you read the rest of my post? midwit. Similarly, this site didn't ruin anyone, they already came here ruined. I cannot imagine someone having a good life and thinking "gonna post on 4chan today".

>>100118707
>£200 fine
But why

>>100119296
>it's free positive attention
You have to be genuinely retarded to believe this. Every year the crime rate against transgender people gets higher, and there are numerous high profile cases where someone is killed just for being trans. It's a net negative, even if it's now possible to be outwardly trans, more than it was before.

>>100118765
>i mean there have been court orders to not use Tor, I imagine some government drone will just look at his internet traffic
?????????
this is software that runs on 10 year old gpus

>>100119146
the fbi will no longer be able to use CP to take down websites from free thinkers and they wont be able to use kid eating and raping as a form of made man blackmail?

>>100119510
explain this to a 12 year old boy on puberty blockers, I cannot stress this enough, he's on puberty blockers, there's no testosterone, the only thing that makes a human intelligent

>>100119027
>because they were already being investigated for some other crime, and in the process, police searched their private devices and uncovered their dirty secrets.
If the authorities are searching your private devices they already want you gone. Finding(planting) pizza is an easy way to accomplish that when they can't actually find any evidence of wrongdoing.
In some cases, they didn't even bother to make sure the alleged evidence was compatible with the target device.

>>100119563
imagine not making your device tamper proof

>>100118881
none of the answers given to you are the real reason. CP is controlled by the government. it's their blackmail and weapon of choice against dissidants. of course they dont want to proliferate a platform that could in the wrong hands, be used to invalidate their control mechanisms. Personally I think its vomit worthy slop but the reality is, the closer this tech comes to being easy to reproduce the less effective the leash is on this globohomo thugs. It's an interesting conundrum, as a loli chad I have nothing but scorn for even safe for work images of kids being online. I dont think anyone should have pictures of humans online. but at the same time, this powerful tool seems to be making a lot of kid eating pedo glowniggers really mad.

>>100118707
>>In another case, a 17-year-old
There's something absolutely surreal about accusing a real underage person of abusing underage people who don't fucking exist. Is it even "think of the children!!" anymore when fake drawings now have more rights than the very people the law was supposed to protect? Jesus Christ.

>>100119397
You start out saying any porn leads to increased risk of rape, suddenly it's only rape porn. Where on this spectrum does AI images fall, it's a nonsense argument with very flexible goalposts apparently. It's the violent video game all over again.
>>100119448
Not at all, transformers can interpolate between different categories. LLM's can write diss tracks in Shakespearean prose, diffusion models can generate elephants with cat ears, even if it isn't in the training data. It's not a database lookup.
>>100119481
I'm not ignoring anything, you're confidently stating something based entirely on your experience looking at random people posting on the internet. You completely ignore the possibility that a certain kind of person browses 4chan, instead of 4chan creating a certain kind of person. Try considering why your own position could be wrong, before you confidently declare victory.
>>100119510
Yeah, because it isn't like all popular media teenagers and kids interact with makes transgenderism seem stunning and brave, while most male tendencies are demonized. A boy picks up a barbie doll, suddenly he has to try a dress and all that shit. It's insanity. Sexuality is not nearly as malleable as self image.

>>100119510
>You have to be genuinely retarded to believe this. Every year the crime rate against transgender people gets higher, and there are numerous high profile cases where someone is killed just for being trans. It's a net negative
It REALLY depends on your surroundings desu.

If you live in bumfuck yokel conservativeville that votes 90% for Trump then yeah, being trans is pretty much a social death sentence.

But if you're in a city, at a university, or just generally in a young and liberal social circle, then let's be honest here, people are going to praise you endlessly if you come out as trans.

>>100119580
it's always been this way.

>>100119580
And if you're Pakistani, you can rape and traffic British kids without any consequences until the plebs start complaining too much about it. Society is insanely retarded, using resources on meaningless political good boy points while real people are hurt through inaction.

>>100119580
Underage boys get arrested for producing CP because they took dick pics all the time. And the best part is when they get charged as adults...

>>100119580
>17 year olds can't be pedos
Come on nigga. If he was generating images of literal children then yes, he is undeniably a pedo. It is not normal to be attracted to kids at that age.

>>100119589
The places trannys get roped are high traffic minority areas filled with joggers.
t. actual trans person that has been chased by nogs
if you don't believe me make a thread about it on /lgbt/ plenty of troons believe in race statistics they just have really dimwitted ideas about politics and really selfish narcissistic views on human rights (IE rights for me but not for thee)

>>100119610
I thought it was Chinese who do it the most

>>100119630
They're more into organ harvesting.

>>100119092
By this logic, incels should be banned from accessing porn of any kind, since it will drive them to rape.

>>100119628
>The places trannys get roped are high traffic minority areas filled with joggers.
The black trannies get killed by other black people. And they get killed for typical ghetto reasons. A lot of them are prostitutes. It's not random indiscriminate transphobic killings like the media makes them out to be.

>t. actual trans person that has been chased by nogs
Damn what did you do lmao?

>if you don't believe me make a thread about it on /lgbt/ plenty of troons believe in race statistics
I'm well aware. The nazi tranny stereotype is an unironically real thing on this website.

But in my experience, the ethnic minority that is truly homo/transphobic is Arabs, other Muslims, and Africans. Not Afro-Americans. In major European cities it's an increasingly common experience for random LGBT people to get assaulted by Muslims solely because they're offended seeing someone who disobeys MUH QURAN in public.

>>100119667
lmao, incels are too effeminate to rape, they literally would rather wallow in despair and if any woman tried to talk to them they'd say equivalent of "kys roastie".

>>100118765
Wanking over death and disease should be illegal, yes

>>100119700
wanking should be illegal, you VILL have sex

>>100118881
>Shouldn't the government give crackheads a free $10 rock in the morning? This will surely stop them from smoking crack

>>100119292
What's special about pedos that exposure to porn makes it more likely for them to act out? We should ban be talking about banning all porn.

