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Is avoiding wageslavery the only way to stay spiritually a child? I was a happy child until I started working, I think I'm going back to NEET mode.
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Yes, anon. Sleeping when you are tired. Waking up when you are rested. Eating when you are hungry. That is what they want to keep wagies away from.
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I would recommend you look into a phenomenon called 'alienation' that is a byproduct of the wage system.
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I would recommend looking up a scientific anomaly named "manchild" and learn from the mistakes they made. Mommy and daddy ain't gonna be there forever nigfag
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>>26180981
Well I mean if the choice is either living in your moms basement or being a wageslave I'd take the latter any day.

I think the journey is to escape the game by winning it.
Make it on your own terms, nothing bad about owning a few beach houses and a jet
Then you can be a child all you want, but you gotta win first.

ARE YOU A WINNER OR A LOSER BOBBY?
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>>26181116
I kinda do that as much as possible as a dev working from home.
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>>26180981
problem is toxic people you work with, like old women, self absorbed narcissists, they define mood, very depressing. cope with music in headphones.
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>>26180981
The same work it used to take to get a job you can put into making money online. Wagecuckery is avoidable more now than ever.
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What’s wrong with growing up anon? The longer you live in fantasy land the worse it’s gunna be for you when you actually have to grow up.
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>>26181818
This. People keeps asking /g/ about what tech project would look good in their cv to get them hired into some shitty job despite being while cis males, and I'm like "why don't you guys just do a project to make money?"
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>>26181453
sensitive individuals throughout history have always resisted getting swallowed by the machine. usually the machine utilizes useful cuckbots like you to shame non-compliants back into the "real world" where men work 40+ hours a week to watch eat, shit, and sleep. b-but that's the way it's always been, that's life, y-you need to just grow up already! why do we need all this extra bullshit on top of it then lol (oh, I know why, so your masters can catabolize the earth)
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>>26181785
>if you can't beat 'em, join 'em

kek this is what every shitwit mongoloid and his hustler friends are already trying to do.
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>>26180981
that looks like a crazy person climbing someone's fence and a police officer about to drag him away to a mental asylum.
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>>26182415
This.
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>>26182357
thats the thing though, how in the world would a project you do on the internet make you money?
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>>26182694
Sell ad space and merch and patreon and Kickstarter and streaming and social media presence and recruit salesmen and go to retail suppliers and organize meetings and make a brand and turn it into a franchise and make a movie and action figures and buy a manufacturing plant and make a corporation and sell it
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>>26182745
that sounds scary.
but i do kinda agree with you
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https://discord.gg/Ev4bqn

guys join this discord for a bunch of x related discussion
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>>26182415
based post
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>>26182415
Came to /x/ just to dunk on wagies but you guys got it covered, good going.
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>>26182786
It's a long way to the top of you want to rock and roll.
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>>26182889
im not that interested in the top. But I am interested in a way to make an average wage online
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>>26181453
What about the fact that wage labor doesn't pay a high enough wage to actually move out of the basement? Kinda weird huh?
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>>26180981
Unironically yes. I am not a kid at all anymore, not by a long shot. But I have the same boundless energy. Never worked a day in my life, didn't have to thanks to bitcoin money. People wonder how the fuck I am this spry, and workout every day yet still bounce and fly around like a 10 year old. Like, just not work and play all day. Same with magic too, enjoy your rituals and practice, treat it a bit like play, and it just works. Work is death, society is death. I would have turned to crime outright rather than work if I wasn't financially stable, I don't understand how anyone does it. Had a taste of it in uni, and it wasn't even full hours, but still hell to me. Also i swear it keeps you younger, people 5 years younger than me look 10 years older than me because of wagecucking.
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>>26180981
just got done being a NEET for a long time. meditating all day can make you go crazy desu. the DMT release is worth it though
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>ability to constructively direct your life force where you please hampered in it being leeched away by a society slowly feeding you into a woodchipper toes first

Yes. Earnest spirituality and partaking in the rat race are completely mutually exclusive. Tough pill.

Turn on, tune in, drop out.
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>>26181826
>wagie is reality
supreme lol
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>>26180981
Wage cuckoldry takes up (presumably) 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 to 6 days a week. There are objectively 24 hours in a day, 8 to 10 of which should be used for deep sleep (not merely "resting"). In america, the demands of wage masters do not permit afternoon naps, which would be ideal for mammals, but seeing as wage cucks are lower than animals, this has been disallowed. Given this basic outline, the average wage cuckold has roughly 6 to 8 hours a day, 5 to 6 days a week in which he or she is not cuckin' it. It is up to them to decide the way in which these hours are spent. How much time is put into the daily cuck commute can be subtracted. Shopping and meal prep as well.
Now given all of this, it is pertanent that "free" time be managed in accordance with need. Shopping, meal prep, and other general obligations can be done on "days off" up to a week in advance. In the end, each individual has roughly 3 or 4 hours a day all to themselves, and this is almost always spent being a willing candidate to indoctrination through "entertainment". This "entertainment" is through "media" outlets. "Smart phones", "television", "Streaming services", "social media", ect are all paltry sources of distraction. Are you spending your time on the internet wisely? Are you doing legitimate research? The chances are that you aren't. Every word I type in this tldr is a waste of my time and a distraction from the Great Work, my Magnum Opis. Keep this all in mind. Take in only that which makes you stronger. Stop masturbating. Stop being entertained. Browse /lit/ for recommendations on western philosophy. Don't even think about the paranormal or modern conspiracies until you've studied the classics. Brush up on arithmetic and geometry. Get a gym membership. Study and practice diet and exercise. Lean to meditate by a trained professional. You can do all of this in those few "free" hours of the day.
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>>26181453
And?
Literally being homeless is better than being a wagie
Or he could just kill your bitch ass and squat in your home till they turn off the water and use your cotting corpse as a foot stool
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>>26185009
based clownpee
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>>26185247
>a bunch of commie trash
kekekeke
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>>26185307
It's more post modern than communist
A real communist would just say if you like work so much you can work for the both of us in a fucking death camp sucker
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>>26180981
Neet here, jaded depressed adult, not a child spiritually or otherwise.
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>you are going to one day die

