>People report seeing "snow", much like the visual noise or "static" on a TV screen after transmission ends. In a 2010 study Raghaven et al. hypothesize that what the patients see as "snow" is their own intrinsic eigengrau.>Many report more visual snow in low light conditions. This has a natural explanation. "The intrinsic dark noise of primate cones is equivalent to ~4000 absorbed photons per second at mean light levels; below this the cone signals are dominated by intrinsic noise">In addition to visual snow, many of those affected have other types of visual disturbances such as starbursts, increased afterimages, floaters, trails, fractals, and many others.While the cause of visual snow remains unknown, eye tests and CT scans reveal no abnormalities. Patients with VS are observed to have increased blood flow and neurological excitability in the Cerribellium that affect the pathways related to image processing. The hypothesis is that VS suffers are unable to filter out much of the visual information the brain usually ignores, and as a result can perceive static and floating lights, regardless of their eyes are open or closed. This suggests that the grainy static, dots and lights seen by people with the disease are indeed viable, not artifacts of image processing.I've had VS my whole life, it took me a few years to realise other people weren't seeing it, which is typical for most people with the condition.My symptoms are manageable. it stresses me out sometimes, and I have seen some weird stuff in my field of vision, but I can tune it out pretty easily.To me, this is just normal, I see it all the time. Constantly. Here's a very accurate simulation of what it's like:https://youtu.be/joQedu6zGaAWhat is /x/'s take on this?
i've seen this my whole life, never seen an issue with it. Makes the night more interesting
It's chi energy or something it's atoms or photons and I'm pretty sure it's how u dream the mind makes patterns out of it or something when u sleep
mine is more like very very fine static over every object, constantly, almost like it's vibrating
same story, OP. had it all my life. however,>This suggests that the grainy static, dots and lights seen by people with the disease are indeed viable, not artifacts of image processing.no it doesn't. most brains filter it out because, obviously, it is noise. it's information that impairs our vision. I really fail to see how you even jumped into that conclusion.
>>27328892You mean like this?
>>27329278>>27329384>>27329389>>27329422Interesting how a condition considered extremely rare is experienced by at least five different people with at least some interest in the paranormalThat's annicdotal, but interesting!>>27329422The consensus is that the static is literally electromagnetic energy. Its information that we all perceive through our eyes, that most of us can filter out. It's viable, and would still be there even if you couldn't see it>>27329462Yes that's pretty much how I see things too anon
>>27329462what the fuck not even 700ug made me see reality like that. If thats the case for you how do you function lol
>>27329690It's not every effect at the same intensity all the time. Sometimes they are subtle and I have to focus on them. Though sometimes they are very distracting.
I see it the most in the dark, but even in the brightest of environments it's there. all the other stuff about afterimages, floaters and such are true for me too. if i stare up into the sky when it's clear and really sunny, I can see individual little white blood cells dancing around in what i can only assume is the weird juice inside the eye, if not the blood behind or around it or whatever. it's quite weird.
It happened to me when i coughed too hard. What i saw were shiny little white specks, moving around like sparklers on the edges of my vision. I believe the term is called "phosphene." It happens when you have a sudden increase in blood pressure.
>>27329805I hate those the most, but like you said, I can only see it looking up the sky too. Also for me, the sky almost vibrates in waves sometimes.
>>27328892Yo I thought everyone had this?
Yes, I’ve experienced VS my entire life. My wife and my best friend also have it. Personally, I think it’s much more common than reported and most people just don’t pay attention to it. I believe those of us who noticed it without being prompted by another individual should count ourselves as more aware. Experience of VS vary largely from person to person. Personally, my VS is very faint and since I’ve had it my entire life I’m easily able to “tune it out” when I need to, however it is always present. Perception is so subjective it’s hard to quantify in a way that can be understood by someone else.
