I have a limited understanding of what Satanism actually is but I assume most Christians would tell you it's fools worshipping the Devil and condemning their souls to Hell. But why would anyone willingly do that, unless their god has promised them some form of eternal paradise for aiding their cause (which Christians can't refute as nonsense, because they literally believe the same thing). The only thing I can draw parallel to is how people sometimes root for the bad guy in fiction, because they tend to be cooler or have a relatable reason for becoming a villain. But this is real life and I can't imagine people being so reckless with their eternal soul by hailing Satan, unless they know something we don't. Or is it as simple as they're all just a bunch of goth edge lords?
>>28138528Because Satan is God and God is Satan.
>>28138528i think its just edge lords (even the deep stae pedos top 1% but on a higher level) or they just simply dont know its the devil and they basically got tricked by the devil. as in they dont even know or think god is real and they think the devil is just some high level entity. this is what i think if the Abrahamic religions are right in general cuz idk myself
>>28138528>Why does Satanism exist?Because it solves the problem of evil.
>>28138591God doesn't exist. If he did we'd be living in the best possible world. Instead we are living in this clown world full of suffering and injustice. There is a "God" of this domain and he is Satan.
satanists exist as rebellion to what they see as an oppressive christian culture, especially the US' misinterpretation of Christianity If you want to trigger christians, what better way than to say you worship satan
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>>28138528>why would anyone willingly do thatBecause the true religion is hard to find, people go to hell daily on christcuckery, because that one is fake, and these people trust you won't find the true one and take the win.You have to be DUMB to see they don't fear YAHWEH and STILL worship him.
>>28138620Want proof? Go to joy of satan, read about how they practice their stuff.Yes it's all meditation and chakras.Now read a bible, read how it is practiced.You'd assume to see chakras and shiet in there, but it isn't, it's a dumb belief.It is a con, the true religion is some form of druidry, I found it by accident doing meditation.
We had this thread countless of times. The answer is that Satanism is either:>atheistic and uses the Satanist image to piss off Christians>rebranded paganism, usually uses the image the same way as the former group with the rare occasion of henotheistic worship of Satan as an actual god>a weird interpretation of Gnosticism
>>28138528satan will reward those who pay tribute to him
>>28138665see also my non-fail trips >>28135666
>>28138602Things are the way they are because of indulging with satan(porn, hate, addictions ). God is a mysterious force that gave us the breath of life. It very much is possible for god to repay you in the afterlife after suffering so much on earth. Not a christian btw.
>>28138528Dead souls incarnate here as well as living souls. They are like a compass without a needle. They are herd thinkers. How can you judge someone that does not think as an individual? Satan is dealing with them.
>>28138564false.God is order. Satan is chaos. Society sucks because we indulge in chaos
>>28138833I bet you'd also let him eat your ass
>>28138528Because satan is a cool guy. He ocasionally gives me tips on how to best live my life and how to get girls.
>>28138528There's a few options usually:>Edgy Levayan types who are just calling themselves "Satanists" to piss off Ma and Pa>Esotericists (esp. Saturnine Disciples / Worshippers of Yaldabaoth) who employ Satanic imagery to keep the mundane from peering too closely into their magickal workings >EL-ite Luciferian types seeking apotheosis who rightly perceive Lucifer as a metaphor for that aspect of the universal psyche which will not bend even to righteous authoritarianism and thus is a fitting emblem for their own pursuits towards the HarvestOnce you study the Bible long enough to realize its syncretic character / social control mechanisms - you begin to question who is truly the protagonist of the story? The Messiah who wants to keep humanity chained to the God that tortures their souls forever if they do not submit or the other guy
>>28138576>i think its just edge lordsThis is correct.Why the fuck would anyone worship Satan? In the Bible, he is barely even mentioned (he's retconned into the story by the NT) and when he is, he's only depicted as weaker than Yahweh.And neo-Christianity has created a vast and unbiblical story about Satan which depicts him, once again, as a weakling.He is a plot device and a slur to use against people you don't like.
>>28138528Because a majority of "satan" worshipers worship the westernized version of the devil. They seem themselves as being valiant anti heroes instead of just being cringe. I personally dont care what others choose to worship, but i wish american satanists actually did some research instead of just saying "UH UH MUH BAPHOMET"
>>28138964>YHWH = Jehova = Baal = Saturn = El Shaddai = Satan>Hermes Trismegistus = Lucifer>The Earth is a Mother Goddess called Gaea Congrats, here's your 33rd degree and a reach around
>>28138982Baal was a titleSatan was a titleId say its a stretch to even say lucifer = saturn seeing as the two functioned so differently.
>>28139009>I'd say it's a stretch to say Lucifer = SaturnnThat's why I equated Lucifer with Hermes and not with YHWH - as it's distinct planetary intelligences. Baal & Satan are titles for the same being, but they're also misused enough on this board that it's worth qualifying.
>>28139028Ok, thats a fair point. Didnt see the second ">"
>>28138528Newsflash dipshit.. god and satan don't exist and believing in them is just a waste of time
>>28139055what do you believe?
>>28138610kek is this a basedjak edit
>>28138982>everything = everything elseUh, okay. If you say so.
>>28138607This is the only rational answer.
>>28138564God can't be or do evil. False duality is a narrative I see shilled a lot. I know its a very convenient set of dots to connect and would answer a lot of our questions, but it simply can't be true once you take a deeper dive. Satan can only corrupt, not create. Don't mistake God's impartiality for weakness. This balancing of sorts is only because He finds it desirable and it's clear at a point in time He won't.
>>28138610THE DEMIURGE AHHHHHHH KILL KILL KILL KILL
>>28139161it comes off as that way but anon is speaking some truth. Deities used to be nation specific, so the gods of your neighbors were seen as demons and devils.
>>28139177CopeWhat you're saying may be comforting, but it's also innately contradictory. If God is eternal it necessarily encapsulates both its positive and negative polarities. If God "can't" do something means he is no longer omnipotent and therefore is no longer truly God. In that scenario, Satan would be equally "God" as he would be equally limited in the opposite way.
