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Akai Haato/Haachama
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Unmedicated Haaton Godchama worship thread
Next stream: https://youtu.be/Uvp5KuVMOgw
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>>3229600
Barefoot version of this pic when
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>>3229600
Inb4 it's an actual new outfit teaser
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>>3229896
Only if it is also a new character/persona too.
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>>3230250
It'd be good for the new self aware haachama thing she has going on
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>>3229896
When is she going to get arms like all the other tubes
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>>3230509
She can't or we'd see where her hands are most of the time
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I love Haachama so much bros
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>>3230576
W-where are they
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>>3230790
Don't worry about it~
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>>3231019
It's pictures like these that make me want Red Heart to return. A character implied to be more powerful than Haachama is a most enthralling concept to me.
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>>3231200
It's hard to scale them sharing the same body, but now that we have godchama maybe that's god haato
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>>3231307
So what is the purpose of this build? Her house?
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>>3231330
An affront to the demiurge
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>>3231375
Imagine lightning striking it
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>>3231330
A gathering spot for all the members to help Haachama ascend through their sacrifice
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>>3229600
that is an image i wouldn't play around, don't knock the devil's door
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>>3231587
I find myself sleeping in this position while lying on my back very often. What does this mean?
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Remember those creepy antique dolls, that sometimes move on their own, and keep watching you?
No imagine a Haachama one, as an official merch.
That would come bundled with a spare head.
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>>3229600
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
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>>3231330
>"I'm not really that good at minecraft"
>builds a house bigger than the entire hololive village just to look down on the peasants
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>>3231819
I'd buy it, the fact that haachama doesn't have a new 3D model with both detachable heads is already a travesty
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I just spent an hour trace-editing this

Worth it
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I kind of want to see Haachama sit down with a longer game she can spend a few streams or more playing through, bouncing between the same three things over and over seems like it's going to get old for everyone fast
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>>3232275
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>>3232275
Good job anon
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>>3232275
Holy based
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>>3232363
Haachama English when?
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>>3231649
It means your Haachama.
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Haatons cranking out the oc today. Nice work
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>>3232775
When:
a) She thinks of something to do for an English stream and is randomly in the mood.
or
b) She thinks she needs a sub boost.
or
c) HololiveEN gen 2 debuts and she rides the wave to 2M subs by interacting with them.
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>>3233291
>c) HololiveEN gen 2 debuts and she rides the wave to 2M subs by interacting with them.
I think this is likely to happen to be honest. The main reason she started to do regular English streams back last year was because of the debut of Hololive EN and her HoloEN Domination Plan. Knowing how much of a sub boost she got from the whole thing, it would be a smart move to take advantage of the new momentum generated by the new HoloEN gen.
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Haatons have you taken your meds today?
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>>3234066
No and I am more powerful than ever, in my mind.
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NEXT. MEME.
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>>3234172
Nice.
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>>3234066
The only med I'm still on is HAACHAMACHAMA
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> start watching Haachama
> Schizophrenia videos start getting recommended to me on youtube
What am I in for?
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To be honest. I really liked the entire #coexist February arc. It had its closure, albeit delayed and possibly toned down due to reasons, but overall I liked it.
I just don't understand why would she suddenly go back to it with this minecraft stream. It seems stupid, nonsensical and even annoying. She didn't have to do this. "Haachama persona" was playing a lot of minecraft too. Maybe she didn't feel like doing anything crazy and was looking for easy "excuse" to do a chill stream? Still sounds stupid. Meh.
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>>3235858
>still thinking she gives any thought to these """"""""""""""lore"""""""""""""" streams
When will you people learn?
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I have a theory for the new lore. Kamichama is the voice from the return stream. She is sealed in the tower. Haato was fortifying the walls. Haachama will enter the tower and break the seal.
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>>3234066
NEVER
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>>3233291
>Haachama to 2 million

I'll grant her 2 years to get there under current rates
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>>3237248
??? Are you sure you're following her growth? She wasnt even 500k before this time last year.
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>>3237248
She decides to go off the rails again and pulls more stunts. This time, she will eat TWO spiders!
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>>3235858
I think it's one of the following reasons:

a). Haato appearing again and doing the same thing as the #coexist arc is actually part of the new arc she is setting up. If you watch the REVIVAL stream again, the mysterious voice said at one point "Delete the memory", and the scene just before the "HAACHAMA is back" message also resembles time reversing (even though that's probably not it), so everything 'resetting' could very well be part of the plot. This would also line up with previous time travel arc where the theme was "redoing past streams".

b). It's past midnight and she didn't want to make a lot of noises. She also knows people love chill Minecraft streams so she decided to give people what they want because it's just the right cirumstances. Since Haato-sama is now heavily associated with chill Minecraft streams, she thought it would only make sense to get Haato to host the stream.

c). She didn't give much thought story wise and just felt like streaming as Haato. Even before the #coexist arc, there were many streams where Haachama would act really calm to the point that some people would think she's somebody else. Maybe it's just one of those moments again but she took the chance to bring Haato back because she knows people love the Haato character. It could be due to a number of reasons but since it's her private life, we'll never know.

d). The stream is not really "canon" to the current arc and it's just a standable episode/series of streams. Like an anime filter or sorts.
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>>3237310
she hit a brick wall after 1M, it's probably more to do with the back to back hiatus than her content though
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>>3239775
>more to do with the back to back hiatus than her content though
can confirm. The second one has filtered me from membering until I see a solid month of content again.
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>>3231330
It's a massive building but looking at those asymmetric style I feel it's like a manifestation of her uncertainty
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>>3241996
Its a miracle of engineering with the blueprint she's working off of
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>>3231330
And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
And the GODCHAMA came down to see the city and the tower, which Haato builded.
And GODCHAMA said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
So GODCHAMA scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because GODCHAMA did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did GODCHAMA scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
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>Karaoke
>ASMR
>Member Only
>Minecraft
>Cooking
>Haachama Sunday

