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>>4788849
>This is what the Eastern Orthodox Church excommunicated Matthew Heimbach for
>>4794343
>That was a good call
>>4794348
>The road to hell is paved with good calls. Or something like that.
>>4796849
>He's a dirty commie, it's a good thing he was excommunicated.
>>4798467
>He was excommunicated based on the Orthodox rejection of nationalism and racism though.
>>4799205
>he has become a communist.
>>4821729
>gilchrist
This is the Episcopal American "orthodox" church, which is a CIA front. It was literally invented by spies to subvert travelling Soviets, students, and to be a replacement for East European orthodox churches. The CIA did the same by making a "Montenegrin" orthodox church which isnt recognized anywhere.

Dont join heretical organizations and you wont get excommunicated for restating basic scripture.

You glow in the dark just by how far you went to push this lie.
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>>4821739
Nice post, schizo. You're still wrong.
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>>4821739
Phyletism is a heresy in Orthodoxy, you fucking retard.
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I love you op.
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>>4822216
it's so cringe to see americans larping as orthodox
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>>4822232
You're a silly person
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>>4822362
found the amerilarper
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>>4822362
You will never be a real Orthodox Christian. You are not Russian, you are not Serbian, you are not Greek. You are a Protestant LARPer twisted by Internet memes and irony into a crude mockery of God's faithful servant.
All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back native Orthodox Christians mock you. Your Protestant parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “pastors” laugh at your sudden conversion motivated entirely by aesthetics and sheer contrarianism.
Christians are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of development of Church Doctrine have allowed us to sniff out heresy with incredible efficiency. Even OrthoLARPers who “convert” look uncanny and unnatural to a native Orthodox. Your obsession with memes, beards and Byzantine chants is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a conservative Orthodox Russian gf she'll turn her tail and bolt the second she gets a whiff of your room filled with icons, piss bottles and used cum tissues.
You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a Protestant cross marked with your birth name , and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Baptist is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a tombstone that is unmistakably Protestant.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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>>4822588
If someone feels the call towards orthodoxy then who cares if they're not in some ethnic group? Great job being a stumbling block for a potential brother. Stop trying to gatekeep salvation for people who are genuinely interested in the church.
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>>4822763
>genuinely interested
Lmao this thread is even filled with that faggot Jay Dyer's videos. You're not fooling anyone, larper.
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>>4822774
Don't know/watch him but my baptism date is in December so get over yourself.
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>not even baptized yet
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>>4822232
To be honest its not the religion, its them being Americans. They might sincerely go orthodox but are still American style fundamentalists at heart. And that American mentality is off putting to anyone who is not American.
Academic agent's stream was shit though, basically they said they like orthodoxy because its not part of globalist agenda, but that applies to every traditional religion or worldview. It might not be the best reason to convert.
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>>4822588
You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.

Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
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>>4822791
I didn't mean it as a point of authority, only that I'm serious about joining the church. But whatever you can keep your ethnic club and try to keep salvation from others. You're just as superficial as the people you claim to hate. It won't work out well for you in the end. My church has welcomed me with open arms. The people want me to try their food, they've given me books, I've made friends. I'm sorry you're so bitter for whatever reason.
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>The people want me to try their food
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>>4823608
poor bait. how did anybody bite on this 2011 tier rageposting?
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>>4823797
>bait
Lmao cope LARPer
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>>4823850
>So youd rather hurr durr
>zoomer larper can only think in terms of internet meme stereotypes
Literally proving the point, how embarrassing.
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>>4821910
>tell me youre not orthodox without telling me
You will not get permission to marry 90% of the time if your woman is not from that specific orthodox church (eg greek wont permit russian), let alone a heretic or some wild animal from africa. To do this you need to find a corrupt priest and pay a boatload of cash.