memento mori cures slavery btw
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>>26185307
>"S-self improvement is communism!!!"
Whatever you want to believe to validate your porn addiction, fucking nigger.
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>>26185389
It makes the fatal mistake in not distinguishing "wage cuckholdry" from "having a job and being an adult with self control instead of leaving your responsibilities behind to masturbate all day while leaving just enough time to get to work"
You can promote self-improvement and self-wellness without making it a systemic issue that absolves the individual of any responsibility
>aaaaa I'm a degenerate because society and not because of any lacking strength of character
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Wage slaving will teach you perseverance. Don't blame the universe nor the people who may seem to be the cause of your hand of cards. You have to play what you got like you got a royal flush all of the time. You could be quadriplegic and the universe would still ask you to run an olympic mile. Giving up is entirely your choice, but the Universe will reward you for doing, even if you are losing, simply because you are doing rather than doing nothing.
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>>26185423
>slow, necessary numbing of yourself = perseverance

no, anon, that's just getting used to being cattle. there is nothing at all noble about it.
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>>26185423
>will reward you
With more bullshit job, cos apparently you love to work.
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>>26181801
Based covid-dev. I'm trying to fully get into this new lifestyle myself.
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>>26185418
It might just be me, but something tells me that the great minds of antiquity didn't spend a majority of their day flipping burgers, weighting tables, serving the banal materialist desires of npc sleeper cells. I don't give a rats ass about any "revolution" or even a mere reformation of the "system". I'm leaving any and all improvement for the individual trapped within it. We're saying the same damn thing but we obviously have a disagreement on weather or not "wages" are subjectively "good" or "bad". What makes a wage cuck a wage cuck is their innate incapability of building an inner life which frees them from the drudgery of material routine.
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>>26182745
That sounds like a lotta work
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Death is preferable to slavery.

There is nothing to fear and never has been.
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>>26185009
>Same with magic too, enjoy your rituals and practice, treat it a bit like play, and it just works.
Only if it chaos magic, if not its "death" in the end too.
>Work is death, society is death.
Saturn is not god of death in literal sense, but spiritual one, degradation if you want.
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>>26185629
based
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>>26185629
Ever heard of the enslaved dead ??
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>>26180981
Join a monastery
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>>26185418
>It makes the fatal mistake in not distinguishing "wage cuckholdry" from "having a job and being an adult with self control instead of leaving your responsibilities behind to masturbate all day while leaving just enough time to get to work"
Cope harder, beta cuckold.
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>>26185418
>muh responsibility

>I'm a degenerate because society
Correct, because its degenerate.
>and not because of any lacking strength of character
You don't have it, you are fucking cuckold.
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>>26182415
based and enlightened anon
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self control =/= forcing yourself out of needed sleep every morning at the behest of a fucking alarm clock to carry out activities you're basically being forced into at threat of poverty and death btw

just submission, a zogged enough side of looshcattle probably wouldn't see such distinctions though. Truly lower than an animal.
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>>26185247
Thanks anon, your words are fuel
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I wonder how OP imagine living with zero money in modern society? Have any idea how to live without wealth? Maybe if you guys dont want to be wagiecuck how about becoming a farmer? Living in ruler area growing your own food making profit from thing you made or grow. No? Well maybe you just dont want having job and live in mom basement forever (or until your poor parents die out)?
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Find a career you enjoy and gives you the motivation to aim higher etc. The end goal is early retirement or setting something up so the money comes in like a machine.
You can live like a hobo for the rest of your life... You couldve been born a trust fund kid..
People like to make arguments for the necessity of work as part of the human condition. That is total bullshit. We only work for money, a comfortable survival. If we didnt have to work we would be doing other activities for 6-8 hours of the day, not eating grapes and drinking wine.
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>>26185247
>wage slavery leaves an individual with no time to pursue anything greater
>"Browse /lit/ for recommendations on western philosophy. Don't even think about the paranormal or modern conspiracies until you've studied the classics. Brush up on arithmetic and geometry. Get a gym membership. Study and practice diet and exercise. Lean to meditate by a trained professional. You can do all of this in those few "free" hours of the day."
what
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>>26184929
That depends on where you live.
I work for minimum wage and rent my own apartment .
It's not the best but it's a start.
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>>26182745
this is all marketing. what’s the actual product?
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>>26185307
wtf i'm a communist now
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>>26180981
What makes wageslavery bad is literally that- being enslaved to a wage.