Glad to know creativity is killed, thanks.
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>>3247788
Add some lore streams and that's a fairly unique lineup compared to most holos still.
We have to see if she'll be able to have a consistent schedule though.
What else could she do?
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>>3247993
I dunno, I didn't mind it before all the lore stuff, but now that she's not doing it anymore I do miss it. Yesterday's thumbnail really makes me hope she'll do some lore here and there, that'd be perfect.
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>>3247788
I agree with >>3247993. She's in a weird spot because she isn't a gamer. The medium is fairly constrained in what you can do, so there isn't a ton else she could do. Maybe she could do zatsudans where she practices art or something (or relatedly some other RL thing like Haachama cooking) but otherwise she's in a weird spot for new types of content without doing something else on the innovative end like lore.
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>>3231330
A great Tower to influence everything in it's Aurbic vicinity.
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>playing MHR and Apex is creativity
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>>3234066
Who needs meds when you got Chammers?
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>>3250403
This will be the next ASMR thumbnail, you guys know she can't resist.
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>>3247993
If it wasn't for her insisting on streaming at real nigga hours she could get in a collab a week, natural content and takes some of the pressure to deliver off
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Thumbnail change bros
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>>3251038
As an euro she's one of the few that has a perfect schedule for me (morning or early afternoon)
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>Complaining about her tooth
Just brush your teeth goddammit. Floss for fuck's sake.
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>>3251038
Kiara collab when
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>>3251513
That tooth is dead, she just has to pull it out and give it to me
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>>3251555
Never again
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>>3251466
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88990261
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yee
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>>3251038
It's perfect JP hours, the only hours that matter.
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>>3251695
Be ready for the next KFC ASMR collab
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>>3231819
I'd buy it so fucking fast
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God I love the orchestral arrangement so much
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> orchetral chama
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>>3252402
Tonight's good, but she's often streaming a bit after perfect JP hours probably.
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Toothdecaychama...
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The stream is FIRE already.
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>>3252502
on the other hand, angry haachama singing is usually great....
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>>3252502
Remember to spam dentist in chat. Seems to really work.
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>>3252481
>Streams when Japan is going to sleep and America is at/going to work
She's going to lose the wagie market
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>>3252580
I'm listening at work
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>I'm enduring pain to sing. I'm the reflection of an idol aren't I?
STRONGEST IDOL
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>>3252481
1 hour right before midnight is literally perfect.
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>>3252813
>I'm enduring pain to sing
Is her throat hurt or something?
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>>3252893
Tooth decay
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>>3252893
She fucked up her tooth last week and I guess hasn't been to the dentist yet? Who knows with chama
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>>3252893
anonchama...
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>>3252893
Tooth decay
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>Romeo and Cinderella
Lewd
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Lagchama...
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>>3252663
Same. She usually atreams right before my daily meetings which works out great
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>>3252580
We are in EU domination arc currently.
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I wonder if she has real tooth pain or if it's part of the lore
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You know, Haachama is pretty good at singing.
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>>3252965
I always loved this song in project diva
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>>3253053
that first ussewa felt like the pain was real
Also she talked about the teeth pain in the minecraft stream
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>>3253033
If she starts speaking french I may reconsider
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>>3253053
Lore faggots must need to be euthanized.
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>"Don't you ever let me go."
Don't ever
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>>3253095
She's an excellent actress
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IDOL TIME
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>>3253097
Now i wanna see that.
Maybe she could try cooking some French food while she's at it.
#GLOBALCHAMA
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>>3253053
The least you could do is watch the streams before assuming everything is lore retardchama
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Double Idol time I guess. JP and ENG
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>>3253249
She doesn't even know where France is on a map.
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Oh shit were getting both. Blessed stream
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>>3253299
That makes it even better.
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>>3253249
Have mercy on the French anon.
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>>3253299
She knows way too much classical music to not at least know the major European countries
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>>3253249
>Maybe she could try cooking some French food while she's at it.
Ortolan Haachama Cooking...

https://twistedfood.co.uk/this-is-the-horrifying-banned-dish-thats-regularly-described-as-the-most-decadent-on-earth
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>>3253353
Confirmed for not even watching her. She confused Spain for fucking Russia one time.
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>>3253414
>She confused Spain for fucking Russia one time.
Is this true?
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I don't like the SSS eng version that much but Haachama is cute so I like it now!
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>>3253414
those aren't major european countries
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英語ちゃま!
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>>3253353
You thinking using something as background music counts as knowing the song? Are you fucking retarded? I bet you almost everyone has heard The Ride of the Valkyries but wouldn't be able to name the song if you gave them a million years.
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>>3253437
It's some dumbass English stream where her brain dead audience asked her to visit their country.
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ROUND 2
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>>3253497
People also forget most classical music is public domain and thus a pretty safe choice to use
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>>3253414
I mean Spain and Russia are both pretty similar countries
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Damn, she can learn English songs quite fast, two more tries and it's perfect.
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>>3253599
Kek, don't bulli the chama.
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>>3253599
She already sang it once with Coco during her last 3D stream. She just forgot.
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>pops in your path
My hearrrt...
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She'd better fucking go before her concert. Just imagine how fucked her career's going to be if she couldn't sing at her gen's anniversary concert because she was too fucking stubborn to go to a dentist.
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Ei English songs tomorrow nice. I guess her messing up the 1st SSS english attempt got her motivated lmao.
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You will never be haachama's dentist
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>>3253849
tfw haachama will never be my dentist
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English karaoke soon let's fucking go!
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>>3253843
At no point did she say that. Where the fuck are you getting that?
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>>3253890
inb4, she cures your teeth, by cutting off your whole head.
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>>3253278
I know she has talked about her toothache for a few days now. I'm just schizo enough to assume everything can be lore even though I know she's not planning things out.
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>>3253927
It's a joke anon.
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>>3253835
don't worry, Officer Subaru is going to make her go https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1388535438994907139
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>>3254150
Anon, she responded with fucking dance emoji. I don't think things like police are of any authority to her
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>>3254424
We have Ame as backup if she timeloops again, HoloEN is the Scooby Doo squad brought in to deal with Haachama's antics
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>>3254424
You think mamachama ever had to spank her? Perhaps bare assed as well?
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https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1389587318009307136
Cooking contest
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Cooking contest

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1389587318009307136
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>>3254650
The Red Heart tiktok contest...
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>>3254495
Ame doesn't have fucking shit to do with her. Stop trying to force this cringe fest.
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>>3254678
That was cringe, time to go desecrate some sushi instead
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>>3254678
Pls no
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So haatons it put up or shut up time. Are you a better cook than the chammers?
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>>3254762
Yes but that's not what we do here, that's why I'm going to take a prime cut of salmon, season it to perfection then throw it in the microwave for 10 minites
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>>3254526
>>3254526
>You think mamachama ever had to spank her? Perhaps bare assed as well?
She probably loves it since she confirmed herself as M.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUZ6GusPTAM
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>>3254762
Wondering if I should go full schizo haaton for a submission...
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>>3254889
Sasuga YT, it won't even show up in my feed.
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Making some Tarantula Sushi in Cosplay with a Haaton slave. Mark my words.
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Time to make a pepeloni pizza (awayed)
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>>3255009
The theme is sushi.

