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I don't know whether to post this here or on /an/, so I'll start here.

Post webms/gifs of animals doing really cool or smart things. Lighting this candle with some crows
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Post more faggot
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>>4217773
Would you have been able to solve this quandry?
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So fun fact, scientists consider play a major indicator of high intelligence in animals. Here's some crows playing in the snow.
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Have you ever been outsmarted by a crow?
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These things are like two braincells away from being smarter than primates.
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How will catoids ever recover
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not sure if this counts as smart
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>>4217942
I like it
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Got any smart octopuses? Those are much higher than crows and dolphins because of the dexterity of their tentacles
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>>4217777
>Crow makes an eagle in the snow
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>>4218041
sorry bud iv not got any and im just about to go to bed so cant be bothered downloading octopus vids and conerting them but theres loads of vids of the wee guys solving puzzles and shit on youtube
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>>4218122
no worries fren I'll keep an eye on this thread wsg is a super slow board anyway.
People sleep on octopi they are demonstrably incredibly smart - think about how much brain power it takes to control the suction of every single individual suction cup they have.
Along with that they have too much of an advantage over other smart animals (namely dolphins, pigs, crows) These competitors are never going to be able to just "snout up" a civilization. You can be the smartest creature in the galaxy but if you're stuck with a couple of flippers it doesn't mean shit you cant manipulate the environment well and its basically like steven hawking.
Don't sleep on octopus they are the ones we need to watch out for
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If crows are so smart why can't they get the hotdog?
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It's going to be interesting where all this research leads. Recently read about a study that chickens are pretty up there in terms of intelligence (no shit, they're big birds, how is this even a question). There has also been some good research into goats and pigs in the last few years showing they are very social and pretty intelligent animals. I would bet in 100 years this is going to be one of those "looking back, how could they not have seen how barbaric they were?" things. Although right now it seems more likely that we'll reduce meat consumptions because of climate concerns rather than because of ethical concerns. As someone who spent every childhood summer on a farm I never understood how people can separate the piece of meat they buy at the supermarket from the animal. I guess they just don't know, they never experienced how personable and individual these animals are. I still recall fondly how the goats would recognize me every year when I returned. I'm not even against meat consumption - if you raise the animal yourself, treat it well and bring yourself to slaughter it that's completely fair game. But the industrialized meat production is just horrid, both for the animals and the humans involved. All that just so we can buy shitty meat for cents and throw away half of it.
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Test
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posting dumb animals fuck the system
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>>4217738
if your webms have sound they belong here, if not take them to /an/
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>>4218135
>Don't sleep on octopus they are the ones we need to watch out for
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>>4218981
G R A I N D E A T H
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>>4219048
Imagine being such a stupid bitch that you're gonna try to take chips from a bird.
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>>4218758
meworking.gif
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>>4220051
>webm labeled sandwich
>chips from a bird

Who's the stupid bitch here?
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>>4219048
What kind of brain dead fuckwit tries to steal back tamales from a bird?
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>>4220051
>>4220248
Y u mad tho
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>>4219048
t. bird
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>>4218999
how could a puppy that young possibly have time to learn english? get real anon.
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>>4220051
>>4219048
for real, did that dumb bitch thing the store wanted a sandwich back from a bird?
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How about smart videos ABOUT animals?
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>>4218758
Wow
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>>4218758
How do they understand the numbers tho? That way of representing them is a human creation
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>>4220605
the video loops very nicely
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>>4220633
doesn't need to actually understand the numbers, just what sequence to hit them in. any set of symbols would do
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>>4221109
But how would he know the sequence? They all appear at the same time
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>>4221120
he's been taught the sequence. but obviously doesn't know any actual maths. iirc the point of that experiment was to show that they actually have better reaction speeds and short-term memory than we do. they figured in the end that humans pretty much traded that skill for language ability.
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>>4221125
Makes sense, I've heard about the language thing before
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>>4218753
Very impressive.
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>>4218796

Right I agree to some dree, the industrial side is kind of nasty. Having spent lots of time on family farms I understand the proper farmer mentality that was taught to me and my cousins around slaughter time/when they were bought special cows/animals to care for as "theirs" however being food animals would eventually be brought to term, and the mentality is we are the keepers of these animals, its our duty to provide for them food and adaquate care, ensure their lives are devoid of pain and as comftorble as can be, and any kind of crulety is most definetly a bad "sin"...When it comes time for slaughter you do it as quicky and humanely as possible.

