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Keep strictly real steel gun related laws and politics to >>>/k/ and >>>/pol/. Leave the gun and gear porn.

If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.

>Updated Newbie pastebin
https://pastebin.com/Qy01C4Ta

>/asg/ retailer guide
http://pastebin.com/YHNFKKt6

>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airs

Last Thread >>74157
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>>77591
Thread question:
What’s your opinion on sidearms in airsoft? Worth the money? Useless?
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>>77592
I personally feel that airsoft pistols are useless because everything it does your rifle can do better; your rifle shoots further, holds more ammo, shoots full auto, and probably doesn’t require green gas or co2. Alongside that you need to carry a holster and a sling for your rifle so you can carry both of them when playing.
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>>77592
only really need a sidearm if your primary is a sniper, or anything with a large minimum engagement distance

>>77595
While this is true, I feel better having one on me, just in case I don't have the time to reload in tense situations.
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>>77595
The point of sidearms is that they're backup weapons in case your primary fails. In airsoft, they also serve as CQB weapons where MED and FPS limits are in play.

I've had primaries fail, and being able to still take the shot is useful instead of sitting there troubleshooting why it didn't shoot.

That said, I don't like carrying gas around. And I risk leaks because my mags are old. I'm using an AEP because it's cheap and the mags aren't $40 each.
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Does anyone know if anyone makes a rail or keymod mounted compass? Either a flat or ball compass? Would like to have one hard mounted, but google doesn't seem to understand the question.
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>>77597
Oh, I forgot the other airsoft reason for pistols. LARP LARP LOL.

>>77598
Just glue a compass to a rail adapter.
Or if you absolutely need a consumer product, this has a compass built in: https://tachyonelectronics.com/
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>>77592
Having just played in a casual sort of milsim event a couple of days ago, I can safely say this much: sidearms may just reside in your holster most of the time, but in the right situations (such as if your primary goes down on the spot for reasons unknown, you have no more mags for your primary, or your primary is too unwieldy for the given situation) it can be a godsend to switch to in order to keep yourself in the fight - for instance, being pinned down in a narrow corridor to hold a stairwell while my 14.5" M4 is both really unwieldy to use from that angle and actively running out of battery made having a sidearm extremely useful for holding that tight corner, even if I ultimately got my shit rocked in the end because the sun had fully set and the opposing team had at least triple the NODs my team did
In short, it's probably not going to be used most of the time if your primary is reliable, and if you're only just getting into the sport they shouldn't be a top priority, but it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it, imo. Also, they're just fun in general, can look pretty nice along with the practical backup purpose, and for typical CQB games they can shine as an interesting alternative to a rifle platform; though at that point, I think they've gone into de-facto primary status

TL;DR they're meant to be backups for a reason, I think they're useful to have on you if the situation ends up leaning towards your primary no longer being ideal, and they're probably worth carrying if you have one that works, but they aren't absolutely necessary to get if you're just getting into the sport for the first time; regardless of any of this, they're just fun to use from time to time and in some cases can really complete the look of certain kits
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>>77599
>Just glue a compass to a rail adapter.

I thought about doing this, but I was hoping to find something manufactured first.
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>>77592
Almost. Occasions where it would be more expedient to draw a sidearm than reloading a primary are pretty rare, but they do happen, especially the closer you are to your opponent. I mostly go without a secondary now, as the encumbrance didn't justify the use.
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>>77598
There seem to be compass/spirit levels attached to ring scopes, but I can't find any compass specific mounts. It seems like a wrist mounted compass would probably be better for checking bearing quickly.
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>ak comes with railed dust cover
>still has the sidemount for russian optics

Stop. Removing it and nigger rigging rivets a is pain in the ass.
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>>77592
Depends. Here in my country engagement with rifles is from 6 meters and beyond, so if you get close in for example domination or CTF, you might need a sidearm.
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>>77609
I just think its odd that nothing like that exists, when you consider all the shit that is available for attachment.
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>>77592
played my first event recently with a shotgun and I can see why people would carry one because a lot of times I found the shotgun to be unwieldy and started having issues getting my shells out of the gun.
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>>77592
I like them because my local fields all have FPS rules for their shoot houses and I hate running weak rifles. So running through with a side arm is preferable to trying to shoot someone 50 get away with BBs moving so slow that they can be easily dodged
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Does anyone here own a copy of the rangers handbook? I've seen quite a few people recommend it. Was wondering if anyone here has actually read it.
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>>77672
Yeah, not too much relevant to airsoft though. It does have a very nice survival section and stuff on navigation though.
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>>77592
A decent quality one is great fun to run during games. I've tagged tons of people with my TM Px4.
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>>77672
I have the 2017 edition, it has guides for proper room clearing procedures and best formations for given situations. Pretty useful for larger events, I'd say get a copy, since they're cheap, and its kind of a cheat sheet for a broad range of different situations and topics.
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>>77614
Based retard!
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Whats the reason for bubble levels built into scopes / scope mounts? I've seen a few of them, I don't understand how they could help.
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>>77703
How is that based?
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Anyone can recommend some good brands that have quick spring change? There's one field near me that has a pretty low joule limit, and they only do games once a month, so i would like a gun i can field on it + use it on normal fields where there is a higher joule limit without having to take the whole thing apart to switch the spring
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>>77721
well what fucking type of gun do you want? Some make good M4's and dogshit ak's and vice versa.
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>>77722
I've been wanting a SCAR for a while, or the CYMA Platinum MP5 models, but i haven't found any of those with a quick spring system. An M4 is fine as well since i don't have one of those
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>>77595
>and probably doesn’t require green gas
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>>77710
In precision shooting cant angle of the rifle can make a difference
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>>77595
a bottle of green gas is like 15 bucks my guy, and lasts about two months give or take, depending on your guns and how often you use them. If you're hurting over 15 bucks, you're in the wrong hobby.
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>>77595
>>77759
Even better, you can get a propane adapter and propane canisters for way cheaper and just manually lube your seals once a season with silicone oil; 3x1kg of Coleman propane cost me like $20CAD at Canadian Tire, and I still haven't run out
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I love GBBRs lads