Unless you're planning on making a pepeloni sushi roll.
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>>3255071
Well, that's what I get for missing the stream and not looking at the tweet
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>>3254957
Glad I wasn't the only one
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>>3254801
why not just burn the microwave and cook the salmon over the flames if you're just gonna ruin it like that?
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>>3255392
Don't tempt me
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So, insect sushi it is.
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>>3232775
Gone, dead, and buried.
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>The Haato Tower is finally complete.
>Everyone comes to visit.
>Miko is carrying her lava bucket.
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>>3254947
The difficult task of riding the fine line between being clever and trying too hard
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>>3258544
Atm I doubt anyone's going to top the madlad who made horned beetle filed with cockroach pasta, but it's Haatons we are talking about so you can never be 100% sure
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>>3255071
Fuck, I'm leaving town Thursday but this sounds like a funny idea
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>>3237248
She killed all of her momentum, closer to 3 years with her current growth.
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Reminder that you should take your meds
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>>3262170
She used to be top 6 in the Hololive JP sub ranking during her schizo arc. She was gaining subs at much higher rate than the others too. Hate to admit it, but those back-to-back hiatus really done a big number on her growth rate. It doesn't look like it's going back to where they were any time soon either.
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>>3262919
Already tried.
But nothing has changed.
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>>3263087
If Chama had kept it going and done a few more ame and gura collabs during the height of her explosion she might have crossed 1.5M, guess I'm going to have to shill her some more
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>>3253053
They almost all have terrible eating habits, Subaru and Nene are also having tooth decay problems.
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>>3263225
She hasn't done a HoloEN collab in over 3 months, don't expect it to happen again this year.

She doesn't need English practice now that's she in Japan.
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>>3263225
>she might have crossed 1.5M
On the other hand it would be 500k schizofans there for the schizo arc, not appreciating either OG Haato or Haachama as she is
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>>3263419
They would have folded into the schizo masses, just like the australia arc haatons and whatever arc we were in december 2020 when antichama started watching
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>>3263087
You can watch when it happened in this video if you want.
https://youtu.be/Kt54cJVKGqI
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>>3263225
Damn, now I really think she should have involved Ame in her time travel arc. Even if Ame put up a lackluster performance or whatever, I think the sub gain from the global collab aspect alone would bring the existing momentum to ever greater heights. Such a missed opportunity really.
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>>3263580
Pick your poison.
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>>3264175
>Screaming Gamer
>Australian
I miss those little niggas like you wouldn't believe...
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>>3263750
It looks like her subscriber gain rate started dropping drastically when she stopped streaming everyday even though she was in the middle of the schizo arc. So streaming everyday really is that important huh?
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>>3262170
>>3263087
>>3263225
I unsubbed from her because once she came back, she stopped speaking English completely.
Yes, "hurr durr EOP", but the fact is that there is nothing there for me anymore.
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>>3263990
It'd be nice if she ever resumes it, it seems like she's moving away from monthly stories and more to a continuous haachama universe
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>>3264506
Once I started watching her EN streams she instantly became my favorite. So much wasted potential, the Schizo Arc was the end for me.
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>>3264474
The algorithm is fickle as fuck. My lazy rrat is that her growth was pretty much 1:1 with HoloEN's explosive growth at the time, and as you said, missing a day or two probably kicked her off the wave she was riding.

Really though, after February, it seems like everyone's growth kind of fell off a cliff.
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>>3263382
She would have already been planning on going been to Japan/was back in Japan by the time that she did those collabs
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>>3264716
>My lazy rrat is that her growth was pretty much 1:1 with HoloEN's explosive growth at the time
It was. See this chart here: >>3263750.

Her drop was Feb 8, the last day she "rode the EN wave".
On Feb 5 she reach peak HoloEN interest because Ame got stuck on her level on that fanmade game and spent about one hour trying to clear a level with Haachama's "Red Heart" playing in the background. Most of the streams before that had regular Aussie Haachama doing regular Aussie Haachama things, more or less tying in with her "HoloEn0" rebranding.

It was when she went full in with her schizo Arc that she managed to at the same time
>attract all sorts of schizos
>drop most of the recently arrived EOP
>alienate "late night MC stream" EOP that were in for the imouto vibe
>lose some of the faithful nihon following, already not fully satisfied with her change from Haato to Haachama
I don't even think she herself was satisfied with the shift but she failed to realize that it was not the schizo arc drawing the views but the HoloEN0 and the tie in.

(Image reads right to left, bottom to top because I'm a retard)
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>>3264721
She had her highschool finals coming coming-up, consider those collabs as a form of language cramming.
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>>3265870
So what you're saying is that she can regain her lost sub gain rate if she takes advantage of inevitable HoloEN Gen 2 debut and starts speaking English more?
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>>3266980
> and starts speaking English more?
That goes without saying. When you look at the other top growth non EN Holos
> Marine, Pekora, Russia and Korone are JP powerhouses on their own
> Coco, Ollie and Moona (and Haachama) benefited immensely from the huge influx of EOP brought by HoloEN due to their ability to communicate with them

Funnily the one bridge with EOP missed this train: Fubuki. Did something happen to her between Korone massive growth and Gura debut and 1M RTA to justify her “disappearance” from the fast growing club?
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>>3263225
Well thank fuck for Enma and Haachama having absolutely no reason anymore to learn English. Getting any more EOP fucks on her channel would have made it even more cancerous than it already is. You know what a JP streamer needs? More fucking JP fans. EOP fucks aren't the ones that are going to show up at her live concerts or events. The realization is going to hit her once the Gen 1 concert happens and she sees like 10 haatons among a sea of other gen 1 fans in the audience.
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>>3267453
Fubuki's EN buff was spread out over the year since she and Miko got the early clipfag attention, Haachama didn't get much attention until the zhang uprising
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>>3269335
I agree with you on keeping schizo lore EOP retards out of her fanbase. With that said yiu may have misunderstood the nature of being a Haaton
>she’s not there to entertain you
>she’s there to be entertained
She pretty much pioneered fan participation in her trade and many of her streams are just that
>Haaachama playing some sort of crazy “straight man” to give Haaton their time in the limelight
For all other streamers the streamer is the protagonist. For Haachama, for better or for worse, the audience is, and you can see that in the last HaachamaSunday
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>>3269335
Antichama, what does her channel becoming more "cancerous" and EOP not showing up to live concerts and events have anything to do with her goal of reaching 2 millions subscribers? Why are you even making this post when Chamas herself doesn't care about these things? She probably don't even care about the Gen 1 concert that much since she almost never talk about it.

>The realization is going to hit her once the Gen 1 concert happens and she sees like 10 haatons among a sea of other gen 1 fans in the audience.
Guess you don't actually watch her stream since you failed to see all the JP Haatons with the 1* year member badges.
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Just let the girl be.
It doesn't really matter if she's more or less poplar than "X" vtuber.
As long as she's unique in her own way, and she's enjoying it.
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>>3270440
>She pretty much pioneered fan participation in her trade and many of her streams are just that
>For all other streamers the streamer is the protagonist. For Haachama, for better or for worse, the audience is
Well said. Her schizo arc, regardless of what you think about it, is the pinnacle point of this. It wouldn't have worked for as long as it did if she wasn't so good at encouraging others to create fan work and integrating them as appropriate into her streams. Her ability to work a crowd and engaging with them is unparalleled in hololive, heck, maybe even in the vtubers industry itself.
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>>3270440
Catering to redditfags is the worst thing since meme review. Schizo Arc was a mistake and killed her appeal, as well as her self respect. She privated those videos from the cringe.
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>>3270440
I'm here to watch the streamer, not a bunch of retarded attentionfag clout chasers. She's perfectly capable of being entertaining on her own without this garbage. She's just too fucking lazy because she's found out retards will watch the kind of low effort garbage she puts out.

