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this thread is to discuss street workout and it culture,mainly things such a statics, dynamics, handbalancing, gimbarr, street lifting, etc .
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>>1566
Is calisthenics part of /SW/?
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>street workout and its culture
isn't that just busking, i.e. begging with more mental gymnastics
or physical gymnastics in this case, I guess
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learn the straight handstand
https://youtu.be/h7RvK2jh4u0

learn the planche
https://youtu.be/3N63S6shAv0

learn the front lever
https://youtu.be/H_cR0beKHvg

start your gimbarr journey
https://youtu.be/di_tQp9AmO4

learn the iron cross
https://youtu.be/HAZ1-mpmnKc

start dynamics
https://youtu.be/zER7HQzIAZc
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https://youtu.be/FrPwruNO4sU
https://youtu.be/fWg3AeW0zKE
some motivation
>>1583
its kind of gymnastics, but there's alot of difference, its called street gymnastics in some places
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>>1566
what's extreme about this shit lol it's just gymnastics for poor people. Go back to /fit/
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>>1690
looks pretty extreme, plus we have always been here, just moved to /fit/ because thread couldn't last 3 minutes in wrestling filled /asp/
>>1573
calisthenics is wide term that include thing like gymnastics, parkour, climbing,street workout
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>>1921
>little nightmares 2.jpg
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bump
https://youtu.be/1tio4k-k0Qs
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DYEL GENERAL
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>>1566
/fit/ is that way faggot

NOT extreme
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>>2563
go back pls arnold poster
>>2593
see >>1921
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>>1921
calisthenics impressions are just doing basic army stuff like pushups, situps and squats. >>1690 >>2563 >>2593

might be better if we rename this to /GS/ - Gymnastics Skills and discuss how to train for planche, levers, some insane ring skills, etc >>1623
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>>4060
cool ides, what about street gymnastics ,because this isn't a bout statifs only, most of thing you seebin sw aren't even related to gymnastics
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>>4415
anything about extreme skills should be fine, what i had in mind is mainly based off the og2 charts.
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>>4666
typical "guy from 4chan" take. i'm talking about normies in general.
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Fuck off, this belongs in >>>/fit/
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Gymnastics isn't considered an extreme sport. Why should the inferior poor people with no talent version of gymnastics, be considered an extreme sport? It doesn't make sense. Go back to /fit/
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>>4690
>>4666
its pretty extreme on your shoulders, also check
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>>1921
hefesto is such a retarded exercise. It doesn't look that good and the risk of injuring your shoulders is very high.
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not really, if you don't have mobility and strength it dangerous, but not like entrada de diablo (the gif) which is extremly dangerous on shoulders comapred to entrada de angel, hefesto is another movement
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>>4685
>normies
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>>4666
or russian gymnasts who couldn't qualify for the national team
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I think I did something to my left shoulder.

Basically, everything feels heavy on it now. At the beginning, I thought it was just muscle soreness, but it's been going on for too long. I feel a pain everytime I do something with my left hand that involves the left shoulder, usually around my mid delt and my rotator cuffs. Like for example, if I wash my car with my left hand, my left shoulder fatigues in a matter of seconds and I've to switch to the right hand. Any idea of what that could be? Did I do something stupid and injure my shoulder?

Also maybe you lot should continue on /fit/, because here the thread isn't active at all compared to how it's on /fit/
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>>6456
hang more, you could try to lift your hand stroght over head and try tk reach the sky, lift it as high as possible, hold for a while, other than that you can do table rocks
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>>6456
although it's more active on /fit/ most of posts afe " what routine" "lifting is better" "how many push up"
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>>6461
Thanks anon, I'll do those exercises.

>>6465
True but there are still some interesting posts here and there.
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What are some points someone trying to learn a planche or at least a straddle planche should consider that are often ignored and that you wish you knew when you started training?
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Should I do this :
>L-sit 60s for 5 sets
>Compression work 10s for 3 sets
>maybe some hollow body holds variations

