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>muay thai gen #2 veeraphol edition
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thread for muay thai. ask questions and talk about muay thai and muay thai related stuff


>Understanding traditional scoring
https://khunkaogym.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/a-laymans-guide-to-scoring-a-muay-thai-fight/
https://youtu.be/7J4gzeJO-4Q


>Live shows
>Siam Fight News
https://www.fb.com/SiamFightNews/
>Lumpinee https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYMw_GleQjXnKMjhCY58V4w
>MAX https://www.youtube.com/user/maxmuaythaichannel
>Ch8
https://www.youtube.com/c/Muaych8
>PETCHYINDEE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsN96OvHRSZWiecrdPvy5Wg
>ONE Championship https://www.youtube.com/c/ONEChampionship
>Thai Fight https://www.youtube.com/c/ThaifightOfficial
Also check the thread there's often links posted during events

>Older fights and highlights
https://www.youtube.com/c/vrx_mt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-GLytOn12hONKClFKipxLw
https://www.youtube.com/user/sasagym/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBOXINGWALLABYWORKSHOP
https://www.youtube.com/c/BoxingWorksHermosaBeach
https://www.youtube.com/c/SiamScholar1
https://www.youtube.com/c/ThaiClassic
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn0h1-SKzondK8nGKCo-p8Q/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/ThaifightOfficial
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7YLfEYzInp7HdTYJQX7SOA
https://www.youtube.com/c/RajadamnernChannel
https://www.youtube.com/c/LiveMuayThaiGuy
https://www.youtube.com/user/K1(kickboxing)