It's the closest I'll get to owning any cool guns
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>>77764
bri'ish?
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>>77771
yeah...
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>>77761
do you know if propane runs hotter than green gas, my pistol is right at the 350 mark for my field on green gas.
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>>77775
Pretty sure green gas is literally just propane with silicone oil added to it, so it should be about the same AFAIK
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Are there any good rubber or foam bayonets?
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>>77789
Cold steel makes a really solid M9 bayonet, as well as many other rubber training knives.
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>>77721
You're going to get multiple guns anyway, so just get two guns.

Bonus: the slow one is your backup when your primary breaks down during gameday.
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>>77714
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>>77825
Yea fair enough I’ll do that I guess. Anyone here have a CYMA Platinum MP5? They are in the joule range and are reasonably priced
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>>77591
I have an M4 carbine (Poseidon Punisher), a PDW (King Arms' MCX ripoff that takes MP5 mags), a 1911, a Glock 19 and a GBB Mini-Uzi. What should I get next?
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Is there a G3 out there's that's affordable and not a shitty JG one, same goes for AUG
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>>77866
Something good
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>>77868
No
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>>77868
The JG ones are fine. I own two and they run fine with very little work. Find a Classic Army if you really need a metal body and don't want to spend money on an LCT.
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>>77853
Yeah I've just got a CM.041G. Only skirmished once so far, but I'm impressed. Decent build quality, Crono'd on site at 280~ with 0.28s.
Outperformed my old Star l85, though that's a 15 year old gun that was out of service for a decade, so hardly surprising.

The Cyma had great range, good enough accuracy.
One issue though - the hop wouldn't stay set and kept sliding to off when a couple of rounds were fired through. I'm sure this could be easily resolved by tightening or shimming the screw that holds the adjuster, however I simply bodged it by taping the adjuster in place, held up just fine.
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Thinking about getting a Cybergun p90 do you guys have any guides on switching the spring out? Literally cannot find anything online and my CQB field only allows 300 fps measured with .25
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>>77868
Classic army is the only metal one and they are exclusively bought from Germoney so good luck. And as far as I know LCT one still has fucked up midcaps.
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>>77918
I assume it's a version 6 gearbox like every other P90 (except Krytac lol lol), so any version 6 gearbox guide on the youtube should work.
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Thoughts on double bell?
Also do you guys know any promo codes for taiwangun?
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>>77909
What compels a man to choose the L85
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>>77958
It isn't an M4
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>>77958
I'm a bong, and when I was a kid I shot the real steel cadet version. Loved it, and this brings back fond memories.
As an airsoft primary though, it's a weighty bitch, and being Star, it's had it's share of internal issues.
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I think its fun running cheap trash guns and wrecking house. Cause the kids who buy the 1000$ guns think money buys skill. Its fun watching them rage.
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>>78097
This doesn't happen to you
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>>78097
Sounds like cope. Cheap guns are shit unless you tweak them yourself
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>>77960
>>77965
They still suck ass

source: am also british
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>>77909
Hello fellow g26a user
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>>77775
It is the same. Shouldn't change anything
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>>78097
I love using shotguns for that. Super cheap and great for close range.

Mind you, you will get your ass handed to you at medium/long range
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gonna order a pink cybergun p90 next week and deck it out with kirby stickers/charms
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>>78321
You'll be kicking punks to the kirb with that thing
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>>78326
kirbP90
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>>78321
nah dude get this https://youtu.be/vzJPopKXtjM
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>>78321
Don't forget the bayonet.
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That entire weekend was complete horseshit.
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>>78403
and now you dont get to play this weekend either so get fucked
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Decided to get an AEP. I like gas/co2 pistols but too many issues with stability. Or I’m just unlucky idk. Hopefully this works better as a sidearm
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>>78411
>not a Tokyo Marui AEP
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>>78433
bruh im not paying insain amount of money for a pistol i'm only gonna use at close range. where i'm too close to shoot with my primary. cyma aep does a very good job for what i need it
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Is it true that airsoft players who only use handguns are more badass and respected than those who don’t?
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>>78468
No one holds speedsofters with any high regard. Especially other speed softers
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>>78468
No

