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Does not ejaculating actually do something? Some practices say it does and others say it doesn't, and there's been no scientific nor spiritual proof that it does. There's people who claim they reached enlightenment both while masturbating and ejaculating and others that not. There's people that go months without porn and ejaculating and still feel miserable. Is this just a coping mechanism for those who do it more than often and need a motive to stop doing it because it's getting in the way of their routine?
Also, forget ancient/old texts. Some say it's ok and others say it's not. Porn and sexual activities without reproduction in mind has been a common thing for centuries, if not millenia.
Today marks 2 weeks of no porn nor ejaculation and masturbation, but on day 7 I had a wet dream and today woke up with a massive boner.
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Benefits of cumming every day:
>You feel fuzzy for approximately 2 seconds at climax

Benefits of never nutting for the rest of your life:
>Less degenerate mindset
>Waste less semen
>More free time

Idk bro. It's better to just not watch porn. Don't try to "willpower through it"
Just stop watching porn
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It is just a psyop to turn you into a eunuch.
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>>33902977
pineal gland is bullshit, it literally does nothing
on frogs its just for light measurement and it even sucks at that
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>>33902999
It's actually the exact opposite. All teenage trannies are coomers. Trannies watched so much porn that they "saw themselves as the girl" eventually. You can see this phenomena on /gif/ where people will make threads where "you are the girl below" or something like that.
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>>33902995
See, this is what I mean, it's always incoherent.

Benefits of cumming at least once per week:
>Stress release due to the release of certain chemicals in the body
>If done before bed it helps to fall asleep also because of the release of chemicals
>Less moody and cranky
>Less or no wet dreams

Benefits of never nutting for the rest of your life:
Can't think of any. A degenerate will only get worse due to seeing women in revealing clothing every day while he needs to suppress the urges, possibly leading to rape.
Semen is produced every day and testosterone levels peak at the 7th day of not ejaculating, and then drop to base level to once again start rising.
Free time can be used to do whatever you want. One could say masturbating and watching random youtube videos or TV are both a waste of time, and that the last 2 provide no benefits, while ejaculating has benefits.
Also, one does not need porn to ejaculate, so not sure why that was brought up.

>>33903009
>pineal gland is bullshit, it literally does nothing
I believe it does, but I believe restraining oneself from self pleasure does not offer any benefits. One should practice it in moderation. Once per week seems like the ideal.
The fact that the pineal gland design and references has been seem through history in different cultures plus the fact it has the same ramifications as the eyes connects with texts that talk of people having a physical third eye that receded with time seems too much of a coincidence to me.
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>>33902977
I've only ever seen negative effects. Since 2014 I've tried abstaining for days, weeks, even months and it just makes my mental state much worse. The most I did was 6 months in 2018 and it was one of the worst years of my life. I started forcing myself to masturbate once per day a few months ago and it's the best I've been in years. I can't relate to the success stories at all.
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>>33903048
>Also, one does not need porn to ejaculate, so not sure why that was brought up.
Because porn is the one thing you absolutely shouldn't look at whether you're ejaculating or not. Porn is also a very relevant topic when you're talking about ejaculation. It's insanely difficult and rare to find a fully grown man who has never watched porn in the modern world.
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>>33903064
But it's not needed, therefore can't be used for arguing. I'm 30 and have ejaculated in the past year without the need of porn. Just imagined some girls I know personally. If anything, it's better than porn, since you can controll yourself better, making it so you can feel and discover your body better and last longer in order to achieve a full body orgasm.
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>>33903048
>>33903053
I disagree. Only ejaculating through sex or wet dreams is ideal. Playing a round of a video game doesn't send a chemical torpedo to your system like cooming does, so its a better alternative. /x/ should know spirits are real and that fucking them is a retarded passtime, can't believe I spent my whole teen years lying with demons as the only thing to look forward to every night.
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>>33903076
>therefore can't be used for arguing
I don't think you understand what I wrote in the slightest. You're also just using a bunch of "muh chemicals" cope. Prolactin also makes your tits bigger in addition to making you feel less stressed.
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>>33902977
I did completed NNN of last year and after one week I felt not much difference except a bit more of energy.
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>>33903011
I think I lost a few IQ points by reading your post.
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The difference was way more pronounced in high school, now there is almost no benefit except to pride. Maybe I ruined my body with stims and vaccines in the interim, but I no longer feel like superman after 2 weeks without cumming, I feel no different at all except that nobody can look me in the eye and call me a wanker.
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>>33903099
That doesn't make sense. You can't "lose muh IQ points" just by reading something
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Been noporn for years, which leads to a way healthier mindset. Then, I’ve been nofap since october - big difference. More energy, better mood, clear mindset, and less inhibitions. Feels great.
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>>33903109
Why are you on 4chan if you can't understand irony? Are you autistic?
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>>33903126
You don't even know what irony is
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>>33902977
>There's people who claim they reached enlightenment both while masturbating and ejaculating
Who?
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>>33903082
>Playing a round of a video game doesn't send a chemical torpedo to your system like cooming does
You clearly never tried VR horror games. Even non VR ones put your body in a fight or flight mode for hours, which has been proven to be detrimental.
>>33903084
I said chemicals because I don't know the name due to not reading them every day. The scientific papers are free to read online and there's several studies, so don't take my word and go read them yourself.
>>33903088
It seems like everyone is different. I feel exactly the same, and my energy is higher late in the day, which makes sense to me because I've ingested at least 1800kcal and 1.5L of water by then.
>>33903122
Exact opposite of me. Some days feel the same, others have less energy, worse mood, mindset is always the same, social life is the same.
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>>33903064
>It's insanely difficult and rare to find a fully grown man who has never watched porn in the modern world.
>rare
Well good thing I'm that rare Pokémon. Get your Master Ball ready.
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>>33903064
>It's insanely difficult and rare to find a fully grown man who has never watched porn in the modern world.
I have never clicked on and watched a porn video, never went further than pictures. Parents had parental controls on is likely the only reason.
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>>33902977
When I was 19, I went 90 days without jerking off

The only thing I really remember is having wet dreams and nutting anyways.
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>>33903177
>>33903183
How? All kids go through a phase where they watch/see some type of porn, be it online videos, TV or magazines. It was and likely still is a common thing in school. Had a guy in my class that had a few videos on his phone running symbian.
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>>33903215
>How? All kids go through a phase where they watch/see some type of porn, be it online videos, TV or magazines.
I never did. I'm telling the truth. I don't watch porn now. I never have ever watched sexual material like what people on /x/ talk about.
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>>33903237
Only way that's possible is by being home-schooled and catholic, or by being asexual and aromantic while being bullied for being classified as a pussy for not watching it while all the other kids are during break.
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>>33903215
>All kids go through a phase where they watch/see some type of porn
I did, but it never went beyond google images and 4chan boards. I would use my imagination the vast majority of the time, porn just wasn't much of a habit like soda wasn't
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>>33903122
Adding to this: While fapping made me lethargic, having wet dreams, which I have started to have cause nofap, do not affect my energy level.
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>>33903254
Not so much that, but it can happen. I have heard how some people got into porn and it's crazy to me. People didn't really talk to me in school, so it wasn't a thing that they would have brought up. That I never looked at porn as a 12 year old isn't too crazy. I wish /x/ would just be the fun kind of crazy rather than that kind of stupid crazy. You guys can believe anything else, but me saying I don't look at porn now or ever is hard to believe?
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>>33903276
>You guys can believe anything else, but me saying I don't look at porn now or ever is hard to believe?
Yes, because it's everywhere. Maybe you only classify porn as being sexual intercourse online videos and in adult channels, or you went to school in the 60s/70s, but it's more than that.
And yes, I'm tired of coomers everywhere too. Can't have a proper discussion without someone posting an image of a woman in less appropriate clothes.
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>>33903295
>Yes, because it's everywhere
Define "everywhere". I know how to avoid it. It can't be "everywhere" then.
>but it's more than that.
Ok, so this is why I have to ask a question. What is porn? I was born in the late 80s. So tell me what you mean by "porn".
>And yes, I'm tired of coomers everywhere too. Can't have a proper discussion without someone posting an image of a woman in less appropriate clothes.
This is usually a way to get replies to inane questions on /x/. Stupid questions on par with "Is coffee good for you?" with some coomer bait pic. The funny thing is that when I see that stuff it makes me focus on the stupid question and laugh.
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>>33902977
Honestly society does have a crippling porn addiction. And while to be fair, some masturbation is actually healthy and isn't a problem, I don't think addicts can DO "some" - it's like AA, it's either you're a cooming fiend touching your dick at all hours of the day or you've quit cold turkey, and, for them, their lives are better having quit cold turkey.

After all the porn we've been saturated with, without deferring to the psychobabble about bible shit in the OP post, we really would be healthier if we quit. It takes up too much of our time and life force, and that's just the facts.

