>>143301990
Molly didn't show her feet.

Boring 2nd season. Think it says something how the only character that was deprived of a relationship (Libby) is the favorite among this board.

>>143301990
bad scheduling in the 1st season, a pointlessly extended hiatus, then finally a shitty 2nd season

>>143301990
They let a woman direct.
Honestly I blame the two creators for that. You're supposed to oversee your product. Sam King pushes garbage? You say "No, rewrite that lol".
But these are people that think that google searches are the "dark web", so eh.
Put competent people in charge of your shitshows, disney.

>>143301990
because molly was too gassy.

>>143302076

You thought S1's schedule was worse then S2's? It doesnt even compare. S2 literally opened up with 10 Ep's airing on the App and then the season going on "Psuedo" hiatus re-airing all those same Ep's that were just dumped on the app individually week to week

It felt so odd that they did this because Moon Girl's 2nd season had half its season dumped on the App. Proud Family's 2nd season had its ENTIRE season dumped on the app when the last season, Ep's were airing week to week

So whomever the fuck is responsible for what does and doesnt get immediately put on the App needs to be fired.

>>143302076
>pointlessly extended hiatus
People keep saying this but it was a pretty standard gap between first and second seasons

>>143301990
because it was a generic show only praised by pedos

>>143301990
The actual reason is Disney's retarded scheduling decisions

>>143301990
The show peaked partway through the first season, everything after that was boring

>>143302254

Molly's airing schedule reminded me of Craig of the Creek's. I remember when Craig went on almost Steven Universe level hiatuses where one day, randomly at the beginning of the middle of a random month they would either dump 4 Ep's on the CN website (Pre-Max) or air them all individually throughout the week and then go on hiatus again

I remember when Molly random dumped 4 Ep's and then went back on Hiatus again.

>>143302188
Disney went full retard and delayed the season 2 premiere despite several episodes being ready. It was why the leaks were happening, the leaker was trolling them for sitting on probably half a season of new episodes. We're lucky it didn't get MaoMao'd.

>>143302186
>You thought S1's schedule was worse then S2's
Point where it said that. Poor scheduling made S2 a lot shittier than it already was.

>>143302270

I find it hilarious how Amphibia, Owl House and Molly were the 3 shows that would leak constantly. You literally never see this shit with garbage shows like Hailey. People barely even remember what week Hailey's Ep's air

>>143302292
Molly’s didn’t start until season 2 and it was because of the straight reveal

>>143302292
Molly was the last show where anybody gives a shit about leaks after it’s already premiered.

>>143301999
Fuck off footnigger

>>143302258

Im assuming you mean the Ep where Andrea's redemption arc happened and then its never acknowledged about again since everyone on this board wrongly assumed between that and the Period Place we were gonna get "The Calamity Trio" again only this time Ghost Hunters?

Or at least cute girls with Ghost Powers?

because it was a generic show only praised by pedos

>>143302188
I don't get why they're saying that either. Molly's schedule wasn't any worse than other Disney shows. Amphibia had a year long gap between the first and second season, Big City Greens had a full year break between it's second and third season, Moon Girl had a full year break between it's first and second season. And all these shows, besides Moon Girl who had nearly every episodes dumped at once, had regular breaks throughout it's seasons. Surely those shows also had episodes ready for months before they were finally aired, but they still were made to wait. Molly didn't get any worse of a deal than any other Disney show that aired alongside it.

>>143302292
because leakers wanted clout, and those were the kind of shows they believe would give them what they wanted

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>>143302339

I dont think they were looking for clout when leaking anything in regards to Molly. I think they just found it funny the reactions /co/ and /trash/ were getting when the promotional art from the discord and then later the scripts dropped

>>143302334

See thats the thing tho. Literally everyone who claims to like Sneeds is either watching for Gloria or is lying to you because you can look at the engagement those and the Hailey threads get

Look I know /co/ has been an awful board that has been slow as hell for what feels like forever but you can see the lack of engagement in the threads. There is a reason why more and more shows are becoming /trash/ bound on this board.

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>>143302238
>>143302329
We heard you the first time you fucking parakeet.

>>143302421

I will say this tho. Libby Shitpost threads have made me grow more on Libby as a character then the actual show did

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>>143302421
ok

>>143302434
So instead you're some retard who chose to say the exact same thing as another post.

>>143302395
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking scheduling here. And I wouldn't say /co/ is slow. It's still about an hour or so from last post before getting kicked off the catalogue for threads here. That's a decent pace. Not /v/ or something fast but still reasonably fast.

>>143302447

Depends on the time and day of week. I know Harriet, Molly and Harriet threads are the slowest threads on this board.

>>143302446
>who chose to say the exact same thing as another post
I said it because it's true

>>143302395
>Literally everyone who claims to like Sneeds
They don't like it because they like to watch it, they like it because it's more successful than brown girl shows and they see that as a win

>>143302315

lmao Hailey threads are pretty much sitting thru the worst of Molly threads like how Owl Threads used to make fun of Amphibia's show for being too boring and predictable.

>>143302456
No they aren't. If you are talking about shows in this vein then Hailey would probably be the slowest. But besides that there's no point in gauging their speeds to each other. Thread speed isn't really a metric worth recording. Again, we're talking scheduling and what went wrong with one show in particular.

>>143302468

And on a side note Gloria is cute because she's a Girl Failure and his voiced by Sasha.

>>143302395
/co/ has deteriorated into essentially being a summer vacation home for people who only watch "topical" cartoons, ie those the twittersphere talks about. I thought Molly was great, and even Hailey has grown on me, and they'd have gotten a lot more discussion a few years ago. Cartoon discussion has really dropped off it feels like.

