uoıʇıpǝ uʍop ǝpısdn>Should I start climbing?Yes. It's a good workout, and it satisfies the instinctual part of you that always asks "I wonder if I could get on top of that?". Find a climbing gym near you and give it a go. Focus on bouldering at first. Going alone is perfectly fine.>How do I start toproping?You have to learn how to belay. Almost every climbing gym has toproping courses if they have toprope walls. You will also need a belay partner--this is easier to find than you think. Just chat with other boulderers or approach someone alone on the auto-belay.>How do I start bouldering outside?Buy a crash pad and look for nearby boulders on mountainproject (or your regional equivalent). Don't be stupid and always have a descent plan. Prepare to be humbled.(Eternally remembered as /bog/)Old thread >>130882
Feels like these threads have way more rope climbers than boulderers. Anyone else getting out on the short stuff recently?
>>137580the whole point of climbing is getting up things you couldnt otherwise using your skills, techniques and gearif its a boulder 99% of the time theres some easy way up and down the whole 5m so the whole endeavour is pointless whereas lead climbers can look down on you from heavenly heights
>>137581>t. climbs 5.6 trad and walks off the back
>>137581I've had sport and trad climbs put down by euro mountaineers similarly. "Why climb this 30 meter cliff if you can just walk up the back?"
>>137580Love bouldering and hate rope climbing (because afraid of heights)What really shocked me is how weak rope climbers are, they climb the hardest shit for 15-20 meters but fail easy boulders I could do after a few months.How? I just don't get it
not gonna let this one slip....if you know what i mean
should i get protein powder with collagen even if im not doing hangboard exercises? does it even do anything extra?
>>137580Usually I just boulder in the gym and rope climb outside. The bouldering gym is cheaper than the rope gym and I'd rather fall on the rope than on the pads outside.
>>137627This article does a great job summarizing the state of knowledge on collagen supplements:https://www.hoopersbeta.com/library/should-climbers-take-collagen-supplements-make-an-informed-decisionBasically: collagen is better than nothing, but not necessarily better than plain protein powder. We just don't know yet. I wouldn't spend any extra money on it.
remember, don't be an /asp/ieHere are some classic lies back when /asp/ was a board>I was climbing v6s in 3 months gais>5.12s? Only took me half a year to get, easy>man, I've been climbing for a year and a half and plateaued at 5.14s, how do I get better?>v7s? Oh I climbed one of those my first day in the gym lolBe true to yourself, don't be an /asp/ie
>>137652my gym sets soft ass v7s sometimes just to let retard fatasses feel good about themselves.i think if people feel like their training regiment is not working they give up, and the gym loses moneyi think from couch to v7 takes at least 2 yearsfrom couch to flash v7 takes another year imo
>>137656>my gym sets soft ass v7severy gym does, climb outside to calibrate and/or board climbing
>>137578Just copped a pair of these, what am I in for?
>>137663A good climbing shoe, toebox feels a tad loose (only one strap/tightening point) but it is fucking solid, good for most everything until you hit v8s. If you have those, don't ever blame the shoe or I will hunt you down and do retard 4chan user things to your body
>>137580Got our pads ready and waiting for some more snow to melt before heading out. Really excited to get goin>>137608For the same reason you'd have no chance leading up those 15-20 m routes without 5 breaks. It's a endurance and technique game, bouldering is strength and coordination
>>137656>i think from couch to v7 takes at least 2 yearsMaybe if you start out training for bouldering really hard from the get toFor most people, no way. I read an article where the author had sent out surveys and the average first 7A was after 5 years of bouldering
>>137679>the average first 7A was after 5 years of boulderingfucking hell, I'm gonna be stuck at 6C and 6C+ for 3-4 years????is 7A that brutally hard?