Everyday to develop the core strength required for calisthenics skills like the straddle planche, the V-sit, manna, etc...?
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executing proper scapula, basically neutral spine, engaged serratus anterior ,just try to get your back to look like this while doing planche lean ,this is absolutely important, avoid spine arching which people call hollow, its bad, also focus more in planche lean, also search lab coat fitness planche pressure points
,don't train it daily, master handstand and back lever
>>8808
not really, compression helps at v sit, but l sit isn't that effective unless weighted, do l to v leg raises, manna doesn't need as much core strength as it need pike, for straddle planche train your lower back through rev hypers and supinated back lever
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>>6456
you've strained your rotator cuff retard, you shouldve stopped as soon as you felt it. leave everything for 1 month
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>>8881
Damn I'm so stupid
>1 month
That's a little too much. I'm going to lose my gains. Can't I just avoid exercises that use my rotator cuff a lot?
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>>8881
>>9042
And thanks anon.
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>>9042
tendon tears usually take 6 month,1 month is short , do what this guy says >>6461
but add rotstor cuff rehab such as laying side dumbbell raise, search it up, and rest for month,
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>>9093
Thanks again anon
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>>9042
>>9046
As long as you don't lose weight you won't lose strength. If it's a minor injury then a month's is enough, if it still pains after one month then rest it longer. I called you a retard because it's just not worth working an additional few weeks through the pain because it'll set you back months. Do some rotator cuff prehab exercises sporadically for high reps with low resistance. Continue until pain free then slowly ease back into your routine.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RvK2jh4u0

This video claims that I need to have confidence in certain exercises before attempting an handstand. I can easily do most of those prerequisites, except the tuck planche. Is it really not possible to learn an handstand if you don't have the tuck planche?
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>>9773
nope, handstand is preq for tuck planche.
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>>9143
Yeah I've started doing some rehab. Thanks again anon
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alright fags did we move here or has no one made a new thread on /fit?
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>>10548
moved here because lets be honest /fit/ sucks
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What's the point of calisthenics?
The beginner-intermediate exercises, like push ups, pull ups, air squats etc... are too easy for any long term gains
The advanced exercises, like planche, handstand push ups, front lever etc... are too complicated for most people and are more about skills than practical body abilities. They are nothing but party tricks. Someone with an heavy OHP has stronger delts than all of those calisthenics fucks who do planches and one arm handstands and shit, his actually body abilities have actually increased, it's not just skills.

So to people who love calisthenics / gymnastics / street workout / etc...
What's the fucking point? How is it "functional" as you people love to say, to hold a full planche? How does that translate to the real world and day-to-day life?

You are training skills, not your actual body....

>>11055
You suck
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>>11401
/sw/ trains for gymnastics style skills, which already requires a lot of strength so most of our exercises will be predominantly bodyweight in nature and supplemented with other equipment like bands and weights.
>actually body abilites have actually increased, it's not just skills.
its not like you can do a handstand without giving your body the ability to balance on your hands in the first place retard, and that unlocks skills like the hespu.
>How is it "functional" as you people love to say, to hold a full planche? How does that translate to the real world and day-to-day life?
nobody I know does a planche for functional strength, its just you. this is more of a personal challenge to most of us, a goal to reach on their sw journey.
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>>11401
s the fuck if you want much strength muh functional muh muscles go back to your shit board ,call pic related a skill,and i can explain how to do it details, but i bet you don't have even half the strength needed to perform half a rep, this is sport you fucking retard, next you will say that skateboarding is useless because it doesn't work biceps ,there's literally no one who achieved full planche who isn't crossfit retard that will tell you it's functional, reminder that every single lift isn't as functional as a mere farmer walk, now cancel your membership and go work in a fram you dumb retard
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https://www.youtube.com/c/RyanFord1/videos
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>>11401
>blah blah calisthenics useless
I do calisthenics because I enjoy doing it
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>>11401
> They are nothing but party tricks. Someone with an heavy OHP has stronger delts than all of those calisthenics fucks who do planches and one arm handstands and shit, his actually body abilities have actually increased, it's not just skills.
So to people who love calisthenics / gymnastics / street workout / etc...
What's the fucking point? How is it "functional" as you people love to say, to hold a full planche? How does that translate to the real world and day-to-day life? You are training skills, not your actual body....

Retard take. Skills like planche and front lever are maybe 20% specificity, and 80% strength. They’re strength based movements, and they’re no less ‘functional’ than the sloppy half rep bench pressing you do.

And tell me this nigger doesn’t look as good, if not better than 90% of /fit/

https://youtu.be/OwJYP4qe_UU
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currently feeling mild pain on my left arm when doing negative ring muscle-ups, around the part where i'm practicing transitions from the bottom part of the dip down to a hang. how do I fix it?
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>>14063
muscle up is quite hard on elbows, do it with floor assist and rest until it heals
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>>14566
thanks. i'll also add some rehab exercises just to be safe
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Calisthenics / street workout / tricking / parkour etc... is just gymnastics for untalented poor fucks who can't actually do gymnastics, tumbling, trampolining, still rings, etc...