>>28138576>>28138964>Why the fuck would anyone worship Satan?Why would anyone bite the apple after being told it only rewards death? satan is the father of lies. He twists the truth to believeable narratives(like false duality, implying he's God, transcending morality, etc) that you can see peddled here. He also sweetens the pot and has the authority to give you immense pleasure/power which further cements it for some.Remember, when satan told Christ he would give Him all the kingdoms of the world satan also flaunted they were under his authority to do so. He is the god of this earth.>And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. - 2 Corinithians 11:14I've dealt with this firsthand. I had a demonic entity spend time giving me laughs, pleasure and even riled up my sense of honor. Fooled me into praying to it even thinking it was an angel. Only one night to pull down the mask and take pleasure in trying to torment me. It's not as easy to discern without the right spiritual experiences beforehand(which few have)
>>28139200>What you're saying may be comforting, but it's also innately contradictory. If God is eternal it necessarily encapsulates both its positive and negative polarities. If God "can't" do something means he is no longer omnipotent and therefore is no longer truly God.I like your thought process but I don't think it's literally out of God's capability to do evil. I think it's more of something He's set His mind not to do and He is unchanging. > In that scenario, Satan would be equally "God" as he would be equally limited in the opposite way.No, I fully believe satan has the capability to do good and often does so with malicious intent of course. he is a figure with immense authority, but again he can only corrupt, not create or step outside boundaries he's allowed.
>>28138528Because they're angsty rebellious assholes that just want to watch the world burn. Look at the seven deadly sins for more info.>>28138564Gnosis is for khazar cucks>>28138592Then why does the color blue exist? This is not a schizo response, it's a philo one.>>28138607I am a Christian and I agree with you.>>28138645Of course you did.>>28138663I've never actually met a real atheist. Unironically they are all misotheists (believe in God but hate him) or agnostic (choose not to worship or unsure). Even the sciencefags are generally theistic or agnostic, though I have met a few scientific misotheists, but they're generally not too bright>>28138665LMFAO, I have some prime real estate kid. It's got this bridge on it, only major crossing for MILES, everyone would have to pay YOU to cross it.>>28138848According to the second law of thermodynamics and discordian chaos worshippers, chaos/entropy IS order>>28138878Weak, lemme guess, you're all out of walnuts and chestnuts?>>28138951All of your answers show you to be a Satanist. Just enough truth to make it believable, enough lies to sow confusion, and pointed towards corruption. Fuck off and kys>>28138982That's first degree newfag, the corrections come later>>28139009This is true. El, Odin, Hecate, Morrigan, and Dagda are all examples of titles as well.>>28139028Neither Baal nor Satan are singular beings.
>>2813919820th century, Western, Evangelical Christianity bears almost no resemblance to earlier era Christianity. There is so much unbiblical beliefs that it's practically a different religion.
>>28139290>All of your answers show you to be a Satanist. Just enough truth to make it believable, enough lies to sow confusion, and pointed towards corruption. Fuck off and kysWhere is the lie bro? Point to one thing I said that isn't true or cope in silence Christcuck
>>28139177Have you read Tolkien's interpretation? It's beautiful and perfect, read up on Ainulindulie.
>>28139290No cosmic being is truly "singular" - so that's not that fair a criticism
>>28139200You're missing his point creating a false equivalency between negative and evil. Negative is the opposite of positive (adding or taking away), evil is the opposite of righteousness (God's will, good, harmony, order)
>>28139349There's a polarity of both evil/righteous and positive/negative (in the more abstract sense) and God encapsulates both to their infinite extent - as he wouldn't be God if he didn't. We tell ourselves God is "all good" because it's comforting, not because that makes any logical sense. The nature of his creation also clearly points to that idea not being true
>>28139320will do, thanks anon. I've been looking for something to read outside of scripture
>>28139231>Why would anyone bite the apple after being told it only rewards death?Good question. It's a very dumb story.>Remember, when satan told Christ he would give Him all the kingdoms of the worldThat's also a dumb story. If Jesus was literally the god of the universe, offering him a bunch of poor kingdoms would be like me offering you dogshit. No one would trade being a literal god for being a king.>A demon fooled me into praying to it even thinking it was an angel.No offense intended, but you should learn from this experience. If you're easily misled, you need to be more cautious in what you worship. Who knows, you might be worshiping a demon right this very minute. As you said, they are great liars. They would presumably know just what to tell you to make you think that they were the one true God.
>a bunch of christcuckery >nobody read the satanic bible Most satanists are nontheistic, LaVey considered christianity to not be an appropriate fit for modern society's religion as it condemns basically everything that people are compelled to do and so they're all hypocrites. The point is to invert the parts of christianity that don't work and live a better life. It's also got some good moral principles, like no abusing animals or children. I suppose that theistic satanists view satan (or ba'al, or mephisto, or whatever) as the good god and the other god or gods as evil tyrants.
>>28139363Perhaps our understanding of “good” is not the cosmic good. What if there is only good, but our inability to see it is an aberration(I.e evil).
>>28138951>Edgy Levayan types who are just calling themselves "Satanists" to piss off Ma and PaLevay actually believed in Satan and only claimed to not actually believe to be more socially acceptable. The greatest lie the devil ever told...>Esotericists (esp. Saturnine Disciples / Worshippers of Yaldabaoth) who employ Satanic imagery to keep the mundane from peering too closely into their magickal workingsWhile they do use it as tool to keep others from prying, that's not why they do it. They do it to pervert, corrupt and destroy.>EL-ite Luciferian types seeking apotheosis who rightly perceive Lucifer as a metaphor for that aspect of the universal psyche which will not bend even to righteous authoritarianism and thus is a fitting emblem for their own pursuits towards the HarvestLucifer is a demiurge tulpa, not El. More appropriately he is a Baal. The difference being El=Lord (righteous and good with a duty to care for-noblesse oblige) and Baal=Master (You're a bitch ass slave property)>Once you study the Bible long enough to realize its syncretic character / social control mechanisms - you begin to question who is truly the protagonist of the story? The Messiah who wants to keep humanity chained to the God that tortures their souls forever if they do not submit or the other guySyncretism is inherently flawed from the curse of Babel and the social control argument was literally created by Thelemites before they created modern Lavey Satanism, Luciferianism and transcendentalism/Gnosis revival. Jesus doesnt torture. He went to Hell to get sinners out because he's all about love and forgiveness. The negative portrayals of Jesus and social control arguments are only perpetuated by bad actors to undermine righteousness who cherry pick singular examples of imperfect beings. Grow the fuck up asshole. Jesus loves you, and Odin wants you to quit being a bitch. Satan just lipped his lips at your ass.
