Thread to discuss the virtual singers of this industry. Originals, covers, utawakus, lives, etc., post them all here.Previous: >>9513445Quick vsinger primer: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTBi4uaMG51lP8VQRTWpV1FE2itlmFAziaaeVOt1e5O-g7OksrVCgCEJ5FL5FUf40LpzJoZ1KUPdv3Q/pubUpcoming Lives9/18: Domyoji Cocoa Birthday Live 2021「Statice」 https://riotmusic-live.zaiko.io/e/statice9/18-9/20: Life Like a Live! 2 https://www.zan-live.com/en/live/detail/100999/26: TUBEOUT! Vol.11 ELSE x HACHI https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21092618-TO1110/1-10/3: Virtual Tokyo Idol Festival 2021 http://www.idolfes.com/2021/vtif/10/2: ViANKiE 1st One-Man Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QVvJH_vIM10/2: Figaro 1st One-man Live『秘色 -Hisoku-』 https://www.zan-live.com/en/live/detail/1011710/12: Tsunomaki Watame 1st Live "Watame Night Fever!! in Zepp Tokyo" https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21101202-engwatame10/16: HIMEHINA LIVE 2021「希織歌と時鐘」 https://himehina.jp/pages/special?t=live2021_kiryca10/16: SugarLyric 2nd One Man Live https://twitter.com/SugarLyric_PI/status/143054264464871014610/21: Hoshimachi Suisei 1st Solo Live "STELLAR into the GALAXY" https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21102102-engsuisei10/23: TUBEOUT! Vol.12 VESPERBELL/BOOGEY VOXX https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21102318-TO1210/23: Isekai Joucho 1st ONE-MAN LIVE 「Anima」 https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1435228425266995203/photo/111/6: Mirai Akari 4th Anniversary Live『Mi:LIVE 2021』 https://nissin-ps.com/live/detail/effd5d4311/16: Tsukino Mito 1st One-Man Live「箱の中」 https://event.nijisanji.app/tsukino_hakononaka/11/19-11/21: GEMS COMPANY 3rd Live "CHANGENOWAVE!!!!" https://twitter.com/gems_company/status/142906595333829017811/23: VALIS 1st ONE-MAN LIVE「拡張メタモルフォーゼ」 https://ubgoe.com/projects/4711/27: CocoTsuki Project 1st Real Live [CLOVERS] https://www.cocotsuki.com/1st-reallive-clovers12/11: MaiR 2nd One-Man Live https://camp-fire.jp/projects/view/44814812/17: KMNZ 1st ONEMAN LIVE https://fanbeats.jp/projects/22012/28: TUBEOUT!FES -2021 WINTER- https://twitter.com/TUBEOUT/status/1431954023297413125
Nia piano in 20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUcEVQlQM9gLet's try to not die this time!
>>9733289Gomen, I forgot that today was going to be another high speed day. Reposting the full Rewind and Reunion.https://mega.nz/file/4MxCCRQR#wNdHlfRif-a7mzoA8LZ1IL8sOtahKti9T5u26x2D948
finally finished watching all the stages for tubeoutthis was really cute. also hachi confirmed really small. she's even smaller than mair.https://streamable.com/ruwjc4
>>9737835Made me curious, so I went back to check the Last V Standing with her, and MaiR is half a head shorter then AZKi when they're standing back to back, and that's fairly consistent with Hachi being half a head smaller then MaiR when she's around AZKi's shoulders. You can also tell the models are likely fairly accurate with how they don't clip or come up short when they go to touch hands, so Hachi really is imagine tier.
>>9738296did hachi have a proper debut live stream? she has no height info on the official pages.
>>9738957A quick check of Playboard shows that she only has one deleted video as far as it remembers, and that was just a teaser for Hikari so probably never occurred to her because she'd been streaming on Reality forever and had done a couple of collabs on YT before finally moving herself.
>love Sora>indifferent towards Azki>indifferent towards IrysSimple as
>>9742168Touhou is dead
gimmie your best opera covers, /vsinger/
>>9746033It's already in the primer but basically Chimahttps://youtu.be/sQY5nx8y3JAhttps://youtu.be/5z39--ZYaes
>>9746033https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oaGBeaNK7Qhttps://youtu.be/oNOhalk_62w?t=2345It's a shame libro doesn't upload more then once in a blue moon.
>>9734912Rewatching this, I wonder if Hachi playing with her hair is just a nervous tick. In her Live, she was always touching her ear and I assumed it was because the headphone mic she was wearing were falling off, but she does it it again quite a few times.
