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Keep strictly real steel gun related laws and politics to >>>/k/ and >>>/pol/. Leave the gun and gear porn.

If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.

>Updated Newbie pastebin
https://pastebin.com/Qy01C4Ta

>/asg/ retailer guide
http://pastebin.com/YHNFKKt6

>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airs

Last Thread >>39754 (OP)
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>>47795
Thread Prompt:
What's your opinion on speedsosfters? Some like them some hate them. In addition what are your thoughts on the SSG1? Do you like its design or hat it for looking like a paintball gun?
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>>47795
Thread Prompt:
What's your opinion on speedsosfters? Some like them some hate them. In addition what are your thoughts on the SSG1? Do you like its design or that it for looking like a paintball gun?
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>>47797
I don't mind speedsofters personally, so long as they aren't the types to actively cheat/bend the rules in unfair ways; personally I don't like some of the guns and gear myself though, like those atrocious AR mag adapters for handguns, buffer-tube dropstocks and grip-mounted tanks that radiate paintball energy, but I don't entirely mind if other people enjoy them
Regarding SSG-1: looks a bit weird, but more importantly it's overpriced for what you get out of the box (pretty typical G&G imo) and the main variant has a blade trigger literally designed to allow people to cheat full-auto rules by spamming with multiple fingers; I don't care if it's ugly as long as it isn't actively designed with rule-bending/cheating in mind and/or they aren't overpricing an inferior gun
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>>47797
They should just play paintball, airsoft is for faggots who want to larp, at least to some extent.
I currently use a Dye mask myself. Even though I don't like the way it looks it's the only eye pro I've tried that doesn't fog (if anyone knows of a pair of shooting glasses that you can guarantee won't fog please let me know).
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>>47797
Speedshitters are fine as long as they dont have setups that give them advantages in every possible way. I personally like the speedsoft playstyle but the community around it is aids.
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>the state of states
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>>47797
Havent encountered any. And all the videos I've seen of them show that the opposing side is just standing in the same corner and no one even bothers to watch if someone is trying to flank. They just stand there and get shot.
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>>47806
speedball is better than speedsoft in every single way, i can't stand speedsoft
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>>47813
My problem with speedball is that when you're playing competitively you have to shoot like $50 worth of paint per player at the fucking wall every point just to zone people out of advancing, it's so wasteful and is prohibitively expensive
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>>47813
There's an argument to be made in terms of cost to play; airsoft is almost universally cheaper than paintball in most regards, especially in terms of feeding the things with BBs versus paint, and entry-level guns are far more accessible
there's also less risk if someone is overshot/shot too close in airsoft compared to paintball and no staining clothing, and airsoft allows you to engage at much greater distances than paintball (though obviously in CQB fields that point is partially invalid, albeit with the advantage of projectile travel time remaining present)

Never really saw the appeal of paintball in general after getting into airsoft, seems like it's just way more expensive for way less result and the markers tend to look weird to me
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*clack clack*
nothin personnel kid
*plunk*
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>>47826
I miss my clear Bass Pro Shops EBB
I've considered ordering one of the Tokyo Marui ones they were all clones of
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>>47818
Yeah, kinda the main reasons I stopped paintball. Most fields were going speedball and woodsball was going away. And shooting endless ropes of paint seemed so pointless and wasteful. I think I shot more paint on semi than I do BB's at full auto.
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>>47826
I've been thinking about carrying one of those to fields so I can get around MEDs and bang rules
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>>47834
>>47822
>>47818

Check out paintball m500 format. It's speedball but with limited paint. It's infinitely better.
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>>47795
thank you based non-discord op>>47797
>>47797
zero issue unless its a milsim or whatever. cheaters and dickheads come in all shapes and sizes, i think a lot of the hate for speedsoft is fudds getting owned cause their knees can't keep up with the gotta-go-fasts.
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I went to the local renegade field to play some pick up games with my nephews and a few friends and some skinny teenage lookin guy seemed pissed off that most of us had Pelican and Plano cases. He started calling us "Pay to winners" because we had cases worth more than some people's entire loadouts and packed his shit up in his late 90s Mercury SUV and left in a huff.

What's the dumbest shit you've seen someone leave the field over?
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>>47916
what was he bring his gun in, a bin bag?
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>CO2 blowback mag leaks
>put in a rebuild kit
>works for a while then starts leaking again
>put another rebuild kit in
>still leaks

What do you do at this point? Is it the feed neck? Buy a new mag?
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>>47919
I'm honestly not sure. I'm told he had it in a duffle bag with an airsoftgi barrel sock over the tip. Nothing truly terrible. Supposedly he's locally known for being a dickhead and a wannabe EMT
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>>47921
I can only imagine you're talking about EF1911 mags, judging by the mention of rebuild kits; if so, ditch the mag, buy a KJW Hi-Capa (KP-05 being the one I think looks nicest, personally) with propane mags and never look back; at least, that's my suggestion
KWC 1911s and their rebrands are absolutely terrible, and their magazines are known for leaking no matter what; leaky mags are an extremely common issue with them, amongst other things
I guess in the meantime before doing such a thing you could try lubricating the absolute shit out of your seals, but I have no idea how long that will last
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>>47916
>pay to winners
>literally just using decent hard cases for guns
That's a strange one, I guess if I showed up with my Plano scoped pistol case that I got for like 30 bucks at most he'd have a shitfit? Never understood the point of throwing a tantrum over someone else's shit, just enjoy your own stuff and try to outplay them if you legitimately think they have a substantial advantage over you
And I have no idea why a gun case would give the impression that someone has an advantage rather than just that they don't want their shit to break or be out in the open during transportation
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>>47935
Gotcha. Do they make HPA drum mags for them? I might just go that route
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>>47938
It's even crazier because all of us were running AEGs and there were guys there with HPAs before we even showed up. I think the "nicest" gun any of us had was my buddy's Ares Honey Badger clone or my Poseidon Carbine. Nothing too crazy at all
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>>47947
TAPP does, but it appears that they're sold out on Evike at the moment, and they cost more than the gun itself; if they can be found in stock elsewhere I guess they might be worth giving a shot, but I don't have experience with them (I just run propane mags in my KJ G17) so I'd recommend asking around about how they perform
https://www.evike.com/products/79827/
There's also the AW drum mags that default to propane and can probably be fitted with one of those adapter taps, but they're sold out on Evike too
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>>47953
I honestly want to know what it must be like to live in a world where one determines whether or not something is pay-to-win not based off of things like actual guns used, but off of shit like gun cases
man could probably see me with a stock G17 but also see a hardshell case and assume it's as pay-to-win as running HPA and not just me giving a shit about keeping my stuff safe from being knocked around during transportation
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>>47958
Would one of these work with my KWC clone? I figure they'd lock up but I'm not sure if the nozzle would line up. If the problem I'm having is with mags I wouldn't mind just paying for a forever mag that works. Mine's one of the cybergun Series 70, a shitty clone of a shitty airsoft replica of a shitty gun but it looks really nice and I wouldn't mind keeping it https://www.evike.com/products/79847/
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>>47963
Fuckin A, man. I've played that field and the group for a few years now and it's the first time I saw anyone get pissy there. We had a guy last year get a snake-bite from a teammate N/Ding them and he wasn't even mad because it was an obvious accident and it was "Just a little blood".