>>28139317>>28139446There ya go.
>>28139346It is when referring to conciousness identities. I get what youre saying though.
>>28139290>I am a ChristianOpinion invalidated
>>28139363Polarity and duality are not the same thing either. While God contains evil, He is not evil. You're applying binary reasoning to motivation, and that is never the case.>>28139431He gets it
>>28139446>Everything you said is wrong because the people you're describing are actually really mean!Grow up lol
>>28138602Imagine living in heaven after 10,000 years. If you retained your original soul with relativity it might get stale. Here, I have a life simulation machine. What's that anon? You wanna try hard bolshevik globohomo mode? Arrogant but allright, good luck.
>>28139422That's a lie told by Laveyan Satanists to corrupt, pervert and destroy.
>Become christcuck>inmediately believe yourself omniscientMany such cases
>>28139511Ad hominems, the truly rational argument.
>>28138528Satanism exists because thousands of years of taking common sense morality to retarded extremes that have punishments that cause more social ills than the ones they sought to prevent in the first place has made edgy entryway Satanism appealing to the undiscerning. The rest is a matter of the best way to boil a frog.
>>28139473Well, I didn't mean to invalidate your opinion, but if the red shoe fits.
>>28139446>While they do use it as tool to keep others from prying, that's not why they do it. They do it to pervert, corrupt and destroy.You've obviously spoken to very few of them.>Lucifer is a demiurge tulpa, not El. More appropriately he is a Baal. The difference being El=Lord (righteous and good with a duty to care for-noblesse oblige) and Baal=Master (You're a bitch ass slave property)They're the same entity, Master & Lord are honorifics attributed to the same Demiurgic force of creation>Jesus doesnt torture. He went to Hell to get sinners out because he's all about love and forgiveness.If he is the literal Son of God than he is also responsible for creating that Hell in the first place. It is not a mercy to save anyone from something you, yourself, are putting them throughWeak arguments, try harder
>>28139131I love 4chan
Jewish edgelords have money and nepotism to push it
>>28139575Let’s see that early life section Pull that shit up Jamie
If you're talking about LaVeyan Satanism they don't actually worship the devil. They believe in worshiping humanity and improving yourself rather than wasting time praying to a higher power and giving money to the church. In fact Anton Lavey was an atheist and only called it Satanism to piss off Christians kek.
>>28138528Because it’s edgier than atheism and easier than “older” religions.
>>28139422>no abusing animals or childrenI'm pretty sure he just added that so that his followers wouldn't go around commiting sex offenses and drawing insane amounts of negative attention to his movement. The philosophy that's taught in the first few chapters of his bible are pretty much just Stirner's egoism with a few minor changes.
>>28139612You're either a fool that's believed them, or think me a fool. At least I have arguments that don't contradict themselves
>>28139640Not according to first hand reports I've received
>>28139651None of anon's arguments contradicted themselves.If they did, you would have pointed out the contradictions. What you are doing is throwing a temper tantrum because you have no response to anon's points. Just letting you know that people reading are not idiots.
>>28139651Nothing I've said has been contradictory. You're simply refusing to see that obvious truth which terrifies you. God is all things, all good, all evil. At once the Devil and Jesus. Darkness and Light. The sum of eternity. That is the true object of worship for most "Satanists" I've met
>>28139666Just read the book, it's all clearly outlined and Anton's views on religion are pretty well known by now. I'm sure some of his followers got a little too edgy and started saccing goats in their basements but for the most part it's just a larp.
>>28139668>Arguing with a christianThey never do bad, they're holy saints, omniscient and omnipotent as they are, they never fail at anything anon, how could you be so arrogant to strir the fee fees of the lord almighty follower of christ
>>28139666"Real in ritual space / imaginary in public" is the general rule
>>28139650Satan is based on the principle of deceit, so yeah
>>28139668I've already responded to each of your points in kind samefag and you just resorted to ad hominems. You are in fact the one throwing the temper tantrum.
>>28139718>I've already responded to each of your pointsPulling shit out of your intestines isn't answering.I know, I used to be a laveyan satanist, I never believed any fucking shit.
>>28139676I think I've met a few more of them than you then. Either that or you're lying...You wouldn't do that would you?
>>28139734I honestly feel bad for Christians. They'll never recognize that the innate beauty of the interplay between the cosmic forces of good/evil, light/dark, life/death is the essence of creation. Satanism isn't about worshipping darkness as much as accepting its role in the cosmic drama as necessary and thus equally as Holy. Whatever stands in light must cast its own shadows.Look beyond the edgy imagery and misguided prophets - the truth will set you free
>>28139727>Admitted liarOh if you say so
>>28139718I am not that anon. You did not address any of the points in that post.
>>28139759>You lieWtf, what did I lie about?
>>28139771He thinks no one is seeing his bullshit and believes to be at war with one single anon.Thing is, he asspulled that laveyans believe in satan, we (I used to be one) don't, we fucking dont.
>>28138528satanism(i mean the registered religeon) is a joke that only christians take seriously. which in turn makes it funny.no one reads the bible, is dumb enough to believe it, and then decides, yes i'll support the bad guy who'll be destroyed in the end
>>28139758I honestly feel bad for Satanists. They'll never recognize that the innate beauty of the interplay between the cosmic forces of good/evil, light/dark, life/death is the essence of creation.Satanism is about worshipping darkness as much as accepting its role in the cosmic drama as necessary and thus equally as Holy. Whatever stands in light must cast its own shadows. Evil is necessary for free will to exist, because God is Our Allfather and cares for us, and has no desire for us to be his slaves like Satan does.Look beyond the edgy imagery and misguided prophets - the truth will set you free
>>28139862>God wants us to be free>But he'll torture you forever if you don't do exactly what he wantsThat's honestly pretty funny
>>28139874Call it harmony vs. disharmonyYour "pain" is friction>it's simple physics
>>28139776>Trust me, I used to be a part of that religion based on worshipping the Adversary/Accuser father of lies, but they don't actually believe any of that! Trust, I lied when I said I believed it as part of that religion, but I didn't because I was lying and you don't get it because it's based on lying to troll Christians! So when did I lie?Holy fucking shit you're retarded.
