Semen retention is good for you. Save your seed, man.
>>34867667what have priests and hermits ever accomplished?
>>34867696May be priests are caught into a spiritual scam that allow interdimensional to consume their prana.Cant talk about hermits
>>34867696More than you.
>>34867707Adding to this.The Christ inside of us and that Jesus and its disciples are an allegory for the sun and constellation and the bible a book of alchemy.Priest impose a narrative completely different on the Bible. They are enemies of the Truth, because a book of alchemy they start to say os literal. Fucking knowledge keepers. A priest wont achieve shit because he works for evil and spreads lies, and probably believes lies too. Mainstream crhsitianity looks lile a scam and a distortion and mockery of the original intent of the Bible.For the Christ to live within you you have to retain your seed.
>>34867724did it for 100 days still felt like shit, in fact it felt like symptoms only became worse, i felt more impotent than before and my posture worsenedif it wouldnt take eternity to see results id do it
>>34867696More than you could ever possibly imagine
>>34867710>>34867745Why’s don’t you faggots answer the question instead of just typical cuck responses. What have they accomplished specifically except diddiling little kids?
>>34867667you just sit around thinking about a bunch of guys juicy semen all day?
>>34867707>>34867710>>34867745I'm not sure diddling children is some achievement...
>>34867667How do we replenish?
>>34867667Why the FUCK do I keep having nocturnal emissions? I don't have lewd thoughts during the day, I don't edge, and I only touch my weiner to pee, there's literally no reason this should be occurring with such frequency (once per week at least). It cannot be withdrawals either because it has been at least a year since I have had a serious porn/coomer problem. Why does this keep happening? Am I being targeted by a succubus/glowies? This is the only reason I can think of but I never remember any strange dreams, I just wake up with jizz in my pants. It literally happened again last night. It is seriously starting to feel like someone does not want me to achieve semen retention because they are afraid of my power level. I am pissed off. It is completely demoralizing to hear all these stories of people getting powers from semen retention but I can't make it past a full week without nocturnal emission. completely defeats the purpose of doing this if I am cumming frequently in my sleep. FUUUARK
>>34867696>>34867779>>34867796>>34867836glow
>>34867667sounds like priests are getting high off their semen.
>>34867879your body wants it. it self-regulates. don't mind it.
>>34867879Lilith wants that seed
>>34867667Buddy, your seed disappears and recycles itself. If your balls kept filling up they'd explode. I'd even go as far as to say that these OPs want everyone to be sexually pent up, the more I coom the more I feel at one with God.
>>34867696Priest are vital for a functional society.They keep the community together, there give us a shared worldview so we can understand eachother, they remind of us of God and what is Good, they support us in difficult times, we can bring our problems to them, confession is actually really powerful and good for the soul and mind. They give us hope in dark times. Do I need to go on?
>>34867667Just imagine thinking about choosing to do a thing and then suddenly waking up and drifting into a dream to be forced by extraterrestrials to ejaculated because of repressed anxiety about forced marriages .Just imagine.
>>34867667Is that even a real Nietzsche quote? Where is it from?
Remember anons. Edging to porn do damages you. It may not be as much as porn + jerking off + cooming, but it definitely damages you.
does anyone have any good articles\essays on the objetive medical dangers of gay sex?
>>34867710i accomplish more than anyone ever
>>34868294Even if it was, so what? Nietzsche wasn't a scientist or a naturalist. Everything in the quote is completely wrong.
>>34867667Every time I enter an SR thread, it's always shitted up with coomers/detractors and shills.That alone should give you an indicator that there's shit here that is more powerful than any other topic on the board
>>34867667prove it
why the fuck do I have a fetish for rich girls\upper class girls?where did this bullshit yuppie fetish come from? how do I erase it?
>>34869137or maybe that it's actually bullshit if everyone tells you tide pods are inedible that means they're actually good for you right?
>>34869175masturbation is hermaphroditical because it makes the man both Give and Receive
>>34869177that's the dumbest thing i've heard
>>34869175And exactly the same sort of whataboutism that you always expect from these posts as well.SR works.I wrote many posts in the past 2 threads, go and look em up in the archives. God bless y'all
>>34869187no,you must give me due heed for pointing (correctly) that it is women who Receive and it is men who Givewhom will be so foolish ,as to deny this?
Semen retention is a scam which does not workBut masturbation addiction is definitely bad and should be kept in check
>>34869220>a scamyes, because promoting SR on a peruvian airsoft forum is so profitable and the "scammers" become rich doing it
>>34869145You can try it yourself. You have objectively nothing to lose. However, men should also look into transmutation which gives semen retention a directed purpose.
>>34869220>Semen retention is a scamYou're totally right bro. Me n the homies be making bank off stealing the retained semen of men. Lmao, imagine posting on this board without the basic ability to think through your positions.
>>34869220Don't expose me senpai, I'm making bank on on charging free dollars to tell men to have sexual discipline
>>34869137Yeah I was thinking that last thread, it only confirms the importance of the subject.
>>34869175If it’s bullshit so many idiots wouldn’t go out of their way to get in here and seethe about 24/7, they’d find something else to do.
>>34869233>>34869355>>34869243>You guys getting paid for this shit?
>>34867667Life as a coomer is way worse then life as a retainer.As a coomer I was anxious around women, coworkers and people in general. I couldn't look them in the eye, and holding a conversation was difficult. I got stuck in my head alot, unsure of what to say, scared of being judged.As a retainer I become more social and driven. Talking to people becomes easier, and I get more outgoing. I carry myself with more dignity and self respect. Women respond to me very well, to the point where they subtly and not so subtly check me out.I take more responsibility for myself and my path in life, hold myself to a higher standard automatically.Sexual discipline brings with it many gifts, and wasting your seed brings with it many curses. It was and is a covenant between man and God for a reason.
>>34869415Yeah dude, I'm getting paid to encourage other men not to waste their vital energy on fucking porn. So profit, much lucrative.
>>34869137Yeap. Kinda scary desu. But also hopeful.If they fear it, then it must be good.
>>34869401>>34869545It's comical ain't it? No other thread on this board has as much antagonism as this practice. Yet this practice is directly experientially provable by basically any man who can discipline himself for as small amount of time as 2. WEEKS.2 WEEKS.Is all it takes for you, the reader, to understand that this isn't a meme.Are there some people who this won't work for? Theoretically yes, there are some people who take psychedelic drugs and have 0 effect because they are unable to metabolize certain molecules due to one reason or another. Nothing is ever truly 100%, but you won't know what it is for you until you try.>>34869423100%There are direct physical and metaphysical effects.Physically, your spine becomes more upright, you have more energy, you are quicker, sharper, more dominant in behavior (but never domineering, that's important).When it comes to women, I worry more now about not having women with husbands/boyfriends like me too much because I don't want to upset their relationship. You start to realize that as men we have innate sexual power, that a man is NATURALLY supposed to have, and a woman is supposed to use her appeal and beauty to try to "tease" a man out of it. The modern day roles are so reversed I can't even begin to unravel the cluster fuck.Emotionally, I can pick up the subconscious cues from women much quicker. I mean MUCH quicker. You know that thing where women do subtle shit that you're usually blind to? Yeah, when you stop cumming all the time you start to pay attention, because your mind isn't possessed by lust.But all of that pales in comparison to the real "benefit". Alignment with God/Higher Self/Universal mind. When you retain, you literally contain more of the God essence in you that is the creative force microcosm of the totality of Creation. You start to be able to affect your reality with vibrational output alone.And trust me.Nothing compares to the bliss and joy of that feeling.
>>34867667these dipshits think they're achieving transcendence because they can finally talk to women, no t realizing that it's because those saturnic demons can smell the juice in them and want to kill it, and eat it.
>>34870023>You start to realize that as men we have innate sexual power, that a man is NATURALLY supposed to have, and a woman is supposed to use her appeal and beauty to try to "tease" a man out of it. The modern day roles are so reversed I can't even begin to unravel the cluster fuck.Absolutely, in an energy system, energy always travel from the positive pole to the negative pole.Be it heat going out the window when its cold outside, electricity, or water finding its lowest point.The problem is when men drain themselves, they end up having less energy then women, and the whole energetic attraction system collapses. You can't lead and you don't inspire compliance as a result because you're ruining the whole dynamic between the genders energetically by masturbation.
Ok but what's the difference between masturbation and sexo. If I nut on a girl that must surely mean failure, right?
>>34867696Unironically they directly built the foundation of modern understanding of genetics
>>34867879Try sleeping on the left side of your body legs slightly bent also do frequent kegles.
>>34870131Generally speaking, try to retain when with a woman. Nothing in SR is against sex (except perhaps ascetic version of it /Brahmacharya). Stop fucking with intent to orgasm. There's a much better way to have sex and I promise you that when you achieve it, your woman will be cumming 10-20 times a session, and I'm not exaggerating this, and you will be so in control of your sexuality that the satisfaction of her orgasm will be enough for you to go on about your day. On an energetic scale it sorta goes from worst to best like this:Getting off on degenerate pornGetting off on sexual imageryGetting off on fantasyGetting off with a whore/prostituteTantric masturbation with orgasm (no fantasizing)Getting off with a normal woman (no particular affiliation, but not a whore etc, doesn't exchange tons of energy with other men)Tantric masturbation without an orgasm (essentially edging to drive your energy in your body without fantasizing/lust)Sex with a loving partnerAt this level, you're getting into high level stuff:Sex with a loving partner, only PIV ejaculation (no anal or oral ejaculation)Sex with a loving partner, no intent on ejaculationSex with a partner with whom you have a divine union (you'll know when you'll know) with multi-orgasmic exchangingSex with a divine partner without intent to orgasm at all, simply pure sexual exchangeSexual meditation. You are absolutely still, she is the chaos all around you (see pic related). I don't know anyone in our world who is at this level, but theoretically it is the sexual ideal. You are absolute Order, she is absolute Chaos. Divine expression of energies with almost no sexual undertones at all.