I'm still shocked at how fucking dumb that guy was, his ratty ass 97 mercury mountaineer shaking it's busted suspension through the dirt road in a huff, angry name calling echoing through the canyon, will be living rent free in my mind for a few more days to come
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My Krytac is a piece of shit. Am I the only one?
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>>47804
yeah but paintballs dead desu, even people i know who've been playing paintball for 20+ years know this
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>>47965
Unfortunately no, as the magazine designs are completely different; I suggested a 2011 design because not only does it have far greater aftermarket than the KWC 1911s, but it also doesn't have the gas issues with standard mags of TM-spec metal 1911s due to having a thicker magazine body to serve as a reservoir than a single-stack
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>>47979
Makes sense. Might just buy a Glock or something then.
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>>47980
Personally have a KJW Glock 17, it has held up pretty well so far with the only change I've made being adding some night sights after my dumbass stripped the rear sight screw by overtightening
American-retail version would be the KP-13 (pictured left), if you don't want to go through the process of importing a proper one from overseas and/or prefer the looks of it; WE Glocks also apparently make pretty solid bases, meanwhile the officially licensed EF/VFC ones don't have much going for them in the way of aftermarket despite being drastically overpriced compared to the other two
Should work with any WE/AW gas magazines, I personally have a couple of AW mags because at the time they were the only option with a flat gasket up top, and they allegedly have better efficiency than KJW gas mags
gun
https://www.evike.com/products/77769/
magazines (which EMG rebranded as their own; get gas magazines, way cheaper to toss a propane adapter on a Coleman tank and run that than to buy packs of CO2)
https://www.evike.com/products/77070/
fair note though: if you're looking for a Kydex or other hardshell holster for one, get a Glock 20 holster or one specifically designed for airsoft, as airsoft Glocks and Glock-alikes are slightly thicker than real 9x19 Glocks
learned that lesson the hard way with a Blackhawk Sportster Standard I found on sale for dirt-cheap that's gathering dust in a drawer right now
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>>47984
I'll look into those. I've fucked around with a couple of Glocks, both the EMG salient thing and a few of the EF Glocks and while they don't seem to be as goofy as the 1911s I've seen problems with them locking back on full mags and things of that nature, and seen some of the salient slides crack since they're really thin MIM. Also not a fan of the trend of race gun Glocks. Maybe I should get an M&P or something.

How is the state of RMR support on airsoft? I haven't looked into it but I'm getting close to grabbing a little holosun dot.
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>>47992
Depends on how you pursue it; there are options to put an RMR plate where your rear sight would typically go (some having sights built-in as backups; example shown left is a G-series mount for most airsoft Glocks on the market), and then there are some guns that have slides (or even just aftermarket slides) that are RMR-cut out of the box but tend to need special blowback units and/or magazines
My KJ's never had issues locking on full mags personally, aside from maybe jamming if I press my thumb up against the slide too hard while hitting the release which can be dealt with either via replacing the slide release or just getting used to it
And yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of race-gun builds; only thing I'll probably change externally on mine is a new coat of paint on the metal and potentially some G20 engravings, since KJW Glocks come with smooth, blank slides that have no trades
If you want a regular Glock without going the EF route, buying overseas is always an option; as far as I'm aware they've become rather smart with avoiding customs issues, KYAirsoft and Rainbow8 seem to be good choices, though I haven't used them myself since importation to the Democratic People's Republic of Canuckistan is a bitch and a half without a retailer connection - a buddy of mine from California did use KY to buy a WE G17 without issues, though
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>>47999
pardon my retardation, I forgot to remove the "example shown left" text when I changed images from a MITA RMR mount to my personal G17
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>>47999
Damn bro thanks for the writeup. I saw one of the AW Glocks on eshite and those don't look too bad, basically just a P80 with a goofy slide but they've got an RMR cut for $120. I work at a shop too so I might be able to get a slight discount but evike's margins are dogshit. Interesting about importing them though, I haven't screwed with that much. We've got one of the TM M16VNs in that was missing the barrel and the hop up and it is a bitch and a half finding those, since it doesn't take a standard M4 hop up or even the two piece hops, but an ancient TM specific hop up that doesn't have the little guide ridges, and the only place I can find them is a site in the UK, so the importing rabbit hole is something I might have to fuck with soon. Anywhoo I'll weigh my options, worst comes to worst I can always get one of the EF Glocks, I'm not too worried about the price but getting parts to fix them can be a bitch.
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>>47808
>airshitgi
not even once
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>>47808
Literally every negative airsoft stereotype in one picture
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>>47808
These two vape. You can tell
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>>47921
Where does it leak out of the mag, the bottom? Have you tried the standard fixes: oil, teflon tape, RTV sealant, etc?
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>>48014
I'm late as hell, but fair warning about those AW P80s, they have really tall frames on the front-end that can cause holster fitment issues IIRC
Aside from that they should just be WE Glocks internally, so you should have considerable aftermarket availability; Glocks are basically WE/AW's specialty compared to other pistol designs
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>Want the benefits of an 11.1v on my 416 without extending my stock all the way out
>Too scared about LiPos assploding or just straight up die on me because I'm not autistic enough to constantly check the battery and maintain it
>settle for a big 11.1v Li-Ion stick that forces me to extend the stock all the way
What's the reality of owning and caring for LiPo like? I settled for Titan Power because they can be pretty much treated like NiMH while also having the benefits of LiPo but I want that fast RoF without having to extend my stock so far out to fit a big stick battery.
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anyone sell matech rear sight clones or should i just get a real one
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>>48089
I was scared about lipos to but really as long as you aren't stupid and stop firing when your gun starts to have a slow ROF and change the battery then you are fine. Your phone and laptop uses batteries similar to LIPOs and they can explode to but no one is really scared of them
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>>48089
If you are too scared of lipos and dont want the hassle of properly caring for them get titan power batteries.
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>>47799
>so long as they aren't the types to actively cheat/bend the rules in unfair ways
Which don't even make up the majority of them. Most speedsofters I've encountered have been decent players. Most of the people I've had a bad experience with are the milsimmers who take themselves too seriously and will bitch at people for breaking their immersion at games that aren't milsim games.
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>>48101
it's even easier when your gun stops firing completely when the mosfet detects the voltage has gone below its threshold level.
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>>48089
Lipo isn't bad. Get a smart charger that monitors and regulates the charging, get a cheap fireproof charging bag for $1, and if you're that worried, they sell small plugins for $5-10 that monitor the battery in the gun and set off an alarm if it drops below threshold.

>>48101
The difference from electronics is that they monitor the charging for safety and efficiency. With hobbies like airsoft, drones, etc... you potentially have people plugging batteries straight into dumb chargers, where the person needs to be the monitor. It's bad enough with NiMH.