If you truly do only occasionally masturbate, I'd say you're fine, however.
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>>33903276
These people are real. I know somebody who is raised in the elite basically and he doesn't masturbate and also wheres khaki pants when at home. When I started wearing jeans from the moment I go out of bed to the moment I go back in, I had similar results.
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>>33903307
Fucked up my analogy a little. I meant to say it's either you're a raging alcoholic who cannot control their life and is always found in a bottle, or you're dry and never touch the stuff for any reason.

As a society, we are porn addicts. I think the comparison is fair.
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>>33903314
>As a society, we are porn addicts
Never felt so good to be separate from that society. I mean, if anything we should be creating our own and leaving the one that would be that way. Why live around people who are sick perverts who think it's ok to watch weird sex acts?
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>>33902999
>I'm such a based gigachad for wiring my brain to be happy from watching someone else having sex while I rub my penis
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>>33903307
>some masturbation is actually healthy
wet dreams indicate masturbation is obsolete even if you don't have sex
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>>33902977
People who still feel like shit when they don't jerk are probably mentally ill. I'm bipolar so like perma depressed plus angry triggerable. Just chemicals. Also take a liter plastic thermos and freeze it over night. Get it when you wake up and put it on your lap anytime through the day to not get hard no matter what.
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>>33903306
>Define "everywhere"
Books, movies, TV, series, online, ads. Lyrics in music on the radio also reference it.
>So tell me what you mean by "porn".
Anything that depicts sexual content that can either include intercourse or not.
>>33903307
>It takes up too much of our time
Thing is, it's either doing it or being here discussing it (or doing somethingelse of equal importance). In the end, it's taking up time and both of them hold the same value, so I never got what point that's trying to convey.
>>33903330
People watching others having weird sex acts has been a thing for millenia. Start with the Greeks.
>>33903374
I feel like shit either way because my depression comes from things in this world that I can't change and won't change and that impact my life in a negative way.

Also, why do you all keep bringing up porn? One can masturbate and ejaculate without so and there's no difference, as it would be the same as watching it irl or even having a girl jerk you off, as there's no oral nor penetration.
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>>33903436
Ok, I get it. I'm gonna go bump a few good threads after this one. I hope you all have fun talking about this stupidity some more.
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>>33902977
Depends on person I think, porn turns me into a degen coomer so I have to lay off it, but i cant go full no fap or else my libido will be too high and ill begin cooming again
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>>33902977
no, I was given my full enlightenment when I was fapping like a madman. toned it down since then but its all a stupid meme.
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>>33903011
they are just fucked up in the head by demons

>>33903331
>lacks the capacity to completely blind out the male actor and self insert as the one giving it to the female
if you dont use porn just as a template youre a NPC that shouldnt be let near that stuff anyway
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>>33903130
me >>33903473
binding your enlightenment to something so mundane has getting rid of your fleshly urges is extremely limiting and might even cut you off.
protip: nobody gives a shit if you fap, the above knows exactly how fucked up the world is. trust me they have other things to care about than if you touch your dick or not.
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I just remembered that during lockdown I started actively reading again since I left school. Despite hardly using the internet because I was reading and sleeping a lot and exercising and doing yoga/stretches in-between, I still felt like masturbating and if I ignored it for too long the concentration for reading would not be there. It was the best months of my life, making me realize that what makes me depressed and miserable is not wanking, but having to wake up early to an alarm, expose myself to harsh environments and listen to brain dead conversations 5 days per week.
Seeing as not cumming has no benefits in my case, I will go back to doing it once or twice per week, like I used to, usually on saturday and sunday evening.
>Verification not required.
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>>33903493
You don't even know what Enlightenment is. It doesn't surprise me that people who defend masturbation have no idea what they're talking about.
If you want to masturbate to death and watch porn while you eat that's fine, it is your life but please don't claim it to be ok for enlightenment.
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>>33903714
>nooo you cant have enlightenment because you did not do the same as I did
shut up you mouth breathing faggot, enlightenment is seeing through the veil of this measly existence, coming the the realization of the dark spirits and their workings and rising above them into a realm of pure bliss and happiness
the path doesnt matter, the destination does. I bet youre a materialist faggot too.
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>>33903726
Lol, I stand correct. You're confusing baby's first awakening with enlightenment.
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>>33903741
>ad hom
weak form. whats your "enlightenment" then?
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>>33903741
You seriously think enlightnment is making your soul get out of your body by meditation and being able to float to wherever you want, be it in this universe or others, don't you? All by not cumming. The answer me this. How come people that claim they were able to do aren't rich? All they have to is see fly to some rich person's house, see what they do and then blackmail. If you include being able to see into the future, then you can just see the lottery numbers.
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>>33902977
Its a method to relieve stress. Do it or dont. Some people do it way too much and some people should do it more often. Just with everything there is a balance you need to maintain
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>>33903749
>>33903775
seriously, you don't even have an idea of what you're talking about. I mean, is fine, everyone is in deferent steps of the path but c'mon, please don't try to impose you're opinion as spiritual facts.
Enlightenment is when someone succeeds in the annihilation of self crosses the abyss, and has merged with the source (Nirvana).
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>>33903836
>Enlightenment is when someone succeeds in the annihilation of self crosses the abyss, and has merged with the source (Nirvana).
thats literally what I posted here
>>33903726
enlightenment is seeing through the veil of this measly existence, coming the the realization of the dark spirits and their workings and rising above them into a realm of pure bliss and happiness

mouth breather who doesnt even read and understand confirmed
also if you werent "lead in" you most likely fallen for a ruse
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>>33903436
>Thing is, it's either doing it or being here discussing it (or doing somethingelse of equal importance). In the end, it's taking up time and both of them hold the same value, so I never got what point that's trying to convey.

Categorically false. You can not do it or discuss it except to the minimum. You can free up your energy and time to build a better life for yourself. That's the point, simple as.
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>>33903937
Explain how watching random stupid videos is better than having a wank.
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>>33903867
lol, you don't understand. You're literally saying that Buddha or an Arhat enjoy masturbation and watching porn.
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>>33903950
no, all Im saying is that higher beings could give less of a shit what some individual is doing and follow the plan of the allmighty instead of being petty nitpickers like you
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>>33902995
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>>33903963
You're also saying you're already a Buddha, because you reached Enlightenment...
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>>33903982
who gives a shit about buddha? I only answer to the most high.
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I'd like to know how the mind of anons who say "you could be bettering your life instead of masturbating and watching porn" works. What could one possibly be doing to better his life at 21:55, which is 5 minutes before I start reading a book for 1 hour before going to sleep? What could you possibly do in 5 minutes? Cumming will relax by body to help me fall asleep, as the relaxation lasts up to 1h30m.
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>>33903990
Based higher first entities enjoyer.
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>>33903084
Prolactin also increases 5AR which converts T -> DHT which makes you bald. Real shit show of a hormone prolactin. Thank god they are making monoclonial antibodies to destroy the prolactin receptor.
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It does something if you don't do it and it also does something if you do. Be aware
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>>33903084
>>33904025
>tits and bald meme
I know a guy that wanks at least 5 times every day, is skinny and has plenty of hair. He's been doing it since we were in school. Didn't get in the way of his life, as he succeeded in becoming a mechanic and opening his own garage, which is what he wanted.
You've been reading buzzfeed articles too much. Try talking to people for a change.
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>>33904025
>jerk it at least 3 times a day for decades
>still have a full head of hair
stop posting stupid bro science
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>>33904128
>>33904079
Some people are more sensitive to DHT, hence why some go bald and some don’t. Then it’s possible that some experience reduced hair growrh or even hair loss due to prolactin.
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>>33904025
Only if you have the genetic predisposition towards baldness in response to DHT, in which case you're going bald regardless of if you coom or not.
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BASED THREAD
BLESSED OP
FUCKING YEAH!!!!!!
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>>33902977
>Does not ejaculating actually do something?
Nothing, a bit of Zinc depletion is all. But pleasure that's another story. Too much Dopa and you lose interest in other things.
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>>33902977
You need to learn how to transmutate the essence.

>My hands are free now
>Why am I not weighting gold now

Its a hard thing to do and thw way is probably hidden from public on purpose, water muddied, and as a result we have shilled arrogant responses in the thread. Wish i could tell you the way but i dont, but i do have a strong belief that it has something to do with QiGong hence why atheistic communists hijacked it and made it into something ridicolous like old people joga.
As a start you could search for old qigong transcripts and from there on out...
Also you can direct this transmutated essence/energy via body to ether tools like vajra.
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>>33903048
He was pretty coherent bro. Why waste your man juice just to feel a few seconds of pleasure?
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>>33902977
literally gives you more self-control and control of your attention in all things so yeah
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>>33904265
I lost interest in all things and not cumming doesn't help. I'm stuck in this insufferable existence in a sack of meat and bones, so what's there to be interested about?
>>33904271
>As a start you could search for
>Wish i could tell you the way but i dont
Did you not read the texts, then? Why tell someone to do what you didn't?
>>33904298
Because it's not 2 seconds, it's at least 7 days.
>>33904499
Maybe if you do it more than once a day, but as someone that did it once per week and at some point once per day, I feel the same by not doing it.
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>>33903048
>A degenerate will only get worse due to seeing women in revealing clothing every day while he needs to suppress the urges, possibly leading to rape.
False. He will have urges that stay in the bedroom and more self-control in general. It is the weirdo porn addict with fetishes who does things like became a tranny and rape women.