>>143302481
>>143302481
Her parents are gonna walk in on her having furious, tear-soaked sex with that thing

>>143302499
Molly did get discussion. A massive wave of it at the start and it continued for quite a while. But that all died off soon into the second season and crashed hard after a point. The show got it's shot but it didn't end up delivering and the threads reflected that. The only way to get a Molly thread anywhere anymore is if one is complaining about it. No one seems to really want to talk about the show anymore. Though you are more or less right about the rest of your post.

>>143302488
>>143302499

Its a real bad time in the animation industry. I would argue we've now hit a point that makes 2010 or god forbid Pre 2010 seem like a utopa we took for granted which is horrifying because those era were argued as the death of TV animation as a whole

But everything feels so empty. What good is hype if animation companies would rather kill themselves then spend money on anything that isnt a familiar brand IP

>>143302522

The most activity I ever see in Molly threads boils down to the same 3 topics over and over again

>Andrea deserved better
>Libby is adorable
>Thank Christ none of those scripts were ever funded or animated

>>143302539
Yes. That's what Molly is left with because of how disliked the second season was. Not a great situation but there's not a surprise considering how that season went. At least loving Libby hasn't changed too much since the start of the show.

>>143302539
Don't forget
>Molly loves cocks get fucked yurifags, eventually shifting to Ollie ruined the show
>The wraith ending would be totally fucking bonkers and implode the fanbase if it actually happened, which pretty much died down after it actually did happen and everybody was cool with it

>>143302575

I still wanted to know more about that rejected Jinx/Andrea script. Everything about that is high potential compared to anything they went and did with Jinx which is nothing.

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Bill and Bob got cucked out of their own show by talentless writers who turned various characters into their own vanity projects.

Very Pen Wardian.

>>143302600
Shut up bitch

>>143302564

Also

>Where is Tammy
>Why the fuck wont they bring Tammy back

>>143302604
I'm gay btw I'm not sure if that matters

>>143302604

Why doesnt this twitter user immediately go over to Sam King and bitch to him about it because Andrea's retarded unfinished storyline was his fault. You'd think if people were more strongly for the idea of pairing Molly and Andrea together even the people who wanted the ship and didnt watch the show they would have voiced their opinions louder

See I always knew the people who wanted that ship the strongest were lapsed Owl House fans who were upset their show ended prematurely and needed to live vicariously thru another

>>143302619
This show was genuinely awful at handling it's side characters and background ones. It's baffling they kept introducing new characters when they had so many from the start of the show to work with. That and the seeming fear they had at doing a single Molly at school episode.

>>143302647
>twitter users
That's one of the show's writers

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>>143302630
Who won that GLAAD?

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>>143301990
Fail? I think you meant "died with some dignity left"... even if Season 2 is subpar compared to Season 1, is still for the most part watchable.

Considering what was in store for Season 3, Molly truly dodged a bullet by being cancelled. Sam King was about to become what Sabrina Cotugno was for SvTFOE.

>>143302658
Molly didn't even get nominated for anything, which made the bait episode about muh thai culture with the character literally named Emmy all the more hilarious

>>143302672
>died with some dignity left
Only because they managed to beg their way into one last pity episode. One can only imagine how the show would be remembered if it ended on the Jinx episode

They had the perfect cast of cute girls to make 2/3 of them a yuri pair and threw it in the trash
>molly falls in love boy!molly
>andrea is a lesbian but she likes some fat ogre self-insertion
>libby is a femcel
Season 2 completely killed the show

>>143302604
>andreatroons are spics
what a fucking surprise

>>143302680

See if they only waited out and animated those scripts they likely would have banked on that GLAAD award harder because they lean deeper into that retarded plotline with Andrea but it still feels like 2 ep's worth of content in a 20 Ep season

>>143302701
That's Portuguese, chud

>>143302693
Truth to be told? I think even an open ending with the Jinx episode would have been better than Season 3.

>>143302395
>Literally everyone who claims to like Sneeds is either watching for Gloria or is lying to you because you can look at the engagement those and the Hailey threads get

The one's bitching about it is the gloriafags. Because of their "no gloria, no watch" rule, they think any other episode that's not focused solely on her, would walk out and leave the thread left to die.

>>143302729

Look this is a common thing in all threads. I can go over all of them right now

>Amphibia threads
>WHERE THE FUCK IS SASHA
>Owl threads
>WHERE THE FUCK IS AMITY AND BOSCHA
>Molly Threads
>WHERE THE FUCK IS ANDREA AND TAMMY

Then Hailey threads there is nothing like this. Maybe Hailey's mom but thats about it

>>143302680
It's hilarious, they made several diversity-conscious episodes hoping to win some sort of award, only to be beaten by a canceled show made on a shoestring budget.

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>The Ghost and Molly McGee fans explaining how the entire second half of the show isn't indicative of the series' quality

Kids don't want to watch episodes about periods and climate change.

>>143302741

I find it funny in that tweet that Sam King made about starting the show you can feel the contempt reading it as if Disney higher ups brought him in to remind Bill and Bob this show is actively tanking its ESG score

Like im convinced he might have actually been all for pairing Molly and Andrea together without hesitating which would have better connected those S1 storylines together but when higher ups told him no they had to go with Plan B...which was a worse plan. A plan so bad it cancelled the show.

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Welp, thread's over. Andreafag is here.

>>143302762

And even then those Ep's werent as controversial as when they aired compared to when the synopsis's dropped before the Ep's did. Period Place is just kinda boring. If anything its more a Libby Ep with Andrea being tacked on then a proper Andrea wants to join the gang Ep.

>>143302744

>Hailey's On It fans explaining here is how their show can not get cancelled

>>143302792
That's every DTVA since 2021, including Molly. No matter how many times it happens in a row, they're still convinced that this time will be different and that they can get another season just by wanting it hard enough

>>143302697

Libby's not really a femcel. See you cant really call her that because that would mean she's bitter about the relationships that are getting in the way of her friendship or for her to actually be the cuckqueen and she's indifferent to both.

