What’s this guys problem? He never shuts up about Butch.
>>143295838he’s rent free about this useless guy, nothing more nothing less
who is this guy faggot? why are you showing us this literally who?
>>143295838Because Butch is a terrible person.
I would love to hear how the insiders see those online critics.
>>143295838Considering all the stuff we know about Nickelodeon now, Butch is probably the only somewhat good person who used to work there
>>143295838safe cancel
>>143295838Butch is a useless piece of crap anyway.
>>143295838Butch Hartman is an ez modo target because he's a hack and did do shady shit. That said, Hartman is just /co/ flavored DSP/Sword Art Online, aka justified snark bait with a hatedom that's somehow worse.
>>143295838Link the video faggot I’m going to go search formit
>>143296801DSP? That said, yes, nobody will ever defend this clown because he never made any good works, just repetitive pablum.
>>143296903>Massively popular creator >Is a Christian>"Oh no I can't acknowledge his accomplishments anymore! The mind filters are kicking in!"Btw, reminder that Danny Phantom is basically a teenage exorcist and Fairly OddParents comments on theodicy, his work was always explicitly Christian
>Sabrespark accusing anyone of hubris
It's a Chris Pratt situation. They hate him because he's a successful white man who goes to Church.
>>143297276He backstabbed Tara Strong when the Boxtown firing happen, he's always like this
>>143297231Who are you quoting? Also:>accomplishmentsSuch as?
>>143295838Please develop a personality outside of what influencers are saying.
>>143297340>Such as?Danny Phantom, Tuff Puppy, Fairly OddParentsbut keep being disingenuous and bitter
I don't know if Butch is actually a horrible person but he definitely has some kind of brain damage or severe mental illness.
>>143297325>He backstabbed Tara Strongwho did ? Hartman or Sabrespark ?
>Sabrespark
>>143295838I watched that video last night, still don't really know why people hate him so much. He had some boomer takes on mental health and made a failed Kickstarter, so what. As far as I can tell it's just a Chris Pratt thing where he's an open Christian and Twitter can't handle that.
>>143295838tl;dr? Everybody here already knows Butch is a hack and a religious conman.
>>143297393You mean because he doesn't think the same as your internet hive? >>143297568Stop trying to force unanimous agreement you lame buffoon
>>143297231Except the ghosts in Danny Phantom aren't actually dead people because Bitch Fartman thinks those kinda ghosts are ungodly.
>>143297708Which is why a revival would have Danny deal with actual ghosts and even demons
>>143296048Kek
>>143297298This
>>143295838Did I just travel back to 2007?
>>143297298>>143297231This pretty much sums it up
>>143295838Adult bluey fan that likes bluey push on his dick. Not even kidding.
>>143295838I forget, what did Butch actually do? My understanding is that he's just kind of was responsible for a bunch of shows of varying quality, and he tried to push a Christian network at some point that never took off. Is this just a Notch/Scott Cawthon situation where a mostly liberal audience realizes that the guy they idolize has differing political opinions and they use that as a reason to demonize him?
>>143298150That's literally it, yes. He's right wing and mediocre. way over hated when there are literal pedophiles in the industry.
>>143295875John Fountain, he was a storyboarder, character designer and director on some early 2000s Nicktoons, including the first 3 seasons of Fairly OddParents. He's been doing write-ups on his industry experience lately, seemingly for engagement to get eyes on his new indie animation studio. He talks about Butch sometimes as part of it, latest of it is that he doesn't get residuals and a lot of stuff he did for the show would apparently get accredited to Butch, or Butch making a small change would be enough to get his name in the director credits as well
>>143298373>latest of it is that he doesn't get residuals and a lot of stuff he did for the show would apparently get accredited to Butch, or Butch making a small change would be enough to get his name in the director credits as welllook, Saber might a fag, but Butch is a fucking prick for doing this
>>143298373Wow fuck you Butch
>>143297430More like Sabersperm
>>143296801>Implying people don't like DSP>>143297231What a bunch of shallow comparisons.
>>143298988Knowing Butch haters and your evident illiteracy your idea of "deep" is reading 1,000 pages of political nonsense into media
>>143299056What are you talking about? I'm just saying the DSP comparison is bullshit, i'm not even a Butch hater.
>>143299056stop diddling your niece
>>143298150>>143298265Are we forgetting the whole Oaxis con and the cult connections to the seven mountain shit?
>>143296048All cancels are safe cancels. That's what makes it a cancel.
>>143297231I bet they won’t dare to make an “exposé” on Doug Tennapel since he doesn’t take shit from nobody.
>>143297842Yes and no. The fedora thing in the late aughts was stupid because it was the combination of a more business formal attire piece with a t-shirt and jeans while this guy is wearing clothes that emulate a proper fedora getup for a noire larp. But the same smugness is there
>>143299148Yeah we all forgot that.He took millions of dollars for some big crowdfunded project that he then ran off with and never delivered on.
