>>34851352
How advanced are they really, spill the beans big bro

>>34851352
what was grandpa's background?

>>34851352
can't be arsed to make shit up without being prompted?

>>34851352
>34851377 what this bleached nigger means is, >tell us all about your grandpa

just to start off, heres a few random tidbits of gramps lore. some of this is pasting from a google doc i made of everything so the writing is a little more formal here.

> Majestic, or MJ-12, from conspiracy theories and stuff is not real. It’s an op used as a distraction. The us govt has a huge hand in UFO conspiracy theories and such, several prominent ufologists on their payroll.

> greys are the first aliens he met. he was told this is because they’re already so ubiquitous in popular culture, to the point where they’ve pretty much ceased to be alien, so it’s the easiest and least unsettling alien to meet. he said it would be shocking how accurate our popular depictions of them are if not for the fact that their description was an intentional “leak” in preparation for the disclosure event that was to occur in the 1980’s. WAS being the operating word here it never fucking happened.

> reagan prevented disclosure in the early 80's. there was too much money to be made and large corporations can’t benefit from making ET tech available to public. some ET tech has made it into private sector tho. (gramps wouldn't say tho)

> greys are artificial but also organic. this is why some people have reported that something is wrong when they are face-to-face with them, like they don’t belong. this is because of some sort of uncanny valley kind of effect going on because we are looking at something that was not the result of natural processes, of evolution, but of careful genetic engineering. Don’t get me wrong, they’re not robots in the way we think of robots. They are fully organic. You ever see Blade Runner - they’re like the replicants. They’re robots, but they’re flesh and bone.

>>34851352
What was the meeting like, did they just sit down and start talking over tea or ?

>>34851440
What was the hardest truth for (You) to swallow? And did it go down easy?

>>34851372
no idea. i was always told he worked for govt but he had a degree in engineering.

>>34851363
depends on the species. the greys are weird as fuck because they're not "real" in the sense that we are. they're not organically made. greys were created by a race we call precursors to be worker drones. precursors were a highly advanced civilization originally from the zeta reticuli. went extinct only a few thousand years ago and left behind these little guys. because they can’t reproduce sexually, greys use cloning. but because the tech they’re using belongs to the precursors, and they’ve been created for very specific tasks with limits to learning and creative abilities, they don’t quite understand it. Just how to use it. so theyre still figuring it out. the way gramps explained to me is that they cant create stuff so everything they have is made by a more advanced race, and they just know how to maintain it. so they're advanced yes but not like how we would say a civilization is advanced where they're able to create tech.

i mostly know about the greys desu gramps didn't go into too much detail about the others.

>>34851487
They wouldn't reveal all of the truths to workers. Blame some precursors and not Orion Dracos who rule over our planet.

>>34851482
hmm thats a hard one because so much of what we know about ufos and aliens and shit from popular culture and conspiracy theories has kinda prepared us for it. like it's not surprising at all when he told me the us govt turns a blind eye to fucked up shit the ayy lmaos do. but they did try and prevent it with a treaty that eisenhower signed but they broke it really fast because the greys didn't think they had to follow the treaty. they don't give a shit about anything. the treaty basically said we provide cadavers for their genetic stuff they're doing and they leave live people alone and that didn't last at all.

the stuff that kinda got me is that the us govt started actively abducting ppl and working with greys on their experiments sometime around the 70s. that's where the dulce base rumors (mostly fake and gay but some truth there) started.

Bump

>>34851487
oh and before i forget lemme just lay out the other species for yall. pasting from my good ol gramps google doc i made:

> The precursors, who are extinct. The Greys, The Draco (original terrans, Draco is the name we gave them, their true name is unpronouncable), The Zetans (from the same system as the Greys, Grey physiology is based on them, often referred to as “praying mantis” aliens. Zetans are not much more advanced than us save for the introduction of grey precursor tech a few hundred years before us), and The Nordic (a group that calls themselves “Ita” which are actually the same as the “tall whites”, almost nothing is known about them, and they are not as human looking as others say, nor are they blond haired blue eyed people but have as much diversity as we do)

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>>34851523
boy, grandpa sure throws a wide net.

>>34851352
So have they been here a long time or do they just visit? I mean if the Grey's have been around for a while do they hang out on Earth?

>>34851480
sorry this is something i don't know. gramps just said one day they "met the aliens". sorry i know that's lame and a non-answer.

>>34851540
gramps only got specific with some things. also he wasn't all there when he was telling me this stuff. but whatever.

>>34851552
depends on species. most of them come visit. draco have been around for way longer than we have and are from here. some greys and some zetans live underground.

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>>34851352
Hmm aight I'll bite.
Did your gramps knew anything about unofficial NASA's doing? Like retrieving stuff from the moon?
Ever said anything about Phil Schneider?

>>34851352
Did he mention anything about how long our species has actually been around?

>>34851523
>cadavers
That's the first fucking time I ever heard this. I was always told it was live people. Who deez bitches think they is?

>>34851440
>You ever see Blade Runner - they’re like the replicants. They’re robots, but they’re flesh and bone.
They have metal parts originally, so shit opinion there son

i think it might get boring if i just wait for questions so im gonna post more from my handy google doc.

> There is no such thing as Dulce Base, at least not anymore. It moved to the Pacific Ocean in what grandpa called "Pacific Base" but he said it went by a different name (he jokingly said he'd get sniped if he spoke the name)

> The Greys violated the treaty that Eisenhower had them sign which outlined sanctioned and unsanctioned procedures. In a nutshell, a sanctioned procedure is anything that the US government has deemed acceptable for the Greys to participate in. At this time the Greys could only perform these procedures on cadavers and livestock, provided by the US government. They had to stop abducting people. they reluctantly agreed to this, mostly just because the Greys do not like inconveniences, even the most minuscule ones. And the US government represented a not insignificant inconvenience to them, even if our technology was severely behind theirs. They didn’t want any trouble, and they wanted to be able to conduct their work the easiest way possible, and us giving them genetic material was a pretty sweet deal for a while, but it fell short of their goals. When asked why they violated the treaty, they were just like “we don’t see what the big deal is, it wasn’t working out, so we stopped following it.”. Like they had no concept of what a binding agreement or treaty was. They just did what we asked for a while because it was the easiest way forward for them, and then when they wanted to do more, it was only logical that they disobeyed us. Very focused on pure logic. Makes sense given their origins as worker drones without the ability to create.

>>34851589
there are ruins on the moon but no actual settlements. also the soviets put people on the moon first. they all died.

phil schneider is an op like a lot of ufo "kooks" (gramps word not mine). some things he said are true and some are not. every op is like this. i don't know about his death but it was definitiely not a natural one or a suicide

>>34851612
it ended up being live people. see my other posts. >>34851614
ope my bad. well you get the idea.

>>34851352
So was your grandpa in the AF? Did he have a rank? Security clearance? What projects did he work on and does he have any patents?

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>>34851630
Does the name William Rutledge rings any bell in your gramps stories?
Did he ever said anything about Antarctica?

>>34851605
he doesn't have that knowledge but told me that the draco, who predate us on this earth, were very interested in our evolution and studied us from the very beginning, trying not to interfere. they thought seeing our evolution would shed more light on theirs. so he thinks we evolved naturally.

>>34851630
Now that's interesting, your pops must've been a very interesting engineer to have had that info on hand.

>>34851644
no clue. he had an engineering degree and since i was little they always said "he worked for the government". he never explicitly told me what he did even on his deathbed. we asked a BUNCH and he always moved on to something else. my brother and i theorize that he may have some moral conflicts or be ashamed of what he did.

one thing that was interesting was that he knew six languages. so i have floated the idea that he might be a xenolinguist or involved in communicating with the aliens.

>>34851648
name doesn't ring a bell, sorry. the only name he dropped was richard doty.
yes. antarctica is chock full of stuff that the draco won't let us touch. they are also really worried about the ice caps melting because of what's in the ice.

>>34851352
Did your grandpa ever get stationed to Greenland?

>>34851665
desu have no clue how his engineering degree played into his work if even at all. he also spoke six languages so i wonder if that had anything to do about it. as i said in another post even on his deathbed he wouldn't explain his actual job. just wanted us to know what he learned.

>>34851694
>they are also really worried about the ice caps melting because of what's in the ice.
tech or something living? cryptids, bacteria/viruses?

What's their deal with cattle

>>34851698
no he was stationed at what he calls "Pacific Base"

>>34851707
ancient bacteria and viruses, he says. things that are the reason why the draco no longer live on the surface. he said there was a hivemind microorganism that the draco were terrified of.

>>34851710
nothing very exciting. the same deal they have with people. genetic material. the greys are still trying to figure out how to keep cloning themselves without degenerating.

>>34851748
Hmmm I see. Now, I dunno how long you've been here anon, but another question.
Did you ever told your gramps about hm... that 2017 visit of a certain guest on one of the boards?
I think you know what I am referring to. Did your old man knew who that guest was?

more from my handy dandy google doc:

> if you ever hear a story from someone who claims to have met Greys, ask them how they talk to you. If they say anything other than telepathy, they’re full of it. But the cat’s been out of the bag for a while on that one so the liars know to say that.

> they communicate via telepathy, which used to require more than one human present at all times in order to verify, for the record, what was said. They can’t direct information to a single person, if you’re in their sort of “telepathic range” you’ll pick up on it.

> We have developed, with their help, a technology that allows us to record this telepathic communication, so now these groups are no longer needed for record keeping. It’s this thing that picks up these waves that contain what they say, and then synthesizes a voice. Like a radio.

> Hopkinsville encounter is real. Rogue greys. They still don't know why they did what they did.

>>34851536
Draco? Like reptilians? Like are they running the gov and shit, like that conspiracy shit?

>>34851776
> Hopkinsville encounter is real.

That made my day, I don't know why.

>>34851352
did he mention anything about underwater crafts?

what exactly do the ayys want with us?

will the government disclose the existence of the ayys or just disinformation forever?