Astel sang Circle of Life today and I was kinda impressed.https://youtu.be/sU-92B36Im4?t=4223
>>9734912Maybe I'm new but how do you download such a big file from mega that won't trigger the data cap?
>>9753451yeah, it will run into the data cap. you just have to leave the page open for 3-4hrs until the cap times out if you don't have an account.
Anoter original by Ciel tomorrowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDLFNttpXgU
Cocotsuki singing streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rl8l5bZhxg
>>9738957>[EN]AZKi:I heard that HACHI-chan is about 150cm tall.Also, AZKi mentioned that they talked about doing a collab, so fingers crossed.
Man... I miss the original Cocoa
Huh, AZKi mentioned that that there is secret DLC for her 2nd album that includes the Aoi Yume acoustic version. Wonder if the link on the album page where you put in the keyword still works, since I can't find anywhere that has the files online.
Rene cover - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jobEXZ_axG8>>973072310/2-10/3 October Fashttps://twitter.com/itoitoi0715/status/1437665136290848771Looks to be a relay style event with a bunch of small names getting 30 minutes to show off. Only name I recognize is 88nia, but checking a random other on the list in Metamoe wasn't bad either. Seems like a good way to find new people if you're into that.
https://twitter.com/edo_lena/status/1437778684694482957Edo released the line up of people who worked on her upcoming album. Bunch of faces I recognize, should be pretty hype.
>>9771213Metamoe is already in the primer, and yes she is very interesting. Her voice can switch between feathery softness (as in All the way), overt harshness (as in Usseewa), and whatever this ishttps://twitter.com/MetamoeProject/status/1424724397206609922Her cover of U has her switching voices on the fly. She's very entertaining to listen to.
Fucking hell why nobody talked about HACHI in any other thread? I found her too late. She just blow every fucking hack away. She is the only one that can sing Aimer's songs without making me wanting to rip my ears out.
>>9777801She was adopted by /mori/ from my shilling and used to get the occasional mention in Global before we got an entire board to use, anon.
>>9777906I seldom go global back in the days, let alone mori, but why would an ENfags talk about vsinger though? I thought everyone there were satisfy with """"""vsinger""""""" Irys?Also from her donations it seems like a lot of Taiwanese like her too.
>>9778007Because she's friends with AZKi and Boogey Voxx, and that made her tangentially on topic enough for me to talk about her. She was also pretty heavily featured during Don't Stop the Music which a surprising amount of people watched.
>>9777801It's fine this way, holofans aren't into vsingers anyway and will trash up their chat the same way they pollute the vsinger threads.Her streams were occasionally linked in the main /jp/ thread and it's safe to assume deaf anons would rather listen to Rin lulz
>>9778139>Don't Stop the MusicI only have the list for the second one and it is only one song which is Beyond the Light.>she's friends with AZKi If they really collab and sing together then all the other vsinger will just instantly get obsoleted and Suisei will become just a stardust (I still like her though).
>>9778231I think the only weakness of her is that she cannot rap. Loki for example, not her best performance. Even Delta sing better Loki than her. Otherwise she is really solid.
>>9778306AZKi performed Beyond the Light during her concert section, Hachi was featured in the VMDJ section, and all three of her originals at the time were played; Beyond, Rainy Proof, and 20. The bee was pretty well spotlighted, with Rainy Proof even being played twice since it was in the VMDJ section and a normal one.
>>9778231I have never seen anyone praising Rin’s singing.
>>9777801/vsinger/ connoisseurs are still few but eventually grow, because once you listen to good vsingers, you can't unhear it. I recommend you listen to Chima and check out others in the OP's linked list.
nayuta song release tonight at 7PM.https://twitter.com/7utauta/status/1437898961281433601
Saki Akuma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pusJGAe7JpcQuonTama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvAdH0Ecn20
Piero shorthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhNaUdZhY1oPinahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fVfTDA7W54Cocoahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaKg8p8ro6IIn other news Laz got a 3D model
Youtube just randomly recommended Kanduki Ama to me. She has not been mentioned here before. Here is her live cover of Kanade. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5EXvZdgmkk&t=3071sSo what do you guys think about her? IMO she is decent and quite on-pitch. I guess her shortcomings would be that she lacks a decent vibrato, and other tricks that would make her singing more fancy
Saki is streaming her recording processI love this kind of thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIKIRxL5Pn0
>>9806675In case people don't know, here is a sheet of all songs Saki has sung.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1byjwugEZYRKWKR9D8x6WLNAnxnlpmYcdeH6LOrVFhn8/edit#gid=0Whenever I check for covers, I always start with Hachi and Saki. Chances are they have covered all the popular songs.I like Saki because she is a very versatile singer across very different types of songs.Preserved Roses, Shangri-la, シルシ, 猫, I will always love you..... are all impressive. My biggest complaint is her audio setup which sounds cheap and muffled (though not as bad as how Chima's setup used to be). I wish people would tell her about it. Get whatever Chima or Hachi is using.