People DO need to eat and although there will always be a bit of unpleasentness surrounding the butchering it is the circle of life and will happen with or without humans, and while we are here i think it is a nessacary part of life
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>>4219048
>>4220051

"no NO, give me THOSE! ARhggg"
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>>4223303

Yeah but bird own eggs on a regular basis...They no boupt have experiance with this, as that other vid has shown
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>>4219116
FEET
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>>4223251
Based
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>>4218758
What game?
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>>4218796
Have some reddit gold you brave soul
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>>4226498
Lost
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>>4218758
I'm pretty sure this test is wrong somewhere, my guess is that they probably still see the pixels that were on a few seconds ago to light the numbers, wich means they still can remember the order of the numbers and that is impressive in itslef
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>>4220633
>>4226188
>>4226544
https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/chimp

Try it yourself, it gets too hard for me personally after 10 numbers. I've only did it a few times though, maybe you can get better if you sit and do it over and over like the monke who was doing 9s over and over.
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>>4218041
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>>4218796
I own chickens and can confirm they are retarded.
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>>4218710
>implying humans aren't susceptible to optical illusions
next thread will be a dumb humans"" thread
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>>4226580
A while ago I programmed a test to reproduce exactly the one the chimp is doing in that webm, after I watched a vsauce video on this. The video made the claim that it was impossible for a human being to perform as well as their best chimp, which was able to memorize 9 numbers in 0.5 seconds. However, I couldn't help but notice that only that one chimp seemed able to perform so well consistently, and that they were matching him against untrained humans.

That made me want to see how well I could do with a little training. In a few sessions I was able to consistently memorize 7 numbers in 0.5 seconds with 80-90% accuracy, with one caveat: I can only do it using a small enough browser window that I can see the numbers at a glance without having to move my eyes or use my peripheral vision too much. There's no way I can perform as well as that chimp in full screen, but the real impediment are my eyes and not my brain.

I ended up losing interest and didn't push myself to do 9 numbers, but maybe some day I'll give it another go. The test is here if anyone wants to try it out:
https://kastden.org/~lv/chimp/
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>>4217805
Crows with autism??
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>>4218981
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>>4226929
No need for that >>4214765
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>>4226824
some smart chickens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOhUlOEtH_o&ab_channel=RMVideos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qLs2K4UXXk&ab_channel=AnimalBehaviourMatters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUngzdsu72I&ab_channel=TheDodo
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>>4218758
>me solving old 4chan recaptcha
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>>4227143
Very cool anon, thanks
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>>4218710
cope more
retard raven
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>>4229333
what a piece of shit
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>>4219048
Shoutout to the bro who got the doors open for the gull though
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>>4218983
Dipshit acts like he's never seen an industrial deep frier.
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>>4218796
>we'll do this
>we'll do that
Interesting that you imagine yourself to be part of the ruling class
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>>4218796
I love this, anon. You are correct.
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>>4218767
>>Anti-drone stik
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>>4220605
Crikey!
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>>4220605
is that ray okay?
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>>4220633
>>4221109
>>4226580
>>4221120
>>4221125
Humans do better on this test when the symbols used aren't numbers or letters, because language processing is actually a distraction from the task.
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>>4226153
What happened to it? porcupine attack?
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>>4229333
f
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>>4217738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvcbJnl40HU&ab_channel=Shanmei%26Gato
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looking for that video of an octopus leaving its tank for a fish in another tank
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>>4223272
>Fucking hen
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Here are eagles helping set up a campsite
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>>4218983
His suffering is over now, sounds pretty smart to me.
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>>4219048
Dumb fucking karen trying to steal watermelon from that pig
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>>4231812
It turned itself into a pickle, funniest shit I've ever seen.
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>>4235219
why'd they do it?
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>>4230074
>calling that 'old' recaptcha
Do you even nigger nigger nigger nigger
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>>4219048
Fucking stupid whore trying to deny that dinosaur the right to participate in black culture.
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>>4234347
nice
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>>4219048
I hate women so much it ain't even funny
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>>4218027
What big O notation is this
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>>4218995
Lmao make me fag
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>>421778lo

