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I want to go to venezuela ,a certain island of the country where they have "lucha canaria", a folk style of wrestling.should I first train judo,or greco-roman.before i embark on canarian folk wrestling?
>>60931Can you guys please tell me the secrets to cutting weight correctly for a bout? How much can you cut for one? Do you bulk as much as possible after the weigh in?Please guys, this actually got me in serious trouble in a tournament not doing this shit correctly. I'm tired of other people looking like they're 30 pounds heavier than me at match time and losing on strength and weight but not talent.
Is aiki-jujutsu still taught in the west?>yes,i DO know judo pwned the old jujutsu on those inter-school matches. Im looking for harmony and spiritual health,not to crush heads
>>60940Learn about periodization training and apply the same theory to cutting weight. You seem like a simp so I will spell it out for you; you need to cut well below target weight a couple weeks before your target tournament, and then build back up to target weight with an appropriate amount of rest and reduced training going in to tournament day. If you are self-coached or your coach is shit and doesn't know this stuff already, you may need to accept that your short term ambitions are unrealistic without spending a lot of money on better coaching.
>>60937I'm gonna say Greco-Roman because those guys are all extremely scary.
Thinking about starting some grappling next week; plan was 3 hours BJJ, 2 hours Judo and 3 hours wrestlingThoughts?
No-gi or gi BJJ? The only no-gi classes I have available to me interfere with wrestling
>>60941>>yes,i DO know judo pwned the old jujutsu on those inter-school matchesActually Judo lost more than it won. Exception is the match at Yayoi shrine, which is the one match that got publicized the most because Judo won... is what I want to say, but the truth is that people can't agree on what even happened..Basically, there were 3 matches:1. Kano and his guys against some guys from "Tshiba" (?) in the aula of Tokyo uni. The match is basically unknown outside Germany, since it was, to my knowledge, only described by the guy who made Japan aware of Jiu Jitsu in the first place in modern times: Dr. Erwin Baelz, the German personal doctor for the Japanese Tenno co-founder of modern western medicine in Japan, who tried and succeeded in making the Jits accepted by modern Japan in the first place.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_BälzSo, yes, among things like cars, planes, fridges and toothpaste, you may also thank Germans for Jiu Jitsu and Judo. You're welcome. Anyway, this match ended with a complete loss for Kano and his pals.2. First, read this wiki article (which also doesn't mention Baelz' account).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodokan–Totsuka_rivalry1886. Another match lost by Judo. In this case, Newaza (goundfighting) was the culprit, leading Kano to specialise in it more. 3. This is the Yayoi Shrine match of 1888 that everyone knows. Judo allegedly won overwehlmingly, although it is not clear who fought whom, how many matches there were, what rules there were and how many losse/wins/draws there were. Some losses were avenged in later matches.All in all, it's all very shady, but then again, that's Japanese martial arts for you. I was about replacing Jiu Jitsu with Judo for a less occult, more modern/scientific direction, which was done in Japan, but not in Germany, where the pure self-defense "NHB" Jiu Jitsu flourished until after the loss of WW2 when it was banned by the Allies. It seems to be lost now anyway.
>>61069What the hell are you talking about with Balz. The article only mentions that he introduced Judo to Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKeXekbRvx8Thoughts on illegal stuff the guy's doing? Like knee drops on a dude's sternum, etc? I feel like it should be taught even if banned in competitions.
>>61078Guy seems like a shithead lol he's just way bigger and stronger and throwing these guys on their ass. Anyway, his dirty moves aren't in the curriculum but it doesn't take a genius to figure out landing with an elbow in their ribcage or using your knee to apply pressure. The chief problem with shit like that is that no one is going to want to drill it with you. It's pretty easy to just decide to do a throw the mean way against someone you don't like. Probably don't need different reps for it anyway. Just learn the move clean so you can do it dirty if need be.
