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As long as your bottom leg isn't being pinned or held on to in some way you're free to just stand upTry it and you'll see
I had one of my nuts get mashed into my leg a few days ago and its tender and keeps wanting to go back up there. I can pull it down but it goes back in there eventually. Cold weather isnt helping. Its not the most painful thing but its definitely uncomfortable. Has anyone had this? How long did it take to heal?>>171627Lately ive been really effective with the georgian grip. Pull them down and to the right and into Ouchi Gari
how to tlel if you have a concucsison
>>171645Might be torsion. If so, won't heal itself. Your nuts are literally in a knot.
>>171717Kek, I'm glad I'm not the only one to think that about BJJ/Judo Fanatics. Frankly it's embarrassing that it is the most popular online instructional store. Shit looks like it's giving you malware every second and will probably steal your credit card info.
>>171719deleted my post because I figured out I had to turn my phone to landscape in order to give the Checkout button enough space to appear (?), guess I'm being punished for being a filthy phonefag
How do I start in judo as an adult? Any red flags to keep in mind when looking for a place?
>>171761Just find a place that has classes 2-3 times a week and go to them. Red flags would be a place that does no ground work (that doesn't also teach BJJ)
>>171720bittorrent is your friend
>>171761>how do I do judo as an adultGo to a class retard
>>171645You should probably get that checked if it continues. I have a big nutsack and it's always been the most annoying thing during groundfighting. Had to get a groin cup because I kept getting hit in the balls. I was basically fighting at 50% because of it. Have to protect those fellas.
>>171720no it just took 5min to even get the option to add it to my cart with a desktop, it not a lot of time but it should not be that bad
>>171627If he just let go and the guy fell back down would it be ippon?
Nobody ever seems to know the rules of this sport, someone please explain to me if we are on the ground and I stand up to pass is newaza over? Someone said once there needs to be at least 2 and 1/2 feet on the groundWhat the fuck is half a foot? It's either on the ground or it's not
>>171879>no force>no speed >lands squarely on his back Yuko, maybe wazari
>>171948>these are the people I share a general withJudosisters…
>>171941>yukoAnon, I don’t know how to tell you this…
>>172130looks goofy, like a first day white belt trying to pull off a seoi-nage
>>171627My dojo always emphasizes training our big turning throw and I've been working on uchi mata, but mine still sucks majorly and I find more enjoyment out of drilling and hitting simple ashi waza. I've been working on my sticky foot kosoto, de ashi barai, sasae, and o/ko uchi gari.Am I going full retard by wanting to practice ashi waza instead? For context, I'm only yonkyu
>>172299Real niggas do what they wanna do, bitch niggas do what they can.
>>172299Uchi mata is not an advanced throw that takes a long time to actually git gud at. The real answer is train both.
>>172334>*uchi mata IS an advanced throwI don’t know what I was trying to write lol
>>172334Counter point, uchimata is advanced if you're trying to initiate itBut it's simple with how often people just run into it themselves and you just give a quick floop with the legI think it's the most common turning throw in bjj when people run around to the back but don't let go of there grips first
>>171627>>171629>>171630>>171632>>172130>>172420>>172421>>172423Nice BJ- I mean Judo.
>>172429Where do you think bjj came from, retard?
>>172431helio gracie saw that judo wasn't effective for smaller people so he invented leverage in order to beat larger opponents. that's how he managed to defeat kimura despite kimura being at least 75lbs heavier and 15 inches taller.
>>172437That’s how it happened in the minds of the Gracie family
>>172437>>172461>You see anon, just because we brought a casket and tombstone for the 25lb heavier kimura to the ring doesn’t mean we intended to Win the fight, per se. Instead, this was a moral victory because helio was able to withstand being rag dolled by 70lbs kimura for several minutes before finally having is arm broken like a retard who refused to tap. If only kimura wasn’t 150lbs heavier then helio wouldve won easily with his superior jiujitsu that no one saw between him being thrown multiple times then pinned and submitted. Damn that 300lbs heavier kimura!
>>172429>>172431>>172437Don't respond to bait
>>172553What a pathetic seoi nage.
>>172553Don’t tell me what to do
>>172482Honestly, even challenging Kimura to a fight was a massive fuckup that just left the Gracies looking like self-inflated jackasses. It would be like an amateur wrestler assuring the world that he can defeat Alexander Karelin. Your ego must be massive to believe you can simply call out a legendary guy and beat him, and at his own game.
