>Promotional art ready>Promotional videos ready>Likely merch and/or song on the wayCould UMISEA be any more forced and soulless?I know Hololive sells the delusion that all of the girls get along but Gura doesn't even speak Japanese. She's quiet as a mouse during the actual collab. It's obvious at this point that this group was pushed together as a marketing scheme and nothing more.Are you guys really okay with your oshis being made to do this retarded corporate shit?
>>9821324Aqua is the only outlier when it comes to being connected with the other three.Either way, company does company shit, nothing new. Actors gotta act.
>>9821324You're right but also when has HoloEN ever had soul to begin with
>>9821324>>9821324>Are you guys really okay with your oshis being made to do this retarded corporate shit?I am happy when my oshi is happy. Sample as.
>>9821324Legitimately one of the most soulless and corporate things cover has done.I bet you reddit is eating this shit up as of they're starving, I don't like gura but I feel bad about her pure intentions of wanting to get closer to the jp girls only for cover to just shove this kind of shit down everyone's throat
>>9821324Is this what nijiniggers have been reduced to? This is pathetic even by your standards
>>9821324>>9821324I just hope if they ever come out with an actual anime that it has a good dubI think we can all agree that subs are only for impatient people who don't want to wait for a proper dub
Cover does nothing:>Reeeee cover doesnt support the girlsCover does a fun thing:>Muh soulless corporate shitWhy is vt like this?
>>9821662Huh? What do you mean?
>>9821695If you consider this as "support" then you're a different breed of retard
>>9821324Gura did have legit interest in Aqua since literally-always, like before Gura herself was a Holo. She also was chatting up Marine her first week on the job. If you think literally a year run-up time to this is somehow suddenly forced I dunno what to tell you. If you didn't know those basic facts you literally are running your mouth like a fucking faggot, this actually mostly makes sense to me. Like Gura proposed a collab, JP management thought "hey you know what we can actually make this more than a one off thing just because she asked" and decided to drum it up into something grander.The only thing one could point out as "huh, I dunno why that is" is Ina is there for.. reasons? I don't recall Ina being interested in either of those much, Ina is an overall Hololive fan yeah but she didn't seem particularly close or interested to those two. That one it feels like management thought "hey you know what, Ina being the octopus can be in this too so we have a nice balance of 2 ENs and 2 JPs and she also is probably the closest thing to a translator between Aqua and Gura who both ways almost can't talk to each other at all."
>>9821324Corporate-mandated collabs can be good though, nothing wrong with them alone. Still a really meh collab though, I hope they'll develop better chemistry in the future.
>>9821695Is not the same, instead of forcing 4 vtubers to interact, spend your time trying for example PekoMoon to not disappear because what are antis saying to Moona, wait for actual genuine approaches from EN, ID and JP and do your business after that
>>9821612>I feel bad about her pure intentions of wanting to get closer to the jp girls>he thinks gura cares about her JP coworkers
I can bet money all 4 are having fun and enjoying it all. Why the fuck do I even come here. Want to talk about Soulless? It's this board. Just enjoy shit sometimes.
>>9822032I don't know if Ina is very close with anyone, it's part of her personality. But she can be comfy with anyone.Kiara would be the best translator unless you mean tism translations.I honestly would rather have Gura ganged up on by 3 JPs because that might make the JP side more comfortable and Gura is at her best when she's uncomfortable.Really next time just get 3 chatty JPs and make Gura feel bullied. It would be so much more entertaining. Maybe Mario Party wasn't the best choice.
>No PekoMoon support despite universal appeal>No Holobirds support despite fantastic chemistryHow many other natural inter-branch groups are they ignoring?
>>9822080He’s spiggin it!
I all in on UMISEA just because of the amount of butthurt it's causing.
>>9821324>implying any of them are my oshiWew lad
>>9822237You have to go to generals to see people enjoying streams. Non-general threads are just here to bitch and hate vtubers.
