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Post-Olympics edition

Other jacketed wrestling styles welcome.

previous thread >>50439
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>>62177
What did /judo/ think of the olympics?
What were some of your favorite moments?
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>>62177
Judo will always be a meme until they allow leg locks/leg takedowns
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>>62190
the olympics ruined judo it would have been better with leg grabs. Get any wrestler, bjj or MMA fighter they would have have medaled in the ilympics.

No leg touch because of the olympics have meme a once good style
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>>62190
what a joke of a sport when you have the morbidly obese be promoted to black belt and be consider olympians
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>>62192
Wrestling and sambo will forever be a meme until they allow chokeholds.
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>>62207
chokes are allowed in sambo you can do anything in sambo its just MMA but with less rules.

Sambo and catch are probably the best styles to learn because they dont have restrictions and follow sport rules like other styles.
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>>62205
>Get any wrestler, bjj or MMA fighter they would have have medaled in the ilympics
medaled in olympic judo? you're out of your fucking mind lmao
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>>62190
>posts bitches
Fuck off beta faggot.
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>>62206
>Martial art intended in part for self-defense works even if a student is a fat.
>Somehow this is bad.
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>>62217
i post what i want, bitch
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>>62192
No one seems to say this bullshit about Greco-Roman even though the ruleset is even more restrictive. I'm not a fan of the leg grab ban but this complaint from people who don't watch or train judo is so tired. I'm betting if they brought back leg grabs 99% of people who parrot this opinion online still wouldn't join the sport in any meaningful way.
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>>62208
Combat Sambo sure, the ultimate style for transitioning to MMA and it's not particularly close. There are actually some restrictions in combat sambo such as no heel hooks or cranks and spine locks, but how free-form it is otherwise makes up for that.

But sport Sambo has just as many arbitrary restrictions as judo. No closed guard, no chokes, no rotational leg locks, some arm bars are banned, and flying submissions are also illegal. Allowing straight leg locks is cool but it's hardly Judo unleashed. It's just another ruleset. If you're interested in grappling primarily then "just do combat sambo" is not only unrealistic unless you're an Eastern bloc citizen, but it's really not everyone's cup of tea. I'm not ashamed to admit I don't find it fun to get punched and kneed in the face.
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>>62227
nah bro judoka...i mean judo players...can't defend against a double leg, shit martial art

But seriously, people should watch sport sambo and see how many leg take downs are attempted
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>>62222
Yes....like the beta faggot you are, bitch.
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>>62222
>posting more bitches

Fucking kill yourself already, faggot.
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>>62177
Judo's great.....until you start getting punched and elbowed in the head.
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>>62234
little bitches still crying
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>>62177
Sup, I was wondering if yall can give me a quick rundown on some shit. I wanted to get into judo and while researching I was reading a post on plebbit saying that the "newer rules of judo is killing the art" and that "freestyle judo" should be the future of the sport. Can someone redpill me on this? I don't know jack shit.
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>>62251
That very discussion is playing out in this thread. In my experience it's more of an internet thing though. Don't get me wrong, there are serious judoka who have various problems with the rules and the importance of the Olympics to the sport and art itself. But online you will tend to hear this narrative that Judo is "dying" due to the 2010 regulation banning moves that involve grabbing the legs. So a simple double or single leg is now illegal in the most popular ruleset. I don't agree with this rule but rumors of Judo's decline are greatly exagerrated. In reality it's only really dying in the USA and it was doing so before the leg grab ban. This decline also aligns pretty neatly with the rise of BJJ and MMA in America which lends credence to the aphorementioned narrative. Ineffectual governing bodies, greed, and a lack of state support compared to other judo countries have far more to do with it than leg grabs. Judo is alive and well throughout most of the world and last I checked is the 2nd most popular martial art in the world, just shy of Tae Kwon Do.

As far as freestyle Judo, it barely exists. If you have a group near you that's into it then cool, but the overwhelming majority of Judo clubs in the world train Olympic.
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>>62236
Can't really punch or elbow if they control your arms
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>>62256
So I shouldn't worry about that shit right if im brand new right. Im also wondering what's best for me if so. There's an olympic judo place near me called universal judo. There's also another bjj focused place that has judo classes near me as well.
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>>62315
Not him but all that was mentioned applies to competition judo and unless your a kid with potential or are looking to compete it shouldn't apply to you. Your instructor should be able to teach you the full judo curriculum, leg grabbing techniques included. Now on which dojo to go to, outside of proximity and cost considerations, pick the instructor that had more accolades.
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>>62236
Silly schizo, that's where judo begins
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>>62315
Universal Judo in San Antonio? That's one of the best judo gyms in the country and has some international medalists training there.
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>>62318
Maybe things are different where you're at but my exposure to illegal moves has been pretty limited. Maybe you'll do it in kata and your sensei will show it to you but never in randori. So you never really get any good at it.