>>34851773
he does and the guest was real. the govt didn't care a whole lot because by this point there was so much disinfo and real info out there that it didn't matter to them. i dont know if they had a hand in taking it down. if you're talking about what i think you are ofc

did he told you anything about lucid dreaming and abductions?

>>34851778
reptilians yes. running the gov? no lmao. they work with the gov but they don't really like doing so their interactions are limited. when we made contact with greys the cat was sorta out the bag so they revealed themselves begrudingly.

>>34851801
the "selfie in the desert" thread
soo that "guest" is he your typical grey or member of another species?
what are they called?

>>34851800
yes. underwater crafts are often directly involved with the base in the pacific and then one in the atlantic and indian oceans.

the draco want to study us or so they say. also when i say draco i just mean the governing body we have contact with. there are other nations in cave systems around the globe that think differently but i don't know jack about them except there are some in south america and in vietnam. the greys want to use our genetic material. the zetans are not sure how humanity can be of use to them so they are cordial. the Ita are worried we're going to destroy ourselves.

gramps was optimistic but i am not. based on what happened when ronald reagan killed that iniative i am pretty sure they'll hide it until the aliens up and do it themselves

>>34851718
Was he ever stationed anywhere else?

>>34851748
>hivemind microorganism dormant in Antarctica
Tiamat pill is the answer to this mystery, surprised to see a reference to this from OP

>Grays descend from the mantids
If this anon is larping he's posting accurate info from Karla Turner and David Jacobs. For once OP is not a fag.

>>34851803
abductions yes. betty and barney hill were real, whitley strieber is full of shit.

>>34851858
>. underwater crafts
speaking of crafts, question about their engine
your old man should know, I guess
does it includes mercury?
is there any light from inside of engine room? like the engine emitting light itself with some of red hues from the corners (tho I've heard that the engine room is round) around the whole area?

>>34851630
>>34851665
>ruins on the moon but no actual settlements
Should we believe this? Moon was just left abandoned because.

>>34851831
figured that was what yall were talking about. i never actually saw it and it's been my white whale. gramps said that it was a zetan that had some "work" done. i think what he meant by work was that it had body modifications

>>34851897
any clue why he did it?
just to fuck around with us earthlings?

>>34851859
he only ever said pacific base.

never heard of tiamat pill! interesting. can you tell me more

i do not know who karla turner and david jacobs are but..thanks? haha

i should note i don't know if i believe this stuff, i just believe my gramps believes it, if that makes sense. again he wasn't all there in his final months.

>>34851803
well I didn't update the thread up to >34851776 > if you ever hear a story from someone who claims to have met Greys, ask them how they talk to you.

Pretty much is not telepathy is lucid dreaming but may be that people cant recognise they are in the fase. I kinda have a brief encounter with a grey... he "woke" me up a night on vacation and I instantly know I was lucid dreaming and got angry at him, and the bitch pretended to be like a harmless animal and I was like full nigga moment... kind of a weird dream, but some days later I was told that there was high ufo activity on the area.

>>34851867
there was another supposed 'leaker' on /x/ recently claiming he worked for black ops gov programs studying downed UFOs. he did a Q+A. have you read that thread? if so, did any of it ring true when compared with the info from gramps?

>>34851884
i don't know. gramps never explained their tech. i am sorry that's a non answer. if i am being honest and i am prob gonna get reamed for this but i wasnt very interested in their tech because i don't have that sorta background at all.

>>34851896
i dont know it's just what he told me.

>>34851912
aliens with the exception of the greys are people like you and me. they have their own motivations and culture and some of them are rebels or just mentally ill. gramps said he thinks he was unhinged and maybe having an episode because zetans would never do such a thing. they are very choosy about who they send to live with us.

>>34851935
maybe? not sure but could you possibly link me to it? would be cool to read maybe i can provide some thoughts on it.

>>34851929
cool experience, not sure what i think but maybe to add to that: gramps told me that most people who have been abducted will never know they were or will think it was some sort of dream.

also yall i might go to bed soon i hate to leave everyone hanging. i'll hang around for a bit more and answer a few more.

i don't know if i should be afraid of anything im saying because again i personally dont know or have any verification that this all could be true. just the word of an occasionally delirious dying man.

>>34851949
this thread has all the archived links and screenshots. would love your input when you get a chance because i found it very intriguing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/13gjlo4/4chan_whistleblowers_all_answers_to_this_day/

>>34851939
>gramps said he thinks he was unhinged and maybe having an episode because zetans would never do such a thing. they are very choosy about who they send to live with us.
damn, even ayyys are fed up with human, damn
and again regarding the moon, did he ever gave you any dates about extra missions that took place there while searching those ruins?
were those moon missions in coordination with Russians maybe?
some stuff for other anons interested in this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z07jt50Y1g
try looking for "Apollo 20" stuff
and speaking about Russians. You said they put man on the moon first but they died. Was it accident or close encounter going haywire?

>>34851440
>>34851487
Greys are not a race but a variety of races that go from dumb slaves, to evil cunts to benevolent beings.

>>34851983
all he knew about the moon were ruins and the fact that were dead soviets up there when we first arrived.

the dead russians were an accident. by the time we landed on the moon it had been deserted for hundreds of years.

>>34851976
just started reading and already i can say this contradicts a lot of what gramps says

>>34851986
i'm just relaying what my grandpa told me. i won't debate ppl on what they are because i don't know and for all i know gramps could have been delirious or pulling my leg.

>>34852002
Damn, poor ruskies. Well at least it they weren't fucked up by the ayyys. I wonder if that whole story of Apollo 20 is legit (tho Alexei Leonov - supposed russian astronaut on that mission never dismissed those claims, sadly he died in 2019).
Maybe we could lift that ship and make it operational one day....

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>>34852030
for what's it's worth I fully believe yer story anon seem some really freaky stuff over the years myself,also there's this MASSIVE star that's brighter then any other in recent nights

my bet.....it's either some kind of "ship" heading towards up or something else heading straight towards earth

>>34851913
>never heard of tiamat pill! interesting. can you tell me more
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/413880531/
You can read all the posts linked in the archive about Tiamat here. Scroll down one post for part 2.

yall im gonna maybe play some zelda and then go to bed. ill leave you with this.

i don't know if any of this is true or not. my gramps liked to tell stories. he had lots of them. he spoke six languages and was a very smart and articulate dude and remained so on his deathbed.

but he was also dying of a cancer that spread from his lungs to his pancreas, and then eventually his brain. as he was in the last months of his life, and in hospice care, he told me he had stories for me and my brother. this is where im getting everything im telling you guys. he was not all there. sometimes we would ask him questions and he would start talking about the kinds of birds he sees outside his window in the morning. he was slipping. my dad (his son) also told me that he never heard these stories as a kid and believes he is pulling our legs. anyway, gramps died in our company and it was a really sad day and i think it's kinda silly how my honoring of him is telling it to a bunch of anons on the x board but i figured yall would listen and you did. nobody called me a slur (well i think maybe one) and so i feel very good about all this.

i dont know if anything i told yall is true or not. if you ask me i find it hard to believe there are all these races of aliens just hanging out with us underground. but i do believe theyre hiding stuff from me. and i believe my gramps believed what he said even if it was some sort of delusion brought on by brain cancer or the meds he was pumped full of.

anyway rip gramps and good night bros hope it was a good read.

>>34851352
I'm so sick of seeing the phrase "ask me anything" on this board. Reddit really influenced this place for the worse.

But sure I'll ask you a question:
> How come grandpa raised such a big faggot?

>>34852074
>Tiamat
Babylon?
>inb4 Fate anime was somewhat right about it

>>34852030
Everything he said checks out when assuming he only had partial access to the information.

>>34852081
"hiding stuff from me" ugh im dumb i meant hiding stuff from us.

>>34852052
never heard of apollo 20! will look into it

>>34852090
>It has nothing to do with video game / Sitchen bullshit version of the Tiamat story.
It's a redpill that will keep you staring at the ceiling at night unable to sleep.

>>34852099
>will look into it
Ehh you will only find leftovers, sadly.
It was a big thing in 2007 (tho it surfaced on 1st of april so many ppl dismissed it as April Fool's joke) now it's only part of the material available with obviously altered stuff, but gl to u my man.

>>34852081
it can't be delusion based on what you said, you could be a laper repeating the commonly known info tho

>>34852114
Aight aight, just thinking out loud.
>vaxx was literally a fucking hecatomb
w e w
and my father took it willingly, guess I will have to dump my gf too

>>34851810
>reptilians yes. running the gov? no lmao
yes lmao. they have different types of hybrids and ways to hide themselves.

>>34852149
i wasnt all that surprised by what he told me honestly. i feel like i heard a lot of the bits and pieces in popular culture.

What is the point of visiting Earth? We're way off in the boonies of our galaxy - aren't there more interesting places to visit?

Do the different types of aliens get along with each other?

>>34852159
i explicitly asked him about this and he said it was a bunch of bullshit made up by schizos and govt loved that ppl believed it because it discredited a lot of ufology circles in the public eye. he said the draco have no interest in meddling with us because theyre more interested in studying how our civilization grew in the hopes that it sheds light on their own.

>>34852192
he didn't have a high level of access. dracos have always pointed to others
>it was annunaki no it was enki

>>34852182
ok maybe last one because this is a good question and it's another one i asked him directly. the draco were already from here and a lot of them still live here underground. the greys are after our genetic material. and the other aliens followed suit. there are very few sentient alien races out there that they know of. we are all very rare. so naturally they're drawn to us.

the draco keep to themselves. the ita are very nice apparently but he never saw one or even knew anyone who did. just that they existed and were interested in our civilization continuing on to interstellar travel. the zetans are nice to us but he thinks its because they're trying to figure out if they can exploit us. the greys...are just greys. just little guys who dont really have personalities or culture or interests or ANYTHING beyond the survival of their race.