>>61079I think it was a training session, not an actual challenge. He does seem like a shithead but that type of thing seems to be more "martial" than the sports-based stuff most gyms offer. >it doesn't take a genius to figure out landing with an elbow in their ribcage or using your knee to apply pressure.True, but how do you know where to pressure or if it will work? I'm not even sure getting armbarred, getting up and dropping the guy armbarring you on his head is going to work before he breaks my arm. Same thing here.>The chief problem with shit like that is that no one is going to want to drill it with you. Honestly I'm not sure it's any worse than being thrown. I remember training at a cramped gym and I kept getting sprains and tears because I had to avoid falling on people and kneeing their jaw accidentally.
>>61083>but how do you know where to pressure or if it will work?Fair, although these examples are kind of "low percentage" anyway. They basically work as long as your opponent isn't tough. The most reliable thing to do, if that's what you're looking for, is doing it properly. "Good Judo" in other words. >Honestly I'm not sure it's any worse than being thrownAlso fair lol. But in my experience people react really negatively to the painful stuff. I remember my Judo coach taught me exactly 1 guard opening before I had to stop going, which was an elbow to the inner thigh and putting pressure on that nerve until they broke. My first session rolling at a BJJ gym I was informed by the brown belt that it was considered very bad manner, on the level of like a can opener, and politely asked that I not do it in the future. I get that in principle. People are there to have fun and get good, these dirty win-at-all-costs move aren't super welcome in training. Your best bet is probably finding a like minded group of guys at the gym who want to learn every trick regardless of how honorable it is.
>>61071I'm sorry this is too hard for you, mutt.
>>61079>Just learn the move clean so you can do it dirty if need be.Doesn't work that way bro.
>>61135Weird post, I ask you to backup a statement and your inner nazi comes out.
>>61087It's a training culture thing. As you know, heavy pressure is expected in judo newaza.
>>60967Too much, and your odds of getting an injury with that kind of schedule is almost certain.
>>60967What is your general fitness level?What how injury prone/willing to listen to your body are you?
>>61201Let me post that again but not fucked >>61087>Also fair lol. But in my experience people react really negatively to the painful stuff. I remember my Judo coach taught me exactly 1 guard opening before I had to stop going, which was an elbow to the inner thigh and putting pressure on that nerve until they broke. My first session rolling at a BJJ gym I was informed by the brown belt that it was considered very bad manner, on the level of like a can opener, and politely asked that I not do it in the future.People dont do that in BJJ because it hurts and most importantly it doesnt work. Countering the elbows in the thigh isnt difficult and if you really want to you can just grit your teeth and ignore the pain. So in BJJ comps no one is going to break guard from the elbows in the thigh, so its a useless move and it just hurts people. Hence bad banners.
>>61087Most martial arts places are oriented towards sports. Things that>basically work as long as your opponent isn't toughare good for self-defence, you're not gonna get attacked by a national judo champion, more like 5 drunk hobos.>>61202It works in the sense that it can get a random drunk hobo to let you go from surprise. Of course if you're in US you can just shoot him, or avoid such places in general. But I would rather train judo-based drunk hobo defence than oly judo, since I am not oly material.
>>61078>Thoughts on illegal stuff the guy's doing? Like knee drops on a dude's sternum,>Illegal?Nope. Dick move? Yes, especially against beginners if they haven't challenged you in a disrespectful way.I had a bloke like this showing up at the gym the other day... It was quite funny.
>>60978if thats the only thing available to you then just do gi bjj, how is this even a question
>>60967>startingStart one thing, then increase afterwards. People make weird plans like they are trying to compete in a world championship when they didn't even start their first day.
>>61139>Weird post, I ask you to backup a statement and your inner nazi comes out.American reading comprehension.You could try googling in German, you know? Oh wait, Americans don't speak any foreign languages. Your problem, then.
>>61336If this guy was so important there would definitely be at least one passing paragraph in English about his efforts in revitalizing jujutsu. Are you getting your info from weird uncited nationalist blogs? Koreans have this problem too.