>>143299180"expose" as if everyone doesn't already know he's a deranged weirdo
>>143299148What the fuck is it with Evangelicals and constantly looking for ways to speed up the apocalypse instead of just letting Revelations happen on its own?
>>143295838What’s your problem, OP? You never shut up about how great Butch's cock is.
>>143299100>>143299105>GarbageMessaging more industry people >>143299243Why do you people feel compelled to dress up your hatred of conservatives and Christians as if it fools anybody (besides kids)
>>143299515i have yet to receive an email for you, maybe you're too busy fucking your niece to send them imho
>>143295838Where's Oaxis?
Butch is a shady-ass scammer with the Oaxis shit (did he ever actually acknowledge that?) but all these fags realistically just dislike him because he's Christian.
>>143296843https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBh58bk9StwSee you on the other side if I'm not taking a 3-Day Vacation.
>>143299224So let me get this straight, Butch is the wholesome Christian animation man...who ran off with money crowdfunding for a Christian streaming project?
>>143297490He's a liar and committed crowdfunding fraud. You obviously didn't watch the video.
>>143299148It's been, what, five or six years since the Oaxis thing broke. Does anybody still remember when he couldn't draw Ranma without tracing over official materials or tracing Mikasa Ackerman fanart?
>>143299611He couldn't even trace them that well.
>>143298373Yea I heard someone say that Butch simply suggesting one sentence should be phrased differently in the script gave him a writing credit equal to the person who actually wrote the whole script.
>>143299599>>143299603Not every crowdfunder succeeds, your negativity is overstated>>143299526Don't try to imply that you work in the industry, my harassers can barely form another thought over years, let alone even industry-quality storyboardsEnjoy your worthless degree
>>143299148>the cult connections to the seven mountain shit?qrd?Butch strikes me as a typical Evangelical (he tried really hard cozying up to Daystar TV during the Oaxis disaster) but not any kind of actual cult shit.
>>143299642I'll enjoy it as much as you enjoy your niece's pussy every time you babysit her
>>143299642email your imaginary friends about me, guyc'monnnnn
>>143299658alright I didn't want to ask but this gets brought up every time that guy posts so, did he actually commit the niecefuckery or is it a meme?
>>143299658>Tries to form another thought >It's just pedophile fantasiesPottery
>>143295838Look at that profile pic and tell me he's not a sweaty neckbeard atheist who thirsts for the execution of all Christian figures in the public eye.
>videos shows Butch is a hack because he's an egomaniac who stole credit from other people>THEY HATE HIM BECAUSE HE'S CHRISTIANEvery day I'm more grateful to be Catholic
>>143295838Hartmann Derangement Syndrome
>>143299622>>143299611To be fair to Butch on this regard, I don't believe he was tracing but rather referencing the official artwork on Ranma's case and the Mikasa fanart, because if you overlay them they don't match the way a trace would work.The Oaxis site is still up claiming "soon". It's been 5 years.
>>143299611>>143299622This honestly the most pathetic part about him. Imagine being an industry veteran who went to CalArts, has decades worth of animation experience, and literally worked at Hanna Barbera, yet still needing to trace anime characters for commissions. That's just prime hitting the wall.
>>143299647The Seven Mountains of fuckall are like this pseudo-christian cult that feel they need to infiltrate to all aspects of modern life to "save souls" of everybody world wide (and give money to the head honcho, of course), and one of these "mountains" are entertainment and arts.
>>143299855I never did understand this method of pop culture infiltration. Like yeah, people could subconsciously be turned to religion via entertainment, but if it's subconsciously planted ideas then isn't it much more likely that the person would go to one of the more widely recognized churches as opposed to something like Seven Mountains? And to top that off, in an era where everyone in the first world can either customize their own streaming experience or just flat out pirate shit, how do you even get people to watch your shit? I guess I'm always out of the know on this shit because I could never be fucked to care about the personal lives of the creators. So anything they're saying on social media, I usually miss.
>Unique Post numbers disappears>one samefag keeps trying to compare Butch to Chris PrattYou're never gonna get that Disney show, Butch.
>>143299842yeah even just looking at that picture I can tell that. Her hand is what stands out immediately...among other things.
Can anybody identify who's who in this pic? I already know Seth MacFarlane is in the far left.
>>143299855>religious (Christian) invasion of media...bad!>religious (Jewish) invasion of media.....good!
>>143300285nobody said that but you, retard.
>>143300232Butch is the black shirt up front, My guess is Fountain is the green shirt behind him
>>143295838>>143298373I appreciate Fountain sharing all this insider info and some stories from his time in the biz, but no way in hell am I watching a Sabershart video. That dude is the LAST YouTuber I'd consider does "good journalism."