But really, LiPo isn't that hard to maintain. Just don't be dumb. Or super cheap.
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>>47797
They really should just play paintball. Airsoft is primarily larping first, even if it looks more like an irl game of call of duty instead of a milsim. They can be a lot better than your average fag in cqb, and normally are, but they tend to be a bit too aggressive here around kids, and whine about getting overshot by snipers and other field only builds because they are terrible at calling hit. I really don't get all the paintball style gear, and it always feels like they just play that way against airsoft larpers because an actual speedball team would roll them too hard.
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Did the AGM STEN get discontinued? It's out of stock everywhere now.
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>>48121
Indeed, most speedsofters I've seen are fine; I can say that most milsim types seem to be fine, but the kinds of people who have an autistic shitfit over gear ("every even slightly themed kit must be a 100% accurate impression kit no matter what complete with obscure/rare pieces or else I'm going to go nuclear") have the potential to be some of the least approachable people in communities, though this is moreso me venting about stuff I've encountered in online communities than actual in-person players
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>>48089
The reality is that they're rather simple to care for if you know what you're doing; don't puncture them or beat them to shit and you'll be fine, and if you're running 11.1v batteries make sure your gun has electronics of some sort to handle it for the sake of longevity
Use a good smart charger, store them in fireproof bags, and don't overdischarge (if you hear your gun slowing down significantly, or your gun's electronics suddenly stop it from working altogether, it's time to switch to a new one and charge the one you were using)
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>>48205
Yeah, I have had people ask me my "impression" was before when I'm just wearing kryptek nomad or 5.11 pants with a black combat shirt and my go to is to just say a random GI Joe's name. So far everyone has laughed and been pretty cool
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>>48134
>>48208
If I'm not using them outside of games, do I have to leave it on the charger and let the charger handle the balancing automatically 24/7? The way I treat my Titans is that whenever they reach full charge, I just take them off the charger and leave them alone on my desk until I take them for game day and I don't know if I can do the same to LiPo
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>>48239
When they're done charging, you just unplug them and stick them in a fireproof LiPo bag until the next time you use them
That's what I do with my batteries, hasn't failed me
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>>48250
neat. I may get an 11.1v LiPo then. Is pic related suitable as a good charger or other recommendations?
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>>47795
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airs
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>>48257
I have this one on recommendation of friends. You'll be able to charge anything.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010CCMWMO/

And with the 10% coupon right now, it's just a few bucks more.
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>>48282
Wow even Tenergy has their version of the B6AC? There are about 20 clones of this model of charger, I can't even tell which is the true original make.
As far as I know, SKYRC is the most authentic manufacturer for this type of charge, at least for the V2 model.
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>>47963
Case posting pals itt
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>>48257
I have this one, it's great but I don't think it can discharge
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>>48239
Don't leave LiPo batteries fully charged for more than a day or two or they'll start to puff up. You want to charge or discharge them with your smart charger to 3.8 volts per cell when placing them in storage.
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What the heck is this?
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>>48333
If memory serves, WE's take on the Action Army AAP-01 design in the form of the Galaxy series; basically the bastard child of a Ruger MKIV and a Glock 18
takes Glock magazines and lower parts but the upper components are most likely proprietary, considering that's how it is with the AAP-01; the key differences that I can see are that the WE variant has a metal upper and a Glock-style lower, and is being sold at a price point of $139 on Evike, while the AAP-01's upper is allegedly largely polymer (aside from the functional bits) and has a more unique-looking lower while only being five cents shy of $100
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>>47797
I've come back around on speedsofters. As long as it's a semi only field a lot of their supposed advantages arent that important. Also I once saw one of those cringy go pro on helmet-wearing speedsofter teams (like 12 guys) get absolutely rolled by 4 drunk reservists with rental GNG combat raiders. Was amazing.
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Gonna head out tonight for some woods game in a very burned out ghost town with some bros. I'm pumped
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>>48446
That the WE P99 and the KA PDW? They seem like interesting guns, how're you liking them so far?
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>>48531
Yep. Both are fine, the p99 runs really well and the pdw is extremely picky about magazines, but shoots great when you have good ones.

I normally run my WE 1911 and a Poseidon Punisher, but I felt like running my "B" team today
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yall have a good time playing today? I had an amazing time today despite the rai. Ive found a new money drain called eg67s too
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>>48623
Pyro is a ton of fun if your field allows it, but holy hell its it a money pit. I didn't play any today since we run games every other week. Instead I worked on the field a ton since it is overgrown. I bought a brush clearing disk for my weed eater, and knocked down a shit load of saplings while my buddy cleared the slightly thicker stuff with a Sawzall. We realized how much more we still need to clear out so I invested in the 60v dewalt chainsaw and a fuck huge batter since I already use their tools.

I'll be back out there tomorrow knocking down more saplings, and using the thicker stuff we cut down to rebuild barriers that have rotten away over time.
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>>48644
god bless those who work on their local fields. But yeah $13 a throw really makes you think before throwing, you have to consider is it worth throwing money at that person or do i use this later when there is more? Its really something but its lots of fun
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>>48623
I had a blast. I expected a chill 4 hours but it ended up being an 8 hour killfest.
I need to learn to get killed early in matches without respawn so I can chill in the base and not have so much time out in the field.
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>>48282
So trying to get over my fear of LiPo, I bought this charger along with 2 different 11.1v batteries. One is a Tenergy 1200 mah 20c and the other is a Valken 1000 mah 20c. Any teaching advice on how to properly charge and discharge at an appropriate settings for each other than changing the mah limit?
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>>47795
Is the AGM Sten discontinued? It's out of stock everywhere.
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>>48789
Just limit the charge current like the manual says. I don't have the manual with me to figure out the math. Otherwise, you plug in all the cables and the smart part does its thing.
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>>48623
I'm just now finished sleeping off our night game at the ghost town. 6 hours shooting dudes in the dark as we all tripped over burned out doorways and roots an in the middle of the streets and drinking crown and cokes and trying to do trick shots at 430am with a BAC only legal in an Alabama brothel
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>>47795
Reminder to get of your asses and get your real bangs.
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>>48827
I do, but it's hard to blow through 3k rounds of 556 these days and not feel like I wasted a paycheck
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>>48886
NO WERE NOT DOING THIS AGAIN YIU ALREADY FUCKED UP THE OLD GENERAL GO BACK TO THE BASEMENT YOU STARTED THIS BULLSHIT IN
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>>48887 THIS IS MY GENERAL.
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>>48886
Did he finally break out that shithole he was stuck in
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>>48888
The quads have spoken.... skullfag is lord. We are doomed.
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>>48890
you've been doomed. I've been waiting for this moment for a long time
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>>48888
>skullfag gets quads
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Get in the car boys. We are in for a ride
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kämpft für führer und volk
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Attention Airshitters
Ticks are literally worse than niggers
That is all
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>>48789
Use LiPo balance charge and set the charge rate to 1a for the 1000mah battery and 1.2a for the 1200 one and use 11.1v 3S (3 cell) for both.

Once you feel your fire rate going down on your gun it is time to stop using that battery since you don't want to let it go below 3v.