>>61247pain compliance methods would work even less on a drunk hobo as their sense of pain is dulled. It may work on a sober person but you might as well just smesh if you are in guard
>>60941>Is aiki-jujutsu still taught in the west?Yes, but probably not the entire curriculum. It has one of the most extensive curriculums of any martial art I've ever heard of by at least an order of magnitude
What companies sell good rashguards?
is BJJ as good as some podcasters make it? Both Jocko and J. Rogan treat bjj as the best martial art (it is good to train kickboxing, wrestling, boxing, karate etc but if you want to start/do one thing then you should go for bjj).
>>61341Hes probably that same retarded german from the conspiracy thread who makes retarded statements then gets mad when anyone asks him to explain them.
BJJ or wrestling?
Judo or BJJ? I’m 26 and new to martial arts. I just want to have fun and learn how to defend myself in a pinch.
2 months of bjj under Bruno Bastos resulting in a little more times getting submitted than actually submitting someone, a few injuries nothing majoe except for maybe a late tap to an americana and my shoulder hurts for a month now... still no stripes on the belt but when I'm at the bar I feel that I can defend myself and even attack if it goes to the ground ama
>>63450>defend myselfNeither is ideal, but Judo is way more close to the real deal. BJJ has shit stand up game, where the fight starts.The difference in stand up is very significant, even in places that train standup in BJJ, and the difference in ground is irrelevant to most situations if you don't plan to cagefight.If you have some old school-like BJJ place near you, the difference is lower though, as there is enough takedown training to put an untrained bully in the floor and the difference when you are with your back in the floor is significantly higher.
>>63375It's a decent martial art, but far from the ultimate one.>>63450Take a trial class for gyms in your area and see what you like better.
>>63466>Neither is idealWhat is ideal?
>>63468As a single martial art, "MMA" in a place that produce professional fighters, Combat Sambo. Ideal because it teaches all aspects of the fighting game, striking, clinch, takedowns, submissions, in full contact.
>>63360Origin Maine, Fuji, hayabusa, and tatami just to name a few.
Been taking bjj for roughly a month now. Everyone at my gym is really experienced, so I've tapped out very few people, but I've been getting much better at little things: escaping submissions and dominant positions, passing the guard, keeping my balance, being squirrelly on the defense and sticky on the offense, etc. Making progress is a cool feeling. Debating on whether I want to go to a judo club to get more experience in stand-up, but cash is a bit tight for me unfortunately>>65156rashguards were invented as swimwear, so you can get some good ones from companies like o'neill, kanu, and patagonia too. Haven't looked into those much, but some are a bit cheaper than the ones you find martial arts stores selling (i.e. you can pick up an o'neill rashguard for 25-30 bucks, a bit cheaper than fuji's)
From what I've read and heard people say, it seems as though there are differences between the different branches/schools/organisations/franchises/whatever you want to call them of BJJ. For people who know, how significant are the differences? Are there particular schools that are more McDojo-ey than others? There's a few different BJJ schools that are all fairly close to where I live, but at least two of the locations are run by the same organisation and whenever I mention their name to people on the internet they react as though that organisation is kind of shit.
>>65879Gracie schools are mostly Mcdojos at this point. They don't give a fuck about standards. As long as you pay your fees and put in the gym time you will be a black belt in at least ten years. You don't even have to compete either.
>>65885>Gracie schools are mostly Mcdojos at this pointTwo of the larger ones near me are both Gracie Barra and that was one of the organisations I've seen getting a bit of flak.Can you name a more reputable organisation?
>>65892As a general rule, see if the instructors and higher-level students do well in competition. For example my school's owner competed at a very high level for a few years, trained a guy who did well in the UFC, and many of the instructors also competed at a high level at some point. Nothing says "this shit works" than an unambiguous demonstration of this shit working against other high-level practitioners and athletes
>>65897That makes a lot of sense and seems like a much better way of telling; thanks for the reply.
>>60941>>yes,i DO know judo pwned the old jujutsu on those inter-school matchesActually, that is super questionable. Jiu Jitsu won more matches than Judo until the match at the Yayoi shrine, which was allegedly won by Judo and is always quoted as such, but it turns out that it is actually unknown who fought and who won and which rules were used.Just saying.