>Stress release due to the release of certain chemicals in the body
No. It causes stress. The belief you need it is just rationalising stress-causing dependence and porn addiction.

>If done before bed it helps to fall asleep also because of the release of chemicals
You should be able to fall asleep immediately if you are healthy.

>Less moody and cranky
>Less or no wet dreams
These things are literally withdrawals from your addiction. Someone who does not have this problem will not be moody and cranky, and won't get wet dreams. You will also get brainfog and bouts of extreme horniness where anything sets you off. I need to emphasise: THIS IS NOT NORMAL OR HEALTHY. It is not our natural state it is the state of an addict.

You are a sad creature rationalising your self-abuse. Porn addicts have worse lives in every way. It is indicative of being a social failure.
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>>33904530
>It is the weirdo porn addict with fetishes who does things like became a tranny and rape women.
On this point I'd also add that it is extremely unnatural to get off to sexual struggle and violence. Most pornography is rapey in this way and trains you to think of women in that way. It cannot be good that there are hundreds of millions of men with dangerous psychological and social defects like this.
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>>33904521
Because i am unable to find such texts, only documentaries about suppression.
But the knowledge is there, our intestines are about 7m, and those 7 m hold a fuckton of gut flora that can produce electricity - or atleast it could, once, we are ficked up by various vaccines today.
The point being, we must somehow channel that energy via physical and psychological movement.
Budha, was on this same page, channeling energy.
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>>33904635
>that can produce electricity
Anon, you do know that our body is sending electric signals all the time to tell things what to do, right? We also know plants do the same. This is not a new discovery...
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>the amount of anons seething arguing how you should touch your dick
I am a super /d/egenerate, was like this at birth. Hell I never masturbated to sexual intercourse before, that is how weird I am. But one thing I noticed over the years is that the nofap and the coomers are two sides of the same coin. By coping with trauma by splurging into hedonistic lust or becoming their ideal "saint" self. I did both and found out neither made me happy until I stopped caring and accepted who I am. When I was super coomer, I would edge for weeks and all day. It was painful and made me tired and depressed. When I did the nofap, I had more energy and woman flirted with me more but I used sugar to replace porn. Now not everyone who does nofap is like me, some succeed and go for years while the longest I could do was 40 days. During my nofap phase I always felt guilty about my sexuality. Since during that time I went over to christianty since I was attacked by literal demons weekly. I thought I was impure and guilty, and created some sort of guilt complex.

But a year ago I stopped that I just accepted who I was. Now I feel zero energy loss when I cum since in the end were are just gods in a matrix being harvested for loosh. Now this is coming form someone who has a gnostic point of view, and this path is not for everyone. I just find it tiring that people are arguing over to touch, or not touching their dicks.
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>>33904635
Also
>Because i am unable to find such texts, only documentaries about suppression.
So you're saying things that someone said but you don't know if they're actually the things that are written because you never read it, right?
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>>33902977
BOW OP!
The ascended one has spoken!
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>>33904755
I have so many questions...
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>>33904722
>since in the end were are just gods in a matrix being harvested for loosh
This nature of reality you're referring to is entirely reverseable and bendable. I'm not sure about breakable however.
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>>33904707
But what is the source of that energy
>>33904731
Well there must be some files somewhere
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong
Unless they did this just because
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>be me. Girlfriend ropes herself when I'm 34. She's dead now.
>move home. Barely have sex despite opportunities. Can't get it up too good anymore. Don't jerk off much at all 2 years. Cum is watery and dribbles. Sad man. Develop superhuman sexual stamina because I'm a sad man.
>cutie from 6th grade hits me up one day and says she wants to move back home from across the world and have my babies.
> sure. Fuck it. Why not? Fuck life.
> she is somehow still beautiful and fucks me 2-5 times a day.
>GIANT loads. Strong boners. Insane stamina to beat that shit up.

Life is good. My spiritual self is mighty. I don't know if no nut is true. All i know is i feel like a powerful man, shooting heavy grain bullets up in a woman. And i didn't at all no nutting. I was literally just waiting to die alone in the woods.
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>>33904722
>I didn't get rewarded for not masturbating so now I just do it because why not
People can do whatever they want, that's the truth, but coomers wanna convince everyone that masturbating cannot affect your spirituality. It's the same arguments over and over again, nobody is telling you to stop masturbating.
It's healthy? Of course not, but do whatever you want.
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>>33903944
No, because that's not true. Unless those videos are educational. What the fuck is wrong with you? GO OUTSIDE. MEET PEOPLE. LIVE, GROW.
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>>33903099
That happened to a friend of mine who literally described that to me. it's not made up
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>>33903011
checked
scary and based
check out autogynephillia
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>>33902995
By learning to get a hold of the energy of the orgasm I've been able to prolong them for up to 10 seconds. Even without ejaculating.
>>33902977
The whole claustrum thing in your pic related is fake news. Your sexual energy isn't supposed to be wasted nor repressed, but harnessed. The whole nofap movement is the classic psyop: present two false truths for the sheep to argue about, while sliding the Truth under the carpet. Truly satanic.
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>>33903150
You are either a hylic or lying to yourself.
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>>33902977
It makes you turn gay and become Mr Bitch Tits.
Also your odds of getting testiscular or prostate cancer will raise up.

you wanna lose a ball or your life? either you find a wife and fuck her a few times a week or you lose a ball.

which is it?
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>>33905328
>Also your odds of getting testiscular or prostate cancer will raise up.
>I read it on snopes or some other normie propaganda medically accepted bullshit trust me
Plus I'm the only one and original Mr. Bitch Tits. No other one can be Mr. Bitch Tits but me so fuck off.
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>>33903714
Could you tell what it is then?

What's wrong with masturbation in your opinion? How about porn?

What eating got to do with anything or was it just figure of speech and autistic?
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>>33904034
Why not explain what it do if you know? How I can be aware without full understanding?
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>>33903237
youre probably just gay, every normal teeenager would want to see sex in this society. even just netflix films are constantly fucking in every episode
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>>33903259
low IQ, too retarded to think about porn
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>>33905262
How to harness it?
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>>33905328
Why would I lose a ball? And is this true that you get prostate cancer from masturbation but not from having sex? What's the big difference?
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I train almost everyday. I dont masturbate since 12 days and I dont ejaculate. I have a beautiful girlfriend that I make love to but we try to make that a sacred practice and not do it to often to make it a reward.

I believe not-watching porn is very beneficial. Think about it, you watch some pixels moving imitating people fucking electric reproduction of a real sex but more degenerate and just fake for your own pleasure while you sit before a box of pixels or a phone screen?
This is just not good. Not in any way. It should be avoided. Don't put shame on yourself if you failed, just get up and walk that journey again.


Give yourself freedom. God exists and he will help You. Don't ejaculate often, dont fap. It's a energy waster. Put that energy into trainings, helping yourself and helping other people. There are BILLIONS of ways you can spend that energy other than a ritual of giving your life-fluid into some pixels/ A.I nonsense.


God will help You, don't worry. Stay strong. Keep your head high man, we will make it
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>>33905505
If you cum you deplete yourself of cum. Simple
If you deplete yourself of your cum, your body will have to produce more. This is resource-exhausting and your body can't take care of other depuration and cleansing processes.
Ergo, masturbation CONTRIBUTES to cancer development.
This should be fucking obvious to anyone with one neuron or more.
If you retain, your body is free to use those resources to perform the rest of bodily functions in a more optimal way.
Want to be absolute sure? try it for your fucking self.
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>>33905528
based wholesome anon bro keep grinding
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>>33905531
beautiful words. Lets remember to not be mad at uninformed. Lord forgive them, they don't know what they are doing.

They all just need to try. But the world is getting a better place as we speak.

God bless brother

>>33905539
Thank You brother, God bless.
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>>33905531
So having sex causes cancer too?

