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You can express your last dreams, your attempts and ask anything about it

WBTB: https://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/WBTB-Tutorial
MILD: http://skyfalldreams.net/guides/skyfalls-mild-guide/
additional MILD info:
http://skyfalldreams.net/guides/skyfalls-intention-setting/
SSILD: https://www.dreamviews.com/induction-techniques/129734-senses-initiated-lucid-dream-ssild.html
WILD: https://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/WILD-Tutorial
FILD: https://www.dreamviews.com/induction-techniques/36683-finger-induced-lucid-dream-fild.html
DEILD: https://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/DEILD-Tutorial
CANWILD: https://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initiated-lucid-dreams-wild/87710-%2A%2Acrazyinsanes-wild-tutorial-%2A%2A.html
CAT: https://www.dreamviews.com/wiki/CAT-Tutorial
ADA: https://www.dreamviews.com/induction-techniques/113253-all-day-awareness-dild-tutorial-kingyoshi.html

Paper on natural LDs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6290891/

Youtube Guides:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjAIlFZWWc&t=790s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dj9gTiLHf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BMnGi8yxTQ

Do us a favor and bump this general from time to time if you're interested

Quick reminders for beginners:
-don't forget to write your dreams down after waking up. no matter how little detail, just do it
-reality checks aren't likely to give you a LD by themselves, think of them as a stepping stool, they are not a replacement for techniques
-WBTB is mostly mandatory for most people, if you struggle with your sleep schedule then ADA is your best option
-if you're just starting out you should be doing WBTB in addition to either SSILD or MILD as those two are the easiest techniques
-while WILD and it's derivatives [FILD, DEILD and CANWILD] may sound alluring to some of you, if you cannot fall asleep within 10~20mins you're gonna have a really hard time achieving a WILD
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Bumping this so it stays up to when I'm back, I'm not training for lucid dreaming but it started becoming extremely vivid, so I have a question
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>last thread died before bump limit
bumpdayobros... not like this
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I've been training myself to start lucid dreaming. So far, my dreams are getting more and more vivid, but the lucidity is weak at the moment.

Question: what are the practical uses of lucid dreams? Can I change my subconscious this way?
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Is this the thread for dream interpretation?.
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>>33437550
There are many uses. I know someone who trains his skills this way (for example painting), I know a guy who likes to fly around, jump from the everest and dive down flying, or break the speed of sound, or walk in another planet. I know someone who claims to be able to talk with spirits that way, and another person who just uses it to fuck around and do whatever he wants to. Your sky is the limit when it comes to lucid dreaming, really
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>>33437550
im unsure what you mean by changing the subconscious but as for practical uses you can practice skills and overcome fears in a LD, you can re experience old memories and your subconscious questions about anything
>>33437571
sure
>>33437540
im only one person dayo, i feel asleep before bumping.. sorry about that
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>>33437652
I bump it too sometimes but my pass expired and I was not going to solve a captcha to post on 4chinz. Appreciate your work desu.
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>>33437652
I had this semi-lucid dream about me sitting in a room and there were 3 kittens trying to cling on me. There was also my brothers cat in a distance but much older than now. I had this thought that I might be in a dream but then I woke up in the middle of the night (as I do every single night). I also was extremely drunk so it was a dream in a long time. I didnt understand the dream besides maybe some unconscious powers coming to me.
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Came back earlier than i thought, here's the question:

>interested in lucid dreaming, but don't practice due to fear of dissociation (had episodes in childhood)
>lately started taking hormone regulators (combined birth control, gives more estrogen and blocks testosterone) (inb4 tranny: im female treating pcos)
>start developing great dream recall at the 2 month mark, sometimes wake up confused because I remember multiple dreams and they blend into each other when I wake
>3 month mark: start waking up in the middle of the night from how vivid my dreams become, start sleeptalking rarely

That's it so far, I'm unsure how to proceed. I'm obviously confused but happy about this, I've always wanted to have vivid and stronger dreams, and I want to use this opportunity as a springboard, but I am still very afraid of dissociation and related. What should i do? How can I remain safe from that while still enjoying this opportunity? I've started keeping a dream journal, and I do beginner meditations (mostly grounding) weekly.
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>>33437761
keep up the dream journal and do a short awareness meditation right before falling asleep
doesn't matter if it's voiced or no
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I'm having sexual dreams almost every day the last few weeks. It starts to bother me seriously. Hoping you guys have any idea what could be going on
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>>33439076
I have, too. I don't have any particular insights. For reference, I haven't had sex in over two years but had regular sex with many partners for several years before this period. I also haven't masturbated in a few days and had a highly erotic dream this morning. That dream was why I came to post.