>Cool magazine about muay Thai
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/ (translated from French)
>Descriptions of golden age fighters and their fights (ch.1)
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/the-fights-of-anthology-of-golden-age-of-muay-thai-chapter-i/
>Can Thais box? The champions of muay thai + western boxing in Thailand
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/the-champions-of-muay-thai-and-the-boxing-in-thailand/
>"123 ALL-TIME GREATEST MUAY THAI FIGHTERS OF THAILAND" Ch.1
https://www.siamfightmag.com/en/once-upon-a-time-muay-thai-s-greatest-champions-chapter-i-year-50-60/
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>>107758
im having so much trouble learning how to kick properly.. i have some boxing experience and am quite familiar with controlling and feeling the body since I used to dabble in yoga and calisthenics, but this hip and foot rotation is a very unfamiliar movement for me, anyone have any tips? im southpaw - left handed and left legged.
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>>108054
Just keep blasting the bag and think about rotation and hip movement
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>>108054
like anon said it's mostly just repping it out. kicking always feels weird when you start doing it, that's natural. i'd recommend a stretching routine for opening up your hips, and try this exercise out too to get a feel for the motion itself
https://youtu.be/zc6fuRNsy0M
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NOW: petchyindee https://youtu.be/ta-oAAfOjDQ
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funny how often people say muay thai doesn't have footwork or head movement. if you think that you just don't watch enough muay thai. like boxing some fighters use a lot of footwork and some don't. knee and clinch fighters tend to use less complex footwork than punchers and femur fighters
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i like how sangmanee controls the head to misdirect the punch here
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>gym oldie who’s been kicking my ass in sparring teaches me a new way to throw a cross
>it lands everytime on everyone
feels gud bros
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>>108284
awesome. we love a good cross
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damn karuhat fucked this dude up
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>>108292
fight?
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>>108294
https://youtu.be/xVpJge_UKZc
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>>108296
lmao, easy money.
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>>108284
Tell us more
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I may suck at skating and I'll never fuck supermodels but at least I'm not a dyel like this twink bitch
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>>108447
Sorry i meant to post that in the skateboarding thread
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I just did something funny in sparring. I faked a super telegraphed high kick then chopped down mid way to the leg.
It just came to me while getting my head knocked. Upon further research i found out kyokushin guys do something similar to hide intention
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>>108114
getting there guys, first session on my tire tower today, managed up to about 50 kicks before i needed my shinguards.. shit hurts.. but, getting the movement down, turning it into one motion... letsgoo
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>>108295
looks like they're fighting outside a damn gas station
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>>108496
lmao. it's just the lighting, that's old Lumpinee bro
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I found kicking a bag or another person felt a lot better, and helped me learn faster than kicking air.
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>>108605
definitely. it helps to have that physical feedback. way more natural
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Rajadamnern World Series: https://youtu.be/Yr2tLqQq0wg
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Hello, started muay thai training recently and was wondering what gym routine would in combination
regular PPL?
link very appreciated
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>>108766
how is it going? I want to get into Muay Thai, how expensive is a training session?
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Was Jean Charles Skarbowsky one of the best farangs of the golden era? Apart from Dekkers ofc
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>>108766
lift on the days you don't do muay thai if you can. it can be pretty draining to do both in the same day.
as far as workouts go i'd recommend high rep - low weight. you could even do a lot of calisthenics like pushups, pullups, leg lifts, etc. they're very beneficial to muay thai. in terms of weight lifting i think high rep low weight is the way to go for the most part, and think about compound lifts. mix in some really high weight and really low rep sometimes for explosiveness.
here's an example of a really high tier kickboxer's weight training. Superbon knows his stuff
https://youtu.be/EqQXemf6xbE
>>108770
the price will depend on where you live really
>>108775
he was towards the latter end of the golden era but he was better than dekkers. dekkers actually lost to thais more than he won. and skarbowsky was ranked in thai stadiums, #1 at raja iirc. dekkers never as. skarbowsky was pretty successful in thailand. dany bill is the best foreigner imo. he was special. skarbowsky is definitely one of the best though, easily.
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>>108770
its kinda ok, I pay $150 per month and go 5-6 times a week with 1 full rest day
I'd say I make my money's worth
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>>108781
thats getting your moneys worth for sure
my friends used to go to a muay thai near me but I forgot how much it was
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>>107758
Tips on punching? I have bitch hands and I'm trying to get them stronger, but I'm afraid of messing up in the proccess.
I aim to always hit with the main knuckle
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>>108824
yeah wear gloves, jesus
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>>108803
is that tony weeks? never knew he reffed muay thai
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>>108766
>>108781
PPL is 6 days a week too? Are you a monster or sumshit
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>>108902
no no, PPL is like 2-3 times a week
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>>109016
then your weight training is kinda lackluster, switch to full body, it's better for both muscle gains and for MT
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Chamuaktong with no mouthguard on in a fight lol
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>>109211
Refs allow that?
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>>109252
i guess so. i've never seen it before that, that's why i was like wtf lol. no clue why you wouldn't wear a mouthguard for a fight though that's crazy
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today I learned what an overhand is, blew my fucking mind, I feel like only brawling retards use it which is perfect for me
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An overhand is just a synonym for a cross. There's semantics to be argued but it's the same classification.
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>>109382
depends on the coach. some people distinguish a cross as a straight from outside and over the guard and an overhand doesn't have to be straight. some things you would call an overhand wouldn't really classify as a straight. it doesn't really matter anyways
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I want to start with muay thai but there is only a muay thai boran gym close to me. Is there a big difference?
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>>109393
well muay boran is like the TMA version of muay thai. boran means "ancient" and muay boran is referring to the unarmed fighting techniques used in siam before muay thai was more centralized and gamified.
really weird they advertise themselves as a muay boran gym especially if you're not in thailand which i'm assuming you're not if there's no muay thai around lol. if the coaches aren't thai i definitely wouldn't bother personally. even if they are thai i'd be skeptical. it could just be a normal muay thai gym with some unorthodox strikes that aren't really used anymore or it could be some weird bullshido larp with "ultra deadly ancient techniques". impossible to tell without checking it out really but i would be skeptical
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Bought a pair of Muay Thai shorts for my first class later this week and I was not expecting these to be this short. I don't know if I've got the quads to rock these.
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>>109393
I had a gym like that in a town I used to live in. Some American woman teaching "Muay boran" for some reason. It was kind of like a cardio kickboxing class with some self defense style drills. No sparring because it was 2deadly for the ring. For a rinky dink town like that, you could do a lot worse. But I ended up going with a BJJ school instead.
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how did this mf lerdsila have 200 stadium fights, 3 radja belts and defended for 4 years but there's like 5 of his fights in on youtube and half of them are past his muay thai days against chinese in kunlun and other random chinese orgs
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Saenchai just signed up for bare knuckle, Im not gonna lie him and Buakaw are like 40 years old and known for their kicks rather than punches so I dont want to see my idols knocked out. But a man has to make money ig
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>>109424
they've both fought better boxers than anyone in bkfc will offer them. i'd be surprised if saenchai even gets hit clean. dude's been knocked out one time in his entire career back in 1996 when he was 17 and it was by one of the best around at the time. (he eventually rematched him twice and won their third fight in 1999)
they'll give him some can to crush for an exhibition match in thailand and that'll be about it i'm sure
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>>109424
Not a big fan of thai boxers but anyone that has a fraction of boxing knowledge knows that any thai pro that goes into pro boxing has a solid chin.
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>>109426
Do pro Thai fighters tend to end up as punch drunk as pro boxers? Is that a well known thing in Thailand? I know that Muay Thai has a lot more body shots that other combat sports but these dudes still seem to get their bell rung a lot.
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>>109429
to be completely honest with you it's hard for me to tell because i don't speak thai. i do watch a lot of interviews or content with older thai guys like dieselnoi, veeraphol, karuhat, yodkhunpon. they seem alright. definitely a little CTE going on with a lot of them but i have yet to see any thais as bad as someone like evander holyfield or any other boxers known for bad speech. they just are slow to pick their phrases sometimes.
of course there's CTE in muay thai, it's inevitable. especially considering the very young ages at which they usually start fighting. but i think the nature of the sport with its focus around kicks and the strength of clinching it might not be as severe as if they were boxing from the same age.
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>>109430
pornsanae sitmonchai ended up shooting someone in a dispute over a rug. he was a fan favorite and a really strong puncher but a brawler. sylvie even has a session with him on the muay thai library and he's a chill, friendly dude. all the accounts i've ever heard of him say he's pretty friendly. i'd say there's a good chance he's affected by CTE, for example
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>>109375
Thats a sexy feint right there
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>>109424
this is the opponent Buakaw will be fighting in bkfc by the way. he's a kickboxer too, not even a boxer. seems like a professional can, guy somehow has losses to sacko and even petrosyan lol. last time he won a fight was 2016 and he didn't win a fight in all of 2015
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fun fact: muay thai was just called thai boxing in the west until Pudpadnoi went to France in the 80s and advised Jacques Mairesse to change the sign on his gym from Thai Boxing to Muay Thai.
Another fun fact about the legend Pudpadnoi, the French/Thai muay community loved him so much they made a rap song about him (apparently rap was trendy in the 80s in France) in Thai called "Moo Khaeng Tong" and it was apparently the first rap song released in Thailand
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>>109396
what's the defense against that? If he gets your neck then it's done
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>>109546
You have to control the opponents arms or less preferrably make sure there is no space between you
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>>109546
don't let people get a plum on you. it's a double collar tie, very strong position but you really only see people who don't know how to clinch get stuck in it. there's a couple ways to escape it but some of them are dangerous. safest is probably just keeping your hips in close and swimming up and out. you'll see thais "swimming" in the clinch a lot where they're making strokes with their arms over or under their opponents' arms to get dominant grips. if you don't want to clinch get a body lock, get your hips in and try to throw them. like i said there's a couple options depending on your goal and how safe you want to be
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apparently Lerdsila fought in some sanda matches at one point. he gets double legged and single legged in this fight lmao i was half expecting to see a sprawl out of him
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The only martial arts gym in my area only does muay thai on tuesday/thursday/saturday. it's a bit pricy too at $180 a month just for muay thai training alone.
classes start at 6pm and are an hour long but can still train at the gym til 10pm.
I mean I think it all depends on how you go about it, to say if it's worth it or not, but would you pay that much?
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>>109706
$180 is not unheard of. depends where you live. that can be expensive or it can be normal depending on where you live. there's a place by me that's $75 a session and people pay it.
whether i'd pay it or not depends on how much muay thai is worth to you. i really really like muay thai so yeah i'd pay $180 a month, like i said it's not unheard of. most gyms do trial classes for free so you could try to check it out and see how into it you are.
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>>109706
I pay 150 a month and get muay thai and bjj classes everyday. Only exception is Friday being open mat muay thai. 180 for that seems like a lot
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>>109211
speaking of Chamuaktong, he just had his final fight. looks like no mouthguard kek guess he just doesn't use one!
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so sylvie von duuglas ittu does this thing where she asks the fighters she trains with who their top 5 goat nak muay are (for example, here's Yodkhunpon's top 5 https://youtu.be/GxKoJh--JIo). based on the tallies these are the answers so far
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rewatching some wangchannoi fights. his jab was crazy. so snappy and he would throw it to the body, into the guard, at the face. looked like people were getting hit with hooks when the jab landed flush lol
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>>109892
honestly his whole left hand was ridiculous. definitely one of the best to make use of lead hand in muay thai history. he did just about everything you can do with a lead hand
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>>109802
just don't get hit
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>>109898
well he made it his entire career and still has all his teeth (from what I can see). very impressive especially considering he was fighting in 4oz gloves at one point lol. i've never seen someone fight without a mouthguard before
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>>109832
Made me sad no one said Yodkhunpon :((
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>>109944
yodkhunpon was fun as fuck and always had entertaining fights. definitely a legend. but i don't think he was as lauded as the other guys they rate just because elbow fighters are considered "ugly" and yodkhunpon had a very "raw" style. the other fighters really rate people who do it all: kick, punch, knee, elbow, balance. if you look at the fighters they rate they're almost all femur style fighters, even dieselnoi says he considers himself femur despite clearly being the muay khao king lol. also compared to the other guys they rate, yodkhunpon didn't have as many wins against other stadium goats at the time afaik. like Wangchannoi KO'd Namkabuan in 33 seconds, beat Samart AND his brother Kongtoranee, KO'd Cherry, beat Karuhat and Oley... and he still only makes 17th because a lot of fighters just don't list him top 5 lol.
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>>109945
also have to keep in mind some of these fighters are older than yodkhunpon and fought well before he did. so naturally someone like Dieselnoi who fought in the 80s is going to rate the guys he fought against personally and the guys he looked up to higher than the next gen of youngins that fought in the 90s that he's never been kicked by. people always tend to have a bias towards their own peers
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>>109947
Idk if this applies much desu, a lot of them picked Saenchai.

