How the hell is there no demand for a return of gladiatorial combat? Yeah I know HEMA exists, but I'm talking actual high-stakes bloodsport here. Nobody wants to see guys sword fight to near death?
Women ruined it.
Most gladiatorial bouts were staged and gladiators didn't actually die. It was the pro-wrestling of antiquity.
>>71876Tbh it's more realistic than people think. Actual deaths in professional gladiator combat were rarer than people realize, mostly due to Hollywood. Gladiators were both athletes and performers. They had a specialized skill set that took a lot of time and money to train properly. It wasn't in the interest of their owners to go killing them off by the bushel. Many gladiators became celebrities and lived pretty well. It wasn't that great for everyone of course and there were times when an Emperor brought back a bunch of slaves from a recent conquest and just made them fight to the death, but the general perception of gladiator combat as this fight to the death while the crowd called for blood was actually not true.
>>71876Insurance and liability. What retard would be willing to host it?
>>71876Cartels literally do it in Mexico.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre#Gladiator-like_killings
>>71879>spartacus were stagedyeah right
>>718791 in 10 gladiators would die in any given fight. Fights with higher prize money or that marked special occasions usually had guaranteed fight to the death.
I'm demanding it for what it's worth. The Dog Brothers out in California have a pretty cool full contact weapons fighting thing going on. It's pretty brutal.There's also this cool stuff in Russia:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3yvOkooYA
>>72038Damn that dog brothers stuff is brutal. These people are out of their minds to be taking shots to the head like that in just a fencing mask.
>>72038>dog brothers>bunch of old men flailing sticks and fake swords around at each otherkali and other Filipino martial arts are such a meme, yeah i'm sure they have a lot of toughness being able to constantly whack each other in the head with sticks but all this spinning bullshit just gets defeated by simple stabs and even sowing machine esque thrusts
>>71962Gladiators could and did die, but the fights were not life or death struggles one after another all day every day. It wasn't possible to efficiently run the arena that way and there was a lot of stage magic involved.Many fights had predetermined outcomes. One fighter would put something like a bloated organ filled with blood sourced from slaughtered livestock and hide it in his gear. The fighter intended to win would stab there, blow up the blood balloon, and the loser would "die". The "dead" guy would then come back later in a different outfit fighting under a new name.
>>72297>Many fights had predetermined outcomes. One fighter would put something like a bloated organ filled with blood sourced from slaughtered livestock and hide it in his gear. The fighter intended to win would stab there, blow up the blood balloon, and the loser would "die". The "dead" guy would then come back later in a different outfit fighting under a new name.Source? The fact that ive literally never heard about this before makes me assume youre pulling it out of your ass.
>>72303https://aginglikewine.com/did-roman-gladiators-fight-to-the-death/https://www.quora.com/Were-gladiator-fights-fakeBear in mind that given what we know about the Romans and their conscientiousness towards sanitation it's very suspicious that archaeologists have never dug up the expected burial plots for all of those dead gladiators with the expected wounds. A great deal of the confirmed gladiator remnants show evidence of having been killed with a knife instead of the weapons we believe were used in the actual fights.I don't believe that "most" fights were fake like the early anon claims, but they definitely got faker the higher up in the social ladder the fighters got when there was big money riding on the event or the reputation of some noble (even an Emperor).In other words it's a lot like boxing today.
>>72346Not boxing. That gladiator shit was old southern wrasslin. Straight up working the marks. Lucius is going over so Marcus has to get some color to sell the death angle. Then they send Marcus to Hispania and make him wear a helmet and work a new gimmick. Of course if you were a worthless slave good luck you are fighting bears and lions for real.
>>71877Well, there is that story about Roman matron running of to live with her gladiator.
>>71876You could always try bohurt/buhurt and risk getting a concussion or the occasional fracture. Not so much to near death though.
I don't see why someone doesn't do gladiator battles but with Indians or Chinese cause there's so many of them
>>72029I bet deaths in provincial arenas weren't that common, no way the ticket sales would cover the cost of multiple slaves being killed.
>>72630Especially with their best gladiators. They had to invest time and money into them. The stable managers weren't going to risk a guy that they spent time training and also feeding them good unless it was a special occasion.
>>71879based historical revisionist
Prisoners should be allowed to do it>any prisioner that has life or death sentence should be given the option >if you survive 10 gladiator fights you then receive 5 years of prison but its like scandi prison where its basically a hotel and you get rehab >if prisioners choose to participate and loose you get a $x that is left to your family or whatever None of this bullshit like some fags here are talking about (hurr nobody actually died) it would just be pure carnage.>everyone gets 1 week training with their weapon of choice>they all dress like Spartans from 300, so there can't be any fake shit, and to win you need to cut off the opponents head. People would love to see this. It would be huge. And after a few years once it becomes normal you can start doing shit like commodus did>Citizens of Rome missing their feet through accident or illness were taken to the arena, where they were tethered together for Commodus to club to death while pretending they were giantsOr like those other guys who just threw a heap of naked unarmed slaves in the arena to see how many of them ot would take to kill a lionThen you could do like family friendly days where there is no death its just heaps of plays and re enactments of cool battles from that time. The roman version of boxing was hectic aswell.>no weight class>you could wrap shit around your hand that had nails, glass and metal in them>fight to the death>doing it all for glory
>>72811>doing it all for gloryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeHzan4CJUo&list=PLCK3o2rCfZqjcdJna1SrUuWt6mnSAGcL3&index=3
>>72489Buhurt is loveBuhurt is life
>>72811>in order to get access to rehabilitation you have to cut 10 people's heads off in a fight to the death>you will be released in five yearsYou'd better pair that with mandatory concealed weapons for all citizens, then. Those guys are gonna be murder machines.
>>71877>Women ruined it.
>>72029>1 in 10 gladiators would die in any given fight. Fights with higher prize money or that marked special occasions usually had guaranteed fight to the death.Fights didn't have prize money dipshits. Gladiators were mostly slaves and the people who made the most money were there owner/managers, and they earned it from merchandise basically. Killing your cashcow is never profitable, especially a cashcow that you have to train a lot beforehand. A fighter dying is a lost investment for an owner, its a lot harder to earn money from a dead gladiator as you cant make them a fan favourite and book them for a fight. They did die occasionally but it wasn't usually intentional. If your fighters have a reputation of killing other fighters no other manager is going to want to put their fighter up against you, and if he does and the other fighter wins he may simply kill your fighter out of spite as under instruction from his owner trying to protect future investments. Also rematches are always big money. Dead fighters cant do a rematch