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Let's not get too serious anons, let's share the love of Christ with our brethren!
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>>4517417
oy vey
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resist the urge to respond to them
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>>4517616
sappy romanticism

if you wanna see just how much of a bad mammajamma this blind guy was, read the scriptures which show him being interrogated by the priests after he was healed, and how he schooled them as to whether christ was from god

yeah, sure, he probably had a few moments of wonder after he was healed from being bind from birth, but if you wanna understand the point of why god ordained this man to be blind from birth, and exactly what kinda dude he had become after years of being a beggar in a society which assumed illness was a sign of condemnation -- likely giving him a thick skin against the accusations of faux-religionists, and the wit to meet them head on -- read john chapter 9

the films just can't do the actual narrative justice, director's always focusing on the wrong thing out of a desire to stir emotions rather than examine god's revelation of self
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>>4517627
take a chill pill pastor. the video is showing how Christ healed him of something that afflicted him all his life, and we're supposed to imagine being in his shoes, and think of how something similar could happen to us.
I think that's a cut segment of a longer video anyway.
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>>4517640
He makes a good point tho....
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>>4517640
>I think that's a cut segment of a longer video anyway.

well hey, maybe the director showed the wider context, but you still have the problem of the film breaking the second commandment

do you think Christ is chill about that ?
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>>4517647
what? not worshipping idols?
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Sadly there are people who hate Jesus...
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>>4517647
>nice depiction of Jesus healing blind man, no biblical inaccuracy
>"but you still have the problem of the film breaking the second commandment"
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>>4517417
Ironic considering this image is commonly associated with Nietchse. Was it chosen purposely?

Also any thoughts on Kierkegaard?
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>>4518004
Kierkegaard is based
everyone should read Fear and Trembling
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Do you ever just wonder if god hates his followers? Or if he hates us as humans?
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>>4518209
God loves us, so much so that he died for us, even though we're degenerate sinners who deserve punishment
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>>4517712
based rick
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>>4518004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMJc9UMzFSE
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>>4518215
>god loves us so much he put us in world where pain and misery exists, and if we aren’t happy about that he sends us to a place of eternal pain and misery.
>before that people just kinda stopped existing when they died, until god “sacrificed” himself in a 30 year long blood ritual to guarantee our pain and misery after death unless we follow specific rules about penises. Except god didn’t really die so it wasn’t a sacrifice but you’re still cursed
>your reward for masochistic obedience to worldly men with his name on their lips is total ego death that lasts forever. You as a concept cease to exist, but you’re still aware all the mandatory praising you do of god. To do this you must spend your finite amount of time on earth giving the basic essentials of life to other men who dress funny at least once a week. This is how you get the “not-hell” ending.
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>>4518588
on the matter of a world of pain
>how much of our pain, of the world's suffering is caused by us?
>can natural privation be overcome by man?
>can manmade privation be solved by man?
>can natural ailments and afflictions take hold over ourselves if we were not so distracted by other matters?
>is the natural world so lenient and peaceful that we must dusturb it further with manmade atrocity and affliction?
>could one man, blessed by god, provide change to these systems if he devoted his life to them?
>could 10? or 100? or 1000? a million? a billion?

the answer to these questions is the first step to understanding why life is suffering. Original sin exists, for it is the sin of the father. the failures of yesterday carried forth to burden the born of today.

We must therefore solve and absolve these things and work in christ not to create nor carry forward our own sin lest we lay it upon our own sons! In christ all things are possible, and through him man is called to be made better!
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>>4518209
"If you then, evil (sinful by nature) as you are, know how to give good and advantageous gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven [perfect as He is] give what is good and advantageous to those who keep on asking Him."
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>>4518588
God didn't add misery or pain here, we did that. God gives us and respects our free will completely. Humans are spirits in a body with a mind and do not cease to exist, before or after Jesus. Jesus provided a way to be redeemed for those before and after him, so that all blessings may come to us who do no deserve it, reconciled us with God.
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post the Barabbas one
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>>4517644
someone who knows the name of the song?
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Don't get TOO comfy now, Christians; those tithing dollars tend to turn into hush money when you do.
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>>4517711
>people
i only see a rat in your webl
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>>4517711
Obviously was being flippant
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>tfw will likely never see the reunification of rome and constantinople under one church in my lifetime

Do you guys think God cares whether we receive the sacraments from the Catholic or Orthodox church? All I want to do is move to Russia and life my life as a siberian hunter with a qt Russian wife and 10 children :(
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>>4521418
The catholic Church considers the orthodox church sacraments to be valid since they are still apostolic churches.
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>>4520886
>this somehow excuses it
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>>4517711
>>4520886
it's a joke yeah but Sarah Silverman is genuinely one of the most degeneracy promoting NWO complicit jews in hollywood
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>>4518588
Hellp friend, read this and it will counter the points you made (points I also struggled with in trying to accept God)
https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2godforallthings/the-river-of-fire-kalomiros/
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>>4517417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE96AgZZn90

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7nmmdhAx10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSct3kcVMck
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>>4521418
You'll see the entire world under Jesus in the next 12 years, just going to get really shit for people beforehand
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the kingdom of god extends to all that is
and i am it's sole ruler
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>>4517901
Bishop Williamson needs to stop LARPing as a Nazi and take the Logospill
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>>4520346
song?
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>>4517417
What happened to Christianity exactly?
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>>4517644
Where is the art in this from?
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>>4523180
I think/hope pastors and churches like this are few and far between, but the answer to your question is clown world and lack of Christians having a spine
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>>4523215
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Doré
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>>4523219
i got a whole folder dedicated to pozzed Christianity bro
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>>4523243
evangelical churches is what went wrong
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>>4523243
tiktok is saturated with them, it isn't an accurate sample group
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>>4519488
>free will
No such a thing.
Human will being free in any meaningful way would be incompatible with an omniscient and omnipotent creator.
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>>4523270
whence comest thou out from reddit pseudointellectual nigger
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>>4523273
>trying so hard to fit in
At least pretend you have an argument, anon. This is embarrassing.
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>>4523180
>>4523243
Christianity is a product of Jewish pathological behavior, their deepest neuroses sublimated into a multicultural belief system and the first successful attempt at a one world religion, one of the pillars of the NWO. It displaced genuine, native spirituality as the original globohomo project, an ideology enabled by pandering to the lower classes through empty promises of equality and driven by handouts (i.e. charity) in exchange for their brand loyalty. The leftist circus you see today is nothing more than its logical conclusion.
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>>4523318
>proceeds to fuck niggers because god doesn't make mistakes
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>>4523321
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>>4523321
How long can you go any any given day without thinking about black cock?
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>>4523331
longer than your mom
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>>4523248
exactly what evangelicals say about whatever denomination you are