>>100119685
>>100119667
Most incels are barely-closeted homosexuals. They don't even like women or find them attractive. Notice how much they talk about "Chad" and how tall and handsome he is, but they never say anything about women they think are pretty. They want their asshole spread and fucked by Chad.

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>>100118776
>The same way they monitor every other kind of CP
> literally has no idea how it works or how they'd catch anyone
sometimes it's just best to shut the fuck up

>>100118881
no.

>>100118957
considering most pedos i read about in news in recent years are mostly females then yeah, the correct incel term applies.

lel I got a three day ban for pointing out SD had cp in the training data, and now there is a whole thread about it

>>100119618
How do you know he wasn't generating images of 17 year old girls though? According to the deranged British law that would just as terrible as generating newborn porn. More so, he can have sex with a 17 year old girl, but underage porn is a criminal offence no matter your age. And, statistically, it's much more likely than he was in fact generating girls his age, and he would still be a criminal FOR ABUSING PEOPLE WHO DON'T EXIST.
Are you so absolutely brainwashed by hysteria propaganda that you seriously defend that a 17 year old boy is a pedo if he looks at 17 year old girls?

>>100119728
Who is "we"? (You) and which janitor?

>>100119728
Yes, porn should be illegal in general. Kid porn should be punished more harshly however/

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>>100119738
guess I never really thought about it like that

>>100119753
British law is actually really light handed with people who look at kid porn. People who look at sadistic shit involving very young children seldom get even one year in jail. It's not like people are getting 20 years like they are in America.

But yes, I agree, having pictures or videos of a girl in her late teens is a far less severe crime than having stuff involving babies or toddlers

>>100119742
4chan is on the payroll of major "AI" companies who blatantly use this website as marketing for their products. I wouldn't be surprised if even the likes of Microsoft/OpenAI are involved in it, but Stable Diffusion definitely are.

Notice how AI threads never get deleted even on boards where they're blatantly off-topic. For instance, /v/ has had a constantly-running Bing AI general for nearly a year now, despite the fact that:
>/v/ does not allow generals
>many of them images in it are not even video game related
>it's openly advertising a microsoft product (every OP links directly to the bing generator)

And if you ever point it out you will get deleted and possibly also banned.

Another thing: Notice how the IP count was recently removed from all threads? My theory is 4chan did this to make it easier for AI companies to astroturf this place with bots for various purposes, without anybody being able to point it out. There's no other reason I can think to remove such a basic feature.

>>100118881
>a harm reduction program
that'd imply that cp leads to harm, which is not a precedent this anime website would root for

>>100119753
>How do you know he wasn't generating images of 17 year old girls though? According to the deranged British law that would just as terrible as generating newborn porn
How would you tell if an AI image featured a 17 year old rather than an 18 year old? There's no real girl behind the image, so she technically doesn't have an age. She would appear to just be a young-looking adult.

The only way you could prosecute someone for AI CP is if the images are clearly of underage people. So I would presume this was true in both the cases listed in OP.

>>100118707
>sexual harm prevention order
And they aren't giving these out to gays because....?
Or, to put it another way, doesn't it violate their anti discrimination laws to give any such order out? It's the current year, we need to love and tolerate and fight bigotry against child gang rapists (as long as they're not white).

>>100119796
>British law is actually really light handed with people who look at kid porn.
not really.
>. It's not like people are getting 20 years like they are in America.
good. the rest of the world doesn't want to be like that third world shithole run by intellectually bankrupt fools.
>far less severe crime
already treated as such by other nations but not in the USA.

>>100119827
government will have an "expert" that will make sure you are prosecuted of wrongthink.

>>100119862
>And they aren't giving these out to gays because....?
Gay adults can both consent to sexual relations with each other.
Children cannot consent to sex with anyone.
Hope this helps! xx

>>100119216
>check out at grocery store
>cashier is youngish
>ask how many cups i can buy at once
>older woman employee walks over and starts filming me
I hate "protect the children" so much. People use it as carte blance to bully

>>100119879
I hope the AI image didn't have it's feelings hurt

>>100119720
A better analogy is 'should the govt give crackheads free methodone every morning?' Methodone's still a drug, still addictive, but with fewer side effects and it scratches the itch and gets the druggies off the street.

Many communities do have govt funded free methodone clinics people can enroll in. It's considered the lesser of two evils. It's still a controlled substance, and someone on methodone is absolutely not clean, but at least they can function in society.

>>100119879
>Children cannot consent to sex with anyone.
they can consent very easily. the reasons why laws exist is so children are not manipulated by adults into consenting.

>>100119904
What if I create a hyper-realistic AI image of you being fucked in the ass by a big fat hairy man and send it to all your friends and relatives?

It's not real, after all, so it doesn't matter. You can't complain about it.

>>100119930
2 more weeks until this happens

>>100119930
The article never said if he made deepfakes, if so, that's illegal, of course. If it's completely artificial images it's completely harmless as long as he isn't sharing them on the internet. My guess is he either used cloud models or posted the images to get caught.

>>100119930
> the mental gymnastics: olympic edition
no amount of pearl clutching and seething is going to change anything. anyone with a collection of whatever porn can make anything they want, including things that hurt your feelings, and there's not one single fucking thing you can actually do about it. not one thing. it's wonderful.

>>100119910
A lot of methadone patients simply sell their methadone and buy heroin, or if they're made to take the methadone on site they catch a mild buzz and go do some heroin later

>>100119999
> just makes shit up
methadone clinics don't let them leave with it, you repulsive lying nigger.

>>100120014
I have literally been to these places you kike

After a week or two they give you 2 weeks worth at a time to take home. Maybe more if you've been going a long time.

I'm in the UK, maybe it's different where you are

>>100119517
well has banned from accessing any service which is online
bongs arent really too bright

>>100119999
This is true. It's not a cure-all. And neither would artificial CSAM be. But it's still better than nothing, and would serve much the same role.