>>34870260(Cont)Pressed post by accident.These scales are not absolute, some energetic "philosophies" will disagree, it really depends on interpretation. If you ever studied the scale of consciousness (ala David R Hawkins or Frederick Dodson), they interpret different stages differently, but in the end it is the same thing, just interpreted differently. (pic related, it's the Hawkins model)The point being is that focus first on sexual discipline, all this other stuff will become apparent as you spend more time on it and understanding it in a "feeling" way, not conceptual.>>34870092I know you know, but for most women, they can't even to explain how "robbed" they feel of the experience of a man who is in touch with his sexual energy. All they get around are a bunch of lust ridden zombies who, even when successful, are still so oriented in the sexual, that they have no choice but to become sexual degens themselves.Women inherently want to follow men, but they can't, because they are able to manipulate a man through her sexuality.Think about how fucking miserable the average woman is. She wants someone who can tell her "No" due to his purpose, but instead she's surrounded by dorks who spend all their time and money trying to impress her with golden trinkets. When all you see is masculinity devoid of Love and Power, you of course succumb to it, because you're a woman who has a need to fit in. Don't worry about the "whores and bitches". When you become a retainer or rather a man who is sexually disciplined, the weed will weed itself out, and even if 99% of women are terrible matches for you, you'll start to resonate with the 1% that is, and that's all that you need. Statistics will no longer be important, as you will be able to select whom you want, and she will be the aid to your life, not a detractor.
>>34870260Yea I could do this when shooting herowin back in the early 2010s (before fent fucked it all up). I could fuck like a porn star and not cum for hours. I made my exgf at the time multi orgasm and she couldn't believe I didn't cum.
>>34870361Drug induced performance can demonstrate to you the power of your body through altered chemical means, no doubt, but personally, I prefer to not do it through substance abuse.I know you're not advocating for it, but the point here is that it can be achieved naturally, through mind alone.
>>34870140Correct
>>34867667Hawt.I masturbated to this concept.
>>34867667Can't I just eat cum to get the energy back?
>>34867667How do you deal with the cramps? I am trying, but on day 5 and my crotch and side areas hurt and feel tight quite a lot. I basically never retained throughout my life.
>>34870426>>34870140Oh yeah, I remember from like middle school science class.The whole pea experiment in his garden. Was it color, or amount of peas?
>>34869161porn imbeds fetishes, it's brainwashing
>>34867667
>>34867897Retard
>>34870260You seem wise, so I just have a question. What practices can I do to get on the right path. I currently relapse to imagination and fantasies here and there, what is the best way to destroy the lustful will to masturbate?
>>34870374Just like you need to warm up your body for athletic performance, you can warm up your body so you get used to high arousal states. Once you're used to them it's easier to have sex without accidentally ejaculating.
>>34871196Not him, but had the same issue that has been solved.You destroying lust is part of the problem.Accept the lust. Accept that you feel that way. Hold your attention on it without resistance. It will transmute the lust.
>>34870260How do you do tantric masturbation. I always need to imagine to get hard
>>34871196I got a vasectomy and I don't regret it.No need to redirect energy if I can't get their to begin with.
>>34871211Ok, I will try, thanks btw
>>34871219Sorry this isn't the cuck thread, that's in /b/random few doors down
>>34871228I see you still have an unhealthy attachment here.Learn to let go, anon.
>>34869423I can confirm that, especially the positive response from women. They even seem to respond more positively during phone calls, without even being near me. I just texted a girl today who I haven't heard from in a while and who doesn't reply regularly. She replied almost instantly and wants to call later to catch up.This is definitely real.
>>34869054Being gay for starters
>>34871228>Bragging about how he hasn't touched his dick in a few days and is begging for help to last a few days mire with mysic bullshit on an imageboard.>Not a cuckAnon, I...
>>34867897you literally obsess over other men's dicks and cum, you are as gay as fuck
>>34869054HIV has a higher percentage to spread if between anal sex between two Gay men. Also anal prolapse and hemroids. In fact half of all HIV cases in America are from men who identify as gay or Bi.https://www.verywellhealth.com/why-do-gay-men-have-an-increased-risk-of-hiv-3132782
philosophers are pure scam artistry especially satanist like neetzche
>>34871275>I just got more confidence by deluding myself that retaining works>Yeah must be the retainingPeople delude themselves to get better all the time but this is pathetic.
>>34871296Yeah cause you use your dick to have sex not stroke to pixels. Your ignorance proves you a cuck
>>34871329I didn't retain voluntarily, I just didn't fap because I was on a trip with friends for a few days, with almost no privacy.The difference when communicating with women is noticeable when you don't masturbate for a few days.
You can't fucking "retent" the semen. You will cum at night and after a while your testosterone levels plummet. It will not be absorbed into blood, you will have nocturnal emission. After having those, you will have lower semen generationYour blood doesnt "absorb" it, wtf
>>34867696Gotta give you props for going straight to the point at least. Regardless, the ultra smart people who keep improving the world are not and were not, porn addicts jerking it daily nor were they getting laid.
>>348678391. Walking and pushups2. Drink a lot of water3. Meditation, unironically, the increased relaxation/circulation will make more blood go to your balls4. Onions, raw eggs, 12 hours of sleep5. Eat more. You need food to make new cum so eat more if your balls are empty6. Heavy squats. You will even have a wet dream the night after you did them
>>34871395What if you don't have wet dreams? Say it takes 4 weeks for your balls to fill up. But someone doesn't cum or have wet dreams in 12 weeks. Where did the semen go? in your mouth? the balls keep creating new semen ALWAYS so where the fuck does it go, genius, if you don't cum it out? Into the blood, as power. Ojas, more specifically. Healing your nerves.
>>34871544>12 hours of sleepi thought Brahmacharis sleep like, 4 hours a night?or is that a retarded which Ive been mistakenly trying to take up?
>>34871566It stagnates, and withers in the balls. If you do not have wet dreams even when not ejaculating regularly I have bad news for you... that semen is dead
>>34867667I will give this a shot. I doubt it will do anything for me, considering I already ruined my body by fapping almost daily for 20 years at this point.
>>34871611They do but you gotta remember this: they eat very healthy and don't drink and of course NEVER cum. Do nofap for 2 weeks and you yourself will need fewer hours of sleep
>>34870260can the last item, the blue guy item, be used for procreation?SHOULDNT it be actively used for procreation? Maybe releasing the fertile seed while in full lotus create a super-gifted child?
>>34867707Before modern technology, society required great effort and sacrifice of individuals for the greater good. Want medical care? Go to the monastery. Want education, go to the monastery? Need a book, guess there aren't any libraries, go to the monastery. And before there were public schools there were Catholic schools. And before there were public hospitals, there were Catholic hospitals. Before the printing press, Monks hand copied books. Literally the foundation of modern society, every aspect of it was put in place by a monk or a priest.
>>34867667>nietzschedidn't this guy die a virgin
>>34871820he literally contracted syphilis
>>34871202True>>34871196You have to understand that Lust is not the enemy, your unconscious reaction to it is.Notice when the Lust takes over, you almost have a Stimulus => Response reaction on grabbing your cock?You are in that moment deliberately letting the energy carry you away as something tangible.Instead, realize that it is simply a "pointer", and the only reason why it points that way (i.e. to touch yourself) is because that's the way that that energy has been dispelled for literally every time you've ever encountered it for basically your entire life.Just accept that it is there, observe it, don't try to change it, don't identify with it, simply see it like you would see the clouds in the sky, and eventually it will dissipate.>>34871219Not how it works, and even though I know you came to shit up the thread, you still gave a valuable topic for discussion, so thank you.The topic at hand is Semen Retention, not Sperm Retention. Semen still gets ejaculated when you bust, and the time/energy/resources that your body spent creating the vehicle for the sperm to travel with is expelled, and as such, your body, prioritizing reproduction, diverts all its energy that it would otherwise spend on healing the body, physical and emotional, now directs it towards restoring this fluid. That's not to mention the myriad of other things happening in the body like the rise in prolactin, the reduction of androgen receptors, literally making you more "soft" for a potential cuddling session with a woman, which is nice in some forms, but also can debilitate you in others.I'm not even gonna touch on the metaphysical effects, but those are there too.>>34871228Try not to get angry at these posters, nobody who willingly comes to another thread to shit on something is in a good state of mind, allow him to write, and if you can spin it into positive, then do, if not, then let it go.
>>34871275100%>>34871326ok>>34871329Try it and you'll understand>>34871395Not true in the slightest.First of all, wet dreams only happen when you concentrate your daily thoughts on sexual nature, if you don't direct your mind towards it, it doesn't happen.>>34871634Your body has an infinite intelligence system that will recycle the nutrients from the semen into other ways. >>34871689This I don't know. From what I gather, you can intentionally orgasm in that state, and the child that is conceived will largely inherit a lot of the mental state that you've had in the moment of ejaculation. However I don't know, and haven't had the need to learn more on the topic. It is true though that how you feel during sex and the type of emotion that you have towards the woman has a lot to do with how the child will "grow"
>>34872033>>34872067literally no one asked.I'm not decifering that grovel.