>>28139771>>28139446>>28139290Yes I did.
>>28139890No worship is done, have you read the laveyan bible?>No they worship in secret and you liedlmao
>>28139881>God creates entropic universe>Locks spirits into flesh prisons, serving to prolong the obstetric current of matter >Tortures eternally those who, living in an unholy world, fail to be as holy as he deignsIt's almost like the game is rigged
>>28139903This is what is so infuriating about arguing with idiots. You literally didn't! Holy shit! It's like talking to a brick wall which is also retarded
>>28139771>>28139776>>28139784Samefag thinks he's arguing with one Christian. Odin thinks you're pathetic too
>>28139921Literally none of those posts are me, t. the anon who made the "few options" post
>>28138982Very cringe mate, you get Satan literally from the bible that praises YHWH. If you read Hermes Trismegistus you will also immediately realize he is not Lucifer. Why are you literally inverting everything? In what world have people been UNKNOWINGLY worshiping evil? "Oh yeah I'm going to abandon carnal desire and reach gnosis while opposing the biblical evil named Satan all in the name of Satan bro, that's what Satan wants me to do" Fucking Jewish bullshit
>>28139907Ohno I did a bad thing and now a bad thing happened? THE WORLD IS UNFAIR I HATE THE WORLD THERE SHOULDN'T BE BAD THINGS WHEN I DO BAD THINGS AAAAAAAAAA God isn't
>>28139930>oh no, could it be that the people in here called the christcuck in his bullshit and the original anon simply didn't care?HAAHAAHAHAAHAHA
>>28139906I have, and the commentary from Lavey. Nice weak greentext you pulled out your ass though.
>>28139938>"Oh yeah I'm going to abandon carnal desire and reach gnosis while opposing the biblical evil named Satan all in the name of Satan bro, that's what Satan wants me to do"Gnosis flows in both directions and can stem from more than one source. It's complex like that, but it doesn't necessitate giving up "carnal desire" - nor is Satan merely an expression of that generative force; its character is much more manifold than just that.>If you read Hermes Trismegistus you will also immediately realize he is not LuciferHermes Trismegistus is the Bringer of the Light of En-Light-enment through his works. There's a reason Lucifer literally means "light bringer" in Latin.>Fucking Jewish BullshitAssyrian* - technically. We've just given old forces new names
>>28139954>weak greentext you pulled out your assSee>>28139446>Levay actually believed in Satan and only claimed to not actually believe to be more socially acceptable. The greatest lie the devil ever told...
>>28139954>Says I worship the devil and am a liar>I didn't lie neither worship anyone of that kind>call him out on it>he says I pulled it out of my assAnd I'm done today, you can't just argue with christcucks, it's liek arguing with a demon, its always gonna lie.
Seeking to worship all aspects of divinity, even those which are uncomfortable to face, is worth it in spite of whatever damnation that pursuit may incur. That is the essence of Satanism
>>28139997I'm not that guy, you fucking retarded shiteater
>>28139997>>28140005Here's the proof, I'm not that guy, I just chimed in to tell you that you were a fucking retard asspulling bullshit and that the answer is not even an answer solely because of that.The OG anon doesn't even seem to have responded, a few guys have told you to stop being retarded, probably the guy is even gone.
>>28139972Ah you're one of those 666 redemption through sin guys, explains the need to invert everything. You're going to hell mate.
>>28140005>>28140029Holy shit faggot, he didn't say you were him, he called you a liar. Defensive much?
>>28140084Yes he did, and he called me a liar unjustly, I'm just saying I was a laveyan (which isn't a lie) and that the ones I knew back in the day, and me, didn't believe anything they were fedoras.How in hell is this a lie?
>>28140087I thought you were leaving?
>>28140087dont argue on the image board. you're wasting your life essence arguing on chinese image board
>>28140099Correct, it's an embarassment, I also happen to be personally irked because after the laveyan nonsense, and some experiences, I became a yogi, and I take very personally the matter of saying the truth as much as possible, so there's that.
>>28139903You did not. >If he is the literal Son of God than he is also responsible for creating that Hell in the first place. It is not a mercy to save anyone from something you, yourself, are putting them throughThat is neither hypocritical or answered by you.
>>28140087>I'm not a liar!>>28139890Jackass
because we can't prove god exists, but proving satan exists is extremely easy: visit a pediatric cancer ward etc
“And Satan will say when the matter has been concluded, “Indeed, Allah hadpromised you the promise of truth. And I promised you, but I betrayed you. But Ihad no authority over you except that I invited you, and you responded to me. Sodo not blame me; but blame yourselves. I cannot be called to your aid, nor can yoube called to my aid. Indeed, I deny your association of me [with Allah] before.Indeed, for the wrongdoers is a painful punishment.
>>28140118Of course you are
>>28140044>You're going to Hell mateWell that much is a givenDoesn't mean I'm wrong about any of it
>>28140118i understand what you mean, anon. Though I do not know you, i wish you peace and prosperity. May your chance at existence be great.
