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>>100118701
Posted before previous thread hit bump limit. OP is spam.

>>100118741
Thread before last (milk spill) was posted when the other thread was 1/3 of the way to bump limit and it was fine. Gonna cry? Just because the AMD fanboy had quicker hands? STFU untouchable

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>>100118741
da fuck you gon do bout it lil bitch?

>>100118701
Are there any concerns with running your PC with a single NVME for OS/Games/Downloads, etc, or is it better to get a 2ndary SSD for games and etc while keeping OS on the NVME? Maybe partitioning?

do you think it would be dumb to get a 7800X3D RN or just wait(TM) for 8800X3D

>>100119621
Are you unhappy with your current CPU's performance?

>>100119692
yes in some games

AMDjeets are really insufferable and annoying :(
was going to get battlemage when it comes out but I’ll get a 4090 instead :3

>>100120104
In the end you'll have to decide for yourself but "in some games" doesn't sound like you're struggling so if you can wait, you should probably wait. The nearer we get to the release of new CPUs the better you'll be able to judge if they're a meaningful upgrade over the 7800x3d also

>>100119063
buy more intel and nvidia stocks and products ;)

Can I get some suggestions/recs for a 1440p gaming build? Trying to stick around 1200-1300 USD. This is what I've picked so far.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage: Corsair MP600 CORE XT 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

I'm still trying to decide on the GPU and case
GPU: Either 7900 GRE or 4070 Super, is the $50 extra for the 4070 is worth it for non-gaming stuff like video super resolution
Case: mATX case on the smaller side, mostly considering Sama IM01 Pro or Asus AP201

I've seen in a couple of threads anons recommending to stay away from the 7900xtx but I don't understand why. It seems like the cheapest 4k gaming card and it looks like we will have to wait for a long time for a better option since AMD's new line up won't be as strong and Nvidia is Nvidia.

have you noticed that PSU prices are inflated? is it because of miners? they even sell 2000W PSUs marketed specifically to miners. seasonic focus GX ATX 3.0 750W was somewhat reasonably priced, but went out of stock on amazon before the auction i was looking at ended. people bid almost full price even with the most important 24 pin and cpu 8pin cables missing.

>>100121012
If all you're doing is gaming then it's a good option, especially since you can find some models new around 800 USD.
For productivity tasks though Nvidia is still generally the best overall GPU maker, though if you run Linux you're likely willing to deal with any extra hurdles you'd have to clear to work with Radeon as Nvidia has similar, if not worse, problems on that OS.

So I finished my first build and got everything set up last night. I was concerned I messed up installing the cooler. Loaded Cyberpunk to test settings. Was averaging low to mid 60c with settings maxed, peaking at low 70c. That's good right? 7600x btw, which everyone says runs kinda hot.

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>>100121012
Because it's only slightly faster and cheaper than the 4080S without any of the features or software support. If the 4080S is selling for ~$1000 AMD's equivalent needs to be selling for at least a $200 discount. Especially considering the 7900 XT has already dropped below $700.

Both the XT & GRE are far better positioned price-wise to their Nvidia counterparts.

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Going to Microcenter soon.
Gigabyte board is apparently worse...

>>100121266
At least where I'm at in the states is significant cheaper. I can get a new 7900xtx for 850 or a used for around 700. The 4080 super new prices are usually 1100 and the used aren't selling much cheaper. That's a big difference in price for an overall slower gpu.

>>100121012
it's a great GPU.
it's more expensive than it should be, like all >700 usd gpus, but I'd go with it all the time vs the 4080S

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also not sure what the number is, but screen-off non-sleep idle seems to be a negligible amount of power
and I do have a 4K video wallpaper so mine may not be the best representation of idle for others

>>100121350
They're both basic bitch (but overpriced) entry level boards, and you wouldn't ever consider them if it weren't for the bundle. But they're fine. MSI has an easier to access M.2 card to swap out the godawful stock wifi, Gigabyte has more USB ports.

It’s shocking how much faster Optane from 2018 is than 2024 NVME’s

>>100120744
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2rDd28

Just a smidge over $1300, downgrade the 4070 Ti Super if you need to stay in budget

It's my first time building a PC instead of buying a prebuilt one.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HQ7CWt
Any opinions or recommendations? My budget is $1500 ±200 in the states

After the whole EK mess, idk who to trust anymore
I see shilling of any product and that negative bias within the human brain kicks in on steroids
Also, why are those Corsair link fans so pricey? Sure they all daisy-chain together but, in terms of performance, they suck. Like, really suck. You could even see each individual diode, so even the RGB is ass.

>>100122605
You can basically take this build as is >>100122575 and just swap out the case (and maybe mobo) if you don't care for mATX. I wouldn't go with the 220T though, it was a mediocre case even when it came out 4 years ago, and absolutely ridiculous that its still somehow $120.

>>100122663
>Also, why are those Corsair link fans so pricey?
Because Corsair moved their market to catering to a subset of RGBfags that wants everything under one ecosystem, since outside of fans and pump head they also do light strip and towers and all that jazz (plus the usual KB&M). Basically the Apple of unicornpuke. Their daisy chain stuff is also over a year late, Lian Li was first to the market a year ago and other manufacturers followed them soon after.

>>100122605
get the 13600kf instead if it's the same price

Im using a 3060ti for 1440p gaming, its almost enough but sometimes im getting below 60fps on modern games. I'm considering the 4070 super. Any opinion about the 4070s? Seems like a good upgrade from a 3060ti (like 50% more fps).

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>>100122904
breddy close to double lol. My buddy just went from a 6700XT, similar performance to 3060ti-good drivers, to a 4070 super and he's over the moon. He got a 1440p 240hz monitor to go with it.

Do 5 fans case fans make a difference?

>>100122663
wtf are you talking about
the most basic, surface level research into pc watercooling will tell you EK is a scam

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>>100123062
Its 5 too many

Do you guys know about PC speakers? I'd like get some 2.1 speakers and I'm not sure what's good and not overpriced, I've had some Logitech 5.1 X-530 speakers for about 15 years now and they've decent but are having some issues, so I'd like to replace them.

>>100122684
Would I be sacrifing anything by switching to the build you suggested? Other than that, thanks Anon

>>100122886
Will be on the lookout if it goes on sale, thanks

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>>100123062
Not really. After 2 intakes and 1 exhaust you hit diminishing returns hard. Moreover if you run air cooling on the CPU placing extra fans at the top/bottom for exhaust/intake can harm cooling because it introduces turbulence of vertical airflow columns that fight with the horizontal airflow from the front and rear.
https://hardwarecanucks.com/computer-cases/how-many-case-fans-do-you-really-need/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaDFTNe8aAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OmkmluAYAQ

>>100118701
Which motherboard has the highest USB-C power delivery?
Looking for a motherboard that can charge my phone, fast.
Found out most motherboards can only deliver 5-10W over USB-C PD.