>>172421Isnt this more daki wakare? Tawara gaeshi would be more front on wouldn't it, plus it was against a turtled opponent which is textbook daki just different angle
>>172437Lets all remember that is was 75lbs MINIMUM, Helio was only 5 feet tall and sick with bone cancer at the time and he still won with an insane americana. Crooked Kimura paid off the judges and then Helio's arm broke and the bastard Kimura claimed moral victory even though he was beaten moments ago. But what can you do, they wanted to hometown hero to win.
i did my second day of kosen judo on tuesday. we didn't do any randori, just a lot of throws and double leg takedowns. it was just me and one other guy and our teacher, so it was 1 throw for 1 throw all night. my neck is still so sore i have to turn my whole body to look to the side. i do ninjutsu but i'm cross-training in kosen judo now :) thanks for reading everybody
>>172654>kosen judo>ninjutsu>anime girl avatarWho are you supposed to be? The new pomf?
Theoretically, what is stopping someone from running around their opponent in circles to unbalance them and execute a throw?
>>172767Not having autism
>>172662who's pomf? i'm not familiar with these threads. i'm just a guy who does bujinkan ninjutsu but is cross-training in kosen judo now
>>172781Old /asp/ namefag/troll who would post the most retarded shit imaginable always with an anime avatar. Also I don’t believe you do kosen judo unless your an English teacher-San. Also ninjutsu isn’t real
>>172767just stand still and then rotate once they tag.
>>172783my teacher was an english teacher-san for 10 years, but i'm in america. it's true that you can't do ninjutsu for real anymore, but you can practice recorded martial arts from the sengoku jidai.
>>172654>>172781>>172840There's only a handful of places that do kosen judo and they're all in Japan. I sincerely doubt you actually do kosen.
>>172840> but you can practice recorded martial arts from the sengoku jidai.Lmfao, you’re probably not even doing real kobudo. Ninjutsu, which is to properly say bunjinken taijutsu, is actual made up nonsense with no real lineage
>>172869>bunjinken taijutsu, is actual made up nonsense with no real lineagei would say it's the martial art hatsumi masaaki created based on what is, at least, believed to be sengoku jidai martial arts passed down orally. and who he learned everything from is written down. when hatsumi sensei dies, the bujinkan will probably cease to exist. that's okay. we do randori and sparring and it works in that environment, and i like it, so that's all that matters.>>172848well like i said, my teacher learned it in japan. he's a black belt in kodokan judo and bjj, so maybe he just makes us do judo + lots of groundfighting and calls it kosen judo but i don't see why it would make a difference even if that was true.
>>172840just roll with cops with taihoujutsu, its essentially effective martial arts made for apprehending people with judo, jiujitsu and aikido applications if I'm not mistaken?Also why go back with martial arts that are being practiced when you can always do Kudo which is modern approach to basically how one should roll with Okinawan Karate and Judo.
>>172849he did a strike in Sambo you can't do a bend arm takedown I think.
>>172767>have to go through the effort to run around in circles>person youre circling just has to turnin theory if you have an endless gas tank yeah, run around, but judo as its taught in a practical sense is more about being quick, witty, deceptive, and in as few steps as possible because the more time you take to do somethign the more time your opponent in theory has to come up with something to deal with you
>>172897>but i don't see why it would make a difference even if that was trueKosen isn't just ground-heavy judo. It's a specific team-based format whose meta evolved around that. If you're not specifically training for kosen rules, you're not doing kosen. You're doing regular judo.>>172906No striking involved. It's an elbow weave grip that should be Judo-legal.
Is it legal to shoot for a single/double leg in turtle?
>>172995Once their knee touches the ground you are allowed to grab the leg. It won’t score you ippon though.
Would it be rude if I wore a shrunk BJJ gi instead of a conventional Judo gi during practice just to have the advantage of not being to be gripped as well?
Why cant judo fags admit their roll over ippons are bullshit
>>172933> all this bullshit> real olympic judo, muscle with no stratK
>>173143>bullshit How? Go back to bjj general you autist.
>>173141That’d be retarded since you’re actively making yourself worse at the sport by giving yourself a needless advantage during training. You can wear it during comps so what’s the point
BJJ friend. Was rewatching early UFC tournaments the other day. Royce's ground game was not spectacular compared to modern BJJ fighters.Wouldn't good newaza fighters be stronger than he was? Who were the best in his era? I know Yoshida eventually beat him, but Yoshida was not great in MMA either.Would old man, retired Yamashita be able to beat him in the ground?