>>9780027Chima's kinda overrated though.
>>9810369Feel free to offer better recommendations so we can listen to more good vsingers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3W5aOiAf_c&t=2087s
>>9810704She failed the Aimer test, at least for me. Listen to a few and feel like her talent and skills are comparable to Suisei's.
>>9815228I would just disagree there. Suisei doesn't sing opera and sentimental ballads the way Chima does, not even close.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z39--ZYaesThe comparison is also tenuous because Suisei power sings each note instead of smoothly transitioning between them, so her studio covers are usually intense songs like Ghost. While Chima is buttery smooth between syllabes. They are so different in strengths that you may as well compare Sinatra to Bob Dylan.Aimer is a strange thing to focus on when neither Chima nor Suisei is the best at that kind of music. If you just focus on your own fixation, you get a corresponding impression of the singers.
>>9815228If you just want an Aimer vsinger just listen to Inuihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl95zSvqWqUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzdsaXemBWMHere's some live renditions of Kataomoi if you don't want recorded covershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htOXw_xTAvohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkEcziLcZvQ
>>9818356I did not expect that voice and singing with that design.
Ryushen/Genzuki/Uiha group karaokehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maVNSr9i26Q
>>9810148Do you have a sheet of all songs HACHI sang? I remember her having a Youtube stream copyrighted when her total YT streams were still in the single digits and from then on her song selection became less diverse. If you have a list and a copy of that particular live we can appreciate some sharing but it's fine if you don't have one.
>>9786903nayuta 贖罪 (Shuzui) cover https://youtu.be/6B4R2R2aniAperfect for her voice
>>9821936>CielDidn't expect it would be that kind of song. I dig it.
If any small-time vsinger got a sore throat, then they’re fucked.
Kizuna announcing new concerthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmgMQn5JEU4Nanohahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jm6MVYkrkQRIMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGAeg26l6_MYuires shorthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkXCfvBZRKs
>>9820508Sure the Hachi list is here.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EvZoVZ61cV2DLx5nTZQDtacOHlE-0ivwtWUeNcLfOx0/edit#gid=0I think we have shared it here before.
MiMi is such a great singer
Bit late, but Sou singing stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3FZ6oUMDM8
https://youtu.be/W7_2QX8UDIQShirane Yuki karaoke
>>9824210Doesn't have this, was on Hachi's Youtube channel 5/3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUZ3-fKMouAhttps://twitter.com/8HaChi_hacchi/status/1256986835030437889Does anyone know an alternative bili front end?https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1i541147Yv
>>9803334Who did it better?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaKg8p8ro6Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOYEKiiFJCw
>>9829796The older singer had a softer voice and more diverse tones, but she suffered from a cheap audio setup and terrible mixing. The newer version sounds much clearer but the singer uses the same sharp tone throughout.
>>9829796>Asking the obviousThe chinese knockoff can never compare.
Ririysa has been doing a singing to 60k stream for the past 4 hours, only 100 away at this point.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P6wjLmytYE
>>9818704>mehAlthough I wanna dismiss her but her voice is really good. Nijisanji has lots of subpar streamers that I forgot it offers more people that can actually sing compare to hololive.
Suzuna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYRHi00my8Shino x Wolf Syun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImYMRoafGE
>>9833350That Guren no Yumiya is rather disappointing for some reason. Let's see how other vsingers sing it.
>>9816789I chose Aimer because her songs are actually harder to sing than it looks and lots of vtubers can't sing it properly, even the easier ones like Kataomoi. Sure they have different styles but it is an easy way to filter out good and bad singers.
>>9835294Nah, what you filter out are people who can sing Aimer to your liking and people who can't. If I pick opera as the metric then I don't filter out good & bad singers; I filter out people who can sing opera to my liking and people who can't. And it turns out, unsurprisingly, that many vsingers can't, but that doesn't mean they can't sing other kinds of music well. Or using Ado songs as the metric for instance. In fact, there even are more established reasons to care about opera rather than an arbitrary Jpop artist, as they teach classical singing and vocal techniques. But it is still not the final test.
>>9835121Hmm, so far I haven't found a Guren no Yumiya cover that I really like. Something that is both raw and epic. Stella and Chima's voices are too light for the feeling I want.The closest are CocoTsuki and Astelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIjlED2sGoA&t=938shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9VwIZEf-1g&t=3373s I'm somewhat surprised Saki has not covered the song before.