>>4523258
it was starting long before tiktok
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>>4523275
you didn't make any argument yourself faggot, you just made what you thought was a deep statement. there's no reason those things are incompatible.
I think I know what you're gonna say though
>hurr if God noes wut ur gonna do den u didnt choose
yeah you did retard it was still your choice
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>>4523654
>getting out of the way of a ritual is twisted into running away in fear
would barging through it be any better?
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>>4523159
Beter Off Alone
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>>4523725
Anon, what causes you to choose one thing over another? Were you not created by God and, therefore, your own natural inclinations designed by Him?
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>>4524174
God gave us our agency as well, the point of this life is a test, if we were just dumb machines with a fate carved in stone he may as well have sorted us into "good" and "bad" without all the drama. your "inclinations" may be ingrained by your DNA and the conditions of your upbringing but you still choose the direction of your life.
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>>4518196
What's the name of the second song?
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>>4523654
I need the name of the song
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>>4517721

Campbell is much like Zizek. He's insightful, he approaches religion with the wit of a clever critic, but his inability to go beyond psychoanalysis and actually enter into the perspective of a believer limits his understanding. Ultimately, a good mind poisoned by a jewish mode of thinking.
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>>4523180

anyone can buy a clerical collar. There's a lot of tiktok psyops following this route. During this abortion frenzy right now, there's plenty of fake christians who are available to news media to say "actually christianity doesn't care about abortion." They're just props. They're there to stand in as Christians in a ritual of humiliation. They're living effigies.
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>>4525637
You're just waltzing around the problem, anon. What causes you to use that "agency" and do something God either approves or disapproves of? Isn't it those very inclinations programmed by God Himself in us which distinguish a saint from an unrepentant sinner?
>if we were just dumb machines with a fate carved in stone he may as well have sorted us into "good" and "bad" without all the drama
Indeed. The drama is a religious invention, there are only predetermined causes and effects.
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>>4523802
Did you not see the looks on their faces? You are not a good judge of character.
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>>4523802
or calmly stand to the side like literally everyone else.
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>>4526386
>going around it is a sign of fear
keep telling yourself that man

>>4526502
nobody's obligated to waste their time
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>>4517627
oh cool, thanks man
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>>4526822
are you at least 18?
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>>4526187
you aren't "programmed", you're a biological being. only absolute brainlets think a person is functionally similar to a robot. not only that but if you're a christian, assuming you are and that you didn't just come to this thread to detract and stir up controversy, then you believe that the core of your being is not your brain but your immaterial soul.
you use your agency constantly all the time.
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>>4525830
Omega- Gyöngyhajú lány
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>>4527077
You didn't address the question, though. How do you (regardless of whether "you" translates to a robot, a biological entity, or an immortal soul) choose between option A or B? What differs one person from another if not a predetermined nature designed by God which is particular to each individual? Unless you're arguing our choices are random (and, consequently, meaningless) there's no avoiding the conclusion that God, not man, is the supreme architect of fate.
Yes, it's true that we may experience the process of choosing in our subjectivity, but what we do "choose" is ultimately decided by that which is the first cause of all things: God.
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>>4528663
who the fuck is jay dyer
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>>4528689
Jay Day, the atheist destroyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdSNfGoyFEc
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>>4528626
I see this is going to go nowhere because you think people are robots, but maybe I can say it in a way that you'd understand - God "programmed" us to be autonomous. he did not make any decisions for you other than about your physical body and brain. is the future set in stone because he knows what it will be? you'll probably just say "yes", but that's because you're thinking in a box. the fact that something *will* be does not mean that it *must* be.
it doesn't really matter if it's affected by quantum wave functions or true random variables or whatever, it's probably unknowably complex to us anyway. all you have to know is that you have full accountability for all your decisions, you can't blame "fate" for anything.
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>>4523129
This was very interesting
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>>4523293
The Jews are in your walls.
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>>4528950
None of that answers how you make your choices, anon. I'll ask you again: What causes you to choose one thing over another if not a predetermined nature designed by God as your all-knowing and all-powerful creator? What is this "unknowably complex" decision-making system if not a divine program which moves us as seemingly "autonomous" beings?
To give man control over his own fate is to take away God's sovereignty over his creation. You are what you are because God made you so, the accountability (if there's any) is entirely His.
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>>4523180
He looks like a jew
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>>4523129
Indeed you should larp as a jew instead.
Ethnic identity is just what sect of judaism you follow.
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anyone got the malachi martin one?
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>>4523180
Very specific and subversive universalist and pansy sandal wearing, vegetarian interpretations of Christianity
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>>4529756
>>4530068
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>>4521418
idk about rome, but constantinople will stay islamic until the end of the world, as muhammad prophesized.
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>>4530181
Hitler tried to warn us but we didn't listen.