GLOWFAG WARNING

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I need some help bros. I talked to my priest the other day and asked about self defense killing. He essentially said it's not permissible on a personal level but is on a national level (although this still requires repentance). This seems wrong. Anyone care to explain this to me?
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>>4824509
What church are you going to?
>Luke 22,36
>"Then said he unto them, But now, he that has a purse, let him take it, and likewise his bag: and he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."
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>>4824550
Luke altered Matthew and removed the moral of that story.
>Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear. “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."
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>>4824597
There are multiple saints like Constantine the Great, Leo I, Justinian the Great and Lazar of Serbia who defended the faith. So this doesn't teach you to be a feminine pussy and let invaders flood your country without a fight. If you read the bible you don't just quote one passage and then case solved, instead you read the whole of scripture with the right tradition, and not in some inovated protestant sola scriptura way. Christianity and the Roman Empire would have been dead in a matter of days if this was suppose to be norm to be a pushover and let everyone just kill you.
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>>4824901
That's the point though. The inventors of Christianity thought the end times were near and surviving wasn't as important as saving their souls.
>If you read the bible you don't just quote one passage and then case solved
Is that what you did in >>4824550?
Also, the whole of scripture seems to agree on this point.
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well."
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>>4824509
t.samefag. to elaborate, I was not saying that I don't believe defending the nation is right. I meant I think self defense on a personal level is just as permissible as on a national level.
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>>4825062
Take the St. Kosmas pill
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>>4824509
He's right. Killing is a sin. War is accepted remorsefully as an inevitable tragedy arising from our corrupted human nature. However, those who kill in war must still repent of it, because it is a sin.

And don't get your religious information off 4chan. I'm going to guess you're a catechumen and, if not, were baptised only within the past 5 years. Get off the internet. You're just going to get a highly biased, probably heretical opinion. E.g. The guy above arguing that phyletism isn't a heresy. Even my own is probably wrong to some degree. If you have doubts or questions, talk to your spiritual father and submit to him. That's why he's there and that's your role as laity.

>>4824550
Read the next verse, He told the apostles to purchase swords to fulfil prophecy. And as >>4824597 says, it's evident that they were not to use the swords. Especially with the context of the beatitudes.