>>34852208
ok bud maybe you're right and he is wrong, i don't know. i am just retelling what he told me

>>34852085
Ask your own grandpa
>>34852081
Nice to meet you annon, he may have been pulled your leg to spend time with you without being in a sad mod, that's nice from his part.
Also in the case it was all/some true it's way better than the fan/pseudo religious new age bullcrap.

>>34852246
thanks anon. if he was pulling my leg it was still a fun story to hear

>>34852085
This is a good thread did you read it?

>>34852221
Why did a lot of the Draco leave earth?

What if I told you...

Alien hierarchy:
Tiamat - the queen mother of the empire, telepathically monitors and controls as necessary her underlings, sort of like the Borg. Is currently a disembodied consciousness since her original body was destroyed 6500 years ago.
Anunnaki - the first sentient beings, 15 foot tall arthropods, antenna, eyes on stalks, psychically project themselves as green mantids because people can't process the way they really look without being horrified. These are the angels and demons of the Bible, the Seraphim.
Mantids - Tall, spindly, white / light grey, black eyes, created by the Anunnaki
Reptilians - Created by Anunnaki from dinosaurs, before humans and the Flood, are just the dumb warrior caste
Tall Grays - created around the time of Noah's Flood by hybridizing mantids with humans.
Little Grays - biorobots without souls, perform menial tasks

Other:
Albino hybrids - made from Tall Grays and humans, not intended to blend in with society on Earth, are meant to live on the ships full-time, these are the way the Grays want to look. Some still have eyes too big to pass for human. Blue and lavender irises. White hair.
Human-passing hybrids - the infiltrators, there are many here among us on Earth now. Many MIB encounters were really them.

>>34852326
>Why did a lot of the Draco leave earth?
Noah's Flood destroyed the planet and they all had to go elsewhere to find a new home. This is called the Younger Dryas Impact Event. See Carolina Bays.

>>34852365
You're telling me that they could travel space, but not detect and intercept an astroid?

>>34852422
You're not understanding the size of the asteroid. The kinetic energy vaporized the entire North American ice sheet up into the atmosphere, which is where all the water came from that caused the Flood. It also didn't travel months to reach Earth in a way that could be intercepted. It was launched by Nibiru (moon-sized object) from close distance to destroy the planet.

>>34852422
The circular shape in the lower right of Hudson Bay is one of several primary impact craters.

>>34852446
There's hostile life forms in niburu is what you're suggesting? Who launched it towards the dracos?

>>34851776
>Hopkinsville encounter is real
Truth

>>34851776
can you post the whole doc (remove names etc do hat you gotta do)

>>34852081
what languages?

>>34852475
There used to be hostile life forms in Nibiru. They don't live there anymore. It is desolate and abandoned.
>Who launched it
Tiamat did, in retaliation for Nibiru being destroyed from within during an Anunnaki civil war. This is referred to as the war in heaven in the Book of Revelation. Nibiru was a hollow world, like a dyson sphere, about the size of Pluto.

>>34852150
You have two more weeks to dump her

>>34852346
>Anunnaki
They were just really fuckkng tall advanced humans because of the presented Earth conditions at that time that let them grow to ridiculous heights.

>Nibiru
The planet body is real but not on the lengthy timetable presented by Zachariah Sitchin. Its orbit is 792 years or so. It’s due back 2046 and will be CLEARLY visible around 2043. There is also another planet body/ space object that has an orbit of 138 years and the effects it brings range from mild to severe catastrophe damage.


Everytime I see these threads and I see no mention of breakaway HUMAN civilizations that survived Earth wide cataclysms that resurfaced and taught the survivors the infrastructure, technology, and information mankind once had, I immediately know glowies are lurking and contributing to the disinformation campaign.
There’s a good chance aliens are a thing for sure, but there is few proofs that cannot be interchangeable with advanced past human civilizations achieving such feats and being lost to time.
>>34852446
The “Noah” Flood (one of many floods in Earths history) was caused by the collapse of the vapor canopy bro, specifically when from the first arrival of the moon and its initial orbital capture brought about the immediate dispersal of “the waters above” and flooded a lot of Earth. It also caused the freezing to over of the poles as the change was near instantaneous. I may be getting the types of floods mixed up here because sometimes it’s caused by Nibiru pole shifts and the other planet body that comes around every 138 years. Do you know of any of the information I’m talking about?

>>34852570
You have no idea what you're talking about and are extremely unintelligent. NGMI.

>>34852513
W-what happens after?

>>34851630
>there are ruins on the moon
Did he tell you about the giant five monoliths?

>>34852598
Nothing happens, the tiamat poster is no different from red deer posters, except he does it here instead of on /pol/ for some reason.

>>34852576
Hello fed, right on schedule. 1902 was the last time that object that has a 138 year orbit was around Earth. Going back to review that year, you’ll find many evidences of its arrival, its effects, AND the foreknowledge the elite had of it as evident with their abrupt disappearance and gradual reemergence after 1902. To anyone reading, go research this year and you’ll find interesting anomalies.The elite knew it was coming but fortunately it was a nothingburger relatively speaking and they realized they had another 138 years to prepare. These are what DUMBS, underground cities, underground bases and such are for.

>>34852626
Well, so far the only thing vaxx does is speeding up a cancer (only if you're a high risk patient tho?) so yeah that's that

I'm late to this thread but can OPs grandpa or anyone else here shed light on if the alien races knew anything about the cataclysmic earth cycle theories circling around nowadays that the Sun goes through certain nova events that wipe away every thing on the surface (Mars too) and our species has to basically start over again with what little we preserved in the previous cycles? I mention this because the Arctic and Antarctic used to be at the equator hence the immense guarded secrecy of what used to thrive on those two continents in the previous cycle. This theory also ties into what the other anons said about DUMBS and deep underground cave systems all over the planet used to shelter the "real" dynastic families of Earth when the rest perish.

>>34852647
The chips in the hospital vending machine will speed up cancer, but that doesn't mean it will teleport you to aliens or them to you.

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>>34852081
Sorry about your gramps, anon, but thanks for sharing his stories. May he rest in peace.

>>34851352
Did your grandpa explain what their biology is? Like do they have the same organs as we do? Maybe more or less than we do? Also what did they sound like if they physically spoke?

what if op just finished an x files rewatch?
his grandpa is based on mulder

>>34852947
He would still know more than most of the retards replying to this thread lmao

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>>34852959
lol. OP, did he show you any photos, souvenirs or other evidence?

op post a screen shot of your google doc notes on his stories to prove your truth

>>34851776
>Hopkinsville encounter is real.
how to ruin a LARP in four words

>>34851557
Based

Alright if OP is around I have a little story.
>Be kid in the 90's, around 1994 give or take a year
>wake up and go downstairs for water
>dude sitting at my table who I remember as looking like a man with very red skin but wearing some kind of black clothing, "like a sock but for the whole body"
>Face looks like a red skull but no mouth
>somehow not bothered much by this
>sit down in front of TV
>not really the tv, just looks like it
>seeing planets and stuff, stranger tells me "watch" but doesn't move his face
>see lines joining dots
>know one dot a ways into the line is earth
>don't understand anything else
>says "You will understand later"
>talk with him but don't remember what about. Probably just kid stuff
>stands up, pats my head, tells me "You are good. Go back to sleep."
>walks to the back door and phases through it
>I go back up to bed with my water, lay down, fall asleep immediately


What the fuck was that?

>>34851352
Bumping

>>34851973
thoughts on

1. atlantis
2. Christian God and why they seem to run after Christ gets invoked
3. demon,succubi etc.?
4. Time travel

>>34851352
Anything about telekinesis?

>>34851352
what did he think of bob lazar?

>>34851644
Glowie detected

>>34851352
Fuck u and drink water.

>>34852274
No, AMA

>>34853822
Checked.

OP did your grandpa leave behind any maps?

did you ever ask him if the aliens had answers to questions like is God real, does life have a purpose, do we live in a simulation and so on?

also my condolences, your gramps sounded like a cool guy

>>34851487
> zeta reticuli
aaaaaand it’s fake. this has to be a new record, they outted themselves as a larper in just two posts.

>>34854335
they outed themselves in one by being like idk, idk, maybe he was pulling my leg -- they're already trying to shield the larp.

oh what?! that's stupid and wrong, but mainly stupid? oh idk idk, gramps said it.

bitch.
please.

the OP's replies just read like someone who watches a lot of project camelot and other scifi junk to derive their testimony.

>>34854377
not even a lot of project camelot. a very little bit, otherwise at least they could construct something entertaining around bluebook and dismantling stargate technologies. this person is a tourist who probably took a bet.

>>34854369
maybe its because i literally only know what he told me, dingus

>>34852496
that will take a while and also im still compiling because my brother is working on it as well. we have pages of notes we have to move over

>>34855085
Welcome back OP

>'greys'

"This security officer (Barry King) witnessed many of the strange things I saw in Project Mannequin. Not least, small military 'bio-robots' that are part machine and part organic, known as PLF’s (Programmable Life Forms). These are short, grey-coloured beings used for many projects. The PLF’s are developed in 3 stages, and each stage has its own section in the base. There are up to 500 stored at any one time, and these are used in the AL/499 and also shipped to various military bases in this country and overseas. The development between stages is rapid and is approximately 3 months. Depending on what the PLF’s are being used for, they have 3 fingers and a thumb, and some have 4 fingers and a thumb."
- James Casbolt

>>34852619
maybe? he never said how many but he said there were monoliths on the moon that are remnants from a past colony that didn't really go anywhere.