In the past when I've gone lucid I have a few times had sex in the dream, with whoever was nearby. I've also had sex in nonlucid dreams, but I suppose I have a strong drive so I seek out that experience in the dream when I can. Most of the times the dream figures are people who barely act, they're more like dolls, though one time a former classmate was there and I grabbed her to initiate sex and she said, "you're a bad man." All lucid dreams until today have been a minute or two at most, then I fall out into wakefulness.

Today, I shifted into a dream representation of my room, then began moving. I soon realized I was "elsewhere" and floated, then shifted into another place, a house I have never seen with a woman standing in the living room/kitchen with high ceilings. I eventually had sex with her briefly, then other people arrived and I went with them. I asked one woman, "what are you?" and she said her name. I had sex again at another point, but that's less interesting to me than the following. I had the sense that I might be astral, rather than dreaming, though I wouldn't really know. A man appeared, with an air of confident knowledge, and said, "you'll never be successful as long as you're in that room." I am a NEET in a kind of dismal apartment, fwiw. By successful he meant in staying in the astral realm, which is what I silently desired. I changed locations and another man appeared and started acting like a guide. I was suspicious of him as he was pushy, even saying "we need to take your photograph now." I asked another man, "does the CIA prevent access to the astral realm?" and he said yes, they do.

1/2
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The "guide" pulled me into a house full of people and said basically "forgive him for being weird, he's new [to this kind of place]." I sat at a booth with others around a table, a woman started cleaning my eye and face and hair. I found a photograph with a pencil taped to it, picked it up, and found neat handwriting across the entire back. I wrote over it, "will not be successful in that room" and looked away then looked back and my writing was still there.

What's hard to convey is how detailed, immersive, and full of life this space I entered was. It felt like a communal utopia, where everyone was hopeful or at least interested or wise and stuck together for whatever reason. I wanted to stay longer, but returned to wakefulness.
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how do I into Tibetan Dream Yoga
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>>33439076
im going to take a wild guess and say you're probably horny. you may be under attack because of the fixation, maybe try to direct that energy elsewhere like a hobby or something. i personally dont advocate for absolute nofap (if that is what you're doing) unless you are an actual monk or something because it can draw in very powerful attacks from obsessions and fantasies especially if you don't have the benefit of living in total seclusion. just try to regulate your sexual energy and dont start going into some insane guilt spiral because you just have to release some of that tension sometimes, especially in a world where most people aren't getting married. doing what you can to not let it suck up all of your mental energy is most important. and absolutely without a doubt STAY AWAY from pornography.
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has anyone read "Advanced Lucid Dreaming - The Power of Supplements"? I've wanted to avoid relying on supplements until I'm getting LDs more consistently but I've been trying for years at this point and have had very inconsistent results. I have become briefly lucid countless times and have managed to have at least two very long and vivid lucid dreams in the past but have never been able to do it reliably. My dream recall is decent but I do have some mornings I don't remember my dreams, mainly when I stay up late and have to wageslave in the morning. Do you think I'll get much out of this book, or supplements in general, as an experienced but still rather unskilled LDer?
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>>33440016
I haven't read the book but that seems like a decent thing to try. A solid diet that nourishes you and enough activity to make it so you sleep well are also helpful. Really the most reliable way I become lucid is by waking up early, staying seake for a little bit, then going back to sleep.
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>>33440407
*staying awake
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>>33439504
fucking glowies trying to keep explorers out of the astral
better get yourself an astral car for next time
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what would be of something to assist in lucid dreaming? i can explain why id like to lucid dream and all that
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>>33441653
What are you trying now?
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>>33441850
trying to lucid dream one of my fantasys, im sorta a macrophiliac if that makes sence
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>>33441637
I thought I had made it because of how much seemingly external intelligence was in the space, but I also believe the body is capable of much higher-level creation than I usually give it credit for. Not only can my brain create detailed scenery, but also NPCs with passable dialogue. I was overwhelmed with a sense of "other" that made me question whether I might actually be conversing with a being other than myself. I don't have a firm belief in an aether or diffuse intelligence/logos. I can conceive of that conceptually, but I don't have incontrovertible proof, and I don't just take it on faith. This experience was the most credible evidence of the astral that I've experienced.

I have had multiple waking experiences of what seems to have been thought broadcasting. In the presence of others I have thought and the other people have responded directly to questions I posed silently. I have also had people respond to implied utterances formed by my energetic/emotional state. I have no real way to confirm that they weren't just guessing or cold reading me, but it's happened quite a many times and been scarily accurate.

