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So there's a definitely a theme with this one. The Voynich Manuscripts, regarded as a tome of herbal remedies using a lost language.

Recently I had a bit of synchronicity with Peribsen. He found a plant thought to be extinct for other 100 plus years. For some reason the voynich manuscript popped into my head so I mentioned it.

P found what he believes is the plant just rediscovered, and it appears to be in the manuscript.

So we dug a bit further, and it doesn't use chlorophyll or photosynthesis. Get this: it eats fungus.

Gee, what a cascading level of coincidences there. So we're digging deeper.

Here's a link to look through the Voynich Manuscript:

https://archive.org/details/TheVoynichManuscript

2 weeks in. Had major die off last week, and the last 3 days I've felt pretty great. I feel more flexible and less stiff I think. My mind is clearer and it's easy to focus. Got insanely happy over something simple yesterday. Passing weird stuff in the toilet. Be gone, demons.

>>34335031
I have enjoyed the increase in flexibility, less stiffness probably more than the increase focus/lifting of the brain fog. The lack of constant aches is freeing.

>>34334945
This is a great book!

Just received word that the new nac protocol pdf (2nd link in OP) is being distributed widely to doctors.

This is super exciting, and makes me a bit teary. The prospect of saving lives is inspiring. Peribsen has been nose down doing finishing touches on a scientific paper. It's definitely going to rock the boat.

Speaking of, I fully expected an onslaught of viscious attacks now that the new pdfs are available, yet it's all quiet on the western front.

I think one of the reasons this hasn't completely blown up by now is the control the fungus has over the host. Sometimes you'll bring it up with people and it's like a switch flips, "cool. Well gotta run, talk soon!"

Is it an aversion the fungus is creating directly, or more cognitive dissonance? The average person probably doesn't want to envision the whole paradigm as false, misleading or missing major detail.

I wouldn't have believed it a few years ago. So there is some resistance to overcome, but repeat exposure can 'break the mold'.

>>34334922
You mean Myco-heterotrophic plants like the ones belonging to the Corallorhiza genus? Interesting.

>>34335281

Great work SC. We actually have a chance to avert a fungal pandemic if this manages to become common knowledge.

Had I not seen this thread, I would probably be trying to desperately search the pandemic box studies which AFAIK haven't produced acceptable results yet.

>>34335344
You disappeared for a bit, glad to see you are still here.

You might find this interesting:

https://phys.org/news/2023-02-rediscovery-ethereal-fairy-lantern-brightly.html

So I posted here 4 or 5 months ago making fun of this cdf thing.

Fast forward. I'm now 3 months in and it's actually working. Have also experienced brain fog gone and aches and pains mostly in my shoulder and right thigh.

It's weird because during intense herx my hip hurt like a mother so I was a bit concerned. 2 days of pain in there then this massive pressure released and it's completely gone. Usually I have to sit funny or use pillows and heating pad but now it's gone.

I think once my shoulder does this I'm going on Mantenants. Thanks for everything cdf.

>>34334805
Is that an actual book in your pic rel? ...I need to get my hands on that if it is

>>34334805
Baby anon here with an update, my plans to start maintenance have been altered. I am going to be omitting niacin for now. I have been doing research into everything recommended for maintenance and I wanted to post some information. We already are aware that the base protocol is fine, nothing to be worried about there and that BSO is actually beneficial, so I won't be elaborating on NAC, OO or BSO.

>Pomegranate extract
Turns out it is actually quite beneficial for both mother and baby. I figured it would be safe, but it's nice to see some research has been done into it.
>Phenolic compounds in breast milk could be a way to promote neuroprotective, antioxidant and anti-inflammatory health benefits in infants
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35510588/#article-details

>Pterostilbene
There is not very much data, and none in regards to breastfeeding. It's generally regarded as safe, I don't see any issue with taking it after what I've read.

>Niacin
This one needs caution. I found one source that gave an upper limit of 35mg per day of breastfeeding. Most are saying that it is contraindicated, and is correlated with serious side effects to the infant (none of which are described at all, anywhere). I've spent a lot of time researching and still haven't found porential effects. If someone else can locate these I would appreciate it. I am of the the opinion that it must be referring to the flushing effect potentially being carried over to the infant. There is also potential for liver damage, though I didn't find any documentation of this. My belief this is a risk comes from reading effects on adults. The slo niacin is definitely more risky than flushing because it stays in the system longer.

So my question
>is there any alternative to niacin?

And I want to say again, as I do on every post I've made about this, that no one should do these protocols while pregnant and if breastfeeding should get everything cleared by the relevant medical persons.

>>34335031
Thank you for the report anon! I hope things continue to improve for you.

>>34335478
I empathize on the hip issues. As you continue on it may return but each time it is less and less. I have had my knees and hip bother me this week but it was barely an annoyance. A far cry from where it used to be.

Recent science frames Lyme Disease as a bacterial infection.

They tested essential oils against this pathogen, and surprise! Oregano wins again.

>the activity of essential oils against the causative agent Borrelia burgdorferi (B. burgdorferi) has not been carefully studied. Here, we evaluated the activity of 34 essential oils against B. burgdorferi

>We found that many essential oils had varying degrees of activity against B. burgdorferi, with top 5 essential oils (oregano, cinnamon bark, clove bud, citronella, and wintergreen) at a low concentration of 0.25% showing more activity than the persister drug daptomycin

>some highly active essential oils were found to have excellent anti-biofilm ability as shown by their ability to dissolve the aggregated biofilm-like structures. The top 3 hits, oregano, cinnamon bark and clove bud, completely eradicated all viable cells without regrowth in subculture.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/130898.abstract

>>34335643
>Niacin
>This one needs caution. I found one source that gave an upper limit of 35mg per day of breastfeeding

Yes, always use caution and DYOR. We'll definitely look into this more. Thanks for the update. How have things been going lately?

Maintenance is all about genetic repair and Immune homeostasis. The two primary compounds that perform this magic are Niacin and Pterostilbene. Remember that Niacin boosts the NAD+ pool, and Pterostilbene triggers SIRT1:

>NAD+-dependent deacetylase SIRT1 is a master regulator of nucleosome positioning and chromatin structure, thereby reprogramming gene expression.

>In acute inflammation, chromatin departs from, and returns to, homeostasis in an orderly sequence. This sequence depends on shifts in NAD+ availability for SIRT1 activation

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1947601913476948

In gene repair, it prevents damaged DNA from replicating and blocks DNA viruses from unchecked replication.

>Although many dsDNA viruses encode their own replication proteins [35], their replication can be affected by the host cell's epigenetic modifications that are modulated by SIRT1

>Specifically, HPV16 E1-E2 replication complexes directly interact with SIRT1 at the viral replication origin, and SIRT1 depletion enhances viral replication

>The link between a functional, phosphorylatable SIRT1 and genomic stability is evident from the increased abundance of extrachromosomal elements and micronuclei observed when cells with no SIRT1 or cells harboring the non-phosphorylatable mutant of SIRT1 are exposed to mild perturbation of DNA replication

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19491034.2018.1456218

>>34335494
SC linked it here >>34334945

Dmt combo this morning, I'm bright and sharp as a knife. Reading a code in a book I grasped that quicker than usual, brain speed up a notch for sure.

Energy in general through the roof lately, after 3 months maintenance (plus c60/phoenix blood, zeolite, grounded bed and copper/zinc bracelets), feel awesome.

>>34335643
contraindications for niacin seem to be the same ones as for blackseed oil - it can cause contractions. It's not vert well documented but whenit ocmes to pregnancies the default position is not to introduce anything until proves safe

What's the recommended dosage for AlphaGPC for the extended maintenance? SC mentioned it should be less than classic choline, is 300mg per dose ok? Is CDP choline (citicoline) a viable alternative as well? What about the dosage? I've seen anon mentioning inositol in the last thread, I've seen it added to choline supplements for synergy, any thought on that combo?

>>34335791
Thanks! I appreciate anything you guys might be able to dig up. I wish that the information available publicly was better. There is just a bunch of warnings with no case studies, no list of effects, nothing. It's a real pain. But hopefully this will remind other anons of the importance of doing research, especially if they have or suspect any underlying medical conditions.

Otherwise we're both doing well. Baby is now 10 months old and is massive. The kid weighs over 20lbs and is about 2 feet long. I've noted that they just do not get diaper rash. My other children all had issues with rashes and very sensitive skin. I don't know if that's the protocol or just usual differences between children but I did find that interesting.

I'm also doing well. I had my throat get itchy on me this week from all the pollen but it's gone away again. A far cry from a few months ago with how terrible it was. Other than the mild twinge in my joints from the weather it's been really great. I feel a lot better after finishing my flucon and haven't had any die off in a few weeks, even after upping the oregano oil. Baby tolerated that without an issue as well.

I've also been able to go back to exercising again which makes me very happy. Before the protocol I would try but end up exhausted, in pain and miserable for the rest of the day. Now I can do my workouts and much more. Being able to be active again has brought me a lot of joy. I was always very active before I got sick and not being able to do anything made the depression much worse.

I'm still here, and still posting in nearly every thread. Been keeping up with everyone and enjoying the information. Haven't finished the new pdf yet but I'm about halfway through. There just hasn't been much to update about baby since they seem to be completely unbothered by what I've been doing. I considered a trip, because people seem to think I've disappeared lol but I don't know if I want to deal with all of that.

>>34337215
Alpha gpc is usually 400-500mg, was recommended too. Cdp choline can be used as well, dosage about the same. Just feel what your brain needs. Start on the low end like 250mg and see how your brain/body reacts. With 10mg noopept 300mg was too little for me, I need 400-500mg per dosage.

Inositol I can't tell anything about, space cowboy can, he tried that.

>>34337195
Thanks for the information on niacin anon. I hadn't dug around too much into side effects for pregnancy. I have to put that disclaimer on there because I wouldn't want someone to just do what I am because they think it is fine for their situation. Typically I do my own research and then run it by my pediatrician and midwife.

I did some more reading because I wanted to see a bit more what you were talking about in reference to the black seed oil. It actually seems that it is contraindicated because it inhibits oxytocic activity and can stop contractions. Even so, that's still quite a problem as the uterus needs to contract throughout pregnancy to prepare for labor. As you rightfully said, it's best not to introduce anything during pregnancy.

The problem is it's just too risky and unethical to test anything on pregnant women, so there just isn't a lot of documentation on anything really. You mostly just get adverse reports. Sometimes contraindications are based on only a single incident. I think that's the best approach we have at the moment though. It's definitely better to be overly cautious in this case.

>>34337412
BSO is often marketed for children 4years+ so it may be safest approach to start supplmentation few years after birth

>>34337412
Seems that the worry is connected to birth defect observed when B3 was deficient in the mother. The risk here is that hypervitaminisation would lead to sinilar effects. I tried posting research links and even plain DOI but 4ch blocks me

>>34337563
https://sci-hub.se/http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/archdischild-2017-313941

>>34337563
https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/64.3.339

There we go, the third one is censored here for some reason

>>34337595
I couldn't link to this study because I got blocked by spam filter:
Chamberlain, J. G., & Nelson, M. M. (1963). Multiple Congenital Abnormalities in the Rat Resulting from Acute Maternal Niacin Deficiency During Pregnancy. Experimental Biology and Medicine, 112(4), 836–840.