And you still didn't answer why I'll lose the ball?
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>>33905531
Good advice. Also breathing properly like an actual human helps while retaining.
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>>33905550
>Lets remember to not be mad at uninformed. Lord forgive them, they don't know what they are doing.
Thank you for that humbling reality check. I must admit I need to change some of my mood patterns.
>>33905559
>causes
Constant ejaculation CONTRIBUTES to cancer.
>why I'll lose the ball?
Sorry I'm not following you. Why would you lose your ball?
>>33905576
based
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>>33905474
>youre probably just gay
This psyop again? Come up with some better material. Everyone who isn't a porn coomer is gay by your logic. Non-logic that is.
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>>33905596
>either you find a wife and fuck her a few times a week or you lose a ball.
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>>33904997
How is it not true if they're not educational? I just watched Sonic 2, same education level as a wank.
>GO OUTSIDE AT 22 O'CLOCK IN -4 TALK TO PEOPLE
Retard.
>>33905262
It's been 50 minutes and you haven't explained further, therefore I'm going to call bullshit on that you're going to claim you saw it in a dream.
>>33905328
You've been reading too much buzzfeed and fact checking articles about sôience.
>>33905528
That pic isn't you and if god existed he would have created a perfect world, and if he created it knowing people would be evil then he's not all powerful.
>>33905531
>sex causes cancer
>you lose your balls because... YOU JUST DO OK?!!!
>if you cut yourself you also get cancer because the body needs to repair it and your body can't take care of other depuration and cleansing processes
>same for saliva btw
>>33905672
More like you'll lose your temper and money and once you run out she takes the house and the kids. Had a work colleague this done to him. He's not all there now and just watches movies in his free time and cares about his daughter.
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>>33905672
Ohh.. I wasn't that one anon. He bullshitting.
>>33905684
I am 33905531. Specifically, constant ejaculation CONTRIBUTES to cancer. My bad for using the wrong words.
I don't understand the other points tho.
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if you ever schedule a wank you do not have a healthy relationship with your penis
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>>33905706
Well, no shit, everything when done too much leads to bad results. As I've said before, once per week seems like a good thing, since testosterone peaks after 7 days and then drops to base level.
>>33905712
So you want people to just wack it when they have a boner? "Hey boss, just got a boner out of nowhere, gotta use the toilet."
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>>33905731
>once per week seems like a good thing, since testosterone peaks after 7 days and then drops to base level.
Practicing piano once a month is good.
Practicing once a week is better.
Practicing daily will sure give you an advantage.
Same with retention.
Retain for 7 days, you'll be better off than most coomers.
Retain for a month, you will experience physiological changes that no 7day retainer will.
Retain for longer and you will discover a new world through the lens of a completely transformed ability to perceive.
But again, you won't discover this until you yourself practice your daily piano lessons.
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>>33905684
That pic is me and God exists.
Life is a beautiful test. What is your definition of a perfect world? a world where you always land on a pillow when you fall? a world full of desires fullfilled?

God exists, and this is me. I love trainings, prayers, being in the present and I train almost everyday since few years. I do calisthenics, gym and boxing. You should be nicer to all the people in this thread. I won't judge You. I won't be mean to You because this is pointless. You should just love yourself brother, learn to help yourself and others. Don't be so hard on yourself. God will help You. It's all gonna be okay
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>>33905751
Beautiful words, agreed.


And remember guys, don't be mad at uninformed and non-believers. They don't know what they are saying/doing. Our duty is to help them out of the darkness.

God is watching and he will help if he sees your willingness to change for the better
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>>33902977
Needless ejaculation is just a waste of very powerful energy. Most aren't used to and don't know what to do with that much sexual energy in their body and that's why they can't stop fapping. Nofap + Robert bruce energy work = massive gains, you can transmute all that sexual energy throughout your astral/energetic body this way
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>>33904812
>But what is the source of that energy
Life. That's just how life works. Every being has electricity inside of them in the form of neurons.
>Unless they did this just because
>They are known for their views against the Chinese Communist Party
There's your answer. If they tell you a yellow wall is red, you better say it's red, or they'll make your life hell.
>>33905751
>Retain for 7 days, you'll be better off than most coomers.
Wrong. I've tried every day, every 7 days, 2 weeks, 1 month, 6 months, always felt the same or more irritable the longer it lasted. Physiological necessities are different from muscular memory.
>>33905756
>What is your definition of a perfect world?
One without evil and flesh. Since you keep claiming god exists, then he's not all powerful nor perfect, since he didn't create a perfect world nor perfect beings. Even certain animals went extinct due to poor design. Just search for it. Their bodies would fall flat.
I've tried gym and no matter what I do, even with perfect form and pushing myself I won't grow and I end up getting hurt when going for strenght due to the body having limits, which is a bad design of an imperfect vessel.
>>33905779
Why have we never seen anyone attain anything out of ordinary, then? Aside from those born different, like that guy that eats lightbulbs and won't cut himself or the other that passes electricity through his body.
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>>33905617
the topic wasnt about being a porn coomer but just watching porn once, and yes every non asexual non retarded kid would do it just to see how sex is. youre either gay, asexual or literally too retarded to find porn back then or ye late 80s didnt even have hd porn when you were a teen, it wasnt really as much as its now. only other options is parents or whomever who forbid it to you.
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>>33902995
average nofapper cope:
>never cum
>nothing happens
>pretend you have enlightened super powers
>pretend you have more free time even though you never did anything with your free time to begin with
>fail nofap anyway
>lie about it to your friends, random people on the internet, and yourself
>continue to do this until you get tired of it and just stop talking about nofap
>pretend you never took part in it to begin with
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Anybody have any idea if it's possible to direct the energy released during orgasms to a specific goal/person/object?
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None of you have achieved supernatural power, let alone immortality. Asceticism is just as harmful as hedonism, yet it is in the union of both of these things that the Great Work will be accomplished. Truth-seekers, never stop seeking until you find; for ceasing to seek is ignorance, which is death. Seek the philosopher's key that reveals all mysteries as a single door for you to open.
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>>33905807
>asexual
Maybe that's it. I don't know and I don't care. If I really wanted to, I could play right into the SJW culture and claim to be some kind of oppressed. That's not my thing though. I just worry about other things in life. I study subjects that interest me and don't worry about what some idiots do or think.
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>>33905766
Based. Thank you for your senseful words.
>>33905779
Based.
>>33905798
>the same or more irritable the longer it lasted
Were you transmuting, using and circulating your dam of energy?
Bad mood is a sign of improper energy flow.
No way you retained for six months and didn't notice a thing.
Simply impossible.
Unless you kept heavily polluting your awareness with substances, junk food and dopaminergic stuff. Which I also don't think is even doable. Retaining for six months is TOO notorious to feel 'the same'.
>>33905829
>pretend
My whole body is pretending to be healthier and stronger. My whole emotions are pretending to be leaning now to the positive end of the spectrum.
My brain is pretending to work better even to the point that it's 100% objectively measurable.
My sleep is pretending to be more profound and comforting.
My digestion is pretending to be better even tho I haven't done any significant diet changes.
Damn why is my body pretending all this? It's too good at pretending I almost fell for it.
33905856
>Asceticism is just as harmful as hedonism
Classic communist set of values.
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>>33905916
Oh, and also my skin is pretending to be smoother and shinier in a healthy way and my hair is pretending to look vibrant and be easier to comb.
What a bunch of pretending am I right
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>>33905798
You need Love and God in your life. You will have a nice shape at the gym, I promise. You might not believe me but I started as a computer skeleton. I had no muscles. I was skinny, really skinny and I had no stamina, no cardio. Breathless easily.

I overcame all of it, I became muscular, I improved my cardio greatly and I found God again and I feel better than I ever was. I feel amazing, I feel loved I feel so strong and disciplined.

Brother, why would God create a perfect puffy pillow world where there is 0 harm, 0 distractions, 0 worries, 0 desires?

That makes no sense, as there is a day, there is a light. As there is a highest state of doing good and peace there is also a lowest state of suffering and evil..... Brother You need to trust yourself. You will grow. Dont go to the gym. Eat a lot of clean food, peanutus, fresh fruits, good vegetables, proteins... Do push-ups, and more push ups and pull ups and chin ups. Dont give up. I did my form almost only from push-ups, many variations of push-ups. I wasnt about instant progress, I was about overall progress. Life is a marathon not a sprint. God will help You. Don't worry.

You will see changes I promise, just dont give up brother.

>>33905829
See:>>33905528
NOFap Helps a ton brother, don't give up.


Do You guys know why I respond to those people? Because when Jesus was teaching he didnt went to the places that had many good in them and God. He went into the darkest alleys of the cities to the most corrupcted and dark places. We need to firstly, most importantly save those who are at their lowest points. Save and help those who need the light of God the most.

God bless everyone in this thread
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>>33905923
My skin is also smoother and shinier. NoFap works and people who pretend it doesn't just prefer to keep on fapping and wasting energy.
We will help them. Everyone has a chance. God will help
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>>33905929
>>33905924
God Blesses you too brother.
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>>33905857
so you never had sex and never tried to have sex either? you never masturbated? what are you doing in your life?
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>>33902977
This Jewish pysop again. All these "spiritual gains" are nothing but placebo bullshit that you can get if you really believe in them regardless of your cooming habits. Those who claim that jews are the ones promoting porn and "degeneracy" are poltards who never did even an inkling of research on the topic of Jews.