Leave your battery at 3.7v/3.8v per cell for optimal storage so for a three cell battery drain it to 11.1v using the LiPo storage mode. Don't store it fully charged at 4.2v for more than a few days. Don't leave it unsupervised while charging, have a plan ready to throw it out your window and to your neighbour if it starts smoking or popping during charging. Stop using it if it becomes bloated/puffy.
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>>48907
Why the hell do airshit batteries use outdated LiPo instead of LIon
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>>48818
>>48907
alright thanks
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>>48886
>>48893
>>48894
>>48896
What am I looking at?
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>>48018
where buy from then
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Is there any guide/manual about basic tune options for most AEGs? Especially looking for CYMA M4 and KA AS VAL.
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>>48793
Corona might just be fucking up the supply lines. Nearly everything is out of stock.
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rate my CZ?
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>>48905
You're trying too hard
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>>48991
To do what
I fucking hate ticks
Stating that is the entire extent of my intention with that post
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>>48995
To fit in to le edgy racist 4chin culture
This isn't /b/
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>oh boy, new game
>sea multicam + faggy speedhole helmets toting AR15 derivative
>teams look so identical, 2 REFLECTIVE ARMBANDS need to be worn at all times
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been buying too many gunzz send help
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>>49069
What make of G3 is that?
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>>49069
ill help, just give them to me
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>>48959
Needs an underbarrel tomahawk axe
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Any recommendations for a metal AK-47 preferably with folding stock? Handguard does not need to come as wood since I can probaby buy a real part and modify it to fit.
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>>49312
LCT LCKMS or CYMA cm.048s. Former if you have the cash, latter if you're on a budget.
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>>49312
This is my RX AKS 47, mostly heavy nylon and metal/aluminium goes hard planning to put full wood furniture.
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>>48289
Friendly Reminder: /xs/ is a board devoted to airsoft and alternate sports. Discussions about politics or current events belong on /pol/. >>>/pol/
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>>49381
How is that relevant to the post you daft cunt?

>>49314
Man I wish I had an LCT. I had the cash, but I was new and was trying to play it safe.
Not like there's any issue with the CYMA CM048 series, it's just the externals get to you after a while...
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>>49395
>Not like there's any issue with the CYMA CM048 series, it's just the externals get to you after a while...
Well, there is the fact the internals are not long for this world but you get what you pay for.
Save up and buy the LCT. I bought an LCT for my first gun because I knew I was going to outgrow the CYMA quickly and wish I'd bought the LCT to begin with. Buy once cry once. And the externals are picture perfect.
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>>49422
I imagine they appear often enough on the secondary market. There's no point for me to pay new prices since
>no airshit fields around me
>no land to LARP on
>no friends to LARP with
>airshitting can be used against you, professionally and socially

I'm just going to use it as a prop to take pictures on static displays, so why pay full price for something that will never even have a charged battery put in ever again?
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>>49424
wtf?
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>>49437
When I was a kid, I thought that I was going to make enough money to buy all the real guns and airsoft I want and go airsofting every weekend. Now I'm an adult and can afford it, but there's nowhere to play anymore and it's just going to be another item that takes up space at best and that I will actively have to hide at worst when company is over. Every time I get the itch to buy airsoft I have to remind myself of that.
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>>49439
I'm just mad that it took until I was 29 to learn that there was a badass field near me that used to have a fucking helicopter this whole fucking time.
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>>49441
Enjoy it for me because I sure as fuck can't.
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>>49184
LCT. thing's at least over 10 lbs of full metal battle rifle lmoa
>>49194
nty
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Question, what's the general opinion about people using riot shields duiring skirms? Im planning on building a shield, and only using it in combination with a non high-cap pistol.
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>>49493
Actually decent ballistic shield, whether real or not, that has significant enough weight and bulk to it and isn't transparent: fair
transparent polycarbonate that weighs nothing akin to something like the Evike riot shield: fuck off

do the former and there will be a lower chance of people getting upset with you because stuff like polycarb featherweight shields are bullshit
at least, that's my opinion
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>>49439
>actively have to hide at worst when company is over
I have a metal locker in the garage, it keeps my shame (9 rifles, 12 pistols/revolvers) secret from visitors.

>>49493
Shields seem scummy.
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>>49494
Planning on making it out of an aluminum sheet, 1m x 0,50m with a polycarbonate window in it. With everything i want to add it should come out at around 6kg. Is this fair or too light?
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>>49493
Riot shields are stupid. Kids who use them at the local field always get the pyro or the Tornado and then significantly overshot when they instinctively move away for using them.
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My Russian kit is coming along
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>tfw all your fav guns have ambidextrous fire selectors
>they allways suck ass and break first
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m4a1. local airsoft shop owner modded it for free to look like the CS 1.6 m4a1
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>>49581
I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes this style
Miss me with all the gay sopmod and rails shit, I just want my good old M4A1
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>>49493
Riot shields are smoothbrain tier and start all kinds of dumb arguments. pony up the dosh and get a real ballistic shield.
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>>49586
>pony up the dosh and get a real ballistic shield.
bitch it's fucking airsoft
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>>49586
>that camo
Is there a pattern the Russians don't use?
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>>49581
>carry handle
chad
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>>49507
Definitely a lot more weight and bulk than an Evike shield, so I can understand that somewhat
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>>49581
The 1.6/Source M4A1 is just a standard M4A1, but it does look really nice
Personally have a King Arms M4A1 Advance myself, planning on one day swapping out the receivers for a G&P 723/733 receiver set (and maybe the barrel assembly, because for some ungodly reason despite having a black metal birdcage it's still seemingly glued on stupidly tight) for the Global Offensive "M4A1-S"/more retro AR look
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>>49595
Yeah, and?
You wanna run around pretending you have a bulletproof shield you can pay the toll. Better get lifting, buddy.
>>49507
Too fuckin light. Local field regs call for a minimum of 25lbs but I think that's nowhere near enough.
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What the fuc-... IS THAT AN ACU PATTERN?! STOLEN VALOR! STOLEN VALOR! DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF MY BROTHERS IN ARMS ***DIED*** IN THAT UNIFORM?!! SACRIFICE! SERVE! SACRIFICE! SERVE! SACRIFICE! SERVE!
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>>49702
Sir, this is a Wendys.
And I am wearing a Sumrak.
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>>49697
>gatekeeping in plastic ball tag with toy guns
wew
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>>49707
Im sorry but after you have to deal with enough 12 year olds carrying around a piece of lexan with a nylon strap on the back you get a bit salty.
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>>49708
>12 year olds
Those are allowed at skirms? You're from the states i presume?
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>>49613
That's a good question, but Les (their woodland clone) has been in use with various internal agencies for the last couple decades at least. You might want to save your surprise for Russians using Fleck-D (Danish M81 pattern), Sumpftarn (Yet another German WWII pattern, and in 2012), or my favorite meme, Kryptec.

>>49707
>Being permissive of dumb codkiddy bullshit that breaks the game and creates endless arguments
Full-weight shields provide legitimate trade-offs, and those who pony up to acquire and use them have a vested interest in ensuring they're always allowed, and by extension are incentivized to play courteously and fairly.
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>>49716
Not that person, but where I go, under 18 usually restricted to semi-only days.
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>>47795
Who makes the best shell for an SVD? I wanna do an HPA conversion on one
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>be me, wagieing at a paintball site
>hate marshalling walkon paintball, there's one massive dick who will call paint check and point in the direction of the opposition, to then see exactly where they are when marshals check em
>shouts, rather than shoots, them off the field
>all paintball games are overly competitive horse shite, no one there actually seems to have fun
>coworkers who play paintball constantly shit on airsoft for being full of larpers
>site finally starts doing airsoft as well cause money
>decide I'll play it myself, praying it won't be the same kind of crowd as the paintballers
>tension.jpg
>first game, guy asks if I want to use his SSG24
>third game, I break out the sword I carry on my back, banzai and get the last kill of the game
>everyone laughs and enjoys it
Honestly, I'm so fed up of the paintballers I work with shitting on airsoft. They're so concerned with not looking like larpers, and taking it like a pro sport, rather than an excuse to play milsurp dress up and shoot toy guns, then say we're the ones who take it far too seriously.

