I tried keto several times, felt great mentally but my physique look flat and dyel, plus the adaptation period sucks and you have to wait months for strenght to come back. Maybe in some years i do it as a lifestyle when i reach my max natty potential, but for know imma eat some rice
>>74132874yes, carbohydrates (and fibre) are essential for any person serious about maintaining a healthy body and mind.
>>74132874necessary for what?
carbs and fat are not necessaryyou can live well if you eat only proteinyou will die if you stop eating protein
>>74132903https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
>>74132903Fat is absolutely necessary, not that you can fully isolate protein from fat.
>>74132916>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning>The U.S. and Canadian Dietary Reference Intake review for protein mentions "rabbit starvation", but concluded that there was not sufficient evidence by 2005 to establish a tolerable upper intake level, i.e., an upper limit for how much protein can be safely consumed.[9]literally Bible stories is all you have to support the theory of rabbit starvation.
>>74132874Sounds like your genetics are trash.
>>74132874They're not necessary, but it's stupid to avoid carbs in most cases.>I tried keto several timesSo you consumed 80% of your calories as fat? If not then you never tried it. If you're trying to push your limit in athletic performance, then carbs matter. You would know this if you tried. Plus, if you don't eat enough carbs then more of your protein will be wasted and converted to glucose.
>>74132874you're probably just bloated from all the fiber you consume
Love him but I always thought the dude on the left looked like Joe from GameSack
>>74132926That's not even the same thing you colossal retard. Cutting out fats and carbs and only eating protein can kill you. What you quoted was talking about the upper limits of protein intake. Commit harakiri at your earliest convenience
>>74132874Sounds like a you problem. I switch between fat and glucose primary metabolism no problem and in less than a 2 days. My only issue with keto is getting sloppy drunk unexpectedly.
>>74133378provide evidence to support your claim.
>>74133401How's the ultimate hairloss diet going for you? Do your kidneys hurt yet?
>>74132893I don't eat carbs nor fiber because it causes inflammation and I feel just fine.
>>74133639I have a full head of hair and my kidneys are fine.What's your basis for saying that not eating carbohydrates magically makes you lose hair and hurts your kidneys?
>>74132874I couldn't live without carbs. Most of my favorite foods are in the form of lots of carbs (pasta, spaghetti, rice, noodles, etc). I eat more carbs then protein most days. I am a skinnyfat faggot so take this with a grain of salt.
You get all the carbs you need from fruit and berries (as you would in nature).
>>74133643you're fat and inactiveyou don't need carbs
>>74132874This meme has been grossly misused in this case. You have been reported to the meme police.Make your time.
>>74133705I'm fit and train MMA.And I don't need carbs.
>>74133696>carbs addict>skinnyfatMakes sense.
>>74133701Modern fruits have nothing in common with fruits that used to grow naturally.Nowadays they're just candies.
>>74133653It's common knowledge. Even women go bald from keto. Norwood is coming for you.
>>74132874A low carb diet is not necessarily ketogenic. If dietary protein intake is high enough, your liver will combine a glucogenic amino acid with a triglyceride to make new glucose in a process called gluconeogenesis. Keto dieting requires you to restrict carbs and protein with a high intake of fat in order to combine ketogenic amino acids with triglycerides to make ketone bodies. Elevated ketones in the urine is considered "ketosis". The USDA food pyramid recommends avoiding fats such as oil and butter such as are required on a ketogenic diet. Lean meats and veggies are not ketogogenic, they are glucogenic, abd cause weight loss. Carbohydrates can be "necessary" in the sense that they are a form of Calories necessary to prevent weight loss, same as fat.
>>74132874Keto isn't the goal, it's a stage trough which you can achieve your goal of>Losing fatI did keto, worked like a charm in>Losing fatOnce you've>Lost the fatyou need to start a "new normal" in order to maintain your achieved goal. I continue with a low carb diet and eat carbs maybe once a week.
>>74133819Never saw anything indicating that.Been at it for years, and I'm just fine.
>>74133875It may be because I'm in autoimmune disease circles but plenty of people I know do keto/nocarbs/carnivore for the anti-inflammatory properties rather than lose fat.So once we find a diet that doesn't harm us (usually we cut off most cereals, oils, and fiber), we stick to it forever.
>>74132903You'll get kidney failure if you only eat protein.But hey, pain is the best teacher, retards like you don't listen to anybody up until the moment they're curled up on a bathroom floor lmao.
>>74132903Retard you can't live off pure protein you will starve. You need fat or carbs for energy. Preferably high quality animal fat.
>>74133888>I'm a special snowflake with a medical condition so general lures don't apply to my special body>I also mase by identity around my medical conditionWhy are people like this?
>>74132874Carbs arent essential to liveBut carbs are king to living Once you can understand this, you'll make gains
>>74134222>You'll get kidney failure if you only eat protein
>>74133701Might as well eat ice cream
>>74134979Addict.
>>74132874keto is for queers and faggots
>>74133875>Once you've>Lost the fatyou need to start a "new normal" in order to maintain your achieved goal. I continue with a low carb diet and eat carbs maybe once a week.What fucking retarded advice from a fat shit who has never looked good. Keto doesn't work because once people go off it they just add the fat back on
>>74135116>anno domini 2011+13>does not believe in cicoyou are a special type of retard, aren't ya?