>>137679>For most people, no way.I agree, I think its only possible if you have really good genetics for climbing. At minimum couch to 7A is two years though. I see a lot of leddit posts that they did their first v10 after 6 months to a year of climbing. No fucking way. Your tendons would 100% explode
>>137692Nah it's very individual of course. Imo it's after 6B+ the difficulty starts ramping up and you'll have to work more for it, so just stay consistent. Get volume on all types, project on your strengths and you'll prolly get a 7A in a year or two. Also I've generally found 7A's to be easier than 6C+'s. Anecdotal, but my friends tend to agree >>137697I agree. If you dig a little you usually see those people have been in the elites in other sports their whole lives or something like that though. They're at least used to an extremely high training load
>>137580Bouldering just doesn't do it for me, by the time I'm getting into a climb I've topped out.
>>137578I sprained my 4th digit on my left hand now I get a stabbing pain in my forearm whenever I put load on that specific finger. Taking anti inflammatory and resting it but sadly no climbing for like a month, doctors orders. Feels bad bros
how are ocun shoes? theres some ocun oxi QC/S shoes with a good sale for like 60usd do you think it might be worth it as first shoes?
Trying to transition from indoor bouldering boomer to outdoor. Every single outdoor problem is borderline a free solo or its a sit start that I can't do. All internet advice is a vague recommendation to practice sit starts. Thanks fuckwit let me practice something I can't do by doing something I can't do. Anyone actually worked through this with real training advice beyond git gud?
>>137750Train sit starts.You dont get better at them by avoiding them.Also pull harder
>>137734>first shoesDefinitely get them anon, good training wheels and if you stick to the same basic shoes for 1-2 years, you'll understand more about what you want out of a shoe as opposed to retards who buy new shoes every other month and constantly blame their fall on them
>>137734good advice: >>137763I think you should get a standard flat shoe like scarpa helix in a comfortable size for a year or two, then get into something a bit more aggressive. After your first pair of aggressive shoes die you will realize the difference and what you really want out of a shoeI would stay away from undersizing or shit like solutions for your first couple pairs. It is not worth it and the feet are usually good enough that you dont need a really aggressive toe or to feel the rock
>>137750Outdoor bouldering is fucking hard. Skip the sit starts and do the rest of the problem. Also if you're a boomer then just get into rope climbing; bouldering is for the youth.
>>137707Try icing it too. RIP, hopefully the month break goes by quickly
Got some athletic tape and committed myself to attempting crack climbing in my gym today for the first time. Managed to ape my way through the 5.9 hand jam route and 5.10 fist jam route, took my like 20 min each and my hands are beat to shit but holy fuck am I in love already. Excited to keep practicing until I can send them and hopefully do some outdoor this spring/summer. Still totally lost on how to do finger jams though, couldn't even do a single move -- any advice for progressing?
>>137679I went from couch to v7 after 2 years and am projecting v8 now at 2 years 7 months. I was very overweight when I started and have lost 50lbs since starting and quit drinking last year too. My good friend got me into climbing and he is very strong so my goals has been wanting to get strong enough to work the same routes he does. Honestly, getting into climbing is the best thing that's happened to me, currently I'm taking a course to learn trad climbing.
>>137679>surveys and the average first 7A was after 5 years of boulderingIs a 7A on the Moonboard the same as a 7A outdoors?Indoor grades vary A LOT so I'm not sure if it's worth working towards indoor 7A (e.g. there's a gym in my area where 6A is around the level of 6B/6B+ in most other gyms)
>>137804>Indoor grades vary A LOTDamn right, in my gym they even vary from route setter to route setter. Most are baby first wall, then comes in this niqqa Alex and a V0 feels like a V10
>>137804what degree? Benchmark or non Benchmark? 25 can be somewhat softer 40% somewhat sandbagged
>>137679>>137692most people climb/boulder wont even reach a real 7A everhighly depends on your overall physical condition when u start and on how much effort you put in at 1 times/week its hard to even get there at 2 times/week its doable in 1-3yat 3 times/week + finger training its 1-2y at 7´s it starts to become all about finger strength which is the slowest to build, it´s far less hard if bodyweight is really lowif you can do 3-5 pullups you have enough upper body strength to do 7A, - start finger Training (hanging from small holds first then pull ups on them, if easy move to a smaller size- explosive pull ups, try to get as high over the bar/hold as you can- core stabilization
does rice bucket training work for finger strength? want to do something small while still training finger strength without being too risky with hangboarding for example
>>137795>I went from couch to v7 after 2 years and am projecting v8 now at 2 years 7 monthsoutdoor? that's pretty impressive if so
>>137828>rice bucket trainingif ur an asian peasant maybe, just no, get one of those rubber rings to train it´s cheap af and transportable
>>137819Atm onyl doing benchmarks at 40° but still stuck at around 6B
>>137837>rubber rings to train it´s cheap af and transportableis there one/shape you reccomend or just find the cheapest one?