>>27329827Actually caused by low blood pressure, low blood sugar i mean.
nothing X about it it's just physics
>>27329871Explain how visual phenomena is “just physics”
I get this a lot when I'm high. So much so that I've seen recurring shapes that are clearly visible and moving. Usually grids of dots, or weird symmetrical shapes. Most often I see two triangles facing toward one another in an X Shape.
>>27328892happens to me, drives me nuts. have similar auditory white noise so basically need dim lighting and white noise to sleep because my brain simply wont filter it out.
>>27328892I also experience this. When I close my eyes, it’s significantly more intense and I see fractals, misty figures swirling in the darkness and occasional full-on visions. It’s pretty rad if you meditate on the visions and see what manifests. I have aphantasia and all I see is whatever comes to me in the static. Once I saw the all seeing eye and it filled me with terror.My understanding is it has to do with blood vessels in the eye, floaters and so on. I remember reading a wiki article about a scientist who had it and saw visions in a hypnagogic state. Allegedly the scientist fell asleep watching a fire and saw two snakes reveal the chain structure of a chemical he was working on. I don’t know how mystical it all is, but once I had my brainwaves measured and the technician mentioned that my theta waves spiked 200% rather than the normal 50% when they had me close my eyes to establish a baseline. I imagine the snow and matrixing or seeing whatever our mind wants us to see leads to increased activity in the creative parts of the brain.This is all anecdotal from my experience and likely rife with errors, so any input is welcome. You’re not alone, anon. It’s weird.
>>27328892WHAT THE FUCK. I have this exactly, my eye doctor said it was caused by astigmatism
>>27328892I live all my life with it. Also have bad migraine time to time.But dots present every moment.
Yep, always had it.
does anyone else experience tinnitus? for my entire life i've had VS and chronic tinnitus
Yah sometimes its strong other times is barley there. I think its fun.>>27332125https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsCTBeGrT8khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztSBhvt4v-EI work in a print shop and these help alot. I have done them over a course of 6 months. But get deafening ringing when I get a spiritual message that I need to understand.
>>27328892Same here. I even get DMT like fractals from time to time, usually when i rub my eyes
Yeah I have this and have noticed it some I was very young. Mostly only notice it in the dark but sometimes also on a bright plain surface like a white wall or the sky as another anon said.
>>27328892>eigengrauThanks OP, I've learned a new thing today.I've heard some people have significantly more visual snow even in lighted conditions, but I have to look really closely in those low-light conditions to see anything of the sort.>>27332125It seems like VS is like the visual version of tinnitus, right?
I've had this shit my whole life and noticed it as a kid, definitely when eyes are closed. Never knew how to explain and never asked anyone about it because of that, and also because I didn't know if everyone had it. Hasn't ever bothered me. Made for some entertaining closed eye times though. I believe it has gotten less strong as I've gotten older though, used to be way crazier as a kid. For open eye, it is way less noticeable, just more like a barely seen static filter or however you want to term it over my vision. What I see with eyes closed doesn't carry over to eyes open.
the worse part is trying to sleep, the snow makes you see stuff out of corner of eyes
>>27332125I learned today through researching VS that I also have chronic tinnitusIts weird, it's a constant overlay over my normal hearing, just like VS, but I can hear when electrical devices are on around meDuring the day it's less noticeable, but if a TV is on in my house at night I can hear the frequency emission, same with radio, microwaves, security cameras etc I thought everyone could hear itI'm anycase I've learned that Sight/Hearing are as married as senses as Smell/Taste, which is really cool
>>27332272oh yea don't know if it is related, but I've also had migraine "auras" that basically is a blind spot. Luckily I very rarely get migraines because it is super weird.
>>27328892I have visual snow and it fucking bothers the hell out of me when I've noticed it. I want whatever was filtering them before to work again. Screw having to view reality through an old TV.
>>27328892>What is /x/'s take on this?I'm struggling to cope with the idea that this is some rare disease and not just how human eyes work. You're fucking with me, right?