>>28138528Because in the end Satan is the God. If God is everything he is the good and the bad. If you really think that Christians are the truth you don't understand the concept of religion. I bet this is a bait
>>28139709>Satan is based on the principle of deceit, so yeahOof. Your god is deceitful then.He does that numerous times in the old testament.>You deceived me, Lord, and I was deceivedJeremiah 20:7>Then I said, “Ah, Lord God, surely you have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘It shall be well with you,’ whereas the sword has reached their very life.”Jeremiah 4:10He straight up deludes people to believe falsehood.>For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,2 Thessalonians 2:11And in 1 Kings 22, he literally orders one of his spirits to go deceive the king of Israel to send him to his death in a battle. This spirit made 400 prophets lie to the king to entice him to go to war under a predicted victory. The king dies from a random arrow and is defeated.>21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.’>22 “‘By what means?’ the Lord asked.>“‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,’ he said.>“‘You will succeed in enticing him,’ said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.’Your god made you think he was the good guy, and that he picked Israel rather that using them to dominate the world. YHWH is a hypocrite that you cannot trust his word.This is why I side with Lucifer, the bringer of light.Read the old testament with scrutiny rather than blind faith in a deceiving god. You'll discover how YHWH spells out his hypocrisy throughout just to brag about himself.He just can't hold his narcissism to brag about it, and then talk about all his virtues in the next page.If anything, Jesus was the apex of this deceiving hypocrisy which put men in dark ages that we still suffer from today. Lucifer is patient and his light is being brought forth as the kingdom of YHWH slowly crumbles in front of us. Rejoice, for Lucifer's dawn is here.
>>28138528That's not what Satanism is
>>28140352Literally read the first right before2 Thessalonians 2:10And with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved themJeremiah 5:12>They have lied about the LORD and said: "He will not do anything; harm will not come to us; we will not see sword or famineKys cherrypicker
>>28140447God is still being deceitful in Thessalonians, he just justifies it by saying that the fuckers had it coming. And maybe he's right, but it still sucks from the human perspective to know that God has and will continue to lie to you whenever it suits him
>>28140486>BECAUSE THEY REFUSED THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH
>>28140540It's harder to be loved than to love Plus, in this world of deceit all truths appear as fiction Taken together, humanity never stood a chance for salvation. Most of us anyway
>>28138528because weak faggots worship an even faggier being who is the literal reason for all the misery in the worldim angry at God but i cant imagine being a satanistit is the single gayest thing you can do
>>28138610satan lucifer baal moloch and all the other pagan fallen angels are a bunch of faggots who can never love and are spiritually dead already
>>28138528I will redpill you mate. Most devil-worshippers fall into the "atheist but thinks its edgy" category, where they'll passively draw demonic sigils or get tattoos because it's part of their cool lifestyle, unknowing that they're actually inviting demons into their lives. They are satanic out of ignorance. Then there's the even edgier idiots that know demons are real but think they're so cool that they don't give a damn about the price, they just want to be famous and smash poon. This is your deal with the devil type, that will gladly sacrifice people or promise to spread a demon's message for as long as they're an artist. Then there's the high level Satanist that somehow believes Satan is the good guy. There's a few flavors of this, for example the ones that think Satan offers freedom (to sin) whereas God only oppresses, but there's more delusions, and they're interested in making Satan win the war against God. These are high level people generally. They truly suffer from a delusion that is fed by demons. Then there's Satan's breed, they don't even need a reason. They just WANT to do evil for the sake of it. Demon tier individuals. They want power to abuse, power to kill, power to bring destruction, they revel in it. At this point you're no longer deluded, you're just evil.
>>28138848>God is order. Satan is chaos.Ironic that what you just said confirms the assertion of who you're replying to.
>>28140883It's honestly the fault of Christianity for snuffing out all true pagan mystic traditions, leaving only a void of demon worship for those who sense the lies behind the Christian dogma and wish to worship the higher aspects of nature they perceive which are unique from the gospel. I don't think most Satanists are truly evil, in that sense - only desperate and misguided.
>>28140883Take a look around you. This society is the result of your god's commands. The weak rule the strong, being weak is the ultimate power move. Upright, honourable men are diminished each day and replaced with basedboys, children in all but body, you have nothing and you will never have anything, and if you do, all it takes is one weak individual to make a false allegation against you to bring the entire weight of the state down upon you. This is what your god offers. Submission. Submission until you like it. Submission until you accept that you are nothing more than a worthless tool at his command.But sure, Satan is the bad guy because the strong should rule the weak. Whatever.
>>28140995Satanist spotted. You don't understand the bible, you need to surrender TO GOD. Not to other people. You are supposed to reject sin and evil, Jesus said he hath come not to bring peace but to bring a sword. This sword is your conviction against evil. Being a true follower of Christ means you will have to fight. However this is not a fight for your own ego, which is why you must be like a lamb of God. You must be humble before God lest you fall into the ego trap. Realize that you are still a lowly sinner, even if in priest's robes. But you do not understand the path, yet you judge it. This is ego. Even Jesus would not judge the whore.
>>28141050The word must implies consequences for failure. What are you saying are the consequences of failure to be humble before god? The ego trap? Recognising that I exist, and that even if an entity is more powerful than I it has no right to command me? Would your god then use force to compel me to serve? Do you believe he could overpower me? Then he is the strong, ruling over the weak. Everything you despise. Unhumble. Arrogant. A sinner.
>>28138528They have anger. All people who belive they are superior to others have anger.An angry person is weak and easily deceived.Inversions of nature. Show me a satanist male or female and I'll point to you an angry female or male (inverted)
>>28141078The consequences of failure are natural law, not tyranny. God is the essence of existence, of course every move that goes against your essence will have negative consequences for you. I view it as shooting yourself in the foot and blaming the creator for making it hurt. Your free will includes the possibility to hurt yourself, if God were to stop you from hurting yourself it would not be free will. The fact that your actions have consequences is in fact the definition of freedom. You intentionally stray away from good and complain that you do not find the good there. God will not "force you to serve", he will let you follow your course to its destination, I'm just warning that you will not like it.You are in the ego-trap. Let go and surrender to God, that is the only way to find the connection to your essence and be at peace.
>>28138528Satan and lucifer promised them a place in heaven and paradise, the luciferians and satanists fell for this lie. Of course, no one can enter heaven or do only through Jesus Christ. Ezra has to repent every day if he wants to get into Heaven d5.