>Christianity was not content with erecting an altar of its own. It had first to destroy the pagan altars. It was only in virtue of this passionate intolerance that an apodictic faith could grow up. And intolerance is an indispensable condition for the growth of such a faith. It may be objected here that in these phenomena which we find throughout the history of the world we have to recognize mostly a specifically Jewish mode of thought and that such fanaticism and intolerance are typical symptoms of Jewish mentality. That may be a thousandfold true; and it is a fact deeply to be regretted. The appearance of intolerance and fanaticism in the history of mankind may be deeply regrettable, and it may be looked upon as foreign to human nature, but the fact does not change conditions as they exist to-day. The men who wish to liberate our German nation from the conditions in which it now exists cannot cudgel their brains with thinking how excellent it would be if this or that had never arisen. They must strive to find ways and means of abolishing what actually exists. A philosophy of life which is inspired by an infernal spirit of intolerance can only be set aside by a doctrine that is advanced in an equally ardent spirit and fought for with as determined a will and which is itself a new idea, pure and absolutely true. Each one of us to-day may regret the fact that the advent of Christianity was the first occasion on which spiritual terror was introduced into the much freer ancient world, but the fact cannot be denied that ever since then the world is pervaded and dominated by this kind of coercion and that violence is broken only by violence and terror by terror. Only then can a new regime be created by means of constructive work. (Mein Kampf's Chapter 5, "Worldview and Organization")

https://greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf
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>>4530181
that gif perfectly explains my point.
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>>4529727
if you drop a ball twice from a high building, the ball takes two different paths, due to several external factors and a few internal ones. let's say you know where the ball landed every time. is it you who made the ball land there? no, it was the world and the ball. god is the man standing on the building and you are the ball. he knows where you will go but it's your decision anyways.
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>>4530255
>is it you who made the ball land there? no, it was the world and the ball.
Except, you know, I also made the world and the ball because I'm literally God. Your analogy only accounts for God's omniscience while dismissing omnipotence. Every factor, whether internal or external, is willfully designed by God.
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>>4530307
>Every factor, whether internal or external, is willfully designed by God.
Including your free will, but keep being stubborn if you wish, it's your free will after all.
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>>4530362
There's no such a thing as "free will" though. There's only your will, which is programmed by God and as such an extension of God's will.
Whatever you think you think you're "freely" willing was willed by God before you were even aware of it.
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>>4517616
gay dialogue, gayer body language and diction
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Can anyone reccomend good Christian authors? I liked Fulton Sheen, anything similar or more right leaning?
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I'd be curious to hear if any of you have thoughts on Mark Passio?
https://odysee.com/@SlavesNoMore:b/Mark-Passio---Fake-Ass-Christians---Part-1-of-2:c
https://odysee.com/@SlavesNoMore:b/Mark-Passio---Fake-Ass-Christians---Part-2-of-2:ff
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>>4528891
Holy shit Matt Dillahunty absolutely BTFO'd him @18:30. So much for being an "atheist destroyer" lmao
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>>4530239
Muhammad prophesized that Constantinople would fall to the Muslims at the time of the apocalypse. Er...
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>>4531923
no, the prediction is that constantinople will be conquered by the romans once again, and then reconquered, then rome will be conquered. this happened, if you consider byzantium to be rome and greece to be modern byzantium.
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>>4531601
>good
>Christian
Pick one.
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>>4517417
Masturbation, lust, and sex outside of marriage are all a grave sin. Jesus forgives you for being a coomer, but only if you admit your hedonistic life is offensive to God and seek Christ in prayer everyday to help you break your addiction.


>Mark 7: 21 “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,

>Matthew 5:28 - But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

>1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the fornicator sins against his own body.

>1 John 2:16 - For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh & the lust of the eyes & the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.

>Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage is to be held in honor among all, & the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators & adulterers God will judge.

You can only be so useful to Jesus as a coomer, so strive with Christ to conquer lust of the flesh asap so you can become a proper warrior for Christ.
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>>4517627
Based post. The blind man utterly BTFOd the Pharisees so thoroughly they kicked him out of the Synagogue. He casually did it too, like it wasn't even a big deal. I believe some are born disabled due to a lack of love for God from the Parents, but other times it's an opportunity to glorify God and save that person's soul from hell. Who knows if a person being born with a disability would keep them reliant upon God in a way being born healthy would have robbed them?
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>>4531969
Christians couldn't handle the truth and killed those who spoke truthfully about Jesus's homosexuality

>The relationship between Christ and John was certainly interpreted by some as being of a physical erotic nature as early as the 16th century (albeit in a "heretical" context) - documented, for example, in the trial for blasphemy of Christopher Marlowe, who was accused of claiming that "St. John the Evangelist was bedfellow to Christ and leaned always in his bosom, that he used him as the sinners of Sodoma".[21] In accusing Marlowe of the "sinful nature" of homosexual acts, James I of England inevitably invited comparisons to his own erotic relationship with the Duke of Buckingham which he also compared to that of the Beloved Disciple.[22] Finally, Francesco Calcagno, a friar of Venice[23] faced trial and was executed in 1550 for claiming that "St. John was Christ's catamite".[18]

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>>4531969
You're full of a wicked spirit that's enraged with what I posted. All you've done is verified to me that the message I preach is of God, as demons always gaslight in response to the gospel. Of all the posts in this thread, mine caused you to seethe.

Lust of the flesh is the most insidious of sins that greatly hampers the relationships between Jesus and many of my brothers in Christ. Satan has done the greatest damage to the faith through sex culture, however that's soon coming to an end by God's grace.

Satan's Kingdom will be torn to pieces for a good while, and we will have peace for a time. Amen.
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>>4531956
>>4531969
>>4531973
And yet it's an established fact that John was a twink, possibly a trap. Even Medieval Christians knew that

>John is traditionally depicted in one of two distinct ways: either as an aged man with a white or gray beard, or alternatively as a beardless youth.[26][27] The first way of depicting him was more common in Byzantine art, where it was possibly influenced by antique depictions of Socrates;[28] the second was more common in the art of Medieval Western Europe and can be dated back as far as 4th century Rome.[27]

>In medieval works of painting, sculpture and literature, Saint John is often presented in an androgynous or feminized manner.[29] Historians have related such portrayals to the circumstances of the believers for whom they were intended.[30] For instance, John's feminine features are argued to have helped to make him more relatable to women.[31] Likewise, Sarah McNamer argues that because of John's androgynous status, he could function as an 'image of a third or mixed gender'[32] and 'a crucial figure with whom to identify'[33] for male believers who sought to cultivate an attitude of affective piety, a highly emotional style of devotion that, in late-medieval culture, was thought to be poorly compatible with masculinity.[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Evangelist#In_art
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>>4531975
You can't fool me with the gay birds you've been posting. Leave the closet, brother.
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>>4531975
>>4531976
Paul of Tarsus was also gay

https://qspirit.net/apostle-paul-homosexuality/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-the-apostle-was-a-possibly-gay-elite-radical-who-believed-in-equality-for-all