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I really don't know how some of you got the impression that Andrea was meant to be anything more than a minor side character but you need to make peace with reality or kill yourselves I just want to talk about the show and post screenshots and cute fanart and you niggers just keep saying the same three things over and over again like autistic children

>>143302807

>That one tired anon in every Hailey's thread asking when is the trailer for Primos

>>143302818
I know people say this a lot but it's literally one guy

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>>143301990
The reluctancy of watching the more successful neighbours (Big City Greens, Loud House) where they depict poor white people (the majority of US population) and thinking how the boring stories of adults, gay and jEWish representation was more important than fun adventures with Molly and Frens

The staff was handled a treasure (Great character design and godly animation) but they're so cowardly, creatively bankrupt that they turned it into trash.

>>143302792
I was pretty much one of the only active people in the Hailey's On It threads, I don't think a single person there thought it was getting a second season after it was announced Kiff was getting one but no word for Hailey, which was literally right around the time HOI premiered too. Kind of a shitty way to soft-kill the show going in, sort of like how they let the title "The End" leak before season 2 of Molly premiered.

>>143302818

I mean...she got Molly her house back thats a pretty big fucking thing for a girl who hates real charity to do that isnt something that minor characters would be written to do even as a gag

You wanna talk about minor characters no one talks about how Libby gets 1 big isolated plot in S2 and then does jack shit for the remainder of the series. All of her plots were S1 exclusive even in the scripts they had one plan for her.

So if anything Libby and Andrea got the same treatment that Willow and Gus did.

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>>143302822
Now it's two, motherfucker.

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>>143302807

>>143302839

So...I know Brighton is a shithole but why does their school have a Geode Club

Was Andrea strongly all for showing off her rock collection?

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>>143302836
Rosie is basically the Libby version of Murrlogic, pay xer no mind.

>>143302835

>Hailey's On It is seriously fucking ending on a school dance Ep

Truly...Hailey...was on It.

>>143302818
Sorry anon, but the time has long since passed to be able to have a thread like that. You had the entirety of the first season to do that. Now this is the state the threads are in and will be. It's mostly just one or two desperate anons, but that's enough. At least until they get bored and find a different obsession, but god knows how long that will take.

>>143302835
Then the lead VA described the show as "short-lived", but still what little discussion the show still gets is all "hope this gets a second season" or "don't lose hope we could still get a second season" because they don't want to accept that the show didn't even last a year and the final boss is a fucking dating app

>>143302864

Why does /co/ even still have Molly threads werent all these regulated to /trash/

>>143302835
At the same time Kiff got that announcement Hailey got the announcement that it was getting ten episodes added to it's new season wasn't it? I don't think anyone would have expected that to be a death knell, but apparently it was.

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>>143302851
Although i appreciate your interest in keeping alive TGAMM conversation, you and I know it was because the hack writers (although that episode was good) wanted a silly parable that mirrored the whole perception the people had on Andrea with her actions on the episode

>>143302872

You wanna talk about shows with active contempt for their premises. The writers at this point are practically begging Hailey to just shove her stupid journal in a drawer and never acknowledge it. Hell she doesnt even need the journal a lot of the time to get these boring plots off the ground.

>>143302874
No, no show was sent to /trash/ for long. Same with Arcane and the frogs and owls. Just a knee jerk reaction that only lasted a few months.

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>>143302874
One tranny janny had a hateboner for TGAMM that barred having threads as long as the show existed.
Now that the show is dead, there's no sign of dilations from this janny

>>143302882

They should have leaned deeper into Andrea's rock related autism. I think it would have been a funny gag

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>>143301990
It just feels unlucky. It just didn't get the attention it deserved. I think the first few episodes made it seem more like a kid's show and less like a show for all ages. As opposed to Gravity Falls where it's clearly made for all ages from the start. I think changing up the episode order or just scrapping the first few episodes would help.

This might sound weird but TGAMM's failure reminds me of another great cartoon that died too soon. UnderGrads, that show had okay ratings but not Beavis and Butt-Head level ratings so MTV canned it. And I always felt like if the creator went out of his way to do a press tour for the show that it could have gotten the hype it needed for another season. I feel the same way for this show. Like what if the creator contacted a bunch of YouTubers and offered up interviews and stuff that would increase hype and provide free advertising.

The attached image is just a background I really like. This show had the best art style.

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>>143302832
I feel like this is a big part of the answer. TGAMM didn't really lean into what separates it from those other shows, the ghosts, enough... and I'm not sure Disney would even let them. There seems to be a low ceiling for how scary they'll allow a Disney channel cartoon to get.

Without the ghost and ghostly-magic-curse shenanigans, it just because another "kids doing kid things" show, and even then they kept fucking that up when they had entire episodes about Molly's dad trying to be hip.

>>143302853
Who the fuck is Rosie

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>>143302894
You, anon, clearly have more weight in creative material than the sodomites on the writting team.

>>143302899
But it got a pretty big amount of attention in it's time? Just that it died down very quickly past a point. Around the second season.

>>143302874
It never needed to get trashbanned again because season 2 was so lukewarm discussion never even lasted a full thread

>>143302899

Molly McGee from the pitch bible was originally scheduled to be released sometime between 2005 and 2006. The fact this show released during the Pandemic which resulted in the culling of content and then the massive budget crisis effecting most companies right now I dunno why Bill and Bob thought that long of a time lapse was the perfect instance to finally rework and then release their show

Its like watching the Youtube Pitch for Final Space and then seeing the AS version of Final Space and seeing theyre two completely different shows.

>>143302915

Now Hailey is having the same problem.