>>34335281
>doctors
Well, if you think they will shift to something that will likely kill their livelihood, I don't know what to tell you. Most will probably ignore it, or worse. If it's too groundbreaking, you know what happens then.
Also, most people are beyond saving and not worth it.
Good luck anyway

>>34337601
>I couldn't link to this study because I got blocked by spam filter

There are a few that 4ch blocks like nature, frontiersin, and a few others. A quick workaround is to copy paste the study title in Google or duckduck and the first result is usually pubmed. It has no issues with pubmed.

>>34337297
>Baby is now 10 months old and is massive. The kid weighs over 20lbs and is about 2 feet long. I've noted that they just do not get diaper rash. My other children all had issues with rashes and very sensitive skin.

That's awesome. I'm going to bet he/she will continue to have far less issues and thrive in new ways. Super baby!

Very interested in any future comparisons you make in progress.

We have another exciting test of the protocol going on right now. A person with diagnosed autism spectrum disorder has begun protocol. Any noticeable improvements in symptoms would be a milestone. Crossing fingers.

>>34338034
It was preventing me from pasting just the DOI and nothing else not even a link, sci-hub url always includes the doi as well so I think it didn't like something about the string of numbers there

>>34337931
>Well, if you think they will shift to something that will likely kill their livelihood, I don't know what to tell you.

It's more of an educational approach for dealing with fungal infections. Ask the average GP what Candida is and you'll likely hear "oh, a yeast infection? That's minor". Giving them the proper information and an alternative treatment will be eye opening for many.

And also consider that many doctors genuinely want to help their patients, and consider what they are doing as helpful. You can't blame the doctor when they all learned from the same materials. You really have to blame the approach, which is a far bigger problem.

>>34338056
yeah that's me. Tbf autistic traits are developmental, some systems will just never work if they are affected in the 1-3year old. I was lucky enough to be one of the high-functioning ones and I don't expect things like attention to detail, obsessiveness over interesting topics, higher iq scores or enjoyment of repetition going away. I do expect to see some relief in more trauma based symptoms that come more from social isolation of autistic people like anxiety attacks, involuntary movements and general regret. But it is widely accepted thing that autism is incurable, because other than the anegdotal 4yr old kid case study there is no example of anyone ever "recovering". With many of the ingredients of the protocol having long recorded history of use I'd expect a few anegdotal cases of accidental "cured" adults. People do tend to score lower on AQ tests in adulthood though which is usually attributed to learning to cope and masking. I hardly consider asperger's to be a dysfunction when it comes to myself desu. And for full disclosure I didn't actually prove to you guys in any way I got diagnosed, you only have my word and behavior to go on

>>34338182
My desu got autocorrected to desu htf did that even happen I fucking hate touchscreens. I'm not a weeb I swear

>>34338363
>desu
heh, that's some oldfag word replacement that 4chan does. don't worry about.

>>34338394
Yeah I got that after the second one, I do get obsessive over details like that because well I'm autistic lol

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Anyone here who bought BSO from brands that sourced their black seeds from Egypt? For the purpose of testing for cheap alternatives I bought a 100 mL bottle from huile-de-nigelle dot net which apparently is in France. The taste is very different from what I'm used to. There is none of that harsh turpentine taste and the flavor is very mild. The color is much paler than the other brands I've tried. I have tried Amazing Herbs and Health's Harmony, both which source their seeds from either Turkey or Israel, a BSO brand that I bought from an Indian grocer (which they call kalonji oil,) and another from an Arabic medicine shop (which they call habbat-us sawda oil)

Generic Arabic BSO was extremely harsh. Probably not cold pressed at all.
Generic Indian BSO tasted like it was adulterated with another kind of aromatic oil. Also unlikely to be cold pressed.
Turkish BSO was on the upper threshold of tolerance taste-wise. If I were not used to it already I would say that it really has a kerosene like taste and none of the peppery hints from generic BSO. However what I did not like about Amazing Herbs was that it isn't pure BSO and is a proprietary blend with other herbs combined.
The brand in Picrel had a fainter kerosene smell. It was bitter like most of black seed oils but it did not have that strong kick of spiciness which I loved taking with honey.

As we all know, thymoquinone, dithymoquinone, α and β-pinenes and all the good stuff are found in the essential oil. The majority of BSO is typical seed oil, about 40%

Man its so hard to find BSO without you having to spend a fortune

>>34338431
Ethiopian seeds are supposed to be better, but if the pressing process is proper the differences in active contents should be insignificant.
The one I use uses egyptian seeds and provides labwork for tq and volatile oils content. It doesn't ship internationally unless you negotiate custom pricing and delivery time, because usually they guarantee your oil won't be older than 3 days when you get it. Cold-pressed and unfiltered, you want to looks for small local pressers to get fresh product, there aren't many brands that list tq content but you should look for one of those. Color and taste are not as significant, you want a little bit of black sediment but not too much

>>34338431
Excellent review, thank you.

>>34334945

>Voynich Manuscript:

Its incredible you know about this. I looked through it a few years ago when it first was made public. I saw a documentary on it, and found it incredible. I think about it often.

The fact that the author had mechanisms to detail the microscopic details of plant life back then was provocative to me.

>>34338431
https://olini.pl/olej-z-czarnuszki-olini
they list tq content and ship internationally, I think those are Indian seeds. It's 2.5x more expensive than my Egyptian oil and slightly lower in quality. Their batches are also reported to be less regular, sometimes you get gold, sometimes black, but that's just rushed sedimentation, quality should hover around the reported value

>>34338553
Yes there's plenty of speculation. I doubt it originated in 14th century Italy, though.

More like it ended up there.

>>34335281
>I think one of the reasons this hasn't completely blown up by now is the control the fungus has over the host. Sometimes you'll bring it up with people and it's like a switch flips, "cool. Well gotta run, talk soon!"

I got this SAME REACTION from my husband, and my close friend, when I mentioned our deep dive into fungal irradiation. It was the first reaction of my doctors, but they think differently now, based on my results.

>>34337297
>Baby is now 10 months old and is massive. The kid weighs over 20lbs and is about 2 feet long. I've noted that they just do not get diaper rash. My other children all had issues with rashes and very sensitive skin. I don't know if that's the protocol or just usual differences between children but I did find that interesting.

You created a Giant! Well Done Madam! ;-)

>>34334945
thank you

>>34338073

Speaking of the Voynich Manuscript, someone may want to create a CDF Manuscript in hardcover leatherbound format...to keep safe for generations to come. You never know.

Hi all, this is my second time cleansing my biofilm.
The first time was last year after discovering CDF. Thank you everyone involved for helping me find a remedy to my chronic UTI issues.
This time, I've chosen to go the wormwood/oregano/BSO route after a parasite exposure at work.

I'm on day 10 now and finally seeing evidence. For the first week I was extremely dizzy, cramped and confused. It stopped about a day or two before the biofilm could actually be seen in the bowl.

This is a great tool to have in one's arsenal of health!

so where's the retard guide to this?

is the black seed oil from amazon any good or is it a lie?

>>34339112
At the top of the thread retard

>>34339167
those 250 page pdf's? what kind of retard do you think i am? high functioning?

>>34339177
Large font, many pages of citations.it also has a table of contents, so you can see what you think could be relevant and read only that. If you want the NPC guide, then go back to msm and tru$t the $cience.

>>34339231
>By modulating the intracellular redox state,
NAC can directly reduce oxidative-mediated
apoptosis and DNA damage

biology isn't my strong suit what does this say?

>>34339155
It can be okay. Make sure it's cold pressed and has thymoquinone listed, I recall the suggestion of around 2%.

>>34339323
thank you

>>34339332
Np. If you're uncertain about what you're seeing, post again with brand details for additional help.

>>34339289
Take NAC and shit happens. Take OO and BSO with it and shit happens in different frequency and consistency. Also you might feel better afterwards

>>34339177
Hello fren, don't mind this grumpy guy below you. Here is a short version of the pdf:
https://www.docdroid.net/jfTxu1X/the-nac-protocol-pdf

Its the one in the first post.
And if you just want to start. Take this:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34138719/#34138779

Short question:
If i remember corretly SC mentioned that you can use the Fennel oil also against the bloating. Does someone remember the recommended dosage?

>>34339112

Basically an ancient bio weapon controls humanity. You kill the multi dimensional fungus and your body and brain problems go away magically. Literally this.

>eyedrops
Contaminated eyedrops under the brand names EzriCare Artificial Tears and Delsam Pharma’s Artificial Eye Ointment, which were available nationwide via Amazon, Walmart, and other retailers, have caused an alarming outbreak of extensively drug-resistant bacteria linked to eye drops has now sickened 68 people across 16 states, according to the latest update from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. At least 16 people have been hospitalized, eight have lost vision, and four have had their eyeballs surgically removed (enucleation). One person has died, which was reported earlier.

arstechnica.com/science/2023/03/more-people-lose-eyeballs-in-outbreak-linked-to-eye-drops/

>>34339441
It was a few drops in a water bottle.

>>34339346
do you think this one is good?
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0844WPNJ1?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

>>34339464

Some have hinted at cdf being a small cog in a larger mechanism, like a tool of the demiurge to exploit loosh. I think that's what's happening.

>>34339810
This is on a tea but seems relevant?

https://healthandenergyfoods.com/fennel-tea-gas-bloating-remedy

>>34339855
>>34339855
unrefined, cold pressed, tq listed
looks fine compared to other options on ca amazon
unrefined doesn't necessarily mean unfiltered and 6% seems really high, they also sometimes list 4-5% as tq contect and sometimes as essential oil content which should include omega-3 and omega-6 and add up to over 20% total essential oil content which is confusing
they claim better, non-bitter taste which is a bad sign
but looking through other amazon options over there that's pretty much as good as it gets, nobody really bothers to post lab results

>>34339855
>>34340206
Sweet Sunnah looks good, high content more resembling natural, but apparently they don't put the actual tq on the actual bottle, just in the marketing which is a bad sign

And remember to keep your oil in the fridge

>>34340206
>they claim better, non-bitter taste which is a bad sign
yeah it definitely doesn't taste bitter, just oily and originally had a quite bit of that spicy burn. it also has the strong aroma of turpentine/paint thinner/machine oil that i've seen plenty of people talk about which idk if it's a good sign or not

>>34340278
sounds good, I would ask if they filter their stuff or just sediment. Tq is the most important ingredient, but you want the other stuff too. I was regioncukced by amazon and I didn't see all the options, there are quite a few options for cold-pressed unfilteres with tq content on the bottle. Anything over 2% is decent, over 4% it's starts getting weird but it should be potent and good for the purpose

>>34340360
it says unfiltered/unrefined so should be good

>>34340456
yup, sounds great

Anyone try any other supplements? Apparently Grapeseed Extract is excellent.

>>34341574
Grape seed extract is excellent for... ?

>>34341696
Hemorrhoids! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4061586/

>>34341574
>>34341696
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/grape-seed-extract.html

Not to confuse with GrapeFRUITseed extract:

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/grapefruit_seed_extract.html

I have the latter and i basically an natural antibiotic agent. Antibakteria, Antifungal, Antiviral and so on.

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>>34334805
Hello anons.
I'm 27, and have been on the protocol for under two months, on and off tho, not consistent.
For my diet, the only thing hard giving up is bread, despite knowing its inflammation effects, but definitely going to try cutting it out, especially after reading the updated version.
I'm a fairly healthy person(by society standards), but frankly, it's been hell.
I've had athletes foot my whole life.
No noticeable external improvements so far. I'm 5'8, my dad is taller than me by four inches, and almost certain fungi has set me back physical growth wise.
Reality kicks in everyday out of nowhere. Mood swings are common, when you least expect it.
We are literally experiencing the first levels of hell, must be a nasty reality check for most old people. Makes you question all of the social traps out there.
But on the bright side, it's a no brainer to see how the upsides are limitless, with the potential of gaining demigod like powers that our ancestors experienced.
The spirit is the only true alpha.

