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Roller blading and roller skating general
>Don't do crack, just roller skate edition
https://youtu.be/t0LSkX46dS4
Discuss tricks, gear, hobbies, and anything else relating to rolling. Derby and hockey fans are welcome to join as well.
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What are the main disciplines of skating besides aggressive and slalom? I’m not interested in either of those. Also I just mastered the power slide what should I work on next?
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>>128837
As far as disciplines go, there's urban, downhill, and Wizard skating. I would practice magic slide or parallel slide next. Although it might not be a bad idea to go ahead and learn switch power slide next and get comfortable doing it both ways.
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35 year old boomer here. I went roller skating for a birthday parter with a friend and really enjoyed it. Anyone have any good beginner blades around 100 bucks? I’ll probably mostly be skating around my neighborhood.
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>>130115
Oxelo MF skates are probably the best at your price point
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>>127374
What are some martial arts I can use when rollerblading and I need a quick getaway?
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>>130122
watch Monster Rancher and copy Genki's moves
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>>130122
Learn nunchaku whilst rollerblading
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>want to get into skating
>turns out it's disallowed to ride on the road
>while my town has narrow sidewalks in most places
>cannot even go fast
GAY.
It's freshly included law on top of that, so coppers might be zealous about enforcing it.
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>>131036
that is extremely fr*cking gay but I encourage you to not give up and get into the hobby. Surely there are skate rinks or skate parks nearby that you can go to?
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>>131230
There is tiny one in my town, but I suppose mostly kids use, not to mention there is just a rough patch leading to it, so I won't be able to comfortably ride there, I think.
The new law was caused by idiots and kids getting into e-scooters and causing accidents, so maybe cops won't look much at me skating around. For now I might stick to the weekends and evenings when there is smaller traffic.
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Ok, I followed anon's advice he was giving to other anon and I got myself Oxelo MF500 skates.
Thing is, do these skates break-in, size-wise? They feel quite tight right now.
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>>131439
PS. I might have picked a half or one European size too small. I want to try breaking them in in two next days and then consider trying to change them.
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>>131440
not him but i think if you're getting hardshell boots it's best to get them a size or two bigger than what your regular shoe size is,dont know how big your feet are though
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>>131441
>dont know how big your feet are though
I thought I have 44 because I usually took more loose-feeling shoes, but apparently my true size might be 45.
What a bother.
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>>131442
i think inline warehouse has a lot bigger size hardshell boot skates,dont know what your price range is though
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>>131443
I want to focus on Oxelo MF500 because this is what I bought. I'm just hoping I will be able to exchange for a bit larger.
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>>131444
I think I will be able to just send back the inlines I got and order a size larger. Probably could find a better method, but fuck it.
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Are (new) wheels supposed to have that "sticky" feel to them? It seems to greatly make things like T-Stop more difficult to pull off because they pretty much grab onto the floor.
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>>128964
You will break a leg all my friends did walk around on carpet or on dirt fore 2 weeks first to build up your ankil strength before scating on pavement it's always the new skaters how bust thair ass the first month and go to the emergency room.
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>>128837
I'd recommend on the side to practice jumps, just small hops, with protection of course. And skating backwards. I've been skating really seriously (about three hours five days a week) for like five years now and it sucks to be super balanced and flexible and able to do a lot of advanced tricks and have a really nice flow but be super weak at the basics.
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>>131439
I just learned that wheels on those are pretty damn soft.
Well, fuck. I hope changing the wheels won't be expensive.
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>>131439
They do break in. The ideal size should feel pretty tight around your feet initially

>>131441
This is terrible advice. If you want your skates to be less responsive and have your feet be fucking moving around inside your skates and get chafed to hell, by all means get a size bigger than your normal shoe size.