It's for amateurs with no real talent for the sport, and for ghetto / third world trash.
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>>15356
shit bait,two out of the four guys who can do carmona in the world sre sw athletes, floor maltese is more common in street workout than in gymnastics, you're comparing sport done by kids in park to kids who will spend their entire life, with best drugs and trainer and equipment, yet the poor fags are still shining and their community is grow bigger with something gymnastics lacks, which is creativity,still rings code of points add new move two or three times per year, while every week someone creates a new creative and hard movement
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>>16222
This

Kids in the streets being creative and determined, teaching themselves how to do those skills and creating new ones themselves
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Rich kids in a gymnasium listening to a coach hired by their parents
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>>15356
>t-those calisthenics fucks!

t. low test beta who loves sucking cock
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>>10245
This isn't a lever.
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>>18091
if elbow lever stop begin a lever for using one arm than one arm fromt lever isn't a lever too
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>>18192
this isn't english
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What equipment yall use?

Personally :
>My bed (occasionally put it on the floor for handstand and flip practice, for safety)
>Gymnastic rings
>Pull Up bar
>old broken bookshelf speakers that I use to increase ROM on some exercises
>two solid armchairs and a metal bar that I use to have a lower pull up bar for some exercises(skullcrushers, front lever progressions, and inverted rows mainly)
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>dynamics
Hi,
Recently, I've been doing calisthenics. From that I started developing an interest for the more explosive part of gymnastics, like tumbling. However, I'm a poorfag, so paying to learn those skills at a gymnasium is out of the question. People say you can't learn tumbling without a coach, but I see people who are into tricking for instance do skills that are quite close to what you see in tumbling. So now I'm interested in tricking, since it's more "street" and poorfag-friendly. Breakdancing too, maybe.

The problem is that most resources to learn tricking are YouTube videos. I don't really like learning from YouTube videos, I prefer an ebook. It's mostly because I don't always have access to the internet, and I can't just download millions of videos, my hard drive will be full.

Is there any written source I can download to learn flips, kicks, vaults, etc... ? I can't find a single "tricking" ebook out there.
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>>19393
im not aware about ebooks, but you may need to use YouTube but anyway check this
https://www.loopkickstricking.com/tricktionary
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A quick search of Steven Low reveals a Youtube demonstrating his prowess in gymnastics skills. The verdict? Shabby and weak form. A poor front lever and an even poorer iron cross. An incomplete manna. An incomplete v-sit. A very poor rings handstand. He would make a sub-par collegiate gymnast, at best. I want to know why the author teaches exercises that he cannot do, such as manna, maltese, and butterfly pulls. He does not have any qualifications for these skills.

Surely, at this point a reader might be wondering, "Well, gymnastics coaches can't do what they teach their kids to do, so why should it matter that Steven Low cannot perform these exercises with top-notch form?" To this, I want to bring up Low's choice to demonstrate exercises using drawings instead of pictures of real people. If he had used pictures of people he's taught to do these exercises, from his Gymkana troupe or elsewhere, I would concede the topic. But, we are left with drawings and Low's statement that drawings work better than pictures. Bull. The truth is, and I think we all really know, that Low is not qualified to teach advanced skills. One look at the C and D skill section of the book will show that his progressions for skills like maltese are a hypotheses, not tried and true progressions. It's idiotic, really, to sell something to a consumer that hasn't been proved. And, frankly, I'm disappointed and annoyed

Speaking of lies, I found one 10 minutes into reading the first chapter. Low provides the reader with a repetition continuum and explains that 500 to 1000 repetitions of an exercise promotes cartilage rehabilitation. What Low forgot to tell the reader is that this fact has been derived from studies on dogs. Yes, dogs. No conclusive studies concerning cartilage rehabilitation at high repetitions have been done on humans. It begs the question, Steven Low, why are you providing us information concerning dogs and masking it into a book for human strength? Why are you, in essence, lying?
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>>20021
My next issue comes to the title of Chapter four - "Maintaining Structural Balance". Structural balance. Hmmm? Structural balance is a term that Charles Poliquin invented decades ago. He pushed the concept through certifications and articles and has put a lot of work into this concept. But Low doesn't mention that this is someone else's concept. Give credit where credit is due. It's a matter of respect. Don't use someone else's work without giving credit.

But wait, there's more! Steven Low talks later in the book about a method called Grease the Groove. This method was coined, developed, and pushed by Pavel Tsatsouline. Once again, Low does not mention him and give credit where credit is due. He exposes the grease the groove method in its entirety and doesn't mention the inventor of it at all. bravo, Steven Low. A great demonstration of your moral character.