Nofap is just the moral law against wasting seed repackaged for the dumbasses of the modern area. Trad Redpilled antisemite retards fall for jewish tricks, and its genuinely sad how often it happens.
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33906087
>Jewish
>placebo bullshit
>jews don't promote porn, it's just a coincidence
>repackaged
>pilpul pilpul
Sure, buddy!
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>>33902977
nofap makes me feel like shit. so does fapping. every thought about sex as a man makes me feel like shit, to be completely honest

i am very envious of women, female sexuality, the female orgasm, so on, so on.

idk if it does anything but i actually wish i were a woman, all of male sexuality just feels super unpleasant to me
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>>33906111
They continuously go against both porn and wasting seed. There are people of jewish ethnicity who work for it but the rabbis hate it. I received all the benefits from nofap while still fapping. The greater work ethic, motivation, female attention, etc. Prove it is not a placebo or concede.
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>>33902977
>focus on Solar Plexus chakra
>energy leaves Root chakra and flows upward
>stop being horny

I think nofap is more of a symptom of the practice than a cause. Energy vampires in particular are said to be asexual because they are more concerned about ethereal matters than the physical plane.
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>>33906163
If this is true, then I'm happy for you that you have these benefits. I really do and wish that you conserve them and amplify them and that they serve you in your life.
All I can do from this end of the screen is to invite yourself to prove it to yourself by your own living experience.
And to be honest this other anon gym dude made me shift my mood and I don't want to argue you.
I stand by what I said as Truth and I know with my whole being it's not placebo.
Finally, friend, I wish that the Truth will keep revealing to both you and me and that we will both Grow in order to serve the True and Only God and the True Truth.
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>>33902977
There are no benefits to masturbation. Sex with a partner on the other hand is extremely beneficial.
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>>33902977
it affects hormones and hormone receptors.
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>>33906171
>focus on Solar Plexus chakra
it's funny how even the most accomplished yoga masters don't even know what the fuck this means or how to do it to this day
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>>33906368
isn't supposedly in the center area of torsowhere the ribs end and the stomach entrance begins?
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>>33906279
The fuck there isn't!!! Masturbation helps prevent prostate cancer, I've known about this since 2012; ejaculation is needed to prevent cancer, whether or by sex or masturbation.
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>>33906407
who the fuck cares if the solar plexus is in your torso or in your ass when nobody fucking knows how to activate it or any chakra for that matter. it's all "greater than thou" bullshit that every religion has
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>>33906432
ejaculation isn't what helps prevent against prostate cancer, all you need is to have an erection once in a while or masturbate without ejaculating and you'll be working out your prostate
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>>33906368
I picked it up on my own after joining the vampire cabal.
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>>33906522
Elaborate on said cabal.
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>>33906436
>who the fuck cares
I do
>how to activate it or any chakra for that matter
do you by any chance happen to know how?
>it's all "greater than thou" bullshit
What made you arrive to this conclusion, you can answer in general terms and briefly I don't need specifics, but I genuinely ask all this.
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>>33906444
based trips of Truth
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>>33906573
It's a group if immortal beings that use their god particle to sustain themselves. They use a modified form of blood magic that's ethereal based instead because modern blood is tainted, making them mortal. Basically I let someone cast a spell on me to screw around with my etheric body. I guess they're looking for replacements because the old guard was poisoned by tainted blood.
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>>33906577
bro if the activation of chakras was such common knowledge the hindu apocalypse would have happened long ago. everyone would be avatars controlling nature and it would be chaos. but as it turns out chakras are a mysterious thing to everyone including the yoga """masters""" that supposedly have unlocked all chakras but they still can't do anything supernatural. the vedas are full of mysteries and it's such a shame that indians pretend like they know it all
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>>33906664
wanna know how i know you're larping? i'll give you a hint, none of the ancient religions even allude to any of your bullshit
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>>33902977
There has been one time in my life, for a period of a week, where I was able to defeat the urge to masturbate. This happened completely at random. I thought about fapping and just said, "no, I have better things to do and it's a waste of my time". That week was strongest I've felt mentally in the last 15 years. I was more disciplined, more high energy, more productive, more willing to engage with the world, and a few other mental improvements.

Eventually I started talking myself back in fapping with stupid shit like, "I wonder how much cum I built up", "I wonder if it will feel much better now that I've given my dick a break", etc, and relapsed from there. There was a massive improvement to me as a human being and I've been chasing that ability to just not feel the need to masturbate.

In terms of the negative effects of masturbation, science aside,
>I can spend an hour+ a day browsing porn and stroking my dick
That time could be used doing something else
>I sit there hunched over half the time I'm fapping
This is not good for my posture/back
>I feel like it is tainting my mind and viewing everything like a coomer
As eventually I became desensitised to extreme shit, and I don't even wince when I see someone being fisted with a completely prolapsed anus like I did on another blue board a couple of hours ago
>I am damaging the skin on my dick
self explanatory, but because I can't abstain, I don't let it get any better

My life would be better if I didn't do it, but I guess I am addicted, yeah.
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>>33906699
I don't care if you think I'm larping. I'm just stating my experience with how I work with chakras.
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You can have a gay argument about the benefits but the reality is in todays world it helps to abstain from many daily habits. There’s a whole other side of our bodies and minds we never tap into due to being over satisfied.
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>>33906786
Have you read easypeasy.pdf?
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>>33906862
I have not. Wut dat?
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>>33903101
As you get older you have less desire for jerking off constantly anyway
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>>33906851
I'm 100% with you. What do you think are the most important things to 'get rid of' or decrease usage?
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>>33906815
your experience has no basis in reality whatsoever, which is a problem if you want to achieve the supernatural power that the ancient gods did
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you can do it anon
your brain watching a screen with unlimited porn is not normal
stop watching porn
stop fapping
take control of your life
it won't be easy but you can do it
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>>33906894
I seem to be progressing despite the magician who cast the spell on me being a total nutter. Honestly I wasn't really paying attention to his ramblings but I paraphrased what I remembered from pages worth of his nonsense.
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>>33906922
progressing what? you either achieve immortality or you don't. anything else is just coping
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>>33906884
Know your triggers. Daily shadow work reinforces this. There’s a version of you that’s a sexual degenerate wasting cum everywhere. Personify it if you must, but know it’s an aspect of you that society tries to normalize.

Mantak Chia has a lot of work relating to transmuting the very energy we describe as “getting rid of”. You’re really just learning about it and putting it to use elsewhere. Look up a beginner's book on Kundalini if you need further reading. Psychology even helps if you want to approach it on the basis of why you specifically like the type of graphic imagery you usually find yourself fapping to. Seems like a lot but I lost interest in fapping once I broke it down to its fundamentals.
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the hell is appening
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>>33906940
activating my chakras like I said.
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>>33906973
again, there's no progressing involved in that. it's not like the chakras slowly go from 0% to 100% activation, no they're either activated or they aren't. but then again chakras are just a metaphor and/or an allegory, you naive for taking them literally
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>>33906884
Thank you.
Regarding the
>many daily habits
you commented it'd be good to abstain from as well
What are these habits? If I may ask.
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>>33906981
>no they're either activated or they aren't
What do you mean? Are you saying I'm supposed to be superman instantly? You sound like you've never read anything about cultivation practice or how it works. Are you an ignorant christfag trying to get under my skin?
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Now I'm trying to remove the links to see if it works
Dude, this is some serious shit, I've tried five times to share it now but I can't. Just go search for it
search for it as I wrote initially
it seems something or someone doesn't want me to share it or doesn't want you to read it either way go check it out right now.
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>>33907031
>Are you saying I'm supposed to be superman instantly?
according to the vedas yes, you know the scriptures that are fundamental to hinduism? you either drink the soma drink and achieve moksha, or you don't drink it and you're stuck on this shithole we call earth
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>>33907044
this
>>33906965
>>33906878
>>33906786
is for you
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>>33906993
Eating is a big one. Anything you do daily without thinking about it you should take a break from, within reason.
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>>33907048
I'm not ready to leave yet but I can do the bliss thing by focusing on a part of my brain.
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>>33907055
>>33907044
>>33906906
>>33906878
>>33906862
>>33906786
gro.dohtemysaepysae
write that backwards
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>>33907078
>I'm not ready to leave
leave what? moksha isn't about leaving the earth, it's just about being immune to death and the suffering of life. that's how you escape the cycle of reincarnation, by simply not reincarnating; if you don't die then you can't reincarnate, ez
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>>33907055
>>33907085