>>143299999>>143299855>>143299647Seven Mountains isn't a church or cult, it's a plan. The idea is that to make Christianity more relevant, you need to control seven parts of American life. The current speaker of the house, Mike Johnson is part of the group striving to achieve Christian supremacy:>The tone, message and involvement of certain evangelical leaders put into public view Johnson's connections with figures that Taylor considers to be Christian extremists. Johnson is a Southern Baptist, but it's his ties with a particular network of non-denominational, charismatic Christians that's drawing scrutiny. The network is known as the New Apostolic Reformation, or NAR. The movement is small but growing quickly, and so is its political influence. Its followers believe there is a theological imperative to bring America under, quote, "biblical governance." They have a plan. It's known as the Seven Mountains Mandate, or dominion theology.>Dominionism is the theocratic idea that Christians are called by God to exercise dominion over every aspect of society by taking control of political and cultural institutions.
>>143300562This guy's voice is like dumping gravel mixed with snot inside an hourglass. He's really not suited to being a narrator/presenter.
>>143300670>the theocratic idea that Christians are called by God to exercise dominion over every aspect of society by taking control of political and cultural institutions>in 20 years US politicians went from fighting the Taliban to emulating the Taliban
>>143295838OP's problem is that he uses Xitter.
>>143300670Based.wtf I love Butch Hartman now.
>>143300726They always were though. This is from 2005:https://youtu.be/T-QZBcNPiGUIt's not a secret, it's been an inconvenient fact to keep from moderates and non-Christians.
>>143299611>>143299622I remember someone paid him a $1000 for him to draw Roxie from Pokemon BW2.
Eceleb threads should be punishable by death
>>143301157We're talking about a cartoonist, not an eceleb.
>>143295838I'm beyond fucking done with these video essay/drama news bullshit with the same sensationalist cringey thumbnails.The internet was supposed to be different from TV.
>>143301265>The internet was supposed to be different from TV.What gave you that idea? Flame wars are older than most of this websites userbase.
>>143299603>committed crowdfunding fraud.Zero evidence
>>143300232If ya want all of their names read the end credits of JB season 1.
Saberspark is a friend of Sarahz and Lady EmilyInstant disregard
>>143298373Good summaryFuck ButchSaber was rightPay your workersSaying otherwise marks you a boot lickerSimple asKys
>lies by claiming to have never worked for Disney>did small work on Talespin, 101 Dalmatians, Timon & Pumbaa, and Mickey MouseworksWell, this has been illuminating.
>>143300726It should also be known this is another instance of Evangelicals thinking that they can start the Revelations prophecy and bring about the end times.It reminds me of the 2000s zombie fad when Max Brooks came out and said that something way scarier than the zombie apocalypse was the fact that there were so many people who couldn't wait for it to happen
>>143300726>Nooo don't copy the guys who beat us!
>>143301568Atheism is the worst form of autism
>>143295838This guy has me blocked for drawing FOP rule 34.Not even Butch Hartman did that.
>Butch cancelled for tracing anime art and stealing money from investors for a streaming service>Tara Strong cancelled for comments about Palestine and Israel>Dionne Quan being cast as Toph in an Avatar spinoffKarma has a funny way of working itself out.
All this talk about Christianity and I just keep thinking about the time Saberspark actually subscribed for that one conservative streaming site to make that one review about ChipChilla only to freak out on Twitter when he realized he couldn’t unsubscribe. And everyone on Twitter gave him shit for giving Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh money. Fucking idiot deserved to get scammed just for that
>>143297298I don't remember Chris Pratt ever scamming anyone, stealing art, or being sued for not paying his employees.
>>143301688>you're either an evangelical apocalypse cultist or your an autistic atheistbrb damaging my brain with some Sonic the Hedgehog
>>143295838>>143299590Can I get a QRD on this shit? I'm not watching an hour and 30 minute long video (already with a fucking 5 minute long sponsor plug at the beginning) if its just the same shit I've heard a million times over>he made a failed kickstarter where he said something along the lines of "it will have good ol' christian values" at some church and it caused a nuclear kvetch from (((video essayists)))>he did some overpriced commissions and eyeballed traced one of them>his wife is a religious wacko like all WASPs>in response to him and Tara Strong an interview talking and it gets brought up that Timmy's original VA died Hartman joked that Tara Strong might've had something to do with that and it got twisted by video essayists into him making a direct joke about MKB's suicideI'm more interested to hear what John Fountain has to say on the matter, since he is someone who worked with Butch closely for many years, and from what I gather they left on pretty ugly terms. It's been well known that Hartman has a massive ego but that's really it, he does seem like someone who genuinely tries to do better for the world but with mixed success.
Which one of you spics banned me and deleted my posts about crossfags?
>>143301914I'm sorry you're too retarded to take in a documentary that answers all of your questions.
>>143301914>>143301995I skipped a little ahead into the video, around the 1 hour mark, and Saber is saying a line I've very frequently seen regurgitated by midwits, "Stephen Silver designed the characters of FOP and Danny Phantom".No, saberretard, he designed some of the Danny Phantom characters, and was a prop designer on Fairly Oddparents.If that's the sort of information this "video" is putting out then I'm pretty sure I have no reason to watch any more of it. Thanks.
>>143297231>Fairly OddParents comments on theodicyHow?