>>100120014
They do once they begin trusting the patient. And then when that patient falls off the wagon... guess what gets sold. Around here it takes about half a year, but eventually they do, namely for weekends.

>>100119292
i used to believe experts some time ago. now i just assume that if money are involved its all lies. if these experts get paid they lie.

>>100119805
If AI generated content is coming (or already here) theres going to have to be some kind of societal adjustment for conversations. Different sites take different approaches (label bot accounts like X, or demand real ids etc) and 4chan is unique in our cultural ability to adapt, so if any social media site is suited to hatch a synthesis of man and machine, it'll be us

>no accounts
>no identities
>only post content matters

whatever communication looks like in an ai-dominated conversation, it'll originate from here the way so much else has, hopefully

ITT tech virgins and leftist discord raiders LARP as armchair psychologists yet again to make arguments that havent changed since the 90s

>>100119164
i have not attacked pedos since 2018 because they are treated like right wingers.

>>100120055
It's also not a research org, it's a harm prevention org. So they mostly deal in people who feel like they can't control themselves, which is in itself a mental illness.

>>100120101
one way or another they are paid not to fix a problem but maintain it. i wouldn't trust them on that mark alone.

>>100119941
It's going to be happening endlessly as generative "AI" becomes more advanced and more widespread.

In fact there have already been cases in the news of young women being targeted by malicious men who use their social media images to create deepfake AI porn and then blackmail them.

>>100119976
>If it's completely artificial images it's completely harmless as long as he isn't sharing them on the internet.
It's not harmless when it looks exactly like a real life child. Just because it's not a copy of a specific child, doesn't mean it isn't a deepfake. It's just a generic one.

>>100119988
>anyone with a collection of whatever porn can make anything they want, including things that hurt your feelings, and there's not one single fucking thing you can actually do about it.
You say this in a thread which is about two men literally being arrested and having their lives destroyed for it LMAO. You are definitely going to end up in prison in a few years time. Enjoy getting bum-raped by Jamal.

>>100120210
>then blackmail them
imagine being this weak

>>100120058
4chan will become completely useless in the next 1 to 2 years because of AI. I mean genuinely, literally useless. This place will become so overloaded by obvious bot posts, scams, advertisements etc that no actual human beings will want to come here. It will slowly dwindle and die until it shuts down at some point in the late 2020s due to low traffic + lack of revenue.

ALTERNATIVELY, if 4chan does survive, it would have to involve ruining the anonymity of this website. Maybe the whole site would have to adopt the policy /biz/ recently has, requiring users to verify their email address before posting. But even that wouldn't hold back the entire tide of bots.

>>100120210
>It's just a generic one.
Exactly like when humans animate or draw something based on a mental representation, which is a derivative of data they've observed throughout their life. Just because it's an ML model doing the same it doesn't make it any worse. I can imagine whatever I want in my mind, how the hell is that any different?

>>100120245
Solution: Captchas become small modifications to the most generic riddles, all LLMs fuck them up.

>>100119897
you shouldn't have asked that innocent child to cup your balls you ecchi freak

>>100120262
>Exactly like when humans animate or draw something based on a mental representation, which is a derivative of data they've observed throughout their life
Humans are not capable of creating media which looks 99% identical to real-life.

AI is, or soon will be.

You would have to be a genuine retard to not see how catastrophic the potential uses of this technology are. And pedoshit is not the only reason.

>>100119827
>How would you tell if an AI image featured a 17 year old rather than an 18 year old?
Well if he put the age in the prompt....

>>100118707
NAI bros

>>100120327
I doubt they'd be able to figure out what prompt he used.

>>100119719
>>100119700
you guys needs to get aids now

>>100120325
We will adapt and improvise, or let the internet die. It might be for the better.

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>>100118731
>How will they monitor it?
They force them to install spyware on their computer, and can be searched/inspected at random if they're suspected to be circumventing it.

>>100120353
Metadata, you dumbass.

>>100120372
>We will adapt and improvise
There is no "adapting" to a technology which was explicitly developed for the purpose of replacing humans, both online and offline.

>>100118707
The UK is such an utter fucking pajeet and muslim infested shithole. That's before you get into it's laws being bullshit, this ruling being an excellent example of why the brits should never be entertained as arbiters of intelligence or good morals.

>>100120403
two
more
weeks

>>100120417
>defending nonces
Sounds like the Muslim here is (You).

>>100120245
i disagree, if 4ch was going to turn into spam because of the no account/anonymity thing, we would have by now
any given thread is still 10x more entertaining than a facebook post or reddit thread. its the quality of the anons that keep coming back. We're creative and mostly white male autistics, so of course we're the most suited to solve a problem. IF its possible to come up with a solution other than tight controls, it'll come from our primordial sperg soup

>>100119827
>The only way you could prosecute someone for AI CP is if the images are clearly of underage people.
That isn't really how it works. Prosecutor consults a "forensic pediatrician" to determine subject's ages, and then the judge/jury deliberate on the outcome of that consultation. This is how it works for genuine CSAM, too; the victims aren't always identifiable so they need to make an informed guess.

>>100119292
>It doesn't reduce their harm. Ask the Lucy Faithfull Foundation - repeated exposure to CSAM (even if art, even if generated) tends to desensitise and worsen paedophiles' ability to control their paraphilia, increasing their risk and making them more likely to harm real people.
>Videogame violence causes desensitization to real violence!
Turns out we've seen your retarded arguments before and they were wrong then and are wrong now, thought crime of any kind should be absolutely prevented excepting the thought crime of wanting to enable laws that punish thought crime. If you are guilty of that, you should be put to death for being unrelentingly stupid.

>>100120403
LLMs are by nature horribly unstable and unable to solve most basic tasks over larger time frames, many more breakthroughs are needed before the real shit happens

>>100120353
anon.... the prompt is in the image metadata. Or easily baked into it with steganography. any stable diffusion cp can eaisly be proved as synthetic, which makes it legal in the US

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>>100120448
this is the final solution

>>100119941
more like 5 minutes

>>100120448
>i disagree, if 4ch was going to turn into spam because of the no account/anonymity thing, we would have by now
Generative AI did not exist until the 2020s. The level of spam, scamming and advertising that has been enabled by the invention of this malicious technology was never possible until now. And it's only going to get worse.