After pointing out idols aren't singers, later you'll read pure filth that not rapping is somehow a weakness. Or that triangle sings Loki better. She still has to learn how to miss fewer notes before you can start comparing two individuals from such a huge skill gap.>>9780027>>9836000I agree, using arbitrary measures such as "can't sing properly" "too light" "not raw and epic" failing to point out what's the exact issue is pure idiocracy. Using pop studio covers as a metric expecting to be as close to identical to the original as possible. I can only imagine this anon would only like a karaoke of this song if it had the exact same vocal filters used live.Do you have anyone else in mind who can sing opera aside from Chima? Sopranos, whistling and male Pavarotti lites welcome too.https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=RZ5jXn0o8qM
>>9829796cocoa sucks, as do all the riot girls.
>>9839656>Do you have anyone else in mind who can sing opera aside from Chima?The common opera singer brought up is ironmouse.
>>9839656I don't think we've discovered any new ones (or at least I don't know). But just to summarize: Libro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oaGBeaNK7QNina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgDMD8rMIlo&t=724sFlores (graduated) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7dbCnymx2YIronmouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtp4h4KQGGMSora https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNOhalk_62w&t=2345sYour opinions may vary.
>>9839656You may be conflating different people. There is someone who thinks not singing Aimer the way he wants implies bad singing. While the other wants to find a deep voice for a song but doesn't imply those who don't have it are bad.
>>9840418>>9839656Nina sang Cara Mia from Portal 2 recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg30_40RNdo&t=909sIts pretty great!
>>9840418There's also Eggy, but she streams on Twitch so VODs aren't eternal and there's no timestamps, which is annoying for musical chuubas. Pretty good, though.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1133165617?t=00h20m11s
>>9846532Why doesn't she just make these actual covers and release them as such instead of meme videos? Its already better mixed than the shit Yura's been putting out.It'd get much further out if she just threw on a basic editted cover image and titled it that,
>>9846649At least she's gonna do endurance stream with all of them later, hopefully using full versions
Gura is actually singing freestyle jazz. More vsingers should do such freestyle variations instead of just sticking to the original songs.
>>9848753Not even freestyle, any sort of variation on songs in general is depressingly rare even in cases where changing one word makes the song fit singer way better
Madoka streaming yet again. Girl has been cranking these out. Don't look at how badly her cleavage is rigged, though, unless you want to laugh.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36u-abbcudY
A shame I'm going to be asleep, but Luci is doing a singing stream tonight. Guess I should set up to archive it since she's had a few that she baleeted lately.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3nQHJMdDM8
>>9873874I have a thing for handsome girls
Ratio 'Butter' cover https://youtu.be/mJQrYCGsGKs
>>9874621That was pretty good.
Hachi guerilla in an hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj0HizQWd2U
>>9864532Lucy is just too good. I live in her archives
>>9879647>Lucy is just too goodyes>I live in her archivesyes, because her vids always go down
>>9879647Those jojos man those jojosWay too good
>>9879647luci's sono chi no sadame has to be one of the best renditions ive ever listened to from a vtuber, holy fuck
>>9876200God damn. That's probably one of the best Ado covers, right next to Ci from Boogey Voxx. Makes sense since Yomi has that powerful voice with a strong bite like Ado does, but I'm sad she doesn't do live singing to see just how much of it is her and how much is studio magic.
>>9877522This stream is a fucking blessing.
>>9877522Gigglebee SC bullying ASMR
Do you guys following vsinger from bili2 or overseas vsinger too?
>>9882814I have a couple of Western ones I follow, since they upload to Youtube, but I don't want to go through the effort of remembering to check another platform. There are a couple that I keep tabs on Youtube that also stream on bili as well, but I only know because they mention it/have it on their schedule.
>>9882814The whole site uses mostly text UI, I couldn't even if I wanted toAlso streams there don't work for me
>>9805316Ah, I'm rather surprised that she got mentioned here. Found her in my subs and so just ended up listening to her karaoke whenever I have the timePersonally, feels like she's in the same boat as Aoi from Prism, great in the fundamentals but lacking tricks like you mentioned earlier. If I remember, she's also one of utaites-turned-vtubers from NND migrating over to YT because NND is still stuck in the 2000s kek
>>9883732What's her utaite handle? Her chara design, the head in particular sucks.
>>9883856Seems to be the same. She moved her covers from NND to her sub channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCHW-xG9JKL-J5fu5hf2hyw/
Why are over 5k people watching Hachi? That's hololive-tier number.
Were Hachi's n*mbers always that high? She was consistently below 1000 like a month ago.