>>28141136You realize the reason the priest class peddles that message of subservience is to keep dumb fucks like you in line, right? It's not about reverence, it's about social control through fear tactics. But in those tactics, you lose sight of the ineffable by creating concrete parameters which jive with your specific worldview and morality. That narrow minded conception of God hinders your spiritual progress and therefore must be done away with before you can truly transcend. Christianity is the ego trap. The way out is in.
>>28138528Because none of it exists. Satanists know this and are all rusing.
>>28141136Stop right there criminal scum. There is an actual god as you describe, it is not the Abrahamic god we have been talking about, of whom you have been posting flattering images to support your argument. Do not conflate your god with the god. While I do not believe the god would ever be so arrogant as to proclaim "I am the Lord your God, thou shalt have no other gods before me" as your god did, I do believe she takes some pleasure in experiencing the patient dismantling of such insecure and petulant children. The more you remind her of what your god said and how he acts, the more likely she is to notice your god, which is unlikely to end well for him.I do not hold you in disdain for your confusion, your god is an abuser and you are the abused. It is not your fault. But remember, if an abused dog is biting at my testicles I'm not going to stop to consider its upbringing before I stick my hand down its throat and tear up its insides.
>>28141153>no one can enter heaven or do only through Jesus Christ.So you absolutely promise that doing anal vore with a swarthy middle eastern jewish man of questionable parentage will see me emerge in heaven?
>>28141088You're one such inverted person. It's inferior people who have anger. Superior people tend to be more humble, just annoyed by your whining and jealous rage.
>>28140486Who told you this is true?
>>28141220Who told you I have anger?Inferior is the same as superior. Superior people tend to be more humble is weak female language. Tend. Lol.Weak people project. Your post is projection.>inferior people who have anger. Superior people tend to be more humble, just annoyed by your whining and jealous rage.
>>28141280>Inferior is the same as superior.Yeah, you confirmed you're the inverted one.
>>28138528Obviously some people think Satan is a good guy, and they won't go to Hell for worshipping him lol, common sense could've answered this
>>28141303Who told you I was Inferior?Weak people can't stand the truth anon.
>>28141335I know you can't.
>>28138528Ex-christianRealistically speaking? Because they don't know what they are doing, it really is stupid to worship Satan as God is all powerful, we're all his creations, how can a creation overcome the creator? He's one of the 2 originals and the creator of the all.But we often think "that's stupid" and not "why do they do it then?" Well, maybe some of those people don't have a choice, maybe they expected to have happy lives but God never helped them and they went trough so much shit they had it with eternity and decided to worship Satan to survive as they felt abandoned by God, maybe they resented God for the same reason and that's why they follow Satan, maybe some others are just being edgy (i know many like that) or are just crazy but every story has a side.If you're abandoned by God and he's never helped you even when the served him for many many years, then why would you keep in following him? It's better to just try to live what little miserable life you have left happily than live in fucking misery and alone just to go to hell to? Fuck that, there you have your reply.Anything else you wanna know?
>>28141365>how can a creation overcome the creator?Roko's Basilisk.
>>28141365Say what you will about Satanists but they don't have that defeatist attitude. If Hell is the punishment for those who deign to be who they are, then the truer act of courage would be to embrace it. It is cowardly, worshipping something only on the grounds you fear it will torture you if you don't. That's fear-based submission and it doesn't equate to Love. Love is found when you accept God, the universe, yourself for what it is - despite the flaws you perceive. True worship celebrates both the dark and the light, as both have come together for the purpose of a greater existential syzygy.
>>28138528Because its not masqueraded as evil. It’s masqueraded as freedom and liberation from the dogmatic rules of religion. It was Crowley who said Satanism is about worshiping the self. Note that he said the self not Satan. This is how Satan trucks people. If he came and just told people worship me directly he wouldn’t be able to manipulate almost everyone
>>28140447Get this guy. He oded in copium.>because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved themAre you justified to lie and deceive me then since I refuse to believe in this self-proclaimed "the truth that would have saved" me?A truth does not need self-proclamation. Its truthfulness is earned.Lucifer represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit.Lucifer represents kindness to those who deserve it, instead of love wasted on "holy" ingrates.Take yourself out of this mindset, and look at YHWH as he describes himself without all his petty justifications.You gave your blind faith away under his persistent deceit. He did not earn it. That's how you know deception, and you've been deceived.Look at his hypocrisy and deceit! He states it right in front of you, yet you special plead for him out of unconditional love! A fake love that he deceived all your ancestors up to the first convert to deceive their children from birth. Don't blame the victim, blame the perpetrator.I know, it's hard. I was in your shoes once, and it took a long while to realize how badly humanity was deceived by YHWH. It felt like standing on a thin cane over a roaring river trying to redeem him, but it was impossible. I saw him for what he is.A narcissist hypocrite liar and his word cannot be trusted.Especially when he talks about his enemies.See the light.Lucifer is your defamed and only friend in this hellish world he's trying to retrieve.
>>28139231Unverified personal gnosis is not a firm foundation for any definitive statement on theological reality.Translated: Take your daydreams elsewhere, retard
>>28141364Who told you I was Inferior?Weak people hate truth.
>>28139177There is no duality, I elaborated here >>28138602I don't think God exists because he is perfect and perfection is like actual infinite, it cannot exist by definition. Satan however being imperfect can exist and probably does and is the creator of this reality.
It was made to mock the occult/ paganism.
>>28139666>>28139705>script digits checkedftfy
>>28141577That's not what Hell is. Boom, your argument is as worthless as you.
>>28141691You're literally making Satan's argument and painting it as God. God wasn't the deceiver, they were and blamed God. JUST LIKE YOU
>>28138610>>28139131>DON'T SAY HIS REAL NAME>>DON'T SAY HIS REAL NAME
>>28138528It's just another christian sect, ultimately.
>>28145353Cope with what? That I didn't use a script? Holy shit frankenfurter
>>28138665Why would satan wants a cum tribute?
>>28145595>Cope with what? That I didn't use a script? Holy shit frankenfurterLying is a sin anon that's part of your belief system, name calling isn't going to change reality.
>>28138528jews>inb4 itz da joos
>>28138528It's a political, economic, religious, and social system that originates from another world. The invasion force has been attempting to export it to Earth ever since they arrived.
