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Martial Artist Irene is canon
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Here I present you perpetuum mobile.
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Second try. Got every beast but Gold Wing which was OHK'ed by Heixing.
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At what point do we move to /vg/?
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Man, why did the devs had to give the animals actual dialogues, thoughts and feelings. I genuinely feel bad killing them when they just try to survive. Like their life is already hard enough and then we have to swoop in and kill them, what the fuck.
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>>915587
/vg/ is way, way too fast. The genshin impact general runs through a thread every hour, no joke. This is the right place, although admittedly I would prefer limiting it to a new thread every update.
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>>915470
i bought this game in the recent steam sale and im around level 12
any tips for a new cummer?
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>>915591
I like such contrast.
>humans are invading
>protect babies at all cost
>gameplay start
>proceed to genocide/enslave every beast

>>915587
Game lack porn for it to be discussed there. /vst/ is perfect for gameplay discussion.
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>>915598
>don't change class until it reaches level 16. It's really annoying to have to fiddle with your mastery boards when going back into a base class later.
>valkyrie tokens are earned by getting all information of each enemy type, but you have to manually claim them
>later when you start getting quests to find items, almost all of them can be crafted from lower tier versions of those items instead of running the same map twenty times hoping for a 0.3% drop.
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How is it possible for Giselle to stand in enemy alert area without triggering them? Because she's a hunter?
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>>915607
does treasure box loot get auto collected or disappear once the mission ends?
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>>915619
Unopened boxes are gone, so make sure to loot the ones you care about before you clear the map.
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>>915619
You need to actually open the loot boxes and once you do you get that item into your inventory.
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>>915622
Specifically their contents. Boxes themselves respawn every time you run the map.
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>>915624
Yep, the end screen is a summary of what you've collected during the map. Enemies drop their items immediately on death as well.
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>>915622
>>915624
should i collect all of them or is it okay if i skip some?
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>>915638
You can skip most of them without worry. There are some special ones in purple maps that guarantee blue or higher that you won't want to skip, and the medicine ones are nice for free potions/grenades. The regular ones are pretty mediocre until you start crafting.
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>>915470
Is that a tattoo or does she draw a star onto her face every morning?
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Where I can find chests?
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>>915716
There's a locked chest in the Northern Tip of Shadow Wall Culvert, it's in one of the rooms next to the wall. I don't remember the compass directions, but it's near where the Big Negooris hang out.
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>>915716
Gisele, Jane, and Ray.
Irene and Kylie have cute moderate ones.
Anne and Luna are toptier but lack what you're looking for.
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this is the most optimal Martial artist build
don't even @ me
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>>915610
It is because of hunter, yea, specifically the 'Camouflage mastery'. As long as all the tiles you step through in an enemy's alert area are either bush or high cover (without being flanked) you will remain undetected
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>>915781
lmao
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>>915781
>Keyboard Warrior
Nice, I didn't knew that one.
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>>915708
It was never explicitly said. In her recruitmeng quest Albus asks the population about "a red haired girl with a star tattoo on her cheek" or something like that, but it is likely he just doesn't know any better. She is old enough and punk enough to get it but also autistic enough to draw it on daily. Truly a mystery.
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>>915805
while i made it exclusively for meme purposes, it ended up performing way better than expected. Fire is a very self-sufficient ESP type
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>>915781
Wouldn't a fire ESP build be better as a Battle Mage?
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>>915643
I've seen some white chests, are those the special ones? They do seem to give significantly better loot than the black chests.
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>>915914
Yeah they're white with blue highlights
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>>915912
battlemage has1 less support slot so it can't fit all those masteries (without sacrificing something else) but yeah with some modifications it'd probably be better on BM
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>>915781
I went ahead with the meme and I think i've improved it. Managed to fit in the Dancing Flame set for guaranteed burn on fire attacks (thus making Flames of Vengeance activate more reliably) + extra fire crit damage and extra dmg on burning targets
Had to sacrifice Hellfire for this though. The loss of armor disabling hurts but it was the only consistently useful part of the set (the build already has enough regen.
Finally I managed to fit in Lone Wolf for extra hit chance because otherwise she misses quite a bit
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>>916337
If you were to commit to a build like that from the start you could prioritise accuracy on equipment so she could have Catharsis or something.
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>>916354
I just use the 5 pieces of the martial arts set 2bh, provides a lot of other bonuses (stun immunity, -30% block shred, copious amounts of block and melee damage).
As for catharsis, this build already has Pyromaniac for it (-1 turn CD on fire crit), and, failing that, you can just standby in the middle of the flames to let Joy of Burning bring you instant turns until your CDs are up
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>>916369
Oh yeah I forgot about Pyromaniac's cooldown reduction.
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>>915781
Here is the most optimal martial artist build.