>>65892Gracie Barra aren't actually bad instructors. They're the biggest proponent of the IBJJF ruleset so if you have a problem with that, then I guess you could say they suck at teaching. But generally that's only for the biggest Helio worshiping nerds. What Gracie Barra gets shit for is their business practices. Whack shit like only being able to buy a gi at their store for use in training or competition. No other badges on your gi besides Gracie Barra. As well as long, binding contracts. A good gym would have no such restrictions on what you wear and month to month is becoming the norm. Hopefully you have better options near you but if not, you can bit the bullet with Gracie Barra. If your wallet can stand it that is.
one of the white belts at my BJJ dojo is a judo instructor and he's got the biggest ego I've seen in martial arts contexts and I've trained in another combat sport (striking) every day for years at numerous clubsguy weighs almost twice as much as me and while rolling with him he'll go 100% all the way from standing to the ground game, using all his weight without variation, cranking my neck and exaggerating sweeps during drills, tries to undermine the main instructor by interjecting teaching with his own variations on grappling moveshow do I spare my neck and joints from this kind of training partner and why are judokas like this
>>65950Sounds like he has big dick energy. Shut him up if he's so annoying. Oh wait you can't because he can uchimata you into a wall.
>>65932This is all being taken onboard. Thanks for the reply.
>>65950you can always just say no
>>60937probably judo. wrestling of any kind is difficult to find instruction for once you are an adult. also, after looking up canarian wrestling, it appears there is clothing that you can grab, which makes it a bit closer to judo imo. judo has a lot of training resources anyways.
>>60967unless you are already crazy athletic, that is way too much and you are guaranteed to get injured assuming the sessions are 1/1.5 hours, keep maybe half the wrestling at most (if you are athletic). otherwise pick at most 2 of those plans.
>>61069>guy who made Japan aware of Jiu Jitsu in the first place in modern times>some germanlol no
New here, I want to learn a grappling martial art to better myself. I've poor eyesight though, will this be a problem? I assume I can't wear glasses during practice, Should I get LASIK done? Also which grappling martial art should I learn? Thanks guys.
>>66019My eyesight is fucking terrible and I get along just fine. Most of it is feeling anyway; much of the time (especially on the ground) you won't even be able to see much even with good eyesight (e.g. escaping back mount, wrapping up legs to stop a mount attempt, etc.). Don't worry about it. Just look into whatever's into your area and do a bit of research on the dojos you can go to
>>66019Grappling might be the best fit for you. You'll never be more than about 1 foot away from someone unless you're standing
>>63466Almost every street fight I've ever seen is either instant KO sucker punch or ends with awkward ground n pound
There was an anon in the previous thread that linked an archive URL to a bunch of instructionals but it got taken down. Anyone know where to else a poorfag might go to look for more?
Is going for a "fuck it" leglock setup - like an imanari roll, or sambo rolling kneebar - the only real chance a smaller opponent has against a larger one, assuming roughly equal skill?
>>66255I'm the anon that linked that page. That site has other accounts with instructionals, just start searching. Unfortunately the one that got taken down had fucking everything and extremely new stuff.>>66387>Is going for a "fuck it" leglock setup - like an imanari roll, or sambo rolling kneebar - the only real chance a smaller opponent has against a larger one, assuming roughly equal skill?Not really. I can sometimes get controlled leg entries (backstep while passing, elevation into cross ashi) on bigger dudes. Generally, for big vs. small, the small guy either needs to get onto the legs of the big guy or take his back. Those positions sort of neutralize the size/strength difference
>>63475If you start in MMA you're going to learn shit technique and you're never going to unlearn it
>>63360Wait so when guys like the Hu wear all that studded leather and shit, it's just traditional Mongolian wrestling garb?
Serious question: How do grapplers get past it all being kind of gross?
>>68489Half the fun of grappling is doing gay weird shit to your partner. My go to move is shoving my thumb into my sparring partners butt. They freeze up everytime for a no effort submission.