>>137828get one of the small block hangboards (tension block is an example) and lift weight from the groundvery easy to manage the load and can start as light as you want
>>137846the basic ones that look like a small donut are good, not sure what other shapes they have
>>137661I've read before that the soft grading goes up to V4/5 and then it's a little bit closer to where outdoor grades would be
>>137878it also depends a lot on your gym. if you go to a big commercial gym in big city california vs small tiny hardcore gym in czechia the grading will be... different
i'd suck sean bailey's dick just to have miho nonaka's dead vagina skin cells inside mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4QB_MAUWvA
>>137905this manlet won in life
For those of you who have La Sportiva Miura VS shoes, how much did you size down (if at all)?
>fingers getting pumped before anything else need to lose weight>eat less>have no energy climb like shit, plateauedrelease me from this purgatory
>>1379203 sizes and its a bit like like a gym shoe cant wear them too longshould have done just 2
>>137922Oh, I only did 1/2 size down and I was worried that was too much lol... these are my first aggressive shoes, mainly gonna use them indoors. I do ~2hr climbs usually
>>137831This is /xs/ we don't go outside lol but I usually just rope climb outside because I don't want to hit the ground if I fall. 5.11a has been my repoint outside but it's been cold and wet here for the last couple months and I think I could climb harder next time I'm out. I've only climbed on basalt and tuff so I wonder if granite would let me climb harder
>>137878I think it might depend more on what the setters themselves climb outdoor. If the setter is a v8 climber then maybe it feels pretty soft until you get to an 8 and it just feels way harder since the setter is trying to mimic the difficulty they are currently working on.
https://www.youtube.com/live/AfvbWnGgBIEyeah im thinking Annie Sanders is the future of US Women's Climbing
>get into a rythmn, start climbing V4s consistently and sending some V5s>injure myself>take a break for a month or two>repeatHow do I escape this purgatory?
>>137941I'd try to not injure myself desu
How much does rubber stickiness vary? I switched from red chilis to scarpa origins and now I can't smear on any of my current projects anymoret. v0 god
>>137941>>137942Take it fucking easy in the gym, you can always tell who the wannabe faggots are cause they act hardcore and like they need to optimize and get pro.Meanwhile, the strongest climbers are the ones who take things chill, go at their own pace, and take a break when they're injured. Noone here is the next adam ondra or the big schwarma. Moreover, climb easy routes now and again, and do it purposefully. You'll still learn and improve, amd put less stress on your body
Hey I have a small cluster of what appears to be very small blisters on the top of my left foot right above the talus bone. I can't find any information online about this but has anyone else had something similar to this? I was thinking it was maybe my climbing shoes. They are super tiny like there are super tiny bubbles on the skin that cant be popped. I've been climbing for about ~2.5 years and noticed them.. probably 4 months ago?