>>131586
Check the hardness when you buy wheels, you might've just bought wheels with a low hardness grade, which means more grip.
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>>127374
I want an older styal of skates >>127374
I watched a black and white video of what looked like ice scates with two big 12 inch wheels one on the front and one on the back I was most impressed thay traveled over gravel and dirt I'm thinking I could improve the design. I loved to rollerblade back in the day but the local roads are cracked I need a smoother ride any idea ware I can buy a set with the huge wheels.
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>>132681
You don't want an older style of skates. There's a reason they got replaced by inline. You want a big wheeled inline skate. Places to buy them depends on where you live, and I'm guessing it ain't an English speaking country.
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>>127374
Bros I'm probably going to buy some blades for this summer. Do I need to worry about the boots having good ankle stability? I can ice skate pretty well (forward crossovers, transitioning between forwards/backwards, hockey stops) so my ankles aren't total shit. I know you can buy hockey roller skates but I kinda wanna style too :^)
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>>133124
Skates with good ankle support are still recommended if you wanna style during rides. The added degree of control and manoeuvrability will do you good. Look into freeride/freestyle skates, they're probably exactly what you're looking for.
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>>132658
I went by default size I usually go for should be fine, it worst case I will just get thicker socks.
Wheels came with the rollerblades, but maybe I will manage. There is no weather to try them out much, tho.
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>>131744
What do flow and basics mean to you? I don’t understand how you can have good balance, good flow, ability to do advanced tricks, all while being super weak at basics. What basics?
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>>134018
If they're genuinely too big thick socks won't save you. I'd suggest trying an indoor rink or something if that's an option for you, you wanna give them a test run without voiding your right to return. If your heels are lifting noticeably no matter how tight you put on your skates, send them back immediately. And yeah, fall and winter used to be my favorite seasons but ever since I picked up inline skating I fucking hate them because I can barely go out to skate. Thank god we've had a spell of dry and sunny weather recently because I was genuinely going fucking bonkers.
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>>128964
How do you like those endless frames? I'm thinking of getting some of their 110/125s to fix the retarded frame placement of my RB 110 3WDs (in size US 14, rear axle is like under the middle of my heel).

Having trouble deciding between that or the NN Sumo. 3x125 would be fun though, would have gotten that setup in the first place if I didn't need the wide ass RB boot.
Any issues with durability with the axles going in those little tabs instead of being solid like the NN or Wizard frames?
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>>131036
Go at night and dgaf
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How do you like to skate? Anyone like skate dancing?
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>>136490
I usually just try to go fast and for a long distance, but that may just be because I'm not really good at all the other stuff lol.
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>>136549
Sounds fun. I just saw this amazing dance performance and got inspired. https://youtu.be/IVbFdj5Rczc
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I’ve only ever skated on rockered 4x80s but seriously want to try 3x100s or 3x110s. How do they compare? And can anyone recommend any quality skates that won’t bankrupt me? I do urban freestyle
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>>136651
FR1 is pretty solid apparently.
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>>136349
Endless are amazing, I have both the 84 and the ARC frames, and ridden the 100 as well. Endless frames are all amazing, and designed and machined by someone that both knows what he's doing and how the frame needs to perform. I don't use the triskate config, but the "4xwhatever frame you get" setup with the natural rocker is perfect for both Wizard skating and urban skating. For your foot size, the 110 would be good for wizard skating, but if you want them for fitness/urban, I would get the 100 RB instead. Wheelbase performs better for handling, and the 100 can usually fit 125 triskate setup, especially if you make a small wheel well in your boot for the front and rear wheels. NN frames are too tall, period, they didn't get the wheel clearance tight enough on UFS or 165 versions of any of their frames. The design is great for that, if you don't mind your ride height being a half inch taller than it should be, go for NN.
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>>136651
Any of the FR boots (FR1, FR2, FR3, FRX, UFR if you get UFS frames)
RB Twister if you have narrow feet
RB Cruiser if you have wide feet
Flying Eagle or Micro MT Plus if you have less than $200 to spend. Would also recommend getting thin liners (Intuition, MyFit 2nd skin) to downsize, almost all urban skates are dual-size shells and fit a size big.
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Ordered some FR1s to try skating, should arrive when (hopefully) the snow has melted.
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Well I got the FR1s, rollled around a bit on my floor. It felt very natural, and... they look slick as hell(red). Looking forward to getting out there when streets have been swept free of gravel.
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You fags need a proper sticky intro with equipment recommendations and basic newbie help.