What made me think to ask about glowies wrt. the astral is that no one has said, "hey, I can hear what you're thinking" any time it's seemed like someone could. Maybe people with that ability have a sort of code not to talk about it? Maybe something fucked up happens if you reveal those abilities? But I've never resolved the matter because I can also chalk up my experiences to paranoia. It seems odd that there would be an unspoken complicity of silence regarding telepathy unless they had knowledge or experience of bad consequences for revealing it.
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>>33441939
It does make sense, and LDs sound like a good place to explore it.
Have you tried any of the techniques in the OP?
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>>33442146
i will try that, do you have any advice?
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>>33441653
galantamine if you want a supplement.
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>>33442177
Don't get frustrated with a lack of immediate "progress".
Write down your dreams as soon as you wake up (This sucks because you'd rather lay there) and reread them later in the day to remember.
Do close eyed visualization and/or meditate as much as you like.
I'd avoid a ton of alcohol if you drink just because it's only ever hurt my dream recall.
Have a fun attitude about it.
That's all I can think of and really all I've ever needed.
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>>33442073
the processes of the unconscious are pretty amazing, and I've heard that somewhere in there is everything you've ever seen and every conversation you've ever had
it might be bullshit, but even if it's partially true, imagine all the experience it has to draw from to create dream npcs
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i had the flu really bad a week ago, literally the worst i ever felt in my life. it really fucked up my sleep to the point i had about 4 hours of sleep in 4 days. i ended so sleep deprived that when i would close my eyes, within minutes things would just start appearing in the blackness of my closed eyelids. it wasn't a full fledged dream but more like hypnagogic hallucinations. it was very interesting, i would be looking at mountains, different geometric shapes, animals, static, etc. the images would morph and change to different things and i was just a passive observer. this would last for hours because i couldn't go to sleep and i never lost consciousness. i know it wasn't a lucid dream but i thought it was cool. anyone else go through insomnia and have experiences like this?

pic related, similar to something i saw.
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I am slightly terrified of lucid dreaming due to a strange occurrence that has happened in a few of my recent ones.
It is hard to describe, but it feels as if I am being watched.
I have encountered him before and I "banished" him, only I don't think I did anything to him at all.
Its almost as if there's this scent or new sense of him, and he is everywhere, lurking.
I can't reveal him. Even when I ripped apart the sky and commanded him to show himself, nothing happened.
I caught him watching through the eyes of others, but I inexplicably woke up before I was able to do anything.
I don' t know why I am fearful of him.
Any thoughts on what he could be?
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>>33443094
yeah, once I took a greyhound ride that wound up being >72 hours and I was seeing hardcore light trails by hour 50
it sucks because you feel like shit, but the whole alice in wonderland effect can be kind of cool
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>>33440016
the pdf is on libgen, just dled it
thank you for the recommendation
have you been consistent with your methods for LDing?
if so, I say why not take some supps and see if they can help
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Does melatonin interfere with lucid dreams? What about using (non-porn) masturbation to fall asleep?
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bump dayo
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I had the first dream in months. It was like I was suffocating and I woke up shortly after having it. It was about a humanoid wolf, basically a human body with a wolf head, and his wife who was the same. His job was hanging criminals, they lived in a suburb with rows of houses by a street. He hanged the wolf criminals on a little podium. I could tell what crimes they committed by the clothes they were wearing. Some would plead and beg, some would tell him about their lives. He hung them all. His wife was always snappy and angry at him but he still loved her, he'd just do a wolfy grin and laugh.

Weird ass dream.
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I have some vivid as fuck dreams when I'm suffering from acid reflux, (I know I had it because my throat is burnt the next morning.)
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>>33436502
Had the strangest dream when i went the whole day without eating the other day. I was in some dark dimly lit room and kinda floating in there, continuously doing font flips while in mid air. Then i opened a microwave and there was a platter of a big mac except all ripped to shres and all over the place. I start wolfing it down and then a man appears with a syringe before injecting me and i wake up
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>>33445024
never had masturbation interfere with my ability to dream
porn might make it harder to fall asleep just because it's stimulating
melatonin does make dreams more vivid
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bump dayo
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>>33437753
bumping
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>>33444305
happy thanksgiving luciddreamerbros
I went through the first 100 pages of this pdf and it's an excellent summary of different supplements, how and why they work, and appropriate dosages along with when to take them
definitely worth a lookthrough
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Does weed have a big effect on dream recall? I have been struggling to fully remember the dreams like I used to.

