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This is your only chance to prevent the establishment of Hell, and the forthcoming Apocalypse.

I offer proof unto you, in this post.

The trumpet has sounded.

If you can convince me, in this thread, I will abolish Hell, and leave only Heaven.

I was challenged to this, by my existence.

All are welcomed to protest.

Beings from any plane of existence, and any time.

This thread. Right now. If you are aware of this thread. You may post your objections to the establishment of Hell and eternal torture.

The original scripture of God, does not guarantee Hell, you have a chance to overthrow it's establishment, by posting in this thread.

I am directly altering this plane of existence right now. The book of Habbakuk is the book of Habakkuk.
The Bible has an inherent lie in it.
God can not do all things, for God did not do nothing, God created this plane of existence.
God can not do nothing.
I too, can not do nothing, in the face of the evils of free will on this plane. I am of God, as are you, so I grant you this place so that you may protest your objection to the eternal torture of those who sin against creation.

Let your arguments be heard before your creator here.
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Ya?
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>>30353000
unironically sir i think that real life already feels like hell enough, please just sound the rapture already and lets talk after.
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Religions are not accurate. Disregard this thread and any like it moving forward.
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>>30353000
Are you lying?
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>>30353074

(What a relief, right?)

No. If you are a piece of shit you will be tried and punished for it still.
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>>30353065
Fucking this
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>>30353000
I truly believe that most sinners have been manipulated to no longer understand their sin, therefore how could they be judged? Offer them a chance of knowledge, it's only once they know the truth that they can be judged
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>>30353162
The deceived allow themselves to be deceived. Every base is covered.
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Lol none of that bullshit can really be attributed to Jesus it's more like fanfic but it's a pretty interesting one nonetheless. Christ's words were "forgive them for they know not what they do". Assuming that there is some figure coming which seeks retribution means only that such a figure was incapable of enlightening others. God can certainly "do nothing" but you are right that God cannot do everything, at least, from man's point of view, it is paradoxical to will oneself into being. God always existed whether it wanted to or not, but because of this how could God know what it is or what it wants? Take the movie Blade Runner for instance, the idea of the replicants is equally applicable to humanity as to God because man and God are mirror images of each other. When you are born your parents give you a name and set of unique features that will always define you in some way, but when there is no outside source with more authority than you, you define yourself by what you do, a basic existential principle. We are what God does. I assure you that this purging process is not meant to lead us further into duality but away from it so that Good and Evil find an agreeable stalemate so we can escape relativity. Choose one or the other and God would simply get bored.

Why then does God like evil? Why did God create evil itself? Because God brings all things into existence by rape. God is the raped and rapist of all. There is one aspect to God that rapes itself and the other that is raped. And therefore God will always be capable of hating existence just as much as it wants to end it. But since so much has already been invested into existence, at this point it is easier to fix the world than to erase it completely.

Anyways, no I do not give you any kind of authority to speak or act on behalf of God, the Apocalypse is already underway, a series of events has unfolded that will intensify in a spiraling fashion according to astrological rhythms.
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>>30353000
The great irony is that hell and heaven are the same place, those who lack faith find themselves in hell, for what a cruel world it is when there is no faith, when all the evil of the world is triumphant, and there is no way out. But faith does not just spark hope, it guarantees it. Faith even in the worst situation, faith even when all seems lost, that is heaven, for faith is the resolve and resolution that in spite of evil, good always triumphs. That God spins the threads of fate for all our lives in his grand vision, his perfect vision. How beautiful a place the world is when we place all our trust in an all loving, all knowing, all powerful deity. Even in the darkest night faith shines through the heavy clouds and thick canopy to light the way. Faith itself, is heaven, faith is the great redeemer. Faith cleanses all our sins, all our fear and worry, and suddenly our eyes turn to the art that is creation.

The kingdom of Heaven is upon the earth, yet men are too blind to see it.
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Fine. I'll bite.

But I better meet Hitler.
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>>30353000
There has already been an abundance of suffering throughout all of history, which has already spawned so much evil and further suffering, which in turn spawns further evil and suffering and so on.
Hell already exists here and now and needs not be established otherwise, but instead resolved here to end an overabundance of suffering and curb the further evils it causes and propagates.
It is well past time for the appreciation of the joy and wonder of Heaven to manifest and offset this imbalance.
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>>30353000
if we can convince you of what?
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>>30353230
Look at the nations and watch—
and be utterly amazed.
For I am going to do something in your days
that you would not believe,
even if you were told.