If you have an ultimate goal behind your work other than make money the wageslavery takes a different from and becomes instead a means to and end.

I work to give in charity.
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>>26185247
Don't blame wagies for surrendering to mindless entertainment. In those 3 or 4 hours, the wagie is so drained, so exausted, ge literally can't grok the philosophy classics. All he can do is rest with media to get ready for the next day.
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>>26180981
Loaded Diaper is a sucky band , also fuck you Manny !
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>>26187389
>he thinks he needs a product
Also, see >>>/g/77759584
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Covid has my mom realizing how shitty work was and wanting to get UBI. Hopefully society as a whole learns from this experience.
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>>26185418
I've busted my back for years. The money isnt worth the depression. I'd rather be poor and happy then rich and miserable.
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>>26180981
>Be slave
>Work a job you don't want to and get food, water, and shelter in return
>You're a slave
>Be wagie
>Work a job you don't want to get paid a wage that you then immediately turn over for food, water, and shelter which is just about covered by your wage
>You are free

It's just a coincidence bro. 15 hour work weeks are right around the corner dude haha.
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>>26185307
>i posted the same meme thats been posted for 10 years
>i have won le argument
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>>26180981

I was happy until other people started claiming to be my parents and family.

....love me or else!

Wtf am I suppose to do?
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>>26185423
You are a victim of the post war construction of meritocracy.
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>>26180981
In short- yes.
Get off the plantation
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>>26181453

Real men are supposed to be like that. Knuckle dragging cumbrains are some genetic experiment gone wrong. God is like a child, so his creations would be also. I think the animals are like this. Maturity is some kind of curse.
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>>26190904
Based.
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>>26180981
Hope you enjoy homelessness.
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>>26190788
ok communist
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>>26182415
My man
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"Aging" is a descision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4b9CTK7Eo
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>>26182415
Reminder that anyone saying "grow up" is saying something like "adhere to the established system"

You can have your own relationship with reality. Define it how you like.
Towers rise and towers fall, and it will always happen that way.
The minute one starts to rise is the minute it begins it path to collapse.
Generally the antidote to the aspects it repressed will be that which is next to arise.
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>>26186541
>leaves an individual with no time-
Unless you're spending the entire 24 hours of a day at your pace of work then you have spare time. Stop not reading books.
>>26188469
>the wagie is so drained, so exausted
Work on your diet and exercise. Performing menial tasks isn't physically exhausting, it's mentally taxing. mental capability can be highly enhanced through diet - stop consuming processed and refined sugars, alcohol, saturated fats, and drink more water - and exercise, work on cardio (walking around at work is not cardio, counting steps on a telephone application is not cardio), lift weights, learn Hatha Yoga and meditation. I am myself a wagie and from following the advice that I'm giving here I have 100% more energy than my subhuman coworkers, who spend there "off time" consuming alcoholic beverages, and sitting on a cough masturbating because they're so "tired" all the time.

Again, i'm not saying wagecuckery is the ideal situation, but it certainly isn't a death sentence. I use the overall dissatisfaction to fuel my physical, emotional, mental and spiritual growth.
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>>26186523
This
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>>26190988
This
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There is this awful system where we are forced to compete against each other constantly, dissenters are ridiculed mostly by their own people who have been conditioned into thinking that way since their childhood.
But also by politicians and state figureheads who live off the cream and perform barely any work themselves and control 80% of all wealth.

We chose to live like this, simply because we accept it.
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>>26191278
Based and realpilled
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>>26180981
It's not working in general that's bad, it's working a soul-sucking job you hate just to survive on your own with nobody's help (the Amerimutt Dream (tm)). I work a part-time mom&pop job to have extra money for hobbies and live at home at 29 but feel much younger and been told I look 8 years younger by others.

I also think part of it's more like >>26181808 said about toxic people like you typically have at most corporate workplaces making your life a living hell, not work in general itself.
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>>26180981
Working breaks your inner child and breaks your spirit and robs you of your awareness. We would truly be free spirits and freemen in true peace and happiness had the freeman not been made a heathen. The Atlantian concept of an singular nation and freeland would have been the most ideal however the Europeans had a different vision when they came to Earth and murdered or enslaved the beautiful people that once were.
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>>26191278
Yes, brother!

What the fuck is up with the modern meme that the right wing is the way to go for the regular wagecuck and that the left wing is elitist? Am I taking crazy pills?
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>>26191278
you know, i really fucking hate being alive
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>>26191818
Same. Though it has its moments. I don't feel like most humans are made for the workforce. I mean I always thought that everybody knew that caring about your workplace was a pretend meme, but people actually expect you to care about the bottom line of some company? Kek. And then there are bootlickers who -actually care- about a conglomorate that makes profits off their labor? Kekekekek
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>>26180981
Why does being alienated from my own labor, time and being make me feel bad. Idk man that’s so crazy. Why would being forced into a mechanical, cash based existence be soul crushing?
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>>26185261
Hmmmm thats a tough one. Homeless dont usually mantain a pure spirit after all so I guess is more about the following:
Do you CONSUME your mental health and let your spiritual wither harshly for THE CHANCE to stay physicaly healthy
OR
do you keep your mind in tranquility and (dangerous) idleness in exchange for higiene decay and the risk of physical harm or even death in extreme cases by some random strangers with no chance to own material distractions such as cellphones or tvs etc.