Anyway, working this weekend again, hoping I get put on airsoft. Did a group last week, they loved it, my boss was a fucking retard tho, gave them all overly thick armour which lead to god knows how many arguments.
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>>49791
>manchild hobby is full of manchildren

Who'd have thunk it? Is water wet? Does a bear shit in the woods? Are you a faggot? Answers to these and all your burning questions coming up next!
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>>49806
I honestly don't know what this post is trying to say.
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>>49814
"Paintballers are childish dicks" is my guess


I went to play at a somewhat nearby field last summer where I ended up really enjoying the entire vibe. They were relaxed, refs were chill but didn't tolerate horseshit, one had a 400+ fps spring pistol he walked around with shooting people who didn't call hits. Another was a fat guy threatening to remove a piece of clothing everytime he saw someone go out of bounds. They had those giant water balloon throwing sling shots set up to just pepper the playfield with cold ass water balloons because it was over 100 degrees and no one would bitch about getting cooled off before taking a walk back to spawn. Even had a bonfire at the end of the evening where the staff busted out a few coolers with different beers, sodas and such and they roasted brats while everyone sat around bullshitting.

I've been back a bunch since with friends and my nephews and have always enjoyed it. If anyone is close to Tucson I cannot say enough good things about Freedom Airsoft
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>>49493
>riot shield
no
>full sized ballistic shield
Yes, but when taking fire you either have to stop movement or retreat. No invincible advancement bullshit.
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S&T guns any good? The silenced Sterling Mk5 is on sale on evike right now. Talk me out of it.
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>>49830
>Yes, but when taking fire you either have to stop movement or retreat. No invincible advancement bullshit.
I say if you're using a no-shit actual ballistic shield you can do whatever you have the strength to pull off.
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>>49877
>77
checked, just sent it bro
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>>49877
Buy it. Dubs demand it.
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>>49779
Real Sword (pic not related)
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Went to another WWII event, this time there were about 70 people.
While the airsoft community in Japan is pretty good in general the WWII crowd is really great. People play to have fun more than to win.
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>>49791
>be me
Who the fuck else would you be?
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>>50007
A faggot like (You)
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>>50007
(you) must go back
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>>50021
No, people who use redditspeak like that need to go back
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Getting shit prepped for an evening game. Post loads ya choads
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>>49886
Just tape like 40 balloons to the front, and when they are all popped you are out if you are using a shield.
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>>50055
nice rig, its a shame it will never be used enough to get broken in.
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>>50055
How is airsoft an extreme sport? thought that shit was just for larper retards.
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>>50128
It is used as a training tool by right wing extremists.
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>>50055
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>>50139
/xs/ - extremist sports
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>>50126
I mean, everything but the mask and cans has about 16 months of monthly usage at renegade fields and 2 propers in the SoAZ area. Clean your shit after every game, it looks nicer and lasts way longer while making sure you don't have any surprise field failures in the middle of a game.

I've had to repaint that fucking suppressor like 3 times already though because Poseidon didn't prime it for shit
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>>50156
>Clean your shit after every game, it looks nicer
Let not your weapon bear the marks of disuse.
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>>50158
tggi
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Does anyone make an AR-18?
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like the look of the unity optic riser but im not willing to spend 100 thousand hundred dollars for it. luckily i found a 3d model on cults 3d and printed it on PETG.
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>>50186
In 1987 JAC made a few. You're better off trying to get a Daewoo and converting it
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This...is the greatest airsoft gun ever made....
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How do we bridge the gap between milsim and speedsoft?
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>>50223
We don't. Gas the speedsofters.
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>>50221
Why would we want to?

If theoretically there was some benefit to it, proably just encourage speedsofters to wear camo instead of black. There's literally no reason to wear black except it looks cool. Black is inferior even in dark envrionments
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>>50231
>Why would we want to?

Because if these kids keep getting into pissing matches and bitching about each other I'm going to go out of business.
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>>50224
This
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>>50223
RPS limits, game modes where you get longer engagement distances and cqb areas allow grenades. Teach milsim players how to properly flow in to a room and work as a team while making respawns take another teammate to initiate either with a "tourniquet" or a living player allowed to place a hand on the dead player to walk them to a medic or respawn point.

Essentially you want to emphasize teamwork and punish people pretending to be Rambo it John Wick.

Also actively cyber bully all YouTube airsofters
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>>50223
Pretty much this >>50252 to an extant. My field has made the rules and game modes in such a way that playing in a speedsoft style just flat out does not work.

>class based roles, rifleman, saw gunner, dmr, sniper
>only saw gunners get full auto and are caped at 25rps. Everyone else is semi only
>no binary/ramping/blade/double/etc. . . triggers to simulate full auto. Flat and speed trigger setups are case by case basis because we have had people tune them to where the slightest pressure, even from the side sets it off.
>longer format games based around objectives. Bomb plant, attack / defend, king of the hill
>field is built with some longer firing lanes
Combine all that together and speed softers typically run out of ammo, are punished for reckless pushes, and due to objectives k/d means nothing.

We are getting an urban expansion hopefully this year which might make them come, but the ruleset hurts their playstyle pretty bad.
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I really want to build a DMR. My LCT came hot as fuck from the factory and sending those little fucks sailing across the field like angry little bees was so fucking satisfying to watch through my magnifier. Tuned it down to reduce my MED and for MSW regulations but I haven't had time to tune it right up to the limit so it's actually pretty low at the moment and I'm really missing the range I had before. Need to get a sub-joule CQB gun too.
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What's an off the wall choice for an insurgent/terrorcore milsurp primary? I just don't want to be boring and choose an AK.
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>>50268
G3
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i wore my Arctic Avengers outfit through 3 different airports lmoa
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>>50268
get fancy with ww2 guns
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>>50268
Uzi

MAC 10 sidearm
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>>48793
it seems tiger111hk have it, cba to look any further though, gl
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Airsoft is truly on the decline. The paintball thread is higher.
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>>50296
I'd get a Stg but I don't know who has one in stock
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The innner barrel I currently have is 6,08mm 455mm size. Going to buy a longer and thinner one as the suppressor works as an extension for the outer barrel.
Some barrels have "t-hop". Is this anything that I should care about? I have no idea what kind of a hop I got on my gun and can't find info online.
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>>50339
places here in dublin have them in stock
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>>50324
My field has about double the airsofters as paintball, but we are still second class citizens because paintball makes 3x as much money.
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>several airsoft events in the weekends this june
>can't get out of work
how do you cope, shiftworker bros?
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>>50371
>he doesn't have a job where he can call in sick
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>>50406
Do it often enough and they'll hire a private investigator to tail you if you fucked them out of enough money. If you didn't then you'll just get fired.
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>>50371
By getting a job somewhere that's closed sundays.
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AAAAA STOP FUCKING STRIPPING YOU TINY PIECES OF SHITS! Fuck allen screws man.
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Anyone here use exfog? I'm considering switching to full seal eye pro(i-force) and I would get one of these.
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>>50555
Trips well deserved. I hate those fuckers
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>>50555
Fuck the materials used in every single airsoft part ever.
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>>50593
Florida man here. Quite common and see a handful full of people with it every time I play. I personally run the ess crossbow with the gasket kit. Full seal and I have never come close to fogging.
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>>49069
>already have 8 AEGs
>only ever really use 3 of them
>still want to buy G3
It's just not right.
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>>50786
Only 8? Why is your power level so low?
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>>47795
What is the smallest gearbox that has the most interchangeable/common parts (V2/V3)?