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can you suggest better things for like, $190 max? All the parts here are the best for their price point according to all the tier lists and stuff I've read online or at least, decent enough that I won't have any nasty accidents (C). I have an SSD lying around and am sourcing a 3600 from chaina and a case locally so that leaves the gpu which I will get to eventually. I'm importing all of these things to my country so I'm paying something more on top (most things here suck, imagine paying $600 for a rtx 4060 8gb)

>>100121424
>The 4080 super new prices are usually 1100 and the used aren't selling much cheaper. That's a big difference in price for an overall slower gpu.
The Founders Edition's been in stock for the past two weeks or so.
https://store.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/store/?page=1&limit=9&locale=en-us&category=GPU,DESKTOP&gpu=RTX%204080%20SUPER&manufacturer=NVIDIA&manufacturer_filter=NVIDIA~1,ASUS~3,CYBERPOWERPC~2,GIGABYTE~5,MSI~2,ZOTAC~3

The difference in raster performance between the two cards is less than 10%, you won't even distinguish which card a system's using on a blind raster test.
You'll know when you're using a 4080 Super if the test includes upscaling and RT.

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>>100123406
Main saving areas:

>12600KF vs 12700KF
Biggest loss, but marginal difference for gaming, see pic.

>DDR4 vs DDR5
Alder Lake/12th gen has awful RAM scaling, and even on 13th gen its a marginal performance gain.

Other than that its just picking better valued options for the PSU/SSD/GPU. With the ~$350 saved you can pocket it, get a GPU upgrade to the 4080 Super, or swap to AM5 to have a bit more of an upgrade option down the line for CPU. The 13600KF/14600KF is also an option you can explore, but for just gaming the 7800X3D tends to be better, the effect of the large L3 cache on gaming performance don't easily show up in benchmark but can easily be noticed in real world usage, especially if you play something a bit more CPU demanding. Intel wins out if you need CPU grunt for non-gaming tasks though

>>100118701
No stupid questions thread, maybe you guys will know:

1440p is much more demanding than 1080p, but how does the performance of say, a 1080p 24 inch monitor at native compare to a 27 inch 1440p monitor but scaled to 1080p? I know it's recommended to play a native but I'm curious as to how this works in practice.
Thanks

>>100124173
>I'm curious as to how this works in practice.
im practice, you'd use either dlss or fsr

games that have neither are either very old or indies. in both cases, easy enough to run at native 1440p for even relatively weak modern gpus.
and games that are demanding enough to need more, will have some sort of upscaling available, either dlss or fsr or both.

now, if you're using dlss on the quality setting, you can generally expect to get more or less the same picture quality you'd get at native 1440p
it varies from game to game, some being better than native, others being roughly equal, others being worse. but on average, lets just say you should expect about the same quality overall as native 1440p, for roughly the same perf cost as 1080p.
with fsr, you'd expect less quality. again, it varies, and here it also varies with fsr version. fsr1 is significantly, visibly worse than dlss, and the picture you'd get would be visibly worse than native 1440p. fsr2 is better, but still worse than dlss. and ofc, you'd still get this for more or less the same perf cost as dlss.

>>100124225
Do competitive FPS players on 4:3 resolutions use DLSS or FSR? I don't think so. I appreciate your attempt to answer and your enthusiasm about this technology but this really isn't the answer I'm looking for.

>>100124334
Then why are you asking about 1440p, retard? Go be a shithead somewhere else

>>100124334
>Do competitive FPS players on 4:3 resolutions use DLSS or FSR?
ofc not.
those players are playing esport titles with overpowered PCs, they are nowhere close to requiring upscaling to hit acceptable frames.
upscaling is what you use when you can't run the game at native res at acceptable fps
given how good dlss is, i suppose someone might also use it just to reduce gpu load and hence noise/heat, but that's beside the point. in the general case, its a crutch to help with fps.

>>100124438
Does having a 1440p monitor preclude you from scaling to lower resolutions?

>>100124460
If you care this much about retaining system performance in your competitive fps games, you'd stay on a high-quality 1080p monitor.
You're probably pretty shit to make the most out of such system anyway.
It's always bad/mediocre players making a big deal out of their PC performance.

what specs are you all on and when do you see yourselves upgrading? I'm on a 12400f, 32gb ddr4 and a 3060ti and I'm good till at least '27

>>100124528
>13900ks
It uses too much power even when current/power limited not to mention the inconsistent I/O performance compared to my old 9900ks so its getting replaced when the 9800x3d drops.
>4090
I'm staying with it until 2026 at the minimum. Its too good to replace anytime soon

>>100124511
You are just one insufferable faggot huh?
My initial question was so simple and 4 replies later I've yet to get an answer. ChatGPT came closer in 2.
And no, I'm not making a big deal out of my performance or whatever gibberish you are projecting onto me apropos of nothing.

Also id caution you about getting into a dick measuring contest with me because if you turn out to be worse than me( who lives in the 40-60 fps range), you will look pretty fucking stupid

>>100124658
Go grind more matches, become a better player, earn more money to pay for a better system if you want one, and quit being a fucking retard in this thread.

>>100124693
Ah so no comparison, stakes clearly too high for you. My new PC is bought and paid and I can't wait to rape scores of retards like you when I get it going.

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>poorfags cant afford

>>100124705
The fact that you show up here to ask such dumb fuck questions shows you're beneath me.
Go learn what a video card and a monitor do, ask ChatGPT about that you fucking abortion.

>>100124568
>13900k
>4090
jesus, how much power does that draw?

>>100124736
You got stumped by a clearly stated stupid question and now you are throwing a tantrum. But keep talking about how superior you are and not demonstrating it in any way.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i79q7X6cl-0
Dlss bros...

>>100124757
I already know the answer dumb fuck and I'll give you a hint; the video card is rendering the game at the same 1080p resolution.

>>100124750
Not that much. The cpu draws 100-200W while the gpus draws 300W (stock) or under 200W when undervolted

>>100123286
Who is winning with EK? The highest of the high overseas? Assuming they aren't cartel'd?

>>100124709
Are you a poorfag angry or a richfag with more money than braincells? Can't tell without more context here

>>100124757
Being completely honest, it was you who started replying like a complete fucking retard. The question was extremely stupid in the first place even a 12 yo into tech could tell you the answer.
Of course the other anon was going to call you out for being so retarded (and evidently bad at competitive videogames) get a life

>>100124778
And for the record are you the same retard whose first intuition was to respond with a shillpiece for upscaling completely out of the blue? If so why didn't you save yourself the tantrum and the humiliation and reply "about the same but the visuals will be weird"?

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>>100124820
I'm not the same guy you schizophrenic idiot.
Quit embarrassing yourself, fuck off, and grind more "competitive fps" games, you don't deserve a good gaming PC.