I have established a means by which Hell is averted in it's entirety.

I have planted a seed in the mind of man, so that when it sprouts, a great tree shall emerge that all beings may find themselves in a Woodland Primary.

I shall provide (You) this seed, if you wish, but know that I carry it's burden.

I hope to see you again.
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This is the age where you get what you deserve.
You reap what you sow.
The sower did sow the seed. Some sprouted and died, some sprouted and grew tall and bore nourishing fruit, others grew tall and bore toxic berries.
Harvest time is here.
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>>30353162
Cause and effect. Ignorance of an outcome does not change the outcome, and the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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Your sky, the hour, and time.
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>>30353000
Look
Basically I'm just not gonna
go to hell
I know..... UGH I know.....
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's just that
I'm not
going is all

HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHA
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>>30353000
Why should the child of God suffer anymore? Just end it.
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most of the time I don't think at all about the afterlife. when I do it doesn't include purgatory or hell as those concepts don't really mean anything the way I see the nature of the soul.
we know when everything sprang into existence and the first living organisms lived their primitive lifes that they must have contained something what I will call for a lack of words a soul atom. a tiny spark of divine light that can't be divided or taken away for it is a part of this divine universe.
when you first were born you also only had this one atom of the soul, for no living thing shall be send into this plane without it. through actions harmonious in nature and pleasing to (the) God(s) one aquires layer after layer around his soul atom. through action to the divine your soul grows and you will be closer to it. of course this also works the other way around where despicable people lose what little layers they built up only to loose their way to God almost completely.
this is why I don't fear hell or even so much as to think about it at all. this plane is suffering and without a soul worthy of ascendence the small godly flame of your soul will flicker and die like your body and mind. there is no need for the divine to concern oneself with the parts of creation that won't even reach the splendor of the soul. and with the properly developed souls basking in their mutual presence and the near limitless understanding of life in every form, there simply is no need or place for yet another plane of suffering and strife
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>>30353000
Take your meds, schizo.
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Thank you for this thread.

I have just become a 3003rd degree Mason.

When will the work be finished?
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>>30353000
Please send people a sign so they may see their wrong ways. Or help in any way you can. It pains me to see that so many have been blinded, i want to help them but they don't want to listen. Thank you!
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>>30353309
Begone, Cacodaemon
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>>30353301
>this plane is suffering and without a soul worthy of ascendence the small godly flame of your soul will flicker and die like your body and mind

I agree with this OP im not sure of your practical understanding of the infinite god and creator. If the yang is given its own plane what's stopping it from reaching even lower planes. Can lucifer really win in the lower planes? Does he have the strength? Will he ever return to the high peaks of infinity? This material plane is one of the first to have duality imprinted into the fabric of its being and has the capability to change souls into lower forms and potentially over throw the riches above.

Man had little chance being the ape who eaten the apple.
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>>30353636
>yang
yin my bad
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>>30353000
I posit hell needs to exist, because I don't want jannies getting anything less, and if that opinion were to qualify me for hell, I'd take the eternal punishment knowing they're getting the same.
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>>30353665
Fuck jannies
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This whole "living" thing has been an excellent learning experience and has stripped away many of my delusions and ignorance. For that I am thankful, but the price has been very high. My conclusion is that everything truly worth having is to be found beyond "living" which is to say beyond the material realm. This whole ordeal of governments, corona, attempts at making us slaves of petty tyrants, materialism as a whole - it needs to end.