>>34339880
I didn't buy the loosh thing until all my problems disappeared. If removing the fung does that then yea .. its probably some evil shit trying to control us

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Any reason not to take resveratrol until maintenance phase?

>>34342070
Eat potatoes when you get a bread craving.

I’m getting a lot of red circles and patched all over my body. They look dry and crusty. I’m only 3 weeks in but they keep getting worse and worse. I don’t know how much longer I will be able to continue the protocol until it gets out of hand. Anything I can take to combat it?

>>34342152
I treat those Topically with oregano oil twice daily until skin looks normal. If it's 100% oeo, blend 50/50 with a carrier oil like bso, pom oil, olive oil.

The fungi is complaining.

>>34339437
The difference is that in the new pdf Nac has been changed to 600mg in the morning and night. Why this change? Should I continue with 1200 in the morning or change to 600? I’m going into my 4th week on the protocol. If I lower the Nac dose to 600 in the morning and night, will that lesson the red spots I’m getting ?

>>34342121

You may regret it because of the side effects. I did it too soon, and had to stop immediately, and do an extra month of Original Protocol, before trying maintenance again.

>>34342308
What side effects? Extra die off?

>>34339810
How big are the drops? Can we get a more accurate measurement?

>>34342304
NAC dosage should honestly be tailored for age, since your body naturally produces NAC. You don't need nearly as much if you're under 40. 600mg-1200mg is good if you're in your 30s. 1800-3600 is if you're over 45.

>>34342316

Yes, extra die off. Also, could not stay awake, and was very weak. Slept basically all day.

Been on NAC for 5+ months... maintenance seems like a myth.

if I hadn't suggested the protocols to other people I know irl who have already moved on to maintenance, i would think this is all BS.

I do have the genetic breaks, red hair and blue eyes. I also used to bake professionally--lots of yeast; so that combo that likely increased my heath issues and is why I'm probably going to be on this a while longer.

>>34335281

I've been watching him/her/xe/xer and they have moved to a different topic. Appears the funding changed directions. They've updated their bot social media. It's like cdf never happened.

Blatantly obvious it was one person now.

>>34342204
Thanks anon. I don’t know if it’s the fungus or an allergic reaction. Another anon said it because of an allergic so I after looking a little into it, some people develop a rash from nac and black seed oil. I guess it has to be one of those that’s giving me a rash but I don’t know which one. It’s getting worse every day. I imagine I will be head to toe cover in them before I make it to the maintenance phase.

>>34342426
If rash's are fungal related, then the rash isn't from an anti--fungal supplement.

After a few months, mine stopped appearing. Been on maintenance for a few months now and haven't seen one since the NAC protocol, but before they stopped they were popping up everywhere. Had to have my wife check on strange places like in and behind my ears, scalp, small of my back... they were everywhere.

>>34342354
Is the dosage for over 45 the same for people in their 60s?
Is 600 good to give to kids, teenagers and people in their early 20s?

Sorry, but nobody has fallen for this yet. You are talking to yourself. Can you get a new hobby?

>>34342457
Who would I find out if the rash is fungal related or if it’s an allergic reaction? I don’t have much or maybe anything I’m allergic too but I have gotten rashes before when taking vitamin B-12 Methyl. Before the protocol I took Now vitamin B-100 and it made me incredibly tired all day and my piss yellow. Idk if vitamin b has ties with Nac

>>34342466
DYOR. Natural NAC production falls off a cliff between the years of 40-45. A lot of longevity protocols have NAC at 3600 or more for people in their 60s.

500-600mg is probably safe for short-term use (2-3 months) in teenagers if they can tolerate it to combat bronchitus or sinus infection, but wouldn't take it longer than that. I wouldn't give it to younger kids though given that it can be pretty harsh on the digestive system.

There have been questions on alphaGPC and what choline to take. I'm going to look more into it's effects. One user reported potential downsides to using it, so I'm sticking with my current stack for now.

I'm using Choline & Inositol (NOW brand) at 500mg combined with Uridine Monoohosphate at 250mg. This is my choline stack which I combine with 10-20mg noopept and 250 to 500mg l-tryptophan.

I've been experimenting with the dosage on Choline, Noopept and Tryptophan to find the right balance.

Keep in mind this is a self testing stack so it's not part of the protocol. It's something that's being tested post maintenance.

I will look up more on aGPC soon, I've been buried in projects.

Here is some data on how Uridine synergizes with choline.

>uridine and choline work synergistically with DHA to increase phosphatidylcholine formation

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33368017/

Here's some info on inositol as part of a nootropic stack.

https://www.braintropic.com/choline-and-inositol/

>>34342520
>A lot of longevity protocols have NAC at 3600 or more for people in their 60s.

Do you have a link or source to these protocols? The issue I'm seeing here is the rate limiting effect of NAC. At a certain point more isn't better, but I'd like to see the rationale they use. Thanks.

>>34342375
Oh I'm sure they'll be back. We've hard short breaks here and there, then they return with a new tactic. Hopefully it's science based this time.

>>34342308
>You may regret it because of the side effects. I did it too soon, and had to stop immediately, and do an extra month of Original Protocol, before trying maintenance again.

Agreeing with K. Peribsen suffers from the FC breaks and when we first started testing niacin and resveratrol, he literally vomited for 2 days. Clear phlegm like Mucous came out for days.

Some people have worse die off on maintenance than the original protocol. There are multiple reasons why you should wait.

Curious question: I am familiar with the work of Harold Kautz Vella: Is he following our progress or is he part of the original CDF Team?

>>34342739
I've heard the name mentioned by other anons, but he is not affiliated. What's he been doing? Now I'm curious.

>>34342520
>Natural NAC production falls off a cliff between the years of 40-45

OK I think I see where the confusion is. I believe you meant to say cysteine, which is biosynthesized by the body.

Is wearing a larger/thicker copper/zinc wire better then a thin one? Basically is covering a larger surface area of your body with it better then covering a smaller area?

>>34342772
>Harold Kautz Vella

He is a German scientist that has actual working knowledge of, and speaks about his experiences with Negative and Positive Black Goo, Morgellons fungus, chemtrails, smart dust, and the fungus fruiting bodies that live in us. Basically the CDF is discussed by him with explicit details on what the multi dimensional Vrill fungus looks like. Discusses asteroid impact fungus, etc.

You will find it fascinating. Please watch when you have time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMCll7dulqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P8ox8SCVcY

>>34342802

Correct! Larger gauge wire conducts more electrons and is better. Round wires are effective, but a flat cuff like bracelet will allow more contact of the metal to skin for greater absorption purposes of copper and zinc for deficiencies.

Both will go well. Round wire is cheaper and looks nice to boot. Cuff or wire...your choice.

>>34342783
No, sorry. I meant glutathione is what falls off a cliff at 40-45, and is naturally bio-synthesized by the body.

>>34342367
>if I hadn't suggested the protocols to other people I know irl who have already moved on to maintenance, i would think this is all BS.

>I do have the genetic breaks, red hair and blue eyes

The berbers are still being chased from the cave. Once you get it under control, the maintenance will keep you on an even keel. That's likely to have a few surprises as well though.

Undoing a lifetime infection can be rough. Hang in there.

So question, I've been doing research on antifungals I can buy to accelerate the protocol.
Is taking fluconazole a good idea? I can get it over-the-counter here in Canada. I've been having some issues with my throat and the protocol seems like it's pointing to candida in my throat.

>>34343378
Fluco is best used separately due to the hit on the liver. It's definitely effective as long as you don't have C. Glabrata. It's fairly ineffective against MDR forms outside of C. Albicans. If you use it, take a break from protocol then jump back on when finished.

Some beneficial additives to speed things along are Turmeric with an added thermogenic like pepper or ginger. Boron supplementation helps.

You can also cycle Berberine for a few days here and there, but not long term. It's effective on the gut but doesn't work systemically like the protocol does.

Adding probiotics is a boost as well. They inhibit fungal growth and process mycotoxins, improve immune response and reduce inflammation.

>>34343451
Already taking turmeric capsules in the morning.
Will definitely get some non-yeast based probiotics.

Fluconazole here comes in 1 150mg pills per pack. They're usually sold to treat vaginal yeast infections but I figured, as a guy, I can use it to accelerate the protocol.
The reason I wanna accelerate is because my diet consists of mainly carbohydrates (rice, potatoes, etc).

A quick note on Niacin.

If someone were to ask me what is the most beneficial form, the answer would be pure Niacin (nicotinic acid) in flush form.

We did move to timed or extended release to keep the levels up longer, but if you can tolerate flush form consider using it a few times weekly. The flush form resets and immediately replenishes the nad pool, so it does have unique benefit. Combining both forms is ideal if you don't mind a flush occasionally.

Or, just use major brand slo niacin because it randomly flushes anyways. Lol

Nigella sativa is native to Southern Europe but has a widely naturalized in the subtropical belt spanning from Romania to Myanmar. However, cultivation seems to be centered around arid, Mediterranean-type climates with dry summers and winters, especially in Turkey, Egypt, Israel etc. There are also outliers like India and Ethiopia. Despite the monsoonal climate of India, with its unpredictable drought-torrent cycles, BSO is so much prized that they consider cultivating it, albeit in suitable microclimates only. Ethiopia has a highland tropical climate where the climate is temperate but the seasonal variation is minor and the precipitation equally distributed.

I also found out that Arabian BSO brands get their seeds from Yemen where the climate is somewhat moister but still subject to the monsoonal influence of the Indian Ocean. Here the BSO is notorious for having a very strong turpentine taste.

Apparently, specific conditions seem to contribute to greater concentrations of aromatic compounds. So it isn't hard to see that some regions will produce better BSO than the other. However, we need more information than this to help people choose their BSO. All the pharmacologically significant compounds (the most important being thymoquinone/dithymoquinone/thymol) are found in the volatile component of BSO. Structurally they are terpenes, which are aromatic compounds. Does that mean that one can do a taste/smell test to judge the efficacy of a given BSO brand? This is where I'm not so sure. There are still more compounds that contribute to the taste and aroma, like phenolics, coumarins (vanilla scent) and alkaloids (bitter.) What is TQ supposed to smell like anyway? I'm approaching scientifically esoteric territory which only an expert can elucidate.

>>34343378
I was wondering the same. From my understanding flucozalone strongly inhibits fungal growth. It's also heavy on liver and usually not used for more than a week and still can be dangerous. I guess it's more suited for people who have big fungal infection flare ups while protocol can be used long term even if you feel healthy with virtually no bad side effects. This way you will slowly get rid of fungi even deep into you as it's not possible to do that in a week even with strong drugs. There are other antifungal drugs that might be worth a try, but probably you need to be careful to not introduce too much die off as mycotoxins are no joke and often people are treated with antifungals in hospital so they can be observed. If you have some clear visible symptoms (like white tongue) I guess it would make sense to start with drugs that doctor prescribes and then continue with protocol.
I have found r/candida subredit when looking about antifungal drugs and maybe you can check there too. To my surprise all the familliar terms - die off, biofilm and biofilm busters, oregano oil etc are used by them too. I dont know why it was surprise to me because it's perfectly normal but I knew nothing about fungal infections before cdf. They are also trying all kind of things and you could find some ideas there, but I am just sticking to protocol as it's simple and it works.