>>34872108God bless you brother, may you find what it is you're looking for.
>>34867667my dick is literally not working anymore and i've lost any sexual desires that i had left....
Kill yourselves. >inb4 jewI dont care whether or not other people masturbate, What bothers me is that you are all liars
>>34872033>>34872067You have to understand that Lust is not the enemy, your unconscious reaction to it is.Notice when the Lust takes over, you almost have a Stimulus => Response reaction on grabbing your cock?So, just don't be a sperg and go into your pants as soon as you event the tiniest aroused?This is just self control, nothing mystical about it.You dont need to filter everything in life with whether you touched your genitals or not. That is why people are calling you guys obsessed.>>34871383For example actually credits the fact that he did not do it in 2 days and in this short amount of time somehow believes women magically detecting that he retained for 2 days.Most people would just attribute this to having more social interactions would make having more easier.Also, if a person mocks a persons beliefs here that are more ridiculous the the others in the tread you all bandwagon to their defence. The fact that you guys contradict each other repeatedly and somehow act like this is some objective coherent philosophy makes you look like a cult.Also, saying that someone is mean for pointing out the lack of evidence or just messing around in the thread while acting like you are superior and level headed while talking about "balls filling up" is not evidence.Just my two cents.
>>34872182>you are all liarsSadly, I think some of these guy actually believe all women are evil robots that can tell you haven't coomed in 3 days and must trick you into loving them to steal your essence.
>>34872033>Semen still gets ejaculated when you bust, and the time/energy/resources that your body spent creating the vehicle for the sperm to travel with is expelled, and as such, your body, prioritizing reproduction, diverts all its energy that it would otherwise spend on healing the bodySo trannies who remove all their reproductive system are partaking in this without knowing?
>>34872230Your evidence will materialize when you take the practice seriously, until then you are just mentally masturbating about how great you are at applying empiricism.And brother, if it helps you, then by all means, continue. Also I didn't call you mean, there's a lotta posters here, it just seems you're being contrarian for contrarian sake. There's plenty of other threads in the board. If you don't resonate with this, why stick around?>>34872267The hormonal cocktail of steroids is so utterly fucked for ts that thinking of any natural process to help/not help in the body is senseless.It's like asking if you wear helmet, are you going to be protected from a giant meteor that's falling on your head? You got bigger problems to worry about at that point.
>>34872435>There's plenty of other threads in the board. If you don't resonate with this, why stick around?You can't ask for privacy on the internet, you say everyone who is here that doesn't agree is naive but you expect this thread to be a hugbox?
>>34867667OP likes to retain semen (from other men) in his tummy and butthole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>34867696High-score on how many children they can molest while still being considered socially upstanding individuals
>>34871840source: i made it up
I just really enjoy the difference in confidence levels when retaining.The attention from women doesn't hurt either, but I must be vigilant to not fall into pride.
Haven't read the thread yet, but there was a thread about 10 days ago, if that anon who talked a bit about manifesting (which I'm already interested in) is here, can you recommend any books on retaining? specifically as it relates to manifesting but just in general works too.
>>34871820no he got in bad with a whore who gave him the bug.he rarely had sex too, apparently and ironically.
>>34872247>maybe if I say it like that people won't belive it anymore!
>>34872267I haven't read on the body's effect castration has on it, but if there are no balls, then I am pretty sure it doesn't create semen anymore? The body's fuel, as long as you got functioning balls, WILL go towards making new semen, and the only way to stop that is castration
>>34872247>Sadly, I think some of these guy actually believe all women are evil robots that can tell you haven't coomed in 3 days and must trick you into loving them to steal your essence.This statement isn't that far from the truth
>>34872230>ou have to understand that Lust is not the enemyIncorrect. Lust is in fact the enemy.
>>34871173>How do you deal with the cramps? I am trying, but on day 5 and my crotch and side areas hurt and feel tight quite a lot.This is complete bullshit
>>34873895Bullshit my ass. I have been waiting for someone to address it but everyone skipped over me. This happens whenever I try to go for more than a few days, but I want to have conviction this time. You might not get it, but at least someone else retaining has to understand what I am talking about.
>>34871738>literally the foundation of modern societythey seem to have done a disastrous job
>>34869137It's not just here but on other boards too. They get very hostile if you even mention the dreaded nofap. There aren't many threads being made and when they are the shills come out of the woodwork to call you gay or a religious fanatic, or an inkwell. It's an extremely touchy subject and threads never survive past a handful of angry posts.
>>34867696became saints for the good ones. Like miracles, visions, God-knowledge, deification and shit. You lack very much culture.
i masturbate 3x a day AMA
>>34873919I have no idea why glowniggers shill this topic so much, but trying to scare people into masturbating is a really shit tactic. Your sides aren't going to hurt if you stop masturbating.
>>34872539>you say everyone who is here that doesn't agree is naive but you expect this thread to be a hugbox?So why do you care in the first place? Tulpa threads annoy the fuck out of me, but not enough to actively try to shut down conversation on Tulpas. I just pass them by. What is it to you if people don't watch porn and jerk off 9 times a day? Why take it so personally? It's a sign of a pretty deranged mind if you cant just live and let live. If you like to wank, by all means, be a red-eyed coomer.
>>34874851>Tulpa threads annoy the fuck out of me, but not enough to actively try to shut down conversation on TulpasThis. All the succubus threads are total bullshit so I dont click on them
Getting close to 200 days.Was not easy but I am not disappointed, even though on some days I was close to giving it up, still on some days I just didn't understand anything about how humans are supposed to interact with each other.Overall though, I never felt better and never felt more in charge of my own life. still working on cutting out intrusive thoughts and sometimes I still get carried away a bit by lust when I see hot women, which is something that takes a lot of effort. But I feel like I'm finally catching up on things, even though I'm 10 years late, I feel like I'm finally getting a grip on life.
>>34874851You guys operate on so much preassumption.You take everything in black and white, that you think you are some stand against a world of coomers and you act like its only about not being coomers despite this whole mythology going on.>>What is it to you if people don't watch porn and jerk off 9 times a day?You just made another assumption, assuming that either I, or you if you don't specifically believe all that you do about retention will do.Calling me deranged is an extremely bad faith argument, anon.>not enough to actively try to shut down conversation on Tulpas.In these and the succubus threads, at least it doesnt go beyond the activities themselves and they don't bring it into real life.You guys are saying that ACTUAL PEOPLE and animals can tell that you are doing this and that is the only reason you are getting more attention. Also, you don't see people in these threads denying basic biology.Other people who don't retain and see better results than you should make it clear that this isn't the only way to make progress in life when all you claim to get from this are women actually looking in your direction or just not being depressed or a slob anymore.
>>34875458But animals and people can tell that you're on it. They don't know what it is, but they respond to you way differently.It really has to do with your energy.
>>34875458Other people and animals ARE acting differently.Your issue is that you're attempting (again for the millionth time) to view this practice/phenomenon through a biological/empirical perspective. For as long as you are relying on pre-conceived notions of what is and what can be, you are forever stuck in the same level of reference and perspective.You do not understand that until you start this practice you will not be able to see the evidence of what we speak about.You need to fundamentally make a quantum leap in how you interface with the world and reality. There are no rules. There no "facts". Everything is malleable. Once you start to realize how fluid the real world truly is, then you start to gather points of data from the newfound perspective and then, AND ONLY then will you realize what it is we're talking about.SR practices have been a staple in all major religions since the dawn of time. Of course the modern day interpretation of most of them is some dogmatic horseshit akin to "don't touch your willy or skydaddy will send you into a place of fire". I'm past that. Most people who engage in this practice are past that. This isn't what this is about. >>Other people who don't retain and see better results than you should make it clear that this isn't the only way to make progress in lifeWho said it's the only way to get progress? Do you go into every other thread on this forum and write "well akshually guizeee there's other ways to improve your life"? No? Then you arbitrarily selected this one because it's so simple that you can feel to be an expert on it just like every idiot thinks they can fight "when they see red" without actually gaining deeper understanding and knowledge.... through practice itself. Ultimately, I don't think you're here to learn, just to shit up the thread, but still, you provide valuable bouncing place for ideas and keeping up the thread, so for that I thank you.God bless you
>>34870260Wet dreams ruin my streak? How do i transmute the energy properly,and not fall back on lust?
>>34876236turn down the succubus in your dream. they will appear in physical next...GL
i've already been programmed to cum every day. you can't stop it just by telling me to. but you're probably just stirring the waters, as i can see by the amount of replies which i won't read.
I was never able to get far in this until now. Before, after a few days I began feeling way too much pressure to override my senses as horrifying monstrous entities that don't feel like they belong force themselves into my dreams or corrupt my thoughts during the day. This was a paralysing phenomena until I decided to get into some of the hardest rock genres I could find. Embarrassingly I'm only now realising that when my destructive addictions started as a kid from an abusive childhood I basically lost all interest in any type of rock music at the exact same time as it slowly dwindled away the next 2 years. But listening to fast distorted guitars and a person just screaming nonsense into my ears is like a demonic repellent. The satanic imagery is strengthening too because it turns something horrendous that I was afraid of into something higher, art, it loses its power. It was difficult to begin listening to this stuff initially because it almost felt like I had been brainwashed to dislike it or I unconsciously avoided it for some strange reason, it was also a painful type of healing like the music was ripping leeches that had been attached to my heart. I barely use internet forums anymore but came here to share this if it can help one other person.If you had something similar before any destructive addictions started try to revive it. Or it's worth trying out what I described. If I crave drinking or whatever I just turn on death metal. May sound cliche but this has been a godsend.