>>143301914I don't think John Fountain seems like the most trustworthy source of information. He's someone that is seething because he isn't getting the sort of royalty payouts that Hartman, Marmel, and Boyle got for their early work in FOP.No shit... he was a storyboarder and an episode director, not one of the fucking creators of the show....I read some of his comments and he actually comes off as a bit deranged. Boyle most definitely didn't do "100% of season 3 and 4", George Goodchild had a major hand in it too. So already he is burying other people that really don't deserve it and doing exactly what he is accusing Butch Hartman of doing, taking credit from others. So I don't really trust this person.
>somebody commissioned Butch to draw the gay prostitute spider from HellI'm sorry, what?
>>143301688What does that guy's post have to do with atheism
It's just easy for them to go full mask off these days, isn't it?
>>143302081Whenever I run into this guy on X threads, I get the impression that he wants internet points, he knows that talking about Butch gets him attention, and now I think he wants to promote his YouTube channel or something.tl:dr he's just a guy complaining about his old boss.
>>143302234Full interview with context.https://www.christianpost.com/news/famous-creator-of-the-fairly-oddparents-embarks-on-mission.html
>>143302021I watched it all and frankly half of the video is Saber sounding like he knows jackshit about how a show is made and complaining about Butch not doing things that... were never going to be his job anyway?It kinda feels like they wanted the video to be three times longer than he actually had content for, so you end up with a lot of dumb shit.It feels like he's trying to pander to the social media hate Butch's name evokes.
>>143302108It's funny that the Christian advocate childrens-show producer drew that. I wondered if he even knew what it was.
I remember a tweet where they put Butch together with John K, Chris Savino and another guy saying they were scum and it's like... Butch is a saint compared to the others. The Internet has a haterboner with the guy, but that won't stop him from still having a job, Nick even called him for the FOP revival.
Where's the Oaxis, Hart-Mansley?
Saberspark literally can’t even take 10 minutes to find interviews or other videos about the people he talks about in his own videos to make sure he’s saying the fucking name of the animator/director/etc the right way (“Oh golly gee, I hope I’m pronouncing their name correctly.” Repeat for 20-30 videos.) , so I don’t trust him to actually get real investigative journalism done accurately.
>Butch wanted to control the narrative about Oaxis by copystriking all videos criticizing Oaxis.For a good Christian, he sure excels at deception.
>>143301377He wasn't upfront and sincere on what Oaxis was exactly going to be beyond "cartoon Netflix" and refused to do refunds when people wanted out of it.
>>143301708you dont know what tracing is.
>>143302281I think he even drew Shadman oc too
>>143295838Some people are just obsessed with others.See: Kiwwifarms for a huge example.
>>143301377It's been 4 years and there has been zero updates.
>>143302571Gaslight me harder, Butchdaddy.
>>143302281A ton of artists are generally clueless as to where the characters they draw commissions of come from.Most of them literally type in their name in an image search, grab a few reference pictures, and then go to town. This is very common in the industry.
Still if the worst thing Butch did was steal credit for scripts, trace a picture, and run a fake crowdfund campaign he is still a hell of a lot cleaner than a lot of the other people that worked for Nickelodeon. Shitty behavior no argument but really there's bigger fish to fry.
>>143302671>Ignore the murderer who killed one person if another murderer killed two people.
>>143302234>>143302249>Kids and teens dying in mass shooting events? Butch, fire up the cartoon makers!You have millions of dollars and all you can do in response to nationwide school shootings is make more cartoons? Fuck you, you incredulous tone-deaf cunt!
>>143302687It's good that there is no murder here.
So there is literally no new dirt about Butch Hartman besides some bitter storyboarder taking vague shots? They are still making videos about Oaxis which kickstarter ended over five fucking years ago!?
>>143302234oh no, how dare he, he doesn't want woke shit brainwashing children. he is literally like putin or hitler or voldemort or baron harkkonen!!!!!!
>>143302671>deflect and pivot to "B-b-b-b-but Schneider!"
>>143302728Crowdfunding fraud. Not just the Christian thing, but absolutely nothing have came out of it and it's been 4 years since any updates. $250,000 mysteriously gone.
>>143302749>fraudSo there will be a legal cause to send him to jail? Why haven't they done so yet?
>>143302765You know what? They should.
>>143302624NTA, but as said earlier, Butch was referencing other artwork, the problem is he was referencing to a T. If you overlay the two pictures, they do not match, ergo not a trace, just a really rushed reference work that didn't bother change much, if at all in the case of the AoT girl commission.
Watched it and I can see how Butch has some dumb ideas like>if someone wants to critique you, you need to ask them if they can do betterI get it's a common defense mechanism but it's incredibly immature and easily untrue.
>>143302749>>143302765I think kickstarters/patreons are legally considered donations. It avoids legal problems with quality disparities between promised/delivered items.
>>143303062>but it's incredibly immature and easily untrue.still true
>>143303090How is it true? You can see two similar cartoons you like and say why you like one more than the other and have critique around that. You not being able to animate better than any doesn't invalidate your criticism or praise. It's weird this needs to be explained here, but people go full retard on this site.