>>100124528
7800X3D + 6700XT. Only reason I upgraded from my 5600 was because of WoW Classic, else I don't notice any day to day difference. Was just going to nab a 5700X3D, but managed to get a 7800X3D for only ~$50 koalabux more. My previous setup was a Haswell Xeon E3 + 1050 Ti.

>>100123286
What isn't?

>>100124815
If a 12 y/o could easily answer what does that say about the rest of you

>>100124835
So your first foray into the conversation was to call me a retard and a shit head? For asking a stupid question? If that's not a humiliating tantrum I don't know what is.

>>100124924
I'm the guy that told you to stick with a 1080p monitor if you care this much about your system's performance in "competitive fps".
Seriously, quit embarrassing yourself and fuck off. Go talk to ChatGPT.
Posers like you are the worst.

>>100124943
You type so much but say so little. No amount of insults will make me stupider than you.

Is Newegg still good to buy from if you ignore the third party trash, or is there a better place now?

>>100124960
I know for a fact that a gamer who's equally retarded as you will perform better on a 1080p 24" monitor compared to you playing on a 27" 1440p monitor at the same 1080p resolution.

>>100124969
Newegg's fine if you buy new & sold by Newegg or by the component manufacturer.

>>100124976
Thank you.

What's the consensus on PCIe 4.0/5.0 NVMe drives? Do they actually help for gaming or general usage or not?

>>100118701
what sort of temps should i be getting with a 7600 non x with a dual tower cooler? on idle i'm getting roughly 40c and probably around 65 or so when gaming under load, something like rpcs3 pushes it to probably 80ish which is to be expected. are these temps normal? i only barely had enough thermal paste for my cooler so i want to make sure the temps are right before i keep on using it

>>100125089
Not really, but Direct Storage is expected to be utilized more often in games someday, and it has a minimum requirement of a Gen 3 NVMe drive.
The cost difference between a Gen 3 to a Gen 4 drive isn't that significant.
The difference between a Gen 4 NVMe and a SATA SSD isn't that big either.
I think only Sabrent makes a Gen 5 NVMe drive that runs relatively cool, and they're too expensive to use for just gaming.

Plenty of tech tubers ran comparison gaming/loading benchmarks.

>>100125107
The temperature seems normal, link below shows the operating temperatures of your CPU cooled by a NH-U14S (single tower, 1x 140mm fan).
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-7600-non-x/23.html
The CPU cores are set to run at its highest stock boost clock at up to 95°C if the workload demands it.

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First full PC replacement build I did on my own, emptied my old C70 Vengeance case. I did clean it with towels & air pressure, but some of the dust was really sticking there, so I just said fuck it after dusting off the bigger areas. I just left the DVD tray inside, because I didn't have anything to replace it with currently, like an USB hub. Sorry for the GPU cable mess at the bottom, but there was no room left on the back, the fat mobo cable almost made it impossible to close the case. I will replace those old Corsair fans on the left and right, they quity noisy in idle. I'm probably going to get my ass torn apart for how it looks. CPU Temps wise it's 40 degrees Celsius in idle and reaches 60-65 in games. Stress test in Furmark didn't show any signs of bigger heat problems either. Other than that everything seems to work fine.

>>100125436
The cabling's mostly fine, and the dust doesn't seem too bad in the areas that matter.
Congrats.

>>100125436
Reminds me of my old Haf 912. I miss it sometimes

>>100125362
ah it's running similar to that now, it seems like the paste was just enough. for some reason though my temps have dropped like 7-10c overnight and I'm running 40ish idle 60 flat gaming and 68-72c for rpcs3 despite having no programs running. maybe there was something running in the background in my last test that made it run a little hotter or something. i had a little left over from my last tube of paste and i thought i'd try to use that up before opening the new tube, had barely a pea sized amount, probably a little less but it seams like it did the job. thanks for the help

Compared to the contemporary, would Haswell server cores and PCIE 3.0 hurt hobbyist AI noticeably? I'm discovering the Aliexpress X99 + E5-2600 v3 CPU bargains.

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>>100126088
You can get one of these instead or the cheaper 9980hk, 11600kf variant

My 3080 is toasted. Should I get rtx 4070?

>>100126349
7800XT or 7900GRE

>>100126359
Didn't people say AMD always has driver issues?

>>100119320
nah, samesame. back in the days you had the os+games on a fast ssd/hdd and data on the other. Nowadays it doesn't matter.

>>100126384
That's the 4070 read the OP

>>100126384
Nvidia has more driver issues on Linux and Windows in 2024.

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I've bought Huananzhi B660 ITX board, paired i5 12400
And it's fine. No complaints.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wtCWvj

How's this for a high-end gaming build? Anything I should add? Anything I could drop?

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
ASRock X670E Taichi EATX AM5 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card
Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case
be quiet! Dark Power Pro 13 1300 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

>>100126408
>>100126416
Does AMD GPU run wells on emulators?

>>100126505
yes

>>100126535
Nice. Do R7 5800x still hold up or should I upgrade to R7 7800x3d?

>>100126505
nope emulators work best on nvidia

>>100126556
for ps3 emulation, sure
anything else you should see whether you are cpu limited and then manually tuning your ram for free performance

>>100126592
I can believe that if you provide some benchmarks

>>100126610
worst case scenario Xenia xbox 360 emulator. Name a game let's bench I got a 6700 XT and Vega

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>>100126505
Emulation is 1000% your CPU.

>>100118701
Will I realistically notice a difference between 170hz and 240hz? This alone can save me 150€+.
>Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ1A vs MSI G274QPX

>>100126719
it's over

>>100126505
GPU doesn't matter that much, AMD CPUs have better AVX support these days which can be useful for some emulators

>>100126452
You dont need an aio that expensive/big (or at all) for the 7800x3d, it draws like 130w maximum. A thermalright phantom spirit would be fine and cost 1/3 as much
Horrifyingly overpriced motherboard, get like a b650 gaming plus wifi or something for under $200
That is a GARGANTUAN power supply, you would be more than fine with an 850watt
I would tell you to get a cheaper case because but I actually like how the torrent looks so
Oh yeah, and get ddr5 at like 5600-6000 instead of 7200. Cheaper for essentially no performance change (in gaming at least)

>>100126505
You joking? Steam Deck and Hacked PS4 are the go to emulation stations and it's all AMD.

>b450 aorus elite
>ryzen 3600
>1050ti
>corsair SV650 psu

I just want to play some video games and 5900x/5800x3d and 3070 would last me forever but is it worth upgrading with literal shit tier psu and mobo?

>>100126818
your board vrm is ok for an 8 core, pcie 3 will not hurt a 16x card.
the psu needs to be replaced because it's a low end model with 5 years of use.