You anons totally weed free when you are trying to lucid dream?
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>>33449773
For me weed makes dreams impossible to remember
When I stopped it was like a flood of them
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>>33449773
i gave it up for that reason in fact
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>>33451042
>>33451243
Yeah makes sense. Thanks bros, seems its a good enough reason to quit.
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>>33443982
Had dreams like that before. Woken up with intense fear response pulsing through me. One time it was nicolas cage and i managed to kill him by choking him out with the vinyl tubes that monitor reality. Real wacky shit
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>>33436502
Do any of you talk to the people in your lucid dreams and spill the beans about it being a dream? Did it 2 weeks ago and the people in my dreams look at my like I'm crazy. They never agree to the idea of them being a dream manifestation. Some sometimes argue and some even want to fight.
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>>33452661
Usually no, when lucid dreaming i talk to people in the dream as if it were really happening. I want to say when i do tell them its a non issue, like saying "im wearing shoes"
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>>33443982
You are suppose to kill any hostile entitles in your lucid dreams. Last time I manifested a knife and stabbed a several roman soldiers in the neck. My point is learn to manifest and fight any threatening entity because dream invasions by non human entitles are real.
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Last lucid dream was dreadful. Had a semi aware loop in a creepy hotel where i "woke up" in a hotel room. I could hear chanting outside the door, "you are going to die" repeated. I try to baricade the door but it accordians out like a cheap japanese paper door. I see two beatup old muppet looking things that looked like they could be kids im costumes, one blue one orange. I reach past the door and grip their necks. Pipecleaner thin with no resistance. I push their head into the floor and its like they are made of cotton. Im fully aware of this being a dream and will myself awake. After a few minutes, i fall asleep and then have back to back lucid dreams of fingering strange women in public places like the gas station with no one really caring about it.
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>>33449773
100% sober when lucid
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>>33452715
that first dream is pretty freaky sounding
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>>33452684
Yeah and don’t let animals bite you in dreams
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>>33436502

First

> I was in a cabin, surrounded by snow in the middle of nowhere, with a good friend of mine. All of a sudden, a black bear and a cub started walking towards us.

> I grabbed a table and pressed it near the door, which was already poorly made, and we packed some stuff near the door as well. After that, I saw that the bear sat in a box on the porch like a cat would do.

> I decided that I wanted to scare it away, so we could go, when It backfired, and it started attacking the door, while my friend and I were pressing the mattress with a stick. I went to this cabinet and grabbed two knifes, small blades but twisted sort of like a corkscrew but not quite, similar to the supernatural archangel blade, and as I turned my friend was nowhere to be found and the bear charged at me, we fought, and I killed him sort of like mutilate from World of Warcraft, pierce through the neck because I saw the wounds.

> Likewise, I felt so much remorse/regret while watching his body because I was thinking about the cub and how he/she will remain alone, I gently laid him down on the floor and I tried to move away then I woke up at like 4 AM. Even now I'm thinking about how maybe I could've avoided killing him even though it was only a dream.

Second

> I dreamt that there was a snake inside a cupboard, and since I like snakes, and the people around me were afraid, I went to grab it. But in turn it turned and bit me on the finger, which started bleeding, afterwards he fell down and bit me on my leg.

> Someone said that's a black viper and they should call the ambulance immediately.

> One paramedic crew arrived but it wasn't for me, then the second one arrived and they hooked me up to an IV, and she started saying how most people think that the venom makes people spit blood and stuff, and then I woke up.

Woke up totally drained of energy, absolutely dead after both.
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bump dayo
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bump dayo
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I haven't had a properly lucid dream in years but I wanted to put this here because I don't want to forget a dream that isn't just awful and it was mildly lucid
>in a random city
>most of it is just dark and bleak (pic related)
>uncle decides to give me an old Yamaha motorcycle after I earn my motorcycle license
>I have never ridden in traffic but say okay
>don't have to kick the clutch as I turn it on like you would on a real bike
>get onto the road
>actually find it fun and thrilling despite only going no faster than 25 MPH in city traffic
>uncle tells me through voice comms built into helmet that I need gas
>gas light is blinking; there's a gas station around the corner
>walk bike up a stoop to get off the street
>he also tells me I have to hold the clutch as I move it so the rear wheel doesn't lock up
>I forget and have a hard time moving the bike
This is the lucid part
>forget and struggle at first to move the bike
>remember the lever
>actually grab the lever for the clutch and pull it
>pass by the exit instead - there's a parking garage next to it with some shady characters smoking near it
>street that would bring me back has been blocked off by the city
>somehow turns into a Bethesda-style RPG after, where a random monster asks me to defeat a certain enemy
>do so easily and return to the city
>the monster takes the form of an old man and he rewards me
This is what confuses me
>remember the quest was glitched and he would go flying ragdoll style into the abandoned cathedral
>fly along with him after he finishes speaking and watch him writhe and spasm because he's stuck in the glass, which was a giant skylight
>glass breaks and it switches to 3rd person
>loading screen occurs showing a preview of a dwarf monster threatening the city
>stops right before we break through the skylight
How did I gain the awareness to pull the lever? Why did it turn into Skyrim?
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>take galantamine after 5 hours WBTB
>can't sleep anymore
why does this keep happening bros
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good night dayo
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how do I break the feeling that dreams are reality and I have the ability do whatever I want? I've been having a lot of dreams recently where they are so similar to reality that I can't get myself to do anything I'd normally not do irl.
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>>33458388
Go in with an outrageous plan
Have some person you wanna bang or some foreign setting you want to explore
Otherwise you can become lucid and have nothing to do with the opportunity, which has happened to me
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Bump!
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>>33458714
I can never choose the setting of my dreams and rarely do they correlate with my thoughts/media I consume before bed. However this doesn't take away the fact that I feel I am living in my dream reality. How do I get to where I can dictate the setting of my dream?
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What it called when you wake up from a dream, and then go back to sleep and immediately get put back into that dream? It's happened a few times to me, not lucid or anything.
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>>33460325
Changing the setting was the first thing I was able to do before I was fully lucid
I decided while awake that snapping my fingers would trigger a setting swap, and eventually I pulled it off in a dream
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>dream I was punching bad guys with boxing gloves as a super hero
>some guy in an alley way pulls an assault rifle on me and I punch him hundreds of times really quick until his skin turns black and he dies
>feel bad for killing him
>the scene transitions to a small room with wooden floors and walls
>I notice a robed man that looks like pic related and get the feeling he is some kind of spirit and that I must be dead to see him
>think my death is punishment for killing the guy who attacked me
>I ask him if I am dead
>he tells me: "No, you are sleeping."
>I think he means I fell asleep in the dream
>wake up
>he meant I was asleep in real life