>>143302168You're getting into an area of Christianity where they pretty much view less ardent Christians as atheists.They view the world in two groups>People like me who will go to heaven :)>Everyone else who will die horribly in a bloody cosmic apocalypse :)There's a reason that all the current modern Christian sects we consider cults put such heavy emphasis on Revelation being super close. For reference. This is the "seven heads/seven mountains" quote>This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he does come he must remain only a little while. As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction. (Rev. 17:9–11)It's typically considered one of the more baffling parts of Revelation as seen here.https://www.ligonier.org/learn/articles/seven-kings-revelation-17So what happened? In the 1970s, apparently God went and told 3 famous evangelicals that the seven mountains that belong to the beast who literally destroys the world need to be "conquered" for revelation to start which if you think about it makes no sense since Revelation starts when the beast with Seven heads makes a second beast convince everyone to worship it, plunges the world into eternal darkness, has the big war, then goes down at the very end.So if what they say is true with the Seven Mountains Mandate, it would only make sense if they themselves were the whore riding the beast
One of the worst things about Butch is that he sold his idea of Christian media as a solution to mental health issues and suicide... and then turned around and said his streaming service wouldn't be Christian media, just Christian in that he'd be in charge of it and he's Christian. Not only is this ridiculous, it's detrimental in how it views mental health.
>>143299496>What the fuck is it with Evangelicals and constantly looking for ways to speed up the apocalypse instead of just letting Revelations happen on its own?Not that Anon but probably for the same reasons as those /k/unts:Losers who are bored and angry with how their lives are going and deluding themselves into thinking that they'll be the alphas instead of the bitches that they all are if the "collapse" ever happens.
>>143299148That’s just a transitioning fund for the right.
LS Mark is ITT right now flapping his gums about Butch Hartman. Just wanted to let you guys know that he's the one constantly talking about Butch and his "wrongdoings".
>>143295838>SaberSparkYippie more commie rumor milling, they totally NOT do this for sports.
>>143301780>Be Sabespark>Super religious upbringing>Gives shitty review on Moral Orel because he missed the plot>Muh religion>Bitching about Butch Hartman's religion now lmao
>>143299210The weeb ‘fedora’ was also typically a very low quality trilby hat (often a novelty shop item made of cotton or polyester) that dipshits would think was some sort of swanky noir reference when it was really a casual vacation hat from the 60’s. Trilbys are what a dad might wear while barbecuing in the back yard, not what Mickey Spillane would wear while smooth talking a dame. Weebs took an already cringe-inducing idea and made it worse by completely biffing the details.
>>143295838>SabersparkI used to watch this guy when it was videos about obscure cartoons and such. Then he got popular and started thinking he's smarter than just a guy making videos about cartoons he watched. I've never seen anything from this guy that goes beyond just Googling a bit of stuff about whatever he was watching at the time.
>>143297842Fedoras are what millennial dads consider cool to distract themselves from the fact they're just old and no one takes the seriously
>>143302728The fact that the Kickstarter ended so long ago and there hasn’t been a peep about Oaxis progress seems like it would be an even bigger reason to be critical.
>>143295902Why, because he ran a couple tv programs for as long as they asked him to, and the quality dropped?
>>143295838He's a cartoon fag
>>143304178>The weeb ‘fedora’??
>>143304056This is a th thread about Butch and the wrong things he's done though.
>>143301458>Fuck Butch>Fuck SaberFtfy
>>143302728It didn't claim to have new dirt, people just often ask what's so bad about Butch so he made a video about that. That and even in this thread you have people asking about the seven mountains mandate so people are still learning about him.
The best thing that can be said about Butch is that he isn't that bad. Some people here are still trying to brush this off as people just mad that he's a Christian, but you can be a Christian without doing everything he's done. Part of this isn't a dig at his faith, but his psychology based on interviews where he puts himself above others in that the feeling he gets when he does good is good for him first. Which isn't bad on its own, it just fits a pattern of behavior. All while "wise as a serpent, harmless as a dove" is his mantra. So it's weird, you can draw conclusions about him pushing the idea that the solutions to the world's problems is Christian media control, but it's not explosive, just informative.The number one thing is still how two faced he was in marketing his streaming service kickstarter.
>Thing I like in a Hartman show = Butch had zero involvement>Thing I don't like in a Hartman show = Butch did all of it (Butch personally drew/designed this, wrote that, etc.)Ignore the credits for each.
>>143305981But Butch himself said earlier that writers got credited for stuff that came together in boarding, he's had an issue with getting credit, so the theory is that he used that same system to take credit.
>>143297298Oaxis.It was him lying about what Oaxis was suppose to be that made people mad at him. If he had been upfront about it being a Christian streaming platform, no one would have gotten mad. Instead, he pitched it as though it was going to be an indie animation platform to appeal to a wider audience.