>>34342923
Probably stupid question, my knowledge is low here and then I immediately feel dumb and naive, but is there any limit to the electric/ion flow of the zinc/copper, like if the copper oxidizes or simply when you've been wearing it a while? I mean, the metallurgical molecular makeup stays the same, so the ele truc properties too, right? Even when oxidized and/or having been in skin contact long?

>>34343451
>>34343497

Black pepper (piperine) inreases tumeric absorption twentyfold, it's almost a must to take them together

>>34343560
Some brands mix them because apparently that can even have a synergic effect. I will be testing nicotinamide with added 2% flush niacin when I get on maintenance

Another one; I've bought two air purifiers (carbon/hepa/uv-c) for living and sleeping room. I read everywhere it's recommended to keep them on 24/7. I have some reservations about that; with all windows etc closed, after a while the air is clean, right? Although dust mites will keep shitting and skin will keep peeling. But you'd think fungal spores etc would be irradicated. With windows/air inlets opened, surely spores and pollution will get in and I'd understand keeping the purifier on 24/7 on would be more logical. I do sleep with my window slightly open all year long...
But come on; I like my outdoor air! Sounds stupid now we all know what fungal spores are everywhere always but it's crazy to stay holed up saved by machines. Some confidence in a protocol-repaired body should be.

So I'm thinking; I'm having the purifiers on a few hours to get all room air through them, cold still and air inlets/windows are closed. In summer stuff is opened all the time, pollen is not much of my concern, so I'd think about the same routine. Late summer/autumn mycelia are starting to fruit, fungal spores abound, a 24/7 routine would make more sense.

I don't live in a too big city, there is pollution but it's no metropolitan city kind of air quality.

How are y'all thinking about all this?

>>34343560
Any downsides to taking the flush form daily?
I take the extended form at morning and purw niacin at evening, before going to gym

Currently on day 3 of the protocol without NAC because poorfag. Will get it tomorrow. When I was buying OO, asked the sales person whether people buy OO and NAC together to which she replied that as of lately a lot of people have been prescribed NAC from doctors. Also told that NAC shouldn't be taken together with OO because of some reaction with fats and one canceling out the other.
As for the effects: yesterday it was extremely hard to concentrate and I felt as supreme ADHD candidate. Some old memories and retard stuff I've done came to surface. Better recognition of retarded patterns. Smell has improved. When I walked by the bread isle, the smell of bread seemed to give my nostrils inflammation. Could easily smell the sweat of the cashier. Later on went to my poorfag place and someone had sprayed their perfume which made both my throat and nostrils seem inflamed. The whole day my brain was swollen. Now upon waking up it seems normal but I took OO and BSO not more than 30 minutes ago and I feel the brain becoming inflamed again.
On the plus side, dreams have become extremely vivid. The night before yesterday I had some nightmare followed by a dream where I fought and punched ex's brother. Today saw one of our mutual post a story with a pic closely resembling the colours and dynamics of my punch. I am quite used to dreaming and seeing some of my dreams coming into life (not deja vu, I have these dreams written down). The nightmare could be because of the friends I met the night before. I sense that they are evolved and come test me in dreams and waking life. Got a bit spooked by one friend knowing what's on my phone without any tech. Just knew
Tonight dreamt about making ostriches go into mountains and huge rabbits coming my way. One of them told me something and went away. Later on I was in some mexican looking city with Indians as my helpers of getting around. One guided me to native American shaman who told that I have unreleased potential and that I must go to

>>34344444
Oh, I got the digs..okay. been seeing loads of 444 4444 lately
I must go to a city that isn't a city.
Remember that I told that I am being tested all the time. In waking life some annoying girls tested me about their preconceived theories about an ex.
Later in the dream I saw a meme about "will this retard fuck a 10kg burger"...so I went away to get a burger. Later on a friend appeared to whom I had traveled and refused to have seggs with. In the dream we started having seggs and then she asked to use a toy I had bought for ex to which I thought that, I can't give it to her...it's not meant for her.

I know this is hard to grasp because I have excluded many important details and lack structure...but from the friend testing thing. I was put into a dream where I was on a porn film set where the last girl prolapsed her vag and green oozing stuff came out. When those friends were testing me, one of them told something about "yeah, just put some liquid on it and it will become green".
Maybe I am just in my head too much bit the whole night some of them seemed to show some telepathy tricks

>>34342308
>>34342674
It really depends on the individual I think and what state you're starting from.

I took pterostilbene today on my fasting day. So far, so good. I'm over one month into the protocol, and have been doing intermittent fasting and keto as well. Only side effect of the pterostilbene today is that it made me a little sleepy and clouded my mind a bit in the afternoon, but I think this is pretty typical of resveratrol and pterostilbene. I've experienced all of the die off symptoms during the first two and half weeks of the protocol and I've been upping my OOE dosage.

I won't take anymore pterostilbene except on my full 36 hour fasts, and see how it goes. I plan on taking NR or NMN eventually, but will wait until at least 2 months and 3 weeks with no die-off symptoms. Want to get all of the fungi and microtumors suppressed before I take any compounds that can feed them.

>>34344488
It seems that they've also tapped into AI. Anytime I send out a stronger thought on ex, Reddit TF notification with a reply to my though comes through. Now when typing this, "love you sea daddy came through". Maybe they are just messing with me, which I suspect is happening too

>>34344444
Oh and as for paranormal stuff, intuition seems to be off while starting the protocol. Last time I dewormed, I was naturally psychic. Knew when something is approaching me and what's around the corner without looking, coin flips were 100% accuracy, slot machines have the outcome I ask them to, ask for things and they appear, could move things and people to some extent.
Now it has gone away after eating apples from a supermarket trash, eating unhealthy and living dirty. Have to get clean soon
Although, manifestations have moved up a notch

>>34344444
Could NAC being prescribed be related to recent pdf's? Forgot to include this part

>>34344488
>>34344444
I am a bit scared. One of them told that they rule the dream realm. I suspect that those tests are to see what lies in my subconscious and a way for me to test and control it. When I had dewormed, the idea of changing my subconscious seemed easier. Will see what comes out of this after I have been on the protocol for longer

>>34344522
It's probably being prescribed along with quercitin and couple of other things as part of a covid vaccine injury / long-covid protocol.

a thing I noticed about dreaming (9 months into protocol, 3 months maintenance plus extras) is how the scenery changed.

Before when I dreamed about a house, 'my' home, it was mainly the place where I grew up, sometimes the two houses I've called my home.

Last few weeks at least, my growing up house doesn't appear hardly ever anymore...mind you, after I kicked out unwanted visitors and prevented those to get in.... Now I find myself in unfamiliar houses, sometimes with some elements of known homes, and I'm still challenged by intruders... Which I hardly ever let in, or when they get in and I notice their unwanted behaviour I kick them out... And they try all the tactics, tapping into (hidden) desires, hobby's, wants... They never, or hardly ever, succeed, if they do it's to a meager degree and they're dealt with later (in next dreams, or semi-waking visualisations, or by ramping up the physical protocol a bit for a day).

>>34344655
Nice digs and a bit of a synchronicity. The last time I saw the ex in my dream, I was in my childhood home. Everything was covered in black mist. This was also on the first night of starting the protocol. The second night was dark as hell up until I fought her brother. The background was white. My punch was slow-motion and filled with colour. Tonight's dream was extremely colourful and happy.
Thank you for your sharing this!
>>34344542
Interesting. Is there a way of reducing Vax damage? It seems that my heart and endurance has gone downhill after the obligatory vaxx for university. Or could it be sedentary life and IV amphetamine I lived on for about two years

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>>34344697
The punch seemed like this

>>34344697
NAC, quercitin.

Once you get to the maintenance stage of the NAC protocol (you've purged yourself of fungal overgrowth), you can consider adding CoQ10 or PQQ+CoQ10 for heart health. If you're under 40, just adding CoQ10 is probably sufficient. A lot of NAD+ stacks usually combine NR or NMN with TMG, Quercitin, Berberine/Metformin, Resveratrol/Pterostilbene and PQQ+CoQ10.

>>34344284
I have an air purifier due to a very likely mold problem behind my wallpaper.
I have it connected to a timer and let it run four times a day for 1h which exchanges the air in the room two times. I see it as an addition to just opening the window and I don't let it run with open windows. In the instructions it says to use it after closing windows and not with open windows.

>>34344769
Thank you! I am screenshotting this
Any dietary recommendations? I am mostly loving off of rolled oats with bananas, curcumin and cinnamon. Occasional meal of eggs, beetroot and sauerkraut. Sometimes go to Hindu kitchen for some soul food
Still eating occasional candy as I was quite used to it but the physical cravings have gone down. Now only mental remain. I suppose this will resolve once I am bit further in protocol

A quick note on brain health. As you get older, sleep becomes more important.

During our deep sleep cycle is when we do much of the maintenance required for the brain. The protocol will improve the efficiency of this process by correcting reactive glia, but good sleep is critical.

An example is from the pdf under the brain diseases section. A relationship was shown between 3 different diseases and beta amyloid plaquing.

During sleep is when the body clears this metabolic waste product. Any form of sleep deprivation turns off this process automatically and increases amyloid deposits on the brain. Not getting enough sleep causes a neurotoxic and inflammatory response.

We all have things that keep us up at night, but for brain function try to get as much restful sleep as possible, especially if you are older.

>>34339346
>>34339357
>>34339437
>>34339464
thanks guys your input is very much appreciated.

Exodus 12:8
They shall eat the flesh that same night, roasted with fire, and they shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

Numbers 9:11
VerseConcepts
In the second month on the fourteenth day at twilight, they shall observe it; they shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

>>34344822
Thanks, resonates quite nicely with my ideas.

Thing is open windows let fungi spores in (well, with every stream of fresh air that'll happen, but more with windows open duh), so purifying the air again after closing windows sounds sane.

>>34344898
had a bad night, sc?

I notice I need less sleep now, I get up more easily earlier which makes my day more worthwhile, so I'm fine with that. I'm no evening person.

>>34344955
Had to get up earlier than normal for a work job. Figured it was a good time to talk about brain health. Lol

>>34338073
If anything, the last two-three years have shown us that 90% of doctors are retarded and can't be trusted. They have "learned" from old books from the usual suspects and will not change their ways in the face of new knowledge. Glorified drug salespeople. There are a few that go against this but as usual, are ridiculed/cancelled/imprisoned/killed...

>>34344971
Whahaha, good luck to your work and brain health today :)

What is the pomegrenate extract for?