Paul was in fact as gay as a South Beach drag queen. His sensitivities, as revealed by his idiom, are the same as Gore Vidals. It strikes me that John Paul abandoned the mission with Paul and Barnabas because Paul made a pass at him in some manner; that Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was his lust for twinks; and that the circumcision of Timothy represented the first same sex marriage in the Bible, I think Paul's unacknowledged sexual orientation is the source of much of the sexual abuse associated with the Catholic Church over the centuries (it has always been a subtext in literature) but the up side is that his thinking is very attractive to women, which can't be said of Peter or James.
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>>4531973
>>4531976
Furthermore, for attempting to mislead my brothers in Christ and keep them chained in their lusts, you are hereby cursed by Jesus to die a bloody death soon and when you least expect it; upon death you will be cast into hell. You cannot repent nor beg forgiveness; those who are stumbling blocks to Jesus' sheep are hated by God and will not be shown mercy.

You're swine and will die in your sins; the demon that possessed you shall lose its freedom and be cast into the abyss on this day.

Amen.
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>>4529727
there's the kicker, you don't want the accountability. every person who adamantly believes we have no free will pretty reliably is motivated by a guilty conscience.
I'll humor you though regardless. say for the sake of argument I grant that our fate is set in stone, and that whatever preconditions set by God invariably determine our fate. does that matter from the perspective of your existence? within the scope of your consciousness and your life experience, are you not choosing your actions? whether it be just a mess of lifeless chemical reactions or what have you, you know that you are consciously experiencing the world, and that you *in effect* have the free agency to do whatever you want. you lift your hand, you put your hand down. was it just the whims of chemicals? maybe, but it doesn't matter. you chose it. and if you choose to murder someone, the country is justified in putting you in jail, and God is justified in condemning you. the theoretical physics that went into your brain choosing that course of action never come into the equation.
now, to address the theoretical physics side. let me ask you what exactly you would qualify as free will? you said if there's no randomness involved then it's set in stone and not free will, and if there is randomness then it's just meaningless and not free will either. what is free will then? what hypothetical thing would create free will that we lack? does God even have free will?
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>>4531988
That's lot of repressed homosexuality. Jesus was okay with being gay and had his own twink. Sucking dick isn't a sin, remember Matthew 15:11

>A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.

You're more likely to burn in hell for cursing people than sucking dick.

Let that sink in.
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>>4531999
You're not a person, you're swine, a lawbreaker, and a stumbling block to my brothers in Christ. Jesus will send forth The Holy Spirit to violently murder you one day soon and throw you and your demon into hell.

>Matthew 7:6 "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

>Matthew 13:41-42 "The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

>Luke 17:1-2 He said to His disciples, “It is inevitable that stumbling blocks come, but woe to him through whom they come! “It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea, than that he would cause one of these little ones to stumble.

Jesus hates you, this I know.
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>>4532008

Whether or not you believe in the rapture, and whether or not you even believe the Bible, there is nevertheless something very significant for gays and lesbians that is located smack-dab-in-the-middle of one of the main passages used to support the notion of the rapture. “Practicing” gays and lesbians are not automatically disqualified for heaven.

Two Couples in Luke’s Gospel: One Gay and One Lesbian

Luke 17:20-37 is sometimes called “Luke’s Small Apocalypse.” (1) There are two little verses just before the climax of Luke’s Small Apocalypse which are really quite extraordinary. Luke 17:34-35 are used in support of the doctrine of the rapture, and refer to two same-sex couples, two gays and two lesbians.

I tell you, in that night,
there shall be two men in one bed;
the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Two women shall be grinding together;
the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(Luke 17:34-35, KJV)
I know that most people concerned with these issues believe that Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. Well, technically, he didn’t, at least not as an abstract category. But he did mention four gays and lesbians–flesh and blood, living, breathing homosexuals. Jesus illustrates a key moment in “God’s Countdown to Judgment” by using as his examples 1) two men in one bed and 2) two women grinding together 3) at night. And half of the gays and lesbians (one member from each of the couples) are acceptable to God. And from what I read, the lesbian couple is in the middle of making love. Thus, acceptability to God has nothing to do with their celibacy.
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>>4532008
>>4532010
Proper Exegesis: Look at the Context
Look at the context. Immediately before the mention of two men in one bed is a lengthy discussion of the destruction of Sodom. Now I don’t believe the sin of Sodom was homosexuality. But there are many today who believe that it was, and I think most of the Jewish believers in Luke’s audience may have believed it as well.

Jesus knew that by recounting key details of Sodom’s destruction, his audience would have man-on-man sex on its mind. Jesus intended for us to understand that the “two men in one bed” were gay. It is no accident that for more than a hundred years every minister preaching on the rapture from Luke 17 has had to disavow the sexual content of verse 34.

“Just because two men are sleeping in the same bed doesn’t mean something bad is going on. I used to sleep with my brothers when I was young, and we weren’t gay. Also, it was common for travelers in ancient Israel, as well as for poor laborers, to share the same bed.”

Why has that disavowal of the sexual content in Luke 17:34 been necessary for the tens of thousands of sermons preached on the rapture? Very simple. Jesus deliberately mentioned Sodom details like Lot and his wife so that his audience would realize that the two men in one bed were gay.
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>>4531999
>>4532010
you and your gay pastor are both going to hell for intentionally misinterpreting the bible, blaspheming Jesus, and spreading faggotry filled lies
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>>4532008
>>4532010
>>4532013
Proper Exegesis: Studying Old Testament Antecedents to Understand the New Testament
If you are familiar with the rules of proper Bible exegesis (interpretation), you know that one key practice for interpreting a passage in the Greek scriptures is to look for its antecedents in the Old Testament. For example, if you wanted to explore the meaning of “the Son of Man” in Matthew, you would study the occurrences of “the Son of Man” in the Old Testament. (2) You may be able to tell where I’m headed with this.

I’ve only found two Old Testament references to two men laying together.

Thou shalt not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lie with a man, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)

By clearly alluding to the Levitical prohibitions against male homosexuality, followed immediately with his declaration that “one shall be taken, and the other left,” Jesus declared his own acceptance of gays and lesbians, and that gays and lesbians are not automatically rejected by God.

