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/sdg/Skydive general No whuffos allowed. Current news:Looks like the son of VP of the USPA has broken some rules, as well as his ankles when he took bachelor contestant Rachel on a tandem skydive. Dumb fuck did a low turn on final and fuckin smashed his shit up. Surprisingly the USPA will probably let him keep his tandem rating even though he’s a 20yo retard who’s mom owns a DZ and is on the board for USPAnepotism for sure
Bump because there’s apparently no actual skydivers on 4chan lol
>>12777they all died on impact
I began in summer 2.5 years ago, but kinda lost motivation (even before covid) mainly because skydiving is a lot of waiting. Still, I'm pretty happy i tried it.
>>12922“Hurry up and wait”That’s how it goes bro. Get back into it
>>12265kek, holy fuck, there's actually a skydiving general what rig is everyone jumping and why am I wrong for getting a mirage?
I have 9 jumps and then I wrecked my shoulder. I don't think I'm allowed here lol
>>13051>>12922It's definitely more that in the beginning when you're slow as fuck at packing and have wind limits as a student. When you get into it more, you can crank out as many in a day as fast as you can pack.
>>12265Started skydiving in 2002 and moved on to base jumping in 2004. Made a couple hundred jumps, I will always love base jumping but skydiving was always such a case of blue balls. Too many rules, too much sitting around the dz, and way too much dz drama. It was pretty fun being in the air though.
>>16955Oh yeah, harness/container is an infinity. It's fine.
fucking based generalBut i am too poor to do skydiving, i had to stop after 10 jumps fuck
>mfw too poor to buy own pack>mfw have enough for rentals>mfw I know i should just stop for a few months to save for one>mfw I'm only holding myself backwhy am I poor >>15607 Mirage is solid. Theyre what I used throughout my A-levels.
>>17946Kek, just save up for a real rig
Best way to get into skydiving?
>>19048Find a dropzone: https://www.dropzone.com/dropzones/Do a tandem jumpDecide if you enjoy it enough to continue
>>19048Order gear from wishPay local pilot to drop youLearn by doing
Fuck yeah skydiving thread !! 220 jumps here but I'm on a break because of work,can't wait to get back in the sky
Pilot guy here. Don’t really wanna jump out of the plane. Seems like a pretty high risk doing it hundreds or even thousands of times.
>>12922Been working to A for 2.5 years. Fucking shit weather here.
>>22758Wouldn't you have to repeat jumps constantly? Most A-License courses are designed to be completed within a few months at most
>>22762Yeah I was wondering about that too. I'd have to repeat the last stage I did at the end of the prior season, after a separate dive they called an "air bath". Just making sure I covered dive flow fundamentals in those basically, and got a log entry without grading. I'd really like to continue but probably won't unless I move again. FL and VA had good weather and DZs, so I'm kicking myself in the ass for not starting while I lived there.
>>12265I'm hoping to get into skydiving this summer or the next. I've always wanted to do it scince childhood but never took the step to actually doing it. It's kinda expensive but it looks totally worth it. Going to do a tandem first, i think, my local club gives a discount to the cert course if you do a tandem with them first. Any tips for someone who wants to get into this sport?
>>22859Do the tandem, and also hang around and take it all in. Watch, talk to folks, and listen. You won't know exactly what's going on yet but you'll start getting a feel for things. Skydivers are generally cool and friendly. You'll probably meet some welcoming folks to ask some questions. If you want to get into then ask about their AFF program. https://uspa.org/skydiveschool/4
>>23350>>22859Oops almost forgot. You can talk to them about the discount and AFF before the tandem. If they know you're interested in AFF they'll set you up with a student log book, log the tandem, and the tandem instructor may do some coaching on the way down, let you pull the chute and do some maneuvers under canopy.
>>23350>>23351Thank you very much for the info, i appreciate it. I am not in the US, but i'm really looking forward to getting into skydiving courses. I'll do the tandem first though, that seems like a good place to start.
>>21942What do you fly? Do you wear a chute in case you need to bail?