>>9884372Why not?>>9884400She wasn’t. She had 3-4k constantly last month, unless she was streaming games.
>>9880511>Likes interacting witch chat>Has DVR enabled>On normal delayI don't get her
>>9884400TW clip popped off. Notice how a big majority of the superchats are NTD
>>9884251I prefer her REALITY avatar. A bit too square, looks like a purple meguca.
>>9884372>>9884400a taiwanese channel that normally did hololive translated clips and some other vtubers clipped her singing and it got huge numbers, after that she probably has been getting favored by the algorithm I have a normal nonvtuber yt account and saw some of her songs in my recommendations when looking into normal japanese artists
>>9884372Big incline from a viral clip, sings regularly enough for the algorithm to push her while not polluting her channel with too many games so people engage with all of her streams, and she's an amazing singer to retain all of those viewers.>>9884452I get the feeling she's a very artsy person who doesn't really understand tech from watching her streams evolve over time, so you might want to mention to her in a slower stream.
>>9884539She also opened membership, and my purely anecdotal experience is that you get pushed much harder by Youtube if you have membership, since I get recommended a bunch of tiny fucking channels on my homepage that have membership. Was quite the perfect storm, and it couldn't happen to someone more deserving.
>>9884522Avatar design doesn't really filter me if they can sing well, for example Nanamiya Sou
>>9884946I understand not caring about visuals, since I'm not looking at the stream half the time, but you don't like hers? It's not a 10/10 knock out, but it's reasonably well rigged, expressive, and nice to look at.
>>9885025Personal preference from the visuals. I do agree on the rigging though, it's certainly well done.
Will Hachi ever do an unarchived karaoke where she sings songs without worrying about copyright? I want to hear more songs.
>>9885357Watch her preYT streams.
>>9885492What notable new songs would those have?
Hachi general when?
>>9886063The nature of vsingers is that we focus on their singing instead of drama, so there is not that much posting. It is hard enough to keep this thread alive, so I don't yet see a need for hachi's own thread.
>>9886063Do you really want more retards in the thread? We already have some >>9886132
>>9886350Retards are often simps who support your oshi.
New Watame originalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZcK802kV4Not as good as her preceding two, but the breakdown and following parts have hints of greatness.
Trinity album crossfade https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c2aiOzzwtE
>>9887120She's really working hard on her singing, huh. I really admire that hard work. As long as she keeps following this path, I'm sure nothing but greatness awaits her. I'll keep on buying her songs to help her out
>>9884548What was her viral clip?
I thought this was a really fantastic cover by Luci today, her deep voice is so sexy https://youtu.be/i3nQHJMdDM8?t=4339https://files.catbox.moe/651vov.mp3
>>9889009Yea, I was really blown away by her doing I See The Light last month, and managing to do both the male and female parts, switching between the two voices on the fly. She's pretty stellar at working in her lower range.https://youtu.be/JHuysBnwxEg?t=2685
>>9889491I was blown away by Hello from that same stream. She can barely sing most of the words but her voice and passion shines through. I really love Luci's singing. It's definitely not the best technically but she puts her heart into it and most of all she's really unique. Can't think of too many folks who sound like her.
>>9889736This world needs more Altos and Basses.
>>9889736While she's a bit of a menhara if you follow her Twitter, Luci's singing reminds me of Yue though she doesn't go low that often, but they both have that very smokey, lounge singer style. It's a shame she seems to want to cover the most strange things that don't actually show off that she's a fairly good singer. Just have to dig through her unlisted streams, but at least she keeps them in a playlist unlike some people.https://youtu.be/1Mbknflugl4?t=8671https://youtu.be/Dbt3DNmR884?t=934
>>9890574>While she's a bit of a menhara if you follow her Twitter>a bitI like her too, but let's not kid ourselves.
>>9891034Look, rampant self hatred is just part of the artist experience, and her only real self destructive behavior is the smoking, so it's better to understate then over.
>>9891580Is this you?
>>9891580Could work on your enunciation, which syllables to stress better and whatnot. You also can't hold notes for shit, so work on that.
>>9891683Nope. Just wanted to see if my music taste is good or nah, I felt like there's a lot wrong with the cover. But I know nothing about music and recently found vtubers singing. >>9891728Oh thank god, it wasn't just me thinking that.
>>9891831>Its not me>only 30 views>half is probably from this threadsure anon.