I also think it's super important for everyone to compete if they're physically able. And again, 99% of the time that's IJF/Olympic rules so it's not irrelevant if you're a hobbyist.
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About the leg grab debate: No matter what you train with, a lot of things are exchangeable between grappling martial arts. Stance, balance, grip/handfighting... It is not like you are going to be an absolute amateur coming from a Judo background then starting Wrestling, MMA, CSW...
As anon said, nobody disses Greco-roman that hard and the ruleset is many times worst. Freestyle wrestlers got guillotined, triangle choked, by droves in the early MMA/Vale Tudo matches and no one is complaining that hard about Freestyle.

Judo, olympic ruleset, has its problems just like every single martial art. If you pick one of those Boxing vs Muay Thai videos you will see that single legs are a million times less threatening to a judoka than a leg kick is to a boxer, and no one ever stopped recommending boxing even after K-1 started airing worldwide.

As the general rule of modern martial arts is cross-train, if you feel like training something, Judo is a great option because it gives you the most rounded game between all massively available options, even with the current ruleset.
Afterwards you can just do like every single fighter ever nowadays and just add some Freestyle classes to improve you leg grab game, add some BJJ classes to get more ground finesse, find some Catch guy and ask for some hellhook tips, etc. Just like 100% of the competitive guys in either cage fighting, either ADCC style competition, do.
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>>62239
>this beta faggot

LoL kys already pussy.
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>>62287
Can't really control somebodies arms when your head
is being beaten like a beta male in county lockup....
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>>62388
Oddly specific
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>>62192
Honestly I disagree. The leg grab ban ended up making it a far more upright grappling style, which is 100% a good thing, and makes for a more interesting sport
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>>62391
except that shit doesnt work in a real fight look at BJJ or MMA they all wrestler and that is all leg grapping. You never see judo used in EBIs or Abu Dhabi
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>>62394
>except that shit doesnt work in a real fight look at BJJ or MMA
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>>62389
Yet true...
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>>62394
>except that shit doesnt work in a real fight
>look at BJJ

>BJJ
>real fight
oi I am laughing
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>>62391
There were some unfortunate victims though like te and kata guruma.
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>>62406
and 2 years after the ban kata gurama evolved into a no leg grab varian that introduced wrestling sit out motions into judo's meta. and siting out is a useful maneuver for any grappling scrambling and seeing it fused into a judo technique shows the intelligences and creativity of judo players
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>>62387
>crying a day later
pathetic little bitch LoL
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Anyone else struggle with sprained joints? (mainly ankles and big toes in my case)
How do you cope? I use some tapes and try to just ignore the pain, but unwillingly it always keeps me from committing fully to each technique. I know some drugs are really good at allowing you to ignore pain, but I don't want to go this way.. and this shit just doesn't ever heal (I've had multiple-month periods of rest from judo and the joints just got quickly re-fucked once I started sparing again).
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>>62206
apparently she's doing something right because she got a bronze medal at the highest tier of competition of the sport while you're a literally who < green belt
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>>62463
I do. Weightlifting, yoga, and resistance bands helped with some of my joints that were dislocated (shoulder and hip). It took over a solid year of consistent work to get them decent again. Shoulder is still tricky and takes a lot of warming up. Rest alone wont prevent the next injury. Progressive overload with weights will. You just gotta be really careful.
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What are some beginner advice for grappling and throwing?
I don't mean techniques I mean shit like lifting your leg to shift the weight when throwing someone and other things that would help someone that is just grappling recreatively.
For the record I'm not a larper trying to learn a grappling art through the internet. I'm a kickboxer and my gym closed because of covid. So right now I'm just sparring with a friend of mine from the same gym, and since we're mostly fooling around till we find somewhere else to train we do some grappling for fun even though none of us has experience with it. I suppose we're smart enough not to do anything too dangerous like piledriving.
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>>62495
as a kickboxer one cross over that grappling provides for you is clinch entries and pummeling. So as a kickboxer you should expierment how your combos and strikes can lead you into the clinch. The next big step is not just resting or waiting for the break but seeing how your hands and different gripping position can help lead into elbows, knees or low kicks from the clinch.