>>68493Normally I'd just think this is joking around, but given the subject matter I don't know if maybe you're serious.
>>68499Dead ass serious. If you have never engaged in homosexual acts during sparring then you are not a real grappler.
>>68491The etiquette is to be fastidiously clean for yours and everyone else's sake. That helps to a point but there's no getting around the fact that grappling is sweaty and smelly by its very nature. It's not for everyone. Generally, grapplers find it more fun and fulfilling than it is gross, like way more. Every hobby has its drawbacks.
>>68503That's sort of comforting. Although even without the sweat and getting breathed on in close quarters thing, I also read a few horror stories of people doing gross shit at the gym without any regard for the other people aroun them. One story invovled a guy blowing his nose into his gi or his shirt before rolling. I realise that simply wouldn't occur to most people to even do a thing like that, but it reminded me of some of the gross shit you see people doing in day-to-day life, then made me consider that, with the added problem of them being right on you.
>>68508Some people actually go out of their way to be grimy and disgusting for competitions. In MMA Joachim Hansen and Matt Lindland were notorious for not showering before a fight and smelling like dog shit. One of Hansen's opponents said he almost threw up as soon as he clinched him.
>>68513Kek imagine if that backfired on them.>show up to fight smelling like shit>fight goes to the ground>other guy gets on top of you>the smell is overwhelming>he vomits all over you
>>68516>victory via DQ without having to spend any gasSounds like a win. I don't think you have the "elite" grappler mindset.https://youtu.be/PTbhJ-zXf0IIn all seriousness wrestlers are fucking psychos.
LOL BJJ is gym fighting. There's a reason the old Japanese jiu-jitsu avoided newaza. They knew you would get stabbed. Kano dumbed it down to judo and Helio dumbed it down further. If you enjoy sport fighting, fine, but don't think it's a real martial art.
>>68544So they can make rules to protect you from your opponent pagging on you, but not about not turning up to a fight smelling like a dog's arsehole?
>>68618And then there's this weeaboo faggot.
>>68630I think if you showed up like egregiously bad. Wafting of shit or vomit or something, the officials might DQ you even though that's not in the rulebook. I've worked in hotels in the past and occasionally when we had a mentally ill guest or alcoholic or something they would refuse to shower for weeks and the smell was horrendous, it was unreal. They would walk into the lobby and instantly the entire room stunk of shit and BO and that smell lingered. If you showed up like that there's a good argument that you're a genuine health risk. However, if you just smell like a particularly rank gym sock. Say you haven't washed your gi in a while and the smell is only really bad up close. I can't imagine the officials will say or do anything and trying to complain to them about that will probably just mark you as a pussy. You won't run into people doing this intentionally outside of the most win-or-die aspiring pro circles. Everytime I've competed it seems like everyone has taken a shower. Smelly shits in training are always corrected by the coach. That shit is bad for business.
>>68633Well that's something of a relief.
>look at all the shit that bjj gets on /xs/>do a little bit of my own research>coming across articles and stories about the gracies being huge pieces of shit since the early 20th century>basically thugs and criminalsGiven all the other stuff people say against BJJ on here, how come 4chan never criticises them for this?
>>69287Because it's old news. Anyone who bothers to do a bit of reading will discover that the Gracie family were a pack of monkeys and their most positive contribution to the world was a bumfuck fight tournament. Both the sport of MMA and the art BJJ have outgrown them. There's admirable stuff in their history but also a lot of primate behavior. On the internet especially you will not find too many people willing to cape for the Gracies.
Wrestling, or Judo? Why?
Any catch wrestlers here? I understand it's about quick, pain inducing submissions
>>60931What weight lifts and exercise help with grappling? I can’t fucking gather all the stuff out there. Like there’s over the shoulder cable pulls for judo. What about wrestling?
>>69287People call the Gracies out for being crybullies and hucksters all of the time here and did on /asp/. Stick around, my man, and keep your eyes peeled. There's always going to be one guy who wants to vent his rage about shit that happened probably when he was a baby or something.