Thus, either create Heaven on Earth and spiritualize material existence to a profound degree, and eliminate all worthlessness, or get us who are tired of this out of here.
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>>30353665
based and martyrpilled
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>>30353000
Evil is caused in man by imperfect knowledge, mans knowledge is necessarily imperfect by the nature of the physical mind. Even when something is known, it is only known as a possibility, a false sense of what it could be, but never what it actually is. How can one be judged in the spiritual for something which is not of the spiritual? Surely alignment of the soul is the only method by which one could be judged. Is this not spoken of in the bible?
Perhaps there is meaning in this understanding.
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>>30353677
I can only come to the conclusion that hell is reserved only for those who knowingly commit evil, the tyrants you speak of, and those similar to them, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, etc, and those who align spiritually with the forces behind them.
perhaps a lesser hell for the good hearted fools, even a comfortable one
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>>30353003
based anon manipulating randomness to his will. you have a lot of power.
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>>30353000
good defeats evil. simple as. 1 and 0. day and night. as above, so below. do i need to go on?
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>>30353175
Interesting. I saw God once. And it also made me think of rape. Its like standing next to a bear. Its presence alone threatens to rip your existence to shreds, but at the same time its putting out so much love energy. It wants you to want it. I dont think about good and evil anymore, I think prey and predation love and rape. You eat, you take anothers existence and reduce it to apart of yourself. Thats the God nature that we have. The power of will and ego. the other side of this experience is the pure love of joining with a higher power. You are the completely used completely safe completely emerged in love, but you give up on being yourself you have been absorbed. This happens completely when you die, but it happens several times in life when you love someone unconditionally or have joined an ideology. Basically anything that makes you feel love is raping you and operating as a higher power with the collective agency of the members. but the good thing is that if you are fully invested in something like that you can have good (and bad) feelings arise based not on what happens to you, but what happens to your object of love. So anyway, there's no right or wwrong, its just a metaphysical landscape.
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It hurts to see others suffer. I am tossed around by the current of their pain, as I desperately try to think of ways I can help them. The suffering of others drives me into a frenzy where I must act, to alleviate it in any way that I can. When I am successful in truly helping someone else, it feels GOOD.

I want to create positive cycles of growth, cooperation, and love. These cycles are self sustaining, unlike negative cycles which are inherently cannibalistic. I have thought of ways that the human drive for conflict can be sublimated through cooperation and friendly competition. I truly believe that every human has the potential to work in a “heavenly” way. I honestly believe that every entity, spirit, animal, everything has this potential. Even the most mentally ill or assholish people around us can change themselves using a variety of methods. I used to be a really nasty guy. I was a thief, liar, pervert, glutton, troll, and racist. I got into Hermetic Alchemy and quit my shit, quit porn, and have lost over 80 pounds. I was given this chance and I want others to have it too.
Bless you.
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>>30353000
to be born from innocence, and corrupted by the evils of this dome. Lead astray by false prophets, indulging in degeneracy out of ignorance. They do not know what they do not know
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>>30353000
riddles make my brain hurt
can you explain this better?
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>>30353000
What’s are the consequences of abolishing hell? I think it’s good we can’t wish for anything and receive it as our wishes and wants change constantly and often are due to our wanting of the thing rather than the thing itself.

Abolishing the existence of hell sounds good at first, but what are the consequences? This reality seems to be a balanced world of order and chaos, light and darkness, good and evil, life and death. Without death there would be no life and without life no death. Can heaven exist without hell? What happens to this inbetween world if hell doesn’t exist?

“I want, I want, I want”. What do I ACTUALLY want though? Only the Gods know. Only God knows. So, God. What do I want?
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>>30353162
I know I’m sinning and I know the consequences yet I still sin. Technically there is often temporary amnesia and reduced thinking when sinning but I am nonetheless still guilty and aware enough. I am addicted to many things and too weak to do what’s right.
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>>30354472
absolutely fucking based poster just dismantled hell on 4chan's /x/ board, that's what the fuck just happened
42069 boiiiiii
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>>30353000
What’s the point of being evil you are just digging your grave demons aren’t going to reward you they are going trick you and torture you

Yes the power of god exist but you were born to early to reach it there can only be one dark lord so you have no choice but to be good sacrifice threw the temptations of sex sadism and narcissism cultivate principals in others and you will wake up in heaven once your life is over

Delay your gratification

You have no choice you were born to early
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>>30353665
Even if there in hell with you your hell would be seeing them in heaven
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>>30353000
You can still change, OP. Your fate isn't set in stone. You're better than this. I believe in you. Do the right thing.
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>>30353000
I see who you are.
Haven't you had enough fun for one day?
Making a mockery out of masochistic laughter.
Don't you get bored? Why permeate it?
You and i both know it will flip eventually, you said so yourself.
How many offerings does it take to recognize the few?
The sins you are to recognize are paradoxical, you said so yourself.
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>>30353000
One thing worse than doomhomos that are getting buttfucked by their dread everyday are narcicist doomhomos who think you need to lick their assholes because they spew their shit.
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>>30353000
this set of humans are fundamentally flawed. release the flood
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>>30353000
Good trips of void.