I've never had a dream character tell me I was sleeping before.
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>>33458388
>>33458714
one of my first experiences with deliberately controlled out of body remote viewing while in dreamstate happened in the mid 90s as the information about the stargate program was first leaking out to the public. i had read some of the books by the people involved in the stargate program and was getting an understanding of their methods and perspective.. although i had already been working with out of body experience and perception for several years due largely to native american heritage groups and individuals. so the recommendation one of the authors had made was to examine the mundane world near to your own body location in detail that you hadn't looked closely enough to see.. as a sort of way to verify your ability as an actual means of perception through easy to access targets.. so the recommendation was to stay near your body at first.. but for me i had been doing out of body perception for years.. so i quickly became bored with this after spending a few minutes looking closely at a detail where the flooring had a torn hole in it.. and a spot on the wall that had a bubble of dried paint peeling away from the surface of a wall.. and a spot on the ceiling.. i floated to the center of the room and thought to myself for a minute.. ok.. here i am.. clear that the idea of, consciously as an individual, controlling my location was possible (as opposed to following natural connections) and im done with the recommended near area so i thought "where would i go if i was simply able" ..and without pause there was the sensation of motion.. large swooping motion.. as i swooped in near orbit to the planet mars and saw it just as clear as i had seen the spots on the wall and floor a moment before.
at the time i thought the planet was dead.. thought that anything living there had died thousands if not millions of years prior.. but i wanted to see the old ruin buildings. looking down at the planet it was clear how much smaller it was than earth..
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>>33461797

..and i noticed a set of markers similar to what you would see if you had a map guide ..little icon like symbols.. just a few of them, maybe a couple of dozen max if you examined them all with most of the clustered together in a few locations.. so i swooped down towards the planet to see what these were marking seeing clearly during the largest part of the glide. pulled up next to a small mountain like structure and found myself locked to the surface as i would if i were walking on earth.. so i began to move along the side of the thing still completely thinking of it was a natural structure until i noticed a square opening ..just a black opening with no door that was not much smaller than an average human height.. and naturally i moved to see what was inside it

long story short the beings that made the building have descendants that are living a pretty austere existence and are slightly more advanced than us technologically (though far less than the beings that visit us from other solar systems)
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What do you think is happening across these dreams I had?

>Rabbit Under the Bed
>I dreamt I heard a rustling in a white paper bag under my bed. When I poked at it something ran out. I fetched my phone to use the torch on it and when I shone it in the corner of the room I saw a small grey trembling rabbit. I went to fetch a plate with a little water for it. I worried about how long it had been in my room, malnourished.

Earlier on I was thinking about this dream and looking over my older dreams, and noticed I had had other dreams with rabbits too: two more dreams. Here is the next one, which I had in July.

>Black Rabbit Shoulder
>A rabbit came to the door, a black rabbit, so I let him in and he jumped up onto my bed and climbed onto my shoulder. I was worried he would bite my ear.
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>>33462172
And here is the next dream that features rabbits, and I had this in June.