>stupid bitch, 'hello' and 'hi' have the same meaning. give me my treat before i get all Hitchcock up on here.
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>>4226544
COPE
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>>4217738
>>4217774
If they were actually smart they wouldn't ply along because then they would be released into the wild.
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>>4218027
>>4217789
>>4217783
Imagine if we selected for smart birds on a massive scale. For instance we raise 100k and then breed the smartest 10%, introducing some new birds each time.
How many generations before they're doing arithmetic?
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>>4218796
It doesn't matter how intelligent animals are, they're food and/or tools.
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>>4235248
Christopher Nolan told them to.
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>>4230022
now post "some dumb chickens". where's your argument, faggot?
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>>4231580
>>4218767
How come the Taliban couldn't figure this out? Just hit the drones with a stick.
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>>4236992
Will not work. Their brain is too different. And most of these smart birds are probably smart, because they learned something. You will get quick learning birds, but you need a good teaching method to ensure the progress.
I mean, look at russians, they can be really smart, but lack the enviroment and school system so most end in Kurwa-people.
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>>4226544
its not fake: a german science show tested it years ago on humans: if trained, humans can do it faster and with less mistaks. Thats why you never see those tests on tv anymore
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>>4240722
Just because a brain is different, doesn't mean it can't be taught. They are visual and tactile animals. And yes, your right, techniques particular to training them will have to be improved. But we've taken other species and just through selection manipulated until significant changes occur.
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Cat protecting child from falling out of window
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>>4226824
Depends on the breed. Silkies are turbo retarded. hamburgs are pretty smart.
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>>4220605
Can't believe one of those killed Steve, rip, what a loss unironically. Such a bizarre accident.
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>>4240945
What kind of animal is that and does it shit in the house
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>>4242259
where else would it shit if you keep it in the house?
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>>4241113
I dont say, you cant teach them. Just saying what you expect as a result isnt possible by just breeding.
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>>4231564
commies always think as a hivemind but never look who will actually pull the strings on their commie show
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>>4237399
They're frens.
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>>4218753
>cuts the twig way too short.
what a retard
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>>4242798
I don't except that. After 10 generations of brainlet bird holocaust with only the smartest being allowed to breed, you might get 1 or 2 birds that maybe halfway got number identification, and then you breed those with new birds and repeat.
200 generations later, you might have them understanding sequential numbers.
We all eat fruit that 100 years ago didn't exist in its current form. We bred chicken to be fat fuckers. We bred pugs to have punchable faces.
Selecting species that are already intelligent in the animal kingdom and having what will have to be a pretty robust training program, you're eventually going to get specimens that are in their own league for their species.
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>>4223303
Wtf I had no idea what the vultures were so big
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>>4223303
>>4242974
Brutal moggings one after the other.
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>>4242925
Fair points, but anatomy is one point. Intelligence something else. You cant measure the intelligence that well because you dont see it. At least not without killing it.
And there are birds who can count or measure masses, but something arithmetic? Guess at first they have to understand future, "what if" and something abstract like numbers.
I think it is possible, but not the way you think it is.
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>>4217774
Sure. I'd pick up the whole container, drink the water and use the nut to bait a trap to catch a tasty bird to eat.
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>>4243707
>Fair points, but anatomy is one point. Intelligence something else. You cant measure the intelligence that well because you dont see it. At least not without killing it.
I'm looking for greater proficiency in performing complex problem solving. We're not measuring brain mass as that's largely irrelevant. Dolphins have much bigger brains than us, gorillas have brains comparable. But neither of these animals are equal to us.
Conversely a fly's brain is tiny and has the computational power of a toaster, yet it mogs our best fighter pilots and drones in acrobatic maneuvers.
My point that studying the bird post mortem is all well and good, but it misses what intelligence is.
>And there are birds who can count or measure masses, but something arithmetic? Guess at first they have to understand future, "what if" and something abstract like numbers.
If you can truely count, you can count the times you've incremented or reduced a value. That's basic addition and subtraction right there.
>I think it is possible, but not the way you think it is.
In what way do you think it's possible?
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>>4236973
kek
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>>4220605
https://youtu.be/JaG62zHxBHs?t=83
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>>4218710
>Black chicks - my dick.webm
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>>4242417
they're gonna fuck, aren't they?
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>>4218796
Too true anon.
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>>4241888
>>4242564
Cats sense that their owners are now possessed by tech-demons
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>>4236973
kekd
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>>4218758
damn I don't think I could do it that fast
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>>4223251
jedi reflexes
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>>4218796
it's been pretty well recognized that pigs are smart for a long time, aint no one giving up their bacon though
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>>4244160
>We're not measuring brain mass as that's largely irrelevant
It is not. A brain mass that is proportional bigger regarding body is always better. Besides i dont say the mass is important. Because you can weigh and measure the brain today. But how big the brain regions are, how many brain cells and neuronal connection exist. That is something you might get from dissecting the brain.