>>100126818
5800x3d+4070super or 7800xt are perfect combo for that system

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>>100118701
This is my shortlist of monitors.
Criteria were:
>27"
>1440p
>144+Hz
>Available in EU
>Under 300 Euro
So far I'm torn between LG 850 and Iiyama -- seen them side by side, Iiyama has more natural colors out of the box and less retarded back panel design so I can keep using my lightbar. LG overall has more reviews, available color profiles and calibrations, colors are more vivid and bright and also strobing, whatever that is. Overall I know that LG makes good displays, but Iiyama is more focused on corporate side of things with digital signage and professional monitors; they most likely source their panels from LG anyway.
Dell also gets recommended all the time, and I know they have a good reputation overall for their displays.
So which one is it, /g/? I'm sick of my old monitor, it's way too big and heavy. I want to relegate it to the role of the TV finally.

>>100126719
nvidia chads I kneel...

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>>100126875
See if this monitor is available. It's the best 27" 1440p IPS right now

Otherwise go for LG or Dell.

>>100126875
Do you use Nvidia? the 27GP850-B has a g-sync module. Otherwise I'd go for the cheapest of any of those.

>>100126834
is it too bad vrm for 5900x? it's 12 but it would suit my needs better than 5800x3d. with new psu replacement total cost would be around 600e for cpu+gpu+psu. not even sure if that's worth it vs just getting a used 5700xt and buying new once psu fries everything
>>100126835
a used 3000 or 6000 series would be just fine

>>100126939
It will run a 5900x but obviously you need better case cooling to support it.
7800xt is not that expensive and it beats those last gen cards at a fraction of the power draw meaning you don't have to upgrade your PSU or used the money saved to upgrade your case or PSU.

>>100126939
The 5900x isn't needed for games. Since you only mentioned games the obvious choice between the two is the 5700x3d/5800x3d

>>100126756
>Cheaper for essentially no performance change (in gaming at least)
>(in gaming at least)
I mean, I know I said "high-end gaming," but I do plan to use it for more general-purpose stuff- internet, watching movies/music/etc., maybe getting a secondary SSD like that one anon was talking about and start backing up various stuff from around the internet before it goes completely to shit. Would all that still be doable with the changes you suggested, or would I be better served by building a second machine?

I don't care for the Torrent's appearance at all- I just went with it under the vague idea that "bigger = more room for air to circulate + larger margin of error for fitting everything inside + room for future expansion/improvement = better"

>>100126939
according to hardware unboxed testing the aorus vrm can handle 3950x
they tested aorus pro wifi but the vrm configuration is identical to pro

>>100126997
identical to elite*

What ammount of VRAM should I aim for in a GPU? I keep seeing people say 8 is on longer sufficent.

>>100118701
>>100126997
>>100127041

You might be annoyed with what I have to say, so prepare thine self and thine anus!

DisplayPort cables really are a crapshoot. There is no change in terms of pin layouts, and no standards in terms of shielding etc. So a cable may work, or it may not work. Or it may work in one setup, but then screw up when surrounded by a bunch of other cables causing interference.

Now there is VESA certification, and if you have a VESA certified cable it's pretty much guaranteed to work for whichever frequencies that VESA certified it for, be that 8 bit 8K 60Hz or 10bit 4K 60Hz or whatever else. So there is some benefit to spending a little more for a cable from a reputable source. But that doesn't mean a cheap DisplayPort cable, or a DisplayPort cable from 35 years ago, before DP 1.1a was ever dreamed of, won't do the job.

Another thing, the input you use MIGHT matter. For instance my monitor has DisplayPort 1.4 and DisplayPort 1.6. DisplayPort 1.6 is better and newer, but my monitor only supports 10bit colour via the DisplayPort port. So read up on your monitor and make sure it is set up correctly.

Now... your video card might do DisplayPort 2.1, that's the good part. But DisplayPort 2.1 is only rated for 8 bit colour on 4K 120Hz, not 144Hz. It *might* be able to overclock and eek out 144Hz, or 144Hz might have some drop-offs. No way to tell beyond testing it. 8 bit colour 4:4:4 is probably what you want. You can also do 10bit colour YCbCr, but most applications (games included) are not encoded in 10 bits.

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>>100118701
looking for some upgrade suggestions
i have a PC ive built back in 2014(with GPU upgrade in 2020), current specs are
>CPU i7 4790K
>GPU 2080ti
>RAM 16GB
im looking to upgrade to a newer AMD cpu which also means new mobo and ram, GPU is still good
I need a PC for programming, light media and 3D work and general gaming i genuinely havent followed the latest trends so i have no idea what to look for, the pc should be a mix of workstation/gaming machine

Does x570 motherboard still hold up?

>>100126991
All the things i mentioned will have zero effect on you using your storage how you want.
If you don't like the torrent look, look at something like the meshify 2 Xl, fractal north XL, lian li o11d evo or other large cases.

>>100127070
the fuck are you talking about
displayport 2 can do 2160p at 240hz without dsc
problem is nothing actually uses displayport 2

>>100126956
At that point might as well buy identical used pc with higher tier components than what I would end up with. Thanks guys but I'll buy new pc, don't see how upgrading cpu, psu, gpu and case (its also very bad) is worth it. Shouldn't have penny pinched when I was buying, now it is what it is

>>100126912
How is it any better than any from the list? Looking at the specs it's about the same, price also on par. And it's from noname brand.
What's the win for me?
>>100126921
AMD. They all are about the same price.

>>100127106
As far as I'm aware they don't have any particular tendency to spontaneously explode so they're holding up fine.

>>100126921
>27GP850-B has a g-sync module
No it does not

>>100127093
budget?

>>100127220
1000$

>>100127169
get the cheapest then, even by of your currency
LG or Dell is likely the best for warranty.
>>100127215
i mis-read the page you are absolutely correct anon. my bad

>>100127236
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dXpkrv

something along the lines of this. if you want more of a 3d/coding CPU rather than gaming then the 7900X is about $20 more

Is miniled with huge amount of local dimming zones equal to OLED in terms of picture quality?

>>100127332
nice ty, that actually seems like a really good upgrade, i removed parts i dont need and it would come to 670$ which is good price too
much appreciated
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4YB9c

>>100127373
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z4YB9c
enjoy anon!

>>100122502
for what? anons said it was better to save money than to buy the fastest NVMe SSD. which i agree, the money can be better spent in a few years on a new cpu or a gen 5 or 4+ TB SSD when they have come down in price

>>100127498
Sequential throughput isn't impressive but it has very high random access speed with low latency and high durability which makes it good for caches and swap space
More modern high end enterprise drives do get pretty close in performance though
It is a case where if you don't know if you need it then you really aren't going to get a benefit from it

>>100127498
>>100127540
Also you cannot fit modern games like Cod 3 on the reasonably priced Optane drives you can buy on ebay, they are usually 60-120GB.