The other major aspect where striking principals cross over is kick catching. With a striking background you should have better eyes and reflexes in seeing and catching kicks. This will lead into your partner being on one leg, and you can and should investigate in thai style foot sweeps and dumps and also wrestling style single leg finishes since wrestling has an entire catalog of techniques of finishing a takedown with an opponent standing on one leg.

Summary

*striking into clinch
*clinching and pummeling/grip fighting into knees/elbows
*MT foot sweeps.dumps
*single leg takedown finishes
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Lanklet bros how do I do cross-body osoto without giving my opponent the opportunity to bomb me with ura nage.
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>>62789
By off balancing them onto the leg you plan on reaping like youre supposed to. They cant suplex you while standing on one leg.

Additionally, if youre tall bending youre knees while keeping your back straight to lower youre center of balance will make you much more difficult to resist.
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hot take, anime fights are more fun to watch and have better choreography
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>>62989
You love to see it. Fuck drop seoi
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>>62989
>>62655
These are beautiful
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>>62251
Freestyle judo is a ruleset that's practiced by like a dozen people in Texas and Oklahoma. It would be fun if you stop by and there happens to be an event, but I wouldn't go out of my way for it. You're more likely to find Sambo competitions desu.
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Why is tai-otoshi so hard?
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>>62190
>What did /judo/ think of the olympics?
The Russian chick who got elbowed in the head and was sporting a massive goose egg on her right eye, had something like 35 minutes of Golden Time throughout the repechage, and got choked unconscious but still came back to win bronze, was my favorite storyline of the event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azDuK8OPCtM

Well, that, and Japan getting its shit pushed in by France in the mixed.

Now, a question from someone who did a fair bit of Judo up until my mid 20s, but who's been out of anything resembling competitive Judo for over a decade and a half. What the hell is with the terrible Seoi Nages? The lighter weight categories, in particular, seem to have devolved into repeated attempts at a shoulder throw from *well* outside, and are done without even a cursory *attempt* to break the opponent's balance first. It's just a rotation over the shoulder, and if you don't pull your opponent down with you, it's basically just a drop. When the hell did this start happening?

On a related note, what the hell is it with the incredibly poor abilities of this year's Judoka (as a whole) on breaking balance in the first place? One would start shifting to the right, and the other person would shift to the right in response, and instead of the first person reversing the flow in order to create a point where balance can be broken, they both keep moving in the same direction and the pass becomes almost entirely a strength-on-strength match, instead of exploiting leverage. Not *everyone* did this, but it was ridiculously common, and when I was training trying to out outmuscle your uke to make your technique work would be called "bad judo". What the actual fuck HAPPENED while I was gone?
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>>64886
as someone who competes on the national level, and with all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. The seoi nage entries you are seeing in the lightweight division are on a level you can't comprehend, and the basic judo fundamentals which you espouse (why aren't they breaking balance??) are very present in the matches, but on a level that is clearly not visible to you. Ignoring the complexities of player matchups, gripping sequences, micro adjustments of position and weight distribution, it's clear that you aren't aware of even the most basic things these competitors are doing. Yet you speak as if you're superior... a hobbyist criticizing athletes who have dedicated their entire lives, 6-7 days a week, training for this event. You are the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
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redpill me on pulling guard in judo
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>>65362
>it's all on a level you can't comprehend
>just trust me
Show, don't tell, anon.
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>>64886
That other guy's a cunt. Pay no attention.

What you're seeing is essentially a sportification of the martial art. There's essentially no meaningful reason not to drop into a throw attempt, because judges rarely call fouls for dropping, and when you're light it's easy to get back up, and it's easy to defend on the ground of up don't pull off the throw.

There's more, but I don't have time for it right now. I'll check back in with a thread in a bit and see if I can give you a longer answer. You arent the only person who is seeing that in competitions by a long shot.
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>>65437
Pretty sure it's completely illegal. You'll get a shido at the very least for timidity. A particularly brutal judge might even count it as ippon.
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>>65455
>>65437
If you fake a sacrifice throw and then pull guard you should be fine.

It is bitch shit, though
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>>65458
>pulling guard
%100 pussy shit
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I'd love to see nogi judo or some sort of judo/bjj/sambo with gi pants but rashguard shirt (no jacket with easy handles)

why? I'm wearing a t-shirt with blue jeans and a belt. Most days I do this.