>>34875458It seems to me that you hate this nofap stuff because you couldn't do it. You tried and the lust for porn and masturbation just won so easily. Now you try to explain it away with over rationalizing, but deep down there is great fear: you are totally controlled by the lust and quick dopamine fix you get from cumming. So rather than admitting it you hide it and use it to fuel your hate. If only others would stop reminding your loss, then it all would be good, right?
>>34874839I'm not trying to scare people and I am not saying everyone hurts because they clearly don't, I'm just someone trying to do their best and seeking advice from anyone else who feels too tight for comfort down there.
How do you honestly overcome lust? Its been the hardest battle ever since I started this and I feel like it’s keeping me down.
>>34878570You don'tIt is energy, use it to fuel a creative process
>>34878570Observe it. Make it something concrete like a person who is hostile towards you. Maybe you need to experience its offerings and after that ask was it any good. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me -logic applies in it. When you know what it was you can move forward knowing better. Of course this applies to a situation you have been before countless of times and now change it by observing it like you would watch yourself outside like a movie where you are looking porn and masturbating. What is the outcome of that and what it is in itself, ponder those. Then next time the lust comes, you remember what it was. Do you consider it as a friend giving good for you? If you have any sense in you, you will see it as a no good piece of shit only taking from you using the lie of a fantasy. And after it has done its course there you are wiping your dick and feeling robbed. Closing the browsers and tossing the cum rags away. This is you this is your life. Getting your lifeforce drained who knows where and for what purpose, but not for your benefit.
>>34867667Remember you gain power by retaining your power
I have failed again
>>34867667True.
>>34878570Prayer and meditation. It's literally evil spirits and temptation. Temptation comes from the devil. People ignore the presence of temptation and pretend it isn't real. it's real and you have to account for it. Also, clean living. Avoid stimulants. Get some sleep. Don't look at porn. The people who tell you to edge are lying, the best way to defeat lust is avoid the objects of lust. Also, it's a process. Don't beat yourself up (pun intended) if you can't go a month without beating it. Set goals, small ones and build toward larger ones.
lots of negative entities working through posters here.bottom line,there is no reason to let semen out of your body other than when creating a new human being, which is a great responsibility that should be avoided. semen transforms itself into higher consciousness automatically when you don't release it. it may take several months for your nervous/soul system to stabilize if you have done it atleast once a week for multiple years.
>>34867879Read these:https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/es/rebooting-porn-use-faqs/what-about-wet-dreams-and-porn-dreams/spermatorrhea-resources/https://rebootremedy.github.io/
>>34876496Based.I never heard something like that.
>>34878570I try to imagine myself standing next to women and thats it. Literally practicing not sexualizing them lol
Jesus Christ is Lord, and I think masturbation and spilling your seed is sinful.However I Feel like, if I don't cum frequently, the blue balling just gets unbearable. But it is hard to just suffer because my wife is tired from sleepless nights with our infant,Am I just suppose to ACHE all day and night?Wake up with powerful and painful erections and have my prostate and balls feel punched in most of the day long?It makes me edgy, and angry when I do not cum. For years I would cum 4 or 5 times a day, some times more depending on boredom or energy. I was raised by agnostic/science believers who saw nothing wrong with the human body and encouraged masturbation at a young age. I've cut back significant and even more so after becoming a father, but I struggle ever day and I hate it.
>>34868105Perhaps, but they are servants of the demiurge.All spiritual progress has come from schizo prophets, and most of those were hermits at some point.
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>>34883747"spilling your seed" has absolutely nothing to do with wanking
>>34867667literally a meme made up by homos and women on reddits in 2011 as a joke meant to be a sexual thing>lol wouldn't it be funny if we convinced dudes to not jack off?>LOL yeah so we can watch them squirm as they become more and more horny can we make this a meme?In truth you are doing nothing other then making yourselves sexually frustrated and more susceptible to sexual circuitry manipulation, or in other words developing new fetishes, because your body will literally start imprinting it's sexual urges on more and more stuff until it is given some kind of release, also it's bad for your health in general
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>>34883835>Masturbation is not masturbationThe absolute state of coomers
>>34884169You whoreson "spilling seed" means wasting your thoughts and imaginations on negative images which get "planted" into the subconscious and end up getting manifested. Nothing to do with flesh and bood, tradwhoreson
>>34883841What in the fuck kind of ridiculous circular logic is this? Controlling your sexual desires is subordination to them? You are literally online trying to convince dudes to masturbate and you claim nofappers are the ones with fetishes?
>>34883841>literally a meme made up by homos and women on reddits in 2011 as a joke meant to be a sexual thingSauce or shut the fuck up
>>34884175I repeat>Masturbation is not masturbationLiterally the state of coomers. You have to redefine the term because you can't stop cooming and want to feel less guilty about subordination to your lust
>>34867667Don't believe you. I'm doing this because I don't want to jack off at my grandpa's house this weekend and it fucking hurts.
>>34869235>You have objectively nothing to lose.I jizz my pants when I talk to a cute girl and I haven't jacked off enough recently.
>>34884240This is patently false. Literally had a woman rub her tits on me yesterday and I was like nah, you are a whore. Having control of your sexuality is liberation. When you free yourself from lust, lust becomes less appealing and you start appreciating healthy, normal women and stop appreciating whores.
>>34884229>Don't believe you. I'm doing this because I don't want to jack off at my grandpa's house this weekendIf masturbation is such a normal part of life, why wouldn't you want to do it at your grandpa's house?
>>34884175DNA is alive, they are angelic and they perform the will of the Lord, to spill them into the dust of the Earth is a sin. > "spilling seed" means wasting your thoughtsThat's just like, your opinion man. Anything that is alive has DNA, yet we consider DNA a protein.
This thread in a nutshell
>>34884342Based and truth-pilled.
>>34884342Its hilarious how weak the arguments of pro-coomers are. Theyve got nothing
>>34883747>Am I just suppose to ACHE all day and night?>Wake up with powerful and painful erections and have my prostate and balls feel punched in most of the day long?This is such a stupid argument. No one has this problem. One month, zero ball pain. Stop making shit up.
>>34884668> No one has this problem.I have this problem you turbo faggot.>One month, zero ball pain.I bet you are some low T, manlet with no libido or drive.For over 20 years I have been either having sex or masturbating multiple times a day. And now I'm lucky if I get sex a few times a month. And I masturbate very infrequently because I believe it to be bad for my physical and spiritual health.So yes, I ache, and yes I wake up DAILY with a massive erection. Waking up with an erection in the morning is a sign of health, if you do not have this 9 out 10 mornings, then you have something wrong.Seriously.
>>34884847I recommend jumping out of bed and channeling your morning wood/desire into something creative
>>34884668This, your balls can only hurt if you're edging or watching porn without cooming. That's what blue balls are.
>>34885826> your balls can only hurt if you're edgingIt's amazing how much you random fucks on the internet feel free to speak knowingly about the pain another man feels.You and your the other chucklefuck are both wrong.Because my balls hurt.
>>34883818I think gnosticism is cope and heresy.Think about it, a God above the create God?What did lusifer really want? He wanted to become God, be above God.And here is a religion that says exactly that. Also, most Gnostisms is just hogde pogd spirituality where you place nothing higher then yourself and how you feel.Your own insight and experience is ment to have the final say. What if you're deluded? Then you're just lost.The meme was pretty funny though.
>>34883841>or in other words developing new fetishes, because your body will literally start imprinting it's sexual urges on more and more stuff until it is given some kind of releaseIn my experience, the opposit happens.Pornoography becomes less appealing and more repulsive actually.The connections between loving individuals comes back as the focus point, and I'm no longer willing to share myself sexually with people I don't have a deep connection with.Lusting after the body seems strange as people arnt separated into body parts used for my own pleasure.But hey, maybe that's just me and everyone who also practice sexual discipline as God intended.Tldr: You become more human and less animal.
>>34884267Whore magic is nothing else but manipulating men through lust.
>>34886218Have you been edging, fantasizing or watched porn?Blue balls is stagnant sexual energy. The energy should naturally travel up towards the head.
I've noticed this today:>I can kinda sit and observe lustThis is actually fun.>I can do the same thing while looking at mild naked pictures of ladies, preferably un-monetized stuff.This seems relatively harmless, fun and *contextually* helpful?>I can sorta "integrate" or "ground" my lust by observing/experiencing it, and this makes lust-fueled edging feel pale and crude.No harm in this, but what if I figure out a lust-free way of self-stimulation that is fun? Is that possible if there's no intent to ejaculate, or perhaps if there's no intent to orgasm altogether?It helped me to instate a "plateau" for myself by taking the Taoist suggestion to wank but to aim for at least retrograde ejaculation. This eliminated shame/guilt very fast and gave me a cleaner outlook on life, but the downside was that it took me a few months to figure out that I can observe lust after.So I suspect that it is only a partial intruction/technique, or it is just only partially effective intrinsically.
>>34886375To clarify one point, as soon as I got to the first observation it became obvious to me that I was responding to imagery of sexual acts between individuals with disgust.It seems intrinsically unhygienic to take on a role in the sexual relations between individuals, it's like you're consenting to something so oddly specific that it's really unwise to do it.So I don't include imagery that involves multiple people, period. I think that's also why I excluded monetized materials, that implicitly has the money of strangers involved in the making of the imagery.