I want to make some DIY shit like a sentry gun or RC tank but I'm short on space. Preferably upgradable using standard gearbox parts like V2 or V3.

So far the P90 gearbox looks promising, but annoyed how its hopups are fed only from the top (and are not V2/V3 either, to that matter). Thinking of working around this by 3D-printing a custom hopup. Any other suggestions?
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>>50786
I already feel bad getting a second one
What could you possibly need 8 for?
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Fuck I feel like a retard for wanting unskirmishable WW2 springers but this new SMLE by S&T is tempting me.
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>>50055
For last year's MSW event at GTI. Was a good time. I think I'm going back to Alpine Aire for the food though.

>>50023
>doesn't know traditional 4chan greentext story format
These tourists are insufferable.
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>>50891
I feel you with wanting potentially-unskirmishable stuff; while not a springer, part of me desperately wants one of these to mess around with and potentially make custom shells for
unfortunately, I can't get one because it shoots too soft for import into Canuckistan (340FPS according to Redwolf, minimum is 366) and I doubt any retailer would go through the effort of figuring out if aftermarket inner barrels can be installed in them to exceed that minimum (which seems unlikely to begin with)
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>>50897
>single shot
Now that's a top tier unskirmishable gun right there.
Also I don't understand having a minimum limit for fps at all.
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>>50900
It's the most brain-dead retarded thing I've ever learned about with airsoft laws; basically in Canada airsoft is only permitted under the classification of "uncontrolled firearm", which is basically any non-combustion barrelled "weapon" that expels a projectile fast enough and hard enough to reliably shoot through a pig's eye (or can be readily converted to do so) but not fast enough to exceed 500 FPS and 5.7J of muzzle velocity and energy respectively
Thing is, the minimum the CBSA determined for airsoft is an arbitrary 1.25J, which would be 366 FPS on a .20g BB, and anything that tries to enter below that limit is deemed a replica firearm (prohibited) and either turned back to its country of origin or taken out back and thrown into an incinerator
As a result of this, gas guns, particularly propane GBBPs, entering the country typically have very long inner barrels (some threaded so you can just remove the extension and play with it like that, some without threading but including the original barrel in the box; my KJ G17 for instance had both a threaded inner barrel with an extension and the original inner barrel in the box) so they can get over the limit, and AEGs typically have springs put in to increase the velocity above the limit as well
Works for most common things, issue lies in things that are either obscure, proprietary, incapable of being modified, or some combination of them (ex. that single-shot, pretty much all AEPs, spring shotguns)
The alternative solution involves clear/translucent receivers, but unless the manufacturer offers it themselves that's typically not an option since most retailers don't want to go through the effort of making their own to clear import, and aftermarket ones are rare at best
Because of that, certain guns are crazy expensive up here (guns in general to a lesser extent) because of how hard it is to get them across the border; imagine paying $206.40USD for something like a CYMA springer trishot
Shit's absolutely fucked
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>>50903
Damn that' sucks. We have a limit of 328fps but I haven't had a single gun get checked since I live in eu and buy from other eu countries with higher fps caps.
Does canada really bust out a chronograph and battery/gas to test all these guns or do they just chuck anything without a sticker/documentation saying its higher than minimum joule requirement?
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>>50921
AFAIK they often rely on documentation of what it's chronoed as in its current state, and on rare occasions carry out testing
Whatever they're doing is strict enough to prevent import of things like AEPs and spring shotguns though, and also enough to make non-bulk shipments (read: retailer shipments, rare cases of people that have a shitload of money to spend at once) take a fucking eternity to clear customs, so that's at least apparent
I seriously hope that things change for the better in the future, I'd love to be able to get things like that Contender and the TM pocket-pistol NBBs without having to wait for a retailer to do something to get them into the country at extremely elevated cost
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>>50869
>feels bad after buying merely two toy guns

Look at him! Look at him and laugh!
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>>50903
There's also your little issue of the libs trying to take away the that classification and ban the sport across the country. Hell, even NDP wanna work with airsofters, but the neoliberals like "Sorry bro, that airsoft gun just looks too scary"
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>>50867
Typically when you have limited space i see v6 (p90) and v7 (m14) gearboxes being used. HPA engines can fitnin even smaller areas.
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Whats the better Hi-Capa build, TM or WE?
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>>51121
AFAIK, TM, with KJW being the runner-up, for base guns; most people I've personally talked to have said that WE Capas have a strong habit of being way too off-spec to accept TM parts and also have a habit of killing themselves through things like the outer barrel deciding it doesn't want to be part of the gun anymore or the sears giving out
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>>51121
>>51124
Anyone else in the uncomfortable position of wanting a 1911/2011 but every "Hi-Capa" you've picked up felt like it was made of cast zinc cut with rice krispies and rattles like a baby toy
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>>51169
Yeah. The JG ones literally feel less solid than most off brand nerf guns
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Help, I have a growing need to buy a 40mm underbarrel launcher and I know they are useless!
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>>51189
I have a pistol 40mm and it's a lot of fun for less serious games and popping off 120bbs in 0.06 seconds at a speedy boy in cqb
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Just getting into airsoft.

I'm in the UK so I've got to play a couple more games before they let me buy non-ass looking gats.

What's good to go for to start off, I'm a big autist (if not already evident by me wanting to do this) so I've got a penchent for cold war era weaponry
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>>51236
I got myself a Cyma M14. It is cheap, and aside from some feeding problems it works fairly nice after 3 years. Mind you, the stock isn't real wood and the metal parts are pot metal, but for a non AK cold war era gun, I think this is one of the best starter guns. Mind you, it is long and somewhat heavy, but the aesthetics are worth it
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>>51248
There's an M16 with a triangle handguard in a shop near me by E&C and an M16A2 with the M203 and that heat shield made by Arthurian, are they decent brands?
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>>51256
>E&C
The internals are good, but they're a complete fucking bitch to work on and even worse to try and upgrade. I tried to put a new piston in one I used to own and it was a week of my life with a dremel trying to carve out just enough space in the box to let one fit.

Afterwards I found out its an E&C thing, they're a little tighter in the gearbox than anything else, which does help it be more durable and reliable, but awful for fiddling with and upgrading
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>>51269
I guess I can live with that. I don't think I'll be doing too much upgrading since I'm mainly just in it to LARP as a war criminal and play arma dress-up IRL

Plus the site I frequent is CQB only
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>>51256
E&C are the/an OEM for Arthurian and Specna Arms. They're pretty good for starter guns.
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>>51288
I'm assuming I can just get one and the handguards can be changed like a real rifle?