And why do you guys keep on going? Ive been on the protocol for months now and it helped with most body related issues.
It wont fix my mental illness, social anxiety/retardation, slow brain and suicidal tendencies tho. Im a weird social outcast that lives a double live. People at work like me and think im an outgoing dude who likes to have fun. Atleast thats what I get from them. Always try to include my in their stupid conversations. The old guys at work roll their eyes when my female coworkers flirt and laugh with me. I can feel their envy.
But as soon as I come home I start rotting. This weekend I planned my suicide again. I lied in bed for more than 30 hours.
My biggest problem is this feeling in my solar plexus like in about to throw up. I HATE talking to people and I HATE it when women flirt with me or talk about sex. This shit is so foreign to me. I wont ever be good enough to please you with my thin cock so just stfu. This 40 something latina bitch rubbed my chest and stomach multiple times in a row, in the most suggestive way, while I stood there daydreaming. I know its just her playful way of flirting, but I cant believe how boring I am. I didnt even react and said something funny. What should I have said anyways? Im to fucking retarded for this normie world. I hate my voice and my stupid ass speech patterns. I sound like a fucking autist on voice recordings.
I dont know what to do I tried EVERYTHING besides a therapist. Exposure therapy. Different friend groups from drug dealers to boring ass nerds, from natives to foreigners, it doesnt matter. Nothing makes me happy. I hate talking to extroverted happy people it makes me so fucking sad for some reason. I score high IQ in tests but am to retarded to fix my problems.
I. Have. No. Fucking. Energy. Im tired all the fucking time. Not a single friend or gf for the past 3 years. Shouldnt have went no contact with everybody but yeah, to late I guess.
Rambling over

>>34345291
Your rambling is off-topic but let me address it. What is even your fucking problem? So many words. You talk like a woman.
I think you are a sad boi because you are not a man, but talk and act like a woman. You don't know what you want, you try to force yourself with people you dislike, denying yourself, and you look for people to give you meaning when you have to find your own. Have you ever asked yourself what *you* want and not what others expect from you or what is considered normal? Why do you care about your dick size, your voice or whatever? You can't change it but there are tons of people who just don't give a fuck about that, and you find those people if you also don't give a fuck and just be yourself (i fucking mean it). You are insecure about pleasing people who can only be pleased by denying yourself.
No magic supplement is going to help you here except for maybe some testosterone boosting stuff to give you more confidence. To like yourself and be yourself, ask yourself what you like doing, who you want to be and if you are unsure ask yourself what you were like as a child. Then work towards that. You have to be the creator of your own world, that is the essence of what a man is, where "being yourself" is, where confidence comes from and where happiness lies. If you do not act according to this law of nature, nature will smite you with depression. Also, remember that confidence is applied experience, and experience is constant trying and failing that eventually became success, so get your fucking ass up.

>>34341574

I've been using Grapeseed extract for several years. Started it to treat ADHD symptoms. Helped with those, but not much with fungal infections overall, it would seem. I would say that either grapeseed has very narrow spectrum of action or it's just not strong enough to fully kill infections. Might be a nice "booster" to a stack though, I'm still taking mine

>>34341709

Definitely did NOT help my hemorrhoids.

>>34342070

I had hell with athletes foot and jock itch. The protocol with good discipline helped and is an important piece, but what really made a difference was red light/near-ir therapy, recommend to me by several in these threads.

There were specific wavelengths recommended, don't recall which, but I got a little cheap $44 unit from amazon

Wolezek Red Light Therapy Lamp... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NBGS72W

And that thing has been like a fn space laser on my infections. I have a bad one the width of a fist on the back of my head and when I hit it with the red light, that thing swells up huge. For a while i would feel anger when that would happen. Not mine. Gross.

Tried an experiment on the feet - treated the left with red light but not the right.

After 2-3 days left was hardly itchy anymore right was still itchy. What I didn't expect was the change in joint function. Left foot feels smooth and fluid while right feels mildly inflamed and sore. I had just never noticed before until the problem had been removed and I had a comparison.

It's been a week+ since that treatment and I think I need another as things are starting to get a little itchy down there again, but a fraction of what it was. I fully expect the red light to resolve this issue. If I had been using the red light with as much discipline as I am using the protocol this part would probably be over by now.

Try it!

>>34335643
Glad to hear it's going so well!

>>34342375
It's Lue Elizondo

>>34342502
Try putting OO and BSO (someone higher up in thread posted mix) on one of the rashes and see what happens.

>>34342674
> clear phlegm-like mucous

This happened to me! I had a massive amount come out when I started the OO rinse.

All 8 days on the protocol I have black stools. And in general I want to poop more often than usual. This is fine? Googling says it can be internal bleeding. But I don't feel tired, have more and more energy and feel better in general every day.

>>34345538
>OO rinse
What is that?

>>34344284

I run purifiers in most of my rooms.

I have a Molekule in the office, which is good at being quiet (and at being expensive.) It has UV.

I have a germ guardian in my smoking room, that's like $99 on amz and prob good for most people, but runs a little loud. Also has UV.

Dyson space heaters have purifiers built in with apps that track air quality. Also quiet. And expensive. No UV that I am aware of.

>>34345578
Oregano oil mouth rinse, Zane Hellas.

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>>34345375
Yeah I agree with everything. Its no use complaining. If I suppress my self hate Im going to explode tho, just like last year when I got fired again for getting into my bosses face. This shit feeling in my stomach i have 24/7 eats me alive.

>>34345786
work out till you can't move anymore and get regular sleep

>>34342923
By that logic wouldn’t wearing a sheet that covers half of your forearm be better?
If your already taking a zinc/copper vitamin is there a reason to wear the wires?

>>34344228

You really only need round wires to complete the task of moving electrons in your body and keeping your energy flowing, instead of being stagnant. If you like cuffs, that is a choice you make based on aesthetics.

Any copper oxidizes because of oxygen, and a reaction with the acid on the skin or atmosphere. If it turns your skin green, that means the body dissolved the portion of copper it needed, and will absorb that within hours. The body will only absorb what it needs (intelligent design)

>>34345456
That it help with pain?

>>34346010
>By that logic wouldn’t wearing a sheet that covers half of your forearm be better?
>If your already taking a zinc/copper vitamin is there a reason to wear the wires?

No. You do not need that. Your body only will dissolve what it needs to be healthy or correct imbalances. Taking a copper supplement does not necessarily mean your body dissolved it or assimilated it.

The wires serve 2 purposes. One it allows energy to flow in your galvanic cell body. Two, it can absorb through the skin ONLY what it needs, perfectly. Too much copper is a waste.

If you want a large cuff, that is up to you for aesthetics.

Off topic but Is hearing music at different frequencies like 432 better then the standard frequency being used today? Do other frequencies offer health benefits? Is there any truth to the claims people are making about frequencies?

>>34346260

If you don't like copper wire on the right wrist, you can use a gold or silver wire/bracelet if you can afford, but still the body is very greedy for copper with any deficiency, and will still turn your skin green or black as it leeches the copper out of the gold or silver jewelry.

It does not stop the flow of electrons if oxidized, but you can clean your copper/gold as needed.

>>34346331

>Off topic but Is hearing music at different frequencies like 432 better then the standard frequency being used today?
Yes.

Do other frequencies offer health benefits? Yes.

Is there any truth to the claims people are making about frequencies?
Yes.

>>34345291
What is your diet like?

Im 9 months into the protocol. Three months in I became lucid in a dream where I was talking to this girl. She was trying to get me to pay for her food. The more I looked into her eyes, I realized this was not a human, or a nice entity. Something in its eyes and face shifted and I felt bad vibes and woke up immediately.

A few weeks later, I have another dream with the same entity. I kept thinking it was random. Now that I think about it, I think it was the fungus itself. Apologies for the long post.

I fell asleep and felt my consciousness leave my body. I remember thinking in that moment that I had died. I was pulled through this wormhole and this thing was shape shifting into my boyfriend - except it was him old, young, and different versions of him I’d never seen before. It was like another dimension. I remember feeling confused, and this thing could control my emotions. I knew it wasn’t my boyfriend and something pretending to be him but it was making me feel love and I still hugged it and fell down a wormhole again.

When I would leave my room which had a light on, I would go into this dark place which was like a void. It would leave me alone when I was in the void.

Anyway, this thing shape shifted into this hot black girl and made me feel aroused. I remember staring at her skin thinking it looked so real and I thought “let’s have sex” It said “yes, yes, let’s have sex”and then it turned into the original entity I had seen in my previous dreams which had these demon like black eyes. It took the form of man on top and woman on bottom. It felt like it was pretending to be human and very AI. I was repulsed. It released this blonde girl that was attached to it from under my bed. She had something on her neck that connected to it like a tube and she was on her knees crawling and bleeding, like she was feeding this thing. I went back to the black void until I woke up.

>>34345663
Get that toxic shit outta here.
/biz/raelis not welcome.

>>34347359
someone linked this thread in a /biz/ general
>>34346601
got me wondering about how warriors/lords would wear jewelry/talismans etc.

>>34342739
isn’t he dead?

Are there any other cool underrated supplements? Anyone take Green Tea capsules?

>>34344444
Where is bread isle? I've never heard of this place.

>>34347492

I really don't know.

>>34346294
NTA

I have read and experienced that it does help with pain.

>>34342901
Wait what … interdimensional space spider

>>34347772
yup.

>>34347797
I have heard this before. I dont subscribe to that framework of thinking.

>>34347772

Wait until you see the pictures he shows in those videos, of the Morgellons fungus fruiting body that develops in your intestines. It looks insect like with an eye....EXACTLY like the stuff we leave in our toilets while on the protocol.

God I hope its not true.

>>34347818
Me too.

>>34347808

It might be better that you don't. Its definitely X

>>34347643
Yeah, it's right behind bread isle and two rows further

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>>34347882
How can bread isle be behind bread isle? Are there two bread isles? Is it in the tropics?

>>34344516
What dewormer improved your intuition? I'm desperately trying to fix my mental/psychic block but oregano oil isn't working for that sadly, even high dose Now brand carvacrol isn't helping.

I was right

https://youtu.be/Aw16LPVnNco

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What do you guys think about this protocol?

Chronic Illness Protocol (Lyme, Mold, Candida, Parasites, Anhedonia; Gut Repair & Detox)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OZbImJpu1fLD3nOsFANnpIrzI8AySGfk/edit

Any ideas in this document that may add to either the Cosmic Death Fungus protocol or understanding?

>>34345456
The one you recommend has gotten a bad review
https://gembared.com/blogs/musings/wolezek-red-light-therapy-bulb-review-from-amazon-incorrect-intensity-high-emf-high-flicker

The hooga is better

https://gembared.com/blogs/musings/the-best-red-light-therapy-bulbs-on-amazon-ultimate-review

Thanks for telling us about red light. I didn’t know what it was until you mentioned it

>>34347980
There's none. I wasn't in the store.
It's in the Mt.GasLit

I have problems with my sinuses that come and go, constant tinnitus, and I've had vestibular neuritis (inner ear infection causing vertigo) twice. Any chance these things are CDF related? I'm very anxious about putting things into my body and so I usually don't mess around with supplements and alternative medicine, but no doctor has been able to give me any answers so far, so here I am.

>>34348017
Ermmm...please don't shit on me...I used turpentine that time...and high doses of iodine topped with much emotional devotion to a relationship I fucked up. The abilities improved after I accidentally awoke koomdalini. It was at a moment where I had decided to leave my family and started to think on what spiritual path I want to take. I was guided and given the green light to pursue but I like a retard returned to material pursuits.
Now the powers have subsided. I guess they will come back once I get back on that path

>>34349033

Both of those things can permanently fuck people up. Better left unsaid.

>>34348911
Sounds like old me. You're not comfortable with the idea of this protocol yet, but you haven't found anything that actually hits the source of your issues, just a bunch if crappy bandages that come with not so fun side effects.

What I did and am suggesting for you to do, is to begin researching starting with the pdf. Read any studies cited that you feel are relevant to the protocol or to your specific issues. The archives provide some of the same information, but the conversations will sometimes offer up something not included in the pdf or the cited articles.

I haven't made it out of the woods yet, but I feel better on the protocol and am looking forward to being healthy again.

The definition of an extinction level event.