>>68508Theres a guy at my bjj gym who is the shitpants guy. The asshole area on his gi gets more and more brown throughout the class and rolling. Fuckin nasty.
>>70078It not affecting them isn't really the focus for me. What surprises me is the cult surrounding them when most of them seem like bad people... or just horrible recording artists:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBYmZsUjSFE
>>70086Kinda depends on the crowd. Normies who walk into a BJJ gym off the street will hear the Gracie mythology and not question it much. I wouldn't say they worship the Gracies but they will probably be starstruck if one were to visit the gym. The actual Gracie cultists are pretty rare. They're out there but most people are attending any given gym due to a combination of cost, travel time, instruction quality, etc. Attending a gym isn't necessarily endorsing the behavior or opinions of the head instructor. It's a business transaction.On the internet the attitude tends to be much more critical of the Gracies. Places like the BJJ subreddit are openly hostile whenever some old Gracie fart like Royce makes a comment about how modern BJJ sucks or that you shouldn't roll with gay people or whatever the fuck. Respect is given to their role in creating MMA in the 90's but anything beyond that is fair game. They really don't get special treatment these days. That was a long time ago.
>>70091That doesn't sound so bad then. It seems to kind of tie in with what the other anon said about how BJJ and MMA have both outgrown the Gracies.>>70085How come it's never addressed? Do people feel sorry for him or something?
>>69424Cop-out answer, both. They complement each other well and you'll be damned hard to take down.>>70085How does a guy at your gym who shits his pants so often he's known as the "shitpants guy" stay at the gym without getting thrown out? That's like having a town rapist.
>>70103>Cop-out answer, both. They complement each other well and you'll be damned hard to take down.Intredasting. I've been thinking about trying some grappling arts once lockdown ends, and other than the thought of getting sharted on, it sounds interesting.
>>70091>Jump people and hate queersWtf the Gracies are based
>>70118If you love Bolsonaro you'd love the Gracies, they're buddy buddy with the Brazilian far right. The cops and military are deeply connected to the Gracie family. That being said, it doesn't take a lot to end up on their bad side. The Rufino dos Santos incident is the most infamous example. Carlos and Helio would have rotted in prison were it not for their connections to the president at the time. Helio to his credit, looks on that time as the lowest in his life. Carlos was a proud ape.
>>70103This is what happens when Americans go to the ground.
>>68618LOL boxing is gym fighting. There's a reason the old european boxers trained grappling and weapons. They knew you would get stabbed/choked out. Broughton dumbed it down to exclude weapons and throws and the London Prize Ring Rules dumbed it down further. If you enjoy sport fighting, fine, but don't think it's a real martial art.
>>70259>dumbed it downMorenlile focused it on a specific aspect. Thats not the same as dumbing it down, in fact its the opposite. When you focus on one particular aspect of fighting you become able to find the more complicated and nuanced skills within it. Theres a reason western boxers have the best hands in mma and bjj guys are best fighting off the ground. Its what they focus on and therefore have the time to learn minutia.
>>68492Have you never fought against your brothers or a kid at elementary school? It's kinda like that.
>>70103The way to do it is to start your kid with judo so he can develop throwing and footsweep skills that most wrestling training neglects - and then have him wrestle in HS to pick up the rest.
>>70348Yeah but they were people I knew; strangers are often very gross. Anyway we got past all of that many posts ago.
Went 2-2 at a tournament at 185 white belt today. Definitely going back to 170, whats you guys experience with competing up a weight class?
>>60931my dad is a black belt in bjj :(he used to pin me sit on my stomach and prod my chest
>>60941>,i DO know judo pwned the old jujutsu on those inter-school matchesThose matches never happened, it's a fairy tale.Well there was one in 1984, where the judoka got wrecked lol.
>>70050Just lift some fucking compounds and stop overthinking it. Build your strength and build your engine, it isn't hard.