I don't think you realize just how bad it will get. It will get so bad the jannies couldn't even possibly control it even if they tried. Imagine even the slowest boards being spammed with hundreds of posts per minute because some third worlders have set up countless GPT bots to flood the site with advertisements for their favorite shitcoin.

>>100118881
Generating cp is not even close to like 2d/3d loli, its basically as real as you can get without being the real thing, why shouldnt it be illegal?

>>100119085
Fuck off nigger

>>100120515
Because it's a victimless act? You can't really criminalize things if they cause no harm to others.

>>100120515
>why shouldnt it be illegal?
>without being the real thing
Theres a whole series of mainstream Hollywood movies about people getting tortured called SAW, but no one that goes to see them are arrested, not even the actors or the people charging money to see it

>>100120379
even apu is starting to get old

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>>100118707
REMINDER
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY

>>100120515
Fucking lolis in VAM VR feels much more real than any image ever could, but that's completely fine and legal

>>100120484
>LLMs are by nature horribly unstable and unable to solve most basic tasks over larger time frames, many more breakthroughs are needed before the real shit happens
Corporations don't care. It's "good enough" so they will force it to do pretty much everything possible, because it saves the money and effort that would be required to hire actual humans.

The multi-billion dollar companies that are behind funding, developing and promoting artificial "intelligence" (Microsoft, Google, Apple, and so on) have been abundantly clear that they intend to use this technology to replace humans in every field possible, regardless of whether that results in lower-quality output or mistakes. These corporations are headed and staffed by people who are ideologically anti-human.

>>100120549
>Theres a whole series of mainstream Hollywood movies about people getting tortured called SAW, but no one that goes to see them are arrested
Because the films don't frame the torture as a good thing. Jigsaw is the evil antagonist. The torture isn't there for people to enjoy and jerk off to. It's there to make viewers feel disgusted.

>>100120439
more
like
five
minutes

>>100120581
>because it saves the money and effort that would be required to hire actual humans
They can barely solve a tiny coding challenge, and there is a very high chance the output contains a lot of garbage. Their companies will be completely choked as their internal tools and documentation recursively becomes more and more broken. It's not usable yet, not at all.

>>100120538
Sneed autism

>>100120610
two more weeks

>>100120620
>Their companies will be completely choked as their internal tools and documentation recursively becomes more and more broken.
They don't care. They know AI is inadequate in its current state. But their commitment to it is ideological. They hate humans. They want you poor, destitute, out of a job, or ideally, dead. They hate you.

>>100120671
more like five minutes

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>>100118881 there were thousand threads like this before. see image

>>100120750
not clicking that

>>100120750
newgon_net/wiki/Research:_Child_Pornography

>>100120784
not clicking that

>>100120607
>Because the films don't frame the torture as a good thing. Jigsaw is the evil antagonist. The torture isn't there for people to enjoy and jerk off to. It's there to make viewers feel disgusted.
uh huh, they're there to be entertained by being repulsed by something utterly immoral and disgusting. By your logic it should be illegal.

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>>100119720
This is the wrong analogy, the right one be:
>shouldn't the government give crackheads a free $10 rock in the morning? This will surely stop them from robbing and killing random people in the streets

How is this even enforceable?

>>100121083
>How are anti-CP laws enforceable? Guess we might as well just let pedos do whatever they want cause we can't catch all of them!

>>100119092
>consent for me, not for thee
i'm sure it sounded like a good argument in your head

>>100121098
I meant the court order specifically. Unless they ban his access to computers it seems like little more than a scolding.

>>100119146
> What happens when "AI" is capable of producing material that is completely indistinguishable from real life video?
Probably that the CP market will be partially replaced by AI generated videos

>>100121083
>How is this even enforceable?
Just like literally anything in the UK, by making the LAW as VAGUE as is literally possible.

>>100121148
This is quite common in the UK. People who were caught with IRL CP commonly receive similar orders. Some of them do get banned from using the internet entirely, yes.

>>100121150
And nobody would hypothetically be able to tell which are real and which are AI.

This will also make it impossible for police to investigate CP because they'll inevitably waste time looking into videos which look real, but were actually AI-generated.

You may also get pedos trying to defend themselves by claiming their real videos were actually AI, and if the police can't find the real kids involved, then how will they prove otherwise?

How can you not see how huge of a problem this is?

>>100121148
>>100120379

>>100121239
>And nobody would hypothetically be able to tell which are real and which are AI.
Yeah they would. The AI videos would be of far better quality. The vast majority of CP is recorded with shitty phone cams and with incredibly bad lighting, and feature ugly kids. None of that would be present in an AI video.

>>100121291
>The vast majority of CP is recorded with shitty phone cams and with incredibly bad lighting, and feature ugly kids.
And how exactly do you know this?

>>100121291
main source are public torrents that can found in less than 2 seconds in google.

>>100121309
Well..
>>100121313
So prove the opposite. Also, no.

>>100118707
>UK is a shithole news, day 21274987
these news aren't "new"

>>100121309
I'm a fed, my job is to upload cp to small sites so that I can get a warrant and swat them for hosting pedoshit, the sick fucks

I hate this fucking country so goddamn much.

>>100118881
no, because the war on pedos is actually a covert way to be more authoritarian
no wants to be spied on, but since it's to "fight against pedos" and to "protect the kids" normies will accept anything
>why don't you want all of your files to be analyzed and sent to the FBI? are you a pedo?

>>100121390
>NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN NONCERINOS, THEY DINDU NUFFIN WRONG!!!
You have to go back, Muhammad.

How do these pedos even get caught in the first place? I'd imagine you'd have to do some stupid shit to warrant an investigation.

>>100121426
Stay seething, pedo.