>Mass fungus infections that drive populations worldwide to near-collapse don’t just occur in science fiction. Chytridiomycosis, the worst vertebrate disease in recorded history, has already wiped out hundreds of species of amphibians around the world. Due to a large part to this fungal disease, 41% of amphibians are currently threatened with extinction.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230316/Highly-contagious-killer-fungus-likely-to-spread-and-cause-epizootics-across-Africa.aspx

>>34349168
Yeah, if I had followed the path, I'd be much more mentally stable.
Not that I was stable before but much more stable as one of the people on the way suggested places where I should go to work on my body, mind and spirit. Of course I delayed so much that I lost my way. Better get back soon or work with what I have.
As for the turpentine, it's extremely harsh. If done, it should be done extreeeeeemely careful. I'd stop when my urine started to smell sweet as it is one of the signs of poisoning. I collected it and it quickly formed patches of mold. I collected a sample without turpentine and it didn't form any mold. It works but I am a bit hesitant to try it again so i will try this more easy protocol
Oh, if you start zeolite, I suggest to save up money beforehand for all the fillings that will fall out

>>34349185
Have you tried putting BSO in your nostrils?

>>34349504
Yeah. With and without OO. I also like some of the nasal sprays discussed here, red light therapy and facial lymph massage.

>>34349272
Hmmm, need to rethink natural landscapes, fertilizers and pest control.

>>34334805
Is it ok if I use this stuff for my black seed oil? Says 2 Pills is 2,000 mg of Black Cumin Seed Oil so Is it ok if I use this stuff for my black seed oil? Says 2 Pills is 2,000 mg of Black Cumin Seed Oil so I’d need to take 4 in the morning and 4 at night. It also says it’s cold pressed.

https://www.iherb.com/pr/nature-s-life-black-seed-oil-1000-mg-90-softgels/78408#overview

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Has anyone tried picrel? They have a 2 bottle deal (16oz bottles) for $49, so it ends up being the same cost as horbaach or sva. The reviews mentioned the oil is very dark and has sediment.

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OK I just read through reviews and someone posted this pic. This looks absolutely on point.

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I have come across this Australian brand of black seed oil. I have never tried it. Maybe an Oceanian Anon can test it out.

Undiluted, Cold Pressed Black Seed Oil - 100mL | Sehha
Regular price: $37.50 AUD
https://sehha.com.au/

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Has anybody heard of NAC Ethyl Ester (NACET)? Any benefit beyond regular NAC?

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>>34351633

>>34351388
Too much sediment is not necessarily a good sign. Its a confirmation its unfiltered but too much waste is a sign of greedy bottling process, the black cake doesn't actually have much volatile oils and keeping it in brings the overall quality down. It's way better than anything thats filtered, but I wouldn't call that on point exactly. I'd still go for it tho if you have no production/active content guarantees from other sources

>>34352392
It's pretty rare to see a product like that for that price. I'll give it a shot and report back on how it goes.

>>34349337
>As for the turpentine, it's extremely harsh. If done, it should be done extreeeeeemely careful.

There is no strictly beneficial level, because it's guaranteed to cause mass inflammation similar to MMS. Turpentine causes a strong oxidative reaction, which is why the studies on ingestion show ulcers in the GI and various parts of the body. Anything that causes inflammation unrelated to natural immune response is unhealthy.

>>34348062
I'd look at it but it's a Google docs link. Repost it here and I'll give whatever feedback I can.

>>34347340
Seems similar to a dream confrontation I had in the past. It kept getting passed off and the floor would break, I'd fall to somewhere else and it would try again. I think it was trying to warn or scare me to stop at the time.

Now that we know it infects multiple types of glia it makes sense that it can communicate through dreams. What I assumed were its personality traits definitely come out in confrontations.

In my opinion it is a lower form of life spiritually, which is why it acts as a Parasite. The range of emotions and behaviors it triggers are primarily basal and negative.

>>34336991
What does the DMT combo consist of? I mustve missed that...

>>34338553
Which doc did you watch? Would you recommend? Planning on diving into this but I see there are a few hour+ videos on it.

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The day of forced antifungals can’t come too soon

>>34354069
Wow. That's a terrible idea lol.

The rest of the protocol is pretty straightforward to me, but how am I meant to brush my teeth with fennel oil? Am I supposed to dilute it with a carrier oil or just use it straight up?

>>34353538
>similar to MMS
i beg to differ. MMS does not cause inflammation(on an unhealthy level) . It is an oxidizer which gets rid of germs in your body while enriching your body with oxygen.

Oh and the normal MMS is outdated. Indeed because it had some side effects. CDS is the newest "invention".
https://andreaskalcker.com/en/cds-clo2.html

I used it many times against infections/flu, etc. and it works very well. Interestingly Humble himself claimed (cant fing the source right now, but it was a comment on athletes foot) that some fungi are resistant and in few cases even flourishing on Chlorine Dioxide. He suggested some different kind of treatment then.

So i personally take this only in specific cases and if its needed,not on the regular. And especially not with some strong anti-inflammatory stuff like OO, Vit C, NAC, etc.. because they will cancel each other out.

So if someone reads this do not comibine MMS/CDS with this protocol. Do this protocol first. And maybe if some infection do not want to go away, look into CDS/MMS.

I am using the protocol since 22th January with positiv effects. Just to be clear that i am not against it.

>>34354592
Just 2 drops on your toothpaste when you brush

>>34354592
First times you can feel burn in your mouth, but after 2-3 days using FSEO becomes totally neutral. I'm 10 days on protocol and last 3 days I use FSEO even without toothpaste in the evening, just couple of drops on toothbrush and scrub my white-plagued tongue with it.

>>34353490
I've heard that black BSO is made in a bad, unclean way and is sort of like used oil from the frier. Unhealthy and harmful for liver, unlike yellowish-brown BSO. In Egypt, they mainly sell this black oil, for example.

I read about this on some forum - this was said by an employee of a factory for the production of quality BSO in Egypt. She said that in this way they deceive tourists and sell them a low-quality product, while their factory produces a high-quality and purified one.

I don’t know whether to believe it or not, but we all know about the attitude of the Egyptians towards tourists. And my first bottle of BSO from Egypt 10 years ago was pure black.

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Anyone here improve their eyesight? My eyesight is wobbly for some reason, I wish I knew what was causing it. I've been taking Milk Thistle, Beta Carotene, etc hoping to improve it.

So you're ideally supposed to get a balanced (1:1) ratio of omega-3 and omega-6. Omega-3 is anti-inflammatory and omega-6 is inflammatory. Most people already have a much higher intake of omega-6, largely from sneed oils in their diets, which is why inflammatory diseases (like some of the ones attributed to CDF In this thread) are so common in first-worlders.
Just one teaspoon of black sneed oil contains 3.76 grams of omega-6 fatty acids, and this protocol has you taking two a day. It also has barely any omega-3, the ratio is 1:7.7. The high-end recommendation for omega-3 fish oil supplements provides 1.5g of omega-3, not nearly enough to counter the high dose of sneed oil you're introducing to your diet already overabundant in omega-6. Interestingly black sneed oil is the only supplement the maintainance protocol has you taking on your "off week."
So what's going on here? Am I missing something, or is this thread a psy-op to get anons to poison themselves with inflamatory sneed oil?

>>34354035

The World's Most Mysterious Manuscript - The Voynich Code - True Story Documentary Channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6T9Y6HTzg

>>34354935
You should really work on your programming skills. Your bot makes some critical typing errors.

>>34354935
Pretty weak argument considering the oil itself is anti inflammatory, Oregano and nac is anti inflammatory, and literally nobody has reported inflammation from black seed.

>>34354777
>we all know about the attitude of the Egyptians towards tourists

Such number and such a low EQ/IQ statement. Surly you should reflect on your thinking pattern.
Little hint: Absolute statements, especially like your and in addition two in one sentence is a clear sign that your mind is completely clouded with negative energy. Hopefully the protocol can help you on that.

Oh and if you think: Well, this post is not quite on the light side either, then you are right. I am angry right now. Because this kind of thinking is one of main reasons why we have this shitshow and the last 3 years were quite straining on my empathy. So i have only few of that left. And righteous anger is also a nice thing to explore.
Oh don't get me wrong. I am not angry at you as a person. I am angry at the way of thinking. This dull, twisted,unconscious way of thinking.

>>34354935
>So what's going on here? Am I missing something

Yes. You are missing the tested and verified effect of the oil, which is a potent anti-inflammatory.

>The essential oil exhibited strong ex vivo antioxidant activity, inhibiting DCFH oxidation with an IC50 of 1.0µg/ml, and high anti-inflammatory activity, inhibiting NO radical excretion with an IC50 value of 6.3µg/ml.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0254629909003184
>or is this thread a psy-op to get anons to poison themselves with inflamatory sneed oil?

Well it's a proven anti-inflammatory so we'll skip that part. As far as poison, we'll it's been proven to be safe and non-toxic in both human and animal trials.
See: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/34081588/#34081600

Additionally, you can read the safety and toxicity section in the pdf, which shows it is safe, non toxic, and anti inflammatory.

>>34354777
Ideally only the seeds are imported and the pressing is done by a local company or a farmer. BSO can only last 3-4 months and should be refrigarated this entire time so it's not a good product to ship internationally in oil form

>>34355913
Dude go to that shithole and buy stuff. You will produce many laughs to them as a gullible "spiritual" retard that they made money of. There are 0% of people who will not try to scam you, the "good ones" maybe just wont be as greedy. Literally.
What he said it's not even generalization just a simple fact. For others, dont even try to buy bso in egypt it's very unlikely you will get a good deal.

Are pullulan capsules safe? The best kind of niacin I can get is packed in those, but they come from Aureobasidium pullulans fermentation. Apparently gut bacteria eats it and it has some probiotic properties

>>34354777
>I've heard that black BSO is made in a bad, unclean way and is sort of like used oil from the frier. Unhealthy and harmful for liver, unlike yellowish-brown BSO. In Egypt, they mainly sell this black oil, for example.

That's definitely not correct. The brands that feature unfiltered with sediment also have high TQ content. The one I was interested in in above posts claim 1.5% or higher. 1% is a good baseline and average BSO will have less than that.

It's never going to be harmful to the liver when used at normal dosages. The blacker it is, the more sediment it has.

My experience here is that sediment is a definite plus. Before I ever did protocol or tried BSO I was making my own tea with it for years. I would grind the seeds in a coffee grinder, dump hot (not boiling) water on it with a teaspoon of honey and let it soak for 10 minutes. Then I'd drink that and swallow the sediment at the bottom. This gave a near instant effect and was very pleasant. At the same time, the people that rave over additional effect from the oils (sex drive, energy) are using unfiltered with sediment.

Either way, A dark amber is sufficient if you don't like the sediment. If it's lighter than dark amber it may be cut with other oil or the extraction was ineffective.

SVA is a dark amber and tests around 1%, higher when you include dhtq.

You can see the difference in color vs. Potency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ictROHDFSP0

SO what's the verdict on caprylic acid? Is it good to add to the protocol?

>>34356054
Greetings. I have been chosen to show the flaws in your work. I have begun compiling all of your statements and I am halfway through your pdf. Who represents this work so that we may speak directly?

I have an r&d background so I'll be using studies. I'm aware of how you format rebuttals here and will respond in kind.

>>34335643

Taking a second from nose-down mode to respond here. My wife switched to NAD+ because it was easier on her system, slightly different effect - there was a study that just came up recently showing niacin corrects NAD+ issues though.