Just googled it and looking at it now. Thanks bro
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>>33907100
You got this by the balls, brother, no pun intended.
All the best to you.
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>>33907095
Only way I see being immune to death is being incorporeal.
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>>33907129
you lack imagination. don't you know that the reason why we age is because we're programmed to in our dna? all we need to do is do some auto-mutagenesis (aka independently mutate our own dna) and voila, not only can we stop aging but we can change our bodies in whatever way we desire physically, and to allow our brain to evolve to the point where we have psychic powers to influence nature and reality. the trick is, how to have this ability without being dependent on technology? that's where the ancient mysteries come in, the gods were once human beings who found this secret, all we need to do is follow the breadcrumbs they laid out for us
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>>33907152
Eh I don't believe in any of that though I appear to have stopped aging.
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>>33907152
>auto-mutagenesis
I want to do this right now. What do.
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>>33907192
if you truly stopped aging then you should also be able to summon fire pillars and split the sea in two. stop being ignorant
>>33907195
if i knew i wouldn't be here trying to convince you to find out lol, i'm not going to larp and pretend like i know the greatest secret of life without providing proof. you just gotta seek truth and never stop seeking until you find the way to this power
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>>33907260
kek
I think we are doing auto-mutagenesis every single instant. Only we are unaware of it/can't control it.
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>>33907282
no you're referring to regular mutagenesis, which at it's worst is called cancer. auto-mutagenesis means to be fully in control of your dna at any moment, which implies that your dna heals itself constantly making things like cancer or radiation damage impossible. look up the shroud of turin btw, one of the theories was that jesus emanated radiation during his coming back to life. i'm not a christian, but there definitely are alot of mysteries when it comes to jesus and the old testament, but the bible is just one mysterious book among many others
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>>33907260
So I can do basic energy work but I can't because I'm not instantly superhuman even though all the Chi Kung books say it takes decades of practice. Something isn't adding up here.
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>>33907331
there have been hundreds of thousands of buddhist monks who have practiced and meditated for their entire lifetimes to desperately try to achieve an inkling of supernatural power, yet never did. but then buddha himself just sits by a fig tree and achieves infinite supernatural power nearly instantly? something isn't adding up here, what a shame that you're not even able to put two and two together. do keep in mind that buddha refuted both asceticism and hedonism, so do with that what you will, which you'll probably ignore this knowledge since you're so fucking attached to your current belief system. the only constant in this world is change, and to not change is to not be a part of this world.
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>>33907355
I'm not going to join a temple and become a cultist if that's what you mean. I'm going to continue living life normally and do cultivation work every day because it makes me feel good and keeps my organs healthy.
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>>33907466
>I'm not going to join a temple and become a cultist
i've never even implied such a dumb fucking thing, where did you get that idea? you're on the internet bro, self-initiate yourself already. the government doesn't give a shit if you seek esoteric knowledge, there's no point in joining a secret society because there's no more need for secrecy. all that i'm trying to tell you is that you need to seek the way to supernatural power and immortality FOR YOUR SAKE, not mine. you're going to die like an animal too stubborn to change because of your ignorance, can't you see that? unfortunately almost everyone on this gay earth shares your ignorant mentality, so be it. truth-seekers are few in this world, and the accomplished immortals are the fewest of the few.
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>>33907497
If I'm going to be immortal I'd rather be incorporeal so I can fuck off when shit gets weird.
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>>33907529
holy shit you lack imagination, you don't even know what being incorporeal entails, it's a completely theoretical thing that you have no way of knowing how it would be applicable in real life. meanwhile if you're physically immortal, not only will you know with 100% absolute certainty you're physically immortal, you can just go underground and/or join others who are physically immortal, aka the gods.
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>>33902977
((they)) watch you masturbate, Truman. ((they)) know what filthy porn you watch. you have nothing to hide because it is already known and plain to see.
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Anyone recommending nofap deserves to die. Noporn is good for you though
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>>33907640
What about nocum?
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shills one and all
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>>33907653
You need to fap at least once a week. 2-3 times per week if you don't have a hole to put it in. That means cumming. Best is to not have a hole, just do a powerfap for 5 minutes so you don't lose any of your vitality.
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>>33903836
You are very ego driven. Like I was. You touch upon it without understanding it, capture it in words without living it. Out of love, I am saying this, Go Back. For here is a dark forest where meanings cannot be divided from their anti-meanings and all things destroy themselves. In silence you will find the answer which I suspect you already know.
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>>33905550
Your gastrocs look fucked up from incorrect body mechanics
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>>33908576
Not that anon but my whole body looks fucked up from incorrect body mechanics. I notice assymetries everywhere
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>>33905924
Amen brother!

8th day nofap and i feel absolutely great! I can feel that god is guiding me. I was lost many years because i turned my back to lord and i used weed and alcohol alot to take away the emptiness inside. After new year something happened and i been praying alot for forgiveness and help. Now i been sober 20 days and im not gonna give up!
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>>33902977
Christianity was a mistake
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>>33905916
Nope. Went to gym and did cardio every day, only eat clean foods and plenty of greens. Then meditation or yoga most days. Not cumming made me more irritable because of the urges due to seeing women with sexy clothes every day.
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Well, today is the 15th day of not even having a boner (cold af, only go shopping once a week in a village full of old people and no women coworkers). In the past 2 or 3 days I felt stinging now and then inside my urethra. Just went to the toilet and I'm pretty sure I pissed a bit of blood. My routine is always the same and I drink at least 2L of water per day. If the stinging continues I'm cumming tonight.
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I am now at some 160 days or so, but my longest streak was around a year. It definitely changes how you view yourself, if you're asking for more on-the-ground effect of SR. I also noticed that my creativity went waaaay up and that I feel more energised. Seeing an attractive woman now puts me into a trans for a second and poetry is easy to make for me now. I noticed that after I started I had way more thoughts of gratitude and how I love my life and all, even when it's shitty sometimes. Spiritually I cannot attest, however I tried to do a ritual using sex magic once and it worked for the thing I intended.
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>>33902977
if you already just cum once a week or something you are fine. But the problem is when you cum like 5 times in a row daily, then I guess you will notice something in your body
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>>33907552
>”you lack imagination”
>slave-morality, fixated on initiation
>thinks the answer is in the past not the future
>too autistic to realize the map isn’t the territory
Literally the definition of ngmi. Low trait openness/judging personality. Can’t think dynamically.
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I did it for twelve days, was super horny most of the time. It made me more open to the idea of getting a ONS. Now I will try doing a hard no fap and no porn for 3 months to see if there are really any effects. To be honest porn seems pretty shit, I hardly enjoy it these days, most of the times I fap to it out of habbit. Whereas pics of women, etc. all seem way nicer. I'm somewhat sex addicted and unironically the only reason I want to do this is to fuck more often and to push myself into looking better.
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>>33911421
how is self-initiation "slave-morality"? learning from what the ancient immortals left behind is crucial in order to understand how they achieved what they achieved. you can't be certain of how to achieve immortality when relying on the future, that doesn't make sense, the point of the future is that it can't be predicted by mortals and is therefore unreliable to us. you're saying i'm ignorant but i'm not seeing you refuting my arguments. if one has found the greatest truth that brings the greatest benefit, then it is only right to be ignorant of lower truths that bring little to no benefit.
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>>33902977
I became so jaded with that whole aspect of life by my mid twenties that I just stopped thinking about it altogether. I am now 33. I don't know if you can will yourself asexual, but I feel like I've somehow psychologically castrated myself. I've had women throw themselves at me since then and all I feel is disgust. The thought of touching myself just sounds boring. It is definitely possible to go too far over the line in the other direction.
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>>33905756

Mega blessed
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>>33902977
Look at the benefits of cumming every day and the benefits of abstinence and weight them out and rank the benefits in a higher or lower rank and finally I would simply trust my gut and set my goals
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>>33902977 nah it's just a cope
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>>33902995
>Less degenerate mindset
The opposite happened for me. I stopped wanking for a month to see what would happen. I couldn't stop thinking about sex. My urges became an order of magnitude stronger. It's better to just get it out IMO.
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>>33902977
I was groomed as a kid by a cousin, he taught me about masturbation by taking my hand and since starting to do it myself I've tried to leave it at times but I can't be sure if my body is too used to it. Long story short, I wish that turning time was possible and use my hand to punch that faggot, if I only knew.
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>>33903484
cope, you are a cuck in denial
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>>33902977
Well a guy was saying the other day casual sex drains the soul. I go “I agree, I’m leaking ectoplasm.”

On that note, would that qualify as “soul food?”
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>>33905916
>communist
spotted the cope
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>>33905924
god is not real, you are a faggot
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>>33905528
based
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>>33906087
>jewish tricks
They value their semen highly.