>>143302907
Season 3 would’ve leaned even further away from the ghosts

>>143302893
Yeah I don't know what was the problem with that faggot. I remember making threads that would get deleted in sub 10 seconds and it wouldn't even have any text indicating it was a Molly thread just a picture of Molly and a line from the show
>>143302907
It was the fucking bullshit that came with connecting the international market
China and the muslims hated ghosts which was a likely thing that make the creators have to keep away from the ghost world
Covid hurt it alot as well and lets not forget the troon sam king whose first order of business was to establish gay

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>>143302908
Internet fem-autist that is obsessed with Libby, she found out about /tgamm/ on trash through discord and has been sperging Andrea hate since she's more popular than Libby.

>>143302918
>Molly McGee from the pitch bible was originally scheduled to be released sometime between 2005 and 2006.
BillBob claimed they had been trying to pitch this show for many years multiple times. I don't think it was that they chose the year for it to premier themselves, just that someone finally took the chance and green lit the show. Just bad luck that it happened when it did and the show came out the years where they started cutting costs and sinking shows.

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I feel like TGAMM truly died sometime early in season 2. Not before or right when Ollie was introduced, as some people were saying. I liked the gag in the second or third (iirc) season 2 episode, that takes place in the book store, and Molly is acting like a lovey-dovey simp while Libby and Scratch roll their eyes at her.

It was the school dance episode, where Libby and the tall farm girl are simping HARD over "Mollie" (they literally try to force a ship name in the episode, a big no no) that caused the fanbase to start to crash. Then they had that awful Thai episode and right after it a long hiatus for everyone to sit and think how awful the show suddenly got, and it never recovered.

>>143302922

And whatever Ghost related plots there were HAD to have Olly as the main focus. Olly being in the show at all reminded me how Hunter as a character in Owl House existed only to be emasculated and tormented in every scene he was in. Like Dana said "He'll be in shots but you wont like what happens to him."

>>143302907
I actually liked how they made the ghosts explicitly dead people, as most kids shows involving ghosts seem to skirt around that, but they were gradually doing that less and less as time went on. The very first ghost introduced after Scratch is the only ghost with an explicit cause of death, and in season 2 only one new ghost was actually a dead human and not just some random monster, and we all know how things went with Scratch himself. Season 3 didn’t seem to have any new ghosts at all

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>>143302934
The show died with him.

>>143302908
She’s Lilith

>>143302943

The S3 script reads too much like a Hasbin plot like replace demons with human souls and instead of the demons feeling pretty indifferent towards Charlie's singular goal, Olly just wanted to get rid of all ghosts to have his family seek other career paths.

>>143302921
Hailey never got a trash ban in the first place because nobody cared.

>>143302929
>>143302953
Are you those fucking twitter tourists who followed her to /trash/ because she blocked you on twitter?

>>143302926
>Chinese ruin everything, in and out of universe

>>143302934

Davenports on Demand was literally the moment the show dropped between 70-90K. I remember during the Quarterly Ratings dumps on the Disney Twitter App, Molly and Moon Girl were tied to the point where it was a literal race to the bottom

By the smallest margin possible what was being gauged is that despite how boring both shows were, people rathered sticking to just watching Molly to watching Moon Girl but the difference was so insignificant on a ratings pattern you could have spit in the ocean

>>143302954
Just shut the fuck up already.

>>143302945
Why did Scratch kill him?

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>>143302963
Sometimes if the trash threads would had lasted to the number 480 without that retarded drama.

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>>143302992
Why did the writers killed him?
For retarded reasons.

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>>143302992
Same reason Brighton was founded by Ezekial Tugbottom, of course!

>>143302954
>>143302941
>>143302888
>>143302836
>>143302763
These are some of the most repetitive threads I’ve ever seen, I swear I’ve seen these exact posts made dozens of times

>>143302932

Imagine waiting for a global pandemic that lasts 4 years to release your show and then being told you're getting cancelled after your 2nd season begins production

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>>143303014
prove it

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>>143303018
They supported the scamdemic, so they can lose their jobs over it.

>>143303014
I'm beginning to believe some autistic Andreafag, an oxymoron I know, made a bot.

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>>143303035
>made a bot.
Perhaps Andrea herself? She is quite capable.

>>143303018
Must have been a hell of a shock for BillBob. They wait all these years, two decades almost, and finally get their show greenlit. Only for it to come out right when things when things get to their worse over on Disney's animated branch and shows are scrambling to stay alive.

>>143302992
Funniest part of season 3 is heavily implying that the actual reason Molly didn’t become chairman is because she’s a girl

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>>143301990
No AR episode.

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>>143303072
>AR
Arnold Rothstein? Libby's great grandfather?

>>143303049

>That one anon every thread who malds about how Olly's sister took development away from Andrea because hacking was suppose to be Andrea's skill

Its like those people in King of the Hill threads who look too deep into early season Luanne knowing how to fix cars and Hank actually being impressed that she is capable of at least doing something she knows Bobby should learn how to do someday

>>143301990
Why is she so ugly?

>>143303054

Molly McGee can at least rest assured its School Dance Ep was the beginning of their final season and not the series finale Ep like Hailey is

>>143303102
They have the exact same title pun too

>>143303102
Possibly, but they set up the dance to be start of their new season and the setup for what they hoped would lead to more seasons. We saw how that went. Hailey has it's dance episode set up as it's finale instead. A different kind of dance episode goal.

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>>143303093
To be fair, hax0r Andrea was at the very least a two (?) episode thing before they introduced June as the tech wiz kid when they actually started giving their aut rep episodes late in season 2.

I don't know if "steal" is the right thing, since Andrea at least had some nuance into what she was doing (coding) while June was just a generic genius tech wiz kid like Dexter or Jimmy Neutron.