Before rushing to deny the sexual content of Jesus’ remarks, it seems more responsible to follow some of the proper procedures for doing exegesis. Proper exegesis includes, among other things, 1) looking at the passage in context and 2) looking at Old Testament antecedents.
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>>4523180
Americans.
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>>4532015
The more you curse us the less Christlike you become, especially because Jesus himself was gay.
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>>4532015
This soon to be dead heathen also fails to realize Jesus was vehemently anti-sex and rebuked the Israelites for fornication, adultery, and divorce. Homosexuality is also covered under fornication, as sex is strictly between a biological male and female according to Jesus.

>Mark 10 6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Thus, Homosexuality is clearly hated by Jesus as its fornication.
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>>4532027
Sex in marraige*, and marraige is strictly for a male and female, which is biological sex.

Gender is irrelevant, however God defines males as men and females as women. Jesus hates the LGBT and this one passage proves it.
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>>4532027
I'm pretty sure Mark is about divorce and has nothing to do with homosexuality. You're now dangerously twisting Scripture to push an anti-gay agenda that Jesus would certainly disapprove of being gay himself.
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>>4532032
Again, sex is for marraige according to Jesus. Well, that passage states marraige is for a male and female. The nouns he/she and husband/wife and father/mother are tied to biological sex by Jesus, proving the entire LGBT are guilty of fornication and thus are stumbling blocks by their existence and promotion of fornication. The entire LGBT movement is of Satan, which is why its called "Pride" a sin as well infamously tied to Satan.
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He isn't condemning gay sex, he is talking about divorce. You're just a hateful person trying to use Christianity to justify your hate. Your soul is severely endangered.
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Why did god make women so trash bros. Was the female brain one big prank? A turbo funnny? An epic troll?
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>>4532052
Again, sex outside of marriage is fornication, a sin.


>Mark 7: 21 “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,

>Matthew 5:28 - But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

>1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the fornicator sins against his own body.

>1 John 2:16 - For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh & the lust of the eyes & the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.

>Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage is to be held in honor among all, & the marriage bed is to be undefiled; for fornicators & adulterers God will judge.

Marriage is only for a biological male and female.

>Mark 10 6But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Thus, the LGBT is an organization of fornicators promoting sin, making them lawbreakers and stumbling blocks. If you're gay, celibacy is your only option, or pray for a spouse of the opposite sex you can enjoy. If you promote homosexuality however you're promoting fornication, a sin.
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>>4532059
That only applies to married, straight people. Notice how he especifically says looks at a woman and doesn't mention men. That's because Jesus as an unmarried gay man knew it wasn't a problem to have homolust since it didn't interfere with marriage laws reserved for straight couples whose purpose is reproductive.
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>>4526822
I bet those girls use twitter to swear theyll fuck a father up if they see one irl you know bc pdf files and all that
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>>4532070
Again, only a male and female are allowed marraige according to God. If you are anything else it's sex outside of marriage and fornication. Also, combine these two verses.

>Mark 7: 21 “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries,

>Matthew 5:28 - But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

>But I say to you that everyone who looks at a single woman with lust for her has already committed fornication with her in his heart.

Repent to God and don't make excuses or you'll die in your sins and burn.
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>>4518588
Yahweh is a Semitic egregore, what did you expect. Rabbi Yeshua dying for "your" sins is literally just the jewish practice of scapegoats.
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>>4531989
Free will is nonsense. A meme. It doesn't correspond to any real phenomenon. Look at how many mental hoops you have to jump through just to try reconciling it with God's attributes.
>okay, so God decides everything but it's still you experiencing it so it's you deciding even though it's not really but the chemical reactions produced by God
We're justified in putting murderers in jail because we have no alternative. If we could we would fix the mental issues that cause people to kill one another for no reason. God, however, does have the power to create beings whose choices wouldn't be criminal but chooses not to. It follows logically then that God creates some people to be moral and some to be immoral, for no phenomenon occurs without first having been called upon by God.
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>>4532079
Wrong. Read the verses you posted.

Fornication and adultery only applies to married people. Gay men couldn't marry, they quite literally couldn't look at women with lust to fornicate either, Jesus was very specific about that because he himself was an unmarried gay man.
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>>4532109
Sex outside of marriage is fornication. Only a male and female are recognized by God as a married couple. Thus, its fornication for anyone else not a male and female having sex in marraige.
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>>4532114
Are you ESL? Only married straight couples can commit fornication and adultery. Gay men can't look at women with lust, Jesus said so as an umarried gay man.
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>>4532119
Fornication is any sex outside of marriage. Only males and females can be married. If you're having sexwith another man it's the same as having sex with a woman outside of marriage. Homosexuality is fornication by nature.
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>>4532120
>If you're having sexwith another man it's the same as having sex with a woman outside of marriage
Lmao
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>>4532126
Yes. A faggot and a whore are the same type of sinner.
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>>4532129
That's the dumbest thing I ever read.
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>>4532130
It's the truth and utterly BTFOs trannies and faggots. The church fails against the LGBT because they are guilty of fornication too. Thus, Jesus allows the LGBT to prosper because He hates hypocrites. That's coming to an end however because I'm a virgin who doesn't masturbate nor lust. I can stone all fornicators, gay or straight.

God will bend reality according to my will.
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>>4532133
Uh hello based department?
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>>4532137
Abortion being banned in America is because I prayed for it. Soon, sex outside of marriage will be banned too.
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>>4532147
>praying for America to be overrun by niggers
Unbelievably BASED
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>>4532155
Let's break this down; niggers love consequence free sex and avoid marriage. Whites are the established nuclear family type that have kids and marry. Feminism leads to sex culture and abortion and race mixing. Ban abortion to make sex carry severe consequences. Niggers fuck less, whites marry and fuck more. Whites eventually regain the majority. Sex outside of marriage and porn must be banned eventually for this to truly work , but Banning abortion is the first step.
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Whites fully obeying God and killing off sex culture will end feminism, the LGBT, race mixing, and all other kikery. Christian fascism is America's only hope.
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>>4532133
>>4532129
Christian here. Faggotry is more serious and can turn people into sodomites and reprobacy. It's hard to describe, but it's changes your nature in a very dangerous , almost irreversible way that does not occur when engaged in heterosexual sexual immorality. It's a completely different level when you get involved with homosexuality/trans/crossdressing.