What are the quietest non-rgb 140mm fans i can buy?

>>100126452
Swap the Taichi motherboard for the Steel Legend Wifi, same manufacturer and still a great board
Get some RAM that is 6000MT/s CL30 since it's the sweet spot for AM5, g.skill flare x5 is good and cheap unless you want disco lights then get Team Vulcan with the same timings
Samsung NVMe isn't bad, also consider WD S850X and SK Hynix P41 Platinum
I also agree with the other anon in regard to the CPU cooler, AIO isn't necessary for the 7800X3D
Case is fine, PSU is overboard, get a 1kw unit for some flexibility
You can save money on the GPU by getting the Founder's Edition from Nvidia's store on their website

>>100127572
You can buy RGB fans and don't connect RGB header.

is a 7800x3d still decent for other applications or is it only good for gaming?

>>100127392
just one more question, are there any upcoming CPUs or new architectures? so that i dont end up buying this just before the release of something newer, which also means buying before a price slash

>>100127804
Which applications?

>>100127804
Still really good for non-gaming

>>100127909
not for at least 6 months

>>100127909
5000 series gpu rumored to drop q3 or q4 this year. Which in reality means the overpriced 5090 comes out first, then the 5080 later, then the 5070, etc etc

>>100127909
Zen 5 is expected later this year. New X3D chips probably next year. You can expect good upgradability without your current CPU being made redundant overnight.

>>100118701
Lads I want to get a 7900 GRE, visited my local shop earlier and they had one in stock. Only issue is that they've only bought 2 units and one of them sold. This model hasn't been sold much at all in my country and very few shops carry any stock at all it seems like. I pussied out of buying. I inspected the box and it didn't have any dents or anything. Should I bite the bullet and buy? I was deadset on buying it but now I have my reservations. I picked up a 7800x3d a new mobo, ram and psu. Just need my gpu for the build

>>100127924
>>100127959
good to know, i can wait for something newer to either get that or get the 7800x3d at a hopefully lower price
>>100127926
not even gonna bother with newer gpus for at least couple of years, that shit is so overpriced right now its not worth it

>>100127959
Will zen5 make amd sockets move to AM6?

>>100127980
Nope same socket.

>>100127967
buy it or its gone forever. the GRE is a limited release.

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What is your opinion about low profile CPU fans?

>>100128065
Imo anyone who builds smaller than matx is probably gay, a pedophile, or both.

advice for buying external hdd?
I haven't bought hard drives in a long time but the old one is starting to shit the bed
I'm seeing 10tb for 200 eurobucks, I thought these shits would be cheaper by now desu
is a seagate 3.5 inch ok? how do you even tell if it will shit the bed in 2 years or not?

>>100128137
you assume it will shit the bed in 2 years and plan accordingly

Build a new PC minus the GPU untill next gen.
Is this a terrible idea? Will things just get worse?

>>100128222
god damnit, that's fair enough

>>100128247
If the gpu is going to be the primary uplift in performance for you its pretty pointless

bros why does the livemixer board have to look so shit

>>100128397
>Stick it in a case without a window
Problem solved

>>100128430
that would require replacing my case or the panel both are an expense I don't want

>>100128454
buy a can of black spray paint for $2
the cool look is the main selling point of the livemixer board.

>>100128479
>cool look
the feature set is incredible for the price and all ASRock needed to do was make it not look like vomit. But you're right, spray paint is cheap

>>100128397
>livemixer
just get an orange pc case anon.

>>100128528
anon i have taste

>>100123355
You've probably seen the Hi-Fi thread (when it's not ded).
If you're not a renter, I'd budget not only for speakers, but also for room acoustic treatment, the research of which will probably consume a lot of your time (foam eggcrate/wedge tiles don't do anything)

>>100128065
that if you can get and fit the AXP-90 X47 Full Copper, then go for it. It doesn't matter if taller coolers outperform it.
It's the new NH-L9: "it just werks"

For my next build I was looking at direct die cooling with an AIO and one of those derbauer graphene pads is it as simple as mounting the cooler on a delidded CPU? Specifically AM5. I do see EKWB has a direct die AIO so that's what is throwing me off.

>>100128490
check other asrock boards, not sure what the hype is about

>>100128807
the livemixer is a better version of the more expensive Pro RS. really weird that the shit looking board is better

>>100128807
The hype is because of the feature set and the price, that's what

>>100128862
>>100128957
that's just dumb, you didn't specify why it's better

>>100129103
why do i need to say why it's better? fucking google it you mongrel

>>100128957
it's also got a cooler design

>>100129130
it's mostly just marketing, the B650 PG Lightning is fine, you don't need all those usb 2.0 ports

>>100129153
>B650 PG Lightning
is also more expensive, lacks DP on CPU video out, one less M.2 slot (though has 2x more SATA so YMMV) AND no thunderbolt header

>>100129225
there's the matx boards if you care about minute price differences, they're cheaper and hardly compromise your build, fuck off with your large ass sheet metal cases, and the igpu is anemic, you should have a dgpu for productive multi-monitor use

How well does the 7900 XT undervolt?

>>100129248
>there's the matx boards if you care about minute price differences
the point is why should I spend more, for less?
>they're cheaper and hardly compromise your build, fuck off with your large ass sheet metal cases
less USB ports, less PCIe slots, less m.2 slots, often worse VRMs (shout out the ASRock HDV/M.2 proving me wrong here)
>the igpu is anemic, you should have a dgpu for productive multi-monitor use
the iGPU is fine to display stuff and I would want to option to do 2x monitors from my iGPU as well as 4x from my dGPU
>>100129279
not that well IMO, AMD's driver software is gimped for any serious power savings

>>100127804
It's as fast as a 10900k everywhere else
It's plenty fast imo

>>100129327
yeah ok buddy
by the time you have half a dozen monitors and half a dozen 2+ TB M.2 SSDs you'll be on AM6

>>100129349
I already have 4 monitors and am looking for my 5th and 6th. also 3 M.2 drives (as standard on ATX) isn't that many

>>100129403
ok so you have all that and now you're worried about saving a few bucks but you don't like the orange color. cost per GB is best at 2+ TB per drive, should be plenty for most gaymers. first world problems

>>100129416
>first world problems
absolutely, i'm still complaining that the motherboard is a shit colour even though it's the best for the price/feature set

>>100129446
it's some kind of jewish autism, you can work around most limitations, like getting adapter cards for additional M.2 drives, there are other things in life that are worth caring about, like aesthetics as you've come to realize, or for example you could do a smaller build with audiophile grade acoustics, zero active cooling, zero coil whine etc, people pay millions of dollars for good audio, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder

>>100128397
Livemixer is the easily the best looking board this generation. You have objectively shit taste if you disagree.
FACT!