>>143295838>I literally share a board with people who thinks Butch Hartmann did nothing wrong.
>>143299768>>143295838>>143297298>>143297490>>143300670>>143301914>>143302234>>143297276>>143297430>>143301780>>143304141>>143305442Who cares the hell cares about Saber? If anything this thread should be talking about the one who's really been after Hartman since 2018.>Oldest PNGtuber on the site since 2007 who was rarely talked about unlike Mr. Enter and Saber>Found success when he made 13 videos on Hartman's downfall between 2018-2022 in four years>Able to get enough people on the internet to turn against him and find more ways to get more dirt on BH.>Had another user help him out in one of his videos until she eventually left YT due to the cartoon community's toxicity >Noticable gap of videos around the early 2020s>Eventually decides to leave YT all together due low viewership, Cosmodore situation, and mental burnout. Twitter acount remaining absent since 2021 and YT channel abandoned since 2022
>>143307029The AMERICA act is good, though it's not so much against private equity as it is against new money silicone valley tech companies. There's grease in the gears to move in that direction; there's east coast cold money interests that compete with facebook and google. Hawley's act doesn't target Hollywood, just copyrights as last 28 with 28 year renewal accept for companies that make over $150 billion, in which case there is no renewal and they lose rights. It targets Disney, it is just culture war, and no one is walking out of this as critical of economic policy, just spite of Hollywood faggots. If that's the reason behind these moves, then they mostly just stop there in terms of economic policy and the social policy is more overtly anti-gay. A vote for Hawley isn't a vote for measured criticism of the practices of the economic elite and their corporations which enrich themselves to our detriment, it's a vote for finding ways to economically ruin gay companies. The economic correction factor to his policy is nonexistent, cancelled out the obvious motive and circumstance.It's a form of progress to be critical of large companies, they're almost there but too many will be caught up in punishing companies for culture war bullshit than ever supporting real economic reform. This reveals the messaging strategy to pass economic reform as targeted cultural reform through economic policy, something the left can do to control the right and centrists:>kikes and fags seethe when you implement a 90% tax on income for billionaires! Disney on suicide watch!
>>143296002And Stephen Hillenburg.
>>143306714But then to seven mountains people, he said it was a Christian company, and then to the public, after that got out, he said it wasn't for just Christian content, he will control and curate content as a Christian producer. Which then feeds into his "clever as a serpent, harmless as a dove" way of operating which raises question like why should a non-christian trust him, how is his faith going to impact decisions? Who is he lying to?
>>143296002What do you mean? Plenty of people working at Nick didn't work with their live action stuff.
>>143306153Because Repubs don't think ahead for the long term. They keep campaigning on "owning the libs" until it's too late when the shoe goes on the other foot, and then they wonder why their toes are so crooked or why they have persistent foot fungus.
>>143308116And Joe Murray.
>>143297231>Btw, reminder that Danny Phantom is basically a teenage exorcistExcept he outwardly rejected that premise because of Christianity. They're not dead people, just ghostly beings from another dimension.
>thread almost instantly becomes nothing but election tourists seething about da ebul reCHUDlicansChrist I hate election years
>>143296048all Christians suck
>>143301809if you do bad things as a successful Christian like Trump or a child molestor from clergy, that just means you're BASED white man attacked by the libtard satanic mob in the eyes of right-wing Christians. the same ones who are ready to disown any other Christian over political views or different denominations btw.
>>143306962I forgot he existed, also FUCK LS MARK HE'S A FUCKIN RETARD WHO GOT MADE FUN OF BY HIS WIFE'S PARENTS KWAB
>>143309676That's just the FOPfag, though. He seethes everytime somebody investigates or dares to question the authenticity of Dear Leader Butch, then spams various FOP themed threads in the mistaken belief that FOP is still relevant and that he can bury the lead.
>>143302234>>143302249>>143302694Christians think that kids are being forcibly indoctrinated by the woke. In reality, kids willingly leave Christians because they're a group of insufferable abusive assholes who lack self-awareness.Online Christians can't go a single day without harassing gay or brown people on twitter. And they wonder why people prefer to hang out with the chill Satanist/queer artists instead of schizophrenic unlikeable losers who post ugly wojaks while bitching and moaning about communism 24/7.
>>143308225>>143306714They do this because they know that they're unpopular. Really hard to sell a happy-go-lucky image of Christianity when everyone sees how two-faced, unforgiving, and evil Christians are from firsthand experience.
>>143309724It goes beyond being successful, people get retarded defending people when they find out they're vaguely involved with something faith related. Like how during the 2020 election, one of the fake witnesses of election fraud claimed to be a truck driver who was told to deliver boxes of fake ballots. This turned out to be untrue, and also reporting on this included the fact that he was a ghost hunter youtuber who had a video of a "shadow person" jumping out at him from under basement stairs. It was clearly a guy in a black full bodysuit. The media pointing that out prompted the "they hate him because of his faith" crowd who wanted to believe him.People often don't engage with specifics and assume someone is just "cancelled" for something surface level and harmless.