The nutrition part is horrible. I want to avoid revealing the details of the book, but my primary concern is a lack of sources listed. Actually, throughout the whole book, where are the academic sources listed? Oh, that's right. Nowhere. This book is listed as, "...a highly systematic and scientific approach, Steven delves into the exercise physiology behind strength training..." but it's hardly scientific. No sources at all - no credit where it is due to the researchers from whom Low gained his information. Hardly scientific, don't you think? Furthermore, everything is listed as a fact, even though I know (because I have read the research and I had my fair share of academic lectures) that a lot of what Steven Low says in the nutrition section is not a fact. Research alludes that these nutrition guidelines that Low gives us could work, but research does not prove they work. But, no, Low didn't explain that. And judging by the quality of the book, I doubt he even knew. It's embarrassing. He tell us to do X, Y, and Z. But does not explain why X,Y, and Z work, and he does not list sources
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>>20022
The handstand section of the book is also complete and utter nonsense. According to a gymnastics standard (read: gymnastics. Not capoeira, not street workout, not yoga) a lot of what Steven Low wrote is false. He gives lots of tips on the gymnastic handstand, many of which are only partially true or completely false. He also has a section on one arm handstands as taught in equilibre (though, he only teaches the svecha one arm handstand, most likely because he can't actually do one arm handstands nor has he probably taught anyone). But, equilibre is different than gymnastics and once again, many tips do not apply. I wish I could explain what is wrong, but I cannot do that without giving away information about the book. I just want to say to Steven Low, don't teach things you are not qualified to teach. And I assure you, the method Low explained in order to achieve the svecha one arm handstand is not a method that equilibre schools rely on solely. There are many complex drills and mobility elements required to attain this position. None of which were given. Why? Probably because Low has not been taught in equilbre, though he still tries to teach it. And judging by his Youtube videos, his handstand is nowhere near what it should be according to either the gymnastics or the equilibre methods. His handstand has a long way to go. It is beginner at best. The entire book section on handstands is crap. The equilibre section on crokodile/one arm elbow levers is also not worth your time.
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>>20024
And then we get to the rest of the skills in the book. Much of what seems to be just taken from Christopher Sommers old book, Building the Gymnastic Body. I'm talking exact same progressions. yea, okay, coincidence? Probably not, considering Steven Low used to be a member of the Gymnasticsbodies website. And a member, might I add, who was not too appreciated avid members of it at the time, such as Christopher Sommer himself and Ido Portal. The Felges and kips section of the book is also useless, in my opinion. Actually I'm, not sure if the handstand section or the felges section is worse.

I could go on and on, really. Discussing more lies within the book and completely false information. I didn't even get to discussing the section on injury prevention. But, once again, it's as bad as the rest of the book. As bad as the author's editing skills.

Unlike some other people on here, I have no allegiance to any of the fitness 'gurus' that parade around the internet. Steven's book will not give you gymnastics strength. It will lead you to street workout type of stuff, at best. This is simply not how gymnastics is taught. If you want street workout stuff, be my guest and make the purchase. Otherwise, there are better places to go. If you want gymnastics, go to Christopher Sommer. If you want equilibre, go to a circus school - there are many good, cheap ones around the English speaking world that will teach you more than the basic svecha and crokodile and that will teach you properly. There are even better schools in Europe if you can access them. Overcoming Gravity is one of the worst purchases I've made. Speaking to you as someone in the field exercise science and physiology, go somewhere else.
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>>20022
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>>20025
pls go away coach sommer,jokes aside i have read this before in amazon reviews ,malese progression have been done and one of strongest street workout athletes in maltese learnt it that way
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I forgot, learn cartwheel before you try handstand
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>>21099
>learn
bro, people actually learn to cartwheel? That's a skill I learned when I was 5 lol. I mean my cartwheel isn't perfect but I never thought people actually learned to cartwheel, it's kind of a basic move.
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>>1921
is this played reverse?
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>>4850
n00b here i-is this bad?
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>>21398
yeah, that's how to tear your shoulders to shreds
>>21389
https://youtu.be/K6cKwS64EwA
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>Be me
>Trying to learn the handstand
>Do this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZWSQSSEjE
>... because Antranik said it was better to do that before trying the handstand, as a warm up and prep to avoid injuries
>The next days, I feel a pain in my wrist, particularly my pisiform bone
Fuck this stretching shit. I've been doing handstand push ups against the wall for months and never got any problem. This warm-up was supposed to protect me against possible injuries and pain, to bulletproof my wrist, but it's what actually gave me what I guess is wrist sprain. Now I can't practice for handstand and planche without feelings a pain in my wrist. For handstands I can manage but it's very annoying when trying a tucked planche.
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>>22355
the only wrist warm you will ever need its novel wrist movement ,some wrist circles, frog stand, planche lean
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Guess some people here may have some experience with that

>>23594
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Cant keep my legs straight during tucked l-sits and leg raises, already do compression work, what do?
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>>23667
Mobility work. You need to stretch or something
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>>1566
does anyone else get leg cramps from stretching?