>>137932Yes granite would let you climb harder since you can trust the rock. That being said it will eat up your hands. Every fall leaves scrapes everywhere. God I can't wait for Summer
well lads it finally happened, the acl fairy came :(
>>137945>How much does rubber stickiness vary?A lot If you ask me, Scarpa Veloce (M72 rubber or something like that) stick on every surface like glue while e.g. Instinct VS and Quantic (XS Edge rubber) hold on the smallest edge but smearing is unreliable on them (that's my experience though, afaik it also varies a lot with weight and skill)
>>138079>afaik it also varies a lot with weight and skilllearn to smear in gym rental shoes if you can smear in those nasty grey fucks, you can smear in anything
When I started bouldering I felt no fear regarding falling. However nowadays when I start a harder route or there's a step I'm unsure of I feel this feeling which is kind of a mixture of fear and excitement. Is it normal? Why didn't I feel it in the beginning?
>>138088>Is it normal?Yes. It's the fear of failing.>Why didn't I feel it in the beginning?Because when you started, you expected to fuck up. As you got better, you also felt the excitement of success. You also probably felt the pain of whiffing and slamming against the wall or floor face first, and understandably, your body doesn't like that. Simply put, you want to succeed because it feels exciting, and you fear not succeeding because it hurts and feels bad. Fear is normal, and you confront it on the climbing wall by doing that stupid thing you fear. Make that move you never thought you'd make. Try on the 7th day the route you failed 6 days before. Climb so hard you fail on that v1 you nailed the first day in the gym. Ignore faggots in the "i'm just like alex honnold bro I don't feel fear bro I'll be climbing 5.14s in a month bro" phase. Fear is a damn good motivator. Think of how when kids get stuck on the climbing wall, they can hold on for way fucking longer than anyone expects, or when you try a dyno, imagine you're a video game character leaping over a pit of spikes.tl;dr fear is normal, we all go through it
>>138093This reminds me of my first smear only boulder, sent it and the exact moment i thought "ok, now let's climb down" I fell 16ft face first on the matI had a laugh soon after and remember this fondly
>>138093Thanks for the help, anon!I really appreciate it.Next time I'm gonna leap of faith that fucking route.
>>137940she'll do awful in international comps, calling it nowprobably will do ok in lead, but boulder... btfo
Went to reel rock premiere and got to talk to Seb Bouin, Jacopo Larcher, and Babsi Zangerl for a little it was awesome
>>137940Jesus there's some 5ft tall people with +5 ape index. How can you compete with min maxed monkey genes
>>138209 nah she seems /strongmind/
Does anyone else get pain/tenderness between the PIP & DIP joints on the front of their fingers, especially when you started? I've been bouldering for about a month now, 3-4 days/week/, 2-3 hrs per session & only recently I've begun to have pain there from climbing. It feels like it might be a bit tender & swollen as well. Is this normal when starting to do routes that actually require some tight crimping? I'm worried it might be an early sign of a pulley injury or something.
>>138311bro you are climbing too much your body isn't used to it yet cut it back a bit.
Went to the gym today and it was pretty empty, my fingers are on the mend so I gotta warm up on the gym side for a bit before actually climbing. The gym area is small and there was this weirdo doing some kind of circuit but he kept just taking up as much space as possible and ondra yelling after every dip, pullup, or whatever. I'm just trying to warm up and stretch and this guy with main character syndrome is harshing my vibe. TL;DR: Don't be a gym hog
>>138311Take a week off, you'll be shocked how much easier climbing feels and how much harder you can climb when you've properly rested
>>138320>harshing my vibebro...
>think I'm fairly decent at my local gym>climb in the top 1/4 of attendants>they finally get a moon board 45 deg>topping out at V2 on thatturns out the Gumby was inside me all along
>>138318>>138321I mean I'm not climbing for 2 or 3 hours straight when I'm there obviously, full rests between attempts, and there's usually a half hour-45 minute chat sesh with other regulars somewhere between the first & second half hahah, but maybe yall are right. Really don't wanna cut back much though since this & riding a peloton are the only sports I'm into at the moment and I fucking hate riding the peloton.
>>138356>tfw normies are going to gyms and striking up conversations with random people for 30 minutes at a time while being absolute beginners while antisocial autists like me are avoiding eye contact with everyone while barely climbing V5I wish I wasn't such a social reject despite appearing chadlike on the surface
>>138391Same I even try to talk with people, but I just suck at keeping a conversation going.