Onun knew that the children would not go after him, he therefore spilled his seed on the ground... His actions were bad in the eyes of G-D, he therefore killed him too. (Berashis 38/9-10)

One who purposely causes an erection places himself in excommunication. (Talmod Niddah 13)

Whoever wastes seed, thinks impure thoughts, or does something to cause temptation deserves death. (Talmod Niddah)

For many were the evil of man... they committed every possible act of evil, however theirfate (generation of flood) was not sealed until they threw their blood down on the floor. What is the meaning of this, they would spill their seed on the ground. (Zohar, Berashis)

Spilling seed is more severe then all sins, since he defiles his soul in this world and the world to come and he does not see the glory of the shichenah. (Zohar Vyeshev)

R’ Yochanan spoke up and said all those who waste seed are punishable by death. Rav Ami said it is as if he sheds blood. Rav Ashi says it is as if he worships strange deities. (Medrish Hagdol Vayeshev)

Rav Acha bar Yashya said whoever wastes seed equates himself to an animal. Just like an animal does not care what it does, so to this person randomly commits this sin. Just like an animal is set aside to be slaughtered and does not receive life in the future world so to this person stands to die and does not live in the future world. (Medrish Hagdol Vyashev)

Why does the verse say Tinuf (you should not commit adulteries) which is in plural form, it comes to include those who spill seed.
(Tanah Divi R’ Yishmoel)
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>>33919063
It is prohibited to emit seed in waste. Those that do are put into excommunication, and it is as if he killed another person.
(Rambam esuray biah 21/18)

One who spills seed, bais din is commanded to place him in cherem.
(Ramban M.M. E.B. 21/18)

"Bad in the eyes of G-D” like the sin of Onun, who would spill his seed.
(Rashi Berashis 38/7)

“and also their children” this was counted as murder, meaning they wasted seed and did not repent. (Rashi Yichezkel 23/37)

This was the flaw of the generation of the flood, they would waste their seed. (Rashi Shabbos 41)

More severe then all sins is one who spills seed, for he spills the blood of his kids for all eternity. In addition all sins can be rectified, but this one has no rectification. (Sharai Kedusha 2/8)

One has to be extremely careful with his bris... He should never cause an improper erection... Be very careful not to damage the attribute of yesod. (Tomar Devorah 8, Ramak)

One who spills seed flaws his own thought process as well as the upper knowledge. (Kitvi Ari)

His prayers are not accepted (Shlah 100)

He loses his ability to understand torah (Kav Hayoshar 68)

He causes the lengthening of exile, plagues and all tragedies. His children will also follow the path of evil. (Mam Loez Vayeshev)

Heaven forbid that one should defile his holy seed in such a manner.
(Ravah Vayeshev)

Spilling seed destroys the world, it is counted as if he kills someone. This is referred to in the verse “one who slaughters his kids”. (SvT Maharil 4)

Those who destroy their seed bring a flood to this world. (SvT Radboz 596/3)

He will be placed in excommunication, like all those who spill their seed.
(SvT Radboz 161/5)
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>>33919078
He gives power to the forces of evil and weakens the tribunal on high as is known to those wise of the truth, the masters of kabbalah. (SvT Yavetz 43/1)

Know that a person who spills seed creates spirits of destruction.
(SvT Rav Poalim)

Spilling seed is totally prohibited, there is never a time when it is permitted. (SvT Rav Poalim 2/3)

There are opinions that spilling seed is dioraysah (biblical transgression).
(SvT Siredi Aish)
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>>33902977
>Does not ejaculating actually do something? Some practices say it does and others say it doesn't
Mostly dependent on practice. Neither extreme does anything and the whole thing nowadays, especially in /x/, seems like some retardation stemming from people finding "new cool thing to get powers" because they'd rather see themselves as achieving things by not stroking their dicks and feel good. If you show moderation in your indulgences, having an orgasm won't mess you up, but if your practice isn't built about whether you orgasm or not, the effect may be neglible.

Otherwise, it's just a pleasant thing that otherwise is also slightly taxing to your body's resources. Do it too much and you will weaken the body. Rather than listening to preachers you can notice on your own - plenty of folks who for various reasons - be they ideological, mental or other - completely refuse to indulge in any sexual acts, including masturbation - and they're otherwise just regular shmucks like any other. Plenty of people who are sexually active, and they're also just regular shmucks.

Don't look for shortcuts to the divine in a simple act of jerking it. It may matter, but only if you will look behind what it is to you and how it affects your particular tradition you practice - where some will be dependent on semen retention and similar while others won't even touch upon the subject at all.
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>>33919123
I guess my problem is that I'm an indecisive person and want things to be real, so I keep thinking "what if it's actually real? I'll be cumming and then regret it because it might me real"
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>>33919123
This must be it, a matter of own will and paying attention to your body, hopefully I'll use this hand to please some women when the time comes at least.
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>>33903048
the fact that there is so much red tape and disinfo is good enough evidence for me to not watch porn and only cum from fucking, i can feel the lure of porn on myself and it's very telling, also i'm a retard but i find it way too fucking difficult to ban sites on google chrome, like they don't want you to ban harmful sites
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>>33902995
>>Less degenerate mindset
I tried it and I can confirm that this is certainly not the case.

>>33903969
midwit iq
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>>33917110
>The opposite happened for me.
Anon this is the case for every single nofapper.
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>>33920079
>disinfo
>good enough evidence for me to not watch porn
>also i'm a retard
Yeah, we could tell. Disinfo exists on both sides. Porn has existed since at least ancient Greece in the form of paintings and it was common for men to watch others having sex, which is pretty much irl porn. Put a VR headset on with a VR video and it's basically the same.
And just get an extension to block websites or block it in the router.
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>>33919082
>>33919078
Holy shit I didn't know it was this bad. They're obsessed. Thanks for the info dump anon.
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>>33919063
>>33919082
>>33919078
So, one should masturbate and cum? Because everything jews say is lies and the opposite must be done.
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You are not supposed to know you are doing better. A healthy progress is silent, the brain mitigates changes of condition into normalcy. The flat line is the truth.
Those looking for benefits are stuck in a vicious circle.
Even if you achieve Goku energy level you must feel some sort of weakness at some point or you get lost from reality.
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>>33902977
This is so stupid. How much time do you waste being horny instead of just getting off? Most likely more than if you just mastubated once a day or a few times a week. Also... ejaculating frequently leads to a LOWER risk of prostate cancer.
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>>33925180
https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/ejaculation-prostate-cancer-risk
How didn’t matter -- sex, masturbation, or wet dreams were all included.
>wet dreams
I guess that's why we have them, therefore masturbation and sex seems to not be required.
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>>33919078
Imagine being such a cuck to listen to this material drivel... creating another child aka not wasting seed is the most bluepilled thing to do.

Nofap should be done to end porn or change perspective. It's no use when you >>33925180 waste time being horny. The prostate cancer thing is nonsense though.
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>>33925527
I'd rather not risk it just for a dumb ass superiority complex and an undesirable amount of horniness and or wet dreams. That's how men end up making irresponsible choices.
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>>33921768
everything they say to goyim*
this wasn't meant for us to read
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>>33925555
my condolences to the anon you replied to for getting absolutely fucking destroyed by your quads. asceticism is indeed a waste of time and you could argue it's even as harmful as hedonism, but then again even buddha rejected asceticism
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>>33925568
Nigger, even buddha said its better to stick your cock in a pit of fire than in a woman
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>>33925582
citation needed, but then that'd be contradicting his whole middle way teaching
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>>33925582
Maybe he had a heat fetish... you don't KNOW him.
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>>33903048
I get depression for at least a day when i nut. It fucks with me.

For someone who cooms daily they might not ever be able to tell what the mental clarity after not cooming feels like.
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>>33902977

Test increase for 7 days then drops to prepubescent levels because there is no reason to produce test if you are not reproducing
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>>33925645
Every person is different. Some males make an excessive amount of semen and it has to go somewhere eventually...
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>>33925582
>>33925584
>>33925589
No its a buddhist saying and it was that its better to stick your peener into the mouth of a snake than a woman

Conclusion: he was an xcom fan
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>>33925567
But it's public for everyone to see...
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>>33925645
Jokes on you, I'm always depressed. People told me to go to a professional, but all they do is hear you, not and prescribe pills.
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>>33925656
THIS
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>>33925659
so is porn
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>>33925799
Yes, and? Just because something is public doesn't mean it's bad.
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>>33925652
What happens after day 8? Or after day 30? Day 90?
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>>33925180
To be honest I don't think I'm more or less horny now after 90 days than I was when I nutted daily.
But at least I no longer waste hours looking for pictures of sexy women.