Consider the following:
>Body, Mind and Spirit are a trinity interconnected, where one lacks the others suffer
>Waging will surely make you meet some people with varying degrees of some certain types of people, while homeless you may meet ll types of people but they already have a bad impressionof you and it depends on how outgoing you are
>Being a wagie is a rollercoaster of stress, being hobo is a looooong walk alone of depression
>You could mantain your health while waging by purchasing moostly (90%) healthy food and that also involves cooking which consumes even more time,but it requires an incredibly strong will
>Also you most certainly can't have enough energy/time to work out
>Similarly, you could do free exercises while being a hobo, but you also would need an incredible determination
>also the lack of hygiene will still chip away your health

>low to no social life on both, but still depends on the life-type circle
>you are constantly looking to radically change in one day to another.
>But while waging, the routines stop you from doing so.
>While a hobo, your "comodity" (aka lazyness+acceptance of your situacion of rock bottom) stops you from sparking sudden change.

There are more but I certainly let myself loose enough already, this is not even what this thread is about lol, but I think its a very interesting debate topic
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>>26180981
The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save – the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour – your capital. The less you are, the less you express your own life, the more you have, i.e., the greater is your alienated life, the greater is the store of your estranged being. Everything which the political economist takes from you in life and in humanity, he replaces for you in money and in wealth.
We live in a world where 'child-like" things are purposefully taken from us so we can be more productive. The less you do what you enjoy, the more money your bosses can make off of you. The more money they make, the easier it is for them to tailor your experiences in the world. It's a vicious cycle.
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>>26192912
damn what a post
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>>26182415
>sensitive individuals
Whhat did he mean by this? Sensitive in what way? emotionally.. spiritually?

I for one feel a greater purpose in my soul to chase and achieve.. can't accomplish that being a cog in the system.. Have to win it as anon said earlier and set up your life.
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>>26192912
>The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house
To be fair, this is the society of the spectacle. You are better not participating in it.
>>26185247
>but seeing as wage cucks are lower than animals
Lol. They are. Animals seems to have more freedom. This is the price the wagie has to pay, in order to afford his nice new car. This is what happens when you prioritize having over being.
>>26185247
>Don't even think about the paranormal or modern conspiracies until you've studied the classics.
Good advice. I'm trying to apply it to myself currently. Indeed, reading about gnosis or various non mainstream subjects are fun, but are they more important than philosophers like Hegel? I don't think so. If you skip on the classics, you are still missing a lot.
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>>26180981
You could always drive the car your parents pay for off a cliff
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>>26190904
>Maturity
Yeah. why are sinful, gore filled, sexually deviant movies always considered "mature" when they're things that people are warned to stay away from. At the same time many children's movies are pure and teach good morals but are called immature and that's somehow bad. So warped
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>>26181116
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>>26194627
Dancing, reading, and theatre aren't necessarily part of the 'spectacle'. Those forms of expressions become 'spectacle' when all other context is removed, when the thing exists to be a meaningless 'cash cow' as it were.
The way I see it Marvel movies are spectacle (overtly meaningless, play on appearances and the need to see the next marvel movie), but if my neighbor writes a screenplay because they love movies and want to tell a good story 'spectacle' doesn't really apply.
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>>26194762
based. Adults kill and eat something inside themselves to become adults.
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>>26180981
>I was a happy child until I started working
Huh. I was a happy child until I hit puberty.
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>>26181785
You don't actually have to win that hard to escape the game. Also you don't necessarily have to play the game to win, there a shitload of loopholes out there to fall into.
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>>26182415
Wageslaves don't own shit and work for child raping pedos. The jews can't compete with white iq so they force us down. Get a skill and make money online or do /biz/ if you need it, but NEETs have better and more fulfilling lives and they know that.
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>>26194627
>This is what happens when you prioritize having over being.
Bro have you been watching Vervaeke?
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>>26180981
atheists are people that never grow out of their "fuck you dad I'll skateboard in the house if I want to" phase

they'll realize their ignorance doesn't pay off when they're burning for 100,000,000,000 years
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>>26182415
>>26182490
>>26182840
>>26186026


I came here to rep that good good but everybodies already doing it.