Stick with liposomal NAD+ if you go that route as it seems to be the best absorption vs infusions (meh on that personally). And you're solid with DYOR related to the breastfeeding thing so if you turn anything up about NAD+ and that let us all know.

Here's the niacin article.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S155041312030190X - Niacin Cures Systemic NAD+ Deficiency and Improves Muscle Performance in Adult-Onset Mitochondrial Myopathy

>>34356717
>Orion
Sneed

>>34356717
>Greetings. I have been chosen to show the flaws in your work. I have begun compiling all of your statements and I am halfway through your pdf. Who represents this work so that we may speak directly?

Lol. Good luck.

First you have to get past me. Consider me the friendly and well versed gatekeeper. If you somehow manage to stump me, then the big guns might come in and respond. Take your time preparing yourself. Welcome to CDF.

>>34356767
Dude, he named himself Orion.
I think the parasitic Archons are finally starting to take notice of you guys.
Be careful.
Also, can you answer my question here>>34356647

>>34356647

I have coconut oil in my coffee daily. Along with rosemary and xylitol. Antifung morning brew kek.

>>34356789
>Dude, he named himself Orion.
I think the parasitic Archons are finally starting to take notice of you guys.
Be careful.

Always careful, always prepared. Not worried.

Caprylic can be a good additive if you have it available. Inhibits Albicans hyphal growth and does a good job on biofilm.

>>34356854
hey can you please comment on this? Sorry I repeated myself phone posting is hard.
>>34350868

>>34354935

God you're so full of shit.

>>34356890
>hey can you please comment on this? Sorry I repeated myself phone posting is hard.

I'd skip that product. Checking the ingredients, it is diluted with water. That's odd. Usually it's diluted with another oil or vitE. They also sell a regular bso non capsulated, but after seeing how they adulterated the caps, I'd avoid it.

Horbaach and SVA are known good brands. They will average around 1% TQ which is baseline for the protocol.

>>34356717
Chosen by who?

>>34356961
Ok, thanks. That’s just what my local place sold. I’ll try to get a hold of the recommended stuff.

Thank you!

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>>34356717
>Who represents this work so that we may speak directly
I am the official authority on all things CDF. Ignore the imposters.

>>34357000
You are a low IQ subhuman retard go back where you came from:
>>>/pol/catalog

You and people like you are the fucking NPC tier. You are a NPC. Just bound into the illusion you are not, because you are "against" mainstream. And everyone opposing your world view, your way of thinking has to be a lefty or whatever.
You are trapped in your binary thinking, Black/White, nothing in between. Just MUUHH guy made me feel bad, he have to be [faction i don't like].
Your are a slave. A slave to your emotions, to external forces, to elitists. A classical NPC. Never learned to sharpen your mind, to use it like a scalpel.

Please do the protocol. Stop being a slave.

>>34356717
You'll have to go through me to get to >>34357100
No one speaks to President of CDF without my OK.

It's going to take some time putting my notes together. It appears this pdf and protocol have been public facing for quite some time. I have to go through the archived threads before I address the pdf.

I'm sifting through the "maintenance protocol" and I have a few observations before we get started.

You are attempting to boost Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide and combine it with a human sirtuin activator. You claim this activates homeostasis with various benefits. You discuss the different forms of niacin to use.

Recommending Nicotinamide as an alternative to this process shows a lack of understanding. See below.

>We show that physiological concentrations of nicotinamide noncompetitively inhibit both Sir2 and SIRT1in vitro. The degree of inhibition by nicotinamide (IC50< 50 μm) is equal to or better than the most effective known synthetic inhibitors of this class of proteins.

https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(19)71610-X/fulltext

This was just a brief look. I will prepare my notes before I continue.

>>34357121
>muh /pol/ boogeyman.
Why don't you answer the question instead of sperging out?

>>34357426
>Recommending Nicotinamide as an alternative to this process shows a lack of understanding. See below.

That's in vitro. Also the study was from 2002. We understand how the process works now. From 2017:

>However, once administered to cells, NAM is rapidly converted to NAD+ and, therefore, the cellular concentration of NAM decreases rapidly while that of NAD+ increases. The result would be an inhibition of SIRT1 for a limited duration, followed by an increase in the activity.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28417163/

You're going to need to up your game here. This isn't the lab cafeteria. Take your time and prepare.

>>34357000
>Chosen by who?
Himself
Just some larping dork with too much time on his hands.
Probably that same troll with a new disguise.
We'll find out here in time.

Do any of the pdfs directly cover the topic of “but muh sneed oils are bad” ?

>>34357640
>Do any of the pdfs directly cover the topic of “but muh sneed oils are bad” ?

Pg. 205 and 222 cover safety of both Oregano oil and Black Seed Oil. Human and animal trials.

Short answer: proven safe and non-toxic.

>>34345559
Dark or black

>>34345519
!!! Ze zem zer zem zelves?

>>34356717
You'll also have to go through me to get to
>>34357420

Not just anyone can speak to The Hand Of The CDF President.

>>34357875
Who has authority here? This is ridiculous.

>>34357770
How can I speak with the creators of this material.

>>34344444
What kind of drugs do you take? This is an unironic question, truly curious.

>>34357947
Hello, how can I help you today,
the Managing Assistant Manager To The Hand Of CDF President is quite busy.
I'll be happy to help.

Anyone try Puritan's Pride Pomegranate Extract? It's cheap and standardized for ellagic acid.

>>34357947
Sorry bud. I basically just sweep the floors here. There's a process.

Start here: >>34357875

>>34357974
Yeah that's actually the one I use, but I took it right away when I first started maintenance so I couldn't tell you the difference between using vs not using it nor can I compare it to other brands, I just don't have the frame of reference. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

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I'm located in Australia, this is the BSO that is available from my local Naturopath that I have been using. I've never used BSO before the protocol, I'm about 3 weeks in. This oil is very dark, the flavour is not overwhelming or super bitter or anything. The quality to me seems good, I'm curious if anyone else has used it

>>34357935

Oh, uh, Good Evening Sir! Ah, it's my first night on the job, but maybe I can help you! You are looking for the author/s of the CDF papers, is that correct, sir? I think I can look that up in our system here.

But first, can you please sign your name here in the front desk book here please?

__________________

Sorry, we have to do this ever since "the incident"

>>34357640
>>34357770
yeah but dont't fry on canola, sunflower or any other engine oil that shit's actually poison when heated. Stick to coconut, olive or lard

>>34357974
As long as EA is standarized any POM should do

>>34356401
bump for polysaccharide capsules

>>34357947
Just post your research for discussion, I'm curious what you will come up with

>>34355913
go fuck yourself

>>34354935
>So
never trust anyone who begins a post this way.

>>34335377
Thank you for the information. I'm going to assume this is the plant you were talking about, if so, I see the similarities. Page 176 of the archived document, no?

I had also searched for answers regarding the plausibility of myco-heterotrophic plants being used as a form of medicine.


We currently have no data on the potential medicinal properties of T. Kobensis, however we have some data on the medical applications of G. Elata Blume, another kind of myco-heterotrophic plant.

>Acquisition, Analysis, Modification, and Pharmacological Activities
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6651794/

>Comparison on Bioactivities and Characteristics of Polysaccharides from Four Varieties of Gastrodia elata Blume
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9353053/

>Hope for Brain Aging and Dementia (A review on alternative medicine)
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33424999/

It appears that small molecules and polysaccharides carry anticancer, antiviral, antioxidative, immunomodulatory, and neuroprotective properties, though the level of effectiveness for this type of herbal medicine is questionable as it is nearly exclusively studied by the Chinese and not by the rest of the world. It's possible negative effects, such as the content of mycotoxins is up for question as well if they happen to be playing with numbers.

I'll attempt to look at the Voynich Manuscript for similarities later.

>>34357951
Used to be on amphetamine and occasional heroin binge. Before that I was smoking weed and taking psychedelics from time to time. Was a bit addicted to mdma in highschool.
Fried my brain in the summer of '18..or started to awaken. Maybe I gave up on life that year. I don't really remember. I was supposed to choose in which university in the Netherlands I'd study but pussied out while I had to make the payment.
Almost died in '17 and '20.
I now don't use anything besides cigarettes and candy. Occasionally slip up and hear the voices.
My drugs of choice now are mental laziness, internet and oversharing
Took some acid recently and it seems to have impaired my brain function...the voices also weren't as nice as they were the last time.
I have a fear that I will soon turn into a mumbling hobo. The last time I talked to one not longer than two months ago, I saw him as a warning sign, dude had no structure in his speech and jumped from one theme to another. He switched after a phrase or a word. Tried to grab my dick.
I am only a paragraph away from going that way.
Have to go on a lengthier hike or travel to a monastery real soon, otherwise I can somewhat see me becoming him...I still appreciate the weird powers I get but I have also seen him use similar powers on other people...and me

Yeast free bump

Is poor concentration and anxiety common when starting the protocol?

>>34361095
I had trouble forming sentences for the first 2 days or so and anxiety episodes come and go

>>34361192
Did you experience the mentioned flu-like symptoms and a slight feeling of inflamed kidneys?

>>34361192
And how soon did it improve? I am on day 3 and tomorrow I am starting a new job. I'll have to talk about my salary and what I need. Talking seems impossible

>>34361201
>>34361214

No kidney pain, but I had short flashes of fever, it went away in like 2 hours. The anxiety and retardation went away after those 2-3 days, I still get occasional flashes but much smaller and less frequent

Wow, five (yous) and not a single response of substance. I must have tripped a detection algorithm down at Glowie HQ. Wasn't sure if I was dealing with ignorant LARPers or genuine glowies before, but I have my answer now.
>>34355508
Lmao, doesn't even recognize an old and popular meme. Know how I know you're a glowie? ;)
>>34356054
Saying something "has anti-inflammatory activity" isn't the same as saying it has a net anti-inflammatory effect on the body. Observing an anti-inflamatory response on cells in microplates doesn't mean shit, you have to demonstrate that the effect is sufficent to offset the systemic inflamatory effect of the megadose of omega-6 that you're telling people to take twice a day, which you have not even attempted to do. If the best you can do is Ctrl-f "anti-inflammatory" on an article about black sneed oil it doesn't bode well for the scientific knowledge or rigor of your gay little project.
And of course they'll tell you black sneed oil is "safe," just like canola and sunflower sneed oil are "safe." Real ones know better.
>>34356913
Lmao, behold the power of you sneed oil salesman leader. He'll confidently tell you to take a megadose of inflammatory omega-6 and then respond with a single defensive sentence when challenged. Shouldn't you be off preparing your next round of CIA UFO psyop nothingburger "disclosures," Perby?
Real /x/ anons have known the truth about sneed oil for years. You might trick a couple of gullible newbie tripfags, but they were never going to be a threat anyways. Keep seething glowies, we're not gonna drink your sneed oil poison :)

>>34361574
No one cares. Go eat bugs.

>>34361574
I doubt this is Orion. Otherwise he broke down quickly.

>>34361907
Pretty cool when you can just see right through the bullshit. Illusions don't fly for us anymore fren.

Interesting die off symptom today (1.5month in). Itchy wrists and ankles. Quick google search and surprise surprise
>A common cause of itchy ankles is athlete’s foot, a type of ringworm fungal infection. Other fungal infections that may affect the ankles are jock itch (another type of ringworm) and yeast infections.

>>34361201
Lots of brain fog, flu-like malaise, sore kidneys during die off here.

Good news is, it's somewhat under your control. If you need to be sharp for your interview, you can just stop the protocol for a day or three, then hop back on.