I'm trying to find a decent budget pair of inline skates for bombing around the back roads on. Bit concerned about quality as there's a lot of hills here and I don't want the wheels to come off going down a hill.
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>>138231
That would be cool. I'm also a newbie, but from the research I've done, FR Skates has a good rep. Not very cheap though, but not expensive either.
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Skated around a bit more, learned how to brake. This is so fun and easy!
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>>138234
While FR is the most expensive out of all the plastic shell freeskates, you're getting the best stock gear combined with durability. The buckles don't break, frames don't warp, the shell won't crack on you or get too floppy over time. If you get the models with Intuition liners, you have the most comfortable fit, and liners that will last for 3-5 years. The Street Invader wheels that the FR1 come with will last as long as Undercover/Hydrogen, even if they aren't as fast, and are unlikely to decore or chunk on you. The only thing I would change is giving the skate waxed hockey-style laces, the FR laces suck. But you have a solid urban skate that you can beat the shit out of for several years without having to worry about replacing anything but the wheels and laces.
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>>138374
Waxed laces would be great. This is probably on me, but I already tore one lace a little bit... oops.
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Went skating at an inside area today. I learned how to "glide" forwards by twisting my hips, sort of like carving on skiis, and how to skate backwards!
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>>127374
DMOR, still got a few questions trying to get into this
>1. What should be the rough price point of your first pair (since all the self-help sites are thinly-veiled marketing ploys)
>2. Are back-brakes underrated or is it just me? They don't seem to be comparable to bike stabilisers, as much as they are a way to hardstop with, for turning. Also is it common for only one to have a backbrake, seems counter-intuitive.
>3. Roughly what wheel hardness rating would you want for a 'general'-ly long-term pair? Local park I'm thinking of practicing on has a few terrains, from packed-dirt, to old + beaten concrete, to smooth concrete; so I don't want to be getting soft wheels for roads, only for them to be shit in the 'general' setting I'm going for.
Any general newfag recommendations / tips / resources aside from that? Surprised there isn't a tl;dr rentry doc or something like it.
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>>139260
>1.
$200-400 should be your aim. You're going to want a hard-shell (full plastic) boot with a supportive cuff and good forward flex. 4x80 setup is ideal 4x90 if you have a size 11 or bigger foot.
>2.
Don't bother with a heel brake, once you're proficient enough at rolling around, you'll be doing t-stops and plow stops anyway. Heel brakes are mostly designed for kids that might be to young to have a stable center of gravity and leg strength to stop any other way. Heel brakes also teach a lot of bad habits that you'll have to unlearn as you progress. Just skip them entirely.
>3.
Wheel hardness is governed more by your preference and your body weight. You don't need to worry about it that much for now, but 84-86a is the all around ideal hardness, as you get better at skating, you may find that you like a harder wheel better. I will say that if you're a heavier guy (200+) you do want wheels in the 85 and up range, and you need to rotate your wheels every session. Clear wheels are an absolute no-no unless you're skating at an indoor rink.
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>>139339
Thanks a lot bro; I've been thinking of using RS'ing as a way to work on my legs and cardio (home dumbbells only go so far) while giving my dog a bit more to run around with when I take it out, so this sounds great.
>heel brakes are a meme
For going up stairs too? Sorry if I'm sounding stubborn, I'm just thinking it through, and it's just the way my area is like (natural valley that's been built over with a nearby park, so there's as many slaloms as there are stairways, even if I'm going to be sticking to the flat areas at first).
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>>139340
>For going up stairs too?
Yeah, that's one of the bad habits I was getting at, being reliant on the brake too much. Get comfortable walking sideways on skates, start in the grass, then on pavement, then small stairs with a handrail. It sounds unintuitive, but it'll come with practice, just like the rest of the sport. I've gotten to the point where I just run up stairs with skates on, if that instills any confidence in you.
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>>136335
I wasn't looking in for a quite while. At last had a first training session on the parking lot. Seems pretty okay albeit catheads do worry me.
I will need to order some safety equipment, tho. My area is pretty hilly and there is no bailing on inlines. I will ahve to look up knee sliding techniques or whatever you do if you go too fast, so far I couldn't even begin to comprehend V-braking and I hoped it would give me some chance to handle hills.