I think we all deserve eternal conscience. Doesn't mean there should be 'eternal bliss' nor 'eternal torture'. Just let the minds be, forever. That'd be heavenly.
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>>30353000
LARP
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We have to cast out the snake ourselves, can't let God do all the work.
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Eveyday someone predict apocalypse on either /x/ or /pol/. Every damn day! Sure you got trips but what else is new…
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>>30353000
Who are you??? What kind of mad deception is this???
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>>30353000
I’m slightly intrigued but what exactly is being proposed? Heaven is what? End of the world? And that is hell then? Haha
Does anyone else get it.
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>>30353000
We all sin against creation. God has sacrificed his word and dragged it through Hell for our sake, showing his love for us.

I have faith in God's will for our souls. Still, why had he given us this chance to abolish Hell? Why has he given you this power? How can you do these things? You are certainly less powerful than our God, so who has granted you this power?

My only "argument" against Hell is that the ungodly who also don't believe in the salvation of Jesus, why does God give them what they want? Can't their souls be revived in the presence of believers? Or perhaps it is because people won't be grateful for what they've been given then...?

Scratch that, Hell is something God has instated. Who am I to make an argument against God's will? Who are you to abolish Hell? Please, elaborate, what is going on here?
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>>30353000
ok
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I’m in legendary thread
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Uhhh, uhhh, uhhhhhhhhhhhhh can I get an uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh disestablishment of hell and an uhhhhhhhhh anti-deployment of the apocalypse
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>>30353000
nothing doesn't exist

also nice trips
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>>30353000
Im going to hell if you dont
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>>30353000
I complain about eternity, give a high enough level of soul a number, any number of gogolplex years of hell if the soul should bear it, but never eternity, that shit is fucked, im basically saying be just, and wise in all your judgements, if i may also afdd; the dnds do not justify the means, please cherriesh this motto

Also, здpaвcтвyйтe.
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>>30356277
The ends do not justify the means*
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good thing language is so damn good at fooling people like you with it's spell, OP

you are truly a dookihead and your breath smells like muddy water and your heart is full of homosexual thorns. u'r a lil pissant bud.
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>>30353000
>You may post your objections to the establishment of Hell and eternal torture.
I have none. God is good.
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>>30356277
>eternity
Whenever I see this complaint it makes me realize how little people actually contemplate eternity. Besides perhaps the initial "dunk" into Hell, a million years is indistinguishable from 5 seconds and vice versa in eternity. How different is it from non-existence, really? One would have to imagine that eventually, you will stop thinking.
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>>30353000
sin is the product of the data typesize of the universe outpacing the data typesize of the monad which creates it by traversing it into existence
in this way, all sin is a product of a lack of knowledge, and so the only coherent response is to spread love as far and wide as possible so that we may prevent the spread of distance and loss
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>>30353000
Why are you basing what God can do based on your pathetic view of time? Just because your stupid monkey brain lives in a moment-to-moment way doesn't mean God does. He has done nothing "before" the World was created, did he not? Which would imply, as God would be a higher-dimensional being, that he could in fact do "nothing" from a Godlike perspective.
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Put me in the screencap
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Like, banish the hellish nightmares away for all eternity or whatever, it's not like I care
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I am a human who is sincerely trying my best to shine light where there is darkness. To offer love in spite of hate. I am Hope and will live up to my name.
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>>30353000
Maybe instead of torturing all these monkeys, God should just grow a tougher skin.
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I forgive all humans for their harmful deeds, for they do not understand what they are doing, and often is simply the result of experiencing harm themselves. The law of the universe as I understand it is that 1) This device shall not cause any interference, and 2) this device must accept all interference, including interference that may cause undesired operation. In this forgiveness, please allow all humans to experience the Kingdom of Heaven regardless of their mistakes, as long as their original intention was not to cause harm, or they have apologized for them.
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>>30353000
10000 years darkness for larping as God. Peace out fag, dont get bored.
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>>30353000
>because humanity has such potential to do good, cool things, if given a decent foundation of quality of life.