>>9821695stop listening to emotional antis
>>9821324You faggots will never be happy. For months it's, "Why doesn't Gura collab with JP more?" And now that there's an excuse to, you still complain.
>>9821813Fuck off. Seriously.
>>9822228I don't know much about gura so what I said was based on the fact that cumbuds were parading this bullshit as great because gura's favorites are marine and aqua supposedly
>>9821324there's a thread asking what change will you apply if you own hololive.One fag suggested mandatory collab and the replies are all "based" or shit like that.So why are you faggots complaining now?
>>9821324lol are nijiniggers really that threatened cover is actually utilizing their en branch now?
>>9822032ina and marine been trying to arrange a collab since forever. it became a running joke like the iname next week thing.
>>9822446Don't get me wrong, she likes the JPs, she just can't be bothered to do Japanese reps to try and bridge the gap. Most JPs speak better English than she speaks Japanese.
>>9821612Sorry but Anycolor forcing their talents to shill their company on Reddit can't be topped.
>>9821813Cry moar but NijiEN would still remain irrelevant lol
>>9822471(Mostly) Nijifag here. I'm glad they did this collab. They still need to build up some chemistry but I think it's definitely a step in the right direction for Hololive and I hope they keep doing more collabs like this, whether company-mandated or not. People here tend to be too pessimistic about these kinds of things and assume the worst, placing too much blame on Cover and calling Holo management the devil, or saying holos hate each other, etc. Just believe in your oshi, not everything's gonna work out great but corporate vtubing is not as horrible as this board pretend it is.
Umisea is such a shitty name
>>9822504This is very true, I think if would've been better with the holos that speak decent English, I've seen a lot of people say that it would've been better with haachama and Subaru and I can't help but agree.Since they're going the full length of corporate collabs, they might as well do it properly.>>9822572The fact that you think I'm a nijinigger hurts me, so fuck you fag.
To the ones complaining about people complaining, you have encountered shitpostersJust learn to filter the schizos, don’t take bait and mostly only take the opinions of the generals seriously
>>9821324>Promotional art ready>Promotional videos ready>Likely merch and/or song on the way>"Why is a business trying to sell merch?" That's literally how you're supposed to do thingsIf it's not then what's a better business strategy to sell merch?
>>9822858Everyone involved probably agreed with this before hand.They're probably gonna get some handsome merch.Chudbuds are pretending like Cover forced Gura to do any of this.
>>9822481Ah yeah, I almost forgot about that because it was also close to a fucking year ago. So in that context this literally all makes good sense in that we know Gura and Ina had been variously trying to get in touch with these specific Holos for a fucking year already with 0 results. So now there are results and Cover thought it'd be cute to tie them together because coincidentally they're all nautical theme. It isn't so much soulless as they realized it was a coincidental match-up of char designs that'd be cute to make into a little thing.
>>9822858>If it's not then what's a better business strategy to sell merch?Wait for actual real interactions, let people overhype for that moment, when they are prepared for collaborating prepare your art, videos, merch and everything while is on its peak
>>9822959>Chudbuds are pretending like Cover forced Gura to do any of this.I'd bet my legs that Gura was ecstatic to do this.
>>9821324forced collabs are boring but some are okthis shit is garbage because nobody has seen any development between these. en and jp collabs havent had tee-tee stuff or an interesting chemistry so theres no demand of garbage like thisif this shit was an idea of that omega tranny, id be ironically convinced tho
>>9821324I think many underestimate the hesitancy that exists in asking for a collab. Perhaps such caused the formation of this group specifically to attempt to dispel said hesitancy. This might not even be strong-armed; it’s entirely possible that a simple request took this long to accommodate and manifested as this.
>>9823276>en and jp collabs havent had tee-tee stuff or an interesting chemistry so theres no demand of garbage like thisNice way of saying that you don't watch vtubers.