I'm glad.
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>>26191803
The left wing is merely just the otherside of the same coin. Instead of wagecucking for a company your cucking for the government. Equality is a farce and Liberty needs to be pursued instead.
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>>26190011
universal basic income is the future idc what anyone says
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>most self employment is becoming impossible
This propaganda may have some elements of truth.
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>>26195619
This, liberty and equality are not compatible
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>>26195497
Same. My thought process changed extremely during puberty, uncertainty became the dream killer.
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>>26182415

And rightfully so.
My wage friends are frustrated as fuck but I understand that most people want stability and "peace of mind" so they give in.
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>>26185009

Sounds like a melody.
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>>26180981
>Is avoiding wageslavery the only way to stay spiritually a child?
If you're losing your vitality over a day job, you need to organize your time and resources a lot better.
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>>26185247

Well put.
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>>26192912

Exactly.
All unnecessary shit has been destined to must haves while many things that fill us with joy are branded childish, dangerous or unethical.
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"He only warns his freedom and his life who takes them every day by storm" - Goethe
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>>26185247

you can try to do this, but it's unsustainable -- for most people cuckin' it, the entertainment you're putting down is literally the only thing keeping them from going insane due to the stress of their lives. you might be able to get rid of it for a few days, a few weeks, but ultimately, the stress will catch up to you.

you have to be a bit more clever than just making unrealistic demands of yourself. recognize what your actual, not imagined/ideal needs are (do you actually have a deep need to read western philosophy, or do you just have a need to not feel insecure about your intelligence?), and work toward meeting those in incremental steps. once you're effectively taking care of yourself, then you can start thinking about serious self-improvement.
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I don't want to be a wage anymore
I want life experience
I have some savings that I want to use for travel but I don't know if it's really worth it...
I just want to live a fulfilling life, not on autopilot, working, sleeping, working, sleeping
I feel so stuck.
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>>26181453
Mommy and daddy won’t, but the state will.
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>>26194762
One of the first things kids learn is sharing, one of the first things adults drop is sharing.
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>>26190988
>Reminder that anyone saying "grow up" is saying something like "adhere to the established system"

They are saying "we have to suffer so why shouldn't you?"
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anything over 20 hours a week is actually wage slavery
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people would rather be mad at the the recipients rather than the government who made the fucking programs in the first place
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FOLLOW YOUR HEART AND WORK ON YOUR PASSIONS.
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>>26180981
Grade school is way more oppressive then a job. If you can survive that, a 9 to 5 is nothing
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>>26197309
Whats the problem with neeting? Its basically the ultra rich without money. You work for both
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>ARE YOU A WINNER OR A LOSER BOBBY?
The control attempt was already obvious before the all-caps.
Are you one of those kids-grown-up who has PTSD and still says "safety" every time they fart to avoid getting hit?
Because that's the sort of behavior you're describing. The game's dumb, whoever made it is an asshole, but everyone you know is playing and you're too much of a cuck to walk away and find new friends.
Stop projecting and no you can't sit at my table. You're a loser, nobody wants to hang out with you, go eat in the toilet stall like usual.
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>>26185418
>"having a job and being an adult with self control instead of leaving your responsibilities behind to masturbate all day while leaving just enough time to get to work"
This was way too specific of an example not to be drawn from personal experience.
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>>26185423
>the Universe will reward you for doing, even if you are losing, simply because you are doing rather than doing nothing.
Your post was trash, but it was a small bin so I went looking and found a diamond. I'll treasure it.
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>>26185009
You're Australian aren't you?

[spoiler] So am I lol \[spoiler]
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>>26195588
No. Checked his channel, can't be bad, but he doesn't seem to include the critique of Capitalism in his discourse.
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>>26197196
That's sad. I feel for you.
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>>26182745
Lol. aye it's so simple. Bada bing. Gimme dat gabagool, just gotta become a tik-tok star. God damn they really got to the Zoomers good with this internet millionaire bullshit.
That's why so many of them are shooting up the public. Instant celebrity over night but even easier.
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>>26197196
Only hope for you is FIRE.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financial-independence-retire-early-fire.asp
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>>26185389
Why do these glowie shills say nigger so much lol. Your average anon hasn't been calling everyone else a nig since like 2013 breh.
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Like almost no one in this thread seems to know what wageslavery even is. It's not a career or a position with upward mobility. A wage slave makes within a couple dollars of minimum wage with no realistic chance of increasing pay over time.
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>>26185247
>do self improvement
>adhd kicks in
>burn out
Hoping for mad max world I’m over this meme life
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>>26198617
Close.
Half the thread knows.
The other half is in a position with upward trajectory and STILL feels like a slave, so this thread triggers them.
Reminder that "trigger" as a meme comes from PTSD, where a "trigger" is something that reminds someone of trauma.
The butthurt wagies (who aren't even what we mean by wagies) are having flashbacks to their last day in the office every time you call them a cuck. It's not you, it's them. Their emotions are that fragile.
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>>26198712
Damn this right here really fits.
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I've been out of my parents house for years now, and out of college for longer. I would do almost anything to go back to how it was. But we are not meant to do this.

We are meant to do the Lord's work in this world. And this is difficult. There are many times I've wished I was in my childhood bed, that I could still buy a brand new video game and play it regularly for three years without getting tired of it, that my childhood dog was still alive, that I was still at community College.