Don't have prostate cancer yet, still have morning wood every day so everything is still functioning.
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>>33925943
The pattern is the same over and over. It increases on the 7th, 14th, 21st, 28th and so on. After the increase it always goes back to base level. This is what I've been saying and there's numerous public papers you can read, but you retards only read posts that contain an image due to low attention span.
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>>33925821
porn sure is bad
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>>33926035
Why? What's the difference from watching it irl?
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>>33926082
why would you watch others have sex are you a cuckold
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>>33906444
Who the hell masturbates w/o ejaculating? Blue balls are the worst
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>>33903011
This & sexual abuse degenerated them, real dark shit
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>>33926319
blue balls are great what are you talking about, sure at first it's uncomfortable but you get used to it and it even feels good when your balls are heavy and big. i thought my girlfriend would find that weird but she actually likes it, but hey maybe she's a cum vampire because once every two weeks or so she begs me to cum in her mouth so she can swallow, i'm pretty sure it makes her stronger because she tells me she feels superhuman afterwards
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I hereby have come to the conclusion that the truth lies in the middle ground between the two extremes, as with most things. I have fapped a lot in my time and carefully observed my appearance with nofap in mind for a good number of years. I have noticed detrimental effects, and positive changes when I abstain. but despite my years of fapping, my hair is still thick, and I have an objectively good looking healthy body, young for my years. My beard does grow strangely so there is that. I think it is not quite as dire of consequences as some make it out to be, unless you do it a lot over a very long period of time. Therein lies the power of the destruction I suppose, as it is subtle and barely noticeable enough in the short term that most people wouldn't pay it any credence.i hold hope that I can still be a powerful and beautiful individual despite the damage I have done, though I may not shine as brightly as I could have.
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>>33926261
Entertainment. I never did it, but it's been done for millenia.
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>>33926334
only in your fantasies virgin-kun
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>>33926029
The base level rises after each spike correct?
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>>33928557
No. It increases as you grow up and then stabilizes at around 25 years old. Then it starts decreasing at some point in life by 1 to 2% each year. You can, however, help by eating testosterone boosting foods, but don't expect it to make your dick bigger and easier to grow muscle. See it more as preventative instead of cure.
Only reason I know this is because I'm into /fit/ and actually put things in practice. So I can also say that during the peak of my journey I was eating way more than normal, lifting more and for more time, masturbating and cumming almost every day after workout (best wanks I ever had, maybe because the blood was flowing pretty well) and felt great.
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>>33904847
You fucked someone in the sixth grade?
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>>33902977
The picture in OP literally describes "turning water into wine". Close eyes to gather Spirit, keep the body still and observe, how hard is it? Keep body still and your mind quiet long enough and you'll feel movement in stillness, your right kidney will spring a leak, all happens from there.
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>>33903099
you lost them because you are a faggot
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>>33902977
the problem is not semen by itself, its porn, porn induce you to a unnatural expectations about sex, jerk off many times you want, but quit porn, you will realize your sexual desire doesnt diminish and you will enjoy more normal bodies, you will also be more satisfied with sex.
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>>33929373
So I'm supposed to not have a single boner during Winter? It's fucking cold, I don't work with women, there's only old and ugly ones when I go shopping once a week which takes 5 minutes and I don't have sex nor want to. That's what porn is for. It also keeps a man from doing stupid things. About 5 years ago I followed my dick instead of my brain and went on holidays to my home country just for a girl that supposedly liked me but once I got there she changed her mind. I could have saved money and my sanity just by wankin to porn.
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>>33902977
Do semen retention
Don’t even do lustful thoughts and precum is a relapse
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why watch porn when your can imagine and fantasize things with your brain? if anything it's way more intense, and don't get me started on lucid dreaming
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>>33926035
If someone has a healthy view on sex, porn will not effect them negatively. The only negative effects you can see are caused by conflicts between your jewish morals and the viewing of porn. You give in to the former and denounce the latter in order to look righteous. None of the problems that you see are innate to porn unless you prove otherwise.
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Listen to guys that do it, try it yourself, make up your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/@vigorwarriors2823
https://www.youtube.com/@NanaTheSoul
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>>33906133
You need to find a gf and fuck her, that's the correct.
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>>33929467
Because I don't have to and I can do both.. Simple as.
>>33931240
We all know everyone on youtube talking about this is lying.
>>33931433
What makes you think everyone wants sex and a partner? I certainly don't want one and if I wanted sex I'd just get a nice whore, but I'm 30 and chose to be a virgin.
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>>33902977
It does
t. knower
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>>33902977
That last frame is some truly cringe-worthy larp.
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>>33932954
>nice whore
Nice way to fuck yourself spiritually
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>>33934306
So you're saying one shouldn't have sex? Make up your mind.
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>>33931433
>You need to find a gf and fuck her, that's the correct.
i don't really want that though

i wish i were the girl. i hate being masculine
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>>33902977
it makes my dick hurt, i tell you hwat
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>>33926653
>but it's been done for millenia.
I also watched history channel's Vikings
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Was on a 3 week stretch up until yesterday and I feel the difference. When I was retaining I felt this sort of electricity running through me, I was abnormally confident and calm, but at the same time aggressive. Talking to women was no problem and I felt much more in tune with myself. Gave into demons yesterday telling me that of course I’m horny, I’m lifting like a maniac and need to release a little bit of steam. Started looking at some pictures, decided to blow a fat load, and instantly felt like part of me had left my body. I’m recovering pretty well but the difference is palpable. Maybe finding a good girl to have a relationship with is the option, I refuse to have sex again until it’s someone I love but that seems harder to accomplish when you’re horny all the time, that parts probably on me and I need to change my mindset about women. But anyways yeah there’s a significant difference unless you have extremely low testosterone
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>>33934691
Go read some books. Start with the Greeks.
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>>33934749
Even having a gf won't work in the long run. Most couples fuck like crazy on the first year and then it reduces to about once every 3 to 5 months. Everyone I work with is pretty open and that's what they say. Most of them are 40+.
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>>33935306
>the Greeks were raging degenerates meme
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>>33935466
I can tell you lack reading comprehension due to the fact that I never mentioned it was the Greeks. You'd know the saying if you went on /lit/. This further proves semen retention is for retards only.
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>>33935587
>you're a retard
>proof: you don't visit /lit/
>haha i win this internet debate with this genius ad hominem
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yes, bumping
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>>33902977
If 39 then it's confirmed I should not fap.
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>>33937863
63 is similar.
9 is for god,
6 is for human
3 is for nature
as far as I understand. I'm not sure what it means in this particular context, though. Perhaps that there is no god in pursuing beastly instincts and human addictions?
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>>33937879
It means he posted and turns out his post number is that, you autistic retard.
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>>33937904
I wrote both of those posts and I never pretended otherwise
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>>33902977
You can only do it if you confess your sins. Demons get access to us through our sins. The demons create uncontrollable lust. The best exorcism is a good confession. Nothing feels better than a good confession
https://youtu.be/UCdVWqD8IkY
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>>33937961
You don't have to confess, since when you die and are facing god you can repent there and then and he'll let you in. Easy as.
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Day 5 today. I got really horny on day 2 and it stayed that way through day 3. On day 4 I started having homosexual compulsions, I assume this is a last ditch effort to get me to coom. But as of now I am over them. Now I just feel tired and lethargic. Does it get better bros?
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>>33903101
>no different at all except that nobody can look me in the eye and call me a wanker.
That's already something important.
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Fapping is for autistic retards.
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>>33902977
Perspective is everything. Whether you think fapping drains you psychosexually, or it has no effect at all as you're a virile man with limitless resources on tap - either way, you're right. It is because of inner conversations that make one feel like a creep around women. Take the porn away, and those can still be there. Everything is just a personal preference. If you cannot reconcile being someone who loves themselves and also occasionally faps, then don't.
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A post written by based hands
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From my experience, the benefits of the practice take months to kick in. Having been a user on and off for years, both going to and from the practice over the course of close to 15 years, the amount of time required for the benefits to arrive take longer than just a week or two.

It is a practice in self control first and foremost, and with this comes many, many positives. The issue for anyone trying to achieve the benefits is itself this grandiose idea that enlightenment will be achieved. Even worse so, the idea that it will be achieved in a matter of weeks.

It is not enlightenment you should be seeking because of some practice in self control.

It is the practice in self control that leads to enlightenment, or any other positive expression in your own life for that matter.

Take a look at what you really gain from something like masturbation, and consider if it is even bringing anything positive to your life, and go from there.

There are only some many hours in a day, anon, how are you spending them?
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Uhh i dont think anyone here can give out advice to me. None of you are jesus or buddha or anything.
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BRUH the amount of suffering the nofap/yourbrainonporn movement is creating on young males is insane, not jerking off wont change your life around, its just like a catalyst to give you some more self confidence. Spiritual pursuits require you to do actual work with it like brahmacharya, qigong
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>>33904280
hey i know what that is
I bought one from a street vendor when i was in India a few years back
Its the weapon of the thunder god
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>>33902995
>never nutting for the rest of your life
You are onto this?
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>>33902977
Get above 100 iq then I'll listen faggot
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>>33902977
Not worth it
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I'm going back to cumming tomorrow. Sunday marks 3 weeks I haven't done a thing and been very quiet and lethargic, but keep working. Until this cunt at work did something to me and I almost cracked his head open and had my blood boiling the rest of the day.
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No, it's just something humans have been doing since they were cavemen.
https://wikiless.org/wiki/History_of_masturbation?lang=en#Ancient_history
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If you're not an active person you will feel like a regular virgin. You will have to apply energy to something, because if not, you will stress up. It's simple, you have to spend energy on something. Not rocket science.

If you're already an active man that has a demanding schedule and have sex sometimes, it will boost your energy, but then again, if you already look like a man and have some basic instinctual energy, it will make you very aggressive.
Only fat lazy addicted people with deficient testosterone levels and a soft bringing use nofap cult to function normally.
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>>33902977
Just bought an onahole.
It's friday.
Just came in it.

All my onahole cum is sacrificed to Freyja.
I love Freyja.
Hail Odin.
Love shall triumph over the evils of saturn.
The fall of Babylon is near.
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It made my whole family turn against me after a three month steak and people would randomly flirt with me try to get my attention or provoke me it was insane
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Also men and women both would be insanely attracted to me or hate my guts for no reason
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>>33903969
Ted K. was right
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>>33905850
> f it's possible to direct the energy released during orgasms to a specific person
cum on some girls face?
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>>33934531
You should. But not with prostitutes and random girls you met
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>>33943352
But I don't want a gf. I like to be alone.



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