>>3271279
>you failed to see all the JP Haatons with the 1* year member badges.
All of 10 fucking guys.

>>3272950
Precisely why the schizo arc was peak fucking cancer.
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>>3273787
>Catering to redditfags is the worst thing since meme review. Schizo Arc was a mistake and killed her appeal, as well as her self respect. She privated those videos from the cringe.
He wasn't even talking about the schizo arc, antichama. Try harder. Oh wait, you can't, since obviously you're only here to troll and don't actually watch her streams. You should stop now because even your insults make no fucking sense.
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>>3272950
>maybe even in the vtubers industry itself.
I would say across all streamers, virtual or otherwise. She does two things to perfection:
- she mixes very well done submissions with the cookiest craziest ones, meaning even an untalented retard can get his 5 minutes
- she most definitely DOESN’T PREPARE ANYTHING, EVER, which guarantees only the most genuine reactions (be it in success or failure).

One example of this was when she tried to arrange impromptu collabs with unknown vtubers. It was a mess, it bombed miserably because she didn’t set a call order and simply took the first call that went through but it was entertaining as fuck.
She was called a genius for “creating” the schizo lore arc but the real genius was the fact she improv the whole thing with no more than 15 min of prep before the streams.

Bottom line is that she’s not there to entertain Haaton and she’s not even willing to make the effort. She’s there to allow Hatton to entertain her and each other and she’s a pure genius at it.
Anytime they try to get her to make any effort she gets bored and loses incentive to keep going
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>>3271346
Comparison to other vtubers affects the content she puts out. She is less inclined to do things other "more talented" holos are doing. One of her primary motivations for vtubing appears to be raw attention. She has mentioned pushing 3M in one stream and more recently suggested 2M by the end of the year. The metric for measuring her popularity bounces between sub counts and memberships. Unfortunately, pushing subs involved content that troubled her older fans; shock content, EN marathons, lore, etc.

Of course, Chammers must be left to her own devices. It is not a question of what anyone thinks is best for her. She simply cannot function any other way. Her new fans need to learn they are in for a ride with a destination that changes constantly.
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>>3273787
>Catering to redditfags
But she doesn’t?

>>3273979
>She's just too fucking lazy because she's found out retards will watch the kind of low effort garbage she puts out.
True. For people wanting painstaking preparations there is always Coco, spending an inordinate amount of time interacting with Reddit, arranging guests and spending a full hour trying her hardest.
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>>3275239
Implying newfags in here have watched the vtuber mixer. 99% of the fucks in here don't even know anything older than 2021.
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>>3275239
>She was called a genius for “creating” the schizo lore arc but the real genius was the fact she improv the whole thing with no more than 15 min of prep before the streams.
Spot on. Pretty much all JP viewers called her a genius when they learned that there was basically no planning involved throughout the whole schizo arc.

>>3275488
>Of course, Chammers must be left to her own devices. It is not a question of what anyone thinks is best for her. She simply cannot function any other way. Her new fans need to learn they are in for a ride with a destination that changes constantly.
Maybe just me, but her unpredictability is a big part of why I loved Haachama. Her "INSANE CRAZY CONTENT" and chaos is what makes her different from all other chubbers.
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>>3275578
>spend a week curating the worst images you can find on reddit so your guests can clap between blank stares
>meanwhile haachama rolls out of bed 30 minutes before stream and puts out masterpiece after masterpiece
I'm waiting to see her get the motivation back once this toothache is over
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>>3275578
The Schizo Arc was entirely a Reddit construct. They have been sucking their own dick about it this entire time. They called her a genius then take credit for driving the narrative, it’s fucking shameless.
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>>3277178
So you're saying if I go on reddit and take credit for this post and call you a genius for it, that would mean you're pandering to reddit, right
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>>3277417
Too late buddy, those upvotes are mine
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>>3275239
Chammers has severe procrastination issues. She knows this has harmed her in the past and she can't improvise absolutely everything. It seems that she doesn't know how to deal with it nor how to seek help.
Chammers does things for her own amusement but is not completely apathetic to what her audience thinks. It seems like she is distant from her fans, knowing that they cycle as her content cycles. However, she has had multiple rants in members content about the matter and a few breakdowns. As can be seen in these threads, there are a few people that can appreciate her, the content creator, no matter what content she produces. Or at least they can hold their noses until she cycles out of something they don't like to watch. Tourists come and go in great numbers, though, and perpetual numberseeking by Chammers can inflate their influence.
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>>3277417
From the moment she was made aware of it her content has sucked, only Schizofags from Reddit like that shit. So if you like the Schizo Arc I suggest you go back.
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>>3269335
Antichama, who do you watch nowadays? Surely you've moved on and stopped giving yourself a headache with Chammerd, right?
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>>3277765
It definitely started getting repetitive at the end, but everything up to Haato's head getting cut off was great
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>Singing Romeo and Cinderella
Good choice
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>>3254664
Where can I get a cardboard cutout this size on a 12 hour notice?
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>Haachama streams her visit to the dentist completely in character
Would you watch it?
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>>3300075
Like (You) even have to ask
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>>3263990
She probably has no idea that ame is a time traveler
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>>3277651
ADHDchama...
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>>3276901
Yeah I watch HAACHAMA because I never know what I'll get with her. She might be a number fag deep inside but she is also the only one willing to take mad risks to get those numbers. Doing a stream without her model where she's just typing for an hour straight? No other Chuuba could have put that off and made it fun and engrossing.

Chammers is a genius and that's a fact.
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>>3277651
But how do you fix this? I am asking u ironically because I am seeing that exact same Chammers pattern in myself. I'll put out work presentations 30 minutes before the meeting starts and get an ass clap from the CEO, but I know I was scraping by by the skin of my teeth and that I had a week to prepare which I wasted completely.