>>27332345Several of us can testify we have snow. I got mine after getting off Zoloft for the first time.
>>27329462there's an eye condition that causes this but I lost the fucking name. Antiscoptic or someething not even close to that.
>>27332355No I'm saying how does anyone NOT have it? Am I not seeing what most people see? I'm actually freaking out right now, I'm 31 years old and suddenly finding out that this isn't normal.
>>27332367No, most people don’t have “pixels” or “atoms” or whatever you want to call it. No, it’s not a sign that anything else is wrong. Nobody knows why some of us have this.
I'm wondering how many people here have VS and have taken an SSRI. Anyone else?
>>27332367Its okay anon, reallyThe neurons in your cerabellum are overexcited, which means your 'resting' visual reception in the brain are higher than normalTo me, it's less a question of 'what's wrong with my brain' than 'what exactly IS that static?'No cause for concern though, you've had it this long and it hasn't caused you any problems
>>27328892What's the Venn diagram of people with visual snow and people that experience the paranormal?
>>27328892I see the same shit as the video but the colors are always as vibrant as a gay pride parade. It is also described often as "prisoners cinema" What I find most interesting is the fractals. On one occasion I saw a circular fractal pattern in every color seeming to expand and contract in on itself at the same time in shifting geometric shapes. >>27329805The white dots, if you manage to track them will follow the same patterns. It's hard to track them because they move with your eye. The white blood cells are traveling through the capillaries in your eye. I don't think it's connected to the prisoners cinema phenomena directly, but it seems that most people that see them also see the prisoners cinema.
>>27332125yes, since I was a kid I had a low rumble, recently it has gotten to severe levels, a high pitched scream that can be heard over everything. it makes my life miserable.>>27332383I’ve had VS since before I was on SSRIs...I think. I started SSRIs at a very very young age but I’m pretty sure I had it even before.
>>27332383I have, a lot, but I've seen it for as long as I remember, long before I took ssri's.
>>27332431>>27332383>>27332301>>27332272Any severe childhood fevers?
>>27332462Yes, it was enough to cause a seizure when I was a toddler.
>>27332462I don’t think so. I’ve had plenty of fevers as a lot of kids do but nothing severe or worth mentioning.
I've never really thought about it but when I close my eyes that video is pretty close to what I see. I didn't think it was special.
>>27332479>>27332483ok. I ask because my first memory before visual snow and hearing "the hum" is a severe fever at the age of 4 or 5, Ever since I have been unable to black out and have always remained fully cognizant while still in altered states, like my consciousness in compartmentalized. I'm trying to make connections as to why I am the way I am. I don't get the luxury of not remembering what I did while high or drunk. SSRI's seem to split me into two people, myself as a passenger and my body obeying the drug. I stay away from that shit now. It's fucking terrifying.
>>27332383I've had visual snow since I was a young kid and the only SSRI I have taken has been recent and it is a low strength one for sleep aid only. This isn't something that popped up later in life for me.>>27332402>'what exactly IS that static?'Same. Just have no idea what it is, but it's never concerned me.>>27332462Not that I can recall. I had frequent ear infections, which might have caused fever, but no noteworthy big fevers from childhood. If they happened it was before I could form concrete memories, though even then my parents nor older sister have ever mentioned anything like that to me.
>>27332527Also I'm not opposed to the idea that it's brain damage. I'm smart. Smart enough anyway, but slow. I'm better at writing than speaking because I can take my time.
>>27332527wtf same but, i don't know about any fevers
>>27332618The fever may have nothing to do with it, I'm just looking for common themes.
>>27329278the visual snow/closed eye segment is accurate, but if you see that many floaters you might either have OCD or an optic nerve problem. If I stare at a blue sky I can see that much shit floating around never during a normal image.If I look hard I can see the snow while typing this, but literally no floaters
>>27332639I see a fuckload of floaters everywhere, but I also got flashbanged as a kid.