>>109945
Btw you seem to be knowledgeble on this stuff, are there any other golden age/new fighters that are heavy on Muay Sok fighting? I've watched a decent few Yodkhunpon fights now, and want to investigate further
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>>109953
it definitely does apply. saenchai is the exception not the standard lol. saenchai is just undeniable, even the older guys know how good he is. if you watch the videos even sylvie talks about how they tend to rate their peers and inspirations higher than newer generations
as far as elbow fighters go Muangthai is a beast, Lamsongkram, Karuhat had really good elbows despite not being a clinch specialist (he was just amazing at everything lol)... honestly you don't see a lot of fighters who are based on their elbows, they're mostly just worked in by every style as they enter and exit from punch and clinch range. or you see spinning elbows and straight elbows when people come rushing in >>107763
muay thai is a job to these guys and elbows cause cuts. all the fighters are mostly friendly with each other and don't really harbor ill-will, so they don't want to put their opponent out of a job for however long that cut takes to heal. so fighters don't tend to focus on elbows in everyday stadium matches, mostly throwing them with intentions to KO rather than cut and you don't tend to see them in the early rounds. of course, if it's a title fight or a tournament or a big bet is on the line or there's a big prize, etc, they'll definitely start whizzing elbows at each other. you just don't see a lot of fighters whose style revolves around elbows because of the stuff i mentioned
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>>109954
Got you

What would you assume is the highest scoring style overall? from the OP post it looks like a good thrower with some good knees would be the perfect combo for scoring high
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>>109962
yeah, good clinchers and good kickers are really tough to beat.
good muay khao and good kickers are definitely the most point-efficient fighters in muay thai. if you're good at clinching and your opponent isn't there's not much he can do except fight off the back foot all fight. and when it comes to good kickers, they're the goats in terms of performance. pudpadnoi, karuhat, i mean half the people on the top 20 are known for their kicks. muay thai is really a kicking sport at the end of the day
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the head coach of my gym trained smokin jo nattuwut and I want to watch petrosyan (fellow southpaw) fight him knowing Jo lost but i just cant root for farang fighters, I gotta change that
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>>109534
I knew a Hungarian guy who called it Thai boxing and you still hear that term now and again.
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>>109546
Clinch is very technical and you have to have a good knowledge of when to close or create space and how to unbalance your opponent in order to maintain a dominant position. Like >>109557 said, there's a lot of options in each position but like any form of grappling it gets more complex the deeper into it you get.
Clinching is OP against people who don't know how to and I don't think many people who don't train MT really understand just how big of a deal it is.
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>>110670
Most girls/10
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Finally got my fat ass back into a muay thai gym yesterday.
It's embarrassing being the only fat fuck there, and it's even worse that I'm not as strong as I used to be because of my weight and laziness. my kicks don't even compare to the other guys, and I even winced at the first kick I was given holding pads for this one guy.
what's crazy is that for a long while now, I feel like even if I was in my best shape and the training I was in back then, I probably couldn't hold a candle against these guys.
I should be ashamed of myself for being such a weak fat fuck, but I can't continue on living as one.
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>>110754
rome wasn't built in a day fella. everyone is weak, slow, and in pain when they first start. everyone. even the best guys you see. the difference between them and you is the amount of time they've been doing it. all you have to do is stick with it and you'll get there. truth is most people quit eventually and the best guys you see are just the ones who never quit
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kongnapa doing more damage in K-1 last night
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if you've ever seen a muay thai match from start to finish you've seen the wai kru ram muay before, the little dance they do at the beginning of a fight. they vary by gym and fighter.
this is Chamuakaw. They call him Buakawnoi as a nickname, little Buakaw. he's known for having a really cool ram muay where he pulls out a machine gun (a literal machine gun, his corner hands him a plastic one) and buries his opponent kek
https://streamable.com/bvfwsr
would post a webm but 4chan is stuck in 2006 and has a 2 minute length limit
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a lot of people are familiar with ONE muay thai and mma star Stamp Fairtex but most people don't know she learned how to fight from her papa and her papa was a stadium muay fighter himself.
she also has a little brother who fights in muay thai (his name is Shokun and his fight name used to be Rodtang after the famous one who was dating his sister. he had 50 fights by age 9 and won almost all of them. I'd imagine he has a different fight name these days since Rodtang and Stamp broke up though lol) who learned from their papa
so far i've only seen these two fights of his (Wisanlek is his name) but he gets brutally knocked out in both of them
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Live at Omnoi:
https://fb.watch/eSY1jJxtni/?fs=e&s=cl
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Tonight in Koh Samui starting 20:30 Thai local time.
1. Tapaokaew Singmawynn vs Hercules Wor.Jakrawut (142lb/145lb)
2. View Petchkoson vs Kompetch ChotBangsaen/Sitsarawatseur (126lb)
3. Chalam Parunchai vs PetchSukhumvit BoyBangna (131lb)
4. (Main event) Kulabdam SorJor.PiekUthai vs Rambolek Tor.Yotha (141lb)
5. Harry Moore/WMCsamui vs Petchrahu KiriratGym (148lb)
6. Pakasit PanchitMuayThai vs Luca Lassalle/BullMuayThai (132lb/134lb)
7. Petchsingkorn Lukdonsak vs Hero SuccessGym (118lb/120lb)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZWTTOK428
awesome energy in this fight
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>"there's no head movement in muay thai" "there's no boxing in muay thai" "there's no footwork in muay thai" "lethwei is muay thai with headbutts and no gloves so it's even more badass"
SHUT THE FUCK
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Does this look like a good gym? It's the closest muay thai gym to me (like a 6 minute drive).

https://www.instagram.com/anhfairtex/?hl=en
https://koafitnesscenter.com/

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>>111281
absolutely bro. looks like a great gym. Anh is 100% legit, that gym looks awesome. and it looks like you'll get to meet some great fighters there with the seminars they do which is always cool. they had Superbon there last year and Samart this year apparently. give it a go for sure if you're interested
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>>111287
dayum that lean back, so smooth.
Really who would've expected a hook/crescent hybrid kick like that
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I'm on my first week training Mauy Thai at this new gym, and for me it's kinda weird not seeing any sparring sessions during or after class. in my last gym we did light sparring almost everyday during the end of class and on fridays, a bit harder sparring after class. I'd like to ask one of the coaches how often they do sparring but I feel like it might be a bit rude of me to ask that, since I'm very new there.
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>>111338
you could just ask about sparring in general. if you're interested tell them you have experience sparring and ask how often they spar there, it could be invite only on certain nights after regular classes or something like that.
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I ordered from Top King online over a month ago and haven't got my new shorts yet, they weren't kidding about the 3-5 weeks production time. Customer support said they were having some supply issues
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>>111599
where'd you order from? i usually order my stuff from a retail shop rather than straight from the manufacturer. for example my top king shinguards i bought from superexportshop and they got here to Florida from Thailand in 5 days flat just a couple months ago
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>>111163
Dieselnoi style
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>>111627
this was the first time I ordered from the brand directly, I usually use superexportshop too, shipping price is steep but the stuff is way cheaper than over here, i just couldn't find the specific shorts I wanted on the sxs site
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>>111672
Because he already got paid and hes not dumb enough to sit through two rounds of watching thai ladyboys play with each others legs.
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>>111700
you're a delusion moron if you think anyone at Rangsit paid for Seagall to show up lmao he was there on a trip with some chinese actor you retarded faggot
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Guys, I bought venum contender shinguards a month ago and the footguard started falling off. Got them replaced and the new pair is starting to go off.