>>66191
Everyone masturbates.
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I'm a little confused about the gripping rules as they relate to bodylock throws like ura-nage: can you just throw them with a gable grip or s-grip, or do you need to be holding the gi/belt?
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>>62239
>this beta faggot
kys already bitch.
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>>66549
What is wrong with you
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>>66549
Imagine being such a seething autist you REEE about the existence of womens sports for like a month straight
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What do you guys think about beach sambo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjs17KtdO6Q
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I don't understand why everybody's being focused on self defense when talking about judo these days. You're literally weak as shit if you absolutely need to attend classes to fight in the streets. Just appreciate the lifestyle and stfu
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>>66772
Spiking people into the ground head first is fun. Sure you may catch a charge but it's worth it just to see some nigger flail around like a fish out of water.
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I'm a bit confused about the difference between ogoshi and uki-goshi. Is the difference entirely in whether your legs are in a narrow squatting position or not?
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>Why yes I'm a kata-guruma specialist, how did you know?
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>>66208
Sumo
Grab at the waist or wedgie your opponent real hard
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>>62315
>>62345
Second what this anon said about Universal Judo. Go in and ask Nina how competing in the Tokyo Olympics were.
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Ashi-waza is a really hard for me. I feel like I never score with it, and it's never threatening enough to condition for my turn throws
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>>66538
You can gable but, if you do you have to throw immediately.
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What makes judo so fun?

I've dabbled in BJJ and Sambo, but I just like judo the most.
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Been back to training after like 2 years due to rona
Damn feels good. Already got a sprained ankle but I regret nothing.
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>>66208
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Have limited time. Would I see more improvement focusing on strength training during my free time? Or doing more technical work (training band uchikomi, footwork, shadow randori)?
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I've been really having fun with Georgian grip stuff and yoko tomoe nage lately.

What techniques are you practicing and having fun with lately?
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>>68414
Sweeps. People really dont expect clean sweeps.
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Is no-one watching the Zagreb Grand Prix? It's being broadcast on YouTube
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>>68649
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>tfw actually threw someone with uki-otoshi
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>>62192
Leg locking is fag shit, leg takedowns I understand
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>>68951
I like what leglocks add to sambo's ground game, which any inclusion of leglocks into newaza would more closely resemble - because sambists (like judoka) can't take their sweet time on the ground like bjj guys can.

And as far as safety is concerned, kneebars and straight ankle locks, which are basically the only ones allowed in sambo, are relatively easy to tap too and have a margin of error closer to armbars than heelhooks do.
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>>68781
Based.
This was a personal highlight, might be one of the slickest juji-gatames I've seen in a while:
https://twitter.com/995dim/status/1441765151137468417
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>>62402
>voldo_soul_calibur_gameplay.gif
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What should a novice take into account when acquiring a judogi? In terms of material, price, etc. I'm curious about trying judo, but it seems that I'd need to get the proper apparel before doing a test and I'd like to know whether the test drive is worth it or not.
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>>69266
Just buy a fuji double weave. Any dojo will loan you a gi though while you try things out.
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>>62206
>being big works in fighting
whoa.... what a joke of a sport... fighting should be banned from the Olympics
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>>62387
>>66549
samefag insecure tard
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seriously what do you do when someone just bends down and double-stiff arms you?
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After training last week I had a terrible back pain and couldn't even walk the next day.
Had an MRI and just found I've got herniated disc and spondylosis. I'm 34 and the doctor said it' very likely I'll have to quit judo.
Well, it was nice while it lasted. Feeling like shit tho.
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>>69359
Snap down arm drag foot sweep. Belt grip sumi or ouchi. Double sleeve maki.
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What does /judo/ think about ura-nage?
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What is the judo scene like around New Orleans?

I'm probably going to be moving there for work from Texas, which I think has one of the better scenes in the US. If there's barely any judo, I might just move to bjj.
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>>64886
>On a related note, what the hell is it with the incredibly poor abilities of this year's Judoka (as a whole) on breaking balance in the first place
Internationaly most judoka do not study the craft like other sports study there craft.They are mostly concerne with gripfighting etc.The logic is...You will never be as good as an Japanese so why try......
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Guys what lifts help with judo? I read something somewhere about kettlebell swings and most importantly cable shoulder pullovers. Anything else?
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>>70048
deadlifts a must. front squats, presses
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>>70048
Squats, explosive rows, rear delt & shoulder mobility work. Obviously, you want to work your posterior chain, but imo strong quads are more important for staying uninjured than strong hamstrings.