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how come the UK is the worst country for anything even remotely close to children when half of the population is indian
and India is picrel

>>100119092
sure gay men consume all the effective ABX and spread mass disease and cost masses in health care

Thats a crime.

>>100121437
Its almost always because they were sharing it around on the clearnet

>>100121603
>AIDS
>monkeypox
>antibiotics
Only on /g/ will you find people too stupid to hate fags coherently.

>>100118707
Porn is bad in all its form. However thinking that your gov is doing that for the children lol. They fuck the children themselves if you're still not aware. And UK is a real shithole for so many reasons it's not even funny.

>>100118707
you'd expect them to be relieved of no actual child harm but here we are
they have to have a grip on the supply chain

>>100121603
>gay men consume all the effective ABX and spread mass disease and cost masses in health care
This isn't true at all, btw. HIV patients are cheaper to treat than your average overweight American.

Wow, uh, five whole years of not using AI.
Really sticking it to him, that's surely going to be enough to dissuade others from doing it in the future.

>>100119253
And get accused of rape, lose my job, and all of my money + house?

>>100121967
If you don't want to get accused of rape, maybe just... don't rape? It's not hard.

>>100119146
Real, genuine children won't need to be permanently harmed by exploitation by perverts?

>>100121341
>7 pedo torrent search engines are still showing on google and still not deleted
oh nonononononono

>>100121453
Go to bed glowie.

>>100122064
One time when googling for innocent image references their image search showed me a butt naked chink baby front and center
For all the filter stuff they put on shit still manages to leak through the cracks somehow

>>100121790
Youd think theres like legislation that says if you dont harm real people the government isn't allowed to dictate punishments for you, or something.
Instead they go "eww, gross imagery" and thats the end of their arguments.

>>100118881
No because banning CP isn't about reducing harm, it's about farming votes from hysterical women. They don't care if kids could be saved by having pedos jerk off to AI, in fact they WANT irl kids to be diddled so they can lock the pedo up and look" tough on crime"

>>100118810
What's YOUR argument? You think CP is illegal because it's nasty, and not because children are harmed in the process of creating it? Get a grip.

>>100122752
That is actually the reason it's illegal yes. Hence the Miller test.

>>100119146
>These programs are capable of producing imagery that is near-identical to real life photography
Not true. AI generated CP just doesn't have the same soul as CP created by real artistés, you can always tell.

ITT: all of the tranime-watching christcucks are going to virtue signal by saying they should have ripped his liver out or something

>Poole

>>100123007
No it's not.

>>100122650
>it's about farming votes from hysterical women.
I think you'll find a lot of blokes don't "like" cp. Particularly those with young kids who don't subscribe to the
>hehe
4chinz mentality.

children, like animals have little agency and very little self protection which means they are unable to be aware (let alone protect themselves from) of harmful activity (sexual or not). That's why parents need to be diligent around kids - to make sure the don't do stupid things.

Pedos prey on kids that are vulnerable (alone, or with parents who aren't diligent) and are opportunistic in that.

Most men will happily see pedos swing from a rafter. May even help them by kicking the stool out for them.

>>100119678
>whjat u do we dindu nuffin
I biked by their street
anyway you clearly never lived in a black majority city

>>100123259
lel

>>100123851
>very little self protection
That's perhaps not even the biggest problem, they have very little protection imparted by adults as well. They have no bodily autonomy and are rarely taken seriously even in straightforward situations and their rights are virtually never enforced.

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>>100124422
>they have very little protection imparted by adults as well.
t. parent of 2 - this is what I meant about having diligent parents. My kids did insanely stupid things. Thankfully I was there to ensure that in balancing out
>learn by making mistakes
they didn't get themselves killed. Or raped to death by pedos.

There are a couple of different arguments here:
1) the "using porn (or sexdolls) to substitute for irl paedophilia" argument - simply slippery slope. When society condones a persons actions to masturbate to ai generate cp or fuck a sexdoll made to look like a child we are just 1 step closer to condoning their actions overall.
2) that children are sexual beings. No. children may be able to be sexualised but the act of sex is in itself an adult activity. It changes any romantic relationship (for better or worse) and children are simply incapable of having the maturity to deal with that sort of relationship. This is normally where the ephebe and hebos come in about teenagers. Which is where the other part of this "adult relationship" aspect comes in: from an age as young as 11 a girl can have her menses. Despite what pedos will say about history no society has ever condoned or encourage childhood or teenage pregnancy as usually that child/teen is not able to properly care for the baby properly.
For pooftas that like little boys - that's just gay.

>>100118765
>why is someone seeing appalling imagery illegal
Why is someone possessing a tank illegal

>>100119081
>>100118846
>surely smoking marijuana has never led to anyone ever doing harder more dangerous drugs, people would never amp up their sexual desires by genrating and looking at realistic inages of adults anally peneteating children, leading them to take advantage of young, impressionable, naïve children. That would be unthinkable.

>>100118881
>shouldn't we give everyone Zoloft and methadone so nobody ever is unhappy or does drugs

>>100119292
Japan proves you wrong

>>100123851
>children, like animals have little agency and very little self protection which means they are unable to be aware (let alone protect themselves from) of harmful activity (sexual or not). That's why parents need to be diligent around kids - to make sure the don't do stupid things.

Have you met a child? They're sadistic little shits who are closer to narcissistic psychopaths than cute animals. Anybody remember being bullied?

I have no idea why people think this about kids. Child soldiers are some of the most psychopathic killers there are. They have no remorse, pity, regret, empathy.

https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/missing-peace/The%20psychological%20impact%20of%20child%20soldiering%20-%20Schauer.pdf

Why do people think this of kids? Back in the olden days, they beat the shit out of kids to discipline them because they thought that was the only way to "speak" sense to such amoral psychopaths. Nowadays kids are defenseless? Fucking bullshit. I don't give a shit about kids but why people think they're cute innocent and defenseless is beyond me. Kids commit terrible atrocities all the time and then we excuse it because they're just kids. Fuck no. Give those little shits the chair. Hang em high in high school.