>>34886253>I think gnosticism is cope and heresy.Gnosticism is critical theory for masons
>>34886253>I think gnosticism is cope and heresy.I'm not big into gnosticism, I use the term demiurge more liberally, sort of in a "curse of the law" kinda sense (Gal. 3:10-12). I suppose from the standpoint of the church, Gnosticism would certainly be considered heresy, but what if it's really just some sort of second intervention, a lifeline so to speak, that God throws to those who somehow "failed" out of Christianity for whatever reason? In many ways, it seems to be just a reframing of Christian teachings in a way that seems to make sense to people who somehow didn't "get" Christ, be it because of their own (or their parents') laziness, incompetent or corrupt pastors (hired shepherd syndrome, John 10:12) or what have you. In the little I know of it I certainly haven't found any "do what though wilt" kinda attitude in it as it usually the hallmark of actual satanism.But I admit I'm just someone who is poor is spirit and trying his best to come to God after having been abandoned by both my parents and the church, who did not do a good enough job in raising me.
>>34886218Look fuckface, your balls aren't going to explode in pain just because you stopped jerking off for a few days. Literally been a month and my nuts don't feel a thing. You are just some well-poisoning cunt spreading glownigger bullshit.
>>34867667I’ve done a 7 day water fast but I can’t fucking do SR for more then 2/3 days
>>34886768>Literally been a month and my nuts don't feel a thing.Can confirm. I'm in PB territory and this gravy train ain't slowin down. It just depends how badly you want it
>>34870260>Sexual meditation. You are absolutely still, she is the chaos all around you (see pic related). I don't know anyone in our world who is at this level, but theoretically it is the sexual ideal. You are absolute Order, she is absolute Chaos. Divine expression of energies with almost no sexual undertones at allI do this with my wife when I fuck her in the ass for an hour while choking her into unconsciousness>Tantric masturbationWhich tantra is this from?
>>34886964>I do this with my wife when I fuck her in the ass for an hour while choking her into unconsciousnessThis is totally normal and seems absolutely healthy.
>>34886218Visit a doctor then, I'm serious.
>>34871611if you know how to sleep properly than you only need 6 hours, any less is bullshitMost people should aim for 9
>>34887037A tree is judged by it's fruitI've had a wonderful and long lasting marriage so farMashallah
>>34867667I'll be honest, I have been practicing this for well over a decade and though it is true that there is increased vitality and libido, it takes a lot more than just not cumming for it to have any value. you're not just gonna become a god because you don't jerk off. if there is some philosopher's stone associated with semen retention, it is only part of a bigger picture/method.
>>34887117Lol. Wait until you see how this ends. Anal is a great way to invite demons into your life. I had that kind of sex life with my ex. This ends with you levitating and your wife overcome by demons. There's a reason why I respect the power of sex now and why I practice NoFap. Because I've seen where the opposite takes you. It's not a good place. Anal is the ultimate blasphemy to your life force And choking your wife out while fucking her in the ass is not going to end well Muslim bro. Some things you are just going to have to experience for yourself. When something like this happens, remember this conversation and you will at least be prepared to know how to respond. But you probably won't believe me until you experience it.
>>34883841>developing new fetishes, because your body will literally start imprinting it's sexual urges on more and more stuff until it is given some kind of releaseIt's literally the reverse, goy.
>>34867696Bruh, we need more warrior monks. Stop being a fking degenerate.
>>34884342Lmfao, 100%>>34884240That's because you're holding your semen as a trick to make women like you.You don't understand, that when you start taking SR seriously, it becomes less about holding your cum in and more about being a man who's in control of his sexual energy and consequently his destiny. When a gorgeous woman rolls around, you don't just start getting horny because she's there. You do it only with conscious intent if you intend to breed with her. Yes, your sexual discipline becomes so attuned that you don't even direct your sexual energy towards women unless you are doing it deliberately.
>>34884847I have erections every morning, I can literally get myself into full mast from 0 in approximately 30 seconds without even touching myself. And I don't stare at women at all. I literally don't give a shit even if the most bombastic booty in teh fucking universe is in front of me offering itself to me as tribute, if I don't direct my attention there, it doesn't go there. Your issue is that you're lusting, or engaging in behaviour that's lust oriented, and then not allowing that energy to flow. You're literally tricking your cock to be ready for sex, and then just pulling it back. That's what cause blue balls too by the way, it's not the actual sexual happening itself, if you're there to be conscious just to exchange sexual energy and not release, this won't happen. In the end, it's all about your mind bro, you decide if you're in charge of your cock, or it's something you have to put on a leash because you're afraid it's gonna run away on its own. It's like a dog in a sense, you can either assume responsibility for it and KNOW the dog won't do stupid shit, or you compensate with having a leash.
>>34886375>>34886422Ask yourself why you have the need to "stimulate yourself".To answer your question, is "yes", but I don't want to tell you "Yes and here are the ways", because the way you worded your post was from scarcity and not abundance. There's nothing wrong with feeling sexuality in your body, it is only an issue when you start to associate sexuality and ejaculation/orgasm as the same thing. Learn to channel this energy, instead of trying to come up with clever ways that you could trick yourself into being able to still sort of jerk off but not really kinda jerk off.In other words you feel like you're "losing out" on something by not engaging with this practice fully, but only as some weird "test" of your sexual discipline endurance. Switch that mental framework around brother, SR can open your 3rd eye, raise your Kundalini Serpent and just heal you by the biological powerhouse that it is by nature. You will literally start going to gym like 7 times a week, and your body will be pretty good at dealing with it, it's honestly remarkable how big of a fucking way it is to get in touch with your higher self, if you truly let it become your being = a man who's totally consciously directing his energy.Insane
>>34886964Honestly, I used to fuck women in the ass and derive sadistic pleasure from it and they used to enjoy it too, but what this>>34887393 comment does say something interest. I can see how anal sex is basically taboo because it's the inversion of energy flow. The part that makes it fun is that it's "wrong". And the fact that the woman has to experience pain at your pleasure (at least in the beginning, until she gets into it) is a bit of a demonic-overtone. I don't wanna get all preachy because in the end, we all create our own reality, I'm sure that there were things beside anal sex there going on that allowed those things to manifest, but I can also understand how anal sex perhaps might've been the expression of that demonic situationship. Chicken or the egg kinda thing. It all feeds into each other.I will keep it in mind though, next time I engage with a woman, I'm gonna see what actually happens in my mind when I reach for anal. Cuz it definitely doesn't feel good in terms of how tight it is, pussy feels way better. But it's also an egoistical thought. Personally for myself it was a thing where I wanted to fuck women in the ass so that I know that like if she leaves, I already fucked her in the ass, so in that sense I'll always "own" her. It's some dumb egoistical shit, legit mental illness. I realize now that I'm more in touch with myself, the experience I give women, even WITHOUT yet having sex, is like the most authentic shit they've ever felt. Some of them can't believe that like I'm real and not just acting. They start filming me mid date just having a regular conversation with other people, because everyone just listens to you when you're grounded. You can literally tell cops on the street to chill out when they try to get aggressive with you, and they'll chill out.Sounds a bit wild I know, but imagination is what reality is, and the only limit is your own thought.
>>34889104The idea of conquering women as opposed to connecting with them isnt healthy.I read in a book called "Talk to me" that it's a defence mechanism. "I have to defeat her, before she defeats me".The treat of being overcome and controlled by a woman induces fear.So when you then dominate and overcome her, you feel safe and powerful.The sadistic pleasure is pretty common, even though it is a distortion.
>>34869175its not so much the noticeable physiological effects as it is the triumph of great willpower over yourself. This is where a heightened sense of self may begin. Also, you can learn a lot from a man based on his attitude towards the subject. Defensive types always come off as low-t (man-women) reading their defeatist takes.
>>34874753on /fit/ nofap threads are posted quite frequently and it gets bombarded with people mocking it. its either coom addicts in denial or shills. probably both. you can see it on any thread that speaks about quitting something that is addicting
>>34889282That's a good point, I definitely don't want to hurt women anymore emotionally. But I do derive erotic pleasure from her pain to my pleasure and her submission to my dominance is sort of emphasized. And even though she fucking loves it, I know the love is because of how taken she feels, she feels the same even when I just hold her. Just says your energy makes me feel like everything is going to be amazing.
>>34871638the body can regrow damaged tissue and heal broken bones. im sure it can fix fucked up hormones and damage from addictions. i would know, im an alcoholic whose been clean for 5 years next month. the important part is to not keep doing what fucks you up in the first place giving the body time to heal
>>34867667>chad vermin who were able sleep to with hundreds of hot girls in their lives giving their perverted fantasies a free run now deceiving frustrated virgins into hating themselves for fappingIt's the same energy of that one thread anti-Buddha thread yesterday
>>34889712I often see this post and it always comes from someone who's in lack.A dude who thinks that smashing 300 sorostitutes is some sort of an achievement thinks that because he's never had an abundant access of pussy. He's never had that because he never had belief about himself or blames "incel" genetics. So then he comes onto these posts saying "lul chad didnt do SR and still smashed". Yeah, most chads also end up with those very same smashed up stacies who also got ran through by the same players of their same football team.Fucking girls isn't an achievement anon, it's being conscious enough with your sexual energy where you pick a woman based on the vibrational energy she outputs/receives, not based on how big her tits are. The funny caveat to this is that the high-vibrational women (or at least those who are present to that sort of energy) are generally speaking some of the most beautiful women around anyway, and it's a natural beauty I'm talking about, not 300 filters and 2 kg of botox.Your post is also ridden with envy used as evidence for "fraud" of SR. You hate the fact that "chad" didn't have to do this to get women and you feel owed something by the universe and feel that getting it any other way is "beneath you" because someone else got it "easier". Time to start taking responsibility for your life and your cock buddy, it's honestly very simple shit, just takes diligence, but the alternative is continuing the hate and shitposting like you just did there.God bless.