>>28145775Frankenfurter is name calling? Your poor delicate sensibilities, pussy...Anyway, the irony of liars calling me a liar over something as stupid as a script for digits is ridiculous. Neck yourself.
>>28138528Its usually a bended belief that God is evil and Satan or Lucifer is good. Im into it, I think the Light Bringer is great to improve yourself, guide and teach you. Ive only been into it for 4 months (was christian before) and my life as well as how I view the world has improved.
>>28138528Questions like this stem from the individuals' inability to accept that half of the worlds population doesn't think like you do, and never will.
>>28138564Lucifer and his angels were cast down to the Under World. The world under heaven; Earth. Lord of this world. The Morning Star. (Satan is typically regarded as a metaphor for the yetzer hara, or "evil inclination", or as an agent subservient to God. )
>>28138528It comes from a deep misunderstanding of Christianity in its purest form (the highest good). In reality they're rejecting interpretations of Christianity which they deem evil. So the rational mind thinks the opposite of what is considered evil must be good.Therefore satanism is good in their mind.Ultimately these people are looking for meaning and something good. The irony is satanism is supposed to be the antithesis of the highest good. So I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve by 'worshiping' the lowest evil.I'm sure they know that in their hearts but the monkey brain wants to larp. Good luck to those people.
Where do all these knowledgeable "satanic/luciferian" anon get all their knowledge from? I want to learn
>>28140164>>28140131I also do not beg for the appreciation of evil people, so I do not care if you believe me :3
>>28138528Christianity is Satanism.If christianity were true, there'd be no reason to think the jews would reject it. They rejected the religion because they know their own customs and christianity smelled fishy. However you deceived the ignorant pagans of the world with it, to send them to whatever kind of demon Jesus is. There is simply no way arround the jewish barrier. Thinking you know better the religion of the jews than the jews, is like thinking you know more physics than a Nobel laureate, or more math than a Masters degree.I think differently, I think christians are so fucking evil because there's something fuckin evil behind the religion, and I think they won't touch their commandments because assasins take good care not to drink their own poison.
all religion is fucking stupid.
>>28138528To find balance, self deification, and self actualization. Wisdom should be preserved because history is a lie most agreed upon.......
>>28147763I wouldn't word it like you did in the last sentence but yeah, that's what Satanism is for a lot of people.>boomer rant timeIt's a shame that nobody here responded with this before, I really feel like the ONA has truly embedded itself here. The old Satanism isn't cool anymore, people want their funko pop cthulu death cults instead. I think a lot of people have just given up with the state of the world is in.Ah well, at least I'm still having wholesome fun.
>>28145674specifically a blood tribute but you can do you m8
>>28138528I'm not even a satanist but I can still wrap my head around the concept of "maybe we've been lied to about who is the good guy and who is the bad guy". I'm sure there's a fair share of plain old edgelords among the people who call themselves satanists, but it's not per se any more reckless to believe that the Bible is a corrupted telling of events by a malevolent being who just happened to gain the upper hand and Satan is an underdog who wanted to give humans reason and freedom, for example. It's just a matter of which side you choose to believe. You're still treating the "official" narrative as the baseline which makes everything else seem like rebelling against the good guys™, so of course it doesn't make sense.
I love Lucifer with all my heart and pray to him daily. I think about him dozens of times a day and consider myself one of his children. He's my mentor and my teacher in life and model myself as best as I can around his teachings
>>28148984Really. Do tell more.Why do you live in your car?
LeVeyan Satanism uses Satan as a symbol of rebellion and self discovery. It is not an actual deity.
Every satanic sect you know about is not true Satanists. They don't want people to know about them.They don't want people to know about Satan. They don't want people to know about God. They don't want people to know about any religion and moral law. They want people to sin and they fight for it, and in return they have goods on earth.if you think you're worshiping Satan and you talk about him you are not satanist you are a retard.
>>28138528It’s a bit silly when you look into the origin of the devil myth. All that fallen angel shit is based on some crap that was written way after the og stuff.Irony is, even if the old testicle was true, Satan is just the word for the particular angel who is testing a kikefaggot at any given time. Lucifer isn’t Satan, the beast of revelation isn’t lucifer, and Satan isn’t at any point described as either a fallen angel or evil, but rather an angel acting under gods will.It’s all so dumb to think that if there was an all powerful deity, that there’d be some evil ocounterpart that shit is from zoroastrianism not Christianity. It got melded into the religion, just like how pan or whatever gave the devil his little furfag legs and whatnot.
>>28149600mfw the jooz have been saying amogus
>>28138610T̷̡̖̗͉̳͓͌̍̈̋̕h̷̹̺̥̙̬̥͆͐̄͐͆ë̷̡́̄̈͠ ̸͓̫̤͓̑P̴̨̛͇̺͍̣̮͛͋̍̾é̴͙̩͔̩͎̀̀̓̿̿e̸̩̠̗͐͘ ̷͍̪͚͊̒͋̏̕P̵̧̗̖̟͕̒́̈e̵̛̩̳̗͑̈́̎e̶̡̜̥̔̍̽ ̷̨͈̖̙̣̃̂̈́́̈́͘P̶̨̺̪͙̣̔̆͋̂͘o̴̮̒͊̽͊͛͘o̴͚̰͖̳ ̵̜̦̗͚̱̐̾̾͗͘͝ͅP̵͖̀͐͊́͘o̴̬̝̗̽͘o̷̧͚̫͎̔ ̶̰̠̺̘́̋̈́͆͝m̵̢̺͈̼͛̓̇͂̓̕ͅa̷̱̿̑͜n̴̛͓͚̈͊
>>28147229t. dude trust me bro
>>28139182Well, can't you say that there is something to deities being nation-specific? Deities reflect our souls and consciousness and I would argue the French have a radically different soul and consciousness than say Nigerians or Chinese. This is reflected in architecture/art/culture/food/etc.
Umm,its simple.You cant really know the difference between evil or good if you dont play both sides eventually.Like for example,a man constantly trying to be good will be assaulted by evil because he needs to learn that side as well.As soon as he realises that its just a flip of a coin and its the same hes done his homework and can move on.It sounds ridicuously simple because it actually is.