>>100129487
I've got an good enough audio set-up for my PC, it's more the internals of my PC that i'm autistic about because if it doesn't meet my requirements i'm going to screech from the rooftops. ITX would also be nice but again screeching.
>>100129511
you're either a boomer or you're a splatoon loli fan

>>100128397
you getting the purple one or the orange one?

What's the current recommended non NVMe SSD?
My motherboard doesn't have a slot for a second NVMe and I'm looking to get another drive that's 500gb-1tb

livemixer has cutouts for wi-fi antennas but doesn't come with a wi-fi module
B650M PG Lightning is only $110 vs $150 for the livemixer and has HDMI+displayport
if you're a baller you're going to upgrade to an AM6 motherboard within a few years so don't overthink the expandability, the $40 saved is significant

>>100129630
orange

nvm B650M PG Lightning has cucked VRMs but there's ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 for $120 which only has 2 ram slots but that's preferred for ram overclocking

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What should I change CPU and motherboard for?

I use my pc for usual home office tasks

>>100118741
its literally the same person

>>100129758
>home office tasks
ryzen 5600 with a cheap A520 board

>>100129767
you mean 5600g right?

>>100129767
u sure?

>>100129758
i3 12100 or r5 5600g are the floor for this sort of thing

>>100129775
>>100129793
the pc shown had a gpu, no?
Why would you want iGPU?
NTA but 5600 is cheaper here than 5600g

>>100129793
look at his current specs, it's almost as good as a modern poorfag build

>>100129758
are you sure you need to upgrade at all? it would be costly to go to AM5/ddr5

>>100129811
>>100129802
you're right yeah grab a 5600 or a 12100/13100/14100 if you want an igpu as backup

help me lads i'm losing my fucking mind
upgraded my pc recently, slowly over the course of a few weeks. the last thing i did was put in a new psu, but before the psu everything was fine with all of my parts
but now my fucking pc is beeping sometimes. it's sporadic, it'll beep no more than once per minute, it'll go a while without beeping, then start back up again
only thing i could find was that it related to fast boot, so i turned it off. got no beeping for a couple days after that, but it's fucking back
i shut my pc off, still beeping. flipped the switch on the psu, still fucking beeping. only after unplugging my pc did the beeping fully stop for the night
no idea what to fucking do
mobo is asus rog b650e-f, yes ive checked the manual and internet

>>100122482
asrock boards are better than both of these.

>>100129851
>flipped switch on psu
>still beeping
???
I have no clue but my gut is telling me it might be some warning your bios battery is low or whatever, since I'm not sure why the fuck else it would beep

>>100121350
i got that same bundle on the right. protip, you can return a single item from the bundle. my mobo was defective so i returned it, but i could've returned even if it was working fine. the items get split into individual costs after you buy the bundle for the purpose of returns

>>100126088
you should discover the 7500f Aliexpress deal instead of that crap or these >>100126183

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day 286 of waiting for battlemage

>>100126452
The X670E Taichi is excellent, Don't listen to these poorfags trying to deprive you of 4 NVME slots, Dual USB 4, and Dual PCIE 5 slots. This board has some of the most advanced IO of this generation. Just make sure you get a deal as it's 18 months old. It's $360 with the Newegg/zip deal. Well worth the premium. I have had it since release with a 7950X and a buddy just got one for his 7800X3D, still an excellent, extremely high-quality motherboard.

>>100130040
what do you do with your fourth nvme slot & your dual pcie5 slot?

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>>100130162
All NVME slots are occupied. As for the second PCIe slot, there are trade-offs so I won't fully utilize it until I get a PCIE 5 GPU or two. Putting anything that close to the 4090 FE is also not great for temps. But I have done it temporarily when needed and it's been helpful.

>>100130226
>8tb free
>has two 2tb drives
Couldn't you literally remove three of these drives and still be fine?

>But I have done it temporarily when needed and it's been helpful.
needed/helpful for what?

WHERE THE FUCKING NIGGER IS ZEN 5

>>100130339
It'll be teased in 6 weeks and announced in 3 months to be released in 6 months

>>100124528
Ryzen 7600 + 32Gb + 3070 I'm good for 10 years

>>100124568
He fell for the Intel meme

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Day 382 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>>100127572
Probably the be Quiet Silent Wings 4 (140mm), you don't need to buy the high RPM Pro version if you're focused on reducing operating noise.

>>100130370
lol
lmao

Sapphire's China-only Nitro+ B650I board looks very nice.
https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-launches-b650i-nitro-mini-itx-motherboard-for-amd-am5-processors

>>100130521
Since Blackwell is confirmed to reuse a 5/4-nm-class node, did that wipe out next-gen expectations?

>>100130756
Yeah
It'll be Turing 2.0

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>>100130756
The generational performance gain from the RTX 3090 to the 4090 wasn't sustainable considering it was a node jump from a fake 10nm (Samsung 8N) to a refined 5nm process (TSMC 4N), that's almost two full node improvements.
The RTX 5090 might bring more than 30% gen-over-gen gains if it is indeed using an advanced packaging of two GB203 chips.
A steady 10~20% performance gain for the smaller gaming chips will continue to be the new norm.

>>100130756
It is?

>>100130839
So what you're really saying is that the 5090 outta have a 2200 MSRP, right?

>>100130846
The data center GB200's already confirmed to use a performance-enhanced TSMC 4NP process.
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-blackwell-platform-arrives-to-power-a-new-era-of-computing
Speculated GeForce chip SKUs are linked below.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-board-partners-expect-geforce-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-to-launch-in-fourth-quarter

>>100130846
3nm is too broken to be used for 300+mm2 GPU chips as seen in recently released B100 using 4nm

>>100130886
>>100130889
lame

>>100130884
They'll continue to push the pricing limits, as long as there are margins left over for board partners to sustainably absorb discounts when demand tapers off towards the end of its production cycle.
Right now we're seeing RTX 4090s sitting on shelves/warehouses.

>>100130588
this is my build after 10 years on a FX 6300 and a HD 7950, fuck off consoomer, good luck slowing a 9800X3D down or a future 5070

>>100130884
And better still, it'll have at best half the stock of 4090 since it'll be using 800mm2 of silicon and have zero yields

>>100130948
Another thing I miss from pre-RTX days is that they had a perfectly fine system where they'd throw Titan cards at retards with more money than common sense and let the rest of us pay reasonable prices.

Does nvidia not do game promos with their cards anymore?

>>100130990
The promotions usually align with a new SKU availability, I think they gave out Diablo 4 during the RTX 4070's launch period.
The 40 series Super cards probably didn't get a game bundle because they were price/performance improvements to existing SKUs.