>>9891580Probably needed to start in a lower key, since you can hear how badly squished it is when they try to go to a higher range at the end. Agree that it's offnote when trying to hold them, the enunciation is pretty bad, and the heavy handed application of pitch correction leads to it sounding worse then if it were just naturally not perfect, with really strange moments at 2:15-ish. It also sounds like they tried to record the audio with a mic intended for just talking which leads to some weird artifacts and probably why the enunciation sounds so weird, and it's fairly nasally whenever trying to go falsetto for some extra range. The Watame's lullaby is better, but I think in both cases they're a bit low on most notes.
>>9891728>You also can't hold notes for shit, so work on that.What's the best strategy for that?
>>9892008I'm sure there's a bunch of vocal coaches with videos on Youtube, but the most basic thing is to make sure you're standing up with good posture because if you're as short as breath as that song sounded, you'd get winded walking up the stairs. You also don't have to do the entire song in one take, you do multiple takes of each verse and stitch the best ones together.
>>9892008What this anon >>9892176 said, many FREE resources are available on youtube and if you really tried have used a search engine of your own accord.Formal lessons aren't really necessary especially for pop tier songs. Find someone in your family or friend that are skilled singers/musicians. What they will teach you can be found online as we've mentioned earlier but having someone give you direction personally helps.Record your voice, for some less experieced individuals are unable to hear if they are on tune live but with practice can solve your tone deafness. Listen to the recording after and the majorty of the population can tell themselves if their own recording is out of pitch. You can't? grab your recorder and an instrument, play the notes in order and try to sing the same notes in a similar manner. Do this repeatedly until you're confident you're on tune then show someone who cares, give yourself a pat on the back as you've finished the first step and are now on par with preschoolers before they learned the G Clef.If none of these worked you may unfortunately be part of the smallest minority with the terminal case of being musically inept, or you you just plain consider learning to be too much of a trouble and a waste of time. In either case stick to rap, claim they are songs and idols are singers.>>9891831Very believable anon, I'm definitely not laughing and you can say that with a straight face.
Makes me wonder:How well can /vsinger/ themselves sing?What tier would you put yourself on?
>>9894821Low as fuck tier, give me something to sing.
>>9894821I don't think I sang a single thing in my lifeNaturally it means that I'm singing virgin and my first song will have elevated value
>>9894821I can't sing seriously for shit, most I have done is adding my voice to /v/ and /vt/ sings recently
>>9894878Caro mio benIf you're serious, your favorite vocaloid song.
>>9895213https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE6_m7mXy1MHow'd I do?
>>9895497Eigo jouzu, daisenpai.
>>9894821It's been over a decade since I did any formal singing, so I'd be super rusty, but I still remember the basics, so maybe average tier at best.
>>9899684Thought it was Rikka from the thumbnail, but MZM are pretty prolific with collabs, and Kotone has been in quite a few as well after her album released, Polka and Nene springing to mind.
>>9882225I think i still prefer Hanatan's Odo cover. The Boogey cover had better growls but i think the male parts just kinda ruined it for me. Hana does live sing on twitcast and is worth going to that platform just to listen to her.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fvyD0Q1YL0
>>9894821was in choir and had some basic training but haven't really practised in a long time. i did send recording for /vt/ sings. so at least that tier?
>>9864532>she did the Real Folk BluesI fucking love this woman.
>>9901292Is Hanatan about to become a vtuber? She's already a pngtuber.
Found some dude doing karaoke, sounds pretty much like a girl too which is pretty impressive, does singing in concert style too which is neathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_twQiwU7awAlso Nia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ5aCS2JGkk
>>9905557The trap gimmick is interesting but the singing is just bad.
>>9908499Mostly posted because of the thing where he's singing standing with full model, apparently he does it every time which is pretty neat and I wish others would copy him but I can understand why it's not popular
Is it because nijisanji has a lot of vtubers that it has more people that can sing compare to hololive? Barely anyone from holoJP can sing well.
>>9910437They also used to be the big dick company while Holo was a footnote until Gen3/4, so if you were talented you applied to Niji. Their shotgun approach also certainly does mean that they've got more good singers as well, and you also have Niji having ties to Sony which means it's easier to secure a record deal, whereas even AZKi does all of her stuff without the help of a traditional record label and everyone else, bar Sora, has to handle it themselves.
Pinahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWv63DJJut4Not exactly related but YAOSABI released new song which will probably get covered plentyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJQ9ig_d8yY
So, is Chima still the best vsinger out there by a large margin?
>>9915477according to who?
>>9915477I honestly can't stand her singing style. She may have a proper technique and sure she can sing arias and stuff, but goddamn she sounds like an annoying rat
>>9915477I'd say Hachi has a bit more versatile voice while Chima is more specialized. Though both their repertoires leave plenty of holes for other vsingers to fill.As for any possible comparison, the top names have a song they shine at so comparison is difficult. You will have more valid answers if you restrict to specific songs.