The burning of lust is a completly different and more dangerous when you get involved with homosexual stuff.

But I agree on the sentiment, that christians talks smack about homos, but then they watch porn or fornicate.
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>>4532228
My brother, repent of your hypocrisy. Understand, when Jesus said let he without sin cast the first stone it wasn't truly about mercy for the whore. Jesus needs champions who will conquer the wicked and Satan. However, if you're guilty of the same sins Jesus can't use you. Jesus therefore didn't allow those men to stone the whore, but would allow a GODCEL like me to burn her alive even.

Faggots and coomers are equally guilty of fornication, and until heterosexual degenerates are dealt with God will allow faggots to flourish.
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>>4532180
Makes sense if you ignore all facts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oSgHjW7JX4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6oXdNkZ3U
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A-55T-k-r3A

Believe. Repent and be born again
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8dpwoCBNDzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgspKtTezOc
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>>4532242
Hello, you are not understanding the point I was making, I was warning about the severe danger of homosexuality. Sexual desires towards men will turn you into a reprobate 100x quicker than being a heterosexual serial fornicator. It's like crack in terms of corrupting your soul quickly.

They are both vile sins, but homosexuality/transgenderism/crossdressing/bisexuality corrupts your soul much quicker as it's a complete inversion of God's design, unlike attraction to women.

I am personally seeking sexual purity to the point where it's not about fapping, or looking at pornography. I scroll past any images of attractive women, even if they are approprietly dressed and I practice matthew 5:27-30 daily and I dont know many other christians who do it. I'm at the point where sexual fantasies are my biggest enemy and battleground, I don't allow my eyes to stare at any attractive women and if I do I quickly stop.

I think its a great insight regarding LGBT being allowed to exist because of hypocrite christians who still fornicate or believe in once saved always saved when they stare lustfully at women in church like the hypocrite swine animals they are.
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>>4532280
I'm sorry to burst your bubble:
https://youtu.be/cpz_9_KalFY?t=128

Also, never trust megachurches.
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>>4532298
Fornication is the sin faggots fall under and are themselves enabled by a sexually degenerate heterosexual society. Jesus never once mentioned faggots because they're inherently fornicators. By trying to separate homosexuality from fornication you're allowing hypocrisy, when the axe of the church must fall first and hardest upon women and men having sex outside of marriage with each other.

To God a faggot and a coomer are the exact same and will burn for the same sin of fornication if they don't repent.
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>>4532310
We should not practice any sexual immorality whatsoever, but the sin of an older man having sex with little boys is worse in God's eyes and the condemnation is worse than if a heterosexual decides to fornicate.

Fornicators can be preached to and they can repent, but if you preach at a LGBT parade it will be filled with demonic possessed reprobates, that's why they won't stop sodomy even at the risk of getting aids and dying.

You do not understand that homosexuality is much more dangerous and spiritually darker than ordinary sex, as it goes completly opposite of the natural order.
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Please understand I hate the entire LGBT with a passion and desire them all suffer as brutal a death as possible, however my wrath must extend to ALL who engage in Godless sex culture and its promotion. Before we can start tossing fags off roofs we need to toss off whores and coomers first.
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>>4532336
>We should not practice any sexual immorality whatsoever
Leave it at that. To God all sin deserves death, period. Don't allow hypocrisy, punish faggots and coomers equal or fair God's wrath.
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>>4532342
Or face*
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>>4532342
Yes I understand your point and agree.

For other people who has problem with stopping porn, read and practice Matthew 5:27-30. This is your sword and shield. Don't even LOOK at attractive women. This is how you succeed in never fapping again. Get rid of your instagram, tiktok and anything where attractive women are posted. Never look at sexual material willingly. Do not enlarge thumbnails of women, scroll past them.
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>>4532348
Amen. I've gotten to the point where would be wetdreams take a violent turn. I reject and violently kill the Succubi that tempt me; this has happened 3 times this has happened. Once enough Christians ascend to sexual purity that's when God will bless us to purge the nation of all sexual degenerates that refuse to obey God.
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>>4531740
>unironically thinking that this was BTFO
the absolute cope of atheists
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>>4532180

>>4523330
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>>4523243
1. Tim 2-12
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>>4532626
The people promoting race mixing also support the LGBT, Abortion, feminism, and in general hate God. These people are enemies to God and are to be opposed.
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>>4523036
Where is this audio from?
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>>4532707
It's like both them and Christians are subversive Jewish elements or something >>4530181
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>>4525830
its the outro to New Slaves by Kanye West, which samples >>4527186
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>>4523180
BRO I AM SERIAL CANNIBAL MURDER-RAPIST
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE OTHER CANNIBAL MURDER-RAPISTS OUT THERE
SO AM GOOD AND MORAL NOW
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>>4520886
just like i'm being flippant when saying i want all kikes to be sent to the core of the sun so life and consciousness on this solar system can be preserved
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>>4525813
I get the point of this, but don't forget that it is the Roman soldiers who tortured the Lord before and during his crucifixion.
No people are without sinners, and that is why He is needed by us all.
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>>4530181
>>4530245
Christianity on its own did not destroy paganism you uneducated tards, it was literally Roman emperor converts that enacted laws to shift the priorities of religious life in the empire and eventually forbid paganism entirely. This was not a move by the "scary evil church" but by political entities looking to shift power around for their own reasons.
If you're going to blame anyone, it should be specific emperors and their regimes.
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>>4533322
>Christianity on its own did not destroy paganism you uneducated tards
No one said that.
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Part 1
Colossians 1:16-20
King James Version
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

>to reconcile all things unto himself
In order for something to be reconciled both parties must come together
>all things unto himself
the word things isnt in the greek, its just says ALL unto himself
>or things in heaven.
Read that carefully, what in HEAVEN needs to be reconciled by the BLOOD OF JESUS?!

> thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers
Where have I heard these things before?