How do you structure yourself when you only seem to be able to perform when there is some pressure on?
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Cultured Chammers retweet with thick thighs and some nice nip slippage
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>>3302929
She likes boobs and thighs but I wonder what she thinks of stuff like this.
https://mobile.twitter.com/IN_THE_MOCHI/status/1389129980773208066
NSFW
She used at least one of their artworks as a thumbnail before.
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>>3304094
I want to believe that she loves stuff like this and that she has a(nother) room mate Twitter where she likes all of these images but I am not autistic enough to go through all the likes of several images of such content to see if there is a pattern there.
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When I say I want Haachama back, I meant the schizo english speaking Haachama. How long has it been since she made an english only stream?
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>>3304711
30 years
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>>3264506
Her chat has multiple translators
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>>3304711
Too long.
I miss ENchama so much, she has the cutest English out of all holos.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1LUY_iKvTk
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yee
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>>3305220
Nice.
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>>3305220
at this point a consistent chammers schedule feels weird kek
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Having all these translators is nice, but this Info Haaton is an annoying waste of space.
If there are 3 others giving direct translations, why does he feel the need to give context? The people looking at chat for english are reading what she's saying
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>>3305326
You can block him
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>>3305326
yeah I've noticed too
clout chasing? trying to help? the "context" guys only clutter, might as well read the translations
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diet struggle and singing practice
Obviously she's thinking about the1st gen concert
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>>3305326
Idk but i find him annoying as well so i blacklisted him
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Wasn't this supposed to be an ASMR, not complaining since there's one scheduled later but I checked 30m ago and could of sworn this was a membership only asmr
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Damn my chat filter app doesn't work on member content. Guess I'll catch the vod.
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>>3305448
Nah, it's a zatsudan
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Lewdchama...
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>>3305454
I'm worried for this whenever I am forced to go back into the office. Missing my morning Haachama doesn't sound fun.
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>HxH mention
Togashi... please... chapter...
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>>3305448
>membership only asmr
Membership only, yes, ASRM no. You may have been misled by the fried chicken in her hand, implying it would be another KFC ASMR

>>3305326
>>3305333
>>3305346
>>3305386
That bloke is the posterboy of "parasocial relationship".
I hate this expression mostly because people use it as a replacament for "liking something I don't like" but it applies in his case. I thought he would kill himself during Haachama's break, not even kidding.
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I'm always scared to chat in member streams because if I say something cringe there's a much greater chance she reads it
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>That's why when Im running late for my kindergarden cool I'll put on the 'dark playlist' and play the song "bad girl" in there
chuuni badgirlchama
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>Haachama has a music folder for when she's being a bad girl
Always has been
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>Lemon water
Even Chammers fell for that meme.
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she actually listens to classical music, not just for the streams, nice. Also medieval music. Cultured.
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>>3301224
Ritalin.
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>>3305742
It’s the same guy in that cosplay stream, with the “whatever” shirt
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>I ride my limo
was that an actual translation or a shitpost?

also the diary bit is interesting
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She seems so happy today bros
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Fatchama...
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>>3305837
>It’s the same guy in that cosplay stream, with the “whatever” shirt
Yep. That fulfill his purpose in life, being featured in a Haachama stream. I think he'll legit kill himself now, happy and accomplished.
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>>3249235
>Speed run a getting over it
>2nd best Tetris holo
>Not a gamer
I'm aware of what she said regarding this but those aren't games one naturally excels at, and there are plenty of simple games to play. With Devolver permissions katana zero and hotline Miami come to mind. Really Devolver has a bunch of short simple games.
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Dear diary, today Haachama was cuter than usual!
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>Didn't do the EN karaoke because she read too much mango
Chammers...
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>Everyone, write a diary about Haachama. "Today's Haachama is very _______" That's your homework
>Use the hashtag #はあちゃま日記
>I'm sure you'll be happy if i monitor your entries
What are you gonna tell Haachama today, haatons?
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Simple is Best
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oh fuck she's ditching the 3dio and really ordered the KU100 for ASMR
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Simple is best reminds me of TKG no Uta which in turn reminds me of Haachama Cooking
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>I don't do chatting streams often. So I'm thinking of doing more chatting stream in members only
poor seanig EOPs filtered
this is a good compromise
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>haachama
>sticking to a diet
choose one
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I hope the architect bros don't find out, I like chubby art but whatever they make isn't good
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Toenail clipping stream
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>Toenail clipping live on stream
On-brand
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>>3306195
is this some kind of avant-garde fetish-asmr
well I guess it is now
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>>3306212
>ywn eat Haachama's toenails
WHY LIVE?!?!
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>>3306283
The fact i thought that if they were on sale for a hundred dollars or a couple hundred dollars I would buy them is very sad
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Is someone writing down the playlist? I want to try listening to it later.
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>>3306342
>ywn use a thicc Haachama hundred bucks a piece thick toenail as a toothpick
Something I don't even know if it is all worth it
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>>3306418
I didn't know i needed this in my life fuck you anon
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>>3306342
you know understand the psychology of religious relics
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>yandere ASMR

oh boy
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>>3306283
>>3306418
No frogs on /vt/ newfagchama
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yandere!?
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>>3306600
my body is ready
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>>3306582
Just add blonde twin tails and blue eyes to the frog
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JESAS THAT LEWD PIC
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>>3306580
>>3306600
I'VE BEEN WAITING BABY. We got a taste of Yandere Haato during the schizo arc but a Yandere ASMR? That'll be the shit.
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Chama that's too lewd... Keep for a lewd review stream or something...
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Looks like it's from the same guy who made the Suck my Dick art from her last H art contest
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Think of how big her Haachama hentai folder is, I wonder how often she faps to herself
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I like that she has a schedule now, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the lore somewhat.
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>>3306790
I know it's not really her thing but I'd love to see her try some horror games again. Re7 or 8 when it comes out could be fun.
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She knows exactly what she's doing
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>>3306776
>Think of how big her Haachama hentai folder is, I wonder how often she faps to herself
Why do you think she announced a doujin contest right after the coexist arc? The contest description also says "Haachama or Akai Haato OK" so she's clearly a yuri fan.
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>>3306790
There was supposed to be lore earlier but it was swapped out for Minecraft. It probably depends on how creative she's feeling.
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SMOKIN SEXY STYLE
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>>3306854
DESU, it puzzles me as to why she made the schizo arc entirely horror-focused as time went on. I love this kind of shit so I'm not complaining but I'm pretty sure Haachama said she's not good with horror in the past.
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>>3307000
She said she started the diary when she came back to japan and at first it was mostly bad things, later on it got filled with good things. Her mood usually directs the content (antichlorobenzen karaoke etc)
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4M SOON BROS
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>>3307000
The schizo arc could only really be horror, we never got to see where we were going with time travel so who knows what genre that was going to be
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>Harry potter watchalong
If it's for Chammers then ok...
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>>3307041
Hmm, I see. That would explain why people are saying she seems more cheerful and why her content have mellowed out after her most recent return.
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>>3307211
she's definitely on a good mood lately
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>if we become haachama, we will be happy
Embrace Haachama into your life
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>Red heart is meds
NOOO I REFUUUUUUSE
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>>3307259
She mentioned karaoke with friends near the beginning of stream. Not only is she done with the Uni entrance grind, but proper friends to hang out with would really help out.
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>Red Heart is medicine
She's been feeding us meds this whole time and we never knew it...
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>>3307334
Man it sure feels nice being able to go outside...
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>>3307334
>Not only is she done with the Uni entrance grind
kindergarden mentions do line up with her good mood, seems likely
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Oh no she's injecting us with meds again!
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Did the SCs just gaslight her into playing her Red Heart bgm?
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>>3307503
healing the human condition,
meds to become haachama!
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>>3307518
One of the chats ended mid-lyric and she couldn't remember how the rest of the line went
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>>3307518
Pretty much yeah.
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>>3307543
bwain is bloken please understand
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>>3253355
Never knew about this. Would be one hell of a yab and I doubt chammers would have the heart (or more accurately, the lack thereof) to go through with the preparation. Would be legendary, but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.
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>>3307521
Reminder to take your Big red heart pill everyday to cleanse your humanity away and become HAACHAMA!
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>>3253497
At least One of her thumbnails is a reference to ivan the terrible and his son Ivan, she's building the tower of Babel and was setting up chammers as god long before ever saying godchama with her music choice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1LUY_iKvTk
Thumbnail and title changed
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>>3307706
She's chuuni through and through, so it's only natural she'd be interested in all of the real pretentious stuff. And I wouldn't have it any other way. That's what makes her amazing.
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>>3307892
I wonder what it is like to leave your chuuni phase
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Her idol song being a tongue breaker for herself is peak cuteness.
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>>3307892
She claims she grew out of it a year ago, but we all know thats a lie
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>>3307745
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>>3309916
FUCK YOU SUSAN
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>>3309916
The thumbnail wasn't even lewd? Was it because of the knife?
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>>3310104
It's because of the blood isn't it...
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>>3310104
Their policies towards ASMR are vague in general and they ban people who do it for no reason.
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Rushia is in Babel right now
https://youtu.be/vuVYx2nUy3M
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>>3309916
This is why we can't have nice things
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>>3310610
I just tuned in and she was off elsewhere, any highlights or did she just walk around saying "ooh" and "aah"?
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>>3307000
Theres a big difference between being subjected to horror and making the horror yourself. The difficult part of horror is the unease of not knowing what's around the next corner, the shock of a sudden scare, the creepy atmosphere getting under your skin because you have no idea when that something is going to appear, etc.
When you're the writer, you're in complete control and horror is no longer a problem for you. Instead it becomes a fun game where you get to mess with people. It's an entirely different sort of feeling.
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Chama is still awake and put it back up. Goddamit YT.
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>>3311319
Makes sense. Haachama is a emotion-sadist so I can see why she enjoys creating things like the schizo arc, even if it's for the viewers reaction alone.
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>>3311398
The word "yandere" was removed from the title... Could it be what triggered the algorithm?
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>>3310951
She just looked around for a minute
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>>3311398
it's gone again, removed by the uploader this time
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>>3312143
Goddamit Chammers go to bed.
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>>3307706
That's fucking fanart. She has no idea what the context of the picture is. She only named that stupid thing the tower of babel because she thought it sounded cool. Fucking listen to what she says dumbass.
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>>3311319
>Instead it becomes a fun game where you get to mess with people
Exactly what she did with the creepy Yagoos in the MC server.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXN1-6uF9tc