>>100130959
lol
lmao

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>>100130959
Your build is fine if it meets your needs, you're part of the 25% of GeForce card owners who have an RTX 3060 or a better product.
That slide content is from this February's NVIDIA investor deck.
https://investor.nvidia.com/events-and-presentations/presentations/default.aspx

>>100131045
Alright thanks. I could've sworn that they did new promos every few months no matter what, sometimes even two or three games, but maybe they've changed since I last paid attention to GPUs.

i want to generate AI and play games. should I get an nvidia or AMD card.
Whatever I get will probably be overkill because I don't really play graphically heavy games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/18bzslt/payed_for_overclocking_service_and_getting/
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1ao1ln7/are_pc_optimization_services_a_scam/
I can't believe these people are real

How is the Ryzen 8600g compared to the 5600g, especially with regards to light gaming? It's a lot more expensive than the 5600g, in addition motherboards being three times as expensive as a cheap b450. I just feel like it's not worth the cost if I only want a simple pc with the odd gaming here and there.

>>100131156
Pretty much every major company's been in cost-cutting mode and it wouldn't surprise me if NVIDIA's GeForce division decided to reduce their marketing expenditures by lowering the frequency of these game bundles.
Most of the new games a pretty mediocre and the good ones probably cost too much to justify bundling.

Forbidden West could've been a great game package for Radeon considering it's a good-looking, non-RT title, but the game's probably too expensive to bundle or Sony doesn't need the help of Radeon to sell their PC ports.

>>100131232
Of course it's not worth it.

>>100131220
jesus I can't believe they'd pay some smuck $350 for what they could learn from a YouTube video. at that point they could just buy a new part or better cooler and save money and likely see a better increase.

>>100131232
8600g is a solid 50% faster than a 5600g in gaming so it's not unjustified. on the other hand you'll probably be better off spending your money on like a 5600+1650

>>100131232
It's very fast for integrated graphics but slower than 1060 6gb ($50 used card)
it's a niche product for ultra small computers and people who overclock ram as a hobby

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>>100131220
>PAID FOR OVERCLOCKING SERVICE

>>100131220
>payed
Yikes

>>100131232
Buy a used card on eBay.
They offer buyer protection, you just have to bid/buy a working one from a reputable seller with legitimate photos of the actual card being sold.

>>100131220
they get btfo so hard they delete their reddit accounts.

>>100131199
Nvidia cards are widely regarded as superior for productivity and AI work. I have seem some people claim AMD cards do just fine but may require more knowhow and maybe different software to operate. I am no expert in this topic and you may well get better advice from one of the dedicated AI generals or elsewhere, but Nvidia seems to be a safe bet.

>>100131232
I would look to see if you could buy a gpu for the money the upgrade to a 8600 g would cost. anything past a 1060 6g as others have said would be a more effective upgrade for gaming. it's and old card but still runs the majority of games fine on lower settings. even better if you could get a 1600 series.

>>100131199
both can do it no problem now. asrock amd gpus come with ai shit in the driver cd now. nvidia is self explanatory. nvidia will do it slightly faster but the end quality is the same.
https://www.asrock.com/microsite/aiquickset/index.asp

>>100131265
Yeah, I looked at the specs and some reviews and it looked to be a pretty significant improvement, until I looked at the price and saw that it was twice as expensive. It's a bit too expensive for what you get in my opinion.

>>100131270
I'm fairly certain 5600G has been pretty popular, especially considering how expensive graphics cards have been lately. Most people don't buy used, it's just not worth the hassle, time, and risk. But yeah, 5600g has a pretty decent price for what you get, while 8600g just is too expensive really. I also feel like I'd be better off just buying a cheaper dedicated CPU and a dedicated graphics card a that point.

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daily reminder

>>100131444
reminder of what?

>>100131444
when will apple release cpus

>>100131444
your OLED or HDR TV uses more energy than your apple shit so at savings or benefits are negated

>>100131467
literally irrelevant point

>>100131457
ARM is more efficient than X86.

>>100131473
then why brag about energy efficiency if you lost your efficiency to your damn tv or monitor

>>100131435
Get a Ryzen 5500 CPU paired with an RX 6600 video card.
You'll pay about $70~80 more compared to the 8600G APU, but you're getting a much better GPU.
The cost of building a DDR4 AM4 is also cheaper than a DDR5 AM5 system.
It's the cost of one crappy new game you have to give up.
I'd recommend you go a bit further and buy a 5600/X but your budget is your budget.

>>100131509
>5500 over 5600
this is a poorfag trap

>>100131515
Normally I'd agree, but he's already considering a 5600G anyway.
We suggested a Ryzen 5500 CPU for people with a strict $600-700 budget before, they haven't come back to complain about it.

>>100131481
you're not losing anything. you need a monitor and they are a separate issue entirely. also they only use like 20w anyway so i don't know what you're even talking about. they're already quite low-power unless you're doing something like a 42" OLED on a white background at full brightness

>>100131477
that's an ignorant generalisation

at the current year should I prioritize pcie 4 for future videocards or save like 20 or 25 bucks or so and get a pcie 3 motherboard instead?

>>100131515
5500 isn't a bad idea. You save money that you can then spend on a better GPU. You don't need the integrated graphics any more, so long as you can secure a decent used GPU. same # of cores slightly slower but no that much.

>>100131564
The worst part about the 5500/5600G is it locks the PCIe x16 lanes to Gen 3 x8.
This is an immaterial issue for budget builders because RX 600 or RTX 60-tier entry gaming cards only have x8 lanes and they don't need Gen 4 x8 transfer rates.

>>100130959
Have you done the math on buying last-gen every 5 years instead? I could image you have around the same average "bleeding-edgeness" while being a bit cheaper

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finally was able to build a new pc

I'm pretty happy with it ngl

>>100131564
The only way I'd consider a 5500 is if money is tight now and you're planning to upgrade to a 5700x3d in the future.
Actually screw it, get the 5700x3d now and just save money for a proper GPU in the future.

>>100131699
>buying last-gen
Probably the best strategy for stability & cost-conscious builders.
Motherboard BIOS can be left undercooked during the early launch periods.

>>100126452
you don't need 1300W, but the PSU market is a minefield, even corsair RM (non x) has been gimped
this is a good one if you're in burgerland
https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-Platinum-SSR-850PX-Modular-Warranty/dp/B074N9FNV2/

>>100131718
You should celebrate it by uninstalling Speccy and using HWinfo64, Speccy can't even show the proper VRAM capacity of your card.

>>100131718
>16gb ram
anon-kun...

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>>100131718
>>100131818
my god I'm out of the loop.

Thanks!

>>100131872
I'm getting that extra 16gb as soon as I get my next paycheck

>>100131872
seems ok for a budget build
inb4 us 32gb fags get btfo when AI takes off and we'll all need 64+ gb

>>100131872
16gb is fine for gaming

>>100131872
16gb is fine you just need to close chrome when doing gaming and discord.