Did I fuck up with buying venum shin guards? I just do technical drills and light sparring with them
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>>111726
Venum is shit quality yeah, had the same thing happen with their handwraps
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LMAO Buakaw said exhibition these nuts. RWS just finished for the day and Buakaw beat the hell out of his exhibition partner
>>111726
i've heard mixed things about venum. in any case they shouldn't be breaking down within a month. weird that they're falling apart so early i don't think that's normal, can you return your pair and get a different one? might be a build issue or something. i know synthetic leather stuff can break down pretty quickly if you're using it seriously. i use top king pro shinguards and they're made with genuine leather, genuine leather always tends to hold up better
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>>109890
apparently wangchannoi used to drink raw eggs in the morning. raw eggs with a can of sprite on top lmao. fucking nasty. first thing i thought when i heard that was "yep wangchannoi definitely fights like someone who wakes up and drinks raw eggs"
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>>111338
TA my muay thai gym they dont even want you sparring until you have the basics down and have enough cardio to not have your technique be thrown out the window in the first 30 seconds
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>>111858
yep that's common practice with any half-decent gym. like i've mentioned before it's both a liability for the owners to let randoms spar before they've been evaluated and it can be dangerous and ultimately pointless. no use in sparring if you don't have anything to practice yet, no use in sparring if you can't keep your hands up for 30 seconds. things like that. there's usually a probationary period for new members before they're allowed to or invited to spar unless you can clearly demonstrate to the coaches that you have experience already and aren't going to get hurt or hurt other people.
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>>111726
Try to get refund
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Should I take a private lesson on holding pads? It is the only part of muay thai I don't like as I can't do it properly and have no one to practice with. I can hit combos on pads fine but my learning to hold pads spoils the other person's pad hitting experience. Also I dont have much money for privates. Would it be cheeky to ask for half an hour instead of 1?
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>>111870
Yeah, thinking I will do that and check out top king or fairtex
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>>111833
Ouch. I feel like that doesn't even count as a fight anymore.
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>>111904
kek and believe it or not, that's buakaw going easy ion the kid and pulling his strikes. notice he knees with his thighs instead of the knees, he kickes into the gloves, lot of his punches go past his head instead of into it, throws body shots when he could hit the head clean. that's buakaw's version of being nice lmao
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>>111286
Did petrosyan dutch block that kick? Is dutch blocking common in muay thai, i know it was in k1
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>>111873
I suggest twins special aswell
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>>111934
yeah petrosyan dutch blocked, but that's a kickboxing bout. you rarely see thai fighters do it if ever, in stadium muay thai kicking the arm still scores a point. better to check it or catch it and counter with your own kick.
dutch blocking leaves them in better position to counter afterwards, thais are more about maintaining posture and never leaving openings. when you dutch block you leave the other side of your face open. just the nature of the two styles what with dutch stylists being obviously heavier boxers. petrosyan does have a background in muay thai as well but he's always incorporated more handwork than the average thai. europeans tend to be more boxing heavy in general
imo it's also kind of predictable, you load up on a dutch block so there's really only going to be certain strikes coming at you. look at how superbon immediately slipped and countered after the block because he already knew what was coming and the direction.
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Opinions on UFC gyms for Muay Thai? I know it's down to the instructor obviously but any other thoughts on them?
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>>112386
muay thai for mma is a lot different from muay thai as a sport. if you have no other options or you're more interested in mma than muay thai go for it. compare it to boxing, you can learn how to box from an mma gym but it's not going to be the same shit as if you went to a boxing gym. if you just want to learn some striking mma gyms are great. if you want to learn muay thai specifically, not really. really depends on your personal goals and interests
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How realistic is it to compete at any level if you're just starting out at 29?

Also what kind of competition levels exist? I've seen things like local tournaments, where fighters compete with shin guards and headgear, but then I've also seen 'amateur' fights where it's only boxing gloves. Obvious not considering pro or even amateur level competition but I have an actual interest in fighting a real person outside of hard sparring.
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>>112389
Heavyweights look so... sloppy and unskilled, even in nuay thai. Why is that?
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>>112600
winning stadium belts? probably not in your future, although technically there's nothing stopping you.
competing at all? 100% easily realistic, 29 is still young and plenty of years to learn and compete left. there's levels of competition for every stage, availability will depend on where you live but assuming you're not a massive hulk or a tiny little midget you shouldn't have problems finding opponents. there's literally zero reason you can't have a fight, the only person stopping you is you. i've seen people start in their 50s and have their first fight in their 50s. no age limit bro it's all on you
>>112619
idk maybe you just don't know what to look for? ciryl gane looks clean to me. they're bigger dudes, gane is 6'4 and at least 200lbs in that clip. more mass = less acceleration, they're going to look slower than a 5'6 115lb Veeraphol lol that's just how it works
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>>112389
Different anon here, if I'm not looking to compete, will it actually matter? There's a part of me that wants to go for the "purest" MT experience I can get, but I also feel that without the competition aspect, it's more practical for me to mix MT with something more ground-focused like wrestling or BJJ (which would probably point me towards an MMA gym).
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awesome signing. good for Ferrari, good for ONE. wouldn't be surprised if they signed him just for the websearch engagements kek. he is really good though and a good fit for the organization
>>112649
i mean, these are sports at the end of the day. we do it for fun. do what you're interested in. nobody ever talks about the practicality of basketball or baseball versus hockey or bicycling do they? practical how, like are you a bouncer? or are you just a regular guy like me and will never be involved in a fight outside of the gym? people always want to talk about practicality when it comes to martial arts but martial arts aren't practical. they wear down your body over time and they cost money. when it comes to self defense i'll trust 15 rounds of 9mm and my dog before i try to teep somebody. i'm a grown man and haven't gotten into a physical altercation since i was in high school, it's just not a valid concern for most people. and the secret truth is most people can't fight for shit, are out of shape and most physical altercations are over within a couple seconds. a year of training in muay thai or bjj or wrestling or boxing is going to give you the means to defend yourself against 90% of people, doesn't really matter what combat sport you practice if there's sparring involved.
if the idea of being more "well-rounded" is appealing to you, then go to an mma gym. wrestling is op, bjj is really fun and has a lot of depth. but do it because it's fun and you want to learn how to grapple too, not out of fear that you're going to get double-legged by a wrestler in a bar fight lol
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>>112645
Thanks bro, yeah I have no interest in professional or even amateur fighting really. I would just like to experience stepping into the ring with someone who is intent on winning, beyond just hard sparring. I just don't know anyone yet so I have no reference points regarding how competitions usually go down.
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Rodtang out of his fight tomorrow due to undisclosed "illness". Heard he didn't turn in a hydration test. ONE really fucking these dudes up with their hydration testing, wish they would just drop it and do weight like everyone else. Tomorrow's my birthday and I was looking forward to Rodtang, fuck sake!
>>112669
don't worry, you'll definitely get the chance. just have to sign up is all
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>>112834
brutal, I heard that Harrison just had stem cell treatment on his knees a little while ago too. crazy, Nong-O just ripped those kickes right into the knee lmao didn't give a fuck. can be dangerous for him too if he hits the knee wrong.
all 3 of the Thais made it look way too easy last night. i knew panpayak was going to be way worse for savvas than rodtang lol. panpayak is a much different fight but so technical. and superlek is superlek, none of the foreigners were ever going to beat him lol. probably my favorite to win the grand prix
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>>108296
Based. Fuck glove-touchers.
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>>109524
>and even petrosyan lol.
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Petrosyan is one of the greatest kickboxers ever.
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I think one of my ribs got cracked from a match, it hurts to take deep breaths and lean backwards but not twisting side to side
That means I should stop training for a while right or will it heal if I keep training but don't spar
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>>113069
yeah no shit even petrosyan as in somehow this bum managed to get himself a fight with him as in he's a professional can
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Everybody seems to say that if you want to progress with muay thai, you absolutely have to run and it's non-negotiable.
Is the running necessary because the activity of running itself helps foster the bone density that everyone goes on about, is it just for the cardio conditioning, or a combination of both?
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>>113107
all of it. mental conditioning and physical conditioning both. running on concrete is good for your shins, running long distances (especially in Thai weather) is good for your mental strength. they usually don't run very fast
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>>113095
if there's pain take time off. aches and bruises are one thing but if it's actually physically painful to do something wait for it to heal. too many times people continue to train through minor injuries and end up making them lasting or even lifelong when they could be over it in a week if they would stop aggravating the injury.
look into sports-related injury recovery. things like liniment oils and massages, compression, icing, elevation etc. those things speed up recovery a lot.
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>>113153
for a bruised rib you should be able to ice it for 10-20 minutes at a time for a couple days until the swelling goes down. then do the same thing with a warm cloth instead of an ice pack until the pain goes away. the thing with bruised ribs is if you keep fucking with it, it's not going to go away quickly. you could take a week or two to heal it and then be good to go or you could try to train through it, keep getting blasted in the ribs and deal with the pain for months instead.
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>>113153
>>113154
Thanks, I'll do the ice thing
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>>108054
You need to stretch, you need to accept you will suck for a while, and you need to do thousands of reps on a bag.
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could be a good thing or a bad thing. can't imagine Lumpinee gets any more down bad than they've already been the last couple years, so maybe Chatri will bring some spark back to the stadium
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>>113151
Understood. Thanks.
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>>113378
lol. i don't really watch streetbeefs myself, i've seen a couple fights on their youtube. i like that they're giving randoms the outlet to fight if they want to experience what it's like in a "controlled" environment i guess
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>>113151
If the camp is in Phuket or Chiangmai you can get beach or mountain run or something. But how do they even run in bangkok? Do they just wake up and inhale a lungful of moped exhaust and think "what a good day to run"?
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muay thai has no defense and just rams into each other until someone falls
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>>115142
Skill issue
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>>107758
I know its not typically done in Myau Thai but what are some conditioning for fists other than say knuckle push ups that are done for toughening up them bones? Karate has makiwara training, Kung Fu has hitting sand... Myau Thai kicks trees with their shins to toughen them. There must be some traditional knuckle toughening training right?