Irys, yes or no?
>>9917516She's amazing streamer but her official covers are pretty bland, she does well on karaokes lately tho
>>9915477Isn't she quite literally a one trick pony?
>>9917639>>9917516The goblin face tho
>>9917516She's above average but no. I don't know what it is but she's just not for me. Same with Azki.
>>9917865>she's just not for me. Same with Azki.Same for me. The only competent singers in hololive are probably Suisei and the Shark.
>>9917516Technically competent, a pleasant but not amazing voice that has some flaws, but she needs to learn how to do more then just hit the notes. She picked some very emotional songs, with Inochi and Palette in particular, to cover and she wasn't able to convey those emotions in her singing. Her first karaokes were similar where she was nice to listen to, but I'd describe her as the MIDI instruments of singing where there wasn't much personality or inflection on her singing. Maybe she's got better since then as she's relaxed but I've got enough other things to listen to that I haven't cared enough to find out.I'm also going to meme on her for>HoloEN>originals in Japaneseespecially since she didn't put on a translated subtitle, when someone like Watame does.
>>9918287It's not great when an EN company singing project is doing less for their EN base than a JP that has to manage her own music, even if Watame is built different.
>>9918276Shark isn't even top 5.
>>9920100Then who are hololive top 5 singers?
>>9917516Her earlier karaokes sounded bland (probably because she was hyper focused on not fucking up and concentrated on just hitting the notes) but ever since she loosened up & relaxed she’s had some really excellent renditions of some songs.One Last Kiss, Inochi no Namae, Secret of My Heart & La La La Love Song are a few of some beautiful covers that was sung passionately in recent karaokes. Sometimes she still is bland but when it’s a hit it’s fantastic. I do have a soft spot for her crystal clear intonation as well.
are we back at the power level faggotry time loop again? There's more to a singer than just the tone of their voice, people
>>9920172Adding to this, I also think her official covers so far are pretty meh. Technicallygood but something’s missing there.Live singing is where she really shines. Maybe she’ll get an official cover later on which showcases her emotional singing better.
>>99201611. Sora2. Yogiri3. AmeOnly Sora and Yogiri are good singers. Ame is in the list purely because she has soul.
>>9920161It's a big list of people that are better, anon. Suisei, Sora, AZKi, IRyS, Watame, Shion, Matsuri and even fucking Towa sing better than your overrated shark.
On an interesting note, Homura is that one song everyone has sung, so here are some versions. Pick your most favorite (note that this is just one song, and does not necessarily imply their overall skills).Chima https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGXBdb7F4-A&t=3322sHachi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNUK9PVDiK8&t=5792sMiCosmic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdxUjQBOB6Y&t=1649sCocoTsuki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnt4J9WMMg&t=1922sSaki Akuma https://streamable.com/u2cuu8Suisei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwULYAP7nt0Irys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHIOn67MQcwIn my (subjective) opinion, the worst version for me is Irys. As people say, her voice becomes super nasal during the higher notes instead of opening up like all the others. The 2nd worst for me is Suisei, because she keeps dropping syllables halfway instead of holding and smoothly transitioning. But choosing the best is a closer contest. Hachi is, as always, solid throughout, but there are bits I like from the others more.
>>9920583Spotted the island bug, mutated species from the mainland bug.
>>9920876Suisei is in my list bruh...
>>9921395You weren't asking for a list of people that excluded Suisei, so why wouldn't she be in it?
>>9921557Technically true. Just realised that you are bashing my taste on Shark but not Suisei. Maybe Shark's singing is not as good but personally I like her karaoke better than others. The song list might has some influence in it though.
>>9921359NTA but here some chink for youhttps://youtu.be/q0EdbfCXOOk (eine & nana7mi)https://youtu.be/aUzCfBSj9H0 (eine & shaun)https://youtu.be/teWi1pG524Y (shaun & aza)https://youtu.be/3aXxPUOWoHY (eine, nox, jinxy)
>>9915477Chima can sing, but is one dimensional. It's probably the reason why this chink ain't popular.
>>9920876>>9920161Not the anon, but bear in mind the existence of contrarians who feel the need to shit on Gura because she is overrated elsewhere, so their opinions aren't reliable. Also, Gura's best repertoire (Titanium, Baka Mitai, etc.) is different from other vsingers (let alone hololivers). And her freestyle jazz is a nice thing not many others have done. Gura's actual problem (as opposed to cringe hyperbole from contrarians), is the inconsistency in her performance (due to lack of practice or seriousness). For instance, compare her famous Baka Mitai and robotic Lemon. They may as well be 2 different singers. The closest good Gura cover that may serve as fair comparison with JP vsingers is 世界の約束. It's quite popular with non-holos, yet Suisei, Azki, Sora, Watame etc. have never sung it.