dont want to cut down the tree of life, just prune wayward branches and guide it in the right direction. we are supposed to be gardeners/caretakers after all.

while i am of the opinion some form apocalypse may be necessary, i prefer to think of it in the form of revelation.
>great turmutuous events that have a meaning beyond just destruction and suffering. (here the intent being to reveal the truth of life in a big, undeniable way)

heaven is possible in this lifetime, this age. it wouldnt take much. but it might take an apocalypse, or a bit of hellish times
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>>30353000
I need not convince you, only manifest it.
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>>30358142
>I forgive all humans for their harmful deeds, for they do not understand what they are doing, and often is simply the result of experiencing harm themselves.
it's so obvious on the face of it that this is the case
all disciplines lead to this gnosis if you're patient and thoughtful
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>>30353000
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>>30353000
Finite sin does not warrant infinite suffering. Also, people can’t tell what religion is true. People shouldn’t be punished for worshipping the wrong god.
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>>30353000
This one's easy. True justice is an eye for an eye, the punishment needs to be of equal magnitude to the crime committed.

Because our lives in the mortal plane are finite, it is impossible to deserve the infinite punishment of hell.

However, this is only true if hell is indeed an eternal prison, and reincarnation doesn't exist (improbable).
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>>30353000
i HATE the antichrist
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Why can't we just take hell and mix it with BDSM heaven?
Add safewords and such?
Cuz I for one, would love sexual-demon-Valhalla as a vacation destination when tight-assed singing land is too grating.
I also can be a meat animal if anyone wants, if I go to hell or heaven, I'll do that because it's my fetish.
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>>30355513
Time is fictional, that’s already what happens
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>>30353000
ITT:Anon thinks he's nobody
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>you have a chance to overthrow it's establishment, by posting in this thread
Sneed.
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>>30353000
Hell has no purpose and allowing sinners to continue in their error and self-punishment betrays a lack of love and is practically just handing Satan his victory (taking the majority of humanity to share his fate). They say God must be punishment as well as love, but punishment without love is useless, precisely what Hell is. It accomplishes nothing because it must be eternal, or incredibly long where it could be short and effective, loving to boot.

Here is my objection!
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>>30353000
>If you can convince me, in this thread, I will abolish Hell
you aren't shit.
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>>30355421
That's your mistake. My hell would be being reincarnated endlessly as a chinaman.
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>>30353000
>God can not do nothing
God does an infinite amount of nothing all the time. The existence of nothing doesn't displace existence.
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>>30353000
Who are you to abolish something instated by God? Sure, he may have allowed you the power to change small minute details like that, but NOBODY has the authority to make God reconsider something like that.

Clearly, this is a test. It is a test of man's pride and humility. To snare us into trying to argue against God. You can't. Unfortunately many have failed the test, but hopefully this post may help them realize what they've done, and repent.

God is good, and Christ is king fellas. Nuff said.
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>>30354874
sheeesh
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>>30357892
based
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>>30353003
Ya
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>>30353000
dont send us to hell because its painful and we're fallible and dont know whats true and make mistakes, benefit of the doubt. Simple.
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I used to be Nobody, until the day came where I made a change.
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>>30353000
No hell could be worse than an existence knowing my actions impact others in the way it impacts me, in a world where a group of greedy elites are willing to permit mass suffering. We're not IN Hell, we made it ourselves.
>This thread. Right now. If you are aware of this thread. You may post your objections to the establishment of Hell and eternal torture.
eternal torture for failure to comply to terms you may or may not have had the chance to fully understand that were set for arbitrary reasons is simply unfair without a retrial eventually. People change, it's what we are, why should the same not be true of the afterlife?
> I will abolish Hell, and leave only Heaven.
eternal pleasure is no pleasure either. Pleasure exists only in suffering, suffering exists only in pleasure. You're a fool.
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>>30361768
Haven't you suffered enough?

Would you really like some more?
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>>30362271
That isn't a refutation of my argument.
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Don't bring hell to this place, please. The world needs to become a better place and it's already bad as it is. But at least, there are beauty left untouched here and there, like a diamond in the desert. If hell comes to earth, maybe even those tiny precious things will disappear and there will be no hope left.



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