I personally started toughening up knuckles by just tapping against concrete wall lightly and increasing distance the more comfortable the pain got to bear. (It doesn't really hurt that much if you aren't going full force like a retard at the start.)

> Inb4. Causes arthritis.

Only if you are predisposed and do retarded shit like actually breaking the knuckles and not letting them heal.
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>>115157
What Bruce Lee meant by "Be Like Water My Friend."
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>>115275
hit bags. that's all you need. if you want, hit bags without gloves (but still wrap your hands to prevent abrasions and wrist injuries).
they don't kick trees in thailand brotha. they kick bags and pads. a lot. like, a lot a lot. hundreds of reps a day. that's why their shins are so hard. look up wolff's law; hitting the bag, running, weightlifting etc these sorts of things increase load on your bones and so eventually help bone hardening. no need to punch concrete
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>>115265
In most of those webms you linked fighters are either checking or catching kicks, using long guard or defending elbows in the clinch by hand position, you also specifically didn't link any of the webms of Lerdsila slipping shots.
If you can't see the defence in these fights, I stand by my original assessment of it being a skill issue on your part.
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>>115390
he's retarded don't bother lol
people who don't know anything about muay Thai of course aren't going to understand the mechanics. it's easy to watch boxing and see people slipping and ducking so dramatically because they're allowed to; there's no knees or shins coming to put you in a coma or elbows to cut through your high guard. in kickboxing and boxing you can just shell up and take turns; in muay thai they'll throw an elbow through your shit guard and sleep you. in boxing you can afford to make massive showy movements because it's just two hands coming at you, so of course the defense is more noticeable to casuals.
i think a great example of the differences between muay Thai defense and other striking sports is highlighted greatly by Samart. watch Samart fight in muay Thai, then watch him fight in Boxing. It's the same fucking guy, but the defense is so much different. It's not like he doesn't know how to slip and weave, it's that muay Thai doesn't allow for that shit. There's consequences to it. you have to be slight in muay thai.
i'll post some clips of Samart after this, some of him in muay Thai and then I'll show his defense in boxing. the difference is night and day and it's the same dude.
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>>115392
right here is a great example. Samart slips and weaves into Juan to stuff the rest. if he did that in muay Thai, he'd just get grabbed in a clinch and probably knee'd up from there. muay Thai clinch isn't like the boxing clinch. the clinch stops so much of this bobbing and weaving on the ropes shit because they can just grab you and start smashing knees into your sides or your abdomen. you're not allowed to do half this shit because people will literally just put their hands on you lmao. Samart is a femur keepaway kind of fighter anyways too. he's pesky and likes to circle away from you constantly and make you chase him. he has the same style in boxing too. but in muay thai the last thing he wants to do is get caught in a clinch because it's exhausting and he's not a clinch fighter.
you can get away with it here and there, and fighters absolutely do get away with it. but if you make it a habit people will pick up on it and take advantage of you and you'll end up hurt.
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>>115395
see here, he slips and goes BACKWARDS instead. he can't just weave in and continue to slip because wangchannoi could've easily just grabbed him and that's the opposite of what Samart wants to happen. like I said, this shit still happens it's just more subtle and the dynamics of when and where it happens are different because the opportunities aren't the same. idk why that's such a hard concept for people to grasp but i see it all the fucking time "muay thai has no defense" lmao i just know when people say that they don't know shit about striking
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>>115390
and you're absolutely right. the use of the various different guards, kick checks and catching, the ENTIRE clinch game itself, hand fighting and feints... all these things are happening all the time in any given muay thai bout. clinching in muay thai is basically standing BJJ lol. shit gets deep. of course, again, if you're a casual you don't even know half this shit exists and it's not super flashy a lot of the time so you're never going to pick up on it. it all happens so fast you need an eye for it to begin with.
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Chatri from ONE is going to be pumping funds into Lumpinee in an effort to restore the stadium to its former glory. seems based so far. people are always so against Chatri and his shenanigans but he's the only one out here doing shit for muay thai on a scale this big. get them kids paid
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>>115867
i wonder if his shows will be the same rules and style as ONE muay thai, ie 4oz gloves and different scoring criteria. i hope not, to be honest. if he's really giving out the highest purses in Thailand then of course the fighters are going to want to fight in his show and if that's the goal for fighters then nobody's going to bother to clinch anymore just like nobody clinches in ONE muay thai. ONE muay Thai is really entertaining and fun to watch but it's not really muay thai lol it's kickboxing with elbows. i'd hate to see stadium muay turn into just kickboxing with elbows.
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dunno where to asks this but im joining a mt/mma place in a month or maybe more. i just want to have an 'average' or possibly 'decent' level of cardio going into it so i wont waste tons of time just being a gasping disaster after 2 minutes.how much do i have to jog in order to feel like i am 'decent'. and yes i know, its not necessary, you can just get your cardio on site but i dont care, i have time to kill before i can do this. thanks.
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>>115915
>how much
more

Also why is Meksen fighting Stamp Fairtex under mixed rule?? Both can fight under MT or KB rule
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>>116102
because chatri is trying to sell mma to asians and especially thailand lately. he has some plan to introduce mma into lumpinee (i know fairtex already does mma there but it's dead af) and water muay thai down for mma fans. what better way to get people interested in the sport they don't give a fuck about than by forcing their favorite fighters to participate right? lol
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Anyone have tips for a first timer who has a bit of a bad knee/weak leg? Going tonight. Tore/reconstructed my left ACL a couple years back and it's healed well although some tendons clunk around when I straighten it (not painful), and my hamstring still feels a little weak. Tips for training with a previous injury are appreciated.
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Barely ever worked out for the last 8 years, initially due to an injury and more recently just due to laziness. I'm starting muay thai next week. Wish me luck bros, I hope to get fit and learn how to defend myself in the process and hopefully have a good time.
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>>116132
never had a serious injury myself but from what I understand rest and rehab is the key. massage, hot/cold therapy, things like that. just give it extra attention in your recovery routine. also preventative measures like stretching/yoga to "prepare" the weaker part for activity. and of course physical therapy to strengthen the bad bits in question but i'm sure your docs told you about that by now lol
>>116155
good luck, you won't need it though. no luck needed, just some willpower and a big ol' ballsack. have fun!
>hopefully
trust me it's always a good time
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Sangmanee's ONE return and Ferrari's debut. Should be a pretty decent card. Petchmorakot vs Tawanchai will be super high level
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I just started practicing on the bag a week ago. My question is should I be practicing both legs equally when I'm kicking? Because right now I'm pretty comfortable with a left roundhouse kick (southpaw) but the right one feels very awkward. Should I just do right kicks until I get it right? Thanks in advance bros.
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>>116335
I probably wouldn't work too hard on your inside leg kick(your lead right leg in southpaw) for now. It doesn't seem like it, but it's a relatively complicated technique and you will form bad habits without coaching. It's also just an awkward strike to practice on a bag, rather than a pad holder. Lead right roundhouse to the body just isn't that useful(not on the liver side), and if you've just begun you probably won't have the flexibility to throw head kicks with your lead leg. So I would just try to make your rear left leg, body, and head roundhouses really clean and difficult to tell apart. The only kick you should focus on learning with your lead right leg is the teep to the body.