When asked "why was she building it if she didn't even like it and found it creepy". She answered something like "I built it for your (the audience) benefit"
AND IT PAID OFF IMMENSELY!

If the fucking chinks hadn't broken Haachama's stride back then she would have ride the PekoMoona, the HoloEN wave and would likely be in a much stronger position (mental or otherwise) now, likely having fulfilled her dream of becoming president of the US and everything.
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>>3313562
Admit it anon
>she's smarter than the other girls on Holo
>she's smarter than the other girls in general
>she's smarter than you
ADMIT IT!
>ADMIT IT NOW!
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>>3313737
OK, I admit, but only because the thread is fastly approaching page 10 so I cannot take it back
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>>3307041
That's not what she said. She said she used to write her diary in some kind of hand-held calendar and switched to using a notebook once she got back to Japan. The negative things turning into positive things she was talking about was referring to her initial years transitioning to her last year in Australia. Her last entry was written in December when she just got back to Japan. I don't know if you got that from the """translators""" but they've always been shit so I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>3313737
I bet you were one of the idiots who thought she planned out any of her schizo streams. Got BTFO'd back then and you've been BTFO'd again. Her knowledge of pretty much everything is shallow at best. Her English is trash, her tastes in western music is all flavor of the month zoomer bullshit, her manga and anime interests are super pleb level and she has trouble keeping at anything for extended periods of time. She's tried her hand at ballet, dance, taekwondo, tea ceremonies, french lessons in the past but always quit after a while.
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>>3313960
>I don't know if you got that from the """translators""" but they've always been shit so I wouldn't be surprised.
Not OP but I can vouch for the "translators" being shit. In fact, the entire vtuber translation scene including clips are shit; they make so many mistakes that the meaning and nuances are sometimes entirely wrong.
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>>3313960
They completely fucked up the part about her mother buying a book about Buddha's teachings recently and hammering them into her daughter in mid December. Haachama felt refreshed after applying some of the teachings.
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>>3314227
You mean buying the book of Godchama?
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>>3314227
And before anyone gets any weird ideas about her becoming a Buddhist, she prefaced it by saying her mom isn't a Buddhist or anything but has always been into these self-help or motivational books.
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>>3314092
Who knew live translation was so hard
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At 26:30
>Haachama: my new pajamas and night bra feel so pleasant! (said in an ojou-sama tone)
>Translators: ojouchama
I feel sorry for you EOP tards. This is why you will always be inferior.
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>>3313562
this is even more impressive then if she's doing all this by instinct
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>>3314490
I don't know why you guys feel the need to rub it in so badly, I just want to enjoy the stream and feel like I know what's going on...
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>>3314066
Sorry anon, no tacksie backsies. You already admitted at >>3313904.
Either way you said a whole lot of words but the only message derived from it was
>yeah, she's smart and I got baffled by it
>better pretend otherwise lest people think I'm dumb, which I'm not, she's just that smarter than me
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>>3314490
>>3314546
He's probably antichama, since he just loves to hate EOP for some unknown reason, but he's right in a sense:

As much as I hate looking down on the weak, it's no mistake that they are ignorant and short-sighted because of their own lack of understanding. Those who refuses to even learn basic Japanese don't deserve the same respect as those who are serious about learning Japanese.
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>>3314461
VOD and clip translators are shit too for the most part. Good enough to get the gist and "feel" the memes, absolute trash for anything serious orinformative.
This is not even about this particular language, lots of things are not translatable, depends on context, depends on tone, depends on what was just said before but not part of the translation.
If you are bilingual and ever watched a movie in the original language then the same movie dubbed in your native language you know what I am talking about. The dub is pretty much another movie that happens to share the same visual
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>>3314761
But I thought antichama was just pretending to know Japanese?
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>>3314818
Oh shit, you're right. Maybe it's not the same guy after all.
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>>3314926
It's the same style of writing.
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>>3314776
>This is not even about this particular language, lots of things are not translatable, depends on context, depends on tone, depends on what was just said before but not part of the translation.
Some things are indeed not translatable, but actual good translators will attempt to localize these things into something that's at least similar in the target language. But almost all vtuber translators are so bad they can't even manage to put out something better than a literal translation. They're probably not even fluent in the language they are translating into to be honest, and that's the real problem.
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>>3314761
>>3314997
I want to know more about Antichama. What does he blame EOPs for besides pushing the character split? Does he still watch Haachama? If so, what did he think of the recent members stream. Did Haachama somehow offend him? What's the deal? Talk to me Antichama, I want to understand you.
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>>3314997
>>3314997
NOOOOOOOOO, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE ITTTTT!!! THERE'S NO WAY ANTICHAMA KNOWS JAPANEEEEEEEEESEEEEEEE
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>>3315141
He's tsundere for her. The fact he knows this>>3314490 means he watches her member streams
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>>3315141
He's in the same camp as the kiara/Ollie threadspammers, they've been seething since hololive decided to cater to the english market and cut out gatekeeping N5 SEAs and fans of holoCN
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>>3315030
>literal translation
They can barely even accomplish that. The day audio recognition becomes good enough that you can hook up a audio to text transcriptor to a machine translator you'll realize just how full of shit these "translators" are
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>>3315340
>They can barely even accomplish that.
Oh you don't need to tell me that. But I have seen a very few number of translators that are miles better than the average vtuber translator so at least decent ones do exist somewhere.
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>>3315263
>N5 SEAs
Oh you mean your 3 retarded Haachama """""live translators"""""?
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>>3315449
I don't know who you are. You might be antichama, but I'm afraid I have to agree with that statement: They can barely type in English so relying on them for translation is already a lost cause.
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>>3305742
It's a shame that B.H. had to latch onto Haachama of all people. She is a vtuber that has one of the most distant relationships with her fans. She simply forget about everything, including people. The matter has been discussed on the board a few times, and there is speculation surrounding the cause. Regardless, all fans of Haachama must understand that they need to maintain a healthy distance from her and flexible mindset. Watch over her and be there to pick her up when she's down, but don't attach your mental well-being to hers, or you will only end up hurting yourself. And absolutely don't expect any recognition from her outside of the contests.
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>>3315030
>but actual good translators will attempt to localize these things into something that's at least similar in the target language
That's the whole fucking problem in the first place. Here is an easy to understand example: imagine trying to translate, localize or even try to give context in any other language to the following exchange on Die Hard
>Main terrorist Hans: Mr. Mystery Guest are you still there?
>John Mcclane: Yeah I'm still here
>Hans: Who are you exactly?Someone who watched too many action movies as a child and thinks he's John Wayne,Rambo,Lewis Stevens?
>Mcclane: Actually I was kind of partial to Roy Rogers myself.Always liked those sequin shirts.
>Hans: Do you really think you can stop us Mr.Cowboy?
>Mcclane: Well,Yippie-Ki-Yay MotherFucker!

It can't be done, it depends on the context, depends on the popular culture of the place and depends on knowing Roy Rogers and this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fagq3CgSe4A

Whatever they translate it to will always be lacking.
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>>3315759
You're right. That's why translation companies generally change things they can't translate well into something else entirely. In the context of vtuber translation however this isn't a viable option in the first place, so yes, whatever they put out will never be the same or equivalent to the original version.

But my point is, pretty much everyone in the vtuber scene don't even TRY to get around this problem, they are content with machine-quality translations that they put out. That's worse in my opinion.
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>>3315759
>depends on the popular culture of the place and depends on knowing Roy Rogers and this song
In what way?
Consider the first line, where we are given 3 names with the context of "action movie", but who are they? Just names he made up? All we know is he is talking about people starring in action movies.
Roy Rogers was not those guys, context can be used to show he might not have been known for action, but he was a man known for his sequin shirts. In the next line we learn he was a cowboy, something that is almost universal, and through further context it can be implied McClane's final line was his famous phrase seeing as he was being alluded to as Roy Rogers.
Is it 100%, no, but it's dumb to say it's impossible when even the native speakers aren't going to be going in understanding the reference completely.
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>>3315449
Criticize them all you want, they are the ones keeping the EN audience engaged with Haachama. How long? I don't know. But their absence could tank Haachama's views.
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>>3316283
>tanking EOP views
And this is a problem because?
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>>3316326
Are you retarded? Do you honestly think a streamer seeing their Live viewcount drop to say half wouldn't affect them one bit? Even subconsciously? If they genuinely don't care then they're not serious about their streaming career either.

Oh wait, you're antichama aren't you? Should have expect that from you.
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I find it really amusing how Antichama became mascot of sorts in Chamms threads.
Imagine if one day he actually becomes Haachama's live translator that BTFO others with his quality translations
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>>3316326
It depends on Haachama's viewer demographics and if she cares about pushing for higher sub numbers. She has recently stated that she wants to push 2M. Can she do it JP only? I honestly don't know. Care to give your input?
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>>3317202
>Can she do it JP only? I honestly don't know. Care to give your input?
She can't. Hate to tell you this but Haachama isn't that popular in Japan compared to the other holomems. She's one of few hololive members who's more popular overseas than in Japan. It's been this way since she debuted as Haato in Gen 1; both viewer percentage and superchat earnings.

I'm not talking out of my ass either, I based this on viewership and SC statistic I've seen in the past. Not excatly sure the reason behind this but's that the way it turns out.
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>>3317816
>It's been this way since she debuted as Haato in Gen 1
You ARE talking out your ass. You don't even need to go that far back. Early 2020. Barely a single English comment in her chat or youtube comment section. Why would you lie about something so easily disprovable?
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>>3229600
The real rrat is the chamma will delete her channel and move to Mildom some time this year.
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>>3317184
>Imagine if one day he actually becomes Haachama's live translator that BTFO others with his quality translations
If he actually do this then I will forgive and respect him. Bad translations have plagued the vtuber scene for long enough.

...If he isn't an EOP himself that is.
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EOP tards have been the source of everything wrong with Haachama. Why would getting rid of them be a bad thing?
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>>3318512
As much as I would like to challenge him with this, until recently, live translating for Haachama was much too chaotic for most people. There was no schedule. Also, Haachama couldn't be relied upon to enable viewer-submitted subtitles.
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>>3318512
And why would I ever do anything to enable more EOPs?
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>>3318824
Explain to us what you think is wrong with Haachama. I genuinely want to hear your opinion.
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>>3318099
>Barely a single English comment in her chat or youtube comment section. Why would you lie about something so easily disprovable?
Do you honestly think all Japanese comments are Japanese? Not only is that naive as fuck and I guess you're a newfag since you don't even know how popular hololive was in China before they were known in the west. Why do you think they had to attract the Chinese auidences in the first place if they're doing so well in Japan alone? From hololive's early days till perhaps mid-2020 they had more subscribers on bilibili than Youtube. Not everything non-Japanese is EOP, dumbass. You're just hating EOPs unconditionally because of your own biased elitist viewpoint. Get real antichama, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>3319196
Because Haachama likes it?
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>>3319282
Schizo horseshit accounts for almost all of it, enabled by all the EOP retards spamming "IZ DEEZ HAATO OR HAACHAMA?" over and over in her chat since all the way back in fucking August of last year at completely inappropriate times. Giving attention to some of the cringiest EOP cloutseekers in her contests, attracting even more EOP clout seekers. Saying she couldn't do certain streams last year like kusomaro streams because foreigners wouldn't be able to understand them, leading to a general dumbing down of content.
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>>3316259
>All we know is he is talking about people starring in action movies.
Imagine you’re translating that to Japanese. Most don’t speak English and don’t consume English speaking media at all.
>Roy Rogers was not those guys, context can be used to
There is no context. All of those names could as well be “John Doe”, “Don Joe” and the likes with regards to a foreign audience with zero contact with American pop references.