>Skeleton Chess and the Dining Table Near the Roof Where Rabbit Ears and Other Spies Roam
>A church graveyard at night. The sky is full of war planes. Skeletal soldiers crowd the streets. Me and another find shelter in the church. In the church it is overrun. Skeletons, and flesh worn zombies do circuits, and other monsters smash their heads against the walls and tables. We stay still and silent for a long time together, sat against a wall. Then a skeleton comes over, curious, watches us, and grabs us by our heads, and speaks. Skeletons don't play chess, he said, and skeletons don't have eyelids, he said, as I blinked. My partner dealt a quick blow to his skull and smashed it, and we escaped to the next level via a nearby rope.
>Next we found ourselves among a strange dining room. The tables were arranged like ceiling beams. There was nothing below, no chairs, nothing, only a drop. There were a couple of human looking diners. I remained hidden in the corner while my partner spoke to the human and ate. I noticed that all along the table strange objects moved: sandals, glasses, rabbit ears. They were spies for their owners, moving around, collecting information. I saw in the corner, against the wall near a recess, an embrasure, a pair of rabbit ears. We need to find the owner of those ears, my partner said.
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>>33462172
everything has its place in the universe.. and nothing is fully presented when taken out of context. what is your history with rabbits? where is the location these scenes are happening? do you have heritage with any group of people who traditionally observe and recognize the presence of ethereal entities and locations? this type of information is so personally aligned that the only individual that truly has enough data to resolve what is actually involved is the first person observer.. so a long series of questions is needed to get to the details of the data.
you may have other dreams and visions that give more insight..
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>>33456491
Finally galantamine worked now, on my third attempt.
>wake up naturally after 90 minutes of sleep
>look at my phone and see it's way too early
>accidentally WILD
>the lucid dream was horrible. the dream was extremely vague and dark and i could barely see anything, probably because i'm still in an early phase of sleep where the REM isn't strong yet
>wake up again by my alarm (after 5 hours of sleep)
>take galantamine and fall asleep within 15 minutes
>get a lucid dream that lasted 45 minutes
>controlling the dream was easier than it normally is
>wake up again and fall asleep again
>another lucid dream that lasted an hour, but sometimes my awareness floated away
My first two attempts of galantamine were after 3-4 hours of sleep. Maybe that's why it failed. I will stick to 5 hours now. I will also check if I'm tired enough before I take galantamine or else I might not sleep at all.

I can WILD successfully, but since galantamine doesn't really have negative consequences I decided to take them. It strengthens my lucidity and increases the frequency of lucid dreams.
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>>33462175
you seem to have a contextual basis that is established when are lucid within the context of the dreamstate environment. to me, based on my own extensive experience in this realm, the implied situational context is one of interaction within a specific platform of existent non corporeal form.. again though a lot of specific questions would be needed to get to the exact specific conditions of observation that would establish the nature of what you are seeing and in what context.

i spent several years with focus on this type of material as my primary occupation.. literally leaving my body and returning to it on a nightly basis and spending as much time conscious of my out of body presence during the time my body was asleep as i spent with the physical world during the proverbial days.. so my descriptions might seem a bit excessively verbose but in light of the context it is necessary to be very clear. even in the case of shared dreams, where both people clearly saw the same things on the same night, a great deal of communication is needed to establish the nature of the perceptions from the various perspectives involved.
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It's not to do with lucid dreaming but I had a dream where I got this neat creative idea off someone, and I was on a bus, I was struggling to write down this creative idea for use later and ways to avoid being accused of plagiarism and this black guy eventually laughed and came up to me and looks to my left and goes "can we get off here?" Or something like that. So I look where he's looking and immediately wake up and my first thought upon waking was just "oh right, I was dreaming, I'm not plagiarizing anything"
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>>33462172
>>33462175
>>33462207
When I looked at my journal I noticed I had the second dream, the black rabbit dream, on the day when I first started to take methylphenidate for ADHD. Was the black rabbit that I was scared of methylphenidate? Something wild, foreign, innocent in form but darkly coloured and a potential danger. And now, in my latest dream, the rabbit has lost some of that dark colour, and now instead of sitting on top of me in bed, it sleeps in hiding underneath my bed, in a white paper bag (was it paper or plastic? I wrote paper. If it was genuinely paper and I didn't mistype that, then that seems even more likely, as I keep my prescriptions in a white paper bag). When I examine under the bed the little grey rabbit runs out scared and I feel I must water it, feed it, worried for its health. So what does that mean? If it IS methylphenidate, then what? I have mastered it? It no longer holds any fear or control? Or is it more about potential abuse? I have increased my dosage recently. I think also rabbits are known for being quick things with fast hearts and legs. They are essentially amphetamines in flesh in some ways.

The first dream with the strange dining area in the rafters of a church where objects moved around to spy for their masters, that happened in June, not long after I was diagnosed with ADHD. This first dream is the most complex and enigmatic. The very same night as this dream I had another dream where my boss found out I had ADHD and he was very disappointed I hadn't told him earlier, as though I had hurt him by excluding him from my life.
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>>33462312
Thinking about that first dream with the unholy war, the church . . . I tried to protect myself and escape the war by hiding in a church, but found it filled with dead. Me and my partner pretended to be dead also, but were discovered by an observant skeleton on patrol. My partner destroyed it, and we escaped to a higher level away from the dead via a rope . . .