Why make a collapsible pilot chute a feature of a rig for an extra 2mph of wind reduction, it seems retarded imo its not worth the risk of the idiot user forgetting to cock the PC?
>>12777AFF-I here
>>23502Captain goes down with his ship
>>23836>>23502Some planes when used in skydiving operations require the pilot to wear a bailout chuteSome planes recommend it, and it's always the pilots choice.
>>23841Maybe if everyone else on board had a parachute, I’d wear one too. Probably won’t dive drive though and will just become a cfi
why the fuck is it so expensive. I don't know about USA but in france it's 30-40e a jump when you hav a licence. Overall it's around 10k for 300 jumps if i recall my calculations
>>24474In the US it's around $25 per jump on average, though licensing costs around $2500 and gear costs anywhere from $3000-$8000
>>23505A collapsible pilot chute will normally improve acanopy’s glide, make it easier to land, and will often let the canopy turn more smoothly and handle turbulence better. Some people believe that collapsible pilot chutes are not necessary on larger canopies, but the fact is they can improve performance on any size canopy. Even a relatively large canopy may have a full glide speed of 30 mph or more. At this speed, an inflated pilot chute creates a substantial amount of drag, and has a significant effect on the canopy’s performance.
>>24600all of this is so fucking cool, i wish i was rich so i could get into this sport.
>>23886uh in skydiving operations other than taking someone right seat, everyone is wearing a parachute.The recommendation comes from the airplane manufacturer and is based on the likelyhood that skydiving operations could result in a catastrophic failure of the aircraft.Twin Otter? No one wears a bailout rig.Caravan and 206/402? Every pilot I know wears one.Pac? Half of pilots wear it.Being a skydiving pilot is awesome, the people are generally cool and you get paid by the load it's steady work.
>>24474It comes down to your gear being expensive. A fully stocked rig is about 3k-7k US. Another 200-600 for helmet, goggles, altimeter.The jump ticket reflects the price of fuel, the plane maint. and the pay for the pilot.It's anywhere from $400-900 an hour to fly a plane, excluding fuel and pilot, and thats 2-3 loads per hour.
>>23505Good question.For students, the PC isn't collapsable for that reason of safety.For sport rigs, it has an effect on canopy shape and performance, the the effect that on sub 120s, a lot of people have removable pilotchutes that they take off following the opening.
>>24928Call your local dropzone and ask if you can come work as a packer. It's the best paid job on the DZ, and many people get into the sport by doing this to fund their way.You can make 20-80 an hour packing.
>>25018>work as a packeryes lets let any ol' joe who walks in do this life-or-death precision job. Are you sure anon? I'd actually love that, if it isn't too difficult.
>>25037Yes. You are trained and supervised while working by an FAA certified rigger.Theres just three things to you need to do to eliminate 99% of all canopy malfunctions, and they are easy (Stow the brakes, cock the pilot cute, and prep the slider).If you tell then you are there to hustle and work, they will train you.You are paid per packjob, and a some DZs require you have your own LLC ($100-500 a year depending on the state, its just an online form).It's a physically demanding job, but it pays well. You get tips from funjumpers you pack from tooWhat state are you in, I can help direct you.
>>25082I'm not in the United States, I'm sorry to say. But that sounds very interesting, i would definatly be interested in that.
>>25098unsure how euros do it - wouldn't hurt to call the local dz and ask
>>25101Thanks for the help, anon, i appreciate it.
>>12265I'm gonna be doing my first slack line jump in a couple of weeks, anything I should know that the instructors haven't covered?
>>25492nope, listen to them
>>25013Do you need to be rated to skydive yourself to be a skydive pilot? I haven’t looked much into it
>>23836Based Sky King.
>>25509Oh no definitely I'm not a retard, just wondering if there's any tips you lads might have, or things you'd be happy to know before your first jump. Also in terms of attire, are sweatpants or jeans and a long sleeve shirt good to go? I was told only not to wear baggy shit.