>>143305981This one will never not be funny to me>furfags getting mad at butch for "designing" this character when in reality, she was designed by who was probably the worst layout artist on the show>furfags all trying to redesign her and they all look like shit and are probably even worse than the originalAnti butch fags are delusional. I'm not going to act like butch himself hasn't done some skeevy shit but that logic you described is literally how they work. It's amazing
>>143309912There's multiple reasons, one of them really is what Butch tried to tap into: Christians networking to selectively elevate each other. Frats and groups like that already do it, the Christian version of that comes with a layer of virtue and deniability that makes it so that it's not so much that you're looking to personally enrich yourself, you're actually doing it to save the country, to save souls.
>>143297340Getting a blowjob from Guy
>>143302108>>143302281>>143302576
>>143309820>drops a completely true truth bomb about why kids leave christianity because of how schizophrenic americans have become in regards to their faith>also claims satanists and queers are "chill", implying they don't do equally retarded reactionary shit as wellI don't get you, anon
>>143300670WTF, that sounds like Handmaid's Tale shit, but without the rape, but there will probably be rape.
>>143297414SaberSpark, the faggot used to be friends with her during the Brony days but when the Palestine controversy happen, he stopped following her and called her out when she tweeted a AI pic
>>143310041Name the Christian equivalent of Hazbin Hotel and Castlevania. The most I see are wojaks and them constantly reposting porn to feign shock lolSatanist and queers are mean, but they constantly pump out cool art. Before you post material from dead people as counterevidence, modern Christians are lame whiny assholes who do nothing but feign outrage at "degenerate" porn that they saved on their phones. Hilarious that they accuse everyone of being porn addicts as well.
>>143306962I miss PieguyHis Schneider's Bakery stuff was great
>>143306962Didn't he left youtube after trying to do the same thing to some spongebob writers bur was called out cause of it
>>143310234>the Christian equivalent of Hazbin HotelIf only they had the talent to pull that one off.
>>143310209Are you really bitching over a guy choosing to support human rights over worshipping a celebrity that does not even knows him?If she was his actual friend, if she used to consistently chat with him or helped him at some point you would make sense but what you are saying is just ridiculous.
>>143310362You imply it takes talent to make something like Hazbin to begin with
>>143310234>Name the Christian equivalent of Hazbin Hotel and CastlevaniaThe Christian equivalent of cringe? There's plenty of that
>>143310234>Name the Christian equivalent of Hazbin Hotel and Castlevania.Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost.
>>143310548>>143310556>>143310575>butthurt so much that he had to reply three timeslemao
>>143310643I replied what the other anon just replied but my post was clearly a joke rather than trying to argue with you.
>>143309655Because an artist has never gotten confused about his own work? >>143309975I would never interact with a penis.>>143309820>Chill They're constantly talking about violence and mental illness
>>143310811>Because an artist has never gotten confused about his own work?Whether or not I believe that or am willing to give him that excuse (I don't), doesn't change the fact that the he's the best authority on what his intentions were.
>>143310881I don't see this kind of hardline stance muchYou have two different versions of the creator's intentions, one before the retcon and one after
he's made some dogshit decisions regarding his shows and his religious shit is whatever but butch derangement syndrome is real
>>143302239seems like one of those "out of the field and ready to burn bridges for clout/old grudges/sometimes valid reasons"on the one hand I do appreciate looks behind the scenes like he can give because animation is otherwise an extremely hugbox-y field but like others mentioned his info is suspect and he seems to be going into business for himself
>>143311272I couldn't care less about the religious stuff. What I and everyone should care most about is that he raised $250,000 and has absolutely nothing to show for it.
>>143302728This is sorta the other side of the coin. "Muh childhood" creators get it a lot harder when they have dirt dug up for the simple fact that their cancellation sullied "muh childhood" for Twittards cancelling them
>>143311272Keep your name on, guy.
>>143310234>Name the Christian equivalent of Hazbin Hotel and Castlevania.>Before you post material from dead people as counterevidenceShit "gotcha" argument.>Modern Christians are-I don't want to hear about mentally ill "Christian nationalist" poser fags on Twitter. Those faggots are no different from trannies and "progressives".
>>143309546A lot of "lib owning" people are from more libertarian leaning centrists who see libs as an overarching nanny power at ends with their apolitical sensibilities. To them, fascists suck but they aren't as immediately present as feminists giving perspectives on games in 2013. For many that was their political awakening and to focus on that as the enemy and to invalidate focus in other places, they had to ignore and shrug off everything they'd normally see as bad on the right.Steven Universe being mainstream helped them feel like they're the oppressed one while the Supreme Court was stacked by conservatives. Real funny.
>>143304680??
>>143306153>BlackRock and Vanguardkys
>>143311788send 70 more emails you bitch. I haven't gotten one yet. You're slacking.
>>143311788Can someone rangeban this worthless mentally ill cunt already? I'm tired of him shitting up every thread he goes into with nonsense and threats he never actually acts on.