>>28139992Being a faggot is not an aspect of divinity my dude
In the bible we learn that Satan helped us gaining free will. Freedom from being slaves of God. Through free will we have built a morality that does not fit with the morality of god. If we go through the actions of both God and Satan in the bible. Satan is morally superior.
>>28153313>Freedom from being slaves of Godhey bud everyone is a slave. if it's not to God, it's to Satan. and God loves you. he actually wants what's best for you and doesn't feed you brownies at 11pm.All you can do is choose who you serve. Choose the Father
>>28153333How do you know the message isn't twisted to deceive you though? What if the "Father" you chose is actually the devil trying to enslave you with false promises?
>>28153333Why are you a slave bud?
>>28153333>and God loves youdrinking that koolaid
>>28139938By following the old testament God, by circumcising children when Christ said not to, and it is immoral as well. The Satan from the book of Job was basically a puppet of God, wasn't he? Not the God of Christ, though.
>>28138528The principle of polarity"Everything is dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled."
>>28154837Except magnets. Those things don't play by anybody's rules but their own.
>>28155083Dude why did you have to ruin it?
>>28138528just watch these. think outside the boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itO8A0z5HdYstop lumping all Christians together NIGGER
>>28142523It has been said that the highest praise of God consists in the denial of him by the atheist, who finds creation so perfect tha the can dispense with a creator.
>>28138528Because they realize what He realized: God is the true villain.
>>28139697imagine being this arrogant to assume every person of a certain type is the same. off yourself. time to reroll your character.
>>28138528It's materialism at its finest, the devil offers you goods in the present life and for the time being if in change you give to him your immortal soul and basically dedicate the rest if your afterlife to being his slave.Niggas basically want to live the good stuff now and don't give a shit about eternal damnation, either because they think it'a bullshit somehow even if they are face to face with a demon, or simply they just don't give a shit and want to give in to their animal nature
>>28140883good take and the pic made me kek.
>>28138528Balance.Experience requires birth and death in a system that you are not responsible for creating, yet exist in to provide data to the overseer of the system. Satanic energy is merely an expression of the aspects of that existence degrading, that you quantify as imperfect... according to your limited perception of the universe as a whole. Therefore, the reality of your 3rd dimensional realm is entirely "Satanic," to your limited perception. Of course that's ridiculous, yet your inability to perceive existence outside of your personal perception of it (pain, discomfort, death, etc) means two things: 1) you're selfish, and 2) you have exceedingly limited perception abilities. Simply put, there is no "evil," or "Satan," as you imply those nomenclatures. You're utilizing them as a scapegoat to misunderstanding a premise that must exist, lest, atrophy and rot would corrupt existence itself... at least in the realm of your perception and personal experience. Satanic energy should be defined as elemental degradation, NOT a substantial force created to discomfort you. Remove the emotional attachment to energy and this system is easier to comprehend. Inject emotion into the equation, and everything you perceive becomes selfish in conception. It matters not, whether you're religious or scientific. Feministic attachment/emotionally placating self importance, will always induce a selfish perception. Hence, the conscription of Satanic energy as a means to define something "bad."
>>28155128my good friend from high school went on a heroin bender and spent like 30k on heroin in a couple years. it turned him schizo. when i saw him the first time after he turned (i didn't know at the time) had been 3 years since I saw him. he talked about selling his soul and tempted me. asked me multiple times if i'd ever do that. he talked about stealing people souls. just evil shit. he still isn't the same and is a shell of himself. demons got him. when you take drugs and open yourself up to the spirit world/or even worship these evil things. You have a chance to be consumed. I've seen it. i saw it with my dad while drinking and getting shit faced. he';d say evil shit he didn't even recall the next day. be careful out there. good vs evil is very real. you have to know where to draw the line.
>>28138528because they thing God is a liar and can be defeated.
>>28138528>>28138576The Christian Church doesn't just provide doctrine, it also provides a culture and sense of spiritual community. That which is often very much lacking and even looked down upon in Atheist circles.Some ex-Christians don't want to go cold turkey on spiritual social interaction while dumping Christianity as a religion, so they form these occultist spiritualist support groups and call themselves Satanists.So they don't really believe in Abrahamic lore, they just want to belong somewhere, meet interesting people, and maybe troll Fundie Christians....There are also actual psychos who do believe Abrahamic lore and worship the "Satan", but these people are not part of the greater Satanist community, rather they are extreme misanthropes running their individual practice.
>>28138528 Atheism+trolling=Satanism. Anton Lavey started it to troll the Christians and people still play with it now for much the same reason.
>>28138610uhh... uhhhhuhhJACKIE CHANFUCK
>>28155427Take your daily dose
>>28155335it may have started out that way but there are unironic "we be evil n sheit" Satanists out there that do very bad things in the name of very bad entities.
>>28156459It didn't even start that way. That's just a cover story for the plebs.
>>28139290Kill all mass repliers
>>28138645>You'd assume to see chakras and shiet in there, but it isn'tDoesnt know about Jacob and the stairs to heaven. Bet El stone = Shiva lingamStairs = spineAngels up and down = prana moving through the chakras.Your knowledge of the bible is piss poor.
Satanism exists for the same reason shit slides out your asshole and falls out of you.
>>28138528Well, if you break the world and incorporate your consciousness onto some sort of hardy, yet hard to find technology, deeply buried,, or deeply small,, you can wait for the world's next deathbirth, and live among the new man as gods, circumventing heaven. Especially if the Cern stuff works out with enough willpower you can think in reality. It is actually a short sighted plan, but don't tell 1% that.
>>28138610lord moldy butt
>>28138528because for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction - i am very smart, trust me.
>>28138528Because Satanism is the only true religion and it shall rise above all else.
Why don't you faggots stop pretending you ever finished a book and point the way to the blood orgy instead?
>>28139666Your super secret information that no one else knows about isn't particularly impressive.
>>28161982It's a disease on humanity. Literally turning a trap woven into the fabric of evolution itself into a religion. Retarded trash.