>>25520No. You need to have your commercial rating.Bail out rigs are emergency use only and good luck.>>25640You are going to be wearing a jumpsuit over your clothes, so yeah dress comfy.Remember that every skydive carries about the same risk as driving for 45 miles on the highway, and have fun.
Whats yalls experience with recurrency? filthy a-license here had to go two months with no jumps because I was out to sea. Think I have to do FJC again or just a coach refresh?
>>15607nothing wrong with mirage brother
>>25640>You are going to be wearing a jumpsuit over your clothes, so yeah dress comfy.I will not be wearing a jumpsuit, they specifically told us to dress appropriately
>>12780> party till impact>>12265I know the other TM in that video, he has a DZ in Morgantown, WV. I wonder if the manufacturer is going to go after them for doing a little bit a crew as well. >>16142Stick around man, you made a couple of jumps so you're cool.>>21942I'm a pilot too, it's not as bad as you think. The gear is pretty bullet proof if you maintain it correctly and follow proper procedures just like everything else in aviation. >>24600I got to be honest but I don't buy this argument unless you're on a sub 110 ft fully elliptical canopy with thin lines. For everyone else the drag from the PC is negligible. It's just manufacturer marketing. >>26151I took a 4 year break at 220 jumps and just did a hop and pop at 3k out of a 182 to get recurrent. Helps that I was a pilot and never left the air. You won't have to do a FJC course again, probably just have to go up with an instructor.
>>26774>>>24600>I got to be honest but I don't buy this argument unless you're on a sub 110 ft fully elliptical canopy with thin lines. For everyone else the drag from the PC is negligible. It's just manufacturer marketing.not true, stop talking
>>26860Bullshit dude. You're telling me that someone on a NAV 260 needs a collapsible PC? Fuck outta here.
>>26156mah nig
>>26901Not that anon, poster from 24600 here. I think that it's a good idea for people, especially students on a NAV, to use a collapsible pilot chute. It's inevitable they're going to downsize (unless you're a landwhale), better to learn once and get it drilled into you how to cock a pilot chute; rather than have to relearn a critical skill down the line
>>26327Don't wear a hoodie, the hood flaps like crazy.Don't wear anything baggie like jackets, when you're falling the material may cover your emergency handles (on your chest).Don't wear sandals, they may fall off, but also don't wear high-top boots, in case you have a bad landing it may cause a sprain. Just wear regular shoes.Temperature at altitude can be up to -30F lower than on the ground, and during freefall there is windchill to keep in mind. Make sure to wear thin layers rather than a big thick article of clothing, just like skiing.Otherwise, have fun!
>>15607JAV
>>27073So jeans/sweatpants and a not too baggy thermal long sleeve shirt and some running shoes should be g2g?
>>27403That's exactly what I wear when I go jumping and don't feel like wearing a jumpsuit, you're gucci
>>27521Awesome thanks bud! I'm psyched and spookd at the same time
Been on 4chins for 15 years and never thought I would ever see a skydiving general.
>>12265What do if I want to get into wingsuit diving but I hated skydiving?
Would it be odd to go skydiving for the first time without telling my friends and family?
>>28034You need a minimum of 200 skydiving jumps, so good luck with that :^)>>28232Not at all, it's very safe, but you ask the average person and they'll think you've got a death wish or something
>>28232I told my parents I'm taking a skydiving course, but didn't tell them when my jumps are lol
>>28034Depends - do you wanna wingsuit base jump? Then quit right now before you kill yourself.Do you wanna wingsuit in the sky? Stick with skydiving for 200 jumps - do a lot of tracking and angle flying, even get a tracking suit. I have friends who took the course at 200 and have done nothing but wingsuit for the last 4 years.
>>28232Absolutely not. Do it for you, focus on the experience not putting on a show for people. That first jump changed my life and I was alone. Since then I've made 2k jumps, been around the world and made the best friends of my life in this sport.
>>28361Those late night bonfires after a sunset pull drinking beers
>>28418fuck yea
>>27863I used to make them on /ASP/
>>28360>>28240Is there no way to buy a suit illegally before 200?