>>9823276What a wrong opinion and assumption of the highest caliber.
i forgot, /vt/ hates vtubers
>people are genuinely upset that Marine the shill, Aqua the product. Gura the numbers, and Ina the gacha slave are used as promo material
>Why doesn't Gura collab with JP, DOES SHE HATE THEM? SHE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT HOLOLIVE>Why does Gura collab with JP, SHE LITERALLY CANT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, GUISE>Cover does nothingWOW COVER IS USELESS>Cover does anythingWOW THIS IS SO FORCED GUISE, LITERALLY SOULLES
>>9821324You fucks are never satisfied
>>9824054>>9824107I'm beginning to think this place is worst than Anti discord at times.
>>9821324>Are you guys really okay with your oshis being made to do this retarded corporate shit?so close
>>9822667I want to breed the panda, wat do?
>>9821324i rike it
>>9821324>Put together 4 girls purely because they're "water?" themed (one is a maid and another an Eldritch priestess btw)>They can barely communicate, 3 of the 4 are cripplingly shy>The EN talents had JP members they were getting close to naturally, but this now shoehorns them into these collabs instead of organic ones (Shion getting double cucked)
>>9824334>>9824054>>9824107/vt/ is full of contrarian faggots, what a surprise.
>>9824397>(shion getting double cucked)Hot as fuck
>>9824397You fo know that Shion and Gura and collab eventually right? This doesn't change anything.
How new are you? We have shit ton of songs with girls that aren't friends. At least for this song we get some extra.The only soulless thing about it is the decision to put 3 ultra entertaining girls with Ina, that's the only rational thing people could have a problem with.
>>9824589>The only soulless thing about it is the decision to put 3 ultra entertaining girls with InaNot gonna lie you had me in the first half.
Wait do people not like it for real? I couldn't watch it last night because of work, but I'm watching the archive now and it's comfy as hell. Am I autistic?
>>9824717>comfyNot only are you autistic, you also can't say why you like it
>>9822542They're not forcing anyone, if that was the case they'd ask Kuzuha or Mito to do it. Not the lesser popular ones like Akane. Maybe you're foreign to this concept since Cover was forcing every single one of their talents to simulcast their streams on bilibili before the Taiwan fiasco happened, but livers can choose not to follow corporate mandates like these.
>>9824054More likeCover when needed for something. >I sleep.Some higher up: "I had an idea">real shit!emphasis on "real shit"
>>9824760The only autistic one around here is you, my guy
>>9824717Partly some EN fans worried about their oshi being outshone, the rest is shitposting by the regulars.
A-chan would have been a better fit as part of the group than Gura really. She has blue hair, close enough to the ocean theme.
>>9824928A-chan is staff, not an idol nigger.
Why the fuck newfags come to /vt/ and ask what people like about the collabs???
What else you expected? Ever since EN1 happened it was obvious COVER started caring about nothing but money (look at forced and failed Takamori), and EN2 immediately having its own merch that no one buys.
hololive is the capeshit of vtubers
>cover doesn't do anythingFuck cover!>cover does somethingFuck cover!
This is what they've always wanted, Gura is a huge fan of Aqua as she always have said, Marine and Ina respect each other and their collab has been one of the most requested things. They have mentioned plenty of off stream interactions with Marine. You don't actually watch streams. Speaking of their next collab is definitely gonna be gartic phone. Things can't happen "organically" when there is a huge language barrier, you have to have this kind of organization beforehand. A-chans whole part with this unit is to try and remedy it.
>>9824054>>9824107Ayyyyy.Another normal day in /vt/ bros.
>>9826505>Cover does something SHITI DUNNO WHY ARE YOU ALL COMPLAINING, ISN'T THIS WHAT YOU WANTED?
>>9824054I feel like people are forcing this narrative that COVER actually did anything to initiate this when in fact it was more like Gura, Marine, and Ina have probably been wanting to get something done together for the longest time now. With Aqua probably wrangled in.
>>9826505There's no winning with tribalfags and schizos. Both of those groups are also mind readers so they know exactly what goes on in talents heads.