>>34852668
do not know. but he did tell me what a lot of ppl prob already know: some of the ayyys are concerned about how we are a danger to our own existence. the Ita in particular. again he never met or knew anyone who met them, but there was documentation he was privy to made sometime in the late 70s/early 80s that detailed meetings between the Ita and members of the extraterrestrial intelligence community which he claims to have been a part of (that is literally the most i got out of him in terms of his job and what it actually was). he said they have seen other races like ours die out because of similar things we were doing to each other and the environment. the Ita pushed for disclosure and democratization of their energy sources in order to "fix" the issue of accelerated climate change but you can prob guess why reagan squashed that. (gramps is p conservative but he HATES reagan)

>>34852776
draco biology is similar to ours as they are from earth and have a common ancestor (the same one we share with all animals). he doesn't know about the other races. greys have been using human dna in their cloning since the 50's so by now there is probably some similarities.

the greys don't physically speak, the draco speak in a weird growling clicking speech but can pronounce english words. but they don't like to speak english so they use devices around their vocal cords with speakers that translate what they're saying to english. he says he has heard them speak english without the device before and they had weird sentence structures on top of just sounding like growling. like their words all strung together in a singular growl and they structure their sentences like, if you were to say "i'm going to the store" they would say "go i store".

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>>34853102
i feel comfortable sharing this part

>>34855132
Are there ways to contact these aliens as a individual? A way to leave this planet?

>>34855132
Do the Ayys have any special abilities asides from the telepathy you already mentioned?

>>34853456
sorry no clue. but gramps did say that many people who are abducted either don't know or chalk it up to weird dreams. so maybe you did have an experience.

>>34853785
1. atlantis is based on a lot of different things, was not one singular real place though. its an amalgamation

2. gramps was raised catholic and died an atheist. i never have heard of ayyys running when christ gets invoked

3. nope no clue.

4. sorry nothing on time travel either.

>>34853793
he has seen things LIKE telekinesis but he is not sure if it's real telekinesis, from the unaided mind or if it is technology that allows it to happen.

>>34853822
he said anyone with a degree of prominence and financial gain in the ufo and conspiracy community is an op. he never explicitly said anything about bob lazar but using what he said earlier about ops i can deduce lazar is paid by the govt.

>>34854005
no, just some watches for my brother and i

>>34854067
yes. he stopped believing in god after meeting the ayyys because they themselves (at least the ones he worked with) did not believe in a higher power and they were "convincing". he believed life had no purpose other than to make those around you happy. never asked about the simulation.

>>34855186
the only ayys that did telepathy were the greys and even then gramps isnt convinced it was a natural ability. he doesn't know if the other races have "special" abilities but they have a different physicality to us. the draco are very strong, he said. the greys are weak and prone to broken bones.

>>34855155
nope.

>>34855107
where is this from? v interesting

>>34855151
oh and just so everyone knows when reading this - dulce is defunct and has been for a few decades. they moved operations to bases in the pacific, atlantic, and indian oceans.

>>34855155
this idiot is out here trying to get abducted kek

>>34851859
>If this anon is larping he's posting accurate info from Karla Turner and David Jacobs. For once OP is not a fag.
sounds like simon parkes

>>34855200
what're his thoughts on astrology and numerology?
mysticsm and magic too

>>34855234
So no lyrans?

ok guys i think i might be done. sorry to disappoint but i have stuff to do in life and also starting to run up to the limit of what gramps told me. i will leave you all with this, according to gramps:

1. the democrats suck but you should never vote republican. every person standing in the way of disclosure is a republican. a few corporate dems, but for the most part it is republicans.

2. ayyys are people too. he thinks they are all mostly good even if he is skeptical about some of their intentions. they are curious like we are. the greys are the outlier because they're not exactly "people" they're biological constructs meant to perform a function

3. no president after nixon actually met an alien. bush, obama, trump, and biden barely know anything about them if at all (he thinks trump definitely doesn't know for obvious reasons).

4. they don't really abduct ppl anymore but there are ayyys from these species who come to us from outside of their governments (the ones we are in contact with) so you never know.

5. his big piece of life advice for me was "stop worrying. enjoy life. be a good person. tell stories. make people happy."

>>34855305
>his big piece of life advice for me was "stop worrying. enjoy life. be a good person. tell stories. make people happy."
Fucking based
Thank you anon. It was a good read

Did they need to eat, if so what? Do they piss, shit or have genitalia? How do you buy friendly pet aliens on the darkweb?

>>34851776
>Hopkinsville encounter is real

I know.

>>34855132
wait how can aliens or whatever species live on the moon, if there is no air on the moon?

>>34855234
Not true.

Teach me how to signal an alien spacecraft. If your testimony contains no instructions or predictions you're just another storyteller like thousands before you.

>>34855132
>the only government on Earth is America
Why do LARPers assume this? If Aliens want to disclose so badly there's a hundred other countries to choose from.

>>34851617
Grandpa left out the part about the Zetans (as you call the mantids) hybridizing humans to take over the government to eliminate that "inconvenience". We may have already lost the war.

>>34851748
Literally the main plotline of the x-files, lmao, kek even.

>>34856037
What do you think would happen if the aliens landed in Russia and did disclosure there?

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Stfu glowie and/or larp fag. We all know aliens are demons in physical form, why do you think there are so many kinds but they are all so similar? They shape their bodies to whatever form pleases them, thats why you see so many "reptilians" they're "Lizard" people they're snake people, a conglomerate of aspects from both snakes (Satans first form he took in the garden of eden) and men done specifically to mock God and pay homage to their dark master.

>>34851352
How much truth is there to what Charles Hall said about the Tall Whites? How about aquatic aliens such as the Nommo?

>>34852073
That's Venus bro

>>34856085
>Literally the main plotline of the x-files, lmao, kek even.
Rewatch the X-Files. 20 years before Hillary started kuru shaking on the campaign trail they made an episode about a rich person from Arkansas (in hindsight, a clear reference to Bill and Hillary) engaging in cannibalism and getting CJD from a brain protein. That shit was soft disclosure and it would not surprise me at all if the plots of X-Files were lifted from actual Ayyyylmao stuff.

>>34855552
>wait how can aliens or whatever species live on the moon, if there is no air on the moon?
The moon is hollow anon.

>>34857998
Charles Hall is a liar who makes stuff up to stroke his own pathetic ego. Tall Whites aren't real. Alien-human hybrids who pass for human, as well as those that don't pass (too tall, eyes too big, etc.) are real. Charles Hall and his ilk are allowed to spread disinfo at ufology meetups to poison the well. They are a dime a dozen.

>>34859477
Checked and I take it Credo Mutwa is also full of shit? Where do I go to find the real deal?

>>34859743
Travis Walton is truthful, Phil Schneider I'm 90% certain was telling the truth after all, and as for authors, Karla Turner (3 books) and David Jacobs (The Threat and Walking Among Us) are absolutely authoritative. All other writers and speakers are not to be trusted. Either they are deliberately poisoning the well, or they have been deceived with screen memories and truly believe their own falsehoods to spread New Age lovey dovey nonsense.

>>34855151
Lore from your Google doc sheet seems real familiar.

https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutlore/comments/10p4ooe/connection_between_lorenzo_cabot_fo4_and_the/

>>34859808
I'm not clicking on the Reddit shit, but yes. OP is a faggot.

>>34851352
How old was grandpa when he died?

>>34851352
was Myziam a LARP?
I completely forgot abotu the desert selfie thread and thought the "guesT" the other Anon was referring to was Myziam.

>>34855305
>vote blue, give up your guns, promote drag time story hour, trannies are the soul of america, borders don't exist

you and your grandpa sound like faggots. sorry for your loss though

>>34861943
>would rather poison the land, air, sea, and food supply, give tax breaks and subsidies to the 0.01%, and destroy every public institution because a pedo priest told him gay people are le devil
These aliens really need to intervene by force

>>34851776
>Hopkinsville encounter
tl;dr on it anyone?

>>34856071
Jews?

>>34851960
Is there any benefit at all to being abducted? Can a human gain anything unique or valuable? Or is it all negative or neutral

>>34860888
Pretty sure it was. I was in those threads as well

>>34862019
See this thread from this post down >>34859756

>>34862019
They view it as contributing to the cause. It must have been crazy back in the 70s when they showed up and just helped themselves to sperm and eggs.

>>34861976
I don't have a problem with gays, I have a problem with people convincing other people to mutilate their genitals and then become lifetime patients for hormone supplements. I have a problem with people trying to impede my right to defend myself and my family. I have a problem with people trying to restrict free speech and censor and change history. I have a problem with people who import voters from other countries to drown out natives at the ballot box.

And if the grayniggers are on their side, fuck them too

Aliens have some wild forms of government. A book needs to be written on it. Our government is shit tier hot mess.

>>34862445
>Aliens have some wild forms of government.
It's called Communism you idiot. Who do you think the (((illuminati))) work for? Retards like you who think they're here to save us really do deserve to be turned into goop.

>>34862000
A rural family was "attacked" one evening by "goblins" and a firefight ensued.

In regards to alien implants, is it possible to detect them at home?what is the correct way to find them in the body and remove them. I would love to go to a professional but afraid they will just laugh at me or have me committed if I mention it to a medical professional.

>>34862000
Watch a yt vid on it there’s an 8 minute version it’s interesting

>>34862452
Are you really saying you fully understand the alien agenda? Because that would be a incredibly fucking stupid thing to claim

Did they say if the Ita ever used telepathy to communicate also?

OP

The precursor story is just one of the cover stories they give people. The truth is always hidden to the most highest involved. The phony stories are cirulated to specific people. There are dozens of backstories to which they can backtrace to the person.

So we know he was an engineer and was told the X story. Now we have an easier time narrowing down who talked.

There is no extinct precursor species. The Greys are far more widespread than just this part of the galaxy

>>34851352
My _insert relative_ worked for _insert secret level job_. He said_insert the same old soup alien lore_ and that's true coz trust me haven't you seen is my grampa who died? Get losttt

>>34862847
New age faggot.

>>34851776
>Hopkinsville
Have you watched Hellier?