>>143303116
>actually started giving their aut rep episodes late in season 2.
Not really honestly. The most she got was a b plot

>>143303116

Im kinda disappointed that Andrea didnt receive any blame from either member of her family since I know it wasnt entirely Andrea's fault but Andrea's actions led to a series of events that almost led to them moving away and starting over

You'd think Maxwell would be losing his shit over who was responsible for causing his nest egg to go tits up since Andrea is the brand. The brand cannot exist without Andrea being cute and near the later half of the series Andrea's personality switched between what makes the company happy vs what makes other people happy hence her obsession she forms in S2

>>143303153
You know it’s Murrlogic when he mentions Andrea’s dad by name

>>143303054
To think that if covid didn't set them a year behind they could have anchored themselves as one with amphibia and the other shows but it was essentially a border show that only existed to be a new show to bridge the gap between everything ending and the new shows beginning.

>>143303072
A episode with a bunch of curses would have been great. Imagine a turtle Libby and a melted ice cream Molly trying to take care of a little Andrea who seems to always slip away from them
None of that cringe diaper shit though

>>143302672
>Sam King
>Sabrina Cotugno
>The guy who took over Adventure Time after Pendleton Ward left
Do we have any cases of recent shows (say... post 2010s?) that kept their quality or even got better after their original showrunner left?

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>>143301990
Because no one watches MollyMcGee, just like no one cares to watch the owl shit house. So both ended up sharing a similar fate of getting shitcanned by Disney.

>>143302941
>emasculated and tormented
We get it anon you have a small Penis

>>143303159
>reddit spacing
>constantly shitting on the show
>obsessed with Andrea
>Olly [sic]
He's singlehandedly made these threads unbearable.

>>143303924
>Olly
This is the one I don't get. How on earth did he get Olly from Ollie? If he didn't like the nickname he could have called him by his full name, Oliver, but instead he keeps misspelling the name. Is it some bit or something he's doing?

>>143303170
Agreed, they really should've done more with the curses. Of course, the episode that they explain Scratch had more powerful curses was aired waaaay out of order for some reason too!

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The Dali of cartoon ships.

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>>143303810
How could TGAMM have managed to pull some of the same "popularity" that Amphibindia got? Episodes about Vishnu instead of the Talmud? Or maybe they should've gone ahead with that Andrea diarrhea plot?

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>>143302174
All the middle managers in TGAMM were writers that Disney poached from Loud House. Except they were the ones ruining TLH, like that fat bitch Crowley.

Boob and Blunder saw what happened when those werebeasts aired Savino out to dry over the flimsiest allegations I ever heard of, and knew they would be next if they didn't bend the knee and let them make "My experiences as a Thai mutt" and other trash episodes

>>143301990
I've never seen a series that abandoned its premise so quickly.

>>143304342
Right? We could have had ghost related stories for at least 3 seasons

>>143304342
Try any indie cartoon, most of them ditch their initial premise immediately after the pilot.

>>143304342
Basically the entire intro is outdated by the end

>>143304342
It's impressive, isn't it? The show was set up nicely for Molly and Scratch to have a near endless amount of run ins and fun adventures involving random ghosts all over Brighton and had a cast of characters it could have explored those ghosts alongside with. And then they rarely did any ghost of the week things and muddled about with other nonsense. Makes me wonder what was going on in the writing room for this to be what we got.

>>143301990
>>143302604
I know them for writing good episodes of Dreamworks series (highlighting Madagscar's Penguins and Kung fu Panda...) and what really surprises me is this stumble (although it wouldn't be the first I've heard of this, Scott Fellows also resonates too).

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>>143301990
Molly only has one ghostbuster boyfriend and that's Danny!

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>>143304637

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>>143304646

>>143301990
Molly didn't dedicate the last 5mins of each episode as a femdom jerkoff orgasm countdown joi for the audience.

>>143303072
>>143303109
Alright, this is kino.

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>>143304637
Agreed.

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>>143304227
Your impotent schizo babble has fallen on deaf ears. It is just as sad and ineffective as the number of years you have been living rent-free in Amphibia threads shilling for garbage shows. You have jumped bandwagoning from The Owl House to Molly to Hailey, hoping that someday these cartoons will go far beyond your expectations, only for these shows to have similar outcomes of getting canceled and mocked to death for their shitty writing.

Tell me, how does it feel to have spent all of your sweat and blood spamming and wailing like a room-temp IQ mook, only resulting in you failing your life even further? Oy vey! You have been ousted from so many cartoon shows at this point that you could apply yourself to a merchant guild, except you don't have the quality (or the brain, frankly) to be one of the chosen people to live a successful life.

Maybe this is a reflection of who you are. I would suggest you look for an alternate career playing Bozo the Clown, but it looks like you're already way ahead of me this time as I see you have already invested in the persona, being nothing more than a pathetic clown chasing after his clown shoes that every step it takes toots these honking noises, which describe just the absurdity of the biggest self-owned situation you have just put yourself into. You're the epitome of the walking punchline of a failed, unfunny joke.

>>143301990
This is like the 3rd brown dyke show that fails

>>143302481
>>143302495
I'm sad now

>>143304835
Ain't reading all that. Here's your reply so you feel fulfilled.

>>143304342
Hazbin Hotel forgets its premise since episode 1. Being redemption to War.

>>143301990
>introduce stakes in first episode
>completely remove stakes in final episode of first season

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>>143304835
Tl;dr

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>>143301990
It failed because it didn't drop its initial premise quickly enough. Look at how long shows like TLH and CotC have run. It should have focused on the human characters' small town adventures instead of wasting half the episodes on the boring ghosts.

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>>143304835
tl:dr

>>143302680
Wait, Molly wasn’t nominated for anything? So Sam King just showed up to the event with her girlfriend just because?

>>143307092
Yes

>>143307092
Imagine the situation after the event.

>girlfriend: you promised me you would win a prize tonight!
>sam: love, please give me another chance.
>girlfriend: NO! I only date winners, goodbye loser!