>>34889748This right here. Casual sex is meaningless and empty. It always left me with a feeling of 'Is this it?" the day after.Reducing sex to pleasurable sensation is leaving out the most enjoyable and important part.
>>34889748I'll take responsibility one day and kill as many of you bullies vermin as possible as a fucking revenge
>>34889748You fucking rats are and constantly brag about banging hot tradwhores and making children. You fucking lying whoreson I don't ever want to fuck prostitutes.It's MY birthright to get back at bullies
>>34889748And stop putting words in mouth fucking liar
>>34872665t. was raped in the ass as kid
How do I overcome my desire to actively get a wet dream?I dont DO anything to get them - but I yearn for them and their pleasures-Im 100% if I did SR with no wds, I would be a 0,001% man in one year
Anyone have experience and success with the Tibetan rites? I feel like the guy at the bottom of the painting rn, being absolutely violated by the monstrosity created by my mind. So I'm considering adopting spiritual practices like the rites, to abolish this demon
>>34891096the 5 rites are just to reverse agingthe 6th one is for celibates and is more secret, but the 5 are for anti aging
>>34891129Cool cool, So should I do the 5 plus the 6th or just the 6th one? because I'm not sure if it is an ascending order or not
>>34889014>Your issue is that you're lusting, That's not my issue. My wife lost her brother in a motorcycle accident shortly after our son was born in 2021, and our sex life has been utterly obliterated. >I do not "lust" after any woman but my wife. But she has been in a bad place since his death.>Before the child and loss, we would have sex twice before we got out of bed each morning. >Would consider my self to have a higher than average libido>found a woman who seemed just as eager as I was>married her>no longer felt I needed to masturbate, >no longer felt driven by my constant unfulfilled sexual urges. Life happens, things change. I agree being a coomer and a compulsive masturbator is a bad thing, but I am not lusting after cam girls, or porno stars, I am eager to have a normal sex life again with my wife, and now after such a long stent with out consistent sex or masturbation, when we DO have the chance to go at it, my stamina is all gone.
>>34867897pathetic
>>34869177lmao are u fucking cumming in ur ass or smth gayboi xd
>>34891096TFW after a few months of Pornhub & chill, a primordial fire demon shows up to whoop your ass with a skeleton stick
>>34891005You holding onto the anger from your youth is what's causing you pain, not the actual events themselves, but your interpretation of it.I never bullied anyone, I always stood up for those I think are weak, and I myself wasn't a "chad" growing up. I did learn, I went to gym, and eventually acquired such a belief system that even the "chads" would wonder how I acted out what I acted out. But PUA/rp shit can only take you so far. Notice I didn't say that its a lie. It isn't. You can do a myriad of psychological shit to women and have them want to fuck you through manipulation alone. Despite that, those were the most meaningless encounters I've had, and yeah it's college so who gives a fuck, but all I learned after was that it felt more empty and empty.And it brought me back down to this practice. I would much rather have sex with one chick that I resonate with and make her feel like she's my absolute property, than rub genitals with 50 random Stacey's. Trust me, it ain't the fun you think it is beyond the ego boost that you get.Having said that I can see you're in pain, and you're gonna have to realize that it was a pain of your own doing. We all choose our path in life, and denying this truth is what gives us discord. You chose your struggle because you knew tou could handle it and be better, your higher self has such faith for you that even as you sit here wishing evil upon the world, that love is always available, you just have to stop holding down your cork at the bottom of the bottle, and it will naturally float back up.Enacting "revenge" won't do a damn thing. Most of those people moved on and if they continued their bullying they most likely ended up with someone emotionally blunted and that will be their punishment.Our downfalls are the negatives we see in others, the external world is simply inner consciousness projected outwards, and when you realize thus, true change is possible.God bless
>>34891084You don't really want it. It's that simple.
>>34883841>The world started in 2011Hermetics, ancient Greeks and Egyptians talk about not spilling your semen mindlessly..
>>34890985You are taking St. Isaac completely out of context here. I don't know which of his treatises you are citing (I doubt you know this either) because you don't provide a source for this quote, but St. Isaac believed worldly death was a good thing. It is only through divorcing yourself from the world that you can obtain a higher knowledge of the spiritual and of God. He literally stated death to the world and death to passion was something to be strived for. He also stated someone with a full stomach can't know God, because if you are satisfied through the world, you can't see the world beyond. And he covered the topic of chastity, like a million times. Pretty sure Isaac was into SR bro.
>>34891561>>34890985st isaac was a convinced universalism, even if this fact is memory-holed by the orthodox hierarchs all the timebut recently, some decades ago new writings by him were found, which solidified the fact he was ,indeed, an universalist
>>34891264Lusting doesn't have to be a full blown degenerate obsession with the flesh. If you are 'eager to have a normal sex life' and your wife isn't putting out, then you are still directing your energy towards your sexuality. You have really 3 choices:1) Find new application for your sexual life force through business/entrepreneurship/hobby etc etc. Do it with intent, without "kinda sorta doing it cuz you low key just want wifey you fuck you again". 2) Realize that your woman is always a reflection of yourself. You don't properly project your sexuality, or perhaps your woman didn't love you all the way you thought she would. It's always a painful realization to admit that our women don't feel the same about us despite the fact that "we married them". Women operate on a different frequency. The vast majority of women that I've slept with (I'm talking some time ago, before I decided to be non degen) were married. Non-commited women always look for some sort of a hook, but for a lot of married ones they just want the sexual release. The death of her brother and having children only puts a dent in the relationship if she can use it as an excuse. Past the initial grieving period and post-birth health issues, there's really no reason why she shouldn't be fucking you. But 1) She knows you won't leave (which is, unfortunately a problem in women's hindbrain, because her loins respond to the retarded notion that her man should have plenty of women around him) and 2) you've bought into the "my wife had this n that and therefore this n that" mantra. Know this, a woman who respects her man, fucks her man. She will do it if only for not any other reason than to make sure that he doesn't stray.3) cont
>>34891467Bro ... the Reddit spacing. It's hard to deal with.
>>34867667semen retention attracts succubi.
>>34891572Cool story bro. Now provide a source for this quote and now tell me why universalism inherently means that he didn't believe in semen retention.
>>34889104>And the fact that the woman has to experience pain at your pleasure (at least in the beginning, until she gets into it) is a bit of a demonic-overtoneThe demonic and angelic are the same force on different wavelengths>The idea of conquering women as opposed to connecting with them isnt healthyConnection and conquest are the same force at different times
>>348916223) Tell your wife that you're gonna fuck other women. Male and female sexuality is different, the truth is that most women actually aren't that against their men fucking random pussy on the side, as long as, and this is critical, as long as they KNOW that the man won't leave them. But for that confidence to be a thing she needs to KNOW that you already have options that you aren't exercising. I don't mean she needs to be TOLD, I mean she needs to KNOW. If what I just wrote to you seems like it's completely out there, all I can tell you is that that's the way you set up your relationship. The most common thing that I hear from guys when I suggest this is "lol but won't she do the same thing?" and here lies the crux of the issue. If you have fear that you won't get another pussy to want to stay with you, then you won't have the balls to make the quantum leap to make this a reality. In my experience, women very strongly respect it when you own your nature without apology and defy "social norms" because that's just who you are at your core. If she says "oh then I'm gonna fuck other men too", then congratulations, you just realized the problem wasn't "her sex drive", the problem was... her sex drive - with YOU. And that won't be a pleasant realization to have. Hope this helps. Personally I'd pick the first option, and your wife might very well start finding you more attractive when she realizes that you withdrew sexually and will start to get a little jealous. But you need to commit to that, and not do this half assed shit where you're still seeking sexual expression but at the same time pretending that you don't really want it.
>>34891642I will not let you adress me as bro.Im not that anon. I DO believe he believed in SR-he didI Am chiming in to defend the rep. of that saint
>>34891264>I am eager to have a normal sex life again with my wife, and now after such a long stent with out consistent sex or masturbation, when we DO have the chance to go at it, my stamina is all gone.I'm calling bullshit here. There is no way your "stamina" is gone by refraining from sex or masturbation. This is one of the massive lies pro-coomers push here. And twice in the mornings is probably too much sex anyway. Your relationship (if you aren't lying about that) seems to be based on gratification and doesn't have a solid basis to begin with, if a death in the family can cause a depression that disconnected her from you.
>>34891629Deal with it>>34891647Relative morality can lead you to a place where you are deciding that you're a good man because you're killing 4 children instead of 5. I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, in the end all energy stems from the same source of being, but I know that when I do "higher" frequency things, my life feels good, I feel whole and clean and present to God and when I do "lower" ones, I feel disconnect, more fear, more lust, more aggression. Human beings have the ability to discern, and it's our responsibility ( if we choose to ) to use that discernment as best we know.
>>34891678Bro, chill. We are on the same page.
>>34891096Say alhamdulilah and do chöd for your demon
>>34891681This is also a good observation. Personally I think your relationship is BS. When I dated a woman whose close family member died, it only brought us closer together because she wanted to feel more love and support in the moment. Women use external circumstances as "excuses" to stop fucking all the time. It hurts our ego to admit this, but let's be real, if you were a celebrity and had 100s of women at your door, and were married, your wife would know what's what, and she would keep fucking you cause she would know that eventually you would leave for greener pastures.