>>173210Neil Adams could've given Royce a tough time. Yamashita was VERY good at newaza and was only 36, hardly a dinosaur at UFC 1's inception. Though he would be nowhere near his prime. BJJ groundwork has progressed so significantly in the past 30 years. Particularly US BJJ since collegiate wrestling has been incorporated into it.
>>173210 They knew full well what they were doing when they didn't invite any judo or wrestlers
>>173221I'm nowhere near a Gracie nuthugger but that's bullshit. Ken Shamrock was a legit shootwrestler thanks to his training with Funaki and Suzuki who also wrestled in high school. They had Remco Pardoel who had experience in judo (and some traditional Jujutsu). Christophe Leininger was on the US judo team. Dan Severn had long experience in Greco and Freestyle. The early UFCs were definitely meant to market BJJ to US audiences in its style vs style format, but to say there wasn't an element of Royce being in danger against other grapplers is horseshit.
>>173230 Shoot wrestling is fake, it's different from shoot fighting, He was a shoot wrestler which is entirely scripted it's the Japanese version of pro wrestling. It's just less bombastic looking Learning how to perform moves on stage from people that know how to fight is different from actually knowing how to fight yourself He Didn't find out it was a Real fight until the night of the event when he walks in the building and asks who's supposed to win the match and they told him no you're Really fighting this guy
>>173221>>173231Ken Shamrock is very legit. Just look at the amount of fighters he beat.
>>173231Shoot wrestling is long involved in works in Japan, but they legit know how to grapple and submit. Shamrock even admits that he underestimated the gi and how it could be used as a weapon, hence how he got choked against Royce the first time. It's why I loved Pancrase because the vast majority of its bouts were legit and it obviously tested shoot wrestling in a non-scripted format. The few works were in the beginning to help market Pancrase and carry over newbie fighters to establish cred. It just frustrates me that Japanese MMA is so backwards now when they were experimenting and innovating in the 1980's and 1990's via Shooto, Pancrase, and other proto-MMA concepts.
Is it bad I don't want to compete? I like Judo for the knowledge and exercise, but am I being disingenuous to myself by not competing? I just don't see a reason to.
>>173236Do what you want no one else cares, not saying that in a mean way, no one gives a shit what anyone else does, if you only like to practice and want to keep sharp for self defense against your local union worker than that is up to you. It is bad if you wanted to be an olympian however.>>173210That's a super hard question to answer, like everything in life it depends on the person and every situation isnt the same, Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki probably would have dog walked Royce. But even today you see one sided bounts but then the same fighter that got their ass whooped can comeback and whoop the others ass
>new gi arrived in mail>too big its over
>>173305Shrink it nigga
>>173346Wash it and put it in the dryer
>>173350how much will they usually shrink? i wear a 4 and it's about a size 4.5YY
>>173353about half a sizeI wear an A2.5 or A2H out of the bag, so I buy A3s and run them through the dryer
>>173367Alright, here's hoping.
>>173305Instead of shrinking it just send it back and say it was too big ask for a smaller one. Most companies will let you do that.
>>173556nice bjj match
>>173579Is this the new bait? Anytime judo goes to newaza it’s bjj now? I thought you faggots said judo didn’t do enough newaza?
>>173580why would you post purely newaza content on /judo/? i know its a part of judo, but why not post someone throwing someone in spectacular fashion? it's not even that good of an example of newaza, i think you just wanted to post two chicks wrestling on the ground.
>>173579>>173556oh my god this is trash. I've seen BJJ white belts better than this
>>173581First of all I didn’t post it. Second you’re autistic and should probably be lobotomized.
>>173583Well why don't you put a name by all of your posts so I people know when to call you a fag.
>>173581>why would you post purely newaza content on /judo/?Variety.>but why not post someone throwing someone in spectacular fashion?I have. I only got 1 (You) for all of them and it was a mass reply shitpost. >i think you just wanted to post two chicks wrestling on the ground.I'm literally the only guy making webms here. If you want to see other stuff than make some webms yourself.
>>173592these webms aren't very good
>>173596you have a hard drive full of bad judo videos
>>173600you know what yeah i am fuck you
>>173586>advocating for namefagingWhy don’t you just leave the thread instead of having an autistic meltdown
>>173592I like your webms, webmanon. Pls keep posting them
>>173605Why don't you go fuck yourself.
>>173618>Why don't you go fuck yourself
is training judo, muay thai and bjj a good combination?