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the songs in season 2 feel a lot less memorable...
though to be truthful, i dont think any of this show's musicals reached the popularity levels of some of PnF's

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>>143307137
Wow. I know she did a DTVA panel talking about The Importance of LGBTQ+ Representation when the only real ‘credit’ she had to her name on that front was making Penumbra a lesbian because Frank Angones was about to put the character into a relationship with Launchpad in DuckTales. She really, really wants to the next Rebecca Sugar.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Sam King was supposed to put Andrea and Alina in the Chibiverse Valentine’s episode but decided to change it to Della and Penumbra at the last minute. It’s too suspicious at how she pretended that it was a ‘surprise’ online.

>>143307205
90% of the songs are just montage filler

>>143306522
>half
Not even close, a quarter at most

Why did quirky brown girl with a pet part 3 fail

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>>143307346
>with a pet
Human beings aren’t pets you sick fuck.

>>143301990
Temerity. I know everyone complains about season 2, but I felt it by middle of season 1. This is a concept that left so much potential unexplored because it chose to avoid any deeper character conflicts. There's no sustained drama to it, and I don't mean in the cheap melodramatic or forced way. There should have been wins and defeats, advances and setbacks. And maybe, certain characters should have remained antagonists until the end.
I'm not going to call the show woke or anything like that. This was the show they made. They were very good at some things. But ultimately it didn't operate on my wavelength, and that's fine. 2 seasons isn't too bad this day and age, but in short order TGAMM will be something most people won't think about it until they come across new r34.

>>143301990
It tried to progress too much, the shows premise doesn't really lend to that, it needed to just stay goofy ghost antics with a tight cast and good jokes.
Now that I really think about it, the season 1 finale is what killed it, because it was really a finale, an end to the show. I guess no one had faith in the show so they aired what should have been saved for the last season.

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>>143302929
What are you talking about? Libby was in the show more so she is more popular you making stuff up. Also Rosie watches Harriet The Spy lately

>>143307420
Both seasons had two separate season finales

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>>143302818
The person who posts Andrea knows she is the basic rich girl and Libby is more original so they hate that and spam lol dunno why but it ruins the threads

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>>143307433
Yay I love Harriet The Spy :)

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>>143307223
I don't know how involved is Sam King on Chibiverse, but putting Penumbra and Della just goes to show how her and her generation of "modern" artists are working with the sole purpose to push forward their personal ships and self-inserts that just happen to be mainly gay because they are a bunch of fujos.

The whole fight for representation and diversity is just the card they use to justify it... or even lie to themself that they are doing it for something greater than just fuel what creams their pants.

>>143301990
The Ghost should've been a cute girl ghost

>>143302738
Also
>Marcy’s adorable

>Libby’s adorable

>…….(actually haven’t seen any thing like that from the owl house fandom)

>>143302604
>Sammie Crowley ruining a show
No shit Sherlock

>>143307506
Just swap it around so that Molly is the ghost and Scratch is the human

>>143302744
Mexican zoomer detected

Bump

>>143307377
Ok, you're right, the ghost and his pet.

>>143307505
We get it you're unbearable to be around fuck off.

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>>143301990
The ending was kino

>>143304671
To be fair he had bad experiences with most of those kind ghosts at least once.

>>143307505
fujos like gay men, not lesbians.

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>>143304671
Billy is cute

>>143302292
Leak culture is !00% for clout and attention for being "based" and "exclusive" and "sticking it to the man" mentality.

Only the hardcore fans suffer from leaks that want to experience the material officially, in real time, not from some retarded news outlet or insider saying shit out of pocket.

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Libby art I recently did

>>143307205
Nome of these shows got to the same level as long, that series will remain on ng for a little longer

>>143301990
Did it actually fail though?

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The show needed to be more like the Beetlejuice cartoon and have constant episodes surrounding Molly and Scratch doing dumb supernatural hijinx. Instead, it focused way too much on the other kid characters and Molly's blossoming friendships with them while Scratch seemed to only exist to sometimes jumpstart a plot with them.

Like, I don't give a shit if Scratch gives some kids a book that lets them talk to animals and then he fucks off to eat tacos. I want Scratch and Molly to work together to read a book that lets them talk to animals, find out that one of them is a cat that wants to take over the world and has a giant cartoon stink bomb that he plans to set off, so Molly and Scratch have to work together to stop him.

Can you imagine how fucking boring Beetlejuice would be if 80% of the episodes focused on Lydia's reject school friends? That's what TGAMM did.

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>>143304637

>>143311232
Yes

>>143307969
Touched a nerve, I see.

>>143311810
Took you five hours to come up with that zinger, huh

>>143311970
I'm just not terminally online, anon.

>>143309119
Wait... is there a weaboo word for liking any kind of gay?
I know "himejoshi" is for female yurifags, but given hime means princess, I don't see people using that as the wider term either.

>>143301990

A distinct lack of pregnant Libby

>>143302481
>>143302495
Probably closer to canon that my headcanon of Molly coping without Scratch

>>143303072
The legacy of Teagum

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>>143302481
>>143302495
I wonder how long it will take for someone to make or commission a comic where Molly goes full psycho and kills Todd to get Scratch back.

If it has already been done... could you sauce me up?

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>>143313796
There are more convenient candidates for her new ghost friend.

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>>143313818
Molly could reunite her original potential besties candidates and help force them take that next step into permanent ghost adventures.