>>138356>I mean I'm not climbing for 2 or 3 hours straight when I'm there obviously, full rests between attempts, and there's usually a half hour-45 minute chat seshNo one else is one the wall for 2-3 hours straight. That's actually max time for a lot of climbing sessions>Really don't wanna cut back much though since this & riding a peloton are the only sports I'm into at the momentThen cruise on easier routes and socialize more. You give up a week so you don't have to give up climbing for 3 months
>>138391Do you go at the same time every week? Once I had a regular schedule I got adopted by a group of boomers who are now my cloom buddies
>>138331wait moonboards go as low as V2?
>>138446Moon boards, tension boards, kilter boards, etc, have the entire spectrum of route difficulties, but the way they're built makes them a smidge harder. +1 on the v-scale if you want to be conservative, +3 on scale if you want to delude yourself into thinking you're a pro
>>138446In the app I can't go below 6A+ (something between V3/4?)But maybe the 25° version goes down to V2, it's a lot easier I guess but only ever climbed on 40° ones so dunno
>>137652That just sounds like gym "climbers."
>>137652>>I was climbing v6s in 3 months gaisDamn I wish... I'm about one and a half years in and climb around V5I want to crack 7A this year but I'm 99% certain that won't happen
how to overcome feeling like a worthless loser when people flash your project? to make matters worse it's on v3s/v4s and I was crushing them just a month ago before the gym put up new routes
>>138550its gym climbing anyway who cares
>>138550>how to overcome feeling like a worthless loser when people flash your project?The V5 Bully - There is this guy who would always show up in gi pants and it felt like he would just follow me around, wait until I tried something, and then flash it. I fuckin hated that guy even though he never said a word to me. I made it a goal to be stronger than that fuck. Some time passed, I got stronger, and ol fuckface is in the gym. I see him flailing on a problem I've sent already. I glide up that thing like Fred Astaire and downclimb it too, then continue on with my session. If we happened to be in the same section that day I'd wait for him to go first, fall, then I'd come and flash it...I still see him at the gym, but he doesn't climb around me anymore.TL;DR: create a nemesis and crush them
>>138550>tfw this guy proceeded to flash every V7/8 I was working on in front of me
>>138567I wear banana republic tech shorts and do this on V4 problems on the steep overhang walls but only because those problems are the most fun and I wish the gym set more like those
>>138550>>138575just get good, there is always a guy flashing "ur" grade or higher, sometimes routes are harder or feel harder at that day but try to always improve on strength or technique and keep enjoying the climbing itself while competition can motivate dont make it your main incentive
>tfw there are two small ledges in my office bathroom so I can hangboard while I waste company hours
After climbing only in the gym for a few months I finally went /out/ for the first time. Did the upper end of 5.10s on lead without trouble but once I tried doing a 5.11 slab, it felt impossible. I got only 2 quickdraws in. This difficulty jump is insane. Figured I need to do a lot of practice on my footwork. Do you guys have any footwork technique specific trainings?
>>138088Don't worry so much, I mean how badly can it go https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cm2F3gDsKGS/
HelloWhat are some good stretches I can do before bouldering? I feel like it's important but I don't really know what I'm doing I am old and super inflexible and also not good at bouldering (V2/V3 nub)Also are there any good youtube channels or anything that might help me progress?Thankyou
>>138607>he doesn't hangboard on door framesNGMI
>>138693I used to do this and then the paint above my doorframe started cracking and it spooked me
>>138608During your first 2-4 war up climbs during the day, practice placing feet as accurately as possible, only placing them once. Anticipate how will you need to stand on the foothold after the move.Commit to every foot move and you will learn to trust your feet. Some times just wishing that the foothold holds will make it better. N8kha w
>>138550You steal their beta, understand it and apply it elsewhere. Get better anon, and then crush their projects back.