That's if I can buy the handguards alone
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>>51289
If you're doing that you really want to save up more and go straight for a higher end offering like LCT so you end up spending less on mid-tier or shit guns in the long run. My very first gun was an LCK-74M and I'm glad I didn't beat around the bush.
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>>51306
What would you suggest for that tier of offering if I wanted an M16/M16A1 style AEG then
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>>51307
Not that guy, but if you're after an M16A1, you can't go too wrong with Cyma. It's inexpensive, but the internals are decent, it has a MOSFET, quick spring change, deans connector, steel teeth piston blah blah. I'm not really sure if there are any 'high end' M16A1/A2 replicas out there.

https://www.taiwangun.com/assault-rifle-aeg/cm-009c-mosfet-edition-cyma
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were any of you playing airsoft before le russki memes became mainstream
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>>51311
Thanks man

Just have to work out sessions around work now so I can get my UKARA card
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>airsoft
Cringe, grow up you manchildren. Get into a real combat sport you fat lazy unfit spastics.
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>>51361
"Real" combat sports don't involve playing dress-up.

So no.
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>>51356
I started playing about 10 years ago. Russian kit apart from AKs was rare, I think it was the Crimean shenanigans in 2014 that really sparked the interest.
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>>51356
I hate how any AK with Zenitco parts on it makes redditors screech "OH MY GOD TARKOV GUN!!1! I SAW THIS IN ESCAPE FROM TARKOV!!!!11!" as if that shitty slav jank game was the first to invent Zenitco attachments.
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>>51363
Based. Airsoft is all about fashion and if you disagree with it, you are wrong
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Anyone have experience with the LCT AS Val? How is it?
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>>51356
I airsofted before the interweb became mainstream.

>>51361
>>51363
>>51383
Airsoft - Extreme Cosplay
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>>51356
i dunno lol i just started playing like 3-4 years ago because my brother played
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Who makes the absolute best airsoft rifles (automatic electric or sniper)
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>>51460
Tokyo Marui, in terms of QC, consistency, and general fit and finish. Externally Real Sword and LCT are the the most durable.
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>>51464
Thank you. I had a KWA that seemed high quality and robust on the outside but the accuracy sucked, and a Cyma that performed well in terms of range/accuracy but the stock broke and apparently the Cyma stocks often break (airsoft shop also had a "for parts" Cyma with a broken stock).
Are the three brands you mentioned all going to be better than my two, and perform well in both accuracy/range and robustness?
And is any of those brands better than the others moreso for automatic versus sniper?
Who makes the one in your pic? It looks nice
Thanks
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>>51465
The one in picture is LCT Hk33 it is robust as fuck with stamped steel externals.
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>>51464
Shame many parts even on the best ones are still potmetal. Like the stock latch.
Anyone know where I can get a rear trunnion latch button for an LCT AK? I literally just dropped my rifle in the woods and it bent. Kinda disappointed.
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>>51472
Cool thanks. How are the internals (assuming it's yours)? Good range/accuracy?
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>its another operator larper in full kit has a meltdown and gets in my face because he cant fathom that he missed with his gucci HPA gun and got hit episode

every weekend with this shit, why are they such babies
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>>51481
Did he have a gopro? If yes, get ready to be highlighted on Jewtube as le heckin airsoft cheater CAUGHT ON CAM while the video is layered with excessive zoom in shots and everything is a hitmarker
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>>51479
LCT's internals are consistently solid across their series. Steel gears, full steel tooth piston, metal piston and cylinder heads, sealed nozzles, 6.03 tightbores, etc. The only bottleneck is their mediocre motors.
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>>51484
Can the motor be replaced with a better one from a different company? Sorry if it's a dumb question, I know almost nothing about airsoft guns. I used to play but didn't do any modificiations or maintenance to my guns
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>>51485
You can replace it with better LCT motors as well. Other problem is they also tend to come shit-hot. Might be might not be a problem for you but my 74 came from the factory with a 50ft MED at my local field and significantly over muzzle energy limits for MSW.
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>>51486
So it would have to be another LCT motor or could be another brand too? And is the problem with their motors that they tend to break and stop working completely or what?
>shit hot
As in high fps? That can be changed just with the spring, right?
>MSW
What's that?
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>>51485
It uses regular long shafted motors and version 2 gearbox parts. Only the blowback version has proprietary parts in it. Both versions have quick change spring.
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>>51464
Honestly I find TM to be extremely middle of the road in quality for AEGs, with KWA, ICS, LCT and even Krytac all being better per dollar.

For gas guns TM is mostly garbage though, I've had more breakages from their pistols than anything else.

But all that said, I might just be unlucky with importing their shit
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>>51604
AFAIK their AEGs aren't worth it outside of places like Japan where you're stuck with a low velocity limit as they're designed to perform exceptionally well at those velocities, so slapping a stronger spring into it tends to fuck it up quite a bit without a new shell to go with it
As for their GBBs (at least their pistols), rule of thumb I've gathered for externally-stock Marui blowbacks is to only run propane either in significantly cold weather or with a 125% recoil spring in warmer weather to help with enduring the higher pressure; otherwise use 134a/144a gas in warmer weather if you keep the recoil spring and externals stock
There's obviously also the option of aftermarket metal externals, though

It's worth remembering that TM, like most Japanese manufacturers, makes their guns for the Japanese market; while they've improved their GBB quality over the years (ex. their G19 (2018) and G17 Gen4 (2020) apparently have far better internal reinforcement than their G26 and G17 Gen3 designs (roughly 2005-2006, judging by an ArniesAirsoft post from 2006 detailing the then-newly-released Glock 17 Gen 3), which allows them to handle the higher pressures of propane a decent bit better stock), their guns are obviously made with Japanese law in mind; plastic externals on retail-assembled handguns, velocities typically around or below 300FPS, and designed to run on the commonly-available-in-Japan 134a gas (which can be substituted for 144a gas in countries where 134a is regulated as a refrigerant)
They're made to a quite good standard, but there are obviously going to be shortcomings in some areas that, for most models, can be resolved through considerable aftermarket
At least, that's my stance on it
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>got memed into buying a Recoil Shock
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>>51628
you poor bastard lmao
the NGRS guns are the biggest memes imo, you have to pour an insane amount of money into them just to make them passably functional; in many cases, I've seen them cost more to set up in a passable manner than it would cost to set up, say, any GBBR build to be passable
When it costs Viper Tech prices to make your gimmicky EBB gun passably reliable, it's not worth it imo
All I can say is to enjoy it for what it is if you do end up liking it, or sell it off to someone else if you don't; I have little doubt there will be Maruiboos out there that will rush to you like a coke fiend 24 hours into withdrawal rushes to a distant spilled bottle of talcum powder if you present the mythical-magical EBB system to them for a price below retail
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>>51629
I just really really like empty mag detection and there weren't many other options for that
I really just wish I went with a simple AEG and tuned it up with a fire control mosfet and stuff

>I have little doubt there will be Maruiboos out there that will rush to you like a coke fiend 24 hours into withdrawal rushes to a distant spilled bottle of talcum powder if you present the mythical-magical EBB system to them for a price below retail
Even only test fired it seems like there's basically zero resale value unless I cut the price in half so I'm fucked
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I hate selling airsoft shit on ebay. You get flooded with low ball shit and then dozens of inane questions.
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>>51714
Is it better than r/airsoftmarket though?
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>>51489
Okay thanks
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>>51626
Marui was best back when stuff like dboys and cyma potmetal guns were the only other option. So like 20 years ago.
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>>51716
I dunno, I avoid the taint of reddit at all costs. But I assume the venn diagram of those homosexual communities has a significant overlap
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>>51356
Yes. It was mostly all woodland surplus shit with a few guys looking like mid 90s sof guys. There was a real lack of the hardcore larperators and most people looked like the milita's you saw back in the waco days.
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>>51356
Started in 2010. Was a mix of mall ninja, 80s/90s surplus, and current US military impressions. Pleanty of people copying call of duty stuff as well. My team ran Flecktarn and the Sky Blue Urban Camo for shits and giggles.
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>>51626
This is a pretty good take, but there are always notable exceptions to this: guns that are already going to be mostly plastic, like their P90 and AUG replicas, are pretty good buys, along with their auto tri-shots. Their high end stuff, like MGRS and ZETS, are all quality performers if you don't mind the velocity. Fucking Nip moonrune magic in the hop units or something.