>>136474
That's what I'm planning to do. Going out at Saturday/Sunday night sounds comfy.
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Are hard boots like the FR1 or Twister XT detrimental to distance skating? (I’m talking 10-20 miles +)
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>>139687
They're not detrimental by any means, but they might not be as optimal. Typically a lighter and lower-cut skate would be ideal for that, with a long-wheelbase 3x110 or 3x125 frame to round it out. That being said, if you aren't looking to set a speed record then a setup like the one in your picture will do just fine. Just make sure your insoles are in good shape and that your laces and straps are done up how you like them beforehand.
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wish me luck i'm heat molding my twister XTs... shits hurt my left arch so bad
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Second practice session(~1.5h) done.
Been trying to learn to brake, but so far T-stopping either turns me to the side or does jack shit. Powerstop is just a harder turn in my case, but somewhat works if I got room to do it.
Only reliable method is using the brake thingy I got on my skate, but it doesn't work that fast, either.
Fell on my ass trying to turn on pavement while riding down. Got spooked because it's tall compared to road(so falling off it would throw me off-balance) and I couldn't see that road well due to building, so it was risky. I will need to go to different spot. And get some fucking safety gear.
Practice time in total; about 4 hours.
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>>140269
T-stopping turns you because you are putting your weight on the dragging foot.
To t-stop correctly, all the weight goes on the front foot that is facing forward, and you only apply pressure on the rear foot gently, while shifting your balance to retain the weight on the front foot.
A good exercise to train for this is doing pistol squats, it can be hard at first to not turn when doing the t-stop, as your natural urge will be to put your weight on the dragging foot to stop, but because you're also probably not putting your rear foot right in line with the front one, and not perfectly perpendicular, it will cause rotation.
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What's the general rule for finding good quality pavement and parking lots to skate on without getting into legal trouble?
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>>140753
No one will give a shit as long as they're closed for the day. Worst thing that will happen is that security or the police will tell you to leave.
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>Parking lot looks good on Google street view
>Rocks, cracks, and dried grass dirt by the time you get there

Every time
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how to skate give me videos
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My frens are playing hockey and I'd like to join them, but I cannot skate. I thought I'd grab a pair of roller blades and get into it during off season. But I wonder, do the skills from roller blades really transfer to ice skating?
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How the hell are you actually handling going downhill? None of the braking method seem reliable when you're going down a serious hill and my place is hilly as hell.
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>>141206
When going downhill, control your speed by doing a slalom like movement. At moderate to high speeds, use a magic slide to stop or speed check.
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>>141030
crahs into walls until you dotn any more (simple 100% testedd and werking methed)

>>141172
Similar, but ultimately different.
With rollers, you're gliding on top of a surface, with skates you dig slightly into the ice with a much thinner axis. Rollers allow you more freedom of movement, which allows you to do more complex footwork and overall fine-turning, while I've always found skates have much extreme turning, higher acceleration and sharper stopping just from the sheer difference in friction, which means you have to control your mass and motion far more (compared to rollers, which seem to demand more from the 'footwork', if you get what I'm getting at). That, and rollers naturally... 'roll' around depending on terrain / inclines, compared to skates which more reliably stay put on a flat rink you dig into a bit. The aforementioned difference is probably why ice skates are the sports-ended ones (with dancing as a spinoff), while roller-hockey would just be impractical.
I guess a 'close' comparison would be American Football and Rugby - there's overlap, but they're ultimately different beasts. If you want somewhat of a 'bridge', use extremely (like, maximum you can possibly find) hard wheels, and you might get *close* to what steel ice blades feel like - but the catch 22 there is that if you're trying to learn, it's just going to be harder with harder wheels, and not as good as just using skates.

tl;dr I'd just wait it out and use ice skates in-season.
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>>142064
Thanks!