I fucked up anons, I can no longer raise my right arm above shoulder height. I'm sure it will go away in a week or two
for me it's W011
>>138842>not even knowing their namengmiyou have to go deeper into the jpclimbfu labyrinth
>>137967Maybe its some kind of skin infection. Clean your dam shoes and try some antibiotic ointment
>>137967wear socks you animal its a friction rash
>bought a secondhand grigri online>the part that slides to let the rope in rattles a little bitam i going to die
>>138947>am i going to dieObviously
Are finger exercises with rubber bands worth doing for any reason? I don't get. Is there any gain in training antagonistic finger muscles??
>>139017In theory it helps to prevent finger injuries.
Do you bros also lift or nah?I've read conflicting information about lifting and climbing
>>139044I lift up the homies when they get sad about not sending.
>>139044lifting helps. If not working directly related muscle groups, having muscles helps prevents injury
>>139044Why wouldn't you lift? I'd rather be fit all around than super specialized. I have no aspirations to climb competitively.
>>139086stop projecting and start projecting
>>139044I don't currently, but I wanna figure out a way to work it into my routine. I'm climbing 3-4 days a week rn and I really like it, but need to have a day in between if I want it to be a productive climbing session. Not sure how much throwing in a lift day on a non-climb day would impact my recovery.
>>138609love that video, its gives me ptsd from when i fell & my elbo came out of socket in a climibn gym
>>139017Stand in front of your bed, or a table that can support your weight, maybe your desk. Put the backs of your hands on the surface, so that your fingers are pointing in at each other (this might feel tense if you've been doing a lot of finger strength training.) Gently put some weight on your hands, and then rock up so that your weight is shifted off of the backs of your palms and onto your fingers. If you feel comfortable, you can shift the weight up onto the backs of your fingers only up to the second knuckle. Play with how much weight you put into your hands and repeat until it starts to hurt. This doesn't directly help you climb harder, but it makes it much less painful to climb hard.
>>139044I do weighted pull ups, weighted campus board, weighted hangboard and some meme lifts that armwrestlers do.
>>138609I'm the guy who posted this vid in the last general and go to the same gym; I've had conversations with so many people there who saw it too and complained about the routesetting.
>>139044I do barbell OHP 2x a week before climbing
>>139100post pics because this just seems like a dumb way to hurt your wrists.
Futaba Ito should auction her shoes for charity
>>139122here. Should mention that they say to rock up onto a fist when you go up on your fingers. This one puts more weight on your hands than a raised surface, though.
>>139088No projecting of any kind here.I am a climber; you lot are not.The deleted post made it clear.
>>139017There is a plethora of material out there to answer this question. You simply do not care.>>139100>>139135>>139136And this is not the way to do it. See a physical therapist, ask a certified professional. The non-climbers on this website will not help you.
>>139145>>139146Gotta give credit where credit is due, that's a very convincing baitI can see this is not your first rodeo, I'm sure you'll get many (you)s
>>139147I dunno, mountain sports draw some of the worst people, and the gyms have stopped trying to filter them. He could actually just have gotten run off of mountain project.
Are there any series/things I can watch/read to get good at climbing? I've been watching all the bouldering tips videos on youtube like neil grisham, movement for climbers, lattice, etc. but I feel like when I actually climb I don't know what I'm doing. Especially with knowing how to move my hands/feet. I think I can do v3's but thats just relying on pulling strength. If there's any semblance of technique/coordination required I'm fucked
>>139185Look.Just climb.Your body doesn't know what it's doing at first, but the more you move, the more you figure things out, and your own particular flow/style. Climb all sorts of routes, watch other people climb the same shit, emulate their moves. Watching schwarma-man climb a 5.14 is useless when he can just haul himself up with a single-handed pinch. Climbing is really self-driven in that way, and we've all been there. If there's some faggot whose making fun of you for not knowing a specific move, tell them to fuck off.tl;dr get better at climbing by moving and experimenting on the wall, videos aren't all that helpful imo
>>139185>>139191>watch other people climb the same shit, emulate their movesThis. Copy people who do it easily. They probably make it look easy because their technique is good, so copy them, especially the women who can't rely on brute strength. Get a tight pair of yoga pants and show off dat ass.