Anyone who's ever been a teacher knows it's impossible to command them to do anything. They do whatever the fuck they want. Where does this fantasy of "kids do whatever you tell them to do" come from? I'm starting to think only the closet pedos think this way. It's like the closet homos, they accuse everyone of being a homo. "Grooming?" Yeah, good luck with that. More bullshit. It's easier to manipulate adults.

>>100125017
>>100124940
>t. parent of 2
& I'm grandad to 1 now as well.
you're cherry picking, and your evidence is anecdotal at best.
& I am a frmr level 3 teacher. Kids will do what you tell them simply because you're an authority figure.

There's a lot you need to unpack and frankly I'm surprised you didn't touch the sexual aspect. I'm guessing you don't want to out yourself as a pedo.

>>100125054
>Kids will do what you tell them simply because you're an authority figure.
Now I know you've never been a teacher. Complete bullshit.

>>100125054
Furthermore, why bother "grooming" when they just do whatever an authority figure tells them to do without question or hesitation? The internal logic of all this pedo scare bullshit doesn't even make sense. So which is it? Do pedos need to groom or do they just need to be authority figures? It's all illogical and stupid. Kids are psychopaths. The end. When Lord of the Flies was written in the 50s or whatever, that's what people believed. Now kids just do whatever you tell them. Right.

>>100125197
The guy who wrote Lord of the Flies was a misandrist and masochist and probably pedophile.

>>100119019
I don't care, it's incompatible with society and pedos should hang

>>100125244
but enough about da joz

>>100124971
>Some people can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality, therefore nobody can
>Some people lack impulse control and fall down slippery slopes, so everyone does
Stop projecting

>>100125154
now I know you've never been in a classroom.

>>100125197
>Furthermore, why bother "grooming" when they just do whatever an authority figure tells them to do without question or hesitation?
have you never seen a "NICE" thread on /pol/ or listened to "Don't Stand So Close" by The Police?

>>100125368
>we should assume the people who want to have sex with children have lots of self control and gibe them the benefit of the doubt
Yeah no

>>100118707
Why exactly b4 he remembered the cp someone on top posted?

>>100125368
>I have so much self control I need govermnet mandated kiddie porn instead of controlling myself and not engaging in that degenerate behavior
Yeah makes sense

>>100118908
>you walk into the library with tails os on a pendrive and download stable diffusion
>you begin generating a new batch of cheese pizza images when suddenly you look up and notice a male and a female arguing in front of you
>in a moment of confusion, you feel hands reach up from behind you and snatch your laptop before you can switch it off which would wipe all the data
>"we have the suspect's data, and we've successfully apprehended him" you hear a female voice say into a walkie talkie
>6 gorillion life sentences, all because you couldn't resist generating some cheese pizza

ITT: mental gymnnists defending child porn

>>100125313
Don't fucking get me started. I check the early life section of people's Wikipedia these days and I'm never surprised

>>100118810
it's not CP
that's like saying someone getting killed in a TV show is murder, there's no victim either way
you can rightfully call it disgusting either way, but the purpose of CP laws is to protect children, no children are involved with AI image tools

>>100119317
sir, i'm going to have to ask you to refrain from thinking

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>>100119577
Only correct answer. Holy dubs of truth.

>>100119577
sure all pedos are really reactionary freedom fighters that have totes been framed by the govt. because they tried to make all the sheeple wake.
& not because they're fucked up perverts (who were probably diddled themselves) who get aroused at the thought of spunking in a babies vagina or a little boys bumhole.

>>100126709
Its a child
Its porn
Its literally CP

>>100118765
>Is the UK gonna ban death and disease next
did you already forget what happened between 2020-2022?

>>100126709
>>100124940
>1) the "using porn (or sexdolls) to substitute for irl paedophilia" argument - simply slippery slope. When society condones a persons actions to masturbate to ai generate cp or fuck a sexdoll made to look like a child we are just 1 step closer to condoning their actions overall.

>>100118707
What I generate in the privacy of my own bedroom is none of your business, you fucking bigots

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>>100126467
>>100126376
It was never about porn, you faggot. In an ideal world, all porn would be banned. And the government would track and punish CP produces and sellers instead of the buyers. But this is not an ideal world. Pornhub still exists, but the little guy can get arrested for having the wrong pixels or the wrong political opinions on his hard-drive.

The average citizen having the ability to produce cheap high-quality purely digital porn via generative AI destroy big porn's monopoly on it, therefore it must be banned. The average citizen having the ability to produce cheap "unaligned" streams of text via LLMs destroys big government's monopoly on information and propaganda, therefore it must be banned (or at least tightly regulated). And yes, the average citizen having the ability to produce purely digital CP (as disgusting as the thought may be) destroys the intelligence agencies and the Epstein's monopoly on it. So yes, it must be banned.

Unless you're working for the government or one of the mega-corps, you own nothing. You can do nothing. It's immoral and illegal for you to do anything.

Jesus. Stop drinking the pseudo-moralistic cool-aid they're giving you. Unless you're thinking in terms of markets, monopolies, and control, you're not thinking. Even more laws restricting what software you and me can run on our computers will do nothing to stop the child-trafficking rings.

>>100118707
>Create problem by releasing AI and let users make their abominations with it. Send in glowie agents/mkultra'd people to create the contraversial/illegal shit
>Generate a reaction from the public so they ask for new laws banning these things.
>Sell the solution by passing arbitrary laws that include far more draconian measures than what was asked for. These measures build up over time and further enslave the consciousness of the people, turning them into obedient slaves who will do what the kike cabal commands them without question.
>When awakened anons fight against these potential new draconian laws about to be passed, the kikes use their programmed goyim to mass label you as a pedo, conspiracy theorist, schizo, and many other ad hominems.
Gas the kikes, class war now! Fuck all the yiddish parasites and their sorcery, this world needs a massive dose of antiparasitics! Fuck those brood of worms!

>>100126918
Yes, banning bad things is a horrible conspiracy and you have to unlearn morals and be a free thinker instead of being rational.