As an oddball, I like floor pressing more than benching. It's more sport specific to newaza and it's easier on the shoulders.
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>>70335
Too slick. Wouldn't even be mad if I took that shit.
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My girlfriend is really into judo. Her first tournament is this Saturday, and I want to give her something judo related as a present. Do you guys have any ideas?
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>>70801
Clinch with her at random to hone her skills like Ronda Rousey's mom did.
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>>70801
depends on how much you're willing to spend and obviously what her personality is like.
but for the memes and practicality: athletic tape.
for an actual present:
rashguard, there are plenty of good judo books, maybe a poster of kano or other judo artwork / trinkets, a gi bag since she's competing if she doesn't already have one, a judo t-shirt from somewhere and uh athletic tape.
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>>62177
Why is osoto otoshi so unpopular compared to osoto gari? It seems like a much safer option because you're not instantly screwed if countered. Also, otoshi works better against people who never skipped leg day.
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>>62177
Does anybody know the name of a technique similar to seoi nage but with one hand going behind the opponent's neck? I've seen it a few times in no-gi matches but I was unable to look up the details.
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>>62177
Hey guys, I haven't talked to anyone in 2 years and my personality is slowly fading away, but I'm still passionate about wanting to do Judo in my life. I'm sort of scared to go or even call and set up a appointment, how was your first time at the gym like? Awkward? How long did it take for everyone around you to get used to you?
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>>70852
>how was your first time at the gym like?
I almost missed the place. I did breakfalls, some tumbling, osoto-gari drills, sparring with more experienced guys, and then rope climbing as a warm down.

>Awkward?
A bit. Not only are you new, but everyone else is probably going to actually kick your ass

> How long did it take for everyone around you to get used to you?
A few weeks
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>tfw got outgripped and dabbed on by an upper belt
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>>71020
Yeah that's what is supposed to happen. I would be concerned if a less experienced lower belt was dabbing on the upper belts. Either you have a genius on your hands or the coaching is shit.
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is 25 too late to start judo?
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>>71344
no go train
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>>62177
toribash
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Paris Grand Slam is on Youtube rn lads
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>>70801
>>70805
>there are plenty of good judo books
This, go for Kodokan Judo, it's an essential read for enthusiasts
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I've been really enjoying kata guruma, bros. I may have found my tokui waza.
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>>71467
Te guruma is that gangster shit.
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>>71471
Even if the grip sequences are weird, I just enjoy kata guruma more than drop seoi.
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reposting from martial arts general because I didnt know there was a judo general... Im new to judo and have some questions

is wearing a blue gi as a level 1 slime cringe? I want a second gi so I dont have to wash mine multiple times a week, but no one really wears a blue gi at my gym and I dont want to look like a fag

how long does it take to learn a move properly, and should I just focus on 1 move until Ive got it down even if it takes weeks/months, or learn multiple at once?

I have a powerlifting background and am stronger tham most people at my gym. I find I can just use raw strength to beat people more skilled than me. but if I do this Im just learning shitty technique. how do I stop doing this?
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>>71534
>blue gis
Blue gis are part of the sport. Most people like to train in white, but blood is harder to get out. You also want to have a gi in both colors for competitions, although they usually have sashes if the competitors have the same colored gi.

>how long does it take to learn a move properly, and should I just focus on 1 move until Ive got it down even if it takes weeks/months, or learn multiple at once?
You need to know a couple moves to really be doing judo. A lot of the art and sport is how takedowns flow into each other and having options for your opponents actions and reactions. At a basic level, you need a back throw and a forward throw, which is why the first things you learn will typically be osoto-gari and ippon seoi nage.

>strength
Strength will always be a part of any grappling sport. My advice is not to take randori so seriously and relax and play.
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>>71553
thanks. Ive bought 2 extra white gis. I'll get a blue one when I decide to compete

>which is why the first things you learn will typically be osoto-gari and ippon seoi nage
these are the 2 throws we've been shown so far. should I just focus on getting good at those for now in your opinion? how long do you think it will be before I can do them properly in randori?
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>>70852
>How long did it take for everyone around you to get used to you?
A few weeks for most people, about a year for hardasses that have seen many people come and go because the turnover rate in judo is honestly very high.
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>>70812
I'm mudansha so take what I say with a grain of salt, but as an osoto player I usually have to hop to break the balance and take whatever is there. It feels like its usually the one leg and not both.
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>>71563
Osoto is the first throw you learn but it's far from the easiest to pull off live. Standing seoi nage is also pretty straightforward to learn, but hard to do in practice. It's why in competition, most people throw seoi nage from their knees. In my opinion, the most complimentary technique for ISN is kouchi makikomi because they start off the same grip and you only need one arm on the guy to start.