This is the primary run in. Marui guns have range and consistency despite their lower velocities. With the right bb weight and a properly dialed hop-up, they can outperform on accuracy and range next to a lot of their peers, sans the velocity. If you're playing mostly in CQB, they're god-tier.
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Just bought an NPO AS Val lads
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>>49595
Okay onions
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>>51993
I can agree with the P90/AUG high-cycle replicas to some extent if one's goal is to go into CQB with a stock gun, same with the auto tri-shot since that's unique in a neat way
NGRS is a meme imo, almost entirely proprietary for the sole gain of a last-round bolt lock and gimmicky simulated recoil; if that's your kind of thing then I guess it's neat but expect to pay really large sums of money to get it performing well if you want to run it outdoors at range
ZET System looks really nice for a GBBR build, even if not entirely realistic internally; definitely seems to be the most efficient and simple route, has me slightly torn between them (for performance, of course) and Viper Tech (for realism, external build quality and a retro AR of sorts) when the time comes that I decide to get a GBBR of some sort
And yeah, they have pretty good distance performance out of the box; even their subcompact pocket pistols that they've been releasing lately seem to have a surprisingly good fixed hop that can be shimmed to lift heavier BBs decently far for its size and velocity, if my memory of certain blog/forum posts serves well

Personally, the things I currently want to get from Marui are either a G19/G17 Gen4 or FNX-45 for a blowback pistol, and an LCP or Bodyguard 380 for NBBs; they aren't extremely high up on my priority list presently though
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>>51995
Always been interested in those along with the VSS, but swiftly dissuaded by the price tag; post pictures and tell us how it goes when you get it
I kinda wish that a company would clone one of those and not shit like the AY/CYMA versions with inaccurate fire selectors and LCT with weird dimensions; AFAIK King Arms is the closest one without shelling out big bucks, but I'm not sure
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>>52006
It was the rifle I originally had my eyes on when I was getting into airsoft, but I wound up going for an ASG CZ Scorpion. Now I have enough money again where I can get it, plus an extra three midcaps for it. I'm really excited, its a beautiful looking thing and every review for it is glowing.
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https://youtu.be/Kha63bVVlUM this is the look my guys and I are going for lately
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>>52007
I wanted one (even an LCT) but got scared off by the stories about battery cables getting shredded when putting the suppressor back on. Maybe I'll get one someday anyways.
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Gel ball is now illegal everywhere in Australia but in QLD.

I hate the australian government so fucking much.
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>>52086
I'd laugh but it's too fucking retarded and tragic. RIP Aussies.
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>>51995
I always wanted that along with their VSK-94
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>>52086
Guess lazer tag is next on the chopping block?
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>>52124
Can't have people blinding each other with lazers.
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>>52086
You poor bastards now lack a freedom even the Chineses have.

RIP
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>>52086
That sucks, are there many incidents of people toting gel blasters in public or committing crimes with them?
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>>52145
No more than any other country. The gov and police reason for making gelball/airsoft illegal and paintball needing a gun licence is literally "terrorists will use it for training"
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>>52145
Australia is just a more obvious example of the common phenomenon of governments not giving a shit about the people and that live for imposing new laws and restrictions to fuck with the citizens
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>>52086
At least you still got nerf guns.

..right?
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>>52234
You're going to love this; Nerf guns may be next on the chopping block in Australia because they learned you can put gel balls in the barrels of some of them, therefore they may be considered firearms
Australia is an authoritarian hell-state for hobbyists at this point, I swear to God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzx-nciax_k
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>>52086
It's legal in SA, you just have to register them.
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>>52281
>because they learned you can put gel balls in the barrels of some of them, therefore they may be considered firearms
I don't think that's how the law works. The fear mongering with gel blasters is because they're replica firearms, not because of their firing power. Australia still has paintball for instance
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>Pick up game
>keep getting into other team's backine
>keep getting accused of firing into their spawn
>every game they leave their left flank wide open
>end of the day I'm in a polo shirt and pistols capping people as they are walking to the battle lines with a glock.
Three people left in a huff at the end. It can't be this easy guys.
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>>52198
>>52281
Can you imagine trolling Australia and getting bananas banned?

>>52343
>Australia still has paintball for instance
for now....
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I'm gonna get laughed at for this, but I'm looking for a pistols to shoot squirrels in my backyard.
Currently have a Stinger P9, pretty basic springer and 275fps.
At those speeds it mostly just scares them off, one of the squirrels even if you land a headshot on him will just barely hop away like you are annoying him.

I like the tiny little colt that was posted earlier in the thread but 150fps seems like it might be too low, and the squirrels with just ignore me.

Recommendations?
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>>52462
please don't hurt aninmals
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>>52463
They are more likely to hurt themselves when they chew/break the bird feeders and fall 20 feet to the ground ontop of/in a large piece of angular metal.

Most of them barely even notice the pellets.
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>>52468
I'm okay with it if you make little goggles for them so you don't hurt their eyes
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>>52462
Don't use airsoft for this. A regular bb gun will work much better
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>>52486
I think I'd prefer to stick with a lower powered springer pistol.
Isn't a regular bb gun going to far higher powered?
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>>52487
And even then it might not reliably kill them. You want something like a Gamo rifle.
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>>52490
I'm not actually trying to kill or injure them.
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>>52493
Pussy
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>>52495
They are fun targets though, not any fun when they are dead.
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>>52497
You just throw them over the fence, nothing to worry about.
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>Just bought an NPO AS Val
>LCT finally moving forward on making SVDs two days after I place the order
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New thread tomorrow
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>>49877
S&T guns are a pain to work on, as all S&T guns have custom gearboxes and they are not built to last. S&T capitalizes on the novelty of WWII gun replicas. They are not very reliable.
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>>52462
>>52468
>>52487
>>52497
>>52498
The literal beginnings of a serial killer.
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>>52518
They're varmints, you're supposed to kill them. No different to roaches.
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>>52519
no they're fluffy friends
seek mental help
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>>52525
Whatever you say, city slicker.
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>>52526
I live in the middle of the woods
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>>52518
Original question anon here, I really have no intention to kill or injure. Its sub 300fps spring pistols from a considerable distance to stop the fuckers from destroying more bird feeders.
A fast moving small target is fun to take a couple shots at once they start running.

That other anon though.....
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>>52537
Elite Force H8R or WE Glock

don't hit the poor things eyes and don't cause unecessary harm

if you end up wanting to actually hunt them just get a cheap .22 or a hunting grade bb gun, or if your low on money use slingshot
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>>52537
bro you're not gonna stop squirrels from squirreling.
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I'm going to buy a real sword SVD when i get money
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>>52537
Go the other way. Steel reinforced bird feeders.





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