>>9915477Chima's a tryhard. I just can't take her seriously. I can't quite put my finger on the reason why, but I just... can't.
sometimes i suspect anon like to bait for timeloops to keep this thread alive
>>9923561It's amazing and unsurprising how you can see the new IPs jump on the topic.
Are there any Vsingers who can do good, clean screams besides Shachou?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1tf3kZiDohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGvYwVW38mc
>>9730723https://twitter.com/midori_2434/status/1438465344310439937Minato, Toko, Hayato, Kaede, and Ryushen are doing a 3D live with a live band on the 26th.
>>9923917lmao that's coincidental, but hype (not samefagging with this btw >>9923736 i'm actually looking for recs)
>>9922664Why do you consider her a chink?
>>9922469It amazes me how foreign vsingers can sing songs in another language so flawlessly.
Nanamiya Sou duet cover https://youtu.be/BMbJha_maK4
Kotone duet cover https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vF226roAUA8
Hachi in an hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JRgK55VNLo
saki ashikawa karaokehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMca--XuvPY
Edo, holy shit I didn't know there is countdown this coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-i-e8u1qlwAmanohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9n6RtVezY
https://youtu.be/PsFlMZ-ZTCgDo we accept vband here?
>>9931541Yes, yes we do.
https://twitter.com/vesper_yomi/status/1438821200097005568Someone in the thread earlier wanted to hear Yomi’s karaoke, so they’ve heard you.
>>9938057Hell yeah!For some reason she underperformed in all of their concerts. Stage freight standing in a "stage" appearing in front of the screens of a virtual audience. This time she can be relaxed alone in a room with less pressure without the presence of organizers doing things in her own pace.
A tad bit late, but Asano Ruri singing. https://youtu.be/NqRjFlHjOPs
KAF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoQZnzW5LuEBOOGEY VOXX https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTozOhwP4MkUtawakuOni https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLQVhPopjLwRatio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YZobe5TsA4Madoka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-4YNBvy1WI
>>9938057Glad to know I can bend the universe to my will like that. I wonder if they're going to make it a regular thing from the Vesper girls since KMNZ Liz does them on occasion even if she unlists them sometimes, and they're managed by the same company.Polka cover - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-q93ccVQqM
>>9944121Skillful as always. Switching between softness and harshness on the fly. Her song choice is pretty niche, however. People aren't gonna stumble upon these things by chance.
>>9945657She's participating in that indie relay at the start of October, so that should do some good things for her discoverability.
rika aka kuroneko datenn is singing it is unarchived so come fasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op7h2h9mQGc
>>9915477No she's not that great, sure she has some fundies down but that's about it. Most of the actual vsingers shit her out of the water.In terms of general best vsingers, taking the whole package into consideration I'd say HIMEHINA are still top of the game. Highly talented, unique vocals, originals out the ass, high quality MVs, cute models. 10/10 singers.Other mentions I'd throw in the top echelons are YuNi and MaiR.I like the kamitsubaki girls and kotone, but they're admittedly less strong on the singing front than the actual top singers. I might swap a few of them for YuNi though since she can be hit or miss on some songs. I'd actually put some of the PRISM girls above Chima desu.
>>9950272>HIMEHINA are still top of the game.HimeHina love.https://streamable.com/wvikvkI need more of them singing with my Oshi
>>9950569I'm glad Suisei still collabs with Inui at least.
>>9929588Kotone love. She is the first vtuber (other than Kizuna Ai) that I know of due to how much her mama shilled her. The apology song is too good.
>>9929588>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF226roAUA8Pretty banging desu.I don't like anjo's voice here desu though, it would have fine by itself but in a duet it feels too hanging if that makes sense. Like it doesn't lead into Kotone it sounds like they're just singing by themselves then overlaying it as opposed to naturally leading into the other one.
>>9950272Himehina are absolutely top tier, don't regret paying exorbitant EU blackmail import fees for their albums
Thoughts on the forbidden green geometric shape with 3 edges? She has a limited pool of songs that she can sing but she was the only one that I know used voice changer regularly, which grew on me. However lately she dropped the voice changer thingy and without that she is kinda bland.
>>9951037>forbidden green geometric shape with 3 edges?Why is Delta forbidden? Is it because she's menhera as fuck?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1438759678696067077Niji singing relay on the 23rd. Chima, Levi, and Kohaku are the big singing talents (Amyamya too if she isn't nerfing herself)