I've already got some inline skates tho because I really wanted to give it a try. It's fun to just cruise around. There's an inline hockey rink nearby, and we thought we might play that in the summer season, but we'll see. There's also a skatepark near my office, so maybe I'll give that a try, too.

Anyway, summer looks promising so far.
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>>141212
>slalom like movement
Sounds pretty scary. I did try doing that when skiing and fucked up almost every time. Maybe I tried to turn too hard, but otherwise I still went pretty damn fast.

On other topic: What would be the good way to carry the skates? I don't want to drive a car because it's an "anchor" that would force me to come back there.
Using a shopping bag could work, but seems kinda lame.
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>>143430
Get a big carabiner and hook it to the loops at the heel of the boot, every skate has that on the shell or liner.

Also, the trick to control speed when going downwhill when you don't know how to stop on a dime is to just not let yourself go too fast. Rule of thumb is that by the time you feel like you're going to fast, it will already be too late for you, so just always drag a bit when going downhill until you've learned to slalom, soul slide or parallel slide.

When going downhill I almost exclusively use soul slides to control my speed.
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Should I get grind or non-grind blades?
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>>143912
theres a few boots you can buy to try both, but most will be a bit pricey
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>>143545
>loops at the heel of the boot
You mean those cloth loops that I have at the upper back of the skates? I thought they're more of decorative thing because they do not look sturdy enough.
Oxelo MF500 if you want to check.
Also, thanks!
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Just bought some cheap RB Cruisers am EXCITED as fuck just to be on wheels again, its been like 10 years..
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>>144213
I think they are sized correctly by my big toe has a ton of pressure on the side and I have fucked up toe nails from being a kid so it is hurting, RIP I feel like going up a size is going to ruin a good fit , but i'll give em a try tomorrow
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Half this thread is just people asking for fitting advice and expressing regret at buying the wrong size. Really highlights one of the worst aspects of this sport. Good fucking luck finding a comfortably fitting skate without access to a physical store. I'm four pairs of skates in and still looking.
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>>144374
You could try some Intuition or Second Skin liners, the thinner liner will give you more room in the shell, and will be more comfortable too.
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>>145053
I bought a size up and it feels like it is sized more appropriately for my foot, in terms of length, but i apparently have wide fucking feet (4.5in lol) so i am thinking about trying intuition liners as ya like you said it helps with wider feet. The liners in the up sized skates I bought feel like shit even when I take them out of the shell all because of my width
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>>127374
>>>/lgbt/
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If my skates haves started feeling more roomy after using them more, would double socking be a good way for my feet to feel snug again? Also does such a thing as an ideal sock for skating exist?
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>>127374
Can this thread be aggressive?
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>snowboarding
>just skateboarding on snow and your feet are attached to the board
>no one gives a shit
>skiing
>basically the equivalent of rollerblading on snow and your feet are attached
>no one gives a shit
>rollerblading
>LMAO LOOK AT THIS GAY SHIT LOLOLOL YOUR FEET ARE EVEN ATTACHED EASIEST SPORT EVER, ZERO TRICKS LMAOOOO
How? Decades of conditioning by big brands?
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>>146293
Blading is based, they slam the hardest cause you can't jump off if you fall.
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>>146304
Blading has one of the best sports movies of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz2CMDCD3WQ
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>>146293
anon its 2023. snorting coke and homosex isn't taboo anymore.
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>>127374
>mfw i bought a shitty pair of blades just so i could fuck all the thots that come to the rollouts in my city
I am a genius (other than the child support shit)
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>>146383
No, you're just a genius.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HeGn72yOf8
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I wanna go skating again soon (probably this weekend or earlier if I can) but all I have are these huge inlines from years ago. I never got into quads but I feel like they would be better suited for me since they're more stylish and better for indoor/artistic skating. Ideally would like to get something like pic related, I've heard it's slower but don't really care about speed too much since it's mostly for indoor skating anyway
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WTF never expected rollerblading to end up in the extreme sports board. Checked in regular sports. /s/, but it's for couch-kind of sport, /out/ was empty too.
Anyway, the slowness of this thread reminds me once more that there are few skaters out there... Each time I skate in the city I might come across one, but usually none. Do you see many skates in your city?
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>>146456
Yes its making a comeback in my city but usually the only time you see them on the streets is when the femoids are doing their rollout events.
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>>146456
I see more rollerskiers than skaters but skaters are not a novelty either.
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>>146456
It's still alive in the midwest. That said, the number of skaters in very small. You can easily become friends with someone who was/is a pro/sponsored.
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>>146247
Fuck you retard
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>>146456
I see people skating every once in a while. Although its not super common, I have seen a good amount of people take their skates to swapmeets, which seems like an unideal skating place because of all the people there, but people do it anyways
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tfw cannot figure out an arch pain problem in my left foot. Its the only thing stopping me from being able to skate more than 15 minutes without needing to stop
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>>146456
It's mostly kids I think anon, I did it when I was younger but between the pandemic and being overloaded with work lately I'm just looking for something fun to do. Amusement park is too far and probably crowded so I figured going skating again might be fun. And yeah not a lot of people do it anymore from what I can tell, I say this because the last time I went with a group of kids from my church and nobody knew what they were doing lol.