>>34361907
Never claimed to be Orion. I would never tripfag. No clue what your point is.

>>34361574
TL;DR: schizoid ranting

You know, for someone who claims to be a "good guy" wanting to protect people, you sure do seem glib, almost happy, about a few "newbie tripfags" being ""poisoned"". You're so out of control ranting that you reveal your true intents without meaning to; frothing at the mouth like a fenthead on the corner.

Nobody is impressed, alarmed, dismayed, or otherwise significanly impacted by your infantilistic screeching. If anything, I feel slightly sorry for you, and slightly annoyed by how dishonest you are. That's it. Your posts are extra easy to ignore.

>>34362051
Lmao, keep on replying without actually giving any rebuttal to my central point, glowies. It just makes you seem less and less credible to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
>Your posts are extra easy to ignore.
Really? Because every post I make gets me bombarded with glowie seething. But please feel free to ignore me next time, I'm sure I won't miss your brilliant, insightful replies :)

Regardless of whatever you think about BSO, you should definitely be working to make sure you have the correct ratio of omega 3:6. Omega 6 are not inherently bad, but can cause problems if not balanced with the correct amount of Omega 3. It is the same issue as D3 to K2. D3 will cause problems if you do not have enough K2

>>34362082
Problem is that it's not practical. The average American, for example, is already at a 1:16 omega-6:omega-3 ratio, which is why they have so much inflammatory disease (depression, diabetes, heart disease, asthma, allergies, and so on). Most people already need to be supplementing omega-3 and cutting out omega-6 to get down to a healthy ratio closer to 1:1. When you add in almost 8 grams of omega-6 per day from two teaspoons of BSO, there's no hope. Safe upper limit for fish oil supplementation is 3 grams, which contains only 2.25 grams of omega-3. You'd have to be taking the max supplement plus eating fish twice a day every day just to offset the omega-6 in the sneed oil, but even that wouldn't be enough because your ratio was probably already way out of whack and it's almost impossible to get a 1:1 ratio from a modern diet.
The fact that this wasn't accounted for at all in the protocol (they could have recommended only one teaspoon of BSO oil along with 3 grams of an omega-3 supplement and a warning about omega-3:omega:6 ratio in diet) shows that the authors are either ignorant retards or bad actors (glowies). The fact that the leader of this gay little cult came out of hiding to seethe at me for pointing this out rather than correcting course shows that it's probably the latter. Conclusion, these people should certainly not be trusted to tell anyone what to be putting in their body, I'm going to continue telling anons who will listen not to kill themselves slowly with runaway inflamation by taking two tablespoons of BSO a day and collecting glowie seethe in the process until this gay psyop leaves my board.

anyone have some insight on how common fungal acne is? I did accutane for 6 months and I use decently strong anti-bacterial wash every day, and my cystic acne still won't let up. Gonna give 1% ketoconazole face washes a shot

>>34362278
Try taking pantothenic acid.
>Vitamin B5 (aka pantethine or pantothenic acid) is as effective as the drug Accutane in treating acne because it also works at the first stage of acne formation. But whereas Accutane shrinks sebaceous glands, vitamin B5 reduces oil production of the sebaceous glands by increasing coenzyme A, which increases the metabolic breakdown of oils—including sebum—by optimizing the normal activity of cell physiology.
Also, zinc is incredibly important. Take it after food.
>Study findings have shown that people with acne have significantly lower levels of zinc in their blood than people without any acne.

>>34362219
> until this gay psyop leaves my board

"your" board is already absolute trash. Like sifting through diarrhea to find a a gem.
>oh here's one! No wait that's a turd.
Nice job of maintenance. Keep up the good work..

>>34362331
many thanks

>>34362219
No one's taking BSO for the omegas you retard.

>>34362051
>frothing at the mouth like a fenthead on the corner.
Glad someone else had this thought.

>>34362278
I've had bad cystic acne for years that would come and go.

Red light therapy nuked it

>>34362219
Judging by how much you like to see (you) bet you're pretty good at sucking your own dick. Imagine acting like BSO is some street drug level danger.
>Fantasy land.

>>34362497
jfl at your reading comprehension

>>34362537
>The analysis found:

>Compared to adults who did not consume EPA and DHA, those who consumed between 2 and 3 grams daily of combined DHA and EPA omega-3 fatty acids (in supplements, food or both) had reduced systolic (top number) and diastolic (bottom number) blood pressure by an average 2 mm Hg.
>Consuming more than 3 grams of omega-3 fatty acids daily may have added blood pressure-lowering benefit for adults with high blood pressure or high blood lipids:
>At 3g a day of omega-3s, systolic blood pressure (SBP) decreased an average of 4.5 mm Hg for those with hypertension, and about 2 mm Hg on average for those without.
>At 5g a day of omega-3s, SBP declined an average of nearly 4 mm Hg for those with hypertension and less than 1 mm Hg on average for those without.
>Similar differences were seen in people with high blood lipids and among those older than age 45.
fucking retard.

>>34362537
>The latest nutrition guidelines call for consuming unsaturated fats like omega-6 fats in place of saturated fat. The AHA, along with the Institute of Medicine, recommends getting 5% to 10% of your daily calories from omega-6 fats. For someone who usually takes in 2,000 calories a day, that translates into 11 to 22 grams. A salad dressing made with one tablespoon of safflower oil gives you 9 grams of omega-6 fats; one ounce of sunflower seeds, 9 grams; one ounce of walnuts, 11 grams.

>Most Americans eat more omega-6 fats than omega-3 fats, on average about 10 times more. A low intake of omega-3 fats is not good for cardiovascular health, so bringing the two into better balance is a good idea. But don't do this by cutting back on healthy omega-6 fats. Instead, add some extra omega-3s.
fucking retard.

>>34362331
How much zinc and copper should one take daily?

>>34362557
lmao what point is is post even trying to make? who are you arguing with and who brought up blood pressure? i think this bot is broken

Measuring fungal metabolites in blood - hey I saw someone had posted something about getting lab work done to test the level of fungal metabolites in their blood. I assume this is something I can't just bang down to shithole labcorps and have done. Anyone know how I can get this data?

>34362580
calling out reading comprehension when there's literal gram measurements in both their posts.
>gg retard

>>34362219
>When you add in almost 8 grams of omega-6 per day
AHA says 22g
>Safe upper limit for fish oil supplementation is 3 grams
Absolute toss, you're just making things up.

>>34362573
>How much zinc and copper should one take daily?

I had the same question since I have deficiencies causing numerous problems because of candida.

Was hard to take and find these supps in a balanced format fitting my special need.

I discovered the body will take only what it needs through the skin, and in PERFECT balance, so I started wearing zinc and copper bracelets...problem solved. This had been a relief for me.

Zinc on the left wrist, copper on the right...creates electron flow in the body. They serve 2 purposes for me this way.

>34362219
and look at the retard not taking things into account.
>Thymoquinone (TQ, 2-methyl-5-isopropyl-1, 4-benzoquinone), a monoterpene molecule present in Nigella sativa L., has an anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, and anti-apoptotic properties in several disorders such as asthma, hypertension, diabetes, inflammation, bronchitis, headache, eczema, fever, dizziness and influenza.

>>34362565
lmao, good job finding an article on the first page of google, my little scientist! if the same medical establishment giving antidepressants, ADHD meds, and trans hormones say sneed oil is healthy for you, then it must be true!
go ahead and write me a diet plan with 22 grams of omega-3 a day and report back with it. once you give up and realize it's retardedly impractical I'll be waiting here to accept your apology.

>>34362635
Not apologizing for shit you self righteous twat. You're just wrong.

>>34362536
It's likely the same faggot from before that did a bit more reading and came up with some more points to argue, the trouble is, his talking points are outdated.
I get the feeling that this guy is also the "Orion" poster, notice how they coincidentally pop in at the exact same time after things have been so quiet? Just like the other trolls activity, pretending to be different people. Yet they all post and leave at the same time, hmmmm.
Furthermore, the words this person uses and the way they present themselves gives off a strong vibe of the samefag trollnigger under a different disguise.
So I'm going to say it's safe to assume It's the samefag trollnigger.

>>34362611
>AHA says 22g
I don't give a fuck, you're never going to get a balanced ratio consuming that much omega-6.
>Safe upper limit for fish oil supplementation is 3 grams
3-5 grams depending on where you look, but even 5 is still not enough. much easier to nitpick details that don't matter than to address the central point though, isn't it? :)

>>34362658
BUT HE'S THE REAL SCIENTIST WITH A LAB COAT
>keklol

>>34362618
Already addressed here >>34361574
Also outed yourself as a glowie tourist by not knowing how to quote posts properly. I know you glowies love talking in circles because you think you've got people tricked as long as you get in the last word but nobody's falling for it. Get a real argument or I'm just going to continue making you look like fools.

>>34362669
optimal ratio is 4:1 of Omega 6 to Omega 3 not 1:1 retard
>where are you even getting this made up shit?

>34362703
The quote method is so you don't get (You)s.
>retard

>>34362720
why is your second line in greentext? you are either a glowie tourist or malfunctioning bot and your excuse in your next post is obvious backpedaling cope.
in any case, i'll address your point even though it's just more diversion. the 4:1 recommendation comes from comparisons with the general population of the developed world, which has a ratio closer to 16:1. that doesn't necessarily make it "optimal" just better. our ancestors had 2:1 to 1:1 ratios. "Once in the body, omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids follow parallel pathways, continually competing with each other for chemical conversion to various structures and molecules inside and outside the cells. Given this mechanism, it makes sense that the two fats might be required in approximately equal amounts."
in any case this is all besides the fucking point, because the average person already has a 16:1 ratio, and the NAC maintenance is suggesting they add 8 more grams of omega-6 to their diet for every day of the rest of their lives without even recommending an omega-3 supplement or dietary change to try to mitigate the inflammatory effects this is going to have. when i pointed this out, the leader of your gay cult said I was "full of shit" instead of taking the criticism in stride. you are taking health advice from ignorant retards who don't have your best interests in mind, but that's okay, because I'm not here to try and convert brainwashed cultists, i'm making these posts for desperate anons who are on the fence and at risk of being tricked by this psyop

>34362823
Are enjoying my distractions? You literally don't matter but I'm having fun fucking you off.
>Andrew Stoll, who advocates the consumption of the two fats in a 1:1 ratio, states

Just compiling the evidence for curious lurkers.
>>34355508
This poster doesn't understand what "sneed" means, an old and popular meme.
>>34362598
This poster doesn't know how to link posts properly.
>>34362720
>>34362728
This poster doesn't understand how to use greentext, using it to separate one paragraph of their own original text from another.
Combine this with the unusually high levels of tripfag activity in these /cdf/ threads and ask yourself, does this seem like an organic thread made up of posters native to this board? Or a glowie/bot invasion?

>>34362897

> Ree ree ree people don't know how to use 4chan and that means they are glowies

Or, an influx of new users drawn in by quality content, which you are seeking to derail because it makes you feel insecure.

"Your boards", indeed.

>>34362897
>This poster doesn't know how to link posts properly.
if this wasn't your first day you'd know that people do this all the time to deny (you) thirsty dumbasses like you from any attention that you desperately crave

>>34354930
Bumping this post. Has anyone had eyesight improvements from any supplement? Apparently Bilberry Extract is useful as well.

>>34363020
Right, nice backpedal. You're replying to every single one of my posts but trying to deny me attention. Nobody's buying it, glowie :)

>>34363131
Yup, red light therapy helped mine unexpectedly