>>143313862
>>143313818
>True crime
>Disturbed girl kills best friend to 'summon her as a ghost'

>>143307377
Took the entire series for him to stop being a flying booger

>>143311422

You know when you put it that way it suddenly dawned on me that unlike Anne and Luz who both really wanted to get back to either Amphibia or the Boiling Isles, Molly literally only goes to the Ghost Dimension because she had to save Scratch and baring that one example Molly has zero interest in exploring that area

You know you'd think Molly would wanna know everything about Ghost culture but when S2 began they made zero attempt at having Molly give a shit even when her BF who also has Ghost Powers literally hunts ghosts

Its so odd. Brighton is a shithole. At some point you dont wanna begin and end every Ep in some shit flyover town where the reason why its such a shithole is because of Andrea's dad

>>143302738
Hailey threads have Kristine

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because the show didnt keep andrea as a spoiled, bratty mean girl, or feature her much at all past season one, or make her a straight trans girl instead of yet another lesbian. basically there should've just been more s1 andrea episodes throughout the rest of the series

still leagues better than borephibia

>>143315884
>still leagues better than borephibia
Aaand... you just lost all credibility points you had with me. Pity.

>tfw the stupid VHS joke might have cost them diversity awards
I'm just speculating but I think it would be hilarious if that was actually the case.

>>143315917
>Aaand...
Faggot detected

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>>143316067
This was probably the biggest exposure season 2 ever had on social media, just fucking embarrassing.

>>143316013
One would argue to you need to be a faggot to even give a namefag credibility in the first place, so what you are saying is technically redundant.

>>143301990
Grotesequely ugly character design and a market already oversaturated by Didney's own other brown fantastical quirkster girl offerings

>>143301990
It was based on your life.

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>>143316067
These type of jokes tend to make kids feel offended and that even the know the people making the show are way out of touch boomers.

This episode actual premiered alongside the Molly McMutt episode, and I heard it called in another thread the "1 2 punch" where the Thai episode killed the 4chan chuddie fanbase, and the VHS joke killed the normalfag/target audience.

>>143316132
They don't usually admit it but 80% of the fandom dropped out when Molly blushed at a boy

>>143316181
It was also the last ghost of the week episode the show ever had

>>143316132
Why couldn't it have been like Glitch Techs and have a showrunner accidentally retweet ToonBabifier art?

>>143316233
Bob did like several drawings from a guy who draws Scrolly art, including one where Molly calls Scratch her bf.

>>143316239
Yeah but did any of them feature a side-character in a poofy diaper?

>>143316233
Bald and Bankrupt's one interaction with fans ended up with one of them getting cryptobro hacked and a bunch of fans getting their IRL shit exposed. Retweeting fetish art would've been the least of their worries.

>>143316255
There's also the time Bob promise "cheese pizza" for everyone

>>143316067
The showrunners must really have no idea how popular analog horror is among kids these days.

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>>143313326

sex with andrea

>>143316184
This.
I know I did, lol
I now get why moeshit anime never introduces love interests, or boy characters at all

>>143307205
They could have cut 2/3 or the songs desu

People talk about season 2 of TGAMM the way they talk about Season 10+ of other shows.

>>143316525
It went zombie so fast.

>>143316496
giving him a reach around during

>>143302701
I feel insulted... I really thought the ones causing all that troony shit were the gringos

>>143302810
Fair enough, Libby ends up being a boring character.

Happy?

>>143313649
...and that is?

>>143307520
This, for a while those shits killed my interest in both threads.

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>>143301990
Because Disney is running out of money. They can't fund any cartoon into a third season. The actual ratings are irrelevant. The company is falling apart and doesn't have enough capital to finish a show properly, which is why almost every major show in the past 10 years has been ended after 2 seasons.

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>>143315917
if you must know why i dont care for borephibia- the frogs are ugly and annoying and i have like minimal interest in dungeons and dragons old timey shit where there's no technology or cute fashion. also while i don't *hate* the amphibia artstyle in comparison to actual shit ass ugly shows like bobs burgers and fanboy and chum chum. the ghost and molly mcgee has a way cuter artstyle which is totally vital for how into a toon i'll get. (i was drawn to tgamm both because the art style is cute and because of all the transdrea memes seemingly catering to me specifically since im clinically narcissistic and love alpha bitches the mostest s1 andrea is literal prime self insert material for moi)

>>143316139
don't need to be credible or whatever, you all know i'm here for the attention good or bad and /lgbt/ gave my ego a victory lap like 2 days ago so i'm feeling particularly self-inflated at the momo. ^_^

>>143316162
rude

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>>143302810
>>143316710
Libby actually would've been more interesting as a bit of a girl failure (socially) which is what they were setting up in the pilot, but by the end of the softball episode she's as cool as the turtle's ass. Then they made her a Mollie simp which further rendered her character aimless, until she is left doing nothing but kissing turtles and dropping quotes well above her intellectual station.

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Loved season 1 but season 2 wasnt that great. the ending was also pretty alright but the show could have gone for at least 5 seasons if they played their cards right.
Love me some Dana Snyder. dude is great on everything.

>>143317194
Still a better character then Andrea at least she keeps my attention

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I'm getting tired of retards acting as is Molly being straight was a problem. Fuck off, not every fucking woman needs to be gay, hate sjws forcing this narrative.

The problem was Ollie was a character designed to VALIDATE Molly's toxic reality complex from constantly moving from place to place and making up headcanons to what a normal life should be like. They had ZERO chemistry because there was nothing being mixed, just the same A solution with the same A solution with a "B" label slapped on top. Just give Ollie his OWN characteristics to stand on, DON'T make them instantly fall for each other, actively show CLASH and moments of them finding the spark between each other naturally and with PROPER pacing, and THEN seal the deal with a situation that makes it clear to one of them "he/she is special to me" and there, no one would have had ANY issue with it.

That's why the latest examples of lesbo ships are working today, they have fucking CHEMISTY and isn't forced diversity points. Fucking TRY, and it will work. TGAMG DIDN'T TRY at ALL for Season 2 and especially the leaked Season 3. That's why it failed. It failed because the people likely saw the writing on the wall, literarily and figuratively, that the show was doomed since the 2000s in the first place. Once Covid happened it was all over.