>>100127010
Trying to hard buddy

>>100127065
>>100127022
Post your ip and credit card number so we can make sure you're not buying bad things or holding bad things on your computer.

>>100127219
>irrelevant non sequitor
Okay

>>100127251
>irrelevant non sequitor
Only posted in response to one, faggot.

>>100119092
>>Being gay is not morally wrong because there's no victim involved, it's just sexual interaction between two consenting adults, thus, we don't need to worry about "curing" people of homosexuality.
that's a dogma

>>100127307
>>100127251

>>100119667
Your insinuation is that all porn depicts rape?

>>100121890
>the treatment is cheap therefore giving people disease is fine
So you'd be cool with someone giving you HIV? Because gays do it at 28 times the rate of normal people

>>100118727
yeah that 17yr old pedo definitely should have been hung for that.

>>100119471
>porn gave people fucked up fetish
In my personal experience, my fetishes formed really early in my childhood. Way before puberty. And way before porn.
I have consumed porn for ages by now. And I've developped no new fetishes.

People don't really change. They just get closer to their true nature.

>>100127368
Roughly 80% do.

>>100125154
You don't have to be a teacher to know that's true. The fuck? Don't you remember being a kid in school? With the exception of delinquents, 99% of kids do what they are told to.

>>100127357
>>100127251

>>100118908
>pedos having the IQ to even install stable diffusion

>>100127908
Kids from your era, perhaps. And only when the authoritative figure was in the room.
Kids nowaday don't.

>>100120448
Wishful thinking. There is no solution. Even Elon couldn't find a solution. The internet is on it's final days

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>>100128029
>Even Elon
Implying some rich hystrion is the ultimate bastion of wisdom on planet earth.

>>100128077
Yeah, I'm sure a gook in some basement with a fraction of the resources can do better

>>100119221
>getting choked during sex
>the ages between 12 and 17
????
did they survey only rape victims?
normally women don't start having sex until like ~21 years old adults
what kind of fucked up place is this "major Midwestern university" where all the child sex victims gather?

>>100127574
gotta cull them early. it's unfortunate for society that you've slipped through the cracks.

>>100128029
>Even a retarded celebrity clown couldn't find a solution.

>>100127614
Yeah no

>>100128325
Trying waaaaay to hard to fit in

>>100121239
>"""problem"""
The only problem here is that reddit newfag niggers like you have infiltraded this board.

>>100118727
Kill yourself, newfag nigger tourist.

>>100119685
You ARE an incel if you post on 4chan. Lmao, pathetic whimsy incel cuck.

>>100129383
reddit.com

>>100128000
It's more normal than you think, I even fine tuned it!

>>100129608
Exactly

>>100118707
>oi mate, you got your AI loicense?

>>100119910
Methodone clinics are the most useless shit imaginable.

>>100129676
why do you have to be in every corner of the internet and bend it your way?

>>100129448
you first autistic retard

>>100126656
don't care, vandalism is still a thing

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>>100118707
Pedos should get the rope, obv
>sexual harm prevention
But who was sexually harmed?

>>100129919
did you not read, deepfaking a girl's face onto porn is basically raping her
think of how many girls he just raped
also, generating images of naked children, not only are you enslaving them and sexually abusing them you are also creating cp which is obviously increasing the market for sexual harm towards minors
they're rapists, sex traffickers, child molesters, and cp distributers, they should get the death penalty yet all they get is 5 years without a computer

>>100118707
Whats the argument anyway, that it was composited from images of actual children or something?

>>100130514
no, dummy
even if it was drawn completely by imagination
if it looks like a child, it's illegal
loli is illegal in the UK

>>100130593
Typical of british bread and circus politics
Ban something meaningless to make it look like they are doing a good thing

>>100118707
>go to Bing
>...

>>100127401
>So you'd be cool with someone giving you HIV?
I didn't say anything like that at all, so I'm not sure how that was your takeaway. Very bizarre logical leap.

>>100130749
Most of the world shares similar obscenity laws. USA and Japan are among the very few exceptions.

>>100119049
That's all bullshit. Any time somebody was caught on a highway muling product because they were speeding or had a taillight out, that's a lie. That's feds protecting sources and keeping operations quiet. 99% of the time.
t. knowera

Nice to see a real pedo argument without any irony for once.

Do you have to register as a sex offender if you're called to jury duty for a child porn case and are not offended by the evidence shown?

>>100132106
Try to hide your boner at least

>>100118707
>abuse material
Interesting. Whom is being abused?

>>100132214
the law

>>100132214
>Whom is being abused?
learn english, niggerfaggot efl subhuman.

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>>100132277

>>100132277
seethe

>>100126910
You generated your son in your bedroom and he went on to call me a cocksucking faggot on the Internet so now it is my business.

>>100124957
Exactly. Why? No good reasons.

>>100132505
I suppose "owning" and "driving" are two different things.

>>100132656
You should be able to drive tank and use it to defend your property as much as you like.

>>100124971
the most retarded argument

>>100126815
its literally not a child, therefore not cp, that's what the other anon was getting at but you're too dump to get it

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>>100118707
>use AI to generate lolis
>the government bans you from using AI
>use pen and paper to draw lolis
>government bans you from drawing
>imagine lolis
>the government forces you to get a lobotomy

>>100132214
The idea is that what the image depicts would be abuse if the person(s) in it were real.

>>100132866
Oh noes! And?

>>100125007
kek do they though?

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>>100132811

>>100118731
Generally they won't, but if he is caught taking pics of children again they will investigate him. If they find he used ai tools they will have some grounds to jail him

>>100124971
Why not ban gore? Surely it might further incentivize someone to commiting violent killings on their own?

>>100119577
this nigga knows

>>100118957
>I really really hope you are never allowed to breed, but you're probably an incel anyway so thankfully that's no concern.
this a perfectly acceptable and morally sensible compromise to make, in my humble opinion on the subject.
there still needs to be more vigilance against pedo uncles though, which I know some of (You) fags are

>>100119092
> no victim in homosexuality.
The homos ARE the victims when they blow eachothers asses out on earth for no reason, and then burn in hell 50 years later when they die.