Find a meaning in life and pursue it. no "tech startups", no offices.
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>>26198583
Because reddit took over. 9fag army out. Fuck you nigger.
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I have time for work. I have time for school. I have time to cook for myself. I have time to praise God. If you don't have time, it's because you have poor time management, and you aren't negotiating with your boss.
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How do you become a neet if you don't have parents to live with?
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>>26199396
mooch off your bf
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>>26199522
>tfw no strong masculine bf to take care of me
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>>26199396
Work long enough to attain ei. Go on ei. Ez
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>>26199536
My nigga
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Work is bad because even though we don't work in dirty noisy factories in the west a majority still hate to have to do it.

humans were meant to live in small tribal groups, society is an angry mess
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>>26199548
>humans were meant to live in small tribal groups, society is an angry mess
Yes, totally. See Pierre Clastres.
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>>26197241
maybe if you're in a small, wealthy country

if you're in the US you are fucked
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>>26199566
Err nope, state just paid 2 months of my rent
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>>26199563
I just see tribal people on TV like rainforest indians, they look happy, they smile, they aren't stuffed to the brim with antidepressants to keep them going day to day and not hanging themselves.
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>>26199589
Alienation came with the neolithic revolution.
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>>26199581
How? SSDI?
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>>26180981
>ITT
>bunch of miserable faggots give out useless advice on how to be happy, despite actually being miserable working class slaves
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>>26198583
>Your average anon hasn't been calling everyone else a nig since like 2013
Get fucked newfag.
>>26197159
>literally the only thing keeping them from going insane
Bread and circuses for the profane. Wisdom for the wise.
>unrealistic demands
Choosing to not be indoctrinated by 20th/21st century media is not unreasonable in any way. Taking time each day to reflect is not unreasonable.
>once you're effectively taking care of yourself, then you can start thinking about serious self-improvement.
Self improvement IS taking care of yourself. Stagnation is death.
>>26198678
>adhd
Meditation, nofap, martial arts, diet, and exercise all help improve attention. ADHD is a first world problem perpetuated by lack of motivation and character.
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>>26200097
Show philosophy books with time stamp
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>>26199920
>Miserable faggot calls his mindful superiors miserable faggots
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>>26199920
being happy is as simple as being to an integrated enough person you fucking dope

literally wandering off into the mountains and stomaching what comes is preferable to subsisting in human society right now. death is beyond trifle in the face of a lifetime of submission.

you know this at your root, heart, and soul and yet accept what's being foisted and presented as 'right' or 'normal'

why? cowardice.

Stop being a fucking coward, put your feet in the dirt and say what you want because you might well get it. The universe is basically helpless to the impulse to jill itself vigorously in the face of courage.
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>>26200169
>The universe is basically helpless to the impulse to jill itself vigorously in the face of courage.
True
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>>26200169
>you cant be happy if you don't integrate sheeple
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>>26180981
True enlightenment occurs when you can work a job and be entirely unaffected by any parts of it considered stultifying - still having enough energy to do what you love, and being a joy to all you encounter.

Spiritual evolution is realizing station in life doesn't matter one iota. It's all in your state of mind.
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>>26201218
In the time it took you to write this you probably didn't make 1000$
But sure bro
All the same, ent'it?
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>>26201247
I don't really care about money... But I also don't have any want for it. I no longer work, and live entirely off investments made with money from working.
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>>26201269
Then you really care about money, right?
Cause you cared enough to get some.
If you didn't care then you wouldn't have any.
So, I'm sorry but that means you're full of shit.
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>ITT: Ego-centric 20-somethings who think they're above everyone around them and their retail job
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>>26201290
You don't really get the point and you never really will. Grow up some, ya?
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>>26200097
>ADHD is a first world problem perpetuated by lack of motivation and character.

Its all the vaccines and EMF radiation, it fries young brains.
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>>26201312
Sit the fuck down.
You said station doesn't matter since enlightenment comes from working without being affected by it.
But station does matter. It is everything. There are people that make more money than you will ever see. As a consequence they own great power.
So, you're wrong. Because I challenge your belief that one should plod along until they fall over no matter what. Cause they will fall, they do all the time.
And your defense was that money, basically our station, was something immaterial when you yourself have plenty.
Save it.
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>>26201269
you were forced to take part even though you didn't really care to.
if you have escaped best wishes to you.
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>>26195569

HR hates me for being a neet, but they struck first, and struck often. I am right to turn my back on their evil system. No coincidence that the world started going to shit after the peshwari era. They are not the only system.
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>>26201368
Easy retirement is entirely the product of the system in place. If the world went "all natural" and did away with everything in an anarchistic fashion, people would inevitably struggle until the day they die. It would be a struggle to survive instead of for luxury, though.
Honestly, if someone is exhausted by a day job to the point of crying slavery, they should examine their personal habits.

When I worked, I had no want for money either. Saving and having simple tastes were entirely the culprit. I could take vacations whenever I wanted on minimum wage, and didn't suffer for it.
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>>26201362
Why don't you want to become an antenna anon?
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>>26201511

They won't pay me, they just want me for my body.
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>>26201486
>I could take vacations whenever I wanted on minimum wage

In what country?
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>>26201575
'Murrica
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>>26201575
>>26201613
To add, I never had pointless habits like smoking/vaping, video games, etc. They're just money sinks that keep you from saving.
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>>26201613
You get paid holidays in there, or you just take days off whenever you wanted?