>>34862000
>>34862761
Watch Hellier

>>34862452
Ill bite because I think this needs some explanation. Its mind blowing.
In an advanced civilization, which we are not, reproduction is closely monitored and only prime candidates are allowed to reproduce. They are usually limited to 2 offspring. Any more and there is a fine or penalty. Birth control is implemented for everybody. All housing, food, clothing and basic needs are provided free to the entire population. Education is provided by the state and subsequent employment is based on skill and training. No paychecks. Work time and quality of effort is logged into a database. Credit is given for time served to obtain extras which could be vacation, travel, unique items or priviledges. The governing body of the population is selected from the smartest and best qualified of the entire world. They lead for life. They are held accountable for their performance stats or removed and replaced. Crime is punished by detention or exile. Society constantly breeds for higher quality beings. Low performing beings never reproduce and there are sufficient resources for all without cost.

>>34864757
this except it's slavery, not star trek.

>>34864757
Think of City 17 from Half-Life 2

>>34851440
Any indication that some of them are those who took the covid injections and went full trans-human coming back from the future?

posting again because r*ddit found the thread.

>>34865223
no indication besides the obvious one that you might suffer from schizophenia

>>34861943
don't worry anon, the democrats won't take away your ability to fuck your cousin

>>34860190
kinda young. early 70's

>>34857998
none. that's all crap. gramps did not explicitly tell me about him or but he did mention that the closest thing to what people call the tall whites or the nordics are actually called the Ita and they are less human looking than other folks accounts suggest, and have made incredibly few appearances to people, mostly by accident. so basically nordics and tall whites are fake and therefore gay. he said Ita are human in appearance if you squint from a distance but when you get closer you see they're not similar at all.

something of note, he said that every race he is aware of is humanoid. bipedal. a nose, mouth, and two eyes, two ears.

>>34856071
gramps didnt really believe any of that stuff. i dont know if i do either.

>>34856037
because we were the only folks to shoot down and recover their craft. they revealed themselves because they fucked up and it was better to come forward than keep risking things. the greys don't like inconveniences no matter how small.

>>34855552
They live underground but have some buildings and observation decks/telescopes that jut out from the surface.

>>34855487
greys eat from their skin as their digestive system has atrophied over the centuries of degradation in the cloning. they secrete waste from their skin in a form like sweat. the draco eat the same kinda stuff we do but actually prefer a diet of plants. no clue about the zetans or ita.

>>34859808
interesting but never played fallout.

>>34862019
negative or neutral. most people don't know they were abducted.

>>34862377
your parents (who i can easily deduce are siblings) must be very proud you could write all that anon. good job.

>>34862531
they dont implant. at least not on purpose

>>34865223
If we could do that, furries would have been turning themselves into tigers ten years ago. Asians would have at least figured out how to turn white.

>>34851575
I read a book as a kid that proposed that some dinos evolved to higher intelligence and live in the earth with their magic tech. It was probably some schzio that was fed disinfo

anyway i don't suffer from brain damage so i don't have a r*ddit account but thought id respond to the special needs children commenting on that r/aliens post.

> zeta reticuli is inaccurate and outdated ufo lore that proves its fake

honestly, i have no explanation or proper response for this. if this disproves what gramps told me, then so be it. maybe he was jerkin my chain the whole time. either way, it was fun to hear his story and fun to tell it.

> eisenhower signing a treaty is from american horror story and from a mockumentary so that is also fake. also just many comments about how this is like mass effect or even the plot of halo or prometheus

first off, there is a thing called tropes and archetypes and they exist and transcend many forms of media and storytelling for a reason.

second not sure if i mentioned it elsewhere in the thread but there is a reason that gramps said what he did about how accurate the portrayals of greys are in the media: it's by design and by accident. the parts of the govt that deal with ayy lmaos intentionally "leak" stuff. in the same way that the us military collabs with productions (like top gun maverick, marvel movies, transformers, etc), they also collab beyond just letting them use their gear as long as they say nice things or aren't critical about us imperialism. he said that part of the plan of disclosure was using media and a dripfeed as a way of gauging public reaction.

> reagan not disclosing doesn't make sense because private industry COULD make money off it

these people in that thread don't understand what i'm saying. private industry already has some of our tech! the issue is if it got out what the ayys have there would be riots in the streets asking for their tech to be avail free and for the good of mankind. the ayys all share the same energy source and it is infinite and clean and free. if they let the public know about that we'd all want it and not accept any other answer. again, thank you republicans.

>>34865507
it's got a grain of truth to it with the draco (the name is cringe but it's the colloquial term the govt uses).

>>34864021
What do you know of them?

>>34865510
sorry typed too fast. i meant "private industry has some of THEIR tech" as in they have ayy lmao tech.

>>34851694
Yeah it was probably a moral conflict he tried to memoryhole. I worked for an old AF glowie that treated me like his son. told me before his death about his work on mk uktra type stuff in the 50's and he acted that way. Im almost certain he was used to procure children for experiments

>>34851748
I remember mainstream science talking about the bacteria ect that could be released due to melting ice caps back in 2010s, and also cloning cavemen and shit. Sounds like disclosure or whateva to get us used to it. In the same breath they were talking about how my state (ohio) had banned human animal hybrids. This was in the columbus dispatch. Im sure someone could find it if they wanted to, it was just a few paragraphs. Circa 2011/12

>>34865091
Its all implemented on Venus and works well. People work as much as they want to. Our social ills are what is keeping us down.

another r*ddit comment

> i say that the greys can't create but then later say they helped us create a device to read their telepathy.

they can create but they are very limited in their ability to. sorry its possible i was hasty and misspoke. they were built with a specific purpose and for the preservation of their builders they were given certain limits on their abilities. they are able to create in certain ways in order to solve specific problems that they are made to deal with. this is how they are able to troubleshoot the issues they are having with cloning. however they cannot build weapons or anything that isn't something they know how to replicate as a part of their initial function. does that make sense?

in terms of the device in question, gramps didn't go into detail but my assumption is that they allowed us to reverse engineer something they already had.

> humans have perfected cloning of animals how come this more advanced grey civilization can't

ppl have too much of a human mindset about this, so to speak. i am not an expert on the ayys, literally only know what i was told secondhand by a dying man. however based on everything he told me about the little grey ayy lmaos i can come to the reasonable conclusion that they are a highly advanced yet severely limited race of beings created to perform a function that had said limitations placed on them by their creators. this is why they don't have a culture, or personalities or anything like that. they're not supposed to be a civilization that has outlived their creators. and so this is why you have the problems you do. you're not supposed to look at the greys like you look at any naturally evolved lifeform. you're supposed to look at them as a product made to perform a specific function being asked to perform functions they don't have capacity for. it's like trying to get your vacuum to also clean the dishes.

>>34851929
Wtf no way dude. Since i was a kid ive have these weird dreams that were more real than waking life and id see either horrible scenes like something from hell or see things that would later happen, 911 being the biggest one. But also dumb shit like me crashing my car and then some time later id be in that same situation and be able to avoid it for example. As a kid i thought it was god, when i got older i had more fucked up ones and thought it was unclean spirits. You are saying its ayyylmaos? It started around maybe 7,8 years old and my mom has the story i wrote about it which was aliens taking me to their ship and flying around. I saw 3 ufos as a kid with my friends but there was an af or navy base nearby that my moms old roomate worked at and later went fullblown crazy

>>34852081
You seem like a solid dude anon. Rip based gramps

>>34852081
nice fucking larp lmao

>>34865584
You make a good point.
When they started grabbing people and taking eggs and sperm they were teating people like houseplants. They did not understand human attachment.
When they began birthing these hybrids they had serious problems they did not anticipate. Bonding issues, emotional outburts, anger issues, familial intimacy. They had to start adjusting their program.

>>34865659
>When they began birthing these hybrids they had serious problems they did not anticipate. Bonding issues, emotional outburts, anger issues, familial intimacy.
I was abducted by my own hybrid children (two girls and a boy). They wanted to meet their biological father, they had that innate need to. It was a disaster: the older girl was disgusted by me, a natural born loser, and wanted to do anything with me. I don't blame her, I'd reacted the same if I knew I was born from a primitive creature. The boy was the most mature and just accepted it and the littlest girl got lightly attached to me, she even allowed me to see her for a last time. I have also children of another species but only I know they are mine. I know I'm not suited to be a father, I'm too below even for human expectations so I'm glad they are in better company, learning and growing up in a safe environment. Sometimes I imagine myself as a dad, playing with my kids and hurts inside a little. Of the life I would have but have to watch from a distance to not fuck it all up.

>>34865582
Retard.
>>34865451
>they dont implant. at least not on purpose
This right here discredits every single thing OP says. "They don't implant" lol you have got to be fucking kidding me. Kys OP for your shitty larp wasting our time. Did no one else catch this glaring falsehood?

>>34865451
ayylmaograndpa has outed himself as a massive faggot who loves trannies and voted for pedo Joe. Into the trash it goes.

>>34866229
better get off 4chan, or your cousin might fuck someone else anon

>>34866205
"they" meaning the ones my gramps knew about. i believe mention elsewhere in the thread that there are other factions that are not involved with the ones we have contact with (see: hopkinsville rogue greys)

any implants people end up with from the main factions are either a. fake or b. mistakenly left in. otherwise the only other explanation are the rogue factions.

>>34851440
> some ET tech has made it into private sector tho. (gramps wouldn't say tho)
/thread

>>34866278
I can see your onions-infused form with its high mutational load from across the internet. Keep telling yourself black lives matter to aliens and they only abduct White people for purely economic reasons lmao. You will never be a woman. STARSNEED

>>34866289
Greys implanting people is normal. Some emotionless but not "evil" greys can "help" us by giving astral implants that suppress emotions, not understanding that we as emotional beings get crippled by suppressed emotions.
>the main factions
Are mostly cunts who don't give a fuck, why not implant people to leech their life power.

>>34866333
least unhinged schizoposter

>>34866440
interesting. this is stuff gramps didn't touch on. he might not have known anything about it if true.