Ephesians 6:12
King James Version
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The blood of Jesus can and WILL save the evil angels (this is why the body of Christ goes to heaven, to reach out to them, while Israel ministers to those on earth)

Ephesians 1:10
King James Version
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

How are all things in heaven going to gather to Jesus when 1/3 of heaven and 99% of all humanity are burning in hell forever?

HINT: Eternal torment is a mistranslation!
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PART 2
Irrefutable biblical evidence Jesus will save all mankind in the end!!! The evangel is good news for all!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdcBeFhe_zk&list=PLUDYOtamyAxP0KjrMY7JQyI48kQHJv26q&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUd7N1H2egY&list=PLUDYOtamyAxPl7kqG_6vUrI9SemGphOtw&index=1
Check out the 2 videos (I would start here)

You can watch the teaching or read the book
https://livefaith.tv/richards-books/


Jesus always does the will of his Father, if his Father wants to save all then all will be saved because Jesus always accomplishes his Father's will!

Every link below teaches that God will save all mankind. I have learned from all of them.

The guys below teach the 2 gospels truth (I can be wrong about this, but this is what I currently believe, first link explains the 2 gospels)
https://www.gospelfortoday.bibleanalytics.ca/
https://goodnewsgospel.info/
http://thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/
https://www.concordant.org/
http://www.gracetruth.co.uk/
http://martinzender.com/
https://www.concordantgospel.com/ [lists youtube channels that teach this stuff + discord invite]
http://www.biblestudentsnotebook.com/
http://www.studyshelf.com/videos/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ConcordantBelievers/comments/l7v56t/some_concordant_resources/
http://saviourofall.org/
https://livefaith.tv/richards-books/
https://goedbericht.nl/english/
http://www.bibleanalytics.ca/index.html
https://universalistheretic.blogspot.com/

The guys below mix the two gospel into one, but their is much truth here
http://www.theheraldofgodsgrace.org/Library.htm (they have a mix of 2 gospel teachers and 1 gospel teachers)
http://www.theheraldofgodsgrace.org/authors_frames_old.htm
https://bible-truths.com/
http://www.askelm.com/
http://www.iswasandwillbe.com/
https://godskingdom.org/
https://godsplanforall.com/
https://tentmaker.org/
https://makepeacewithjesus.org/


Save the links to a notepad document + bookmark them for further reading
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>>4517417
Forever and Ever in most translations of the bible is a mistranslation. The word there in the Greek is the plural form of the word Aion, which means age. The Greek reads to the ages of the ages in Rev 20:10. Most bible interpreters believe in eternal torment so they believe the Greek phrase to the ages of the ages means forever and ever and thus paraphrase the text as such. This is wrong. Numerous times in the New Testament the word Aion has a beginning, middle and an end. There are aion(plural) in the past, we are in a present aion, and there are going to be aion(plural) in the future, there is also an end(singular) of the aion (plural), and an ends (plural) of the aion (plural). Aion means an age. You cannot have plural past eternities/forevers/everlastings, a present eternity/forever/everlasting, and future plural eternities/forevers/everlastings. But you can have ages (plural) in the past. A present age, and futures ages (plural) culminating in an end of the ages, in which the ends of the ages being complete (multiple ages began and ended until the final age which to will end). The ages will end. There is an end to the ages.


https://www.hopebeyondhell.net/articles/further-study/eternity/
https://www.hopebeyondhell.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/UPDATE-Hope-Beyond-Hell-Chapter-1-AION1.pdf
https://www.iswasandwillbe.com/what-is-aionios-life/
https://makepeacewithjesus.org/7-the-septuagint-part-2
https://goodnewsgospel.info/Studies/EHC/The%20Ages.html
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d041101.htm
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d041201.htm
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d050101.htm
http://thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-meaning-of-aion-in-new-testament.html
http://thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-translational-inaccuracy-of-forever_11.html
http://www.biblestudentsnotebook.com/bsn852.pdf
https://www.tentmaker.org/Quotes/churchfathersquotes.htm
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZQB7NkZgFVKVp3HMabH9BWCf6GOUpKnRADy
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>>4517417
JESUS SAVES EVERYONE IN THE END!!! THE LAKE OF FIRE IS NOT FOREVER(see links below for proof). DEATH IS REAL. Those that die have no consciousness whatsoever. However, 2000 years ago a man named Jesus was born, he was the son of God. God, who always existed, begat Jesus, Jesus did not always exist. First there was the Father, God, then came his son. Jesus really is Gods son. Jesus has been given office and title and powers of God (God the Father always had these, Jesus did not, that is why God the Father gives these things to Jesus) but he is not the same being as his Father. One is immortal and could never die, the other is mortal and can die. Jesus before he was borne made everyone.
Jesus lived a perfect life, and died on the cross as a sacrifice for you and all the bad deeds you have committed in your life, these bad deeds are called sins, we are all sinners, and the wages of sin is to suffer and eventually die.

3 days and nights later after being totally dead (he ceased to exist and was in a lifeless corpse) in a tomb, God raised him back to life and Jesus ascended into heaven.

Thanks to this he defeated death and sin once and for all for everyone. Since he was sinless he could die in your place. Jesus on that cross paid for all mankinds sins, the Father has accepted the payment. Everyones sins have been paid for, hence all are saved. At this momment though not all are justified (declared not guilty, sinless), justification is for all and upon all who believe. Eventually everyone will believe. Some sooner others later.

Thanks to this, everyone will one day attain immortality and enter into the Kingdom of God, the lake of fire exists for some but it is not forever. Gods judgements are measured. In the end Jesus saves all. The cross grantees the salvation of everyone who ever lived. We have no free will. God gives faith to anyone he chooses. In the end he will give faith to all.

If What I said interests you check out the links
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>all these posts containing Bible verses not from The Navarre, New Jerusalem, NAB, or RSV-CE versions
>obvious attempts to derail thread to justify purging.
>Incomprehensible 'evidence' to convince us that Our Lord was a homosexual.
>posts no actual clips from reputable sources and fantastic Christian media and scientific discoveries.
>no pictures of Saints and clips from Christian debates.

Everytime.