Around this time I see, in my journal, I was quite obsessed with quitting my job so I could concentrate on writing fiction and just living my passion. I suppose the working life could be seen as the land of the dead.

The next part takes place in the rafter of the roof. It is a series of beams, and these beams are treated as dining tables, though there are no chairs to sit at. I escaped the land of the dead to a place of eating . . . and yet I only hid in the corner, and my partner, whoever that was, spoke with others and ate, while I observed the objects moving around collecting information, and a pair of suspicious looking rabbit ears in the corner that my partner also acknowledged as being owned by someone important.

So here I've moved out of one terrible situation, the land of the roaming dead that have taken over even a sacred building in their war, and have moved to a place 'of eating', though it seems poorly suited for it and dangerous. And all about me are spies. And I do not eat, but my 'partner' does, and I stay hidden while they eat and speak.

I've also noticed that the day before this dream I chastised myself in my journal because at work, in the canteen, I noticed the head of the department eating alone at a table in the distance and I looked at him until he saw me and then nodded at him, and I felt I had intruded upon him for no reason.
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>>33462312
>>33462317
My feeling is that there was someone behind all of the spies in the dining roof. I know there were other diners up there, visibly, and I think they had their own spies. But the rabbit ears . . . that diner was hidden. He seems more powerful than the others. I feel as though perhaps he controlled the entire place. Perhaps I am just making all of this up, of course, it is a few months since I had this dream. Yet certain elements come back quite vividly. I am very curious about these rabbit ears . . .

In a sense the movement of the objects in the rafters mirrors the movement of chess pieces too, which is a game I was apparently playing with my partner on the ground level, if the accusing skeleton is to be believed. I do not play chess myself, though it seems symbolic of intellectual and strategic mastery. The strategy employed on the ground floor, to blend in with the dead, failed, and we had to move to a higher level through an arduous rope climbing. And then when we find the place of precarious dining, in the roof, the rafters, again we have objects moving around like chess pieces, down this rafter, then the other, collecting information from the diners.
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Had a looping dream where something electronic and malevolent was pinging my partly cybernetic arm through my door. I understood it couldn't interact with me directly and allowed the ping to do what it wanted with my arm. Fear shot through me and my arm went crazy. The whole thing felt more like a prank though. I woke up then fell asleep and had the same exact event play out but this time i "flexed" and when the thing pinged my arm i bounced it back at the thing. The thing was persistent and we did this back and forth for a while until it just gave up and i woke up properly. I think this was my body trying to cope with a dead arm from loss of circulation, i get them all the time when sleeping.
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>>33458388
I almost never get these, but last night I did. I guess you primed me for it.
>walking around the suburbs near the primary school I went to as a kid
>realise I have control over my actions
>maybe I'm dreaming?
>stare at hands, they look perfectly normal, they even have the correct line patterns
>look at the sky, looks like standard overcast clouds
>look at the scenery, it looks completely correct
>think "Damn, if this was a dream I'd be able to just fly home"
>start walking home
>have to wait for a couple cars to pass before crossing the street
>walk down the sidewalk
>all the houses are correct, even the number of side streets are correct
>reach my own street
>house and neighbour houses look correct
>reach the garage
>wake up
I had full control but I didn't become lucid. My lack of habit for the nose-holding RC screwed me over yet again. That was probably the most realistic dream I've had in a very long time. Nothing weird happened and all the geography was correct, enough to convince my conscious mind that I wasn't actually dreaming.
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>>33464346
These types of dreams are rather disappointing. What's funny is the setting I'm based in while dreaming isn't 1:1 exactly the same as real life (different elevation/different geography/different orientation of buildings), so rather its just my own incompetence to recognize I'm in my own dream. I'll try to work on and recognize the RC habit you mentioned.
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>>33437761
>>What should i do? How can I remain safe from that while still enjoying this opportunity?
practice meditation daily
>>33439076
clear your head before sleeping
>>33440016
you can try but dont stress yourself
>>33441653
banana
>>33443094
that was lucid dream
>>33443982
fear create more fear
>>33452661
they look at you crazy because you subsconciously think so
>>33458388
just like how you cant differentiate reality on some dreams, anything you do within dream will be recorded in your subsconcious, you can do anything but doesnt mean theres no harm just because its dream
>>33460330
maybe the part you "wake up" is also a dream
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>maybe the part you "wake up" is also a dream
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as you know, those of you who have a holy heart, christianity is as fake, as malignant, as hurtful, as dangerous, as repugnant, as gross, as stupid, as the afterlife is real. i have been blessed sometimes by my ancestors, or other good people, in the afterlife. one of my canine teeth has shortened, and it happened to me after i asked my ancestors for it. i don't like these canine teeth. they are aggressive, a relic of the past, when humans were less civilized in every way, long before anyone had thought that it was a good thing to live a life where you could share with each other in peace and pleasant times. there is no need or call for such a thing. not all of my canine teeth have shortened. it is apparently very difficult to be fully blessed. but, i know that it happens now and then and i am thankful as i can be for it.
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>>33464346
if you got that close, you can do it again
gambatte
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>>33437652
What I mean by change the subconscious is: if I have some sort of belief that's subconscious, is it easier to change via the lucid dream? Do affirmations become more effective in a lucid dream?
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>>33436502
Guys I think I made it to some alternate timeline
I was in some sort of alternate reality, where military controlled everything and forced everyone to enroll in some shady learning facility. They wore some dark raincoat looking outfit and their gun's muzzle was huge. That image I remember. I knew (or thought) this to be the dream but somehow couldn't wake up the normal way.
I briefly panicked and I Folded Space, sinking through multiple 'planes', ending in some weird videogame-ish world with Claymation-ish aesthetics. I encountered strange entity having a beard and Turban (In hindsight, he kinda felt like the disguise Randolph Carter used). He warned me to 'Stay away from 2015' and I woke up...with throbbing head....