>>173621Yeah, now go home and get your shit judo webms
>>173592Thanks for posting the webms anon
>>173635Sure, why not? Those are all good combat sports that blend well together and even if they weren’t who cares? Do whatever you want.
>>173636Stay mad at other people posting judo in the judo thread I guess lol
>>173635training 3 martial arts at once is shit normies think makes you a good fighter
>>173645training in general consistently makes you a good fighter anon...... >>173643yeah im going to try muay thai out, i've done bjj and judo before and want to see what its like with striking involved.
>>173645How do you think mixed martial arts is trained for, retard?
>>171713Try and type fast for 1 minute and see how many mistakes you make. That's a good start.Other way to tell is if you have swooshy feeling in your head constantly, you'll know it.
>>173582both could tap you out.
>>173680I doubt that, maybe if they catch me off guard with a throw
>>173652That's the old way, now that MMA is a sport in it's own right you just do MMAYou have generic striking and wrestling classes and will not become particularly good at either
>>173736>training martial arts desperately is old and stupid>now we do things smart by training striking and wrestling separatelySo it’s exactly the same? Thanks for clearing that up, retard.
>>173556BJJ fren here. Why didn't the blue girl tap sooner? There was no way to escape that.
>>173808Look at what the big words say behind them. People have a hard time giving up at that level and age combination
>>173809Not like us cool adults who give up.
>>173826Or who make passive aggressive anonymous remarks like a big boy.
>>173802It's not the sameIf you have goals of doing MMA and you sign up for judo classes you're actually retardedMaybe 10% of what you learn there will carry over if that much
>>174030>let’s move the goal posts to continue this argument where I’m both wrong and retardedHave your (you)
>>174008>>174012Brutal. Fucking sucks to lose like that
>>174010he didn't sweep with the sole of the foot, bit rude innit?
>>174213Shit happens in shiai
probably a retarded question but do you guys have any tips on washing a gi effectively? the thing has probably spent more of its life in my washing machine than on the mats and yet the armpits and neck are still stained yellow with sweat
>>174353Wash on cold with bleach, let it hang dry. Have you not been bleaching your white gi?
i bully new guys with my sub-par kouchi garis, sasaes and hiza gurumas because it makes me feel like a big man
>>174353Dont use deodorant, the chemicals are the reason for the yellow stains. Wash your armpits with water and soap before training and you will be fine.
>>174507>don’t use deodorantNever change, 4chan
Don't mind me, just posting the superior O-soto.
>>174607that does make sense, seems like blocking both legs would help a lot more than reaping just the weighted one. i'll have to try this variation.
>>174545if you don't wash yourself regularly and instead try to cover your smell with Deodorant, you are the dirty peasant here.
Why are dojos teaching kids drop seoi nagi? I saw so many kids driving other kids heads straight into the mat. The ones who do it just spam it like its the only move they've been taught. Why also is it not banned outside of brown or black belt divisions, or at least for kids?>>174671Yes, please. And floss.
>>174671You can shower and use deodorant you weirdo>>174675A lot of low and mid level students spam it because it lets you cheat kuzushi by throwing yourself on to the floor without having to put much effort into setting up your opponent. Honestly as a coach I think you’re really better off encouraging your students to work other throws since too many plateau when they start thinking drop seoi=free win
>>174675>>174695The first throw I learned in sambo (I'm an adult) was drop seoi nage. The logic my coach used was that it let the uke feel their tipping point and when they hit the point of no return. They also got to practice forward rolls. Tori gets an intro to triangle theory. Meanwhile in judo I was taught standing throws first to avoid getting the bad habits you all mentioned. Difference in training methodology maybe?
>>174675Lifting throws are extremely difficult when there’s a large size difference, which there usually is in any juniors class because of how they grow at different speeds.You can pretty much always be confident that the kids will be able to drop seoi their opponent, even if they’re bigger than uke. Getting kids with a foot of difference in height to do a standing throw in randori can be very difficult.
>>173581>why would you post purely newaza content on /judo/? i know its a part of judoYou answered your own question, tardy
how to maintain mount? there's this crazy Russian in my class who always escapes when I mount him. mind you, I weight 100kg and he's a bit smaller than me
>>175022How is he escaping?
>>174831Imagine if you walked into a club talking about houses (Judo) and the only thing you had of value were pictures of uninteresting foyers (ground work). We all know that foyers are great and are a crucial part of a home (Judo), and hell they even have clubs talking about foyers (BJJ). But why not share those foyers in the foyers club (/bjj/)?