I'm getting close to doing full side splits and something in my deep gluteal region is cramping hard.

Is there some way to fix this, or do I just have to power through it?
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>>24293
foam roll or massage ball
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>>24293
get some magnesium
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>>24540
I took a magnesium supplement and waited a while and did some other leg stretches. Tried again. It seems better now. Thanks.

>>24446
sadly, this didn't kelp.
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What are some calisthenics chest exercises other than push ups and dips? I want to try something different to "shock" my muscles

I would do chest flies but I don't have the equipment(rings) necessary for that right now.
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>>25478
this is more of a /fit/ question anon. try changing your form in pushups, dips where it works the chest more. also you can always use weights or bands to isolate chest
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anyone here working towards rings full planche ?
>>25478
extremely wide push ups, and if you have some floor you can slide on you can use pillow and perform chest fly or deep push up
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What are some stretches I should do to be able to straddle press into handstand easily?
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>>26657
work in pancake and pike, and you handstand more
flexibility make it easier but it need strength to be done
t.can do full pancake and pike but can't press because shit handstand

https://pastebin.com/UBeQg2r1
last link is good pancake tutorial

also check yuri mamerstien videos
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>>26718
Thanks anon!
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>>26950
you will only get it gradually, so very gradually
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How often does /sw/ maintain their cam buckle ring straps? I currently brush it every month or so to get rid of accumulated sweat and chalk. I also clean each spring with lubrication and check if the teeth are worn down but so far they still bite down hard enough.
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>>2593
this
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>>1921
this shit looks like if there was an adult goosebumps, where the main character liked to do barstar stuff too much and a gypsy cursed him to do calisthenics backwards
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>>27065
aaaaaaaaa david packer is like 5"11 and got it one year

i wish i can just do a supporr, lean forward untill i end in maltese without bothering with iron cross and other moves
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJDNa3Pocog
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>>27146
Seems like a good story idea. The inverted barstar. It could be a manga

Toritsu basutar no boken!!!
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>>27814
this is more dancing than street workout, go check @kingkong3857 and hefesto girl
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>>1925
>>5684
>>21389
>>27146
>>27816
https://youtu.be/K6cKwS64EwA
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https://youtu.be/nJ-yvNN0gyg
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how i train swallow / maltese planche:
main exercise
>maltese lean on floor (elevated is better)
>support hold in rings, then lean forward
>bands /pulley assisted
>strap on forearm iron cross press to maltese

accessory exercises
>box maltese
>japanese handstand
>rings bicep curls
>cross pull out
>straight arm pelican
>pelican curl or any hefesto progression
>zanetti press with DBs
>straight arm rings fly

>form
go stand infront of wall ,keep your back and body as straight as possible, hollow you chest, protract and depress you scapula without curving your back, put your hands wide and angled, this is how you maltese should look like

before training maltese i recommend having
>really strong iron cross, around 10s if possible, no false grip
> soild straddle or full planche,better if it's on rings
>rings handstand
> 30s or more supinated back lever
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>>2593
This please actually this board is for our point contact karate and our rollerblading only ok be respectful of the board culture next time ok sweetie?
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>>1566

WHEN I HIT

EVERYTHING IS
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>>11401
It's fun, looks cool and it gives you a killer body and discipline.
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>>31896
box maltese
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>>33187
>gives you a killer body
you mean it gives you a DYEL body that makes you wanna kys
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>heavy OHP has stronger delts than all of those calisthenics fucks who do planches

fshspu are harder than a 1pl8 ohp

OAPU is a 2X bodywieght pullup

the amount of raw force on a straddle planche is more than 99% of humanity can generate

Plus the ladies love it. Your loss kiddo lmao
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>>26657
don't care if daddies' issues, would smesh
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>>27158

see you in eight years :^)

>>27814
I guess pole dancing is calithenics...

>>38273
>>38275
most impressive





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