>>26201624
What meaningful habits did you have instead of saving and working?
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>>26201564
>They won't pay me, they just want me for my body.
Stop talking like a whore.
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I mean you could work WITH children. Kids need positive role models, especially guy role models. I find working with my kindergarteners keeps me generally happy-go-lucky seeing their brains grow and understanding things
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Being a neet gets depressing and the older you get the more you realize you should probably just work hard and be willing to make sacrifices it pays off fucking off leads to doom
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>>26201852
I get my satisfaction from my hobbies and working hard to build up my own wealth, not some bigwig's.
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>>26201887
As long as it feels fulfilling and you are self directed is all that matters. It’s all about what’s inside.
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For me personally I think my “fuck the man fuck materialism I’m an artist 100% starving crazy output all the time woo” phase went past its peak a little bit and I forgot to smell the roses, I was always basically using this unattainable teenage techno rockstar goal as a crutch to never grow up. I started gaining weight, totally stagnating, blew up at my girlfriend who left me, got cancelled on social
media for the gayest fakest bluepill shit ever etc etc now I’m working out all the time finishing up college and just trying to be centered in what I have. Idk for me I used neetdom in the wrong way, so I thought I would share me tale as why for me I need to aspire to wagie just a way to show I’m grow up. Doesn’t mean gonna be a soulless sellout really because my
Spiritual wealth is so high already almost overflowing gotta ground that shit
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I cannot abide in the time leeching. This life is mine to live as I please, independent of the desires of parents or society. It belongs to no one but me. The consequences of my choices are similarly entirely mine to bear but I must admit at this moment I am a comf cat and the horizon appears startlingly clear despite global circumstance.

NOTHING of material accumulation will be brought with you when the time comes. The inevitability of death casts a pretty infantile light on the entire matter of material possession and effort to so much as keep one's head above the water. Why bother? It's all for naught. Might as well spend your whole life dedicated to inner work. There is nothing permanent in this plane.

We are only not animals insofar as we rise above the futile struggling against nature and death and look reality in the face, and reality is impermanence. Radical, constant flux.

Put your back against a wall and fight from there. The wall you should probably put yourself to is death itself. It is immutable, infinitely powerful and the greatest ally you could conceive of if you were only to accept it as such as opposed to avoiding the matter or otherwise.

YOU EITHER MAKE A FRIEND OF DEATH OR IT IS YOUR ENEMY AND AS AN ENEMY YOU CANNOT EVER HOPE TO OVERCOME IT

So what is one to do?
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I wageslave 40 hours and go to college 3/4th time and I still have time for my hobbies and interests.
get good faggot lol
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>>26185247
>do all these things to be and know everything
Lol, or just kill yourself.
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>>26192912
>The less you eat, drink and buy books; the less you go to the theatre, the dance hall, the public house; the less you think, love, theorise, sing, paint, fence, etc., the more you save...
Thanks for this. Couldn’t have said it better
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>>26191793
What
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Having a job would be fine if it didnt include women. Either separate women and men or no women at all. Women are the problem its not the having less time. Nowadays its all on the hands of women because they can do whatever and the judicial system or superiors (because of justice too) will always lean on their side. Men have to revolve or suicide massively but none of those things will happen sadly because its filled with simps, white knights, fags, retards, etc.
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>>26205857
Ask how many fucks I give about the gender of any of this people in general.
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>>26205876
Who gives a fuck about you dumbass?
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>>26197288
bro im gonna be working 40 hour workweek soon with the potential of a one day weekend i already wanna kms
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https://youtu.be/1xYcyI2Cbls
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>>26205857
Look men haven't got it easy, obviously that's true but if you think for a second that women have it easier think again. 9/10 all a woman is trying to do is get you to own up to your shit and be shown the basic respect of not being expected to cleanup after it whilst being called crazy for even acknowledging you have any.
1/5 girls are raped by age 15. The suicide rate of men is huge. The attempted suicide rate of women is ten times higher. For every man with a drug addiction looking for emergency housing, there's four women, some with children, waiting to get it in response to DV. And not getting it. Ever walked into emergency housing with a mom and baby and asked them to house these people running from a violent offender only to be told the wait was 14 years?
Men die from violence everyday. Caused by other men. Women die from violence everyday caused by other men.
Men put each other down, call each other skirts if they're not violent, insulting women and men alike and perpetuating violent behaviour.
They make unwanted advances to women, you just sit there minding your own business and someone flirts with you. If you're in real danger, no one is around, but if you're fine someone flirts with you.
Women aren't seen as people by men, people with rights including the rights to just be themselves and just be left alone.
Decades are spent cleaning up after their crap
You know that kid t h at saw their dad try to kill their mum as a baby? He's long gone right? Well the trauma remains for everyone. And the consequences
But apparently women have no cause to be upset. Maybe later in that example better decisions could have been made but hey if you're too busy running from violence or don't have money for a house you probably won't get counselling.
Now men they go through that too, there are some nasty women in this world also, but for every female killer and rapist there's 10 male killers and rapists. And for every male suicide there's 10 female attempts.
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>>26203332

>having 2-3 hours free time per day is OK.

Says the slave
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>>26181785
You are the only person you are fighting

Do you understand what it means if you feel you are loosing that fight?
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>>26186472
Your fears are yours alone anon.