>>100131594
I have a 5500. the gpu link is x16, just checked lspci.
But I would recommend getting the 5600 if possible.

>>100131950
>>100131956
>>100131917
going from 16gb to 32gb was a huge improvement for me because shit would get wonky even when you're not using all 16gb. Devs just stopped caring about performance so they just put out games with dogshit optimization
I'm running 5600 6600xt with 32gb & I'm glad I opted for that
>>100131914
did you get 1x16 or 2x8? Cause you're either fucked now or fucked later, no?

>>100132002
My mistake, it's the CPU's lack of PCIe 4.0 support which won't affect entry-level/budget cards with x8 PCIe lanes.

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>>100131917
>>100131950
>>100131956
>16gb is fine
And here I am not even using chrome nor gaming

>>100132010
Then you probably had a faulty stick. Stop using "optimization" as a magic word, the only actual programming issue that could face constraints based on memory size is a leak, which you didn't experience if the game wasn't maxing out your memory. Tighten your sub-timings and run some tests.

>>100132039
>Stop using "optimization" as a magic word
spending time on the performance is optimization in my book, whether it's through reducing the strain of the shit being loaded/stored or by reducing the leaks.
Tarkov is a prime example of a game that stopped struggling the moment I got 32gb, even though I wasn't hitting 16gb usage
>faulty stick
perhaps, but it seemed odd it never happened unless I was above 14gb usage

>>100132038
And? I said it was fine for gaming, not for whatever you're throwing 42gb at.

>>100132070
it's only fine if you're playing console slop
pc games will make your shit kneel real quick.

>>100132038
IF YOU ARE USING FUCKING WINDOWS I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOU BITCH ABOUT RAM
THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING PEOPLE SHOULDNT WEAR COTTON SHIRTS BECAUSE WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN A FIRE THEY BURN
YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED

32 vs 64 gb ram for modded skyrim? (thinking of nolvus)

>>100132065
>spending time on the performance is optimization in my book
Yes but what I mean is that, if your RAM wasn't reaching capacity then the actual kind of optimization issue that could have addressed total memory usage it wasn't at fault. Like maybe one of your modules was messed up. But even putting that aside, sure maybe Tarkov is an exception (I don't play that game so IDK) and it's a particularly RAM-hungry game, but the point is that overall 16gb is fine if you just want a budget gaming build in 99% of cases.
>>100132101
Examples? The Finals runs fine on 16gb, and it's a UE5 PC game. It does like faster RAM, though.

>>100132121
BeamNG

any games come out the last six months good for pirating and benchmarking a new build? something cutting edge that pushes both the cpu and gpu
or is it just time to reinstall cyberbenchmark 2077

>>100132101
What games uses more than 12~ gb of RAM at most? Though it games are recommending 16 gb as a minimum these days.

>>100132038
The Windows OS will always allocate excess system memory than it needs when there's room to do so.

>>100132010
1x16, we're good

I might go higher if something comes up

>>100132141
Alan Woke 2 will make your GPU cry.

>>100132135
>9 year old game
>early access
jesus christ how horrifying

>>100132141
SYNDUALITY Echo of Ada

>>100132121
>but the point is that overall 16gb is fine if you just want a budget gaming build in 99% of cases.
I feel like the money you spend going 32gb is much better spent there than getting more drive space or a better cpu/gpu because it's just easy of use
like I'm just running a portal 2 mod atm & I'm at 13gb/32gb
If you want to record some gameplay, stream a bit to friends, have videos/music, etc. that'll all be an extra hit

In tarkov it was so bad I had to run some script to clear my standby ram after every single match or the next one would run horrendously

>>100132142
>What games uses more than 12~ gb of RAM at most? Though it games are recommending 16 gb as a minimum these days.
Virtually none

>>100132287
>In tarkov it was so bad I had to run some script to clear my standby ram after every single match or the next one would run horrendously
That's... not how RAM works.

>>100127959
Why doesn't OP add this info to the OP?

>>100126875
Just get the dell bro

>>100131718
Stop using Speccy, it hasn't been updated in ages.

>>100132340
>>100132340
>>100132340

>>100132325
Why dell?

>>100128247
No it's fine

>>100126452
Torrent is a shit case for AIO cooling imo

>>100120744
Just get the peerless assassin bro

>>100132287
>>100132065
>>100132010
Windows SuperFetch / SysMain prepares to launch your most commonly accessed programs by storing related files & libraries in the system memory before you access them.
This feature is on by default, it's coded to let go of these programs if your current workload (games) needs more system memory.

>>100132311
Because /pcbg/ OPs prioritize shilling graphics cards above everything else.

>>100132297
>>100132385
Worked for me, I don't know why it worked and I realize it should work automatically, but I had extremely frequent hickups, likely when it was trying to allocate more or whatever

>>100132619
Yes, Microsoft deliberately set up a custom SuperFetch / SysMain code just for you.
Because you're the main character.

>>100126452
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2NqnBL
changes
>RAM
6000 CL30 is no brainer choice for AM5
>Case
Meshify 2 or Montech Air 903 Max (NOT BASE) are both good options for top mounted 360mm AIOs and no nonsense design. Similar Lian Li cases have retarded design choices.
>PSU
Seasonic are good and very consistent, 1000W is more than enough for quiet operation and wiggle room for upgrades if shit needs more power in a few years.

>>100130040
>The X670E Taichi is excellent
>still an excellent, extremely high-quality motherboard.
Agreed
>great BIOS
>arguably the most robust VRM design of any X670E board
>fully Intel NICs - Ethernet+Wi-Fi+BT, none of that Mediatek trash
>great I/O as mentioned
only downside is lackluster aesthetics in my opinion, but then again I'm not a queer so I don't stare into my PC case. ASRock's track record for equipping their boards with good NICs is incredible, I wish MSI didn't fucking ruin their shit.

>>100132287
it's a fringe issue, on a tight budget you can cope and skip playing the most demanding AAA games, skip larping as a twitch streamer etc

>>100132786
>$160 case
oh dear

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/cinebench-crashed-my-pc-my-wi-fi-stopped-working-and-i-keep-getting-a-please-wait-screen-when-i-boot-up-my-pc.321683/

farking kek

>>100132287
>>100132297
Tarkov has been notorious for mem leaks and just being super ram hungry. Anon is describing a ram cleaner which the devs eventually built into the game because practically everyone used a 3rd party one( or the game had unbelievably bad stutters).

>>100126452
don't listen to the people shilling 6000mhz DDR5, it will lack future proofing (zen 5 cpus are just around the corner), you need unlocked PMIC so it can go to 8000+ mhz

Do you think when the 9800x3d and 5090 come out a 1000w psu will still be enough for them?

>>100133728
The RTX 5090 might be a 600W power hog for real this time.
I wouldn't be surprised if it shipped with a stock 500~550W TDP configuration.

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