Only airsofters who can actually hit a target, without spraying a door for an entire minute before hand are respected.
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>>78439
>laughs in superior Japanese plastic folded 1000 times
Okay poorfag.
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>>78468
I thought about buying a GBB pistol as my first airsoft gun but went with an AEG M4. Now have 3 AEGs and 2 GBBRs. I still think it's fun to play with pistols but never ran them as a primary. Would like to pick up either a TM or a WE Desert Eagle next year to try to run it as a primary.
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Bros... When will we be able to buy a Groza? I can't hold on much longer. At this rate I'll just cope with an L85.
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I have an original KWA M93 if anyone is interested in buying. It's missing the folding vertical grip but you could fabricate one pretty easily with a break, bandsaw, and piece of aluminum stock
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>>78484
Nah, this is also false. The only airsofters who are respected are the ones who don't act like retards, spazzes or speds on and off the field. No one actually gives a shit about your ability
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>>78433
what kind of retard would go form Marui when cyma ones come with lipo and mosfet out of the box?
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>>78781
You run the marui stock until its worn, then upgrade everything
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Anyone else got something nice for christmas
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>>77592
>>77595
using pistols is cool, simple as
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>>78786
Or just buy a decent cyma for 70€ and upgrade it with the nonexistent parts
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>>78796
got a blue alpha gear belt, both for real steal and airsoft. it is very comfy can't wait to set some stuff on it
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What the fuck is going on with gbbr supplies. Everything is out of stock.
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Love gbbrs but I ain’t stupid enough to use it in the field. I like it more on my wall.
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>>78808
Real chads run the CQB map with nothing but a glock.
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>>78839
Fake news. Chads don't play airsoft. We're all betafags.
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>>78834
"material shortages"
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>>78836
Git gud
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>>78796
Nice, I've had a Cyma 040C for close to 9 years, it's been an absolute tank.
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>>78858
>taking $$$$ worth of gun in the field full of dickhead larpers

yea nah
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Poorfag here. I have 200 from wifu from Xmas. Too scared to buy airsoft weapon because I don't want to choose wrong one. Feelsbadman
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>>78886
I think you'll manage just fine. If there's a actual shop nearby go there and hold the guns, see how they handle and point,
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>>78781
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>>78908
They all handle the same unless you get a spacegun. In which case, it'll feel like a spacegun, which is why you chose it in the first place.
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>>78886
Buy a CYMA vfc clone and you’ll be fine. They shoot very well out of the box and do not break like other brands
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>>78781
Marui was the shit back in the day. they offered platforms that no other company would offer.
now its just shit. companies got better and US laws are different that Japan laws. with that being said. they suck, because thats how the laws are in Japan.
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>>78979
Marui is optimized for Japan, the only market they really care about. The joule cap is pretty damn low (maximum 0.98 joule) so they can't just shove super strong springs in to compensate for shitty builds like the chinks. Their new MP5 performs pretty damn good but it's not cheap.
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>>78979
>>78983
Outside of Japan you pay an approx 25% premium on their stuff, so they're expensive for what they are. A lot of the hype they get is just from the price they command overseas, but their intended price point is considerably lower. They're still decent performers and their QC is second to none.
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>>77591
Would it be an idea to have field recommendations in a pastebin in the OP? Could help some new people finding a good field in their respective country/state
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>>78984
>Outside of Japan you pay an approx 25% premium on their stuff
I keep forgetting it's that bad. Here it's a little more expensive than chinkshit but not by a lot.
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>>78983
i wanna say in Japan the FPS limit that they can legally sale, and own is 300 FPS or less.
with that being said they dont require stronger more durable parts in their guns. hence why its their own hinderance to the broader market.
ever since KWA introduced the 2GX gearbox the Version 2 gearbox could finally withstand a lipo. before that, it was prone to cracking.
imagine the smell of burning plastic in your precious 500 dollar marui meanwhile my 150 dollar G&G combat machine go brrrrrrr.
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>all this Maruilet jUsT aS gOoD cope
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yall have any intentionally dumb loadouts that are surprisingly effective?
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>>78993
Co2 GBB Micro Uzi with suspenders (that have mag pouches sewn on)and a tank top under a Hawaiian shirt after 2 beers and a shot of grain alcohol. I Only wear it for CQB but I normally do well
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>>77592
Honestly with the right group of guys, agreeing on a pistols only battle with only one clip is really fucking fun. You have to manually load your clip every time it empties. Creates a lot of dramatic moments. Gotta count your shots, and you have to get waaay closer to get a good shot.
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>>79013
>clip
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>>78988
I run lipo in all my Marui guns (it's just that they're only 7.4V)
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>>78132
'Sup!

How do you find yours? Mine's pretty ancient now, fires ok, but feels kinda "flubby".
I should really tear it down, give it a good clean and proper lube.
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>>79079
feels fine, I bought it 7ish years ago, cleaned it at most few times over the years, it runs better than new chinkguns
IT JUST WERKS™
you can post as much jUsT aS gOoD cope as you want, but you just show me the gas gun that has recieved so little maintenece over the years and still performs
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>>79105
My WE Glock 17 has been going strong since 2013 with similar levels of maintenance and no change in internal parts. Although I accept WE's Glock is almost an anomaly in their line up, where as most TM GBBs are workhorses.
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>>79146
It's a copy of the TM. Really makes ya think
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>>79148
>copy of the TM
A lot of things in airsoft are. Nevertheless, TM is no longer the only manufacturer that are producing decent gear.
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>>79148
Not an exact one, WE has its own standard when it comes to some of the internals.
TM also has another advantage - being plastic it is more resistant to low temperatures. If its not to cold to play, it will shoot at least a mag on one filling of gas, while others go pssst after first or few shots.
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Me and my bro got two of these the other day. His shoots great mine shoots like dogshit. I am taking it back to the store. I have been blessed opportunity to buy a better one, any suggestion? Or feel free to just laugh at me for buying this
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>>79171
>forgot the pic
Valken asl mod l something or other
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>>79172
Was shooting about a foot And a half to the left consistently with small grouping from 10 yards away. My bro’s shoots straight for 30 yards atleast. I used the same bbs And battery The only variable was the guns
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>>79172
>fucking Valken
>this gun is shit, guise.
Yeah, maybe buy something from a reputable brand
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>>79175
Yeah lol that’s what I am doing. I was lucky to have one that was this bad now I am taking it back. Now spoonfeed me other brands and suggestions
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>>79176
Krytac, Cyma, G&G are all pretty reliable and normally worth what you're paying
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>>79179
Thank you for the spoon feeding this helps. If those are available there I will get them.
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>>79172
Change hop up bucking and that little thingie that pushes on it. Stock hop up bushings are trash anyway.
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>>79183
You shouldn’t mess with a gun that’s broken out of the box. Just return it
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>>78993
I've been CQBing with an M1 carbine
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Big Boss
Naked Snake
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>>79179
>>79176
my friend got the cheapest possible cyma (CM028 for $99) and two years later it still runs like a dream. everyone's cyma always seem to have problems with the selector switch coming loose and having to tighten it, but that could be solved with a bit of loctite
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>>79172
That's not AS Val Mod III.
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Post rare/discontinued gun collections
Here's my meager offerings, hoping to get a PM63 included in it during the last quarter of 2022
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>>79249
I like the Galil, but won't buy one as I'm just not fond of the Hebrews.
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>>79234
Yeah, Cymas are like Toyota off-roaders, they have loose tolerances and will run forever with few problems. They rarely have the latest technology, but what they do have is reliable
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>>79234
Had an ancient TM MP5J that once the og selector switch broke off, all the clone selector switches would only hold on for like 2 game days. Kinda miss that reliable/accurate/weak smg, should have just put a new gearbox in and kept it.
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>>79249
>tfw no halo AR
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>>79270
Oi vey, you have to buy a galil, a desert eagle and a tavor or you'll get reported for antisemitism
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>>79356
Desert Eagle gets a pass, it's an American pistol. The Jericho seems more Israeli.
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>>79365
Spoiler alert: there's actually no white in the camo pattern.
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I have 2 1911s green gas and co2 both great if you don't have to use them. However you do need a sidearm just in case ya M4 goes belly up. I am a Scrooge I don't pay more than £250 for any Airsoft weapon
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>>77591

What's a good CO2 (semi) handgun to practice marksmanship with? Criteria - reliable and accurate, e.g. not Crossman.

Ideally a CZ P-01 form factor. I apologize if CO2 isn't "airsoft" - I hail from /k/.
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>>79374
Look for airguns, not airsoft. Airsoft guns are inherently less accurate than you think and will not be suitable for marksmanship practice.
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>>78993
Cqb fps s&t k98. Because the gun doesn't make an hpa or aeg noise when firing it works almost like a real world suppressed rifle, people mistake the sound for something else, letting me clear parts of the fields mout area without the other team raising too much alarm.
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>>79453
>s&t
What's the build quality like?
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>>79378
yeah, airsoft is only accurate out to MAYBE 30 feet outside of crazy expensive HPA builds or gas guns in perfect weather. They can be good for manual of arms, in some cases but thats a stretch more often than not
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>>79493
Dogshit like everything they do.
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Why isn't empty mag detection a standard feature? Couldn't they just use eyes like paintball?
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>>79551
Too niche. If people wanted it, the existing mag detection systems would be selling like hotcakes. Also makes little sense when many people prefer hi-caps holding 400+ rounds.
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>>79535
>yeah, airsoft is only accurate out to MAYBE 30 feet
Even a stock CYMA will put BBs on a dinner plate at twice that range with .28s. Come on.
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>>79582
He's asking about pistols
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I got memed into buying a NGRS, ask me anything
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>>79553
What kind of fucking retard prefers hicaps?
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>>79591
Literally why? Know a guy who sank like 1.6k in one with upgrades. Could have bought a Viper tech for that money. Like FUCKING IMAGINE buying a weeb hypebeast ELECTRIC blowback potmetal M4 for the price of a Viper tech.
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>>79608
Because I'm a retard and was really into the idea of stop on empty and the shot feedback
I didn't quite grasp how expensive it'd be to mod to proper velocities
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>>79607
The kind that aren't larplords.
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>>79453
>Cqb fps s&t k98
Did you play CQB with it? I know a guy who put a tracer on his and did the same thing but I can't imagine trying to navigate narrow spaces with that thing. I've had similar experiences outdoors with my Tanaka Kar98K though. As you said most people are used to react to the sound of someone firing so you can sometimes fire three or four times before they realize someone's there.
>>79610
>he actually runs around with maracas in his gun
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>>79611
>he literally plays like this
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>>79591
If you want direction on buying NGRS go to /pol/
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>>79611
>>he actually runs around with maracas in his gun
Yea i don't understand that either. I used hi-caps for my first game cause i didn't know any better, i was even that retarded that i ran with 3 hi caps in my chest rig as well. When i got home i immediately ordered mid caps and haven't looked back.
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>>79617
what
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>>79619
read NGRS one more time as a polfag
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>>79620
Yeah I got that it just wasn't a very good joke and I figured I was missing a layer
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>>79617
Heh
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>>79621
no my humor isn't that advanced that it has several layers.
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>>79618
>mid caps
ngmi
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>>79582
Yeah, that's called shit accuracy, not something to train marksmanship on.
>>79618
Give it time. I was like this too, had a full chestrig of midcaps, now I have changed my guns and I dont give enough shit. Hi cap is just more convinient.
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>>79582
Yeah, that's called shit accuracy for marksmanship.
>>79618
Give it time. I was like this too, had a full chestrig of midcaps, now I have changed my guns and I dont give enough shit. Hi cap is just more convienient.
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>>79650
I never really felt mid caps were inconvenient at all desu. Maybe it’s because I only play outside and you just fire less bullets out there but for those 15-20 minute games that we do here even 2 mid caps are plenty of ammo.
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>airsoft looks cool let's buy an airsoft rifle
>my country bans full auto over 0.5 Joules
Wtf? I can go buy a real semi auto AR-15 but a regular full auto airsoft rifle is banned here?
I guess semi auto isn't too bad, but I feel like missing out...
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>>79682
Don't forget that you can't put flashlights on them as well
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>>79682
Germany? Can’t you just get a trigger like this guy https://youtu.be/_G_-SbAHDmU
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>>79682
>>my country bans full auto over 0.5 Joules
Does this kill the sport in Germany? It seems you don't hear much from German airsoft on the Youtube.
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>>79685
Yeah that applies to real guns too, a real shame
>>79694
Yeah Germany. Never thought about something like that. I guess getting a super light trigger might actually work, gonna look into that.
>>79702
I don't really know desu. I come from a competition shooting background and thought about getting into Airsoft. It doesn't seem to be as popular as in the Netherlands or Austria, but apparently there are still plenty of fields and games to play. Paintball is pretty popular here too.
Well I guess it could be worse like in Japan or China. Semi Auto is still allowed upto 7.5 joules.
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>>79708
In regards to airsoft Germany is definitely worse than Japan
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>>79733
>In Japan, airsoft guns are legal, but may not shoot with a muzzle energy above 3.5 J/cm2. This means a maximum of 0.989J in case of using 6mm BBs and 1.64J using 8mm BBs.
Doesn't seem much better to me.
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>>79735
You can put flashlights on them and 1J is a lot better than 0.5J AND you can use auto. In Germany you get retardation like semi auto MGs
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There's nothing wrong with semi. My group plays almost exclusively semi. Less chance of someone sperging out and holding down the trigger. Most family friendly. Sure it's fun to hold down the trigger, but most people are idiots.

Also, the main restriction in Japan is the 1J limit, which is just 300fps. That was THE standard when I started playing. It's still the standard for CQB in some places. Only when chinese companies started getting their stuff together did 400fps and above become more popular. Heck, most pistols are still around the 1J limit.
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>>79742
Yea i think semi is preferably as well. Especially now that there are stuff that basically turns your airsoft rifle into a laserbeam which just is unfair imo. It's why most milsim games are semi only as well at least where i live
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>>79755
The MilSims where i live allow full auto but they play using only real caps unless you go with a proper LMG
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we need a keltec p50 and we need it NOW
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>>79783
No.
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>>79783
As amusing as it would be to have one in airsoft, how the hell would it be made? Only thing I can think of would be making it a GBB using WE P90 mags, and even then it seems like it would be a pain in the ass to design
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>>79791
bb goes in and comes out barrel
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ok this is going to be a very strange question, but do you guys wear deodorant with aluminum in it? does it stain the uniform at all?
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>>79846
what uniform
do you understand how broad that question can be in terms of materials
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>>79846
What kind of soi boi question is this? Just rub some dirt into it, pussy.
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>>79856
Seriously. A combat uniform is supposed to be dirty, doesn't even really matter what dirt it is. Even Cheeto dust is better than not having any dirt.
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>>79742
>>79755
>>79773
Man, full auto is some straight bullshit. It's true that skill is one of the main factors in determining who wins and loses in airsoft, but let's not kid ourselves here; having premium equipment is a big deal when it comes to performing. This is why it's not that uncommon to see some 14 year old teen rental on his birthday getting BTFO'd all day until some generous veteran lets him borrow his 1000 dollar polarstar that shoots 50 rounds per second, and all of a sudden he's able to go toe-to-toe with players that have been coming for the past 5 years.

I don't actually mind when that happens. I think it's actually pretty nice when some vet lets a noob borrow his badass gun to finally give him a chance against the more experienced players, but when you've got long-time players who are already pretty good, and all they care about is winning, and so they min-max their entire fucking setup so they can sprint around with polarstars that weigh 3 pounds but shoot at 500fps at 60rps, THEN that's some pay to win bullshit.
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>>79869
I don't know any place with that kind of unrestricted performance. Everywhere I know of has strict fps and rps limits in the realm of reasonable for all the obvious reasons.
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>>79869
Full auto is allowed at my site, with the caveat that it's limited to bursts, and it doesn't seem to cause any problems. The only place I've seen Polarstar high RPS douchebaggery is Youtube, and always in the US.
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>>79846
I stopped wearing the aluminum deodorants and either the hipster natural deodorants/nothing and noticed that I sweat less. Eventually uniforms get those armpit stains, it takes some time to get that nasty though.
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>>79869
Restricting players to only use lowcaps/realcaps helps a lot to alleviate that issue.
Insane RPS are useless if you empty your mags in half a second
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got my scar today, too bad the stock was broken on arrival, so that sucks. Whoever repackaged it at Taiwangun after testing the FPS is a dumbass, cause it was just loose in a cardboard box obviously something is gonna break in transport
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>>79911
>KRAKMAN
I don't know what you expected
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>>79879
Nakadashi

at 50rps
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>>79911
F
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>>79869
>I don't actually mind when that happens. I think it's actually pretty nice when some vet lets a noob borrow his badass gun to finally give him a chance against the more experienced players, but when you've got long-time players who are already pretty good, and all they care about is winning, and so they min-max their entire fucking setup so they can sprint around with polarstars that weigh 3 pounds but shoot at 500fps at 60rps, THEN that's some pay to win bullshit.
I watched a guy with a glock round up 9 12 year olds with springers and hold off four times their number in an entrenched position and the polarstars couldn't do shit about them.

Skill issue.
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>>79911
That sucks, did you get a Thompson as well?
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>>80073
That's not winning, that just means they gained control of the entire map and trapped you guys into a single corner.
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>both me and my cousin bought JG BAR10G's about 8 years ago
>couple years later I stopped going to games and sold everything, but out of all the guns, the BAR was the only I regretted selling, even outside of games it was still fun to go plinking around with
>yesterday get a message from my cousin, he's looking for help selling his BAR that was sitting unused for years
>immediately say I'll buy it from him
Oh boy here I go again. This better not turn into a money pit like it did the first time.
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>>80165
Yup. At least that one worked. Might have to get the wood kit for it at some point
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What do you guys know/think about SRC?
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>>80217
It's shit
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>>80217
From what I've heard, externally they do some good work, particularly on their stamped guns (ex. MP5s) - internally a considerable amount of them need work
I'm personally interested in their USP, which seems to be a parts-compatible clone of TM's USP, as it's pretty affordable (especially compared to buying a TM with a metal slide kit where I am) and I haven't heard of anyone having issues with the things so far since they released in like May 2021
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so am i retarded or shouldn't higher bb weight = higher joule/fps? so when i chrono my gun at 0.20 and 0.25g it outputs the same for some reason. And yes i changed the bb weight in the chrono
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>>80287
Your gun outputs the same energy no matter the BB's weight (or at least it should).

higher weight/lower speed = lower weight/higher speed
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>>80334
Also, I didn't mean for that to be a literal equation. Too lazy to look it up on the google.
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>>80334
Alright thanks I was using some joule calculators online and the joule output changed depending on the weight so that’s why I thought it was supposed to
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>>80345
http://www.coderedairsoftpark.com/pages/park-rules-and-hours/fps-calculator.php Specifically this one
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>panda
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>>80345
You probably are doing the math wrong.
Your gun is applying the same force to launch those bbs.
Heavier bbs will go slower (less fps) and lighter bbs will go faster (more fps) but the joules should stay the same.
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>>80287
What are you, dumb? Force equals Mass times Acceleration. The heavier something is, and the faster it's going, the harder it hits. If you're shooting 300 feet per second with .20gram bb's, and if you're shooting 240 feet per second after you switched to .25gram bb's, then you're still hitting with the same amount of energy.
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>>80348
I don't get it, who the fuck is this "panda" group?
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>>80334
>retard physics

lower weight doesn't necessarily mean higher speed retard.
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>>80073
Bullshit. Every time I hear a story like this its total bs with no video evidence.
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>>80387
>with no video evidence.
Do you expect me to keep my contour on 24/7 or something? Taking video is a pain in the ass. I haven't shot a single second of footage in over a year.
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>>80398
Sounds like excuses again. If fucking 12 year olds can operate a go pro at every game so can you.
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>>80399
>If fucking 12 year olds can operate a go pro at every game so can you.
Maybe if they didn't spend so much time fucking with their camera they wouldn't bitch so much about getting spawntrapped every game.
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>>80384
Look at this einstein arguing lighter BB's won't go faster holy shit.
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>>80384
have you ever chrono-ed different weight BBs before?
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>>80217
I have a FN 57 made by SRC (sold by Cybergun), it's been pretty solid, though all proprietary. SRC make a lot of cheap shit, but also some okay stuff too, MP5s as someone mentioned. But generally they seem to be on the budget end of things.
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>>80540
>all plastic gun not made by TM
What were you smoking?
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>>80608
It's a Five-seveN - the real thing is entirely plastic externally with metal reinforcements within, so there's not really anything that can be done without sacrificing a serious degree of accuracy to the real thing
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>>80611
The SRC doesn't have any metal reinforcement in the slide, only the BBU and barrel are metal. The pistol is made from nylon polymer, not ABS, so it's pretty sturdy.
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>>80608
The TM FN Five-seveN (what a gay way of writing) has a pretty shit reputation, even low powered Jap gas fucks the internals, Marushins Co2 is equally as suicidal, so the SRC one seemed worth the gamble.
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>>80648
it looks cool tho
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>>77592
Virtually pointless, all you ever need is an MP5 or SMG; airsoft guns don't benefit from long barrels, so it's equally at home in woodland or CQB.

>>80742
A lot of people dislike the look of the FN 57, I can see why.
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man i should have put a 9.6v in my guns a long time ago instead of the 8.4 that comes with it. It's like night and day
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>>80883
>using Ni-MH batteries
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>>80883
Not to be rude or anything, but how long have you been using 8.4v NiMHs to where using a 9.6v is considered revolutionary in your eyes
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>>80888
idk like 4 months since i started playing. I just used the battery that came with the gun
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I'm shooting in my basement for fun, what weapons are most enjoyable for just maybe 15m range?
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>>80889
I see - eh, can't blame you if you hadn't looked/asked anywhere about batteries
9.6v NiMHs are great monkey-brain batteries that you can just plug and play with, but I'd suggest investing in some 7.4v LiPos and a good LiPo charger at some point - similar to slightly better performance, much smaller form factor, you just need to know how to take care of them properly
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>>80891
The reason i didn't get a lipo was that i was reading that lipos wear your internals fast and you would need a mosfet on top of it as well.
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>>80892
Anything that makes your gun run faster will in theory make it wear faster, but most guns worth a damn should be able to handle it
As for the MOSFET concern, that may be true to some extent of 11.1v LiPos, but it can be remedied with tech work (ex. installing a very basic, inexpensive unit that pretty much solely exists to make running an 11.1v easier on contacts and such) and 7.4v LiPos work just fine in pretty much all modern-production AEGs AFAIK that you'd find on the market without said tech work, while also matching/slightly exceeding the performance of 9.6v NiMHs
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>>80891
>>80895
For many people, NiMH is good enough. People move to LiPo because they either need more runtime and are constrainted by space, or the are upgrading their entire internals for high performance.

>>80892
If you aren't doing any fancy upgrades, MOSFET isn't needed. 7.4v isn't all that taxing on the system.
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>>80890
GBB pistols.
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>>80883
man the fuck up and go 11.1v
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Got locked out of my old account, does anybody have a link to the /asg/ discord?
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Those Titan batteries actually seem to be worth the money now that I've been using them for 6 months. No bloat, even though I forgot them in my truck for weeks on end fully charged and overly warm. My buddies all seem to have similar experiences.

Any of you fags have any issues with them yet?
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>>81029
No. Those are gold standard.
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>>81029
They are great but don't fucking fit in anything I have. Cells too fat to fit in LCT PP-19
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>>80895
Getting a mosfet to go with lipo is recommended just so newbies don't get a flaming battery when their trigger contacts melt together and their cheao chink gun did not have a fuse which is surprisingly common.
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>>81029
Nope, they hold a charge for ages and are built solid. A good battery makes a world of a difference in many applications.
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>>81071
>trigger contacts melt together
Does this really happen? I ran my Cyma AK on an 11.1 for more than a year without a mosfet, trigger contacts were fine.
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>>81084
It happens, but usually not in stock equipment. It's a combination of things, but often starting with high voltage.
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>>81084
I had a fun with VERY coarse finish on the contacts so they often stuck together if I pulled the trigger as far back as possible. Everything's possible with cheap stuff.

I wonder who is gonna try to do this as AEG. Ver7 gb might fit. Or maybe some vfc custom dogshit.
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Any Viper Tech owners here?
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>>81123
>AEG
Pass
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>>81124
I'm too poor
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>>81123
forget it, shit ain't gonna fit if you want to retain sliding buttstock
v6, maybe, it would still be tricky
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>>81173
Mp7 box maybe but the cylinder volume would be awful for the barrel
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>>81173
With it being similar to a FAMAS, perhaps a V1 gearbox would fit? Seems a bit niche in any case, can't imagine many manufacturers being desperate to rush one to market.
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>>81235
Ares maybe? They released a Lel kek RDB last year for no reason
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>>81254
>buying ares anything

I'd rather buy a 400 aeg from wish.
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I have an LCT AK74 and only played a few games with it, but everyone says (some friends and some people online) LCTs need a new motor and that i should just upgrade it in general, buy new internals and all that... my question is, to the more experienced anons, do i really need all that shit right out of the bat if i just want to do some weekend skirmishes for fun? i haven't had a single problem in terms of range and accuracy with it (only problem i had was with the fire selector being kind funny and sometimes shooting single when it's set to auto and vice-versa) and buying all that stuff for muh accuracy and muh fire rate seems silly -i haven't died once ebcause my gun didn't outfirerate the other guy's gun-, they are toy guns ffs
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>>81285
It's your rifle, run it for a while and see if YOU want to upgrade it.
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>>81285
As long as you are having fun with it and are comfortable with the precision/fire rate/range of your rifle there is no need to upgrade anything
I run with a spring shotgun and a stock JG g36 and i always have a blast.
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>>81285
You do not need to do anything to it. I did a lot of weekly shitball and a bunch of milsim stuff, and generally beat the shit out of it. No modifications, 11.1v battery. I actually detuned mine a bit because it was shooting hot. 50,000 bbs later, no issues at all.
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>>81296
>>81299
>>81306
These people are ALL WRONG>

j/k

>>81285
Run it til something breaks or you feel like it's lacking. The only issue with waiting til it breaks is if you don't have something to fall back on to keep playing. That's why I always bring 4 guns with me. Just in case.....
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>>81285
Leave it as it is. At some point though you'll probably start to want better trigger response and less whine in the gears. Changing the motor, shimming, and installing a mosfet are fairly easy. But don't mess around with it just for the sake of replacing parts, that's just dumb. A lot of people buy a gun and and manage to make its performance instantly shitter by trying to fix what isn't broke.
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>>81285
If you're having fun playing airsoft you're doing something wrong. You should definitely try to upgrade your gun, especially if you have no experience doing so, so that it can break down multiple times per game. That's how you play airsoft.
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Is there an easy way of weakening my guns? I got a couple that are shooting a bit too hot. The are CYMA AEG's for reference 0.45a and 0.48m
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Speaking of airsoft...

What do you think about my collection?
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>>81341
kek
>>81353
Some people say compress the spring; pull the trigger so the gears spin, but not so far that it completes a cycle and releases the piston, then leave it. I tried this, leaving a Cyma 040 compressed for a week, but it didn't seem to make any difference at all. Had to change the spring in the end.
>>81354
Nice. What kind of Tavor is that?
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>>81355
ARES tar21
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>>81354
>most replicas are black
>KWC CO2 1911
>shitty proprietary Beretta M12 too make others think you have something unique and interesting
>shitty springer shotgun with mags
>plastic imitation wood stock "sniper rifle" that I bet is stock
>springer fagpul furniture shotgun
>shit red dot on Tavor
>basic bitch M4 that's not even vanilla
>G36 that's not an E
>shitty CYMA TM spec AK
Instead of buying more replicas get some that are actually good. You're wasting money on garbage. Buy an LCT or something.
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>>81354
Looks neat, and like you probably have more fun with using the various guns in it than the other guy does shoving the barrel of his LCT up his ass before posting
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>>81373
Go buy a Lancer Tactical, scrub
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I decided to spend ~300$ on random evike mystery gun boxes.
2 of them and a bone yard.
I feel like this would have been better spend on my tt-33.

Has anyone bought one of these mystery gun boxes before?
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>>81391
No, because they're almost exclusively done to allow retailers to offload stock that they aren't able to sell for one reason or another by presenting it as a gamble in which you always technically get something more valuable than the monetary input, even if what you get is just random garbage they couldn't sell to people normally
If you're going to buy one, be absolutely certain you'd be alright with getting *anything* that could be in them - if you wouldn't be okay with that, and/or plan to buy one with the intention of acquiring something specific, don't buy them and instead spend that money on things you actually want
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>>81353
No. Changing spring, shorter barrel. If you absolutely cheap, you could try cutting the spring.
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>>81391
Let us know how it goes. The graveyard shit interests me
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I really wish there was a good solution for the selector system on airsoft AKs, the standard design is such bullshit. You need so many parts, and nearly all of them are shitty cast zinc or plastic, even on high-end guns. If any of them get even a little wear, your selector gets loose or won't go into the right firemode. Older AKs firing full-auto when set to semi is a very common problem. If you're rebuilding a gun and start mixing different brands' parts you're probably fucked. It's been like 30 years since this shit was developed, surely somebody would have thought out a better method, or at least made an upgrade kit consisting of a high-quality, matched set of all of these parts.

I generally don't fuck with mosfets since that just introduces yet another potential point of failure 'and' doesn't address the sloppy selector issue, but I almost want to look into them because this shit is fucking awful.
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>>81423
shit, so you had that problem as well? is there any solution to this? it hasn't bothered me too much (yet), but it's certainly not how it's supposed to be.
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>>81393
That is just it though, I bought with no expectations for all of my order hoping for a project to get running.
Unlike my other project with require a lot more fabrication that 3d printing can't do/ i want a cnc to make later.
>>81422
I have no hope and a friend of mine buys a lot of them for trying to modify what he already has.
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>>81423
>>81443
All hail Eugene Stoner.
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>>81467
nigger we're talking about toy guns here
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>>81447
Your friend is an idiot
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Quick question, what's the purpose of the TDC mod on vsr rifles?
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>>81423
Only way I can think of would be mirroring the gearbox so the selector would be in the right side from the start.
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>>81391
congrats on your five springers (one without a spring)
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>>81423
i've noticed that even with perfect meshing of the gears, there's often slop in the little nub that connects the selector lever to the toothed arm.

aside from milling your own steel nub, I think there are two other alternatives, either the E&L selector which is welded onto a steel nub or the retro arms cnc selector which is a one-piece design.
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Hol up, should the edges of the motor gear look like that? Stock lct pp-19.
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>>81506
Looks poorly machined for a new pinion gear, but nothing that can't be ran for a long time without issue if you keep it clean and lubed, either
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>>81506
Yeah. First time looking at a motor?
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>>81516
Nah, just haven't opened one for a long time.


And I fucked it up anyway. Fuck me for being a left handed retard.
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>>81517
F
Good excuse to get a slim motor grip. Way more comfy than obese AEG AK grips
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>>81518
Yeah maybe. For now im just gonna take sisters from another motor. Have to buy a new selector plate anyway because the plastic they used is so sorry that the last teeth is slightly sheared and if I put the gun on safe it won't move the plate anymore. Goddamn pain in the ass.
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I hate AEGs. Sue me faggot.

Systema PTWs are OK.
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>>81483
Eugene Stoner had the foresight to envision the AR as the basis for toy guns and designed the lower to fit around a V2 gearbox.
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>>81544
What GBBs do you own?
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>>81554
Your mom.
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>>81556
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>>77592
Are you playing a close quarters field?

Then I recommend a fully automatic pistol with a drum and Co2 line run to a back pack set up. My friend is extremely successful with his in a warehouse we play in. But when we play out doors he runs a M4 or AK set up. Pick the right tool for the job.





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