Do not seek others who will share in them with you.
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>>26180981
How exactly do you maintain that lifestyle and I am not judging, anon, am merely asking,
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>>26206013
An intelligent, succinct post on 4chan, and I haven't even set out to go mushy picking yet .
Thank you, anon, Respect.
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>>26206225
and art thou one of those aforementioned children suckling of the teat on "neetbux" , or a trustafarian.

either way, a parasitic lifestyle.
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>>26199920
You will never be happy as long as you carry that chip on your shoulder
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>>26201983
This is the biggest cope I have ever read. Go back to twitter please.
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>>26201983
Dear God you're a fucking douchebag twerp
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>>26203332
You're lying to yourself anon

You are not fooling us
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You cannot serve both God and money.
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>CAN ANYONE ANSWER, PLEASE ,
> AS TO THE SOURCE OF THE MONEY
> THAT THEY, AS "NEETS" , LIVE OFF I AM CURIOUS
thank you.
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>>26201624
So what did you do to entertain yourself? I can guarantee that you deprived yourself of something you enjoyed in the name of saving. It may not have been smoking or video games, but there was/is something that you really want but you can’t have because you work minimum wage. There’s the fault.
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>>26185009
> Also i swear it keeps you younger, people 5 years younger than me look 10 years older than me because of wagecucking.

I noticed this also, I'm 30 and most people think I'm late teens or early 30s still. Meanwhile I met a 25 year old recently who worked since he was 17 and I thought he was in his 40s or 50s.
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>>26181453
>Wagecuck cope.
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>>26206610
>>26206317
Ends up being 5 to 6 but okay.
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>>26206013
Who gives a fuck about attempts? It's just a cry for attention.
>1/5 women are raped by the age of 15
Where did you get this from? Do you know how much 1/5 is? I smell horseshit. Probably just case of women having sex with a guy but deciding she didn't want to later and says it's rape
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>>26207556
Also
>boohoo men hit on us
Oh, how terrible. I wish people hit on me. I girls hit on me so they could marry me so I could stay home and live off of them without working
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>>26185247

Based wizard

God bless the /x wizards
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>>26207556
Not women, girls. Read the age. It's a statistic verified by researchers across the globe and is an average.
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>>26207591
Okay then. Be hit on when you don't want to and it's inappropriate.
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>>26185247
Poor choices. Even poor problem solution theory. You imply any of these will help you reach a final goal of nonsense. There is no destination and I am no masochist till then.

Might aswell look for aliens or learn a instrument, they are all as equal life solutions as studying maths this guy wants you to do.

Lol next he will say not just no masturbation no sex with women, or going places, or doing things - sounds alot like the world we live in now somehow.
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>>26190977
ngl I would pound that 90yo hoe untill she forget where she put her teeth
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>>26198712
Kek
This entire thread is reddit levels of coping by neets. Dawg you ain't the next Democritos or Giordano bruno by spending your day on a bhutanese carpet forum. If anything you are becoming a slave to tptb by getting a ubi or by abusing your family for support while you have the means of doing it on your own
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>>26208638
Neither are you so shut the fuck up and get back to work
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I make 35k a year and I have my own apartment. My job is a religion teacher. I’m teaching students regardless of faith to connect to the spiritual world. We read the Bible, vedas and do Buddhist meditation. I also talk to them about making good life choices like staying away from drugs, drinking, crime and having children out of marriage. It’s at a kinda inner city school, but my students respectful and chill. I work from 8am to 1230 or till 2 on some days. Most of the time it’s just five hours of work, just reading and talking about the Creator and spiritual nature of reality. Am I a wage slave? Yeah sure. I’ve got student debt and medical debt but I find my job rewarding even if it’s low pay because it’s super low stress.
Mentally, I know I need to work. I need to go and do something everyday. If this makes me a wagie then so be it. At least I find meaning and it’s at times rewarding. Any other teachers here?
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>>26208638
It's one thing to give up more than 50% of your free waking hours to do detestable tasks on someone else's schedule with people you'd never choose to spend time with, if the choice were actually yours to make. Some people have to. Some people want to. But internalize this setup to such a degree that you call it good and shame others for not doing it is deeply immoral.
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>>26199920
>He fell for the "be happy" meme
Some people have no chance do they.
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>>26206013
We get it nigger, women are genetically weaker and more pathetic than men. Thus its men's obligation to protect them thus in general giving them easier lives.
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>>26208727
Not a teacher but what you do is good. If nobody else tells you, I’ll tell you thank-you for what you do.
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>>26209029
Unironically, it means a lot. Thanks.
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>>26190988
Have you ever considered that when you're told to "grow up", it means for you to stop being immature?

oh, but, everyone else is the problem, not you, right?
All those foolish people who are worth something, the ones who are having sex with the one who jerk off thinking about, those freaks with their stable minds!
They must be wrong, only you are right, they just call you immature, because they are jealous that you have it all figured out!
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>>26209159
>the ones who are having sex are right, you're wrong

you're just doing the same thing you're accusing him of retard.
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>>26209159
>All those foolish people who are worth something
Basing your sense of self-worth on your job is foolish, yes.
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>>26208804
Wise anon knows.
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>>26182745
The road to power is littered with sacrifices. If you want to "make it" in this world you need to become a monster willing to crush anyone in your way.
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>>26192617
Good read/analysis
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>>26201624
Saving for what? Money doesn't save you from the void.
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>>26180981
be productive.



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