>>175063Stop trying to make this retarded argument. No one is mad about newaza webms in the judo thread except for you you dumb fucking sperg
>>175080Dumb British insult, enjoy your foyers nigger
>>175082>BritishThe fuck are you on about schizo?>enjoy your foyersI will, thanks. I love webm anon
I've been trying out the Georgian grip but I'm running into a couple of problems: I can't seem to stop them from rotating around to my back, and under BJJ rules I seem to be getting single legged a lot from this position. I have been using this video as a reference: https://youtu.be/KBKdqAMOIAEI managed to off-balance my training partners with the sasae, but I couldn't get them to trip completely. Probably just need more practice.If there are any Georgians here that can give me a few pointers on this grip and what made it work for you, that'd be cool.
>>175040Somehow manages to get on his side and end on my half guard. He has a lot of power.
>>173144>with no stratThe strat is to go all out because ideally if you're going for gold that means you're running a train through dozens of peopleSo it's in your best interests to win fastThe body gets really fatiguedThat said at Olympic judo when everyone is going all out, the only thing separating everyone with Olympic class conditioning and exercise is fucking technique and practice and obvious talent
>>173236You should probably try some kind of competition , free is great and my gym has an inhouse tourney twice a yearIt's more a BJJ thing but it's still a nice chance to toss someone down or test skills against wrestlers if they don't pull guard
>>173592old ass leg grab based throws would be pretty basedI wouldn't pay those tards any mind, whether judo likes it or not, many throws land beautifully into fundamentally strong grappling pins, and bjjtards thinking that ass scooting their way into position are genuinely fucking insane
>>175098Are you breaking and controlling their posture? How are you moving them?
>>175127Posture control and movement are probably where I'm messing it up. I tend to remain static when I get the grip instead of immediately launching an attack.
I tried to Uchi Mata a 110kg guy and faceplanted. I'm 73kg
>>175098Sumi gaeshi works a lot on BJJtards with their fucked posture but ultimately if you are good you can do pretty much every technique with them. if you opponent is much taller than you you are wasting your energy imo
>>175311>Sumi gaeshi works a lot on BJJtards with their fucked postureSeconded, ken ken uchi mata is also a good option.
>>175211Are you grabbing the belt as soon as you can? Try getting a collar grip with your left hand and then using that to break their posture before you reach over with the right hand to grab the belt. It might help you out to already have them off balance so you can just keep working off that.
>>175311I've been hitting a lot of sumi gaeshis as a counter to the single leg lately, since my training partners have started to adopt a more upright posture after I would repeatedly snatch the belt grip, so I've had to start pulling them down to the Georgian grip.>if you opponent is much taller than you you are wasting your energy imoYeah, I've noticed this too. Definitely doesn't work well on taller guys.>>175326I've been grabbing their collar with my left hand, pulling them in and sidestepping to get the belt grip. I guess I could try to stabilize the position a bit first before grabbing the belt.
>>175738>no no no no no, come back come on
>>175738>bjjfag trying bullshit
>>175738This is exactly what every drop seoi fag deserves
>>175762going face and belly down is about as judo as you can get
>>175738giving a georgian the fucking georgian grip is basically the worst thing you can do in judo
>>175797The famous "Ass and neck grip" guess country.
>>175738>just picks him up like a sack of potatoesFucking lmao
Good evening /judo/,I think contracted some kind of athletic herpes complex from somebody during last practice and I'm not chipper about it. Anyone else in this boat?
>>176425No, also, go to a doctor retard.
I'm recovering from the flu. Is it okay to go train with a little wet cough?
I did my first judo tournament this sunday. I competed in the -90kg class against brown and black belts (I'm an orange)In the first match I was against a very skilled lefty who threw me immediately with a morote seoi nage, thankfully I managed to fall on my side and used my newaza skills acquired by crosstraining bjj to do a tight clock choke which made me win.in the second match I was against a not so skilled opponent and I landed a beautiful ippon seoi nage.in the third match I was against a IJF ranked judoka who was obviously superior to me and skilled even in newaza. I really got the sense of not being able to attack, I was losing by shidos so I tried an hail mary left ippon seoi nage but it failed and he choked me.in the match for the third place I was against a strong friend of mine who also trains in my gym so I was not aggressive as I wanted to be and he did two wazaris on me by harai goshi.considering it was my first tournament I didn't do too bad, I understood that my special move is ippon seoi nage and that the high grip just isn't for me. I also need to master the deep underhook position and ouchi gari and kouchi makikomi to really improve my game.