>>34867667no wonder why nietzche decided to drink his own urine lol
>>34891683>Deal with itNah. I'm going to call it out. There is a reason you are here and not on Reddit. The form of communication shapes the thought. If you want academia, go to a university. If you want a blog where people upvote you, go to Reddit. If you want to talk to people using more of a vernacular and not be a pretentious fuck, can it with the Reddit spacing already.
>>34867667For best results confess your sins. The best exorcism is a good confession. Nothing feels better than a good confession. Demons that fuel unnecessary lust get access to us through our past sins. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwJ8L1fp4N1AfFOVnT1ef8h9tAMbLXoft
>>34891683>Relative morality can lead you to a place where you are deciding that you're a good man because you're killing 4 children instead of 5I am an evil, sinful goblin>I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, in the end all energy stems from the same source of being, but I know that when I do "higher" frequency things, my life feels good, I feel whole and clean and present to God and when I do "lower" ones, I feel disconnect, more fear, more lust, more aggressionAs the Shivastotravali says-"Reject all that is not God.Accept all that is God.This is the essence of all spiritual wisdom"
>>34891719You cannot change how other people behave, you can only change your own interpretation of it.DealWithIt
>>34867696Absolving sins. Casting out demons. That's the most important work there is. Only a priest can cast out demons not a doctor. https://youtu.be/92VxWRkhSFk
>>34891736I accept that evil and good and all permutations of them are all aspects of God, but in the same breath I can choose to pay attention more to one side or the other.
>>34891755Good and evil complete each otherIt's always a good idea to sattvamaxx because most of us are extremely tamasic already. However there eventually comes a point where one is bound and damned by sattvaBalance is ultimately the ideal, though that is also just another relative concept
>>34891780I feel guided by my intuition, and so far intuition has led me to feel better and better, I don't really consider the "balance" of things into the equation of life, but I suppose that naturally a person who is in touch with themselves will lead a balanced life.
>>34891832If your mind is pure your feels should logically lead you "there"
>>34886253Well is your understand of 'God' really The One, or a mountain demon of some Caananites?
>>34891880I agree
>>34889056Thanks anon. I'm somewhat aware of this, eh... "state of thinking", I made it to what you may call "abundance mindset" (I think that's just a name for a rung of God-consciousness) before so I've clue of where the room for improvement is.I'm not really into the Indian framework (e.g. I don't interested in "3rd eye" but more in "how to use my eyes correctly, in coordination", part of it is verbiage part of it is actual cultivation system differences) but yeah I have a better framework ready to implement, thank you.As to "losing out", I tried an approach to SR that didn't work before and that caused some damage, that's why my approach is a bit wary about "eliminating" or "reducing" habits before I've found at least a good impression of what the replacement would look like.Not the best state of mind that those words are formulated from, I know, thanks for hearing me out and reaffirming that healing, SR and "God consciousness" (or "cosmic consciousness", or the more specific "abundance mindset" which necessarily overlaps with the former) go together.
>>34889646There's said to be a dude who grew a new tooth in India, somewhere in the past five years.Regardless of the truth, I'm not a "fact checker", I think that's a nice thought, it'd be nice if we could get to that level of healing consistently.
>>34891928The Hindu interpretative framework just has specific names for it, the actual energetic phenomenon of 3rd eye opening is available to everyone (although you probably won't know how to discern it if you don't look for it). Pretty sure that Kundalini awakening is referenced in the bible in many places, but that's subject to interpretation.And yes, abundance mindset and Christ/God-consciousness are largely the same thing, it's just that Christ-consciousness is largely associated with the full manifested version of it, and abundance mindset is a framework flip that you do to start sending out a generative instead of depleting vibration into the universe. In the end it's all the same thing though.
>>34891730This, confession is absolutely amazing.I've heard it said "We're as sick as our secrets"
>>34891967That's still assuming names to be neutral as-in not having properties, that's abstracting thinking. Names have associated sounds which are specific resonances to specific "shapes" or "places", so which names you use determines some of what systems ("lifestyles", "internal organizations", "cultures", even meditations) you can establish. I'm also annoyed by the confusion about "chakras", which are used both as a term for specific organs in the body (or associated energetic clusters, idk), but also for tantric systems of associating specific shapes and forces to those centers.Such as "the heart chakra" both being taken to mean "the energetic center of the heart" and "some symbol associated with wind that we routinely associate with and even actively bind to the heart", while the latter is and ought be a matter of choice of meditation practice.
>>34891647So??Boiling water and cold water follows the same logic, but I don't see many people showering in boiling water.
>>34891999Potato, potatoe.Symbols are merely pointers, they can never represent the thing itself, and each person has to interpret them subjectively anyway so talking about the specifics of any interpretation is largely fruitless
>>34891737Not trying to change you. But I'm am going to let you know that you are a bitch for using Reddit spacing.
>>34873385the coiled serpent
>>34892103I'll live with that shame and wear it proudly on my sleeve.
>>34867667When I store up my nut it makes me think about girls more. That's why u gotta drain it regularly, like taking a shit. Keeps your mind focused on work. You can live your life with perpetual post nut clarity if you just keep nutting every time it wears off.
>>34892203>When I store up my nut it makes me think about girls more. That's why u gotta drain it regularly, like taking a shitYou are literally comparing your ability to create life with taking a shit. And you see no problem with this comparison.
>>34892164Just some advice, you will never achieve apotheosis with the Divine Creator while embracing the ways of Reddit.
>>34892385More ways up the mountain than one brother. God bless you
>>34892006Balance
>>34892691Balance is a meme.
>>34892530>More ways up the mountain than one brother.Reddit isn't a way up the mountain brother.
>>34892875You have some strange hang up about this. It's simply a paragraph I write. Whatever association that you hold on how you interpret my writing is just that, your association. If this forum has some culture of writing material, then I don't mind, I won't alter my way of being to cater to some arbitrary criteria of acceptance.The fact that Reddit has a similar paragraph structure to how I usually write is irrelevant.
>>34867667So I just busted a nut 5 minutes ago and it felt really good, which broke my ~3 week streak.Didn't watch porn, was just really horny and busted to fantasy.I found it a bit painful on the rise to climax, there was a lot of pressure in my balls from abstaining so long, I don't think it is good to not bust a nut for a long time. I think min-fapping is the best, like once or twice a month (no porn obviously) is the sweetspot.
>>34893671Raw eggs bring you back to base line
>>34893671"please, PLEASE dont retain, goyim!! just a little release please! anything but reabsorption and transmutation please goyim!"
>>34894842These charts are full of shite. It's laughably RPG like. What's next, roll at least 18 to ascend?
>>34893671You are a coomer, just accept it.
>>34893671Good you are not watching porn, now do Tibetan rites the morning and before bed. If the claims are true you will no longer masturbate in general even with imagination
>>34895210>If the claims are trueBrother, why do you doubt?If you had done it and are benefiting from the rewards, why would you question of you know the potential?
>>34895588Because I have recently started them, but somethings tells me this is the way. I just tend to cautious when saying things
I always seem to miss these threads when they're started so I can shut them right down. But then again I don't come on often so I'm not always available. So semen retention is a meme, just like nofap. Vasectomies prove it because when you have one, your body literally absorbs the semen back into itself instead of allowing it into your ejaculate. So how come people who get vasectomies don't get these magical powers that fags who start these threads claim are achieved when you don't yank your chain? So stupid. Simple logic immediately destroys these dumb topics. Remember this next time you see one of these threads.
>>34894904The energy of vibrational/emotional scale is a real thing. The reason why it looks like an RPG chart is because human beings have a value system that compares A <=> B, and since there are states of awareness where you are more and less aware than any other state, we have to use the best possible context that a human being can resonate with, in this case it's a number scale 0 - 1000. When you are attuned enough with your true self (or higher self), you will be able to differentiate where you land on this scale with a pretty good accuracy, and it won't be a forceful assertion, more like an allowed perception. In other words, you'll know when you'll know. Pro tip: if you think all this stuff is BS and you don't feel any of these things, you are below level 200 of "Courage". Meaning the "Courage" to see the world in a new light, the Self as Universe, and not self as ego. Look up David R Hawkins work for more info.>>34895945Already been answered either in this thread or the other. Balls are what create sperm, semen is what is ejaculated all the same. But even beside that, again you, and pretty much anyone who argues against this practice operate from the biologically provable empirical frame of reference. Drop it.You will never understand the "benefits" of doing this practice logically, because the experiential phenomena that occurs with conjunction of this practice simply makes no fucking sense. It is completely illogical that it feels that the universe starts working out in your favor, it is completely illogical that things start happening to you as if God smiles at you and you recognize your true potential. The women attraction? Once you realize how meaningless it is, not only are you going to get it flowing your way all the time, you will start to realize that you have far greater potential than you've ever thought possible. You are containing more of the God essence that is really you in your seed. Spend it only on a woman you love.
>>34895945>So semen retention is a meme, just like nofap. Vasectomies prove it because when you have oneLord have mercy you are an idiot. Do you know know that semen and sperm are not the same thing. Do you not know the function of the vas deferens? Do you not know that an exponential amount of semen is not sperm. Vasectomies do not affect the production of semen. At all. How are you even able to function in society being this stupid?
>>34893671>So my bullshit about my nuts hurting because of nofap got called out so now I'm going to pretend that I retained for three weeks and busted a nut and now my balls hurt. Calling bullshit on this too. Ejaculation, after 30 or 40 days of retention results in zero pain you stupid fucking shill.
