What if the reason our ancestors became smart and intelligent is because they consumed magic mushrooms that imbued their brain with higher cognitive function? All of our culture and society would literally be the product of our ancestry being stonedYou are a drugged monkey, anon
>>35940272I don't do drugs and I'm not a monkey.
Intelligence is of the things we know, the most divine. Aristotle (metaphysics)Op must be a disgusting atheist, a jew, or a hecking science lover, tranny fuck. God didn't give us the intelligence to be as limited as op
>>35940272So if current humans eat high fructose corn syrup exclusively what will we evolve into next
Psychedelics restore neuroplasticity. The reason most people are in such desperate need of this in the modern day is because we have thrown ourselves utterly into the notion that reality is objective and quantifiable.But yes, if monke takes them, it does the same thing: form new neural connections.OP's theory is plausible and there's no shame in it if it's true.>>35940382You conveniently and suspiciously omit Christianity.
>>35940435>You conveniently and suspiciously omit Christianity.God's existence is not dependant on man made cults. Christ didn't teach to "be christian". That's something people made later.
>>35940382the only ape here is you
Fucking drug addicts. Good for nothing
>>35940658cope about it, evolution is very real and the stoned ape theory has been deemed possible several times by the scientific community
Old news dude. Terrence McKenna was taking about this 40yrs ago
>>35940435>The reason most people are in such desperate need of this in the modern day is because we have thrown ourselves utterly into the notion that reality is objective and quantifiable.Hit the nail on the fucking head.
>>35940272Lame. Would've happened to foxes too since they seek and eat a shitton of magic mushrooms.
>>35940272Massive stoner cope. Throwing rocks and spears at animals while hunting takes immense processing power which is likely why we developed such intelligence.
>this thread again>junkie ego obsessed with drugs to the point that he thinks all society came from drugs I hate junkies
>>35940665What community? Buncha compartmentalized idiots of the world. The muh science people have gone back on what gender is since the jewish media started prooagandizing their tranny shit just a few years ago. Fuck them
>>35940646Go smoke on the mountain and bang your drum you stupid hippie
>>35940272the left thing is an accurate representation of what your average poster on this board look like
>>35940272Dunno. But I have noticed most scientists and intelligent people keep an open mind about psychedelics and think/understand there's a lot more to the story of these molecules. Keen to see what the new AI brain recorder sees when tested on someone tripping.This topic also seems to attract the attention of people who seem super butthurt about something that they shouldn't have a strong opinion on. For one they haven't taken it, and two they aren't read up on the subject. They've been a successful subject of Nixon propaganda.Dismissing the effects of these substances is also dismissing the effects of the substances that build your entire perception. It's reductionist and a sad cope.
>>35940412“Fat sack of shit that can’t create anything and can only steal and copy others, not an original thought in their heads. The 3rd temple is the human body not some bullshit place built upon human usury enslavement, fraudulent contracting and other horrible dregs.”
>>35940879its the same as thinking calculators are gods gift to humanity cause you're too retarded to add two and two as an /x/ user, if this is your leaning, it is your responsibility to learn to achieve ANY mental state you want om command
>>35940658BAAAASEEEED. Kill druggies.
Men gained access to consciousness through fire, retard. That enabled us to do the leap and not have our body constantly trying to get resources.This is why Prometheus was so important .
It's a fun story, but just that, a story.
>>35940272>what if But they didn't. It's a stupid and baseless theory pushed by druggos with a fried brain.
Holy fuck /x/I'm an idiot.I listen to paranormal /x/-related podcasts a lot and don't sit down to read things often. I like listening while I drive or work, etc. For YEARS I thought it was "Stone Tape Theory." Like, an ancient civilization recorded their secrets onto some sort of stone tape and that is how, somehow, sentience was implanted onto mankind. Fuck, you're telling me its been "Stoned Ape" all along? Maybe I am just a chimp
>>35942917This is bait right?
>>35940879I took drugs. I was a stoner, ate acid a few times. Dmt a couple times. Ayahuasca once.After you get a real breakthrough drugs never hit the same spot. Reach the same high.I'm happier now that i'm done with the shit. Better without those kinds of people. Actually i much rather hang with the ghetto lowlife wanna have a good time crowd, than those fucking enlightened hippies maaaanI've never seen anyone make advancement in spirituality through drugs... who didn't quit after. Everyone who stays is a fucking moron. And i can tell because i see it. That's why retards like op and any drug apologist and theoric that, it will evolve your brain maaan, shouldn't be given a platform to push this shit into the ignorant and young.Face it. If drugs advanced intelligence or spirituality, the world would be FULL. But you hang out with stoners and see how they evolve, maaan
>>35940272Idk man, amanita muscaria is just like being mid heavy detox.. fever like dreams where you can't move. One time god let me see into bound soul as i myself at the time was unbound.. i got to see the lifes of like 50 ppl, but from inside their eyes.. picture vr, but someone else is controling the characters eyes and hands, where you can feel their thoughts but not clearly "see" what's going on inside..And the last time i was back to being dead, like the time i fell into a coma- i was floating in the abyss, falling into what can only be described as the event horizon, my body was not there, yet devils and daemons where clawing at my flesh, like a fall trough an infinite dark tube, deep under cold water, where a tornado of abhorring creatures circled me as i fell closer to something, something that felt like less... this is my death, this is why im afraid to try and kms again.