>got my first big turning throw off in randori Feels good to have finally hit this milestone
I don't understand at what point I'm supposed to go into Ne Waza during randori. If my (or my opponent's) back hits the ground then it's all over right? What if I/he falls to my/his side?
Hey mild mma fan here that wants to start grappling, I am stuck in between no-gi bjj and judo so I just have a few questions,how is the damage to your fingers?Judo is fairly cheap due the olympics but is there an impact on the classes because of that?what do you think of the future of your sport?How are the tools to learn out side of classes (i.e. videos, guides, books)?Do you think no-gi judo going to become a thing?Is it normal to pay for 6 months at once?
>>177005>no-gi judoit wouldn't be judo, just do grappling
>>177005>I am stuck in between no-gi bjj and judoBoth are worth doing, but the one that takes precedent depends on your goals.>how is the damage to your fingers?It's not that bad. Judo fingers is real, but not enough to dissuade you from doing it.>Judo is fairly cheap due the olympics but is there an impact on the classes because of that?Depends on where you are. In America there's the unfortunate perception that cost = quality. Many judo clubs in the States are run in rec centers and/or non-profits for cheap. They could have great instruction and one would think the low barrier to entry would entice more people, but it doesn't work that way in practice..>Do you think no-gi judo going to become a thing?No. Nobody can even agree on what no-gi judo should be. The "official" no-gi judo scene in the US is like 5 schools spread out over 2 states in the Midwest.>How are the tools to learn out side of classes (i.e. videos, guides, books)?There's plenty.>Is it normal to pay for 6 months at once?That's a long time for a contract, but not necessarily a red flag by itself. Do they only do 6 months increments or is it an option?>what do you think of the future of your sport?There's a lot of doom and gloom about the way the IJF is running the sport. I'm not a fan of the changes they've made/are making, but the sport will survive. For all its faults, judo is the most popular grappling art in the world by a wide margin.
>>177118BJJ is the most popular right now, it's the harsh truth
>>177135BJJ's popularity on a global scale is overrated as people falsely extrapolate its popularity in the west with its popularity worldwide. Estimates of the number of BJJ practitioners in the world is around 3 million while the number of judoka in the world is estimated around 40 million. France alone has 800,000 judoka and that's only counting active registered members if the NGB.
>>177142I don't believe those statistics at all
>>177135it's normalcore now so you have more people trying it out but its horrendous attrition rate persiststhe situation is less dire than it was 10 years ago but there still aren't enough black belts to go aroundI don't think I'm out of line to say a majority of bjj classes don't even have a black belt on the mat let alone teaching the classthat's part of the reason instructionals are such big business. There's more people interested in learning it than there are people qualified to teach it. Judo doesn't have this problem, if you want to do judo you can find a black belt no problem
>>177116Yes>>177118>Both are worth doing, but the one that takes precedent depends on your goals.mainly stand up grappling throw/slams are cool and submissions look neat.>It's not that bad. Judo fingers is real, but not enough to dissuade you from doing it.good to know.>Depends on where you are. In America there's the unfortunate perception that cost = quality. Many judo clubs in the States are run in rec centers and/or non-profits for cheap. They could have great instruction and one would think the low barrier to entry would entice more people, but it doesn't work that way in practice..So it up to school, should have know.>No. Nobody can even agree on what no-gi judo should be. The "official" no-gi judo scene in the US is like 5 schools spread out over 2 states in the Midwest.damn I thought it had legs.>There's plenty.Nice I like learning solo, Any names? >That's a long time for a contract, but not necessarily a red flag by itself. Do they only do 6 months increments or is it an option?That there only option>There's a lot of doom and gloom about the way the IJF is running the sport. I'm not a fan of the changes they've made/are making, but the sport will survive. For all its faults, judo is the most popular grappling art in the world by a wide margin.neatthank you for taking time to answer me
I really wish my dojo weren't such sticklers for the rules so we could practice no-gi and leg-grabs once in a while.
>>177215Rules were made to be broken.
>>177215Kano would very ashamed of how rigid and gamefied judo has become
These have probably been posted here many times but anywayhttps://youtu.be/NMx71BmFBXshttps://youtu.be/WnVfnxNncvE
after 1 year of work I finally got a drop ouchi gari on a moderately skilled opponent
>>176959Ogoshi, usually I don’t like getting my hand around their back but it just ended up there by accident desu and the rest was easy
>>175738>watch full match>the ref fucking waved off the ipponcan someone explain? how the fuck was that not throwing the guy with speed, force and control?