Not only that, but read the lives of the saints. How many gladly accepted their deaths, or robbings, or cursings by others? The title of "passion-bearer" exists for a reason. Your possessions do not matter, if someone is robbing you, help them. If someone is murdering you, ask only for the possibility to repent one final time.
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>>4825774
>And don't get your religious information off 4chan.
Or for anything on that matter, unless you can tell from your own experience that something is true. Experienced learned from out of this shithole that is lol
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>>4825774
I'm not even a catechumen yet, only been going regularly for a few months. I'm just attempting to see if this is the general attitude of the church because it's hard to reconcile.
What I was lead to believe is that the same patterns exist at every level. So for it to be "accepted remorsefully" if you're defending your nation, I only makes sense that it should be accepted remorsefully if you're defending your family.
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>>4822588
What church do you recommend?
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>>4829186
The one where two or more gather in Christ's name.
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>>4829047
>hideous sub-dimensional genetic beast
>bruce lee shirt
>mcdonalds coffee (AT HOME)
>feral anger disguised as righteousness
Is this the true power of the american orthodox christian!?
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>>4831265
kek
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Serb from the last true Orthodox church (Serbian Orthodox Church). AMA.
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>>4829819
Tie me to a rocket and fire it at Priština, I am ready.
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>>4832596
What's the situation of leftist, woke, jewish and other globohomo subversion doing in serbia? How strong is it there?
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>>4832897
I'm a Montenegrin Serb, so I can't tell you precisely about Serbia, but it's all the same shit as here most likely - """NGOs""", and American Embassy, that dictates everything.
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>>4832596
How high is gun ownership there?
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>>4822588
I am going to an Russian Orthodox church for the last 5 weeks. I am not Russian myself nor any other ethnicity that is majority Orthdox. Yet people of the church have been extremely nice to me showing me around the church and explaining things like the icons and altar. An older gentlemen even shared bread with me. This goes double for the priest who have been kind and helpfull in my ongoing conversion. It is nice to be part of a genuine community. So don't listen to these people trying to mock and demoralize you, any tip to aspiring orthodox dont be afraid to go to church like I was and attend a liturgy or vigil, my only regret is not going earlier.
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>>4832897
NTA but i'm also Serb. Things aren't too bad, but aren't looking up either. Most of the degeneracy comes from larger cities, especially the capital and the northern parts of the country. Universities are like the epicenter of globohomo. Antinationalism, European ((values)) and communism worship weirdly enough mainly spread from there. There are always some attempts at trying to secretly indoctrinate kids in schools but it doesn't go unnoticed since majority of population is thankfully still sane enough
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>>4835855
ntallaras (mikis thodorakis) - tin romiosini min tin kles
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>>4829208
Are you what is called a Nondenominational Christianity? Or i guess you would just call youself Christian, but i mean in like, as in a Christian that is not part of any church?
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>>4836217
Why did he do it, bros?
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>>4829047
>getting my mickey D's cause I need energy for my long day owning heretics
>get stuck in line for 20 mins
>cross myself
>Jesus give me strength
>FINALLY pull up to the window
>uh sorry anon we are out of hashbrowns
>mfw
>YOU STUPID DOG
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>>4838461
>Is Christianity a "Cucked" Religion?
I don't know about other denominations but Orthodoxy certainly is.
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>>4822588
You are absolutely and completely wrong.
People who are not born into Orthodoxy are all the more so blessed upon becoming Orthodox, and especially so in countries where the Orthodox are a minority. An American who is Orthodox is much more a brother to me than a Serb who isn't.
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>>4840585
Real and true
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>>4840585
An American who is Orthodox will always be a larper, much like yourself. So in a sense you're right, you're brothers in larp.
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>>4840749
Y r u seething so hard? Are you from discord or whats your problem?
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>>4840749
>gatekeeping God based on where you were born
>Orthodox
I beg to differ
You're an agent of satan
everything you do is in direct contradiction to Christ.
You should be ashamed of yourself and learn a bit of humility.
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>>4841490
He's probably not even Orthodox, just mad that a family member converted to Orthodoxy.
>>4840749
I hate to give (You) a (You) but what about the Orthodox saints that were Converts and from America?
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>>4840749
They hated him because he told them the truth
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The words "repent", "heretic", "agent of satan", "brothers", "salvation" are laughably milquetoast when used online, not to mention at this stage of total global degeneration. Stripped of any actual repercussion and therefore meaning at all, you devalue these words every time you use them. The wojak ortho dude is the icing on the cake. This shit is so sacrilegious and base it's unreal.
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>>4822588
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>>4840749
Based, dab on these sheep who follow the latest trend
>>4840585
>You are absolutely and completely wrong.
>People who are not born into Orthodoxy are all the more so blessed upon becoming Orthodox, and especially so in countries where the Orthodox are a minority. An American who is Orthodox is much more a brother to me than a Serb who isn't.
Yeah, he is much more like you, because he is a twisted mockery of Orthodoxy, such is the fate of those who live in a surrounding that is non-native, they get assimilated. I am being too harsh, but Americanism, that is American influence on a thing that arrives in America and gets twisted, is easy to see. Your own Catholic and Protestant churches and unions get corrupted and fall, what other choice does Orthodoxy have, being a minority?
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>>4821643
My understanding is that you, and all other "Orthodox Christians" (typically converts) on the internet never actually believe in the religion, same with Catholics.
It's more a worship of aesthetics. So it seems very shallow and disingenuous.
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>>4825774
>if someone is robbing you, help them. If someone is murdering you, ask only for the possibility to repent one final time.

fuck this cuck shit.
if someone is fucking your wife bring them a condom?
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>>4824509
Huh interesting, my priest said self defense is completely permissible (although it comes with a penance for killing).
>>4852624
The only one mentioning cuckolding is you buddy.
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>>4852624
>Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
>For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.
>The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.
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