>>143295838Saberspark? He likes kids.
>>143313562Whoever did that, thank you.
>>143310234My webcomic>>143313562You sound frustrated, maybe you should pay for some cool cartoons and watch them
The rundown of butch’s early career was pretty neat but the rest of the video is just regurgitating everything we’ve already heard. All the classics are there: the suicide remark, the critics are unqualified remark, the tracing scandals, oaxis, Kero, it’s literally all the same shit.
>>143313898Why did you leave out the Seven Mountains and the "clever as a serpent, harmless as a dove" bit? Who else talks about that?
>>143306962Scumbob
>>143302021>"Stephen Silver designed the characters of FOPWhy do these rantsona faggots do this?Ok, you have amble dirt on Butch... though most of it is retreading shit that other rantsonas already made a thousand videos about several years ago... why do you have to flat out make up shit to discredit the man's overall achievements? Moreso, its plastering over other people (like Bob Boyle or George Goodchild) who actually are responsible? This video was very poorly researched, but eh, I don't think Butchbible is being cancelled for anything related to what he actually does in cartoons, so...
>>143295838Cuz lotsa people grew up with fairly odd parents and danny phantom and it's fun to dab on the creator for having failed projects. That's it really.
>muh residuals
>>143304056I thought LS Mark was a Butch butt-boy, though.
>>143313843Great ban evasion dipshit.
>>143297231>his work was always explicitly ChristianNeither of those shows was ever explicitly Christian. Do you know what "explicitly" means?
>>143309820>Online Christians can't go a single day without harassing gay or brown people on twitterReddit is this way
>>143309912>everyone sees how two-faced, unforgiving, and evil Christians are from firsthand experiencesee>>143316825
>>143310041>also claims satanists and queers are "chill", implying they don't do equally retarded reactionary shit as wellare you having a stroke anon ?
>>143306738Blame Hartman's detractors being insufferable twats who only care about his sins because he's an evangelical tard. Hartman is bad but his enemies are obsessed to the point contrarianism is justified.
>>143309820Redditors are worse than young creationists
>>143306738>shareOh, no no no, my sweet summer child. You can't share something that was never yours to begin with.
>>143302239>>143311315At the very least, John Fountain worked with Butch Hartman for at least several years. That's better than, say, Nico Colaleo meeting him at a dinner once and shitting on him for something he said in order to win internet clout points. Fountain at the very least feels entitled to early FOP's success, but yeah, it seems a little equally selfish on his part. And honestly, having gone over most of the most of the FOP's early scripts myself (they used to be available readily on Fred Seibert's website, not sure if they are still are), there are maybe a handful of episodes that seem like Butch Hartman shoe horned his name into the credits, and most of them seem to be ones directed by him and Wincat Alcala. In fact, FOP tended to be VERY generous with how many people got a credit in the title card, so I'm not sure where that bitching is coming from.
>>143295838It's just a bunch of pointless Sabre Rattling
>>143302739Quick! We need to call the avengers!!!!
>>143316575Imagine if you were capable of participating in the conversation instead of just raging like a spoiled child To be fair, that's the target audience for LS mark >>143316803Redditor I explained it in my comment, you're not even reading
>>143299622Female Ranma a cute
>>143295838>>143301914Butch Hartman's dicksuckers are just as bad as his haters, fuckers like LS Mark are the worst, not only is he a Butch Hartman autist who tries to imitate his FOP art style and uses a FOP OC as his avatar...but he's also a hardcore Sonic autist who has a separated channel where he uploads Sonic stuff
>>143300232Seth in the Blue and white
>>143317725Based
>video about NFTs>somehow devolves into ranting about AI art AGAINI feel like he can't go one single video without ranting about AI art in some way, no matter how unrelated the subject is
>>143299695It's real, guy fucked his underage niece.
>>143300670Butch Hartman follows GOP speaker of the house Mike Johnson, further solidifying Butch's connection to Seven Mountains dominionism.
>>143318051Boil you're going to be punished for this
>>143295838Hes wearing a fedora in his pic
>>143318416Based
>>143319309Based, but he's still a liar. "Clever as a serpent, harmless as a dove" while he pretends to be both "children's media is making them suicidal, we need God in media to save them" to one group and "my content is secular, don't worry about it" to the other, he's lying to one group.If any leftwing media person was doing things like this, the activism and the overt references subversion as well as participating in a network that has cultural subversion in their mission statement, there would be more of a reaction.
>>143299622The best kept secret in the cartoon community is that Butch Hartman is a better artist than most of the taking head rantsonas when he locks tf in. His caricatures are actually pretty decent.
>>143319779He’s also not too shabby at water colors either. Butch’s problem is that while he is an artist, he also sees it like a business and treats it like a job. So when he was doing comms he was probably trying to KO as much as possible and decided to trace a portion of the Ranma art and reference the first Mikasa piece he could find to get the job done faster. It’s a mindset pretty common in comics but really inappropriate in commissioning unless the ref and instructions were provided to do so.