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>>916394
sorry kid, i am someone who has sex, so battlemage is a no-go for me
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>>915470
The writing is so fucking shit.
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>>915723
>Forgetting the breast girl and wife of mine, Alisa
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>>916420
home sex does not count.
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why are there maps with over 100 enemies in chapter 2? please tell me it doesnt get worse, they already take over an hour to do even with very fast animations and ai mode for the police
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>>916682
It's not unusual for me to take 1-2 hours per map.
Some cases may take even longer.
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>>916682
Hehe.
>>915573
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>>916682
The purple maps are especially dense. Normally enemy count is around 70-80 for story maps and blue maps, and 140ish for purple maps. There are some pretty dense story maps with purplelike enemy counts, though.
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I think my Anne doesn't really like Giselle and Irene...
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>>916695
Cucked by line of sight
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>>916682
>please tell me it doesnt get worse, they already take over an hour to do
Anon, I...
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He did it! Believe in your dreams, anons!
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>>916686
>The gauntlet with two exits where the tigers can rush a police checkpoint in 50 and if they kill the 4 cops there you fail the mission.
Only mission i did on easy. Im not even ashamed.
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>>916718
>tfw no downtime conversation scenes between Giselle's pets
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>>916722
I tried that one four or five times before giving up and doing it on Story mode.
I also did every DLC mission on Story mode. I can't deal with the stat inflation.
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>>916682
on the bright side, your characters get exponentially better at killing lots of opponents in a short time later on
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>>916843
Except Albus, ironically.
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>>916874
He's pretty good killing anything that bleeds.
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>>916884
For me, he's a pretty good spellcaster and scout.
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>>916874
My Albus either kills everyone or get killed early. And I wont have it any other way.
>>916884
I think its time for Albus to have his training arc and earned himself some new sword skills. Preferably the flying shockwave sword attack which Destrons/Ryo love to use so I can counter/slaughter anyone at range.
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Jesus christ, no wonder these things hurt so much
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>>916902
And here's his default mastery loadout that I haven't touched
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>>916902
>no cast delay
>9 vigor needed
Thanks game.
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>>916902
you havent seen shit, my man.
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>>916718
What a lucky fella...
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>>916682
If only you knew how bad things are
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>>916874
wdym ? Curse of the Sword is powerful
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>>916874
brainlet.
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>>917251
>only two multi-hit attacks
>one is a SP skill
>the other one has shit attack range, damage radius and scales with ESP power
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>even credits doesn't respect your time
So tiresome.
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>>917281
Behold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ooP3hap34
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>>917307
Holy shit...
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>>917307
How does he reset main attack ability? My Albus is always get hit with 1-turn CD on main attack after enemy is killed.
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>>917322
Catharsis lowers all skill cooldowns by one when you kill an unharmed enemy, I think that would do it.
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>>917307
kinda meme and wont work on higher difficulties.
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>>917322
He uses Catharsis and One Strike, One Head
btw this kind of thing may not be possible in the future, the devs have started a steam thread where they discuss how to avoid infinite turn
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>>917444
>higher difficulties
The dude plays on Cruel and probably Challenge too. You can see it's Cruel because every normal ennemies have the Elite crown
>meme
I mean, that more or less the only way (and reason) to play MK
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>Hanson dropped Self-Examination
welp, time to redo all of my mastery boards
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I don't think my brain is big enough for superstar leton. I got him to level 16, so I think I'm just going to switch back to martial artist. All I need him to do is freeze people and not die, and martial artist should be better at not dying.
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>>917488
Superstar is more of a support/damage class. Messing around with allies' and enemies' AT is sorta neat and he can incapacitate people pretty well. Having each move slightly increase your durability is kinda cool too, though given how goddamn slow he is building up stacks can be kinda tough.
Martial Artist is better overall though. Especially once you get Frozen Plains, then your durability goes off the charts. I used Superstar for a while just to get the achievements but swapped back pretty much immediately once it was done.
>>917307
Man, how did his crit get so high? My Albus struggles to crit the snipers since they have Keen Sense.
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Just got a Draki egg through the most cheese method possible.
One of the semi-hatched eggs went into Hibernation and started getting buffs, and then right when the 4 turns were up it rolled Starlight Shield and negated the timed instant death. I just scooped it up at my leisure after that.
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>>917488
Superstar makes for a far better dodgetank.
With just the regular mastery bonuses you can get his dodge to about 100% and that goes without adding up the bonuses from buffs or the performance dodge increasing effects.
I personally could never get martial artist to work well. He always AT hells himself whenever he counters someone and he's too slow to make do without counterstrike.
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>>917506
>it's another episode where your counterbot stays around 160-190 AT, but never hits 200 for Deep Sea Escape to kick in
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>>917494
>Man, how did his crit get so high?
albus shouldn't have problems with crit damage since he has Sