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Keep strictly real steel gun related laws and politics to >>>/k/ and >>>/pol/. Leave the gun and gear porn.

If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.

>Updated Newbie pastebin
https://pastebin.com/Qy01C4Ta

>/asg/ retailer guide
http://pastebin.com/YHNFKKt6

>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airs

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>>74157
Thread prompt: Are you happy with the public perception of airsoft? How do you think it can be improved? What do you think scares away people?
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>>74159
I think the image of airsoft fattys is quite a poor outside look. I swear half of the guys on the field have a BMI over 40. Another poor part is the YouTube community, it is the biggest e-celeb paied shill shithole with faggots whoring over who’s the B3STTTTT!??!! and other such cringe, same goes for Reddit too. The Milsim/Spedsoft dichotomy is completely retarded too, with speedsofters being overshoting assholes and Milsimers Larping way too hard. Our public image is directly linked to growth of the sport so we should work out best to be looked upon warmly and not AIRSHOFT CHEATERR VC VIDDIERO HE BUTNED MY BATCH HRR
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>>74159
Maybe it's country dependant, but i don't think a lot of people know airsoft actually exists as a hobby besides just plinking in the backyard. At least the people i have talked to about it at work, or family they didn't even know you could do it as a sport.
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I just bought a RS type 56 underfolder,and the underfolder gets loose every single time ,i have tighten the screws and wrench the locking bolt,but it gets loose,anyone know any fix?also only have one pin in my bolt, shouldn't i have three?i have been using google.
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>>74157
Bunch of LARPing faggots.

FUCK you and your trash.
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>>74165
FuCK u fag
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>>74161
>Maybe it's country dependant
It is. I prefer as little public perception as possible. Not because of gatekeeping, but the more people are aware it exists, the bigger probability of someone trying to regulate it.

I'm lucky enough to be in a country where the general public is barely aware of airsoft and doesn't really care, so it's pretty much unregulated besides limiting velocity to under 17J. Most normies I mention airsoft to either don't know what it is or think of it as toys for kids, which is fine.
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Recently got interested in airsoft because of youtube vids. And i recall my buddy is huge airsoft milsim fag. He talked about it couple of years ago. Now i regret i did't asked him to introduce me to it. Now where i live season is mostly over i think, today was first snow. Too bad. Now i have to wait for spring to try it. But if i gona like it, i gona buy Tokyo Marui SVR 10 and play with that as a sniper. But at first i will rent to check if i like it. For now i gona masturbate on gear pics on internet :(
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>>74157
I couldn't care less about public perception since all my hobbies are fat nerd hobbies anyway
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>>74172
You'd care if the public suddenly goes "GUNZ BAD!!" and gets the banned/regulated. It happened with drones, where drones are more restricted and regulated than some actual aircraft.
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>>74171
I would recommend against getting a sniper as your first gun for games if that's your intention. It's gonna be a lot of sitting around and maybe getting a couple shots in, compared to using rifles.
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>>74159
I think the perception of airsoft's community isn't the major issue, it's the cost of gear for a younger person looking to get in to it that doesn't have the level of disposable income that the older and more fortunate of us do. I've helped kit out a few nephews now and while dropping $350 isn't a huge deal to me, I get that it certainly can be for some people for whatever reason. Really, we suffer from the same issues of growth that baseball, lacrosse and hockey do, shit costs money.
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>>74159
>public perception of airsoft
I want it out of the public eye as much as possible. I want my autistic BB larping to remain autistic BB larping.
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>>74207
Honestly the largest growth area I've seen as of late has been older gun guys and their kids, which is the exact demo that makes it the most wholesome but also can be the most douchey outside of fat 20 somethings that are 8k in debt for their armory of HPAs and TMs
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>>74203
Yeah, I'd say that's not an issue, that's just life. Everything costs money, some you just need a bat and glove, others require a horse.

>>74171
>>74194
I agree. Airsoft sniping is not how you think it's going to be. Watching videos is deceptive because they only show you the good stuff. And many fields have restrictions on snipers, and sometimes outright banning them.

Best best is to just get a general purpose rifle that can fill as many roles as possible. Sniper rifles are for when you can level up to owning multiple specialized weapons.
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>>71151
Guy's name is Cole N, and he's the infamous perpetrator of that "twix and alex magdumping" incident that you may or may not have heard of.

Dude acts hard as fuck in real life and all of his videos, but he's actually a soft, lily-livered faggot. Most of his victims are literal kids and teenagers who'll back down from an aggressor, but if a grown adult calls him out on his bullshit and challenges him to an actual physical altercation he starts backpedaling VERY quickly, especially if you're bigger than him and actually work out, because he's just some DYEL faggot rich kid who can't fight for shit. Literally the only reason he acts hot is because his mommy bought him an expensive polarstar that hurts like fuck, so he knows when it comes to outshooting you, his gun performs hotter than any other gun on the field. But if you take the airsoft gun out of the equation and tell him to fight you one on one in the parking lot, he knows he's powerless and starts st-st-st-stuttering and making up excuses like "W-What? You're gonna fight me over a GAME, bruh? Haha...j-just keep playing, bruh, s-shut the fuck up haha. It's j-just a game, bruh, why you gonna fight me over a G-GAME, bruh? Haha..."

Guy needs to be socked in the mouth a few times in order to realize some people don't put up with that shit; unfortunately he's good at picking out weakness and generally doesn't fuck with people he knows will fight back.
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>>74191
Anon I live in the UK
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>>74316
>>71151
That was some of the worst play I've ever seen both tactically and socially.
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>>74316
Man, if my kid acted like that when he was out on the field he'd find all his shit sold on craigslist to pay for some fuckin therapy. What a disgusting shitheel
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>>74159
People probably assume it's all either CoDkiddies or conservative rednecks
I don't know how this can really be fixed
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>>74366
I mean, that feels like a good 70% of the people you see on the average airsoft/paintball field
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>>74354
They say you don't need good equipment to be good at airsoft, but while that may be true, it's also definitely true that better equipment DOES make you better at the game. With a thousand dollar polarstar that fires at 1200rpm at 500fps, even a fucking 12 year old kid can dominate the battlefield-- the same 12 year old rental that was just struggling with his budget ar15 a few seconds ago, until some nice guy let him borrow his polarstar to make him feel better one day.

I think speedsoft is okay when they just capitalize on lulls in the game to rush corners and sink 1 or 2 bb's per target, but when they literally just laser a bunker while running towards it so that you have no chance to peek out, and then they just hose you down 5 or 6 times on full auto, that shit's weak as fuck. Literally anyone with a powerful and fast-firing gun can do that, which is why literal children with expensive guns DO manage to do that to experienced players.

I also think it's bullshit to work around the "no full auto" rule by modifying their triggers so they can feather it at near full-auto speeds. It defeats the whole purpose of the "no full auto" rule, which is to discourage richfags from using their technological advantage from dominating the battlefield, but there's no real way to police trigger feathering, so richfags will fag it up and modify their guns anyway so they can claim they're really good at playing with toy guns.
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>>74358
It's so evident that this kid either grew up with very little adult supervision, OR his parents were pushover parents who didn't know how or when to instill boundaries or discipline. It's textbook suburban sociopathy that you see in neglected rich kids who grew up with money, and not much else. Furthermore, because he lives in such a nice and sheltered area, there's no one to check his behavior like what would happen if he grew up in a rougher area where social tolerance for douchebaggery is much more limited. All in all, kid needs a good ass-whooping, and if he doesn't receive it now, he's going to find himself in prison one day under the mistaken belief that the world deems him untouchable.
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>>74417
This is precisely why people say milsimmers have the most fun.
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>>74420
Also, to the speedsofters who say milsimmers are faggy for taking the game way too seriously, you may be right that SOME milsimfags treat airsoft like srs biznss, but there are a billion fucking speedsofters who somehow think speedsofting makes you "hard", which is the faggiest shit I've EVER fucking heard of.

Holy shit, edgy fucking teenagers will actually revolve their entire personality around speedsofting and call themselves "speedsofters" without a single hint of irony, and upload faggy compilation videos of them magdumping people and then getting magdumped themselves as if to show the world "yeah, I'm fucking hard, look at me playing AIRSOFT, I can take SO MANY fucking hits", and they'll be one hundred percent serious in thinking it makes them hardcore badasses. It's the equivalent of stealing candy from walmart and posting it up on facebook saying "I'm fucking hard, I live outside of the law, gang gang", but not as a joke or anything, you just unironically think stealing 3 dollars worth of candy makes you America's most wanted. That's what it's like.

To further the analogy, to the speedsoft faggots who immediately deescalates shit the moment someone asks you to throw down, it would be like the equivalent of said shoplifter getting caught by walmart security and immediately crying for mercy because you don't want a shoplifting charge on your spotless little record.

Anyways, that's enough blogposting from me.
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>>74159
>public perception of airsoft
Airsoft is relatively unknown, but for average people it's at least vaguely unappealing; manchildren playing soldiers in the woods.
>How do you think it can be improved?
More minorities and women, but not Asians or ugly women as airsoft already has its fair share of those. But who really wants women, normies, and bad minorities in our precious hobby?
>What do you think scares away people?
The inherently pathetic military LARP element of airsoft.
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>>74159
Airsoft would be better if it was marketed way less to the general public (women, redditors, cosplay fags, children, etc.) and way more to guys who enjoy war games and physical exercise for their own sake. It's currently this giant gear queer fest where even at actual games everyone is putting all their energy into acting like a cringelord and none into getting pumped up and enjoying shooting people.
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>>74159
most peoples experience is shaped by shithead 14 year old cheating during that time they did a airsoft party and annoying low quality gear video’s on YouTube.
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>>74447
>More minorities and women

How to kill a hobby instantly
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>>74447
Fuck off, normalfag
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>>74461
post pinks
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>he uses a 2000 lumen strobe light in an indoor field

fuck you
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I had a dream I played airsoft
It was fun
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>>74467
See you at GC :^)
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>>74456
>>74461
Kek, I'd never seen those last 3 panels before. Also I wasn't advocating for more minorities and women, but inclusion is the default way of improving public image in the 21st century.
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Long time no see, who's playing this weekend?
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>>74538
Negative, too much work and real life shit to do, I've just been buying tonnes of airshit stuff online like a massive fucking retard.
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>my obnoxious italian neighbor across the street is working on his picketfencecore garden and is ass is is in flat trajectory range from my front door
>have to actively resist the urge to squeeze off a shot with my AEG
this is why airsoft guns are dangerous, I might think about shooting him with my real guns all the time but he doesn't quite deserve that and I know I couldn't get away with it, but with airsoft guns I can see it actually happening
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the rear sight on my hi cappa lost the adjustment screw and spring, they popped out last time I played. Can I just use a drop of CA glue to hold it shut while I wait for the replacement or should I get locktite?
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>>74546
why would you give one shit about zeroed iron sights on an airsoft pistol? Most people don't even zero their real pistols
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>>74542
what the fuck is wrong with you dude
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>>74538
I'm playing tomorrow if the weather's good, last time the field was soaked so they only let us do close quarters in this high ground part of the woods, it gets old fast.
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>>74547
its not about it being zeroed its about the top of it flapping around when I move and shoot, I just want to keep it closed, but I need access to it still to remove the blowback housing if and when I need.
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>>74453
This is true, most of the guys I airsoft with I also go to the gym with. It's easy to recruit guys with an interest in camping, offroading and other outdoor activities as well. We're all just gear queers with bb guns at the end of the day
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>>74159
Its unpopular, but I like where airsoft is at the moment. My local fields are all a blast to play at, and I personally dont care what people think about it from the general public. The only thing I worry about are places like California and Canada trying to ban "guns", and airsoft being affected by that kind of overreach.
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>>74587
Just "eliminate" people that are going after airsoft
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>2 weeks into airsoft he posts a picture of his kit
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>>74661
Attention whores
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>>74661
Post your kit, fag
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>>74159
I don't really have an issue with it scaring away people. I'd rather the risk of ridicule for it than have everyone and their mum try to jump in at some point.
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>>74417
The fact that you can buy your way out of having to be skilled needs to be a more commonly known thing. You still see poorfags arguing its all skill or to just "out skill" the guy with the $1200 hpa gun in situations like that.
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Airsoft would be a lot better if you could only use gas blowbacks. Prove me wrong
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>>74695
Yep. One or two threads ago this guy was sperging out on me telling me to git gud because I was trying to buy a gun with a decent FPS. If you don't have range there are hard limits to what you can do in outdoor games, there was a time last game when there was a complete field without cover that was longer than the range of my rental AEG.
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>>74714
Airsoft would be a lot better if gas blowbacks were handled better in general. There isn't a nearly good enough market for gas rifles.
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Rate my first gun. Decided to go for Marui MWS GBBR for that realistic feel. Stoked to play my first game next week!
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>>74721
is this bait lol
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>>74721
>first gun
>mods
>two uppers
>GBBR
>cerakoted
Yeah. Gonna need some timestamps, chief
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>>74721
looks nice
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>>74719
I kind of agree, it would limit douchebagery, but gas guns are finicky af and expensive, also it would turn a lot of people away from the hobby.
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>>74721
For some reason, I seriously doubt this is your build or even just a TM MWS; I'm like 90% sure you just grabbed someone's real SBR build and tried to pass it off as an MWS, judging by things like the Law Tactical sidefolder
Post actual picture of gun with timestamp or GTFO lmao; nothing against you if you actually follow through, at that point I'd just wondering why you'd post someone else's build beyond fishing for attention
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>>74746
*I'd just be wondering why
I'm fucking illiterate today, damn
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>>74714
Airsoft would be a lot better if you could only use low or mid-cap mags, and if every field followed the "only semi-auto unless your platform is a full-sized machinegun" rule, in which case that's the only time when high-cap magazines would be allowed. That way if you DO indeed have a technological and monetary advantage over other players, you also have to be strong and fit enough to carry around a full-sized LMG for the entire day in order to utilize your full auto capabilities. No more scrawny fricking teenagers running around with 3 pound lasersoft guns, and no more lasering cover at 1200rpm unless you wanna go through 55 mags in 10 seconds.
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>>74157
i want to get into airsoft with my little bro and friends i have a lot of property to do it on but i dont know where to start. would buying two of these be retarded? I've been looking thru the pastebin shit in the op.
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>>74754
Lol fucking no.
Just buy a pair of CYMAs and a couple midcaps.
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>>74750
The fields I go to also have RPM limits. I haven't seen it happen, but I'm confident that feather triggers that allow RPM over the limit would also be prohibited.
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>>74754
Just go here and buy a couple cheap electric M4s or AKs and a handful of mags to go with them.
https://www.evike.com/
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>>74754
>Is buying an irl lootbox retarded?
Yes.
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>>74754
Sub 400$ mystery boxes are just a scam to get the warehouse free of chinese crap no one wants.
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>>74750
My field bans full auto completely in the "city" (basically the semi-cqb part of the field) but allows it everywhere else so long as you're under 400 FPS. I think it works well enough, people learn that full auto is a waste at range.
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We own the night, bitches
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>>74778
Cringe AEG user
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>>74769
>>74760
>>74758
>>74756
>>74755
Will get cheap electric m4s and aks from one of the sites linked in OP thanks very much
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>>74778
SEX
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Urge to buy a PP rising
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>>74160
I don't quite understand what differentiates Milsim from normal 'woodsball' or whatever its called. I've basically only ever played in forest locations, and they tended to have interesting objectives, but it was never with autistic organization and uniforms.
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>>74844
Milsim is military simulation. So you can pay 100€ for a ticket to an event and be ordered to stand guard at some forest road for a weekend while some guys get pretend being mechanized infantry and do cool shit.
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>>74844
I believe it's a sliding scale. Woodsball is somewhere in the milsim side of the scale. Full blown milsim is re-enacting some real military conflict where you need the right uniform, told where to go, what to do, and the organizers are jerking off to their live action toy soldiers.
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>>74849
>>74850
at my field it's just a separate day with slightly modified rules, same price. I don't know what else really distinguishes it beyond trying to attract larpers
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First time posting here just got into airsoft this year and wanted to show my ratnik gear. Hope yall like it comrades !
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>>74858
are you in florida?
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Getting into airsoft, yall like my pistol? Gona put an acetech tracer on the end of it and use it in my local CQB field.
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>>74838
PP good.
Take the PP pill.
Then buy KP9 and clone your PP.

>>74858
>Bean kit
>FSB patch
>AK12
>generally everything as a whole
>my face
This kit is farbfucked to hell and back.
So basically standard beantard kit.
Bet 90% of it came from gayshop and not a real gear plug.
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>>74873
>Bet 90% of it came from gayshop and not a real gear plug
It definitely has that vibe. I'm weak to slavshit stuff though so for a first kit I don't think it's bad.
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>>74873
But should I get the bare bones LCT peepee or wait for the arcturus peepee that has quick spring change, spring decocker and mosfet stock for 300€?
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>>74858
get a baclava that fits
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>>74877
When is the Arcturus coming out? And why isn't it a PPK-20?
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>>74887
Coming out somewhere between now and after new year. PPK-20 is just couple new parts installed that you could add yourself.
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>>74868
Have you ever played before? You'll quickly learn that pistols are a meme, rifles are way better and way more fun.
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Are rifled barrels a thing? I don't like hop up so I wouldn't miss it if I had to trade back spin for horizontal spin
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>>74868
>>74913
I have plenty of fun playing with my pistol at the local indoor field. I will eventually get an aeg but I dont feel underpowered playing with a pistol at all.
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>>74914
Wouldn't the bb just spin in the direction of rotation on the rifling?

>>74922
I played a game with my new pistol last week and did pretty well,

My field run a no full auto rule though and marshalls kick you out for trigger spamming
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>>74930
Do you not know what rifling is?
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>>74931
Do you?
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>>74914
rifling is done to keep oblong projectiles in an aerodynamic orientation, it wouldn't have much of an effect on a spherical projectile like a bb which is why hop up is the preferred spec for airsoft. it also offers the advantage of extending range which rifling will not do.
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>>74934
It's supposed to make the thing spin, that's the whole point.
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>>74922
Pistols truly shine in the indoor arena, the tight profile and quick ROF just gets it done. Outdoors, the only pistols I've seen really get stuff done are the NBB MK23s because of their range, accuracy, reliability and quiet muzzle report.
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Plan on getting a WE Desert Eagle with 4 extra mags and dunking on people as Agent Smith
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>>74951
Yeah but it won't work on bbs, they don't fire bbs with enough force to be able to push them down a rifled barrel while engaging the rifling
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>>74914
Rifling isn't done on BBs in airsoft because the rotation of the BB's would cause them to drill into a man.
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>>74931
The point is that won't work with a round projectile, rifling only works because it's oblong and maintains orientation.
Rifling also works by deforming the projectile which can't happen with a hard BB.
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>>74914
>wants range
>hates hop-up

Why do you hate science?
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>>74914
https://www.britannica.com/science/Magnus-effect

If it went horizontal, it would heavily hinder distance and trajectory. Backspin is incredibly necessary to make a shovel object attain enough lift to where it can actually travel good distances with force that wouldn't make airsoft guns full auto pneumatic muskets
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>>74157
Is there any point to using long AEGs like the SVD and M14, beyond liking how they look? Does barrel length have any bearing on accuracy or power in AEGs?
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>>75021
No it's all about the internals.
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>>74980
Do I really need to explain the downsides of hop-up? It's this synthetic kind of "range" that severely fucks up your trajectory, also it happens to lower the gun's FPS but no one talks about that.
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>>75005
At the point where hop up matters your accuracy is so thoroughly fucked that you only have a chance if you're mag dumping, which is gay
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>>75031
rifling would lower it more because the bb would have to be in contact with the grooves the whole way
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>>75031
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Anyone know what the OEM for the different Lancer Tactical guns are? Local store has a a pile of their guns and I'm trying to figure out which one is which.
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>when you leave the rental to defend the point
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>>75051
use your words, little boy
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>>74159
I never told my teachers or classmates i played airsoft when they asked about my hobbies because of the perception some people have of it being either “radical militia” shit or school shooter shit. Didnt wanna get looked at weird so i pretty much only told my friends about it.
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>>75062
>have it explained to you half a dozen different ways, why hop up works and rifling doesn't with bb's
>"nuh uh, hop up screws up trajectory"
the engineering in airsoft is a solved problem, some basement dweller talking about rifling isn't bringing anything new or innovative to the table. At the end of the day you're playing with toy guns, if you really want pinpoint accuracy get a real steel gun and go to the range, otherwise shut the fuck up.
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>>75069
I own 8 real guns and I literally just was saying that I don't like hop-up, the rifling thing was purely speculative. I don't use hop-up except on an emergency basis in a game, there's no reason to have it on my default.
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>>75021
>>75023
The barrel length matters *some*, and long guns can have a better weight distribution for aiming (that's why shotguns are made long, it's not really about spread). But it barely matters and is almost purely a style thing.
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>>75070
>be retard
>find out just how retarded you're actually being
>try to backpedal
>"I...I own 8 guns and know all about it okay!"
sure kid
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>>74858
Little tip, drop the vkbo balaclava and get a thin one from amazon, vkbo clavas are meant for cold winter and they dont fit well.
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It ain't right that I have too watch german videos to get indepth look to new guns. Fuck all these "reviewers" with their ten minute sales pitches
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>>75073
>getting ass blasted by benign posts about a silly sport you take seriously for some reason
>thinking owning real guns is a big deal
>somehow trying to call other people kids
lol
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>>75083
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>>75090
Give literally one example of me backpedling. Hell, give me one example of a position I've stated beyond "I don't like hop-up".
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>>75056
Please dont buy a lancer, theyre so unreliable, I’m guessing the store is modern airsoft and if so, please shop somewhere else, theyre really not a good company
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>>75031
Yes, hop up induces drag and lower's inertia, but the induced drag is needed to let the BB gain lift as well (through both third law and magnus effect) . Heavier BBs with tight bore barrels no greater than 415mm and no less than 335 seem to do the best in terms of being accurate even with (really especially with) hop-ups . Even more so when powered by a reliable and consistent force like HPA or extremely gucci AEGs and precision built springers. I have two guns where I can reach out past the dreaded 60 yard mark and manage to get 1 in 3 shots in to the A-zone.

Get a better barrel, a mad bull or leaf hop up, and a good quality tightbore barrel. It makes a tremendous difference
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>>75099
Thanks for the advice but for now I'm fine just having a gun with decent FPS and only turning on hop-up in obvious situations that call for it, like in a shootout from cover where my shots aren't making it.
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>>75101
Yeah, that's just common sense. I'm not telling you to always use hop, I'm telling you you can be accurate at range with it
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>>75070
>I own 8 real guns
lol, you forgot the part about also being an ex Navy Seal.
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>>75101
>turning on hop-up in obvious situations
>like in a shootout
Over very short distances like in CQB hop has no advantages, but dialling in your hop up during a skirmish in a woodland game for example is completely impractical, fiddling with your hop when you should be shooting or moving gives your opponent a much increased chance of getting the better of you. Are you new to airsoft?
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>>75119
Are you not just setting your hop to lift your preferred weight of BB and leaving it there?

There really is no alternative unless you stop firing BBs, rifling will not work
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Yes, random people I've talked to about airsoft think it's interesting. To improve the image of airsoft, you need to market it better. When the clone airsoft replicas started appearing, that helped make the hobby more affordable and accessible. Standardized rules aren't necessary, some of the best airsoft experiences I've had are out in rogue fields out in the sticks with minimal rules and casual games. People just try too hard and it's awkward. Milsim and speedsoft just need to be their own realms and respect yet differentiate each other. I'm more of a speedsoft dude, but you can have fun in a Milsim setting too.
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>>75138
I think it's fun as long as everyone is chill and aren't trying too hard. Like the people who are way into it and make it their entire identity are the worst
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>>75115
You can just go out and buy them, you know. The cheapest one was $200. Having pieces of useless metal laying around isn't bad ass, I have too many and am trying to get rid of 1 or 2.
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>>75119
Sort of, I played a bunch 10 years ago (actual outdoor fields) and just got back into it. In the sort of shoot outs where you'd need that extra range, you usually are in fixed positions and can get away with taking a few seconds. I just practice giving it a standard amount of turn on the nob so I don't have to keep adjusting it.
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>>75138
I think the biggest issue with marketing is that people don't know there are actual paid fields for it, they think its all backyard.
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>>75127
The alternative is just not bothering with it, simple as.
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>>75143
I feel like most people that know of airsoft think its all like the Vice documentary, big milsim events where everyone is larping and trying to have a hyper accurate kit. there is such a nice casual side to it where you can just go and shoot your friends for a few hours on a Saturday that doesn't get enough light.
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>>75150
That's not my experience, people see the shitty guns they sell at walmart, and occasionally see the messy piles of broken guns and gear these kiddies have in their bedroom, and assume it's just them being retarded in their own neighborhood.
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>>75158
As someone that got into the hobby ~3 months ago I can tell you that was certainly not my perception, I've never, and still haven't, seen an airsoft gun in a retail store that wasn't dedicated to it. I certainly didn't care what kiddies had piled in their room or what not. Before I did any research my perception of airsoft was almost exactly the Vice doc.
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>>75163
Are you not from America?
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>>75165
Milwaukee born and raised
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>>75166
Maybe kiddies dont do it so much in cities, here it is almost universally seen as a plastic toy game for kiddies
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>>75158
Walmart stopped selling airsoft shit in 2019
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Where the fuck can you sell airsoft guns now? Can't list them on CL, FB, Offerup, etc. Have an old gun from when I was a teen I'm trying to get rid of locally without shipping and it's pretty much impossible.
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>>75212
I do all my shit on eBay or going to local fields and putting up a few flyers. This gay hobby has more bullshit being forced against it by the Zucc than actual fucking sitting it feels like
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>>75212
Hello, Cole N
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>>75212
>>75244
Holy shit, we have THE Cole Nigger in our thread RIGHT NOW?
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>>75270
I'm just guessing because Cole N:

>Is trying to sell off all his airsoft guns due to being banned from practically everywhere
>Is underage, so I'm assuming he can't put them up on Craigslist, facebook, or whatever the fuck
>Says he's selling an old gun "from when he was a teen", which is when he was doing his old airsoft bullshit
>Says it's impossible to sell them locally, possibly due to the fact that everyone in the airsoft community near him knows who he is and refuses to buy from him
>Cole seems like the type to browse 4chan and think he's hard for it

It was mostly a joke post, but if that actually was Cole, I wouldn't be that surprised
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>>75271
I've looked at his videos and he mostly plays at this absolutely retarded speedsoft field that is basically a bunch of open corridors.
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>>75212
magdump your dick
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>>75280
dee nutta
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>>75021
Longer barrels achieve more velocity on any given strength of spring (up to a point). less spring strength = less amp draw and less stress on gearbox internals and shell (only a concern w/ v2 shells)
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>>75278
Man, speedsofters are mostly alright as long as they understand that it's just a type of playstyle and treat it like a hobby, but the edgy speedsofters that make airsoft their whole personality are faggy as fuck.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People who upload videos of themselves magdumping other players and think they're so hard for doing it is the equivalent of stealing 5 dollars worth of snacks from walmart and thinking they're the hardest criminals of all time. Double faggotry if they say some weak shit like "I'm just a teenager", or "you're going to punch me over a game?" when it's about to become physical. That's like getting caught by walmart security and screaming "I can't be charged as an adult" before crying to the rent-a-cop so you don't get in trouble.

Bunch of upper middle-class suburban faggots with thousand dollar polarstars that they got from mommy's credit card.
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>>75285
this right here
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>>75285
You're right, I've heard you say every single part of that before in slightly different words. Do you have any actual experience here or are you just going off meme'd youtube videos?
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>>75285
>Man, speedsofters are mostly alright as long as they understand that it's just a type of playstyle and treat it like a hobby, but the edgy speedsofters that make airsoft their whole personality are faggy as fuck.
We have a local team that is alright to hang with and sometimes chill to play with, but holy shit do they get toxic on the fucking regular and more often than not.
There is no fucking need to sprint around back of a 12 year old and stitch him the fuck up with half a midcap, like what the fuck are you doing man
Chill
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>>75271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d_khj3v0F4
He got killas on his team
Real life goons that'll put ya to schleep
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>>75297
Man, why is edgy zoomer humor always the same fucking shit? They all use that ironic wink-wink, nudge-nudge subversion of expectations that you'd see in an nc17 avengers film. A generation of retards raised on Marvel movies and Disney+.
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>>75297
>attempt at ironic cringe
>is actually cringe
oops
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I wish my airsoft field had something like a 'singles table' to hangout at between games, my friend bailed on me for this weekend and I don't want to just sit in my car alone.
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>>75356
Just walk up to other people and say "hey dude, mind if I share this spot with you, my buddy couldn't make it" most dudes will be cool with the opportunity to make a new friend they share hobbies with
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>>75366
I think the thing to do is to try to strike up conversations with people naturally and see if you can hangout after the game. My field doesn't have many tables to begin with, mostly just parking spots.
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>>75366
From what I've seen most people are pretty autistic about talking about anything. I used to walk around before the game and look at what other people are using and if I saw something interesting I talked to them but no one really wanted to talk. Now I just hang around with the people I usually play
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>>75369
I dunno, I've played at more than a dozen fields in 4 states and it's rare I find someone that isn't friendly when you approach them. I know I'm old for the hobby, and I travel with friends and my kids, so maybe its just dad-energy or something, but I haven't had an issue making friendly contacts during airsoft and have found most people are thrilled to have a new person chat and joke with them
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>>75371
Must be just Eastern Europe, I guess
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>>75373
I gotcha, man. Well if you're ever in the Southwestern US, I'll let you hang out at our tables
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>>75379
None.
On a somewhat related note does anyone know where to find this Nike SB shirt?
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>>75356
Try wearing a short skirt. Soon you'll be needing to beat them back with a stick.
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>>75287
A taste of Column A and a taste of Column B. I mean, these guys aren't exactly rare or unique. They're dime-a-dozen sociopaths, and though they may SAY they're all different from each other, they all dress the same, talk the same, act the same, and think the same. They magdump the shit out of players as a form of expressing their mettle and noncomformity, despite all fitting neatly into the same stereotype of "edgy magdumper". They all even look the same, which is to say skinny nerds from the suburbs with loose parental boundaries, and they all spend too much time on the computer.

These guys are fucking everywhere and absolutely nothing makes them stand out from one another or makes them particularly special. If you got Cole N and threw him among the magdumpers that hang around my local field, I wouldn't be able to differentiate him one bit from any of the other guys that hang out there.
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>>75292
You gotta stand up to that shit and check them when they bully the more timid players; and no offense, but you gotta be at least halfway intimidating to do that, or else they'll just laugh. Lift some weights, go to an mma gym, don't break eye contact, literally just look like someone that they'd think twice about fucking with and stand up for the 12 year olds that can't stand up for themselves.

You know how fucking weak you need to be to pick on someone half your size and think you're badass for it? How can you pick on a fucking kid and unironically inflate your own sense of self worth that way? You don't even need to be aggro, just tell them not to magdump little kids, and if they get all uppity about it, calmly tell them you want to fight them in the parking lot and they'll pussy out like 90 percent of the time. The other 10 percent, make an example of them. Trust me, they can't fight and they know it. If they could fight, they wouldn't need to buy a thousand dollar polarstar to use against little kids to feel like they have some power for once in their lives.
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>>75425
Yeah we have no issue throwing down with people that need to be knocked down a peg. It usually doesn't end up needing to happen and nobody's had the stones to throw the first punch yet since any time it's gotten close they tend to get surrounded by 10-15 milsimmers and active duty who actually tend to care about their 1 rep max. The owner basically gives them a pass to do whatever they see fit since they're regulars who have been around for a decade, and if that means hauling some speedsofter out by his dye and showing him the bottom of the creek, so be it. The toughguy kids do a lot more whining and crying than actually throwing hands.
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>>75426
That's how you can tell they're massive pussies. Notice how they only pull that magdumping shit on people they KNOW are too timid to do anything about it? It's always little kids, other teenagers, bookish types, and mild-mannered victims. But notice how they NEVER pull that shit on the bigger dudes who look like they can take care of themselves? When they DO light up a bigger guy, it's almost always done from behind their backs, and then they mostly just say "N-No bro, I swear it wasn't me!", because they're too chicken shit to be upfront about it. If they were ACTUALLY hard they'd say something like "Yeah, I did it, do something about it", but they never fucking do.

They're fucking sociopaths, and they deliberately go for people who they know they can bully, but they submit quick as fuck around people who stand up for themselves.
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Played again today, and it was even more extreme than last time: you have retarded childen in hoodies, and extreme LARPers covered in complicated gear they don't need at all, very few people in the middle category of being into the game and wearing outdoorsy green clothes but not being faggots. During the game most people from both categories are completely spaced out and put no thought into tactics or strategy.
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>>75457
>put no thought into tactics or strategy
That's virtually all casual weekend games in my experience. The chaos can be fun, but if you tire of it look up filmsim events, if milsim is too autistic for your tastes.
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>>75463
I don't mean like having a complicated plan with a leader on a power trip, I just mean like "hey it would be more useful if you stood over there".
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>>74159
Got a Maxx hop up unit and too lazy to get a new air nozzle, can I just shave the one I have now? Or would that cause air seal problems?
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>>75468
You best be surgical with a dremel. Look for some YouTube bids on it and go for it!
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where do you guys get your inspiration for kits from? vidya or real life?
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>>75502
I started trying to run with what I had used when I was in the Marines, then I went with shit that looked cool with a CoD or even GI Joe aesthetic. Now I go more for a PMC/Glowie look like Jeffery Donovan had going in Sicario because then I can just use my older 5.11 khakis and shirts from work with a decent plate carrier and not look too terrible
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>>75502
Practicality with a small touch of historic inspiration. My "theme" is a former Rhodesian or South African soldier who became a mercenary after losing their country and becoming blackpilled. I basically just wear comfortable outdoorsy clothes in green and brown and carry whatever I want, since contractors just use whatever makes sense. I do wear a bush hat but that's about it for my "costume".
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My new gun has arrived.
>they said it would not come
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>>75595
congratz, make sure you lube it
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>>75595
reby
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>>75502
I just use my reservist gear army loaned to me.
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Any recommendations for russian kit sellers? Specifically looking for digital flora. Proper quality so not grayshop shit
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>>75672
>Any recommendations for russian kit sellers? Specifically looking for digital flora.
Here's a better suggestion; don't do bean kit.
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>>75672
>Russian kit

Cringe
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>>75723
>Cringe
how is it anymore cringe than dressing up as any other nation?
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>>74838
40% of pp buyers later regret that decision enough to kill themselves. A man's life might not be easy, but that's just your lot in life.
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>>75077
So? make your own review channel. R34P3R doesn't buy most of the review guns either. Seems like there is an open niche for you.
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>>75725
>Russia stronk
>nyet rifle is fine
>my rifle's name is Natasha/Sasha/Anastasiya
>squatting adidas slav
>cyka blyat
There's nothing wrong with a Russian loadout per se, it just seems to attract some real spergs.
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>>75731
Sounds like an american thing desu. In my country i very rarely see Russian kits, most dress up in our own country uniform/pattern with the standard M4 rifle. I find that incredibly boring so i was just looking for something else, and i think the digital flora pattern looks really cool. I wasn't even planning on using russian patches either i just wanted to know where i could source a good uniform from.
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Fellas, my gf wants to try airsofting and I need some help.
First of all, she has really thin skin and fields in my area allow 420 fps in cqb and up to 560 fps overall, so I need some ideas for full body protection that also wouldn't be too hot and look at least somewhat authentic
Second, she has bad eyesight(-3) and can't wear contacts, so I need some form of eye protection that will work with her prescription glasses.
I also don't want to spend too much money on all that, in case she doesn't like the game
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>>75741
First of all, where the hell are you in the world that you have a field where 560 FPS on a .20 is the standard for all guns? Or do you just mean an outdoor field with a very high limit on boltguns, which usually also come with a long-distance MED?
Secondly, and more relevant to your questions: For clothing, anything that covers significant amounts of skin and isn't too thin, she may need to deal with the heat if she's really that anxious about pain, and for glasses I've heard ESS Land Ops are great options to fit over most glasses, though I personally wear a paintball mask (for now) because my eyeglasses size is abnormally large and I didn't want to risk it - for most people though Land Ops seem fine
As for not wanting to spend too much money, there are plenty of budget options out there for various courses of action - I'd suggest a decent AEG of some sort, though I don't know what'd be best to recommend since I don't know what budget you're working with

I'm no expert, though, so maybe others will also have some helpful information to provide
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>>75741
Before you buy all kinds of shit for her maybe go in the backyard and shoot her at a distance where she wears some thick clothing to figure out if she’s okay with being shot at. It would suck if you got her all kitted out only to find out she doesn’t want to do it after being shot the first time
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newfag here i just impulse bought a CYMA m870 full metal shotty without ever playing airsoft
what to expect?
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>>74447
>More minorities and women
lol that will definitely make the sport grow
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>>75749
Welcome to the sport, you're in for a fun time
Spring tri-shots don't shoot significantly hard and usually don't have a significant enough hop-up to reach out extremely far, but they work great in CQB situations, especially if you practice with them - they aren't the most ideal things for every situation, and are usually outclassed by pistols and rifles for sustained fire, but they're more than capable of putting in work at close ranges if you know how to use them
If your local field is a CQB field, the thing can be very useful - if it's an outdoor or woodland field, you might run into problems involving how far the thing can reach out before gravity makes your BBs eat dirt, and it may be wise to invest in a rifle of some sort, preferably a decent AEG
Regardless, it's your first gun, and it's simple and effective for what it is - you could've definitely done a lot worse, lmao
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>>75751
Awesome lol I'll probably look into getting a sidearm because my nearest field is CQB but has a few outside sections
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>>75751
I've used tri-shots for like over 10 years and yes, everything here is spot on. The shotty is a great back up in case your AEG strips a gear or your HPA blows an o ring and you can't fix it in time for the next game.
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>>75743
Thanks for the eye protection suggestion, seems perfect, even if she doesn't like it I can use it.
Guns are not a problem, I have 5 of them, I think my Cyma AKSU will do fine as her first gun.
>>75746
We did that, but my most powerful gun has like 430 fps, it wouldn't represent accidentally getting shot point blank with a 560 fps VSR-10
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>>75759
Being allowed to be shot point blank with 560fps sounds insane.
Here it’s max 1.21 joule from 0-6m and that’s only with sidearm
And then from minimum 6 meters distance it’s full auto rifle to a max of 1.69j and if stronger it’s even further away and only semi
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>>75741
That's a tall order, esp the "I don't want to spend too much" part. Best advice I have is to get gear that *you* would use, so even if she bails, you have more gear that you spent on yourself. If she sticks around, she can buy her own custom loadout, preferrably something sexy.

I used to use this mask. Full face protection, flexible lower for cheekwelds, fits my glasses, has fan. Fan kinda sucks, but better than nothing.

Heat vs armor: you'll just have to choose. IMHO, if you protect the face (see above), you can ride out hits everywhere else. Harder time to explain why your face is bruised up the next day at work. "No, he didn't hit me! I-I-I got shot by BBs..."

>>75749
Your range is terrible. Your ROF is terrible. Expect to reload constantly, esp if you didn't buy lots of shells. Generally, you shotty *is* your backup. Not an unworkable situation, but expect an uphill climb.

t. I have 4 shottys. I main with an auto one.
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>>75731
That's why you don't hang out with beans. Normie RUSFOR is just as bad as normie NATO.
Get close to an RR chapter and do proper Russian kit and you won't have to deal with slavaboos.
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>havent been airsofting in years because everywhere i go people are using ridiculously strong shit that'll leave bruises through several layers of clothes despite the places having rules against it

This sucks guys... this isn't fun. Part of the reason I switched to airsoft from paintball was because I was tired of coming home like I just got done with a bar fight. What the fuck is wrong with these people? And it only has gotten worse as airsoft got more mainstream.
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>>75798
I don't know, man, I just don't know if airsoft is the sport for you. You're going to get hit, and it might leave a welt or two, but honestly, that's all part of the game. It's only really a problem when faggy teenagers deliberately overshoot you, or when a BB hits a particularly sensitive spot, like the neck or knuckles, but other than that, I don't know what else to say.
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>>74159
>Turkish nazi
Topkek
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>>75798
If it's blatantly above field rules then you should talk to a ref about it and have them do on the spot chrono
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>>75798
this is why hpa shouldn't be allowed because retards can't handle it and just turn up the juice on the field
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>>75774
I didnt really buy to sneedsoft and I did get extra shells I think my shotty'll do me fine until I find out if I like the sport
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>>75806
All fields have to do is make it so refs have to put a ziptie lock after Chrono
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>>75799
Shut the fuck up, you're the worst
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>>75873
Take a seat and tell me about all your problems, anon
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>>75831
In a perfect world that would happen, but i never seen that done
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>>75873
why would you post on this website if this is how you write lol
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>>75878
I've been to fields that used zipties for chrono and admission (one on your rifle and the other on your rifle, respectively. They'd usually do this for larger games with randoms that they weren't sure if they'd ramp up FPS. A cheap and functional solution. Even the Tippmann M4 has an upgrade rear receiver tournament lock pin that allows you to put a ziptie through it and not crack it open after you pass chrono.
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>>75920
One zip tie on your rifle and one on a boot lace, the Corona familiar got me misspelling shit
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>>75954
Yeah
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>>75955
How's the long one? I heard it had problems like the top rail being canted to a side and lots of other problems? This short one I have had problem with barrel being wobbly shit and the hand guard being extra wobbly before I hotglued shit to it so it cant move. And the fire selector became mushy after I installed mosfet to it.
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>>75954
I skirmished an M2 carbine today
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>>75958
Had to replace the hop unit and those plastic mags don't feed well if you load them all the way and other than it being UK spec and shooting at 100m/s it works alright. Got to upgrade it sometime, but when it's warm I run a GBBR. Only fielded it once this year and 5-6 times last year.
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>>75936
What is the boot ziptie for?
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>>75974
Shows that you actually paid for admission on that game day, that field was very popular when it was around
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>>76002
*wears rubber boots*

What now?
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>>74714
Shame gbbrs are hot fucking garbo and their mags cost more than a real mag full of 5.56.
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>>76036
Skill issue
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>>76022
Uhhh the only rubber boots I've seen have laces as well, soo you can just put the ziptie on them laces. Regulars would have like 7 zipties on their left boot and then the dude running the games would make people start snipping off the old zipties lolol
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>>76041
not my high speed low drag boots
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>>76042
The zip tie would go on the top rear loop, you gon get ZIPPED.com
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>>75954
Not me buy some of my guys have pieces of kit that are only known to exist in single digit numbers in private hands. Generally rare carriers or rigs.
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>>75806
>>75831
>>75878
If your field can't even require basic tourney locks for HPA I would be worrying about a lot more then just hot guns. My local field is pretty much run entirely off a voulenteer basis, with two guys organizing game days at a paintball field. They run registration, crono, and collect the money for entries to give to the field owners. So if two random dudes setting up on a folding table can properly crono between 25-50 players on any given day, and require tourney locks a field actually making money can as well.
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>>75954
I wish G&G still made a lot of their old cool shit. Now they just make retarded variations on AR15/10s

Been going through hell trying to find a G&G 553 which afaik they do actually still make.
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>>76094
Got that one too. They do older stuff in batches so you might get lucky but probly have to import from Taiwan or HK. The more niche stuff would benefit from slight updating too. The SIG hop up is pretty sucky and the fire sekectors and some other minor bits are made from quite brittle metal even when bigger parts are study as fuck.





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