>>28655You can buy a suit sure, but no one will let you near a plane. And if you want to base jump with zero experience, lmao, there's easier ways to kill yourself.
>>27068>lets have people on FJC learn about cocking a pilot chuteNo. The premise is that as per my original post >>23505 its pointless, like >>26774 said it's marketing BS that is making skydiving less safe for no tangible benefit for 99.9% of jumpers.
>>28852I'm not joking when I say this - my turn rig is a nav 200 with non collapseable pilot chute, and my main is a JFX 99. When you get to a 170 and below, a non collapseable pilot chute will steal 1-3mph foreward speed and is noticeable, not only for running a pattern, but in the effect it has pulling on the top skin of the center cell when reinflating and turning. It's not a gimmick.
>>28823Oh cool. And this is not really illegal, it's just against USPA guidelines, right?
>>29023It’s illegal and you’ll eventually die
>>29138Lol I'm pretty sure the federal government does not regulate recreational skydiving
>>29023>>29138>>29159AFF-I here - I could put my grandmother in a VK64 and toss her out of the airplane by herself with no training and it would be legal as far as the Feds are concerned.But seriously - get the 200 jumps. There's a lot to learn in terms of navigation, landing off, flying your canopy, group freefall skills, body position, handling speed that you will need in wingsuiting, as well as nailing stable exits so you don't hit the tail and kill everyone,or end up in a flatspin and no pull. Also you're going to want a longer bridle on your pilot chute, and will quickly outgrow the beginner wingsuit you learn on (that most instructors let you fly for free).It's a good thing it's a 200 jump minimum. Could you buy a wingsuit on facebook, toss it on and jump out somewhere? Possibly, most likely unless someone knew you they wouldn't stop you, but you would also most likely end up with an AAD fire, a two out from a PC in tow, or going in due to a flatspin.
>>29169Yeah I obviously understand /why/ there's a 200-jump minimum, it's just that I really didn't enjoy skydiving, so I'm not sure I'm really up for more of it
>>29180What don't you like about it? What about wingsuiting do you like?
>>29195Well wingsuiting looks cool and I just want to try it, but the first and only time I skydove I had an extremely negative reaction. I thought I was ready, and consciously felt safe and committed, but my body absolutely freaked the fuck out. It was pure terror. I was hyperventilating, I couldn't breathe, my heart was absolutely racing, and it was just awful. When I got to the ground I fell over and could not walk because I had no control of myself, and everyone was laughing at me because I looked like a faggot. It was so weird because I was consciously not scared or worried but my body was and there was this huge disconnect. I was also all cold (probably underdressed) and it was a really weird feeling of all the air rushing in my face, that I was not prepared for. So I don't know, I still am interested in wingsuit flying, but I don't really want to force myself to skydive (which I'm not really into) again.
>>29294Try going to the wind tunnel if there's one nearby. Also don't stare at the ground. You got sensory overload,, it's common among first time jumpers, a lot are even unresponsive in the airGive it another shot or fly in the wind tunnel to see if you like it
>>29294Totally natural reaction to your first time jumping out of a freaking plane!Don't get down, you feeling cold and losing control is common from a massive adrenaline dump.Also, don't feel embarassed from retards laughing at you.
>>29492Do you think it will go away if I keep jumping?
>>29538Yeah you desensitize quickly (6-10 jumps)
Bump for anyone who wants to skydive - YES YOUR FIRST JUMP CAN BE WITH YOUR OWN PARACHUTEIts called AFF, it's a training class followed by a jump with two instructors holding your harness for stability and to pull for you if you freeze up.Generally a tandem is recommended but almost 20 percent of the sport never did a single tandem.
>>29940If only there were tandem wingsuits
>>29538Yeah, honestly, try another tandem and see how you feel.My first time skydiving (tandem) I can barely remember I was freaking out so much. Decided to do a second tandem to see how it was now that I knew what to expect. Suffice to say it went great, signed up for the AFF course there and then. Been jumping since. Still, didn't get over the door fear until jump 19 or so. But, the adrenaline dump on the first jump is typically limited to the first jump.