>Dolphins have much bigger brains than us, gorillas have brains comparable. But neither of these animals are equal to us.
Still they are more like humans than any bird.

>My point that studying the bird post mortem is all well and good, but it misses what intelligence is.
That is what i said. You cant measure intelligence. So you agree with me?

>If you can truely count, you can count the times you've incremented or reduced a value.
Yes and no. For example studies show crows are able to count to 6 or 7. African gray parrots can count up to 8 or 9. So there is a limit of how big the number can be. Thats a limit you have to overcome.

>In what way do you think it's possible?
First, you have to select the right species. Behaviour and brain capacity/build.

Second, a good method of learning and transferring of knowledge.

Third, a rewarding system or neccesarity for the birds to "evolve"

Fourth, dont expect you get a bird that reacts or think humanlike. Because their brain chemestry and anatomy is different.
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>>4237399
ur mom's a tool afaik
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>>4219048
dat boi earned it
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>>4229333
kek. I like pigeons, but they're dumb as bricks. I tamed one to the point it came into my house and sat on my desk, yet every time it was startled by something it flew into the same damn window and kept trying to get out that way until I caught it and kicked it out the door it came in from.
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>>4246285
shouldnt the cameraman intervene? hope the hecking birberino wasnt kill
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>>4217783
that's a magpie
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>>4242760
rip
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>>4248013
rules of nature
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>>4248013
why do you want the cameraman to be mean to the gator?
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>>4248016
No it's not.
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>>4237399
I bet you're the type of person who would suggest killing the fattest person in your group so that everyone else can eat them in a survival setting.
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>>4248303
prove it
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>>4248326
Hello, my name is Doctor Abu Singh Aramanyana.
The anon you responded to contacted me so that i could confirm his claim that this is in fact not a magpie.
I know this because i have spent the last 43 years of my life as a magpietropholgist and have personally raised hundreds of magpies from egg to pie.
Now i implore you kind sir to retract your previous statement to avoid further confusion.
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>>4219048
Curses be upon that most deranged female who attempted to commit an act of larceny against the unsuspecting Larus Crassirostris, right as it exited the mercantile establishment with what appears to be a packet containing nothing less than a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich.
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>>4248388
prove it first
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>>4242760

Toucans are so cool
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>>4223272
>Dumb bitch you cant even take care of the kids take this
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>>4226153
Aww poor thing, brave of him to remain sitting there through it all. He must really trust those people.
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>>4226768
Just when he thought his fate was sealed
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>>4248388
Topkeked and checked
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>>4248013
Cope Reddit nigger
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>>4241888
>>4242564
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I'd imagine the fake ones are in the cats' equivalent of the uncanny valley
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>>4236992
Yeah i'm genuinely wondering why the fuck haven't we started yet. Fuck future pessimism and make a reality of techno utopias with uplifted animal bros. Imagine having a non face ripping chimp roommate/housekeeper instead of some glorified roomba with wall projector for amazon ads and a single laggy appendage for accidently dropping your shit on the floor.
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>>4231561
I lost to this





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