TLDR; focus on your rear left leg roundhouses and lead right teep until you join a gym
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>>116345
correction: your lead right leg as a southpaw would be an outside low kick if your opponent is orthodox... Still, it's a bit awkward on a bag.
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>>109534
Most clubs I've seen nearby in northern England are called (Town/Name) Thai Boxing Club. I Used to go to one called Wigan Thai Kickboxing Club (WTKBC). It's closed now.
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>>109832
I like Namsaknoi.
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I just got back from my first Muay Thai class. It went ok. I'm pretty out of shape, and the warmup wore me out more than expected. After that, we did drills on teeps and counters, which was fun.
The instructor trained in Thailand and seems to know his stuff.
It went by really fast (barely over an hour), and classes are twice per week. I'll definitely go to the second one in my free trial week.
There doesn't seem to be anything for individual curriculum, so I guess I'll just have to learn fundamentals over time and work on my cardio outside of class. I feel like I could learn faster if I had some kind of list of fundamentals to study, so maybe I'll look into that. I also didn't hear anything about sparring, so I'll have to ask about that next time. I see "open mat" and "live rounds" on the schedule, so they probably have it there. Hopefully that's not just the BJJ group.
Thanks for reading my blog and helping me with criteria for vetting gyms.
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>>116361
Haha I remember my first warm up. I was 15 (2010) with barely any athletic ability. Not really fat but just skinny and unathletic and wanted to learn because I watched history's strongest disciple kenichi lol. My calves radically changed shape after that day. Hit you clean with the counter-blog.
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>>116362
Yeah, I definitely felt the burn in my calves. I've been lifting weights for years, so mine are thankfully strong enough to hold my fat ass up for a few laps, but they definitely complained.
Training legs tomorrow, too... That might be rough lol
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>>116368
It was all the skipping that did me. They told us all to skip and everyone else just started skipping like pros. Me and my friend were doing that stupid both feet at once with a little jump in between skip haha you could hear the whole floor booming since it was upstairs. We looked at each other like wtf how are they skipping so fucking fast.
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>>116368
Did you not have to skip rounds and then do press-ups/squats/situ-ps/jump-ups/squat-thrusts etc in between?
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>>116345
Thank you and yes I can't get that lead leg very high up on the bag. I really want to try out a gym as soon as possible to get any bad habits corrected but it feels intimidating as I have basically no experience with any training except lifting (at a relaxed pace) for a few years.
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>>116393
>it feels intimidating as I have basically no experience with any training except lifting (at a relaxed pace) for a few years.
whole point of a gym is to learn man nobody expects you to show up and know what you're doing already
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>>116376
No, the class was entirely technique drills. Not sure if it's like that all the time or if they change up formats, but with it being so short, I'm guessing that's the normal format.
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>>116420
Oh, the ones I've been to locally always seem to do 1:15 or 1:30, with the first 15 being hellish gruelling 'warm up'. Also there's usually a 'cool down' which is basically the same thing but not as long. Don't ask me how this can both warm and cool, it's beyond me.
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>>116428
Gotta confuse the muscle bro
We only had the warmup, no cooldown. It was some jogging (half of it with arms up for some reason), side-to-sides, ab crawls, and lunges. Pretty straightforward.
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>>116431
I did go to one for a while that did running around the room and having exercises shouted out at some unknown interval and we'd stop and do it, probably 25 of it I think, then carry on. It's motivation to do them quick so you weren't in the way of the runners but honestly I prefer the skipping and sets in between. That was either 25, 40 or 50 reps depending on your level (25 for me haha), three each time, so usually press-ups, sit-ups, squats after the first skip, then jump-ups, squat thrusts (these always make my shirt come off lol), something else etc.
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I understand why conditioning classes are necessary for people getting ready to fight, but I really hate when a school doesn't specify the types of classes on the timesheet. If I wanted to do cardio-kickboxing I'd go to a cardio-kickboxing place. I still attend them for fun, but I've seen beginners leave because of instructors just saying "oh, today we're just going to do conditioning" one too many times. It's not really that fun and if you're not used to it you feel awful and embarrassed.
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>>116454
No these weren't conditioning classes, it was just a warm up for the first quarter of an hour every session that happens to condition you quite a bit. After that it was the usual padwork/light sparring and whatnot.
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>>110757
Well to give you an update, things have been getting a quite better for me now since then. can't say that I've lost much weight, but my cardio has improved.
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Signed up a week ago, done 5 classes, sparred for the first time yesterday.

How the fuck do you see anything with your guard up? I eat all the kicks since I can't see them coming. Punches I can barely block them, somehow.

Loving the sport so far
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>been meaning to start muy thai since January
>pussy out every time since scared of fighting

Any tips on how to man the fuck up?
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>>116511
For now your coach probably just wants you to learn to keep your high guard up, but as you get more experienced, your guard will loosen up and become more active and effective. When you're out of punching range, don't let your hands down, keep them close to your face, but let it loosen up a bit so you can see. You really only want a tight, static guard when someone is unloading on you with punches in the pocket. But as I said it's more important you learn to keep your hands up and your elbows tight than it is for you to see. Stay heavy on your back foot and light on your front foot when you enter kicking range, so you're always ready to lift and turn your front leg to check leg and body kicks. Make sure you're not looking at your opponents face, but at their chest/solar plexus, so you can read strikes coming from both their hands and hips/legs.

>>116513
Just go. Go right now, or today. If you have any friends who are interested, make a date with them. It's going to be awkward for a bit, but as you get to know people it will become fun and something to look forward to, not fear.

You have nothing to be afraid of, you're not going to get hurt. People don't actually fight each other in class. Nobody is going to spar hard with you while you're still so brand new. If you're afraid of looking bad, well, you're going to and there's nothing you can do about it, but be assured nobody will judge you for it. It takes a long time to start looking sharp, but as long as you keep going you'll get there. You might not even end up liking it.
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Muay Thai has no footwork
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>>116513
You don't have to fight if you don't want to. A gym with decent people won't force you in that direction.
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Went to one "purer" Muay Thai place last week for a trial class, just got back from another at a more generalized MMA place's Muay Thai class, and honestly I had more fun at the MMA place. The MMA place also give a week long trial, as well as access to other boxing/karate/BJJ classes throughout the week. I think the technique training would be better at the pure place but I doubt it would matter if I'm not enjoying myself as much. Unless the pure place completely outclasses the MMA gym price wise I'll probably become a "kickboxer" rather than a true nak Muay
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I want to start doing this, is it common to train with headgear and mouthpiece?
I'm afraid of losing teeth or something like cauliflower ear.
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>>116924
i mentioned to someone else before, if you like mma more do mma. mma is cool. and you'll still learn how to strike (and more), you just won't be learning muay thai. more opportunities with mma and it's more popular anyways. i just like muay thai more personally. i love grappling too but muay thai is where my heart is. combat sports are still just sports at the end of the day, do whatever is more fun and interesting to you.
>>116979
yes. mouthguard is required at any decent gym and nobody will give you shit for using headgear. some gyms require beginners to use headgear, even. personally i always wear my mouthguard for everything, even for grappling. i chipped my rightmost incisor one time and it made me look like a crackhead. always wear your mouthguard, no matter whether other people say you don't need it or not. at least that's my rule. some people say they can't breath well with one in but i'd rather just get used to the breathing than chip more teeth. you have to wear one in a fight anyways.
as far as cauliflower ear, you usually don't get it from striking but it's not unheard of if you get hit in the ears enough. i wouldn't worry about it though, by the time you're sparring enough to get it you'll already know what to do to prevent it.
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>>116991
I train at an mma gym about 12 hours a week, 9 striking, 3 grappling. I would like to do mma eventually but my first few fights will be in kickboxing. My very first fight will be next summer. Do you think I should go to the muay thai gym near me instead? I know two guys who cross train at my gym and the thai gym and they're amazing strikers.

