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I tried keto several times, felt great mentally but my physique look flat and dyel, plus the adaptation period sucks and you have to wait months for strenght to come back.

Maybe in some years i do it as a lifestyle when i reach my max natty potential, but for know imma eat some rice
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>>74132874
yes, carbohydrates (and fibre) are essential for any person serious about maintaining a healthy body and mind.
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>>74132874
necessary for what?
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carbs and fat are not necessary
you can live well if you eat only protein
you will die if you stop eating protein
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>>74132903
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
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>>74132903
Fat is absolutely necessary, not that you can fully isolate protein from fat.
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>>74132916
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning
>The U.S. and Canadian Dietary Reference Intake review for protein mentions "rabbit starvation", but concluded that there was not sufficient evidence by 2005 to establish a tolerable upper intake level, i.e., an upper limit for how much protein can be safely consumed.[9]

literally Bible stories is all you have to support the theory of rabbit starvation.
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>>74132874
Sounds like your genetics are trash.
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>>74132874
They're not necessary, but it's stupid to avoid carbs in most cases.
>I tried keto several times
So you consumed 80% of your calories as fat? If not then you never tried it.
If you're trying to push your limit in athletic performance, then carbs matter. You would know this if you tried. Plus, if you don't eat enough carbs then more of your protein will be wasted and converted to glucose.
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>>74132874
you're probably just bloated from all the fiber you consume
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Love him but I always thought the dude on the left looked like Joe from GameSack
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>>74132926
That's not even the same thing you colossal retard. Cutting out fats and carbs and only eating protein can kill you. What you quoted was talking about the upper limits of protein intake. Commit harakiri at your earliest convenience
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>>74132874
Sounds like a you problem. I switch between fat and glucose primary metabolism no problem and in less than a 2 days. My only issue with keto is getting sloppy drunk unexpectedly.
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>>74133378
provide evidence to support your claim.
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>>74133401
How's the ultimate hairloss diet going for you? Do your kidneys hurt yet?
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>>74132893
I don't eat carbs nor fiber because it causes inflammation and I feel just fine.
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>>74133639
I have a full head of hair and my kidneys are fine.
What's your basis for saying that not eating carbohydrates magically makes you lose hair and hurts your kidneys?
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>>74132874
I couldn't live without carbs. Most of my favorite foods are in the form of lots of carbs (pasta, spaghetti, rice, noodles, etc). I eat more carbs then protein most days. I am a skinnyfat faggot so take this with a grain of salt.
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You get all the carbs you need from fruit and berries (as you would in nature).
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>>74133643
you're fat and inactive
you don't need carbs
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>>74132874
This meme has been grossly misused in this case.
You have been reported to the meme police.
Make your time.
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>>74133705
I'm fit and train MMA.
And I don't need carbs.
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>>74133696
>carbs addict
>skinnyfat
Makes sense.
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>>74133701
Modern fruits have nothing in common with fruits that used to grow naturally.
Nowadays they're just candies.
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>>74133653
It's common knowledge. Even women go bald from keto. Norwood is coming for you.
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>>74132874
A low carb diet is not necessarily ketogenic. If dietary protein intake is high enough, your liver will combine a glucogenic amino acid with a triglyceride to make new glucose in a process called gluconeogenesis. Keto dieting requires you to restrict carbs and protein with a high intake of fat in order to combine ketogenic amino acids with triglycerides to make ketone bodies. Elevated ketones in the urine is considered "ketosis". The USDA food pyramid recommends avoiding fats such as oil and butter such as are required on a ketogenic diet. Lean meats and veggies are not ketogogenic, they are glucogenic, abd cause weight loss. Carbohydrates can be "necessary" in the sense that they are a form of Calories necessary to prevent weight loss, same as fat.
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>>74132874
Keto isn't the goal, it's a stage trough which you can achieve your goal of
>Losing fat

I did keto, worked like a charm in
>Losing fat

Once you've
>Lost the fat
you need to start a "new normal" in order to maintain your achieved goal. I continue with a low carb diet and eat carbs maybe once a week.
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>>74133819
Never saw anything indicating that.
Been at it for years, and I'm just fine.
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>>74133875
It may be because I'm in autoimmune disease circles but plenty of people I know do keto/nocarbs/carnivore for the anti-inflammatory properties rather than lose fat.
So once we find a diet that doesn't harm us (usually we cut off most cereals, oils, and fiber), we stick to it forever.
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>>74132903
You'll get kidney failure if you only eat protein.
But hey, pain is the best teacher, retards like you don't listen to anybody up until the moment they're curled up on a bathroom floor lmao.
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>>74132903
Retard you can't live off pure protein you will starve. You need fat or carbs for energy. Preferably high quality animal fat.
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>>74133888
>I'm a special snowflake with a medical condition so general lures don't apply to my special body
>I also mase by identity around my medical condition

Why are people like this?
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>>74132874
Carbs arent essential to live
But carbs are king to living
Once you can understand this, you'll make gains
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>>74134222
>You'll get kidney failure if you only eat protein
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>>74133701
Might as well eat ice cream
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>>74134979
Addict.
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>>74132874
keto is for queers and faggots
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>>74133875
>Once you've
>Lost the fat
you need to start a "new normal" in order to maintain your achieved goal. I continue with a low carb diet and eat carbs maybe once a week.
What fucking retarded advice from a fat shit who has never looked good. Keto doesn't work because once people go off it they just add the fat back on
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>>74135116
>anno domini 2011+13
>does not believe in cico
you are a special type of retard, aren't ya?



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