I've been doing sumo for the past little while, i'm having trouble maintain my squat and keeping my stance strong. What can i do to make it easier to maintain a squat
If you are in the US and there is a sumo club near you, attend a practice. It's really fun
>>60931I train in WrestlingNot very good at itBut still ok
>>60937I agree with>>66001You should take Judo
>>6589210th Planet Jiu Jitsu
>>72008hey that's pretty good
I've been really digging the clock choke lately.
>>61069i read the article and all it showed is that judo was btfoing totsukaryu during randori from its superior standup. Sure there was no good primary source, but the fact that the police decided to adopt judo after hosting the police competition is evidence enough that it was better for the nonlethal hand to hand shit that police had to do
>>71996Check out Takeshi Amitani's videos for traditional sumo exercises. Accomplished amateur sumo wrestler who trained with some big pro names while they were coming up. Also speaks English since he coached/competed in the US for awhile.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbldL6ocEbJT3hQ66mAMb9FJBy273LDcG
>>66019I have pretty bad eyesight and I did Muay Thai for a year and have been doing BJJ for a couple of months. My eyesight has never interfered with my training. My girlfriend is a brown belt in Judo and she wears contacts while she's training -- never got in the way for her either. Have fun :)
>>68287Traditional Mongolian wrestling garb developed from the armor Mongols would wear on the battlefield. Wrestling is a national sport/big fucking deal in Mongolia as it's considered one of the 3 "manly arts" practiced when Genghis was still kickin'. The Hu wearing studded leather could be a tribute to wrestling, or it could be a direct reference to the armor that the wrestling garb descended from.webm unrelated
>>60931https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ17KqrJeHr/what did he do wrong bros?
>>60931Is the ref just being a cunt or is this fine?
I don’t know why, but on some evenings our bjj rolling escalates into pure war lolMy entire body hurts but I feel like I learned a lot And I crossed of another guy off my mental list of guys that I couldn’t submit so far, caught him with a heel hook. Feels great man
>>73365Short version: Tunnel vision. He should have gotten off his ass to pass instead of holding onto a leg he had no control over.Long version:-His backstep into cross-ashi/saddle was shallow and shitty, that heel hook attempt was never going to work. -She did a good job of moving her left leg to inside position, while catching his right leg with her arm. Once she did this (and ultimately ended up with her left foot on his hip), he should have immediately addressed it. She won the leg pummeling game and eventually moved her right leg into a good position to trap his knee.-He was extending his leg to defend against an ankle lock (I think?), but it made his heel extremely easy to access. He tried to spin out at the end but was way too slow, and their leg entanglement made it hard to move.
>>73365wow she's really good!
>>60967Ditch the judo. Wrestling + submissions (BJJ) beats judo every single time. It's completely judos fault because they wanted to stay relevant as a sport so they banned leg grabs to stop wrestlers from taking them down every single time. Wrestling takedowns are all considerably higher percentage moves than judo throws.
>>75862>Wrestling + submissions (BJJ) beats judo every single time.What an endorsement for judo lol. >you need 2 martial arts to beat judo every single everytime!>It's completely judos fault because they wanted to stay relevant as a sport so they banned leg grabs to stop wrestlers from taking them down every single time.This wasn't the reason they were banned, wrestlers never dominated judokas with leg takedowns, and leg takedowns were low percentage moves, same in sambo.
>>76021>leg takedowns were low percentage moves, same in sambo.thisleg takedowns lose a lot of efficacy once you can grab a gi, that's why you never see leg takedowns in grappling arts where there''s any kind of jacket or thing in the torso you can grab(sui jiao, mongolian wrestling, judo etc)
>>75652what can you when your opponent does that to you? what kind of counter you can make when you're that high in the air?
>>76021>samboAs a guy that dabbles in sambo, leg grabs are typically sneaky knee/ankle picks after grips have been established - as well as things like te-guruma and classic kata-guruma
>>76163>what kind of counter you can make when you're that high in the air?You don't. Trying to counter in mid-air means you get slammed worse because you're not in a position to breakfall.If somebody can pick you up and ragdoll like that, you're probably fucked. Your only hope is to sort of sprawl in midair to make it harder to throw you and try to land in a position to counter when you do finally land on the ground.