>>100133012
gore should be banned. There's no reason for it to exist other than desensitize people to death.

>>100133503
>and then burn in hell 50 years later when they die.
and then the dementors banished the evil wizards to azkaban

>>100118881
Everyone is strawmaning you as though you’d want to give out drugs to fight drugs.
But the better comparison would be giving out fake drugs.

Eh, I wouldn’t be one to publicly encourage it.
AI will eventually make real pron completely irrelevant anyways regardless of whatever is encouraged or not.

>>100132787
>but you're too dump to get it

>>100133012
>why not ban gore
Yeah why not I agree

>>100118707
Interesting article, but what were the charges? Which law did he break?

Another thread full of Satanic panic era misinformation.
Read law journals & criminology if you actually want to learn about the topic instead of sensationalized mass media garbage.
Most child victims of sexual abuse are victimized by their parents, other close family members, or trusted authority figures like teachers or church members.
Strangers almost never commit these acts, read some actual survivor accounts.
Most cases are never recorded or shared.
Pornography in general does not lead to an increase in sex crime, but the opposite, a consistent pattern that has been observed in numerous countries since at least the 80s.
Even for illegal shit, simple consumers in general do not transition into committing real-life acts. just as people who watch cartel videos usually don't transition into burning people's faces off.
A huge chunk of content treated as "CP" in numerous countries like
>>100125007
doesn't even feature any sexual depictions, nor even nudity in most cases (Japan). The definition as pornography is purely a legal one.
Government laws aren't created for the sake of children.
The UK government has been involved in numerous high-profile CSA scandals and cover-ups, including numerous stories involving high-ranking politicians and celebrities.
When politicians invoke either children or terrorism, it's really a precedent to further the surveillance state, governmental control and curtailing civil liberties.
A lot of illegal darknet sites & torrents are really just fed honeypots. CP has become a matter of quotas at least in the US, which is why they do shit like spamming fake hyperlinks onto boards.
Numbers are inflated, when you hear shit like "500TB of CP", it really means they confiscated electronic equipment with that total storage capacity. For videos, every single frame is counted as a picture.

>>100132775
You sure debunked him

>>100120379
Good luck porting it to temple os.

>>100130034
can't tell if bait

>>100123259
kek

>>100132387
go to bed

You can have a situation that unarguably does not involve any real victims or caused harm to anyone, and people will still advocate for violent torture and death penalty simply because it makes them feel icky. What a waste of resources.
Gangraping real underage girls is fine, but oi m8, drop that unloicensed CGI in the bin before I bin you!
Bongland's a joke and normies aren't human.

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>>100118707
Don't worry I'm only into 2D girls

>>100134334
>unarguably does not involve any real victims or caused harm to anyone,
Its possible to abuse yourself

i guess you gotta draw the line at some point

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>>100118707
Meanwhile the Maharajah of Cunny won

>>100119221
kys simp

>>100119618
>It is not normal to be attracted to kids at that age.
It literally is, rape is also natural.

>>100135580
you first pimp

>>100135545
Kek, legit tho
How is it a crime to simply watch the recording of a crime?
Answers pls that go beyond it's gross/it's just wrong
If I watch a CCTV video of a homicide, am I killing the victim over and over again by hitting play?

>>100135844
>How is it a crime to simply watch the recording of a crime?
The idea is that consuming pizza material creates more demand for it, and some rich pedos will pay obscene amounts of money for it.

>>100135545
>Maharajah_Of_Cunny
lol

So many pedos ITT. Your preference for children is not normal and will never be normalized, no matter how much you argue and whine on the internet. You will never be a normal member of society and you should probably get chemically castrated. Face the facts that:
>people can become pedos after literally sustaining brain damage
>tons of evidence of it being a neurological dysfunction
>weirdly associated with schizophrenia and other severe mental illnesses.
>most pedos were traumatized as children and don’t realize they want to perpetuate the cycle.
It’s kind of funny, really.

>>100119728
Because the people they're sexually attracted to are children and are even more defenseless than women. once they get horny enough, they know they can easily psychologically manipulate and/or physically overpower the target of their lusts and have their way with them. this is true no matter how fat and out of shape the nonce is.
contrarywise, the typical incel coomer who winds himself up by watching age-appropriate porn knows in the back of his coom-brain that an adult woman is much more of a challenge to subdue.
but you can bet anything that many gooner coomers would take the opportunity to abuse an unconscious person or a corpse.

>>100136301
Your gov is full of pedos, so they sure won their place in society lol

>>100136301
>You will never be a normal member of society
kek

>>100136353
So the only difference between girls and older women is that it takes more time to psychologically manipulate older women

>>100136417
socially inept retards can still trick little children. an adult woman would get the ick and call upon some white knights to stomp you.

>>100136301
but this is the slippery slope argument (in reverse), remembering that being gay and trans were both deemed to be "mental illnesses" by the WHO until relatively recently.

>>100118707
i feel like having him use ai is better than him going out and actually doign stuff to kids
its like containment

>>100128181
omg you're gonna go kill anon for us? you're my hero~ <333

>>100119754
Me and my personal 4chan trannyjanny who is also a proud pedo. Say hi.
>>100133907
>words words words
Another troon groomer child rapist speaking xeir mind, a win for the LGBTQMAP community <3

>>100120750
Why don't you tell us what's in that link?
>>100125017
>child soldiers are fucked up, that's why children are more eviller than adults
I don't have an image for this right now, I only have this. :|
>>100125197
Here's another ((( :| )))
>>100125530
I don't go to the pool. What's a NICE thread?

>>100137842
a bit new but here you go
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/teacher/filename/nice/

>>100137898
o_o I do not like that. I think I will not visit /pol/ for a little while longer.

>>100138074
it's a lovely place - great sense of community and very, very welcoming to all

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