What do you think about 52 blocks? It's a fighting style made by joggers in prison.
It's got cultural value in terms of African-Americans in the same way say Wing Chun or Aikido do for Chinese and Japanese people.But like those styles it would bring nothing to the table in terms of real fighting ability compared to modern combat sports like MMA, kickboxing, submission wrestling, Muay Thai, or BJJ.So yeah if you're a black American absolutely learn it as part of your unique cultural heritage but it ain't gonna be any use in an actual fight compared with basic boxing or wrestling skills.
>>8589352 blocks is a myth. Black American contribution to martial art techniques are primarily within the sport of boxing and probably wrestling too considering how many do it. But there's never been any genuine evidence for 52 blocks.
the basic blocking system for the 52 works, it's just like any other defense though you have to practice it
Yeah i think black kwon do is pretty cool
Wing chun for new york black guys. I like it. Probably bad in a real fight but it's kind of cool. I think the mythology about Mother Dear and being invented in prisons is just that though, myth. Looks like kung fu mixed with dirty boxing mixed with some old fashioned bullshit. Probably in the 70s and 80s when kung fu was ascendant in america.
It's a myth/urban legend that doesn't actually exist as often described.
>>85893niggers are violent people so I guess they can teach you how to be violent. So yes, it's legit.
>>86022Mother Dear was very fucking real. That motherfucker was turning guys out like it was his job. It took a gang of dudes to jump him and throw him off the tier.
>>85893Intercepting punches with your hard, pointy elbows is a principle of both boxing and muay thai. It's nothing new.
Urban legend. It was created during they heyday of kung fu movies because niggers like easterns and wanted some kung fu of their own.The little 52 Blocks that actually exists is just dirty boxing that has been around for possibly hundreds of years. For actual fighting, there is more value in 19th century pugilism.
>>85893Has it actually stopped anybody from getting raped or brained in prison?
>>85893Didn't know Redman taught martial arts. Is it the Wu Tang influence?
>>88490That's Lyte Burly, he is apparently a 52 Blocks trainer from New York City. He has a whole Youtube channel with some... interesting training methods.
>>86786I'll need some real evidence before I start believing in mother dear.
seems like bullshit but i wish it were real because elbow/shoulder blocks are really cool and useful
>>8597199% of boxing coaches were white until recently.
>>85893more like 52 cocks. taking all that dick in prison, you gotta make something up to cope.
>>88770it is real and it's in boxing
>>87265>there is more value in 19th century pugilism.honestly id argue this for every single martial artpugilism is in the same ball park as muay thai and was essentially its own version of mma, mix it with catch and you will have a system that would be identical to modern mma with bareknuckle applications as well.
saving from page 11
>>88728I know Reggie when I see him.
>>88767Oh look...yer want of those reeetard that begs for burden of evidence 4 sumthin dat transcends the confinement and girdle of the world even when das sheit stare right str8 on yo ass..
>>86786Das rite!!! stay woke niggaahh!!!!!! Xe always visit me in my cell makin cookiez and sheit.Muh ass hurt after dat tho.Y das be?
it works, you just have to sus out a little bullshit, but Lyte Burly is the truth!!!! He spits on the real yah heard. 11111111111
>>85893It's a joke>>86793>>88805Yeah if only they knew how to box lmao
>>85893By itself its worthless, you need actual training in boxing/striking to mix with it and make it workDustin Poirier uses the blocking methods and Max Holloway (arguably one of the best boxers in the ufc) complained about it to his cornerYoel Romero used it against Whitaker tooIf you train to catch jabs and crosses with your elbows you absolutely can, but you need to do that on a boxing class since there is no one who teaches 52 blocks who can fight
>>85893>What do you think about 52 blocks?>tyson trained 52 blocks
>>85893>>97053As other anons mentioned all the elbow block stuff is taken from boxing already. 52 blocks is like a bunch of guys that focused on advanced moves in boxing that they though looked cool but had shit fundamentals. If it didn't have the label of being an original African American martial arts people would just call it shitty boxing
>>85893It's an art more recent than it claims to be with a completely fictional lineage.
>>97055Meaning that Tyson learned some dirty boxing tricks from older kids in juvie maybe.
>>87265>The little 52 Blocks that actually exists is just dirty boxing that has been around for possibly hundreds of years.For example, blocking punches with the point of the elbow as seen in OP's pic is shown in Donald Walker's "Defensive Exercises" from 1840.
>>88784yeah, and they trained a lot of blacks too, who will have invented some techniques
>>85893Prisons arent like in the movies, you spend 1 hour a day interacting with other prisoners TOPS. Yards are done with only your block, fights are 99.99% opertunistic and not fair in any way, MAYBE one fight happens a week, MAYBE one guy dies a year. No one wants to extend their sentence, no one wants to add murder to a Break-in sentence, the only people that are willing to murder and fight in prison are lifers and they're separated from gen pop. your cell mates are usually like minded individuals, the people on your lunch cycle want to eat and dont have time to talk to their friends let alone start shit with you. If you've taken any sort of martial arts training you can fuck up 99% of ex cons, ignore everything they say and understand they've been in MAYBE 1-2 fights total, and thats if they're the violent angry types. The huge majority of prison time is spent in lockup or just killing time. No one wants to be there, no one wants to stick out, everyone is just trying to get out on parole early. The food is shit, the beds are shit, the showers are cold.
>>101611there isn't a universal prison experience (besides it being shit) and what you described isn't even typical of most medium security prisons in the US.
>>88770My only streetfight ended because the lad (who sucked badly at fighting and was a twig DYEL) got his punch stopped by an elbow and fucked up is hand badly.I got that from silat but I mean is a pretty universal principle if your naked hand strikes hard an elbow chances are your hand is gonna get fucked
>>101611>Prisons arent like in the movies, you spend 1 hour a day interacting with other prisoners TOPS.I have to wonder where you got this information from. I've been visiting my uncle in prison for years and that is 100% wrong.
>>101985No he is not 100% wrong, but he is making a blanket statement that does not apply to every correctional facility. What he's describing sounds like federal prisons, supermax type shit, for legit criminals that pose a greater threat than your average thug. Usually reserved for national security threats, things like confirmed members of organized crime syndicates. But I imagine your uncle is in a local lockup. Like a county or state prison. They're more relaxed when it comes to inmate interactions, they'll still have violent offenders & gang members, but they are chumps compared to supermax. They're terrors to their neighborhoods and that's about it, so they don't care if they have the freedom to converse & congregate.
>>97055Tyson biggest boxing influence was Dempsey and it's not even close.52 Blocks is urban legend/guys that can scrap a little tryna come out. It's not a real thing