I'm not really sure yet if my fight is going to be kb or mt rules yet.
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>>107758
Hi guys
I just wanted to tell you that today was the first time I kicked the shit out of a heavy bag and I can not believe how relaxed I feel right now.
This is therapeutic and I didn't know it.
I can't believe it!
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>>117173
Same anon here, I forgot to tell you that right now I feel more confident too! It seems like it gradually will increase my confidence.
What do you think?
Please tell me your opinion I really want to know
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>>117173
Same here. Never did any sports of any kind, realized I needed a way to get in better shape and find an outlet for frustrations. I started kicking and punching two week ago, following videos on muay thai techniques and I've been at it daily since then. My legs ache but apart from that it's really fun.
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Love this lil lanklet like you wouldn't believe. I wish there was more footage of his fights.
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Why do so many Muay Thai 'gyms' feel so gimmicky and are just cash grabs from retards?
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any shopping experiences with muaythaiexport or thaiboxingfightgear sites? Are they legit?
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Just went for my first training session last night. I had to duck outside for a moment to throw up about 20-30 minutes before the end of the workout, then went back inside to finish.
It's really highlighted how woefully out of shape I am, and it's given me a greater respect for what you guys do. I'm going back next week to do more.
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>>118424
wait what did they have you do??
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>>118449
It was pretty standard stuff: skpping, stretches, punch and kick drills on the thai pads, calisthenics, defensive drills, basic movement.
It was tough for someone who hasn't trained that hard in years, but I don't think it was what they had me do that set me off. I think at one point I just drank a little too much water and my body wanted to get rid of some of it to continue moving. I felt fine after I spewed.
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im thinking about joining a bjj class soon and your comment worried me for a sec. Sounds like normal stuff but I can see how it can be tough when others are around you, not trying to look incompetent you know...
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>>118458
It's okay, I went in already knowing full well that I'm in terrible shape and it was going to be hard. I just need to better regulate how much water I drink next time so I don't have a repeat.
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Complete beginner here, I was told to get 10oz gloves. I know next to nothing about these things, any pointers?
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>>118523
Then ask for 10oz gloves. Watch some YouTube vids.
But what kind of retards told a complete noob to use 10oz. I for sure would not want to spar with you
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>>118648
It was my coach, well respected local champion, but still competing and younger, so you could make the argument that he hasn't had much experience coaching. Regardless I won't question his judgment.
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>>118662
at least ask him what's the 10oz pair for and why not 16?
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1. How do you find a Muai Thai gym? Is it reasonable to find one dedicated to that or do you usually need to practice it at a gym that teaches multiple styles? how far is it normal to drive there? I want something close by so I can go all out and have energy to get home.

2. what are some basic drills I can practice at home as a beginner for conditioning and muscle memory?
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>>115265
Mass repliers get the rope
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I have pulled/strained my groin in the past and never paid much mind to it. Just strained my groin practicing vertical head kick.
Google told me it apparently takes at least 2 weeks to recover.
fml
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Where’s OP I miss his webm.
Also just sparred with this guy at my weightlifting gym. Dude is 80kg while I’m 63kg.
We were messing around and he looked hurt after eating one teep so I dialed down. He just kept catching my slow and light teep then tried to sweep. One time he just yanked my leg with unexpected force and had me fall flat on my back. So I just got up and started blasting his leg 7-8 times full force that round. Fucking prick.
If it were another day I would have been jolly and continued as usual. Not today though, I’m having my annual mood swing episode where I get irate and short fused and neurotic. Would advise against training in shit mood
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>>117209
> I've been at it daily since then
Thats great anon!
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>>107758
I'm gonna be living in Thailand for quite some time, if I join one of those muay Thai schools in one of the more touristy areas, how big are the chances that it's gonna be a mcdojo for farangs?
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>>120506
ask about their athletes, their credit and records
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>>119572
what ended up happening
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>>119311
big deal
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>>108770
I live in Mexico, where my gym is walking distance, 9 sessions a week, plus full gym access (though usually packed to the gills with a people who do NOT rerack) for 22 dollars. It's good.
>>108824
Punch bareknuckle, do knuckle pushups (going from 35 push ups to barely 10 on my knuckles was humbling), or just wrap better.
>>109406
I'm jealous. I've been holding off on getting these because I felt like it was too poser lol. I did buy badass gloves and shinpads though. How do you like them over regular shorts?
>>110754
The big dudes at my gym are my favorite. I can kick em harder, they're slower so they're fun to turn around, and they tend to be waaaaay more chill than the skinnier dudes.
You're in the right place, honestly.
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>>122229
Lmao whoops just realized how old these posts were. Been browsing /fit/ for too long, I'd forgotten what it was like here.
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>>108054
roundhouse kicks are a waste of energy. Just learn how to teep and you've learned the only useful kick in all of martial arts.
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I quit muay thai due to fear of brain damage a year ago, and have been focused on submission wrestling ever since. I kinda wanna make a comeback. Would it be possible to develop an evasive style and try to avoid incurring brain damage that way? I don't want to be just a hobbyist, I want to train 4-5x a week and maybe compete once or twice. What am I looking at?
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>>120484
Thanks dude, I've been at it ever since I wrote that. I'm finding more and more of a rythm when I hit the bag now and I've located a muay thai gym close to where I live that I'm gonna check out. It's happening bros.
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>>122335
Yeah, you definitely can focus on that. Your style would need to incorporate more kicks than average to maintain distance, and maybe even more clinch work too to tie up the arms in close range.
I have a theory that the things we fear are the things we create. So just know that heads do get hit, it doesn't necessarily mean much, and most people are fine. Don't stress out about it or you'll ruin your experience of it.
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>>119572
>Where’s OP I miss his webm.
been real busy with irl. not a lot of free time lately. good to see other people posting though
>>122335
kind of. getting hit is just part of the sport. the goal for everyone is to hit and not get hit, it depends on how good you are at that. there are plenty of people with evasive styles. in muay thai teeps will be your best friend. teeps to the thigh are underrated and very annoying. mixing it up and frustrating your opponent is your goal, in order to evade your opponent you have to avoid being predictable and avoid letting your opponent establish their rhythm. teeps are a good way to disrupt rhythm, make distance and create openings. this kind of style takes lots of practice and IQ though. you have to have a lot of awareness
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>>107835
I am starting cheering for the blue, he was a good starting but at the middle momment parts of video, i was seen the blue lose, he took a lot of punches and attacks without defense, he was taking a lot of punches and not defending, he starts getting punched with no reason, i figured a comeback yet, but then i didn't believe he could do anything anymore
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>>108054
Assuming you're learning the normal southpaw left-leg roundhouse:
1. make sure you have hip flexibility
2. weight on your toes, not heels. Right foot pivots clockwise twice. First turn it sideways to initiate the kick, then let it pivot naturally (heel towards target) during the kick
3. try to throw the left leg using everything other than the left leg. Use your arms and torso and hip, keep left leg semi-limp and feel how it responds.
4. make sure torso and shoulders follow the rotation of the hips, or else you're actively going against the kick. The whole body is part of it.
5. If you're starting "get it", then get more active with your left leg by throwing it chambered and extending it as you're hitting the target for much more force