my elbows hurt so fucking much :<
>>139248Do more antagonist training. Pushups, dips, bench press. It seriously gives instant relief
>>139248no antagonist training for you, it makes pain 10x worse on the long run
>>139248Theraband flexbar. First week of climbing I destroyed all my elbow tendons. I’d been lifting weights for a couple years, and just finished a cut, so I was primed to push well past my tendons limits. Then I came home one day that week and did an arms day, and my tendons were just done, couldn’t pick up a glass of water without pain. The flex bar, antagonist training for the grip, and dumbbell curls with looong eccentrics had me fixed up in 6 weeks without significantly limiting my time on the rock. That and avoiding long sessions on overhanging stuff. Don’t give up and rest, that’s almost as bad as continuing to climb past your tendons recovery limits.
>>139295What are you even saying?
>>139147Moot point, moot opinion. Summarily dismissed.>>139148Correct on the first account, wrong on the second.>>139297You will not be spoon-fed understanding. Enlighten yourself.>>139298Engagement with discussion will elucidate the topic at hand, and your posts serve to handicap such effort. Again, this exchange on the whole supports the original sentiment found>>139086here, which is to say that the sport of climbing is being undercut and diminished by the nonsensical contributions of its next generation.
>>139323You sound pretty gay ngl
>>137580Everything's still icy where I'm at, still fun to climb though.
>>137652I still won't forgive mook for letting the hordes of WWE wrestling retards into /asp/. That board was genuinely good, even if there was trolling and toxicity like in the rest of 4chan.
>>139359Why are you still replying to that dude?
>>139044>Do you bros also lift or nah?Not really, was bouldering with a friend who's been lifting for 10 years now and holy fuck he sucked at climbing. I have no idea how but he struggled even at some 5A'sSo I see even less of a reason to start lifting
>>139368climbing is a different skillset than lifting retard
>>139457Obviously but /fit/tards always claim they'd crush climbers in climbing. Looks like they can't even crush beginners or children
>>139466>childrenthere are 9 year olds sending v11+. Please reevaluate your argument
>>139466>Obviously but /fit/tards always claim they'd crush climbers in climbingwho has claimbed this? there are 10,000 "BODYBUILDER VS CLIMBERS IN THE CLIMBING GYM" videos on youtube. someone who only climbs, and has done so for a while is obviously going to outclimb a gym rat who has never climbed before. Someone who lifts AND climbs is going to outclimb someone who has climbing as their only form of exercise 9 times out of 10
>>137967>>138937Update: This fellow is probably right. I stopped climbing for 2 weeks and put vaseline on it occasionally and it is slowly going away. I don't wanna wear socks in my climbing shoes though
>>139499>Someone who lifts AND climbs is going to outclimb someone who has climbing as their only form of exercise 9 times out of 10Additional mass outside of the climbing specific muscles will always make u worse then the lighter climber, climbing specific strength exercise =/= lifting, also u can only have a set amount of recovery to add lifting you would have to climb less making you worse by default
>>139499>Someone who lifts AND climbs is going to outclimb someone who has climbing as their only form of exercise 9 times out of 10doubt.jpg
>>139510moleskin or bandages over the hotspots when climbing can work, too.
>>139499>Someone who lifts AND climbs is going to outclimb someone who has climbing as their only form of exercise 9 times out of 10
>>139577this little japanese girl is the chosen one and single-handedly destroys all of climbing
>>137624>Asian woman hyped for BWCAs it should be
>>138609Holy shit, I’m brand new to climbing and this makes me want to be extra cautious. Thanks anon
>climbing for 5 months>1st climbing shoes already got a hole in them>picrelWhat do? Can I fix this myself? Do I have to buy new ones already? I thought they'd last me at least a year.