>>27332319Very painful as well I always throw up from the pain.
i've always had VS, it manifests itself as like a faint film grain. it's never bothered me or made it difficult to concentrate or function, but maybe i've just gotten used to it. my sister says she has it too.
>>27332726I wonder if it's one of those things that everyone has but most people accept it as just part of life so they ignore it and don't report it as abnormal, which makes it only seem rare.
>>27332807I wonder this too. It may be that they aren't even aware of it. Kind of like how you don't see your nose unless you think about it.
>>27328892I get this when I get proper angry at something, It glimmers like stars in the night sky and fades away shortly after I calm down.
>>27329864>wife and best friendtread carefully anon, you don’t seem the questioning type but the world is coming fast to people without their knots tied tightly enough, know what I’m sayingjust looking out bro, I don’t doubt you experience what you do but you should doubt everything and everyone else
It wasn't until recently that I was made aware of this, I also assumed everyone experienced it. I have really bad VS to the point where colors bleed into each other and I see visual "halos" around lights. Throughout the years it's become worse and has created an intense sense of dissociation that I can't quite explain. I know what's happening is real but I can't shake the sense that it isn't. Best way I can describe it is that deep existential feeling people get when they stare at themselves in the mirror for too long only worse.Do you experience this too?
>>27332894Tread carefully anon, you're projecting massively. Adultery isn't new, anyone that actually has a wife already knows and understands what im saying and why you're retarded.
Light halos are not connected to VS as far as I understand. It's basically lens flare. The older you get the worse it gets. If you have astigmatism like I do, lens flare fucking everywhere. You need glasses or you'll need them soon. You'll still see the VS though.
>>27329667I think everybody has it they just don’t notice, the effect becomes amplified on LSD I've noticed and I’ve had it my whole life. That “snow” you’re seeing is actually energy, psychics can see this static form a dim silhouette of other entities on people as well as their auroras or “energy field”, but it takes a lot of focus and meditation to work up to this. Those with enough natural talent can see the dead while conscious but that’s usually something you have to be born with.
>>27332894>Generalization and massive projection. Generalization is a weak minds attempt to grasp the complexity of life. Projecting is just insecurity. You don’t know me.
>>27329667>Interesting how a condition considered extremely rare is experienced by at least five different people with at least some interest in the paranormal
>>27333897I have synesthesia, visual snow, and have natural/unintentional lucid dreams. I'm not sure how I feel about all the GATE stuff, but in elementary school I was regularly taken with 3 other kids out of class to an "advanced" class they called "enrichment." I don't remember much from it, besides doing some logic puzzles and watching videos.
>>27334051Welcome to the club.
I have had this forever. I used to get severe migraines as a child, I still get bad headaches when it rains. The migraines went away thankfully (around age 17) but the visual snow persisted. I was told it was more common with people who had migraines or other similar issues. It literally looks like I'm seeing atoms or microscopic particles whenever I see. I've gotten used to it, but I still wonder what the cause may be.
>>27334100I remember the shape test, and some hearing things, but nothing past elementary school. As in, nothing happened in middle and high school, at least that I remember.Did you pick a shape?I picked the star.I remember the plus was boring, the squiggles were worms and the box was too peaceful. Or its a different memory and I'm appropriating elements. I guess that's a possibility.
>>27328892Everything looks like a big fucking oil painting. From a distance it looks like god took an enormous brush and painted around silhouette of every object, I focus for a minute and my mind cobbles it together into finer and finer brush strokes until everything is "real", and then it fades in and out. Its not actually that bizarre but that is vaguely what it feels like.
>>27333305I didn't want to be the one to say it but I agree it's energy of some kind I've observed it forming images when you dream hypagognic imagery among other things
>>27332366They call it closed-eye visualisation, I think; differentially diagnosable with Charles Bonnet syndrome.
can this be cured using rituals?