I wanted to quickly barge in just to say that I've been on and off NoFap for almost 10 years now, always feeling the strong effects of it but having difficulty to commit everytime, and never really going beyond 1 or 2 months. The last year or so I've been trying to take a different approach and masturbating only one day a week, which seemed more reasonable, but ending up being much more difficult to stick to than actual NoFap. I don't think I've been able to stick to it for more than 3 weeks in almost a year, whereas with NoFap I feel like once you get past a month or so you start dissociating feeling horny from the urge to masturbate and it gets much much easier.Last month I picked up pic related which I wanted to read for a while and one of the things that blew my mind in it (it's a fascinating read, check it out) is that basically every fucking culture practiced semen retention. It's actually kind of crazy. I knew it was a thing but not that widespread from East to West. That convinced me that it's much deeper than NoFap's "bro science" and I'm ready to stick to it for good. Most of those ancient traditions basically describe the same types of "superpowers" that NoFap does, which makes sense since everyone shares that same feeling when doing SR but it's still kind of crazy to me that it's been practiced forever.
>>34896117Also two things I want to add:I'm not gonna follow any NoFap stuff this time. They make you cling to that little day count like an eternal addict in remission, with their nice little motivational quotes and stuff. It's really superficial and not really seeing the big picture. I'm not counting days, just deciding that masturbation is not something I do.And I'm realizing the "once a week" thing was not working at all because I was only letting that energy build up to waste it again at the end of the week. I wasn't redirecting it at all. It was basically "oh I'm feeling really nice today, Sunday's coom session is gonna be really good". So that energy wasn't consciously used in any way. Now that I took the decision I already feel the energy being put in other places because I'm not expecting any coom session to happen again. The conscious decision of where you put that energy is much more important than I previously thought
>>34896117>>34896208Based, thanks for the book recommendation, I post in these threads quite a bit and never seen it.
>>34896300Go for it, reading Evola on this subject is an absolute treat. That man's knowledge of every culture and tradition is mindblowing
>>34867667Been going strong for 4 months. Today was the second day after a wet dream ans it usually is the day random people harass in the street so I decided to stay in my dorm and play vidya. Then I went to take a nap and have this condition called PGAD, which means if i'm not careful when i relax i have an orgasm. Which I did. I just fucking RELAXED, and had an orgasm, then it's like i got possessed, and relapsed 7 more times in one day. 4 months. All I've suffered, all the fasts i did, down the fucking drain. God really did a number on me on this one
>>34896807At least the lies are entertaining.
>>34896967what do you mean?I'm this close to offing myself. All the progress I've made in 4 months, and I've had 2 or 3 good days tops, and now the hell starts all over again. I can already start my neighbor from upstairs pacing his room at 4 o clock in the morning. Every fucking thing that happens is rigged to annoy me. And for what? All these efforts for what? Have a slightly better position in this shithole? What a load of crap. I haven't found a good movie or book in years
>>34897061Dude. You don't just relax and then come. You were probably beating it, if you aren't just a complete faggot trolling this thread. No one kills themselves if they come. They just start over. Go be a troll somewhere else.
>>34897289stfu dumb glowie
>>34869423>>34870023>>34871275Well said, anons. Glowniggers and brain-rotted coomers absolutely SEETHING.
>>34892379Life is shit dumb fuck
>>34897489As you speak, so it is.As you don't, so it is not.Learn this lesson and you will be unlimited.
>>34897525Based & LoA-pilled
>>34897489Perhaps if you stopped spending your energy on coming your life would not be shit. Praise be to our Lord.
>>34867667meds now bruj
bored of fappingmy usual is not exciting anymore and I don't care to delve into more perverse topicsI think I'm on the right path bros
>>34883866good draw dude. Im good enough to draw faces, but Im pretty bad at drawing bodies. Any tips for a complete beginner?
>>34899783Ask yourself how dejected you are to come to a thread of SR, reply to your own post and then attempt to turn the conversation into something you're less uncomfortable facing...Remember, you came into this thread.Seek God anon
>>34899810>reply to your own postthe fuck is this schizo talking about?. all that cooming made you a retard dude.
>>34895945I don't know what the effects of a vasectomy is, but I know that semen retention has a massive positive effect.I know this because when I practice it, people start to act differently towards me, I become more self assured and confident.You could figure this out for yourself if you overcome the conditioning that everyone has to tell you what reality is.Let experience show you what it can do, by trying it out, if you can.If you cant, then introspect and find out why that is.
>>34899860Same exact experience
Christians have built nearly every society since the Roman's so your questions pretty ignorant.
I'm having such a hard time keeping it going bros. I do well for over two weeks, nay a lewd thought on my mind for the first week. But at week 2 or 3, I inevitably break and relapse to masturbation, though I've managed to stop watching porn entirely and edging entirely.
>>34900130Christians have taken the credit for what built nearly every society since the Roman's so your questions pretty ignorantMost people who weren't directly involved in the church didn't really associate with Christianity outside of what was considered consensus and safe, going to church and abiding certain moral order, etc.Those are the people that built civilization , normal people trying not to starve nor be restricted from liberty
>>34867836>create an entire social structure from the ground up>drive the entire progression of human civilization>all to get away with itsugoi
>>34892379Life can now be created without semen or egg.Humanity is its own god now, and nothing is sacred.
I've been no fap since maybe around April 3. Had a wet dream around May 18, and was feeling so horny last week and caved by hooking up with a sugar baby I've been in contact with. Hooked up with her again today. Have I fucked up? I still haven't technically jacked off since April.
I need advice or feedback on a project I have of extreme personal importance.I probably should talk it with my therapist and\or priest, but here goes the thing:>Im on SR but due to being extremely good at lucid dreaming ,I can...well, LD at will>I almost exclusively use my LDs for cooming -which has IRL cooming outcome- or acts of violence>I want to take up Brahmacharya and Ahimsafor 99,999% of people dreams are "fault less" but I control them so much, and im so so much aware IN them, that I have no excuse.how do I go "all the way" and embrace Celibacy and Ahimsa even in my literal dreams? i have infinite possibilities at the speed of a thought so saying No to them is extremely hard.
>>34869423Well said, I experienced this as well. I use to be 100% coomer brain rot and even deluded myself into thinking it's ok to coom and do what I was doing with porn (porn is a real bitch of an addiction too and coomers either deny this or hide from this fact). Noticeably when I stopped, even after a few days (usually about 3 to start feeling good, I assume this is testosterone build up) I become more confident and feel way more comfortable in myself.As a coomer, I had the same effects: couldn't look people in the eyes, felt anxious, afraid to say the wrong thing. When I stop I feel so much better about myself. I start to like how I look in the mirror. I feel like a man again. I feel so much self-love and I begin to glow in a spiritual sense.I do have my downfalls and that's my goal to fix. If I get a good workout, I just get very horny and as I said, porn is a bitch of an addiction. After workout cooming feels amazing, I won't sugar coat it. But I know it ultimately works against me.On the other side of things, sex with women doesn't make me feel like shit after I cum, it's an entirely different energy it feels like. Anyway I just wanted to parrot off what you said, it gives me vigor to continue this journey. I think porn is the biggest problem, I barely fap without it, if at all...The longer I retain, the easier it is to avoid porn. In fact it starts to disgust me. Also my attraction with females changes. Instead of just being some big butt, big titty slut enjoyer, I begin to see the finer features in ladies and their beauty becomes immaculate compared to some random slut online. I still do like a nice booty but man, I gotta continue this journey because I want to be in a relationship again and have a level healthy interaction with females instead of just goon-slop.Godspeed any other anons on this journey. For anyone defending constant fapping, I hope you can see your addiction for what it is: your brain is being ruined and controlled. Godspeed
>>34900191>But at week 2 or 3, I inevitably break and relapse to masturbation, though I've managed to stop watching porn entirely and edging entirely.This is something positive. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Just keep working at it.
>>34867667https://youtu.be/vBh8BNLgXOw
>>34867667I was gonna coom to porn but then took a nap instead
>>34896807I think this kind of attitude is what puts you at the greatest disadvantage. You went strong for a long period. You didnt' relapse 7 times. To be honest, the first "Relax == Orgasm" episode isn't a relapse. You have to almost consent to the wasting of your energy. You did that 7 times, and that drained you probably. But look at the 4 months and count your blessings and boons. Experiment with the experience. You are only defeated because you accept to be
you only say that because your worthless body cannot keep up with the joys of masturbation, and you must ejaculate once and then die of lack of fluids. the rest of us have embraced the void and masturbate anyway as a final fuck you to death.
>>34867667Anyone else notice a strong yet pleasant odor from their balls from SR?
I'm almost 1 week in.How do I boost my confidence?
>>34903995I get the energy and confidence boost after 2/3 days
>>34904004It's over...
>>34868294 I think it's from the will to power, meaning from his notes and potentially not a complete or refined thought that was meant to be published. Though I tend to agree semen retention is a potent stimulus to power
>>34904018How so
>>34904018Jizzmaxxing: the final frontier of the Western world, a blue-balled battleground that entrenches men in the ruins of a once-fabled incognito mode. There's nothing left.
>>34904082Because I'm already past the 2-3days mark and haven't feel any change
>>34904395Try 2 weeks minimum
>>34902467This happened to me several times but I finally broke past my PB. Over a month now
>>34903995Keep going.Biggest change for me happened after 2 months.I got the light buzz in the first couple of days but actual change takes a little time. Especially when shaking off a daily habit.That's my experience. Please keep going and see what happens!
>>34904748Same. Made it a month myself. It feels like growth, true growth.
