/HEMA/ General - Nudism Edition>What is HEMA?HEMA stands for Historical European Martial Arts, sometimes also called Historical Fencing.It's reconstructing how to fight with swords, daggers, polearms and other weapons based on old European fighting treatises>What does it look like?Inside the World of Longsword Fighting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zueF4Mu2uMBack to the source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DBmNVHTmNsMartin Fabian Sparring - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8QlbKfX84k>Where can I find these treatises?https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Category:Weapons>Where can I find HEMA clubs near me?https://www.hemaalliance.com/club-findershttps://hroarr.com/train/clubs-gear/club-finder/https://ifhema.com/ifhema-members/Previous:>>117089
>>138271Everyone knows nude fighters are the most bold
First for Sword & Shield being the only weapon set I care about and it having virtually no actual historical documentation.
>>138288Read the bolognese sources dumbass>but that’s not muh medieval knight’s sword n’ boardDo you want to fence or do you want to LARP?
>>138297So you’re a LARPer then? Got it.
>>138297>Not taking advices from people who've been at war with each other for several generations
>>138297>muh vikangz sword an' shieeet
>>138303>>138341>>138345>Being this assblasted by the superiority of German fencing systemsSorry Italians, but white men actually solved the problem of sword fighting years ago
>>138346>superiority of German systemsBut there isn’t a German sword and shield system to draw reference from. You’re fucking retarded not doing the “only weapon set you care about” because you think some hypothetical German system would be better than an existing bolognese system. >ur mad thoMy club is primarily a German longsword club. Quit larping and start fencing.
>>138346If you're so assblasted about it not being German, then study the bolognese and then attempt to apply the german principles (single time counters, moving opponents off line into your own) in it. It's not historic, but you're not gonna get that, so do it anyways faggot. If it's martial and works pressure tested then it's good, imo.
>checks the thread after winning local tournament.>the /xs/pecial needs kids are flaming about historical sources again.>closes the thread and reads Revelations of Rapier again.why are you guys like this?
>dividing German and Italian when it all had roots Holy Roman Empire This is why we have blacks in Europe.
>>138524Because it’s 4chan you stupid faggot. That’s what you’re supposed to come here for.
>>138547>cock sucker>and cum swallower
Late to the party, but is cane fighting HEMA Recently found a facsimile of picrel in a bookstore and seems legit enough to give you a basis, it even gives instructions on how to fabricate a rudimentary dummy.I want to learn beginner woodworking and make myself a cane to practice this. I trust the manuscript, but I don’t know yet if it’s reliable.
>>138630Yes it’s HEMA. No idea if that book is good or not though
What's a good source for information on axe techniques? Two handed, hand axe and shield, dual axes and throwing axes.I want to know how these things were really used.
>>138630Can you show the page about the dummy? interesting shit!
>>138720Hatchet was a back up weapon if you lost your spear, those two were carried side by side plus a tool to cut down wood if you had to.
>>138720The only axe thing we have sources for are the pollaxe, a type of late medieval two-handed axe that is designed to be used in armored fighting. There's plenty of sources for it though, "Le Jeu de la Hache", Fiore and many german masters like Kal shows stuff for it. But you won't have stuff like early medieval viking or frankish stuff.Maybe there's stuff about boarding axes in the late 17th, early 18th century.>dual axesMost certainly not a thing in practical terms.
>>138744There are manuals for Hungarian fokos (shepherds axe) fighting as well. I’m surprised we don’t have any sources for boarding axes. We have drill manuals for cutlass.
>>138739I was figuring that was more often the case, so throwing it out there to see if someone would prove otherwise.>>138744Thanks, I'll be looking into that one to see what I can find. Probably close enough to a Dane Ax to answer some of those questions too.>>138758I'll have a look at those too, thanks.
>>138738Upon revisiting the instructions, turns out to be a bit vague. I was excited about my first HEMA book and oversold it a bit. Nonetheless:>This dummy is indispensable in an exercising room. It is composed of an oak board coated with leather or wool and stuffed with [horse] mane or cotton stuffing, giving it the shape of a round and tight body. It also features two strong staples to fix in the most convenient spot of the room.>The shape of the dummy is oblong: 130 centimeters long and 40 wide in its higher area, gradually slimming down with a final width of 30 centimeters. [...] Furthermore, it is provided with springs on the inside which give it the necessary pliancy to bend and return to place when hit.
>>138790>Probably close enough to a Dane Ax to answer some of those questions too.Nah it's probably not close in its wielding. First of all, there's almost half a millenia separating the dane axe from the pollaxe. The pollaxe is a complicated construction with various bits (usually four or five weapons in one package), but mostly the use of the spike on top and the spike at the bottom is pretty essential in a vast selection of techniques, weapons that are absent in the dane axe. If you focus on striking with the axe bit maybe, but it always takes into consideration the rest so...The Dane axe and the Pollaxe are quite different weapons. The Halberd might be closer to the dane axe as it is.
>>138271Anyone have sources for sword and pistol fighting? both flintlock and revolver. Seems like it was the standard equipment of officers for like the whole early modern period, 1600s to 1800s, but its rarely discussed. Of course, I dont expect there to be a full on dualing system given the nature of it and of officer's roles, but do we know what where the common methods of engagement with it? would sword be held out and the pistol up like when pistols are at the ready by themselves? in close range? or would the pistol be held at the hip and forward in a quickdraw position so it wouldn't be in the way of their sword arm or close to the opponent?
>>139159Michael Hundt has a gloss where his solution for beating a better swordsman was to just cap a motherfucker. There’s also a naval treatise by a guy who I can’t remember the name of who, despite contemporary naval training at the time, said the best way to engage the enemy was to draw your sword first invade you need to defend yourself, then draw and fire your pistol, then hang on to your pistol to use as a defensive tool by bracing it against your forearm (almost like karate Tonfa). Apparently at the time the British navy was teaching sailors to draw their pistol first, fire, dispense of their pistol, and then draw their cutlass. I wish I could remember who wrote this treatise.
>>139179feel like his name was a food name, bacon or something. also, I think it was les the british navy "taught" them to draw first, and more that it was just more common for people to do as such naturally.
>>138914Some of Fiore's pollaxe techniques are very applicable and effective to a dane axe, chiefly beating an opponents weapon up with the back of the head to follow with a descending cut. Works even better with a dane axe due to how much lighter and faster it is
>>138271Found this, thought the first quarter hour was relevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Fp8KD6t4E
>>139316>chiefly beating an opponents weapon up with the back of the head to follow with a descending cut.I mean you're not wrong then again this technique you can learn to do it with a sword as well so...
>>139179Pistols were designed with a heavy handle once you fired it you could use it as a club