>>35940272Then where is the fungi that coevolved with us, and it wouldn’t be psilocybin
>>35940272this was cooler when weed was illegal now no one would care plus tons of people are on big pharma drugs so its not exactly a revelation to see culture is largely a doped up escape matrix
>>35940272Supposedly the fruit of knowledge was the mushroom.
>>35943199Of knowledge of good and evil.It was the trap of duality. God warned us not to fall for it...
then why dont you smoke mushrooms and evolve? and gain the ability to do whatever future humans will be able to do
>>35940343>no drugs (smug "Hmph!")Are you sure about that? No caffeine? No nicotine, theobromides, SUGAR?Damn, you must be seriously boring.
>>35943084This. Why are all psychedelic users either unemployed or working minimum wage jobs? Because it's a dead end.People will go "but muh tech startup CEOs who microdose!", well yeah, they treat it like they would adderal, and their entire purpose of their goals are to rip off investors and make themselves rich.
>>35942917Your theory is also true, but it's set in the future
>>35940272Our ancestors are not smart nor intelligent. They are faggots that obey and dont kill themselves and they hate philosophy and art and drink cheap soda and have weak health.
>>35943084You make some good points, but I didn't have available to me in the 80s a means of understanding the impact of cultural overlay. Doing acid and mushrooms actually did get me some distance past the built-in limitations of American suburban culture. I believe that with even a little bit of guidance, they could do that for most people. That would be a fivefold increase in the quality of consciousness for your average burger. THAT is why psychedelics were made illegal.That's not to diminish your point that I take as, clinging to the crutches makes it impossible to walk.It's all about the breakthrough experiences. Once you've had those, it's probably better to move on and apply what you've learned.
>>35940272How would this work? If someone gained higher functioning because of a hallucinogen, that wouldn't get passed on their offspring.
>>35944782it's possible that sentience develops in (for example) 1% of the population under normal circumstances, but would develop in 10% if they all tried mushrooms
>>35944377>admits everyone's on drugs>thinks the one guy that wouldn't be is boringGo back.
>>35940272The Stoned Ape of Thoth theory
>>35940272>>35943196>this was cooler when weed was illegalTo further iterate on this, what if they’re attempting to legalise weed/psychedelics so people have full psychotic breaks, fuck their souls up, and end up as empty vessels ripe for possession? Make sense since all the new. i’d is sprayed down with PGP and so potent it turns you into a space cadet after 1-2 hits.
>>35943084I think this is just because you're poor so you only know other poor people. All the junkies I know are successful despite their drug use. The most hardworking people I know abuse drugs every day.
>>35940435 While true, psychs aren’t needed to restore neuroplasticity. One could simply pick up the the hobby of reading books.
>>35945553>The most hardworking people I know abuse drugs every daybecause they need to work hard to support their habit, duh
fire and cooked meat is why we are smart.
>>35946760This is the generally accepted belief. Reduced need for body metabolism too break down meat, more energy for the body too dedicate other systems.However the truth behind psychedelic's is they almost certainly are the inspiration for religious and philosophical thinking.
>>35946760You're still a stoned ape tho
>>35940272>druggie comes up with druggie ideas while on drugs and makes a thread
>wild conjecture>retard scientist: "hrm yes it's plausible that could happen">retard retard: "science says it's very likely this is true!"
>>35940272‘Great apes’ are literal humans inside of fursuits.
>>35940272Interesting concept but that would mean that other animals should have followed that evolutionary trajectory as well. Unless you're arguing for a combination of natural selection and mushroom usage which could be plausible. What's more likely is apes were able to harness fire due to having opposable thumbs which lead them off through natural selection more efficient ways of hunting prey, which was exacerbated by increasing intelligence. Could this have been assisted by psychedelics? Maybe. Most likely not but it's not impossible.
>>35940736Who is to say it didn't? Foxes are a mischievous and intelligent species in most myths and old literature. They just embraced the truth, unlike humans.
>>35948740Literally what you said. Only retarded druggies believe in stoned ape theory full stop. Ankther big factor after fire is creating tools, domesticating animals, and farming
>>35949206you stoned ape
>>35940382God didn't give you intelligence Christfag, God gave kids cancer and punishes them with side effects of STDs that their mother had before birthing them. That explains what happened to your brain, because only someone suffering from that can be this fucking delusional.
>>35940272I like shrooms but this stoned ape theory sounds a lot like lamarckian evolution, which has been rejected for good reasons. Also the Amanita Muscaria in your picture effects the brain in a totally different way than Psilocybe, and has more in common with deliriants like Belladonna and Henbane than with psychedlics, and deliriants have a history of more extensive use than Psychedelics in European Paganism, although the Greeks did make a potion with the dangerous Ergot fungus, the precursor to LSD, which unfortunately has the side effect of causing gangrene. I'm growing Datura and Henbane myself on my apartment balcony, and will there is much power in and much to be learned from the divine madness they bring, no one would think they could radically increase the IQ of monkeys. Psychedelics can't do that either, but the "dude wooah we're all like the universe maan" effect they have makes it easy to see why some people would jump to that conclusion.