That is where I’m tying in my argument that for the most part there are things that can’t be translated at all without losing all meaning.
Fansubbers from the old times knew that; they littered the anime they were translating with “translator notes” to fill the missing context.
Some retards did it too much tho, giving birth to “keikaku means plan” meme but the good ones knew when to leave something untranslated and explain it in some TL.

Clippers and even serious Holo subbers? As I said: good for that throwaway meme moment, garbage for anything serious or informative.

Here is an example:
https://youtu.be/vK2Wf9Cj67w

Pekora tried desperately to make a reference to this skit
https://youtu.be/N4Z46GxZtd4

But it obviously fell flat for Moona, fell flat for anyone not familiar with that skit because even if you translated the words it wouldn’t make sense.

Moons is a genius tho, much like Haachama she has the best instinct of all of the girls and can make any situation turn to her favor by reading the room and playing along
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>>3319637
All the crap you just spewed applies to everyone, not just Haachama. So how exactly does that prove she has more overseas viewers than Japanese viewers compared to the other girls ever since her debut? Looks like you're full of shit EOPtard.
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>>3319767
And?
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>>3318099
>Barely a single English comment in her chat or youtube comment section
That’s not because she didn’t have a huge English speaking audience but because the audience was smaller overall and the existing audience was familiar with “STFU and let the nips do their thing undisturbed”.

Haachama was angling for a non Japanese audience from the start, here is a clip of her introducing herself in perfect (for Japanese standards) English.
https://youtu.be/i-_aVb1lYbY

That’s why she got a huge English speaking audience in the first place, and the reason she gets to claim “Hololove En0” status.
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>>3320325
>So how exactly does that prove she has more overseas viewers than Japanese viewers compared to the other girls ever since her debut?
Because she never grew out of it, unlike the other girls. Why do you think Haachama's sub grow rate is so low until the zhang incident and after she started her English domination plan? Maybe use your brain for once, antichama? Oh wait, that's right, you don't have one.
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>>3320814
>That’s not because she didn’t have a huge English speaking audience but because the audience was smaller overall
Are you even reading the garbage you're typing?

>>3321225
Still zero evidence I see? Guess I BTFO'd another EOPtard. Easiest win in my life.
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>>3319196
That’s a fair point. I DREAD the fact some girls are dipping their feet on Spanish, if you guys think EOP are cancerous imagine when Latin America joins the fray.

I seriously considered making clips and TL for a couple of romance language that are currently underserved but after the influx of EOP retards I quickly realize what a big fucking mistake that would be.
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>>3321532
I’m starting to believe you are not only a self hating EOP but an ESL as well.
If you are so smart explain this
https://youtu.be/i-_aVb1lYbY
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>>3319989
Would you be opposed to occasional English-only streams instead? Is there any other type of content that you miss?
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>>3321225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7lktAJJm4
Oh wow I didn't know being #7 right before HoloEn debuted was considered low!
Fucking kill yourself. You don't know a goddamn thing.
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>>3321532
>Still zero evidence I see? Guess I BTFO'd another EOPtard. Easiest win in my life.
Oh, so you're using the no evidence card now? You ran out of counterarguments, antichama. I've won. You can't argue back without falling back to "oh, what you said is invalid because you have no evidence!!1!" EVEN THOUGH YOU GAVE NO EVIDENCE YOURSELF. What's next, are you going to say "I don't need to prove anything to EOPtards"? Face it, antichama, you're outplayed, and the worst part is that you don't even know. I honestly feel sorry about your pathetic excuse of an existence. You should kys but unironically.
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>>3322293
Oh wow, a Japanese student studying in Australia wants to show off her English skills. She's totally pandering to the English speaking audience and is gunning mainly for an English audience! Fucking kill yourself. Watch her zatsudan streams from the time and you'll know she did her English streams as a form of practice.
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Why did everyone suddenly begin chimping out?
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>>3320147
>Imagine you’re translating that to Japanese. Most don’t speak English and don’t consume English speaking media at all.
I think you need to reread what I'm saying, you can replace any of those 3 names with anything and all they would need to know is that they are actors in action movies, unless you are saying japanese don't have action movies and thus couldn't possibly know what what was being talked about.

The second one would actually require homework because the joke itself isn't being given to us by McClane (even if we don't know that he repeats a catchphrase), but Pekora is relying on Moona knowing this very specific setup and payoff.
In the end though, we are arguing the same thing, that they suck
Part of that comes from the fact that some are doing it live, and the others are putting shit like "I used this to practice both English and Japanese" in the description.
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>>3323046
Well, what else is she going to us it for now besides streaming?
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>>3322895
You think this proves anything? If EVERY SINGLE hololive members started at the same time then maybe your pathetic argument would hold some water. But they didn't. EVERYONE STARTS THEIR ACCOUNT AT 0 SUBSCRIBERS, RETARD. They need time to gain their subscribers, they're NOT something that can be brought at bulk. Game over, antichama, it's over. There's nothing left for you to argue.
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>>3323520
Everything is fine. We are just having a friendly discussion with our local anti(s).
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>>3323046
I can’t possibly be the only one to remember Haachama doing English only stream all the way back to 2019, I refuse to believe this place is this infested with newfags
https://youtu.be/Fth5LCkN0kw

Let’s do this anon: you first lurk moar, some 3 more years in silence and then you’re allowed to comment on things you clearly have no idea about today
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>>3323695
Oh wow backpedaling and moving goalposts. Classic signs of coping from someone who's been BTFO'd so hard his asshole is a gaping crater.
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>>3323834
And that proves she was gunning for a mainly English audience how? When 99% of all her other streams were in Japanese?
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>>3323695
It proves more than you've proven. Your move retard.
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This thread has been a lot of fun but it has hit autosage.
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>>3323595
>and all they would need to know is that they are actors in action movies,
Most don’t know. Japan is another universe anon, the same way most people “abroad” have zero idea of who these two blokes >>3320147 at the comedy skit are. Pekora could namedrop them a thousand times, unless she mentions
> they are comedian, very funny
Moons would have zero idea. Western action movie stars are the same in Japan.

This is one of those Donald Rumsfeld “unknown unknowns” situations: people are so acostumed with knowing what they know they have zero idea there is a whole world of people that have no familiarity at all with it
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Jesus guys can we just talk about Chammers



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