>>29949Do you realize that wingsuiting involves skydiving? You jump out at the same height, you experience a bit of free fall and you're under a canopy afterwards.
>>30115yeah but it's different
I'm doing my first static line jump on the 10th, I'm hyped lads
>>32273get to a windtunnel m8
>>32310No windtunnels in my country, and shit's expensive too, I'll get to it eventually
>Was thinking of syncing $1k (1 hour) on learning back flying in tunnel.>racked up 1 hour, 45 mins of tunnel time & completed Flyer Level 1 on IBA>Got off AFF in 2020>Tunnel time help immensely>However was only able to do 1 solo before work got in the way>Currently waiting for student stuff to resume at local DZAdvice on approaching back flying? Tried it before in my last tunnel session but was only able to get somewhat stable before getting stuck in a left turn.
Anyone here tried out the VOG audible and have an opinion on it?
>>32510It takes a bit to click before you get it, take your time and think about it
>>32798Never heardof it
Guys I need advice. I have 129 jumps but I haven't jumped since Feb of 2020 due to covid and shit. I was jumping a Sabre 2 135 that I have about 9 jumps on as I just bought it right before my DZ got shut down. I was 131lbs when I was jumping it but I'm 151 at 5'10" now. You guys think it's a mistake jumping straight into the 135 again? Should I sell and get a bigger rig? Kinda nervous desu, I was landing fine with it before.
i did two tandem jumps last summer it was one of the coolest things i've ever done. however i have no interest in doing another tandem. whats the quickest way to get to solo jumping?
>>34305Quickest? Go to some shithole south american, south east asian, or african country and jump, they don't give a shit.
First slack jump this Saturday lads, I've never done a tandem or anything similar so I'm both scared and psyched, pray for me
>>34358kek. i was thinking like an online class or an indoor training facility? i don't want to have some dude ask me to step into the harness and fasten it for me again. it's worth it in the end, but i would really like to jump on my own. having some dude strapped to your back kinda takes away from the experience. first time he made me feel safe, second time i was just like "bro i wish you weren't here"
>>34204Upsize to a 150 for about 15 jumps at least, get the timing and piloting back before you consider going back to the 135. The short lines make it so you can gain more acceleration to the ground and injure yourself quickerT. Jumps at a 2.4 wingloading
>>34305Go to uspa's website find a dz that does AFF.You take an 8 hour course in the ground and jump with two instructors holding you, and you have your own parachute
>>34204Good advice here >>34777Ask to borrow a 150 from someone at your DZ.Failing that, ask for a low pass at 5k so you don't have to worry about traffic, and do a good amount of practice stages and flares up high.Run a good pattern, and if you stage too high, remember to hold it for a second or two and slowly finish the flare as your feet touch down.If the ground is coming up fast and it's going to hurt or injure you - you can never stab out hard enough.I've landed the sabre2 135 no stage no flare at 140 pounds.
>>34876>stab outNewbie here, what does this mean?
>>34909Pulling your toggles as hard as you can for full flare. Typically it's used to describe people who can't swoop, who turn too low to complete a turn before planing outand have to stab downwards to avoid injuring themselves.It has the effect of (if you have enough vertical space) giving you lift and increasing your altitude
>>34924Is that only for smaller chutes? I can't imagine my student parachute getting lift from a full flare, if anything I'd stall it out.
>>34927my turn rig for the last two years was a Nav200 and I currently weight about 155.Yes. If you (at full flight, or even better, during the late state of the recovery arc following a turn) you pull both toggles down into a flare, the Nav will pop up.It can stall if you hold it there.
>>34934In fact we have had students break ankles on landing by going full flare at 10 feet instead of staging, popping up 5-10 feet, and letting go of the toggles.
>>34706Look into AFF or Static Line, and go for your A-license.Training to be a skydiver doesn't necessarily include doing a tandem, but it's a good thing you did a tandem and enjoyed it.