>>34865519
To clarify i meant he was given disinfo. It was a cool book for little kid me, introduced me to admiral birb and really shook up my ideas about aliens and prehistory. It had a reptilian looking alien on the cover, wish i could remember the name. It was probably written early 2000s or late 90s as it was around 2002 i read it

>>34866205
I can see how you would think that.
But the joke is on us. Venus is built out and the number of aliens commuting here from there is very high. The colony is a city that circles the planets surface and encapulated by a force field to keep out the atmosphere. Many people from earth have been take there on a case by case basis. The gaseous haze keeps it hidden from view but the force fields have been detected by earth scientists studying the geology. The population is a short humanoid pleadian type with blonde hair.

>>34865873
How about sort yr shit out and make human babies with a sexxi wife instead of this gay larp

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>>34851897

How does the Drako look like? What is their average height? Any particular way they transport? Walk? What is his predominat color? Do they really eat what we eat?

>>34864757
This is not the markings of an advanced society. It’s literally just the oppressive hellhole dystopia that groups like the World Economic Forum strive to crush people like you and me with.

>>34867488
The funny thing is, the current paradigm is described by taking this alien system and inverting or removing all its control mechanisms for its leaders
You're already living in the communist hellhole you imagine, because you live under capitalism

you are a liar. greys are an us psyop

>>34855305
>1. the democrats suck but you should never vote republican. every person standing in the way of disclosure is a republican. a few corporate dems, but for the most part it is republicans.
Yet another reason to vote democrat.

>>34866289
On the off chance you return, OP, I once heard a theory that "fairy children left here" were actually aliens abandoned/stranded here. Did you hear anything about aliens ending up here against their will? IE: dumped like a changeling

so greys are ayy made bio "robots"? how the fuck did the species that created them went extint? what about other species from tgeir respective planets, like do they have pets wildlife or something?

>>34851748
The hive mind parasite/wyrm is Satan/Sin or Beelzebub. Baal in your bowels, the fungus among us, the Yeast Beast that feasts in us.

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>>34851748
mfw OP describes CDF

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>>34851352
I think your gramps wasnt allowed to drink liquor with his meds, so he decided to drink varnish instead. I think you should put that motherfucker out of his misery.

ITT I am a faggot and try to psyop retards to vote for the dems

>>34865451
What was the alien opinion on world war 2 and Adolf Hitler?

>>34868824
nice try retard. isnt it hilarious how i tell yall all this alien stuff and you believe it until i tell you that the republicans are all in the pocket of oligarchs and don't want the public to have open access to alien tech because corporations can't profit from it? what level of mental retardation do you have to have to look at that and go "MUST BE FAKE AND GAY NOW" as though oligarch capture of the right hasn't been a thing for fifty fucking years

>>34851487
>i mostly know about the greys desu gramps didn't go
this is all bs horseshit thats been spewing online for the last 20 years
gramps say anything original AT ALL?
cmon dont tell me u larping but just regurgitatting crap u read not clever enough to larp further expanding the larp?

>>34851487
they sound like the rattataki from star wars lol

>>34869218
you mean the rakata? people on r*ddit also mentioned the forerunners from halo.

thing is, and i've said this elsewhere here an i'll say it again, a LOT of tropes and archetypes throughout media have been influenced by reality and through careful dripfeeding of info. it's believed that while much of what we claim to know about the ayys comes from govt leaks (intentional or otherwise) there is a not insignificant chance that we've previously had contact over humanity's time on earth. it's not beyond the realm of possibility in the slightest. i did ask about the ancient aliens hypothesis and while gramps had no info on the subject he believes it. maybe not to the lengths the fucken history channel (lmao) says they did but still.

also one thing to note is the term "precursor" was what they used but doesn't mean they were called that IRL or were OUR precursor. the greys just say "our precursors"

also as to why they died out the greys said they weren't responsible as it would be illogical to kill their masters, but said declining birthrates and illness that they found themselves unprepared for. they do say there are some still alive, most likely, but the spacefaring society they had is no more.

>>34869181
as i said to the person above, there is a reason why a lot of this probably comes as no shock. i already mentioned how gramps was not shocked when he first met the greys.
also the greys were primarily the ones he had knowledge on -- maybe he worked with them but unsure as he was tight lipped about the specifics of his job even on his deathbed, which can be sus in many ways ofc.

i'll tell you one thing, the zetans, the ones people call "preying mantis" aliens only look that way because of suits they wear. they look closer to greys than you think as they were sort of the template that the grey precursor used to make the greys. they were only a few hundred years ahead of us technologically until they stumbled across the greys and their precursor tech.

>>34868214
yes biological robots essentially.

said this elsewhere but it was low birthrates plus an illness that spread throughout colonies that they weren't prepared for. it's theorized that some still exist but their society as a spacefaring species is basically extinct. the greys insist they had nothing to do with it.

obv these other species have wildlife. they have pets. none have been brought to earth.

>>34851352
Bullshit.

You mentionned some of the aliens are "concerned" about humanity going M. A. D.

Was it only because of the cold war and them getting afraid to losse our genetic pools or do you think it might be a more general feeling towards our impact on the environnement ?

>>34869455
This planet has been known since the beginning. It was considered a zoo, a storehouse, a prison. No alien from far away considered it as a long term prospect due to geological instability. Now that has changed. The resources here are needed galaxy wide and tech can be put in place to safeguard a long term advanced civilization. Our property value went up.

>>34867488
The aliens are accountable to leaders higher and higher up and those levels become nonphysical as in energy beings. Corruption of the system is not feasible and improvements are always implemented. As far as us here on Earth are concerned, all we need to do is implement what has been proven reliable somewhere else. The humanoids that thrive under it are similar to us. We will not be guinea pigs. Anybody that wants to live like a degenerate retard will be deported to a stone age world like Jack Black in the Year One movie.

>>34851352
Bumperoo

>>34869455
the greys are concerned about our genetic pools. there is something about human dna that interests them more than the other species they're in contact with. which is interesting considering they apparently don't harvest dna from the species they're based on (zetans).

the others are people like you and me. and like a lot of people they have interests in conservation just generally.

draco: earth is still their home. there is a "interplanetary diaspora" of them but generally speaking they are invested in the preservation of their homeworld. but they also don't want to interfere to the point where they upset our evolution as a species. remember: we are a little project to them, a group to observe to give them insight into their own evolution.

the zetans: just interested in the conservation of earth as it's one of the few planets they've found that has natural, sentient life (as in, not colonized). also it is the only planet that has evolved two advanced sentient species.

Ita: same as zetans, but these folks are way more mysterious.

>>34867056
gramps just said "lizard like people" he didn't describe them in great detail. but he told us every species is humanoid. bipedal, a mouth, nose, two eyes and two ears.

they are roughly as tall as us.

they use portals apparently, unsure about whether or not they have any craft. they are tight lipped about their tech. even though they have civilizations underground no human has visited them. this is because they worry about being too nonchalant with their information and letting something slip that would disrupt our natural evolution, therefore impacting their project. their project being observation for insight into their evolution, ofc. they were apparently very unhappy when the greys revealed themselves. gramps theorizes that although he knows reagan killed disclosure he wouldn't be surprised if the draco had any hand in killing it as well.

they walk like us. they come in many colors and variations but he remarked they are pale from millenia underground. but members of their interplanetary diaspora have evolved separately and therefore look a little different, they have darker skin.

they do eat what we eat, but typically have a vegetarian diet with meat served on special occasions. they like their meat raw and enjoy poultry. gramps told me there are chicken coops at pacific base.

>>34869783
If they're trying to conserve earth they're not doing a very good job. Any evidence they have successfully prevented nuclear war? Would nuclear war bother them?

>>34869828
Do greys use portals? Basically I'm wondering about the crafts they use and how they move / where they go to.

Also do you know why those crafts are reported as being radioactive?

>>34869828
Is this what the Nazi discovered or admiral Byrd?

>>34869783
If they're afraid of a hivemind parasite in the ice, I bet they want DNA specifically not from their precursors to avoid genetic risk of succumbing to the same fate

>>34869828
>they like their meat raw and enjoy poultry. gramps told me there are chicken coops at pacific base.
Comfy. i'd share a meal with them

>>34869122
honestly both your main parties are ass, I know its never gonna happen cause glowniggers and other bullshit. But americans should support third parties more

Can ayys post here??
if so
>FUCK OFF SPACENIGGERS

>>34869783
>the greys are concerned about our genetic pools
What do you mean? Is this related to race-mixing?

>>34869855
no evidence of such but yes nuclear war would bother them. hence why activity skyrocketed around the time that tech was being developed.

>>34869878
wouldn't doubt it but have no confirmation. i do know they use FTL travel for "local" travel and some sorta folding/wormhole thing to travel large distances. i imagine this might be similar to the portals the draco use. no idea why they're reported as being radioactive.

>>34869879
not sure what you're talking about but the draco we deal with are VERY shrewd about no contact with humans. however there are other nations of dracos underneath south america and asia, but i imagine they have similar rules.

>>34869905
sorry, maybe all my info dumps have some folks confused. the DRACO are worried about what's under the ice, not the greys. the draco experienced a large population bottleneck at one point and it's theorized whatever's preserved in the ice might have caused it.

the grey's precursors have been said to have been made extinct or close to extinct through a pandemic and low birth rates.

>>34870387
yes i don't disagree. i am just saying the dems suck but there is NO reason to EVER vote republican. if you're going off disclosure alone, if that's like your single issue vote, then you can't support R.

>>34870856
lol no. nothing wrong with racemixing but what did i expect posting on fucken 4chan. the greys want our material because something about dna, dunno what, is very useful for their purposes. they don't want their pool of fresh material to dry up.

