What's the difference between savate and kickboxing? Like I know traditionally savate didn't include punches, only slaps and toe kicks, because a closed fist was considered a deadly weapon at the time, but these days punching is allowed so what's left to differentiate it?
>>161641In savate you mustn't use your knees and shins, which means you can only kick with your feet and you need to dodge low kicks in other ways than checks. Also, in savate you fight in shoes and goofy ass clothing.
Anyone know where to get some good savate shoes??
>>161641shoes and frenchmen>>164573https://www.savatelive.com/
Are there any savate gyms in Southern California???
>>165829Yeah, next door to the Bokh gym and across the street from the Irish collar and elbow gym.
>>165829Southern California is one of the only places you can actually train in savate in America. Nicolas Saignac is the highest ranking savateur in the US and is based in LA. I believe CSW in Fullerton also offers savate in affiliation with him.
>>165843Do you were exactly Nicolas Saignac gym is if he has one? I’ve been looking but can’t seem to find an address.
>>165958I think he mainly does seminars and private lessons nowadays. Try emailing him.
>>161641Savateurs don't use their shins or knees - they strike with their feet, and the boxing aspect in it is primarily more for defensive work. The offense is in the kicking. Lots of toe kicks and heel kicks, and in those thick plastic shoes they hurt like a bitch. Savate fighters also have a few kicks you don't really see in kickboxing, namely stomps towards lower joints - turns them into career-enders if they're spiteful enough.I wouldn't recommend it simply because outside of those oblique kicks, it's just not conducive to martial arts in a broader sphere of martial arts since toe kicks fuck up your feet without conditioning or shoes.
>>161641Pretty good vid right here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hviZeCISWQA
>>169289Sauce?
Didn't expect this thread to still be up after all this time.So what about Sanda? I know it's supposed to be based on traditional chinese martial arts but it doesn't seem all that different compared to western kickboxing.
>>169363it's rules are more comparible to Muay Thai than western kickboxing. Throwing, elbows, knees etc.
>>169363Sanda is like kickboxing with sumo. You get the most points for pushing someone off the arena (reference to lei tai). You can also get many points for a throw.
>>169363Sanda kick catches are amazing
>>165831I think its actually in the same area as all the Lethwei dojos and the Bartitsu schools
>>169363well its basically what >>169393 said, the only change its its approach to training, which looks more "traditional" (lots of drills, lots of conditioning), they also train some interesting techniques but most of them don't work with the ruleset.also depending on where you are learning you might have to learn a traditional style or form alongside sanda.
>>173634Sanda as a sport is kickboxing plus wrestling. You can shoot for a takedown but there's a time limit for how long you can stay tangled before ref separates you. Kicks can be caught and swept. This is one area it's better than kickboxing in ONE. Catch and sweep scores higher than strikes, takedown counts for 2 points, but if you go down with the opponent you only get one. 3 contact points with the ground counts as a takedown
>>161641Savate is pointless unless you live in France, just do Myau Thai.
>>173676Muay Thai*
>>173676Why is it pointless and why would living in france make a difference?
>>173713bigger competition and prize pool in France.
>>173676Naw. I mained in MT (in actual Thailand) and picked up some interesting tricks by training and sparing against a buddy of mine that mained Savate. Its a repectable art
>>169289It's ogre for chang.