Most people gravitate towards one of the main turn throws - seoi nage, tai-otoshi, or uchimata - and a favorite ashi-waza - often osoto or ouchi. They can often do many more, but their focus for competition is a handful of techniques that they like and work for their gameplan.
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Guys theres a judo gym near me that ive gone to a couple times but theyre more interested in competition, and im more interested in no-gi/mma. should i just train there or go straight to bjj
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>>71585
go to an mma gym
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>>71611
That was one hell of an ushiro goshi, and the French crowds are great
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>>71365
>crowds are back
nice
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>>62192
The rules make judo spectacular, but safe, which is nice.

>>62217
(You)
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>>62208
catch is bad
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>>69396
Go to a sports physio and get their opinion. Doctors always tell people to quit sports when you get injured.
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>>69461
I'm sceptical about sacrifice throws except tomoe nagi. Used to intercept such moves a lot, barely have got thrown with any of it by an opponent of the same weight.
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>friend says she wants to quit judo
>too autistic to integrate with other members of the club
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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accidentally showed up to class early and had to make small talk with normies. suicidal rn
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>>72247
throw them
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>>72204
get thrown until something impresses you or shakes you out of it
ask about pointers on their nice throw
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>>72256
I can talk to people on the mats fine, but when we're off the mats they want to talk about normie shit. I made this post too >>72247 some guy made small talk with me until his friends came. then some girls at next to me and talked to each other, then kept looking at me. I think they were expecting me to join it, but I just went on my phone until class started
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Anybody watching old man judo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv8AqCxxGP4
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>>72281
Actually, a friend of my coach was competing
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>>72388
gives me hope to still compete at that age
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So does anyone ever use hane goshi in competition?
Some people say that goshi uchi mata is basically hane goshi, but let's be honest, that's not how we learn hane goshi and we are still calling it uchi mata.
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>>69461

Love it. When up against big dudes, I like to dip my shoulder to bait them into reaching for a big over the back grip, thrn launch them with ura nage.
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is anyone else here an excessive sweater? how do you manage with judo during summer?

I sweat way too fucking much and I feel bad for everyone I have to train with
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what are good throws for someone who is very strong, but also short, to learn?
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>>72644
Bring towels with you and wipe the mats down.
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How do you get good at ashi-waza?

I feel like my ashi-waza are below average for my skill level, and good ashi-waza gives more dimensions to my game
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>>62205
>Get any wrestler, bjj or MMA fighter they would have have medaled in the ilympics.
Unbelievably retarded post. Fuck me dead
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>>71344
nah nigga, 35 isn't too late, 25 certainly isn't LOL
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>>72890
What's your height? You have to remember most opponents are sub 1.5m (sub ~5 feet), like gray aliens. Only some of the reptilians are tall/heavy. So very often the problem is height/weight disparity, you can't seoi nage a gray, it's meaningless. Honestly the best way to get better at judo is to have good kuzushi and to be able to resist psychic attacks by aliens, as these are by far the most consistent attack they use. With good kuzushi you'll be able to improv something no matter the type of alien you're fighting. Though it's probably too late, considering that a solar flare is coming and that's when they're planning their attack.
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is there an untested federation for people on steroids similar to powerlifting? I dont want to be a cheater...
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>>73107
Amateur tournaments are not tested. I don't think the typical Judo hobbyist is a roider. You won't see drug testing until you get to competitive nationals level tournaments. Which you probably won't be going to, no offense.
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>>73107
IBJJF
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signed up for my first comp
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>>72678
Koshi waza is the short mans game
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What do you think of USA Judo's "judo submission grappling" exhibition? https://www.instagram.com/p/CV1cfHzLOmf/
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>>73805
The way in its purest form, we must portect them at all costs
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>>66903

Uki-goshi is when the person is pulled over your hip, O-goshi is when you lift someone with your hip to throw
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Does your dojo teach these double let takedowns?Morote gari
Kata guruma
Kuchiki taoshi
Kibisu gaeshi
Sukui nage
Obi otoshi
Obi tori gaeshi
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>>73842
I feel like kata guruma where you swing uke's arm to their belly is easier to pull off than a classic one simply because you don't have to change your grip.
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>>62364
Yeah, most martial art places that teach judo implement bjj techniques as well. Where I train we go to both judo and tkd tournaments.