This isn't my usual board either, mostly stick to /vr/ but I figure maybe going skating can bring back some of that childhood nostalgia and make me feel a little better. Haven't been to this particular rink since the 2000's so I'm excited to go
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>>146517
I feel you anon, albeit my problem is not as severe. Did you try custom-made orthopedic insoles? They are cool for all kinds of sports involving legs. Almost doubled my km count. But do NOT skimp out on those, and I emphasize CUSTOM-made. They will last a few years under moderate use. Also level your strain on both legs, if you don't do it yet.
>>146458
I would not be as jaded towards women on skates (but totally would otherwise). It is not easy to learn to skate well, so when you see a good girl skater, you know she is not a poser and at least somewhat athletic.
>>146534
Well, I can't say much wrt kids, I saw maybe one on a street with parents. Kids are always on skating ring and I don't go there, not interesting as city.
Have fun!
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>>146542
I've never had foot issue before from sports I dont think, I am messing with the frame alignment to maybe shift where the center of gravity is on my feet and it might mildly be helpiong
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>>146334
I don't really see what that has to do with anything.
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>>146517
If you have a high arch, you may be setting the 45° strap too tight, or lacing too tightly, and the tightness is straining your arch too much. Try riding that skate a little more loose, getting waxed hockey laces may also help. If that doesn't help, get an insole like Superfeet that's designed for specific arch types and play around with different positions for the insole. For example, I use a Superfeet Green in the bottom of my skates' shell, underneath the liner.
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>>147056
I am still struggling with it, I have been putting it under the liner but i think im going to cut it and put it inside the liner and see how that goes.

I have literally zero of this pain in the my right foot using the same configuration, I know feet are different but jesus christ
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Will I get better if I keep on skating mindlessly?
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>>148794
Depends on your definition of getting better. Balance and confidence? Sure. Muscles and endurance? If you push yourself hard enough. Doing sick slides and freestyle? Probably not.
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>>139339
I keep debating on the twister se or the fr1's, is there a discernable difference between the two?
I want something comfy for cruising.
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If you're getting the stock FR1, then it's foot shape and mounting, the Twister is narrower than the FR1 is, and the FR1 has a 7-hole mounting plate to allow for really any kind of raised heel frame, while the Twister has singular mounting and has a heel bias on most aftermarket frames.
If you're getting the FR1 Deluxe with Intuition liners, that's the top of the line as far as plastic urban skates go, you're getting the best liners in the game with a lightweight 6000-series aluminum frame on top of the FR1's other benefits. They'll run around $500, but you won't need new parts other than wheels for a few years.
TLDR get Twister if you have narrow feet, FR1 for any other reason.
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>>149289
I've heard the fr's run small, I'm about to get the fr1 80s, I only have ever owned a pair of RB Zetrablades and I wear a pretty snug US 11 in those.
Should I get the US 12 in the FRs?



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