>>143318910
That really is the main issue. Ollie had nothing going on there. He was just another Molly but boy. Which isn't exactly that bad as a side character but as a romantic interest that's not really that engaging. There's no give and take or conflict. No contrast. Part of why Molly and Scratch work together was because there was contrast and conflict. How they could have the show about a contrasting duo but then have the main romance end up not at all having any of that same elements is weird.

>>143318910
>>143319392
Personally, the writers has a abysmal taste in relationships, the way how they handled Molly and Ollie and the same for Andrea and Alina, which the latter was forced because of Sam King decided to add an ugly self-insert to bang Andrea and doing it for brownie diversity points, arguably it's no wonder that it got the GLAAD awards because of how lazy they did it. The former was result of lazy writing and the writers being bad at handling hetero couples. It sorta mirrored the same issue with Gabriella being Cricket's gf and she is just as boring as with Ollie and the writers really don't know what to do with them and oddly enough both mc having to stumble upon first seeing them by looks, which is the worst fucking thing to do in regarding to handling characters that they intended to be shipped with. If you're going to ship two people, you gotta make sure that they start off on a slow start, give it a season or two (or whatever number there is) and eventually the viewers will take notice of the character chemistry that's evolving slowly and naturally and then it gets to the "will they, won't they" thing, which it's cautioned whether they'll be official.

What we seeing now in cartoons are done fucking poorly and it indicates that writing is poor as they handled the characters.

>>143319935
>it got the GLAAD awards
Did it? I thought it wasn't even nominated?

>>143318910
>That's why the latest examples of lesbo ships are working today, they have fucking CHEMISTY and isn't forced diversity points.

Plus, they were usually planned to be lovers from the beginning. That's why I don't think there's any real issue with the relationship between Jeff and Geoff. It was planned from the start. Whereas relationships that are shoehorned in at the last minute because someone in the writers room said "We need a love interest" sucks.

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>>143307541
I’d watch it.

>>143321771
>It was planned from the start.
The writers admitted it wasn’t.

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>>143318652
make me

>>143302894
>no episode where she shows too much interest in rocks and weirds people out
>gets followed by Molly and Libby in the weekend to an abandoned cave
>Andrea has ghost miner friends who can't leave the mine until they hit it big
>something about unfinished business keeping them from leaving

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>>143322605
Man that woulda been so fucking good

>>143321794
>tfw the guy reminds me of Mr. Krupp

To the day I die I will never understand why the Thai episode made so many people seethe and mald. It was inoffensive at worst.

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>>143301990
Because Molly wasn't gay.

>>143304637
>Danny is canonically 14
How old is Molly again?
I have to make sure that the age gap isn't problematic before deciding whether to ship these two or not.

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>>143325051
i think i would've preferred andrea getting with molly than that weird looking thing but they are both straight girls

>>143324957
I didn't get too into the rage over it, but I do think it made a massive misstep by not at all referencing Molly's dad heritage. The segment's feeling and issue is one not just mixed kids but I feel also kids who are first or second generation could feel and I feel it did a poor representation and exploration of the feeling and the solution was a very poor one.

>>143325142
Eh, I still think Andrea would have been better off with Libby. They'd pair together interestingly.

Is S1 worth watching?

>>143325234
Why do you ask?

>>143324957
/pol/ got preemptively mad

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>>143325142
>but they are both straight girls
Well, Andrea certainly wasn't but the writers did it in the lamest way possible.

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It's like Bill and Bob spent twenty years pitching their show and when it finally got picked up and they started to actually work on it they went "Oh my God we don't have any ideas."

>>143325266
Because maybe I will watch it.

>>143325344
I don't give a shit if you watch it, just do it or don't.

>>143325359
Why are you bothering me about it if you don't give a shit?

>>143325192
>not at all referencing Molly's dad heritage
Mainstream media is not permittd to acknowledge white culture.

>>143325234
It's fine. Even entertaining in points.

>>143325396
I'll bother you if I fucking want.

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>>143301990
It didn't have Ollie from the beginning.

>hear people grouse about not getting a third season and saying the scripts would've been so good we were robbed guys
>look at the scripts
>ethnic holiday episode
>ethnic holiday episode
>another ethnic holiday episode
>gay episode
>episodes about the teachers and the retirement home seniors
>episode where poochie becomes ruler of the universe
Do kids actually like any of this shit?

>>143325441
Faint praise.

>>143325519
No one was even remotely entertaining the possibility of the third season being good anon. What few people were talking about it were relieved it didn't go through. May honestly be one of the few times the fan base was glad their show got cancelled.

>>143325441
>peak of the show is "fine" and "entertaining at points"
Wow this show fucking sucks.

>>143325448
I will GET you.

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>>143325563
Not here, I meant when it started spreading around on other sites because I guess people gave up on pretending leaks don't actually exist

>>143325591
Someone's bothered.

>>143325607
I don't know anon. There was some buzz the first week or two when those leaks came out but very soon that dried up too. If people were excited about those and were expecting them to be good they'd have drawn things and made waves about it. But they didn't. No one did. I'd say that's telling.

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>>143325647
There were some drawings.

>>143325668
Ah, so there was. Guess I missed those then. Fair enough.

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>>143325668
Bootleg Darcy

>>143325607
People thinking that Ollie being chairman would've been super interesting and exciting after we saw how making Scratch chairman for an entire season turned out is weird.

>>143316132
Almost as embarrassing as Moon Girl's biggest exposure on social media being a bunch of people getting really angry about somebody using somewhat strong wording to describe why they like a scene

>>143301990
Apparently there was a ghost hunter character?I love ghost busting stuff, I ate up stuff like yo-kai watch and yu yu hakusho, but I can't wade through some slice of life crap for that meat

>>143326030
They literally never do any actual ghost hunting.