Hope some of this helps.
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>>123204
>then let it pivot naturally (heel towards target) during the kick
actually on second thought don't just let it pivot. Twist that heal towards the target
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So I've been doing bjj for a few years and thaiboxing I did for a few years before switching to bjj. went to mma practice the other day for the first time and I walked away with the notion "i gotta learn this shit". Should I go back to thaiboxing and train that a few times a week along with bjj and then after my striking is at a sufficient level go to mma practice, or go with bjj & mma, if my goal is to be a somewhat complete martial artist? what do u guys think, how does muay thai pair with mma?
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>>123272
Absolutely. Mauy Thai is fucking awesome. The clinch game you learn with it (the bread and butter of MT, what separates it from kickboxing) works so good with bjj, as well.
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>>112619
I think it's because they get knock out results even with poor technique, so they just never fix it because they don't see a problem.
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The thing happened, it always seemed like a made up /pol/ story- a trans-man joined my MT gym. This person is 5kg and 5 inches taller than me, has been training professionally for however long. Very technical and very strong.
I feel bad for the women in this local circuit.
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>>107758
These little Thai motherfuckers are among the toughest people on the planet.
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>>124194
trans-man = woman to man
trans-woman = man to woman
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After properly (i.e at a gym) training for a month and however long kicking the heavybag at weightlifting gym before that, my coach thinks I'm good enough to enter a kickboxing competition.
Second day with the fighter class and i sparred with a guy with about 5 inches reach advantage on me and boy did I get lit up.
Also I kicked his elbow with my instep and will be limping for the next few days
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>>124665
Sounds like they threw you in a bit early, but all for the best. What did you learn?
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>>124729
I drop my guard on the jab, also shouldn't have tried to double jab entry someone with better reach. I'm trying to find the uncomfortable range to be in to let hands fly. I found that the spinning back (hammer)fist is a nice counter to people circling out of my lead foot. Gotta be careful though, it hits pretty hard but meh he clipped my hard plenty times so I consider that courtesy.
I think I'd kick higher targeting the arms next time.
The front teep is not my friend I guess.
Coach thinks I should just spar hard to get better but I think I'd ask for eyesight drills and hand defense drills too.
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>>125019
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love me a good thigh teep
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>>125019
That was pretty shitty at 17 seconds wasn't it, or am I missing something? The way he doesn't even conclude the coundtdown from the ref and just suddenly attacks his waiting opponent, after having his ass spared from some heavy kicking.

Is this considered okay?
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>>125020
I love it when the arrogants get what they asked for.
>come on hit me harder
>falls uncontrollably to the floor
what was the hit that brought him down specifically, though? Seemed like a shot to the heart.
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>>125097
he was just kicked in the head pretty good. he probably wasn't thinking very clearly, all he knew was that the ref was counting and he needed to get back into the fight lol. he probably knew the count was close so he said fuck the ref and sprinted back into the fight so he couldn't get TKO'd. rambaa was a crazy guy.
>>125099
when i watched the fight i thought it was a liver shot but watching it back i think he hit him in the solar plexus. probably knocked the wind out of him and he couldn't breathe
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>>125110
>he was just kicked in the head pretty good. he probably wasn't thinking very clearly, all he knew was that the ref was counting and he needed to get back into the fight lol. he probably knew the count was close so he said fuck the ref and sprinted back into the fight so he couldn't get TKO'd. rambaa was a crazy guy.
That doesn't explain why the ref didn't try to stop him from acting crazy.


>when i watched the fight i thought it was a liver shot but watching it back i think he hit him in the solar plexus. probably knocked the wind out of him and he couldn't breathe
He hits him above the solar plexus, you can see it if you pause at the 10 seconds frame. The question is if that last hit to the heart/chest was the decisive one, or if he fell down because of the combination of hits or a previous one. To me, it seemed like a pretty aggressive cardiac blast that fucked his senses over.
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>>125178
because it's a fight. the ref stops the fight if the guy can't fight anymore. he sprinted back into the fight which is him telling the ref he's good to go. why would he stop the fight if dude can still fight?

also this has to be the solar plexus. there's nothing else there that would drop somebody lol
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After 6 months of training I ran out of money so I joined a bjj/kickboxing hybrid that’s half the price of my old thai one for a month. It was more of a cardio kickboxing class but some “real” fighters were there. There was a dude who boxed for a few months, a girl who did muay thai for a few months, a fat guy in his mid 30s who trained striking various places here and there, a 6’7 black dude, and the head coach who was an 18 year old bjj blue belt with a background in karate.
I’m a small 130 5’7 asian fucker like the thai archtype cept im not thai and I kicked everybodys ass in sparring. 6 months of training at a genuine comp worthy place will do that. The only guys who gave me trouble was a mid 30’s retired MMA fighter with a thai base and a young military MMA fighter with a wrestling base, both are about the same weight at 180 and I still piece them up more than they do me.
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>>125288
however the bjj is legit and I do want to enter the octagon so I do need grappling, but I made money back from my new job and I’m loyal to my old gym. The coach is struggling so he tries to make me stay, feel guilty but muay thai is more real, gotta put myself first.
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>>125206
>get punched in the heart
>this has to be the solar plexus. there's nothing else there that would drop somebody lol

because it's a fight. the ref stops the fight if the guy can't fight anymore. he sprinted back into the fight which is him telling the ref he's good to go. why would he stop the fight if dude can still fight?
the ref decides pause and play. if a fucker sprint-sucker-punched you like that you would be crying tears of rage.

Not to brag about myself, but I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in BJJ, and I've been involved in numerous fights for my wife's boyfriend's honor, and I have broken over 300 confirmed arms. I am trained in sucker punching innocent people who look at my wife's son sideways, and I'm the top shit-starter at my local bar. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Chrome extensions and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to an entire arsenal of blind autistic rage and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
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Veeraphol at his peak is just the perfect fighter to me. Power, speed, timing, IQ, he had everything and was just dangerous when he was on his game. could match anybody at any time. kicking, punching, even had a decent clinch game. so well rounded and threw everything with such conviction and confidence. massively underrated by fringe muay enjoyers. veeraphol deserves more love
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>>125288
Same build, I’m struggling with people with longer reach.
Also why are ONE fighters so big? Current bantamweight (65kg) kickboxing champion is 170cm height 171cm reach. I still have fat to spare at 63kg
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>>125110
man ramba is wild, he’s like the thai emanuel augustus. He’s also genuinely won a mma title in japan, a pioneer
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>>107758
>be 30yo boomer
>start bagwork for the first time
>first martial art I've picked up since 2014
>doing that downward punch with the head kick
>pull muscles in back
>feel pinched between left shoulder blade and left hip
been a couple days but I feel better now. What do I work on to not twist my fucking back up?
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>tell my coach during padwork that I'm exhausted
>just out of spite he asks for 10 one-twos and 8 roundhouse kicks
>I get angry and squeeze out all gas I have and kick the hardest I can
>we laugh afterwards

Fun stuff, I love Muay Thai
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>>125446
water cutting

https://tim.blog/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/

Professionals are always ~10kg heavier than their actual weight class limit
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>>126224
I mean they are actually big for their weightclass compared to other promotions. 65kg in kickboxing should get you near 180cm with water cut
>>126173
start slowly I guess, condition your body into it. Maybe start running more, stretch lightly before doing active stretching, even as a youngster I still do it to prevent injury.
>>126223
Had a very nice sparring partner today, we went light and took turns combo and counter. I literally get to taste the salt (my sweat went off his gloves into my mouth)
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pipa makes a good point that i've heard from other old nak muay through sylvie. people train with shin guards now, back in the day they didn't use headgear or shin guards or elbow pads. if you use shin guards you don't learn how to control your kicks, you don't know what it feels like to actually kick different parts of the leg and how much it hurts to hit the wrong parts or how much it hurts to fuck up your timing and kick an elbow instead of getting through to the body. without the gear to protect you, you're forced to feel everything and you learn you can't just launch full power all the time. there's a greater degree of fear because of the pain which leads to more finesse out of necessity. getting hit hurts and you should know it hurts so you can train to avoid it. headgear and shinguards make people spar harder which accomplishes less, it's not actually closer to a fight to spar harder because in a real fight it'd hurt way more.



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