>>34871047
typed too fast. i meant something about OUR dna, not just dna lol

>>34870387
adding to this, believe it or not there are plenty of ppl within the ayy lmao segments of the govt who want disclosure. most "glowies" just do what they're told from whoever makes the policy. if they were told to help spread the truth, they'd do that. they were on board for disclosure until reagan was like "wait no won't someone think of the oil barons"

>>34869122
brcause the dems are the party of the oligarchs? Do you even pay attention or are you payed to gaslight? Like nice try glownigger you make it a point responding to every political comment foaming at your mouth

>>34871105
note how i mentioned establishment/corporatist dems early? ofc they have oligarchs controlling party leadership. however they are not a 100% bought and paid for party like the R's.

in terms of disclosure being killed, you 100% have reagan and his GOP handlers to thank for that. now a president is lucky to even get an answer on whether or not ayys are real.

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wow you can really tell elections are coming up with this kind of psyops spinning

>>34871157
demoncrat faggot shill. Get anally probed by ayys in hell shlomo.

>>34871208
there's like two places they can train. here and reddit.

TL;DR

American horror story season 10

lol kek almost

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>>34865451
>don't worry anon, the democrats won't take away your ability to fuck your cousin
Brainwashed niggerlover

>>34856085
And destroy all humans. Soft disclosure, perhaps.

>be me, guy with granddad who worked with ayy lmaos

>post some of his info on /x/ for shits

>they believe me for the most part, are nice and just want to know more

>mention the group in power who wants to keep it from people are overwhelmingly republicans.

>not even a farfetched idea, they are the original party of big oil and corporate interests anyway.

>suddenly tone changes to "stfu faggot glowie" despite believing all the ayy lmao stuff a moment before

>whatwasiexpecting.png

>shouldve told them all what they wanted to hear like the dems drink childs blood or trump is christ or some shit

anyway can answer more questions about the ayys if you're not too busy being triggered.

>>34871416
keep in mind a lot of this stuff is so ingrained into popular culture from soft disclosure sometime around the 60s/70s that the ppl working with the ayys probably don't even have to work with the media to insert these ideas anymore.

>>34871394
the inbreeding is strong with this one

>>34871375
dont want the show because it seems dumb but gimme the tl;dr on the similarities because i am interested

gramps did watch a lot of simpsons tho

>>34871208
yea im still waiting on my soros bucks to come in, they pay me to go talk to butthurt basement dwellers on mongolian basket weaving forums all the time because that's the demographic they really need to capture in order to destroy the west. kek

>>34871047
>nothing wrong with racemixing
My fat dick you inbred retard. How many scientific studies do you golems need racemixing is a cancer to earth

>>34871047
>>34871052
I should've know that you would have a knee-jerk reaction about the subject of race.
It's a popular theory that the greys homogenized themselves somehow, and can only "reproduce" by cloning. Perhaps this concern of theirs comes from us following in their footsteps or something similar.
For better or worse it's something that's being pushed by the media, you'd have to be blind not to notice. I was curious if this push was to help the greys in some way, bringing more types of DNA together to make it easier for them to work with, or perhaps the opposite.

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>>34865510
>private industry already has some of our tech!
>Our tech

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>>34871504
Nah, it's just that like the average leftoid when someone called you a faggot you jumped to the inbreeding insult like a good little goy, and revealed your faggotry more from then on.

I dunno if I believe you or not, and I could believe that Republicans would withold alien information more for some reason, but no way in hell would anyone sane EVER vote left-wing these days. The modern left are a bunch of insane illogical dumbasses who wants nothing more than to destroy the West through mass immigration of low IQ ugly shitskins, and to promote degeneracy and destroy the nuclear family and traditional values with falsehoods and tranny propaganda

>>34855224
James casbolt talks rubbish but I want to believe there really is a base making greys under Peasemore and that's where Piers Morgan was made too

>>34871595
oh no you got me ayy lmao

i misstyped.

>>34871588
because it's bogus?? lol

they were created with certain limitations one of the limitations being that they couldn't replicate themselves. ofc when the precursors began dying off they tried to adapt but due to their limitations their understanding of cloning was rudimentary at best, and now you have a race of beings that has physically degraded through each generation of clones.

>racemixing pushed by the media

gee forgot it was the 1950's

>>34871586
"scientific" "studies" ok buddy

>>34871641
the greys have degenerated over centuries of imperfect cloning but even they would never produce someone as retarded as piers morgan

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>>34869122
How pathetic you are. The only thing interesting about you is your dead gramps. I’m sure if we all vote dem we’ll get disclosure haha imagine believing that you absolute fucking cuck. Even if dems had all the power which they will eventually no matter what you won’t get shit but more shitskins raping your daughter and shooting your son. Don’t worry though when this country is majority mutt tier 2 Brazil I’m sure we will get alien disclosure

>>34871536
Any chances of them revealing themselves to the Public in our lifetime?

>>34871677
I think Casbolt's thing is more that greys are produced by humans, and that we also make supersoldiers etc (and maybe tards like Piers Morgan to hypnotise the masses)

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>>34871659
You can find them yourself cuck

>>34871712
now do a picrel with all the WASPs

>>34871712
besides you being a dumbfuck, actually i dont believe your average dem would disclose anything. it's done for because of reagan. presidents are lucky if they even get an answer to the ayy lmao question nowadays.

wow i really triggered the retard nest with that one, next time i'll make sure i dont upset the hivemind

>>34871736
Nah it’s not about Reagan you just keep outing yourself as a brainlet goy post after post

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>gee forgot it was the 1950's
You're not unironically denying race-mixing and anti-White propaganda is a huge thing in Western media, are you?

Anyway anything on the Men in Black?

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>>34871736
Go to a gym slob

>>34871536
Better just to say that watch the season. What you typed is pretty much from it..

>>34871719
trust me if the greys found it logical to do so they would have done so already. the draco don't want to because we are like a little project to them, they wanna observe so they can learn more about themselves. no clue on zetans or ita.

i think soft disclosure already pretty much happened. there is so much in popular culture that is true. the shit with the govt disclosing uaps happened because they just couldnt keep playing dumb in the face of overwhelming evidence but the pentagon as a whole knows nothing.

i think what needs to happen is a complete divorce of political power from corporate interests if anything of the sort is to happen and that's impossible.

i say that because prob the most surprising but also not surprising thing that gramps told me was that people in positions of high economic power, for the longest time, knew more than even the president did. not sure if that's true now.

>>34871047
Ah right, my bad
So my guess now is that the machinery to mass produce arbitrary DNA, or to sequester it long term, is too fragile or resource-intensive for them, so the next best thing is taking samples from live wild subjects as needed
I would think the Draco would be working harder to prevent global warming though, if it's between allowing a resurgence of what almost killed them vs spooking humanity by revealing their existence, I'd pick the latter, but maybe they have worse plans for handling the bad outcomes of humanity turning on them en masse

>>34871807
global warming is bullshit m8 they would know

>>34871766
if that's what you wanna call it lmao. not gonna take the bait anymore it's just a bunch of nazis getting triggered at this point. im here to talk about the ayys

> men in black
we asked him about this! i got a few tidbits:

>this program is now defunct.
>MIB were everything from regular humans to augmented zetans
>zetans are like some cronenberg shit. they have perfected organic technology and can mold and modify themselves to the point where they could almost pass as human in some circumstances.
>however this was still very limited and it was incredibly risky so the amount of zetans who were MIB were INCREDIBLY few.
>zetans only went out on very special missions and were apparently not entirely sanctioned by the pacific base folks
>there would be instances where human MIB would contact someone only for that person to be contacted by zetan MIB a day or two later and there'd be a huge fuss over it.
>the program was retired sometime in the 90's.
>it is no coincidence that the MIB comic book got turned into a movie when it did.
>when your average normie hears MIB they think of will smith. that's by design.
>to this day we are not certain why the zetans went out on MIB missions but we imagine whoever they contacted was in some way in possession of info they didn't want even the humans they worked with knowing
>hence why gramps and many of his colleagues are wary of zetans no matter how cordial they are
>99% of true MIB encounters you have not heard of because they are actually good at their job.
>the MIB had many different ways of keeping you silent
>threatening family or a persons life
>threatening livelihood
>bribery if nothing else works. money really can make a motherfucker shut the fuck up forever

>>34851487
Consider your grandpa wasnt told the truth.

Ive read hundreds of ufo cases.
Greys are portrayed like you say. But.

Your so called precursors are still here.
Some abductees have seen the 100 greys you mention.

But then appears either a 150cm human looking grey colored small eared alien who a actually controls the greys. Or, there appears the nordic looking white alien as seen in Travis Walton case. Or: several cases have seen woken up abducted people with humans in military uniforms and the small greys.

Small greys were likely a real species but it was turned into a bio mechanical organism that can be made and is used by multitude of species.

Mj12, fake? Mj12 describes scientists, military men, as a council managing things at the top. Your grandpa likely was shown the greys, the 100cm greys, not more.

He wasnt shown the user groups, aka real aliens.

Cool story still. Likely true but he himself was fed disinfo.

>>34871807
i would say if they prevented global warming that would count as interfering with our species evolution. if whatever is trapped in the ice got out they would just jump ship probably.

>>34871900

>Ive read hundreds of ufo cases.

im sure you have but keep in mind not all of them are true.

>Your so called precursors are still here.
>Some abductees have seen the 100 greys you mention.
>But then appears either a 150cm human looking grey colored small eared alien who a actually controls the greys.

you're talking about zetans. the physical precursor to greys (it's what they're based on) but not the actual creators of the greys. the actual creators mostly died out.

>Or, there appears the nordic looking white alien as seen in Travis Walton case.

i don't recall travis walton seeing nordics but i'll look that up. nordics aren't real though. that's the Ita, and the Ita stay out of most of these matters. but very interesting if walton saw the Ita.

>several cases have seen woken up abducted people with humans in military uniforms and the small greys.

ive said this elsewhere but later on the govt was involved in abductions.

>Mj12, fake? Mj12 describes scientists, military men, as a council managing things at the top

i was told mj12 was a cover of a cover of a cover. if it "exists" it is a shell organization. the govt has orgs that literally exist to act as a cover but not actually do anything.

>He wasnt shown the user groups, aka real aliens.

explain the user groups. this sounds intriguing.

maybe gramps was fed crap, who knows.