I'm actually not against it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with helping the talents break the ice between themselves if they're having trouble reaching out to others by giving them an excuse to work together. If a genuine friendship comes out of it, then cool; if it sells, even better. If not, then everyone is a slightly closer acquaintance at the very least thanks to a fun little project.
>COVER DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE TALENTS THE TALENTS HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING THEMSELVES>does all this shit to support a group of members who've been trying to get together for the past year and have expressed interest in each other many times but have had trouble due to the language barrier and lack of initiative>FORCED CORPORATE SHILLING, COMPANY-MANDATED THEY ALL HATE EACH OTHERI hate this board.
>>9830224dilate and have sex
The problem isn’t the collab was mandated by cover. The problem is it wasn’t given time to naturally develop before being pushed for merch.If management pushes them to do a collab together and it ends up being a dud what now? Too bad theres already a unit name and promotional goods looks like everyone is stuck.Fake unity is just souring the experience of real unity.
>>9821324Fuck you ina's voice acting was god tier, and i am grateful i got to see this side of her.
>>9821324This is literally the most soulless thing I have ever seen, cover should be ashamed.Now I gotta go watch Peko and Subaru sing for the ramen people or shill Dragon warrior.
>>9821324op smells like a bug
>>9821324Despite all the schizos ranting here this is a good move by Cover management. Holofans will eat it up, especially those in JP, and they'll make a lot of money in new merch.
>>9822819They're not baiting. They actually think this way. People are legitimately losing their minds over this.
>>9821324I don't even see any of this shit since it's on the en end and I don't have any of them followed. Maybe autism and horny can siphon up some greasy mutt money.
>>9832756even despite that, it will get the two sides more used to working with eachother, leading to an expansion in the varieties of fun for the fans.
>>9822481Right, this was around the INA IS BANNED FROM COLLABS rrat.
>>9822323by the looks of it, all of them.
>>9821324i don't like it, it smells management mandated decission for the sole reason to sell merch.since when Cover shifted from managing the talents to control them.
My oshi shouldn't be forced to do this shit, one collab was already bad enough.
you guys need to kys once for all, you are not welcome here
YES COVER I LOVE YOU, YOU CAN DO NO WRONG LET ME SUCK YOUR COCK HOW DARE ANYONE QUESTION YOUCOCO WHO?
This thread is full of seething Nijiniggers. I'm gonna go watch the cute collab again. Go jerk off to some shitty male vtubers Nijiniggers.
>>9821324>they don't do enough - Cover is terrible >they do a lot - it's soullessThere is no pleasing you people.
>>9822504She literally asked what the japanese word for STAR is
>>9821324This is... kinda shit content, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. Hope they keep trying this type of thing.
>This thread is full of seething Nijiniggers. I'm gonna go watch the cute collab again. Go jerk off to some shitty male vtubers Nijiniggers.
>>9837538it's not "doing a lot" it's "forcing a collab"
>>9838702>This thread is full of seething Nijiniggers. I'm gonna go watch the cute collab again. Go jerk off to some shitty male vtubers Nijiniggers.
>>9840504>forcing a collabwhere
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this the first time that Cover did something like this? Making a "trasversal" group that involves multiple gens and branches around a theme? Maybe this is an experiment for them, and they decided to start with the "sea" themed group because it involves Gura, Marine and Acqua, three vtubers powerhouses. I think that if this goes well, it's not unlikely that we could get Holobirds, PekoMoon or other themed groups like this with their own merchandise and songs.
>>9842551If we're strictly speaking about Cover formally organizing a sub unit around a theme, then yes. Otherwise, this isn't even the first sub unit created by Cover. On the theme front, I believe Halloween Night girls did this a year ago for that song.
>>9822357Why even are the /vt/ autists butthurt about this project anyway?
>>9843243Because being happy isn't allowed outside of generals.
Now that I think about it why are they making this like a promotional thing? It’s just 4 bitches interacting I don’t even get the big deal.
>>9821324"soulless" is a forced word though