My instructor did mma for a few years and he likes to incorporate his ground techniques into our training
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>>62177
Is that a tooth flying out of his mouth?
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So I'd love to learn Judo but there are no schools with in 200 miles of me, what can I do? Is there any way to effectively learn on my own?
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>>74124
bjj
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>>69359
just push towards the ground and strangle with the lapel.
>>62192
Unskilled lazy fingers of a retard who can't into technique typed this. Thank God those aren't allowed anymore. Just watch and see how much better competition judo looks now.
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>>74181
I'd like to see classic kata-guruma, te-guruma, and stuff like uchimata->ankle pick and kouchi->ankle/knee pick back

I think that's as simple as allowing leg-grabs so long as a grip on the jacket has been established. We don't want a return of 08-09.
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>>74111
athletic tape
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>small injury so cant go hard in randori
>fight smug portuguese faggot who thinks hes a male model or some shit
>"be more aggressive bro"
>acts rude as fuck after
fuck I cant wait until next session when I can go hard and drop his shit skin head
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Joined my university's judo club last month. Was shocked in how difficult it was. 2 hours of non stop workout. Had to sit down my first class and in the second I vomited in the bathroom. Everybody was pretty nice to me, I'm an out of shape. And although I'm getting better Im still the absolute worst one in class and can tell people are getting frustrated with my presence. Nobody wants to sparr with me anymore because I gas out quick and I can just see a general feeling of disapproval.
I'm trying as hard as I can. After today's class the sensei told me not to show up to this joint training session we're having with another school.
I have never felt so much shame and disappointment with myself. I don't know why my body can't keep up with the others. I'm not overweight or have medical problems. 5 years of NEET lifestyle is catching up with me.
I also haven't successfully thrown or submitted anybody in any sparring sessions. It's 2 hours of dying and getting my ass kicked.
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>>75007
Ok, relax.
What is the level of people there? If they're all black blets you wont win against them in a long time.
Try to run/exercise outside of judo to build cardio.
Joint training session can be very rough, keep on regular session.
Even if poeple don't want to spar with you, you are a member of the club, they have to take time with you.
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>>75007
going from a sedentary life to exercise can be jarring. I remember when I first started exercising how difficult it was for me to run for more than a few minutes at a time. it's just a matter of sticking it out, training consistently and remembering everyone is absolutely shithouse at the start
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>>75007
Stick with it, you'll probably have an epiphany after a year, and things will start to make sense
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Im a noob. what do I do when fighting someone doing this stance? I cant get my short legs in to hook or get my hips close to their centre of mass to throw. when I try to lull them they just waddle along
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>>75242
In competition this is called defebsive posturing and will get them penalized. Practucally though just start snapping down hard until they fall on their face. Alternatively, grab over top onto their belt and throw obi tori gaeshi.
https://youtu.be/zdzuZopr2pM
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>>75246
thanks, I will try this next time. it was black belts doing this tho. why would they do soemthing illegal?
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>>75252
I dont know your school. Are they moving in and out of that position quickly? If so thats not something theyd get penalized for. If theyre just hanging out there you might be in a shitty club.
>stand up and fight like a man
Thats what my senseis taught me to maintain my posture. Judo is all about posture and balance.
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>>75252
>>75269
I should clarify too that when my coaches are hanging out in a bad position its usually because theyre trying to get me to do something. If youre unsure of what your coaches are trting to teach you, ask them. They might make it.more clear.
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>>75269
>>75272
it was at my teachers teachers club and the guy who runs it is apparently a national champion. I'll ask my teacher tomorrow at practice. I dont know what they would want me to do, I havent been shown what to do when my opponent is being that defensive. other than just pull them towards me, but they were too well balanced for that to work
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>>75273
They could be looking to see what you'll do with your grips and how you deal with an overly defensive posture. As an intimidating looking heavyweight, people often adopt this posture with me, I'll always take a high collar grip and pressure them down, it then gives them the choice of either fighting to posture back up, or letting themselves get face planted into the floor.





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