>>34851776
What ive read is:

"Greys" (small ones) are purely telepathical. But the 150cm aliens that controm the., can speak, engliah and have visited earth for thousands of years

This is such a sad 17-year-old's creative writing project LARP, really hate it, hope any of you taking this seriously die slow

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>>34871930
>i don't recall travis walton seeing nordics but i'll look that up. nordics aren't real though. that's the Ita, and the Ita stay out of most of these matters. but very interesting if walton saw the Ita.
Well then, do you know about a real story about the Nordics/Ita then?

>>34871659
>I misstyped.
Yeah sure, probably common with them long ass E.T. fingers, eh?

>>34872087
hey bro i can assure you all 12 of my fingers are human length

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>>34852346
I think MIBs are sometimes alien.

The intense stare is possibly telepathy.
Some MIBs arrive likely sith real ufo tech as they arrive from nowhere.

Is there a 50000 year old breakaway human society with space ships, living in oceans and space? Ones mentioned in: Morris Jessup varo edition, the sm-l aliens etc.


WAS TRAVIS WALTON CASE REAL

>>34871901
Seems like a bad value proposition for everyone involved, especially as a zero-interference policy cannot be indefinite
Maybe they present it as such to force as much adaptivity out of us as they can before intervention, to maximise data without actually destroying us or thawing the poles in the process

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>>34871930
Thanks for clarification, sorry if i sounded obnoxious.
Can you say is this 2 year old "new stuff" real:
https://archive.org/details/ultra-top-secret-mitd-rotate-large/mode/1up

Describes your zetans as controllers of greys.

Aztec ufo (next to roswell) hit a mountain top and depressurized, 2 grey pilots died, 1 real zeta (1 of 14 i think) survived and likely few human babies they were trying to drop on earth also.

Zeta was in some tube so didnt die but controls greys telepathically who are pilots. Use mother ships and then smaller craft.

According to paper they live maybe 1000 years old, hsve visited earth often, now concerned as this part of space and earth was just a park with wild animals, now wild animals have nukes and soon likely space ships. This one lived for years on earth until left and was one of first alien groups they (Usa) made diplomatic relationships. Paper says humans (Ysa) also travelled to its world. Also describes several alien groups:
1 most are human looking
2 grey robots
3 weird looking ones
4 pure energy aliens

Heres a screenshot.
This paper is also likely same as mentioned here 40 years ago:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koa3KfrLKY0

Can you say any more of zetans? Where are they from? Ive read some men in black had makeup on grey skin. They them likely. What group was Holloman ufo landing aliens? You can google for a photo, blue skin gold clothes.

>>34872115
>12
This freak has more than 8 fingers, everyone point and laugh

>>34851487
>Ancient extinct alien race called precursors
Well this was a fun read anon, but real life doesnt adhere to sci fi tropes.

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>>34871930
User group meant: groups that use "greys". I think theyre a commodity thata being traded in space. Theyve been seen with: earth humans (militaries), zetans, Travis Walton aliens. Thats what i meant.

If this thread hits bunp limit, lets make a new one, we are on to something.

I have few weird cases that happened to me, do you have energy to say any theories:

When I was about 2 years old, I lived in a 3 room apartment. My mother (who slept in the same room) found me one morning in my baby bed, but i was turned around, legs on pillow. Also, a painting that had a real glass frame had fallen from the wall, hit the bed, broken, right where my head was supposed to be. But i was turned around. Ive beem trying to theorize was i abducted and returned through the wall but wrong way and the dematerialization process slightly hit the wall and painting fell. My mother heard nothing during the night, didnt wake up to the smash.

2: i remember once being in some field eith so called angel hair eherywhere, i thought it was just big spiders.

3: when I was maybe 12 i daw a weird pic like symmetrical 1mm deep scoopmark on my chest and ive never had any operation done there.

4: 10 years ago (im over 30), i was living in top floor (6th floor). I remember seeing a dream where i wake up and open my eyes in my bed and see a 1m tall small grey who is trying to come through the small window (about 5 feet high window, 12 inches wide when open). Window is usually closed with a hook to only 1 inch at night. Other grey is next to this grey, as theres 2 windows, its behind a 3 foot wide big window that is hard to open and the small window is next to it on the right.

Im in the dream and see the alien trying to come through.

I instinctively jump up from bed, which has my leg end near window, and from the bed while standing i kick the alien and it falls.
1/2

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>>34872366
The other alien left there, makes a hiss kind thing, not sound but like aggressove mouth impression, jumps actually on top of a saucer floating behind the window and leaves.

Then i wake up maybe 10am, and the weirdest thing is: window is wide open and i never leave it wide open. Ive even drawn it on a pic, here:

Could this have been real?

Also 6: when i was 13 i found a maybe 3/4 inch long red metal wire in bottom of my foot one night that I just pulled out. Could have been some wire used by my friends stepfather (i was visiting there often) who painted as he had stuff laying around but I never saw this thin wire used anywhere.
Im also these:
>>34872151
>>34872116
>>34872251

>>34872380
You are not

>>34872380
Travis Walton tells the truth and the movie Fire in the Sky is a bunch of crap according to him, you have to watch his interviews for the truth.

By all accounts you are a genuine abductee and many of these are memories or altered memories, not just dreams, anon. However, ayylmaograndpa is mixing truth with glowop shilling and will not have answers for you. If you read Karla Turner's 3 books on ayy abductions, and David Jacobs' books The Threat and Walking Among Us, you will understand as much as you need to on the subject. Karla was murdered for refusing to stop sharing what she had learned about the abductions.

>>34872410
Ups a mistake, im not the first one of those, true, made a typo. Im these:
>>34871900
>>34871938
>>34872116
>>34872251
>>34872366
>>34872380


If we hit bunp limit lets make thread number 2.

Op: you said Russians were on moon, like when was that? 1950s? Or long before that?

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>>34872422
Yea, i better stop here:D

I was only joking, i saw nothing, i play too much video games, i was maybe reliving them in the dream. Hmm, but thanks for the tip will read them (out of curiosity).

>>34871157
You're saying reagan killed disclosure, just like all other rep. But there has been plenty of dem presidents before and after, why dont they disclose?

>>34872297
Why not though. There are a lot of tropes.

>>34872297
Real alien fans know they're called the Qi'Taerriensthsvyrjdj-ha(tm) because reality is never mundane

Nah I've been dicking around this whole time I've been spoon-feeding you all the plot to the halo games.

>>34852081
Anyone who has worked on these sorts of projects is bound to get sentimental on their deathbed. It seems unlikely such an end would be left loose. Either he was highly trusted and respected by his peers and superiors alike, or, what he told you was filtered to keep you from getting put to sleep forever.

However it's also possible that they hijacked the old man in order to tell you contrived narratives. How likely that is idk.

>>34872754
lol i know

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>>34872754
>(108)

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>>34851748
>a hivemind microorganism that the draco were terrified of
This thing?

>>34865451
>greys eat from their skin as their digestive system
Ur & Saahld

>>34866278
Comments like these make me think you're a kike. You absolutely fetishize this idea to an absurd degree.
>They don't want democrats in charge therefore they fuck cousins
Maybe the democrats don't mind "disclosure" because they think it's easier to lie to you and spin the narrative to serve some agenda than it is to hide it from you outright? Whereas republicans would rather hide it than try to spin some bullshit people are inevitably going to see beyond. If in any way these aliens resemble demons then shit is fucked.

>>34871659
You are extremely hypocritical about what you see as degenerate. If all it takes for something to be degenerate or not is current consensus then nothing is degenerate. Whereas the truth is degeneracy never changes and simply is what it is, regardless of the current year. Fucking faggot fuck your bullshit thread anyway.

>>34872754
nice try. you could have at least put some effort in.

>>34873072
sorry your people got assblasted in ww2

>>34872799
all plausible. who knows.

>>34872581
well first off it's not like a dem like clinton or obama is gonna disclose anything lol. i never said the dems were good, i even said they sucked. just that if you want someone to blame for the lack of disclosure it's the GOP. anyway, when reagan killed disclosure i mean he killed it. took it out back and shot it. no president since him was given any of the info they should have. they're lucky to get a yes or no answer.

>>34872432
>Op: you said Russians were on moon, like when was that? 1950s? Or long before that?

early 60's. gagarin was also not the first person in space. there were at least six others, all but one died. the one that lived brought back info they didn't want the public to know.

>>34872297
is it really that fucking hard to believe that a highly advanced civilization existed before all the others? also they weren't literally called the precursors, that's just what WE call them.

also tropes exist for a reason anons.

>>34873095
the only degenerates are butthurt basement dwelling foreveralones like yourself who get mad when a white chick fucks a black dude but also jerks off to it while crying about "muh great replacement"

>>34873121
You'd have to be a jewish child molesting cannibal to say that's what's wrong with humanity.

You're based as fuck OP, please do a second thread, it's nice when we get content that doesn't feel like it's written by a Christian Dominionist chatGPT

>>34873152
kys OP lmao
Pathetic.
>t. OP's other mobile phone

>>34873163
believe it or not, not everyone on /x/ has the same level of mental retardation that you do

>>34873151
ok anon if it helps you feel better about never getting pussy

>>34873152
thanks but it seems like i poked the hornet's nest so if i post any more it'll be the same butthurt morons getting mad because i'm not a neckbeard

>>34873163
You will never be a disciple

>>34873195
Just treat them like background noise, there was some decent engagement here and good threads are so uncommon these days

>>34873215
aight. you got any questions about the ayys for me tho that's why im here

>>34873114
So again, why you are so butthurt about reps when the dems does the exact same shit? Makes no sense. Im not even american and from where i stand it makes no difference who is in charge, still the same lies, war and bullshit. The only difference is that the dems put a woke spin on it, other then that its exactly the same.

And do we even need disclosure? Nothing in this thread is new. The way i see it the information is out there, they just ridicule it so most people can go on living in ignorance