Lol, hello fello GATE kids
>>27334051I have visual snow and can vaguely remember going to special therapy as my parents called it weird thing is I can't for the life of me remember what went on in there.
>>27332895The hallos are described perfectly... I didn't know you weren't supposed to see themMost VS sufferers have some form of anxiety or disassociation for this very reason, the constant visual stimulican keep the brain in an early stage of Fight or Flight during the dayAnd not knowing what if what you're seeing is real can do hell of a number on a person's psychology if they obsess over itAs far as I'm concerned, what these things are is none of my businessIf it's something significant one day I'll know, if not there's no point wasting time on it
>>27332383Had it my whole life and have never taken a prescription drug.
>>27333897>SynaesthesiaUhhhhh I've also had this all my life.. Less of a solid sense, and more of a 'feeling' of how two unrelated senses are connected Hard to put your finger on, even harder to explain>empathyOne of my most prominant traits, has been a pain in the arse for my life really lol>Lucid dreamingBeen there done that, only a handful of times thoughI hope I don't sound like a crazy person by describing this butI feel as if all three of these, plus VS, are working on a similar frequency that that's being bounced and refracted in your brain like a hall if mirrors refracting light and amplifying it This frequency feels like its gathered up at the lower back of the head where it's the heaviset, and travels and refracts through the 'underside' of your brain, emitting frequency around where your eyes are, blasting outward exponentially I can hear/feel my own frequency if I focus on itDoes this ring true to anybody?
>>27335079Yes I see the synesthesia and vs are related or asmr
>>27329462I had this for a while after I took to much hallucinogenics.
>>27329864Yeah, I'm with you on this anon. I've had VS all of my life and remember asking my mother as a child what the "small dots everywhere" are, but she didn't know what I was talking about.
>>27335583asked the same question got the same shitty mom answer “stop sitting close to the TV anon”
>>27328892How many of you wear glasses or contacts?
>>27335693LolWhat colour eyes do you guys have?My eyes are blue, and my VS is prominent >Just wanna see if there's any correlation
>>27335733I do. Had visual snow before I started to become nearsighted and glasses doesn't fix it. Might still be related, I guess. >>27335748Blue.
>>27335748My eyes are dark as fuck, never was a GATE kid, never been on any prescription meds and I have the visual snow awake+when I close my eyes I see everything in OP video.Just had a very vivid dream, which was completely impossible due to the plot, but it was about something I was worrying yesterday. Actually, sometimes when I try binaural beats it bothers me and I open my eyes because I see really bright lights (in total darkness with my eyes closed) and it makes me feel like something bright is present or someone took a photo of me with flash and I end up opening my eyes
>>27332527holy shit this is me. I stopped ssri for various reasons like you described (and I saw people-sized shadows darting around randomly).The only time I'd black out was during drinking which I have since quit. Psyches I do not seem to lose myself, but can become quite cold and sweaty at high doses.
bruh just wash ur eye lmfo
>>27334725How'd you know?
As far as I can remember I had visual snow. I thought it was normal, when I was still a child and never questioned if it was normal.Im not sure if this is connected to visual snow or something else, but when I concentrate on a single point, everything around it begins to lose detail, surface detail turn into a single color overlayed with the visual snow, which becomes more intense, and other patterns, shadows fading out.
>>27328892Anyone here have palinopsia? I've been dealing with it 24/7 for the past few years. I've had a CT scan, been to a neuro-opthamologist, etc and they can't find anything wrong. No idea what's wrong with me. Most of the time I can filter it out but sometimes I start focusing on it and it can get pretty annoying.
>>27337848There's this strange effect that I have managed to invoke few times where the whole world stays visible when you close your eyes and you can move and it stays in sync with your movements.
>>27328892This is an actual thing? I always thought it was just tied to my bad eyesight and not wearing glasses often enough.