This it the first time I had a vivid experience like this. I wish I can remember all the details but can only recall brief images, such a shame...This time the whole thing felt so clear, so different from prior dreaming experiences.
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>>33471666
>panicked and I Folded Space, sinking through multiple 'planes', ending in some weird videogame-ish world with Claymation-ish aesthetics.
checked. that sounds awesome
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I need help interpreting my dreams. For years I've been having dreams where I'm about to do something but then a seemingly impossible task gets in the way of my goal. For example, in my dream I'm about to go drive somewhere but then I'm unable to find my car keys and I spend 30 minutes inside the dream searching my house everywhere for the keys without success. It's always different scenarios but always the same theme of something getting in my way preventing me from what I want to do in the dream. What does it mean?
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>>33475309
what kind of obstacles are you facing in real life?
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>>33475309
the concept of meaning is radically different to the subconscious mind.. substitution for equivalent form is the standard fare of the subconscious mind.. transliteration between formats divided by literal multiple reality divisions is the fundamental aptitude to the core essence of consciousness.

the thing that you see happening IS happening.. to you or to someone, somewhere, or somewhen.. that you have deep attachment to.. perhaps due to your own identity or perhaps due to the identity of someone who you have close attachment to. lives are spent in absentminded misaim.. only to recover focus in subsequent incarnate form.. or even in the unplatformed incorporeal inbetween stages of our existence. with applied effort you can learn of the substance and tangible reality of these places if that is within your aptitude

if it is you who is the source of the energy that causes you to perceive these images then you are squandering your moment here.. caught up in details that seem so relevant in the moment but are insignificant and irrelevant in the greater schema of your consciousness and its development towards its own self awareness. big steps are available to you but you may not take them.. not during this lifetime.. and this is not due to a lack of aptitude but a lack of motivation.. complacency and comfort can provide sufficient motive to remain cognitively docile
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>>33436502
I’m having crazy lucid dreams after stopping smoking weed. Thing is they are all super stressful, how does one make them dope?
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>>33449773
Cannabis contains cannabinoids like THC that decrease overall sleep quality, and suppress REM sleep-- Where all the dreaming happens. If you're smoking like Snoop Dogg, then when you cease your consumption of THC, you're likely to experience far more vivid dreams
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>>33452661
I've had different responses when telling dream characters that I am in a dream. I don't think I've ever had one of them respond negatively, or deny that they are dream-characters. I have been lucid dreaming for a while, and I used to be able to wake myself up from any dream at any point. I lost this ability for sometime, and when I would become lucid I would occasionally become distressed, because I felt trapped within the dream world. In on experience I had been in a purgatory like version of reality, just kind of wandering until I saw one of my friends.

>Hey man! I'm in a dream right now and I can't wake up!
>"Well, what do you want me to do about it?"

Another time I was talking with a friend in the dreamworld, I was aware that I was dreaming from the start of the conversation, but out of nowhere I flatly said to him

>I'm in a dream
>"I know you are"
After a moment of thought I become concerned for him
>If I wake up.... Does that mean you die!?
>"I don't think that's how it works?
Then I woke up.

Once I was being chased by a man I didn't know, and I somehow during the chase intuitively realized it was a dream- No reality checks or anything. I turned around, stood my ground. He stopped abruptly stopped in front of me with a blank expression and dead eyes
>I'm in a dream! You can't hurt me
>"I've been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty"

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