"It is a ruse of the devil, by which he deceives good people, to induce them to do more than they are able, so that they end up not being able to do anything. The spirit of God urges one gently to do the good that can be done reasonably, so that it may be done perseveringly and for a long time." - St. Vincent de Paul
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>>4530068
you mean Neo-Marxists
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>>4534527
>waaahhh why aren't you using my favorite translations
lmao do christcucks really
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>>4533315
also isn't that Pontius Pilate became frends with Herod (forgot which) after sentencing Jesus to death?
pagans have 2 their share of Jesus death
also church says that its humanity collective guilt cuz all humans are capable of evil or something...
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>>4517424
What's the source for this?
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>>4532099
since you ignored my question and just restated your previous point I'll ask it again. what hypothetical thing would create free will that we lack? and does God have free will?
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>>4535176
Anon, I've answered that question directly multiple times already, there's no such a thing as free will. It's a pointless idea based on primitive misconceptions about human behavior that doesn't reflect any real phenomenon. You might as well ask me what hypothetical thing would create a certain "fnord" we lack. There's no absence of made up things such as this.
We are merely products of a chain of causes and effects that go back to a first cause understood by western religions as God, and that such God alone possess the attributes of omniscience and omnipotence. Whether or not God's will is "free" in any intelligible sense to us may be impossible to answer. Perhaps it is the only thing that's truly free, if we define God as "actus purus" like Aquinas' did. It wouldn't change the fact that we human beings are intently created by God with full knowledge of our inner workings and how we're going to express them. It's only logical to conclude then that God completely decides the individual fates of human beings. Any other conclusion would contradict the very things that define God and not simply a superior being who engineered humans without knowing what it was doing. God is, therefore, fully responsible for us, and everything that happens, including our conscious actions, does so because it was first willed by God.
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BASED
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what is the ecumenical significance of catboy hoonichan?
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>>4535209
free will doesn't exist? then how can God have free will and therefore be responsible? if you claim that free will doesn't exist then he can't be responsible. what allows God to have free will?
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>>4520886
>it's just a prank bro
Antichrists regularly mask their beliefs as "comedy", just watch some "late night comedy" shows or popular cartoons like Family Guy and see for yourself.
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>>4518196
the "bait" part of your bait/switch webm is way too long IMO
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>>4523293
Modern Judaism was created after Christianity. Please stop talking, I'm so sick of you ignorant fools shitting up these threads every single time. You clowns always refuse correction too. Just go away.
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Why do mods never ban trolls who spam and shit up these threads?
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>>4532010
Why do mods never ban trolls who spam and shit up these threads?

Romans 1 makes it clear, fags are worthy of death.
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>>4530245
>https://greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf
Look at the context in which he writes, as he said in your excerpt that for the NSDAP to win, their weltanshcauung (will, or worldview) has to fight the current regime and completely destroy it to win.
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>>4535669
Did you even read half of what I posted?
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Does anyone have any information on circumcision? I’m having a real hard time grasping how it’s not fucked up. And is the biblical version different? Just what the fuck man?
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>>4537209
It is fucked up. But Christians aren't commanded to circumcize their boys, it's a cultural practice.
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>>4535687
>Romans
Paul was a self-hating closeted homo.
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>>4535817
I read the whole think and you did not answer my question. perhaps it's because you yourself don't know what you believe.
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>>4537609
You might be unequipped for philosophical discussions anon. Not that I'm blaming you, just to be clear. After all you had no say in your formation, did you?
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>>4537623
guess we're wrapping it up then. I hope you find a better way to cope with your mistakes than blaming God for them.
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>>4537640
I don't blame God though. If He's infinitely wise then there's purpose to every flaw in His creation.
But if people thank God for the good things that happen in their lives it's only reasonable to also blame Him for the bad ones, yet curiously they tend to shy away from it. The truth is people are afraid of the realization that they're not in charge of their lives and that everything is in God's hands. Ironically, in doing so they show how little faith they actually have in God.
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>>4537845
yet you'll still be judged for your sins like it says in the bible. maybe you should repent for them instead of happily passing them off to powers out of your control.
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>>4538611
Whether we repent or not is up to God alone, otherwise everyone would simply choose to repent and sin no more. Our "shortcomings" are fundamentally part of God's design, we never had any control. You tremble before the prospect of having a fate carved in stone because you too don't trust God, which leads you to become more concerned with mundane notions of accountability and reward/punishment than faith in the divine itself. This may be the case with most Christians, and God knows when (if ever) you'll be able to see anything past an animalistic fear of fire and brimstone.
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>>4538936
the guilt for your deeds will continue eating away at you no matter how you shield them with excuses
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>>4534621
Not >>4534527

It's not about a "favourite" translation, but about the translation that captures the beat the correctness of those amazingly complex languages that are Hebrew and Greekbrew.

Readers which are who cares about the differences in the translation have observed - at least some of them, I hope - that there's changes that are creeping into the modern version of the Bible to help swallow the gay/trans pill and other abominations like those.
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>>4539618
I have no deeds to be guilty of. Are you sure you are not just projecting, anon?
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>>4526149
I don't know where the hell people are contracting this meme of "biblically accurate angels" from. The only time I recall angels forms being described is the two that showed up before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and that time that guy was forced to wrestle an angel. And in both instances they just looked like young men. Where does this "accurate angel" stuff come from? Jewish orthodoxy?
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>>4535687
>ban whoever disagrees with me
Go back.
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>>4540311
go back to /lgbt/ disgusting sodomite
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>>4540286
there are some weird angels in Revelation I think
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>>4531963
I've never really thought of it like this. I'm going to mold this in with my thoughts from now on.
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>>4517417
Anyone know what font this is?
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>>4534882
How sad.
Not only do they teach lies there, but the biggest brag is that they're trying to save this doomed world.
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>>4540286
I recall an angelic chariot of fire with concentric rings in Ezekiel, but I don't really read the Word of God to know what an angel is supposed to look like
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>>4523293
midwit moment
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why do these threads always attract such butthurt losers
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This Jesus guy is kinda based.
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>>4540720
Be blessed on Earth and in Heaven. Also remember the words of David and Paul.

>Psalm 119:71 It is good for me that I was afflicted, That I may learn Your statutes.

>2 Corinthians 12:7 Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me— to keep me from exalting myself!
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>>4541524
>had to google pathological





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