Visual snow?Check!>>27334745I got beat up for being able to hear a phone get charged, now im 25 and can still hear the electric heater running while my dad who can literally hear a leaf falling in the forest ... cant.>>27335733me>>27335876Bluish in the center, green on the periphery, I also see snow as stated, might not be color related.>>27336641Oh god, not the shadow people. That one time i took few hits of weed and went for a walk during a dark autumn night in a eastern european large park ... and seeing that shit everywhere, brr. Im not taking weed and walking around in the dark EVER again.Also i remember that as a kid distant lights such as streetlamps could turn into a rather large fractal image if i squinted just a bit and was wild
>>27328892I never knew there is such a thing, I thought everyone sees that. I checked that video, I don't have all the symptoms, but the floaters and all the stuff he shows with closed eyes is the pretty accurate depiction of what I see. Light beams and light fading are pretty trippy, never experienced those. I guess I don't have it when my eyes open, but when I close my eyes, I can see objects, colors, things that don't exist, fucking light tunnels and some really trippy shit out can't describe. I always thought it's an "eye memory" or something, but what always worried me is that I could develop this visions into something different.
>>27328892I've got this, and I've always thought it might be my eyes detecting more than just "visible" light. I was a D&D geek as a kid, and the concept of "infravision" instantly clicked for me, because I can still discern objects and walls in very low light conditions. I secretly thought it meant I was a half-elf or something.
>>27328892I hear the static.
>>27328892Fuck :D Now I know that something is wrong with me
Tee hee bump :3c
>>27328892I have had it my whole life, when I was a child I thought they were little people running around on my eyes, and I would will them to stop and start and sometimes it worked. As an adult it is just constantly there, I thought it was normal until I noticed my light trails getting worse, then I asked around and learned it was not normal.
>>27328892Good bread. Made me look it up since ive had this shit all my life and just assumed everyone saw this if they really concentrated and found this really helpful site. Shit lays it out so perfectly, I forsure see all the floaters and little balls of light/ tiny target floating symbols in my entire range of view. It feels very close to my immediate like a wall of intelligent floating bacteria whizzing infront of my eyes, very annoying.https://visualsnowman.com/visual-snow-symptoms/
>>27328892I've also always had it and it was especially apparent as a child. I've mostly learned to tune it out now. That or mind has just gone dull. If I focused too heavily on a single point, a blob with a chain link pattern in it would appear at the center of my vision and grow larger the longer I looked at it. I drew pictures of it and showed it to my mom. She thought something was wrong with me and took me to see the doctor but he just scratched his head at it.
This fucking threadI thought I was the only one and that my eyes were fucked or people weren't observant enoughHave any of you looked up at a clear blue sky with water goggles on after having gone for a swimLooks like a blizzard of tiny little light pricks flying around erratically
>>27328892was also sure everyone sees like me. one day i just thought "theres no fucking way a human being is supposed to see static everywhere and not talk about it!" so i googled and got my answer. i also have tinnitus. if i focus on the tinnitus or visual snow i get extremely uncomfortable, but i got so used to it i can ignore it most of the time.im sorry op but we have a defective system. its not superpowers. i believe this is genetic because my mom claims to have it as well.for those who dont know, you can see static on everything. most noticeable on light patterns, such as the sky at day. imagine the entire sky as static, all possible colors as little dots running around. when i was much younger i thought maybe im seeing air particles kek. our night vision is extremely impaired, at least mine is.
>>27340077Kek that's a good way to look at it actually
>>27341980i can see these when i look at the sky. I always thought they were cells. Or some part of how the eye works. I remember asking my PE teacher about them when I was like 9 and she said it was normal.
And That’s how God gave us tv once a year
I've got visual snow but it's from drug use as a kid, I believe it's called hppd. It used to be very bad but I haven't used hallucinatory drugs in a long time so I only really notice it sometimes now. It only happens randomly every now and then sometimes.
>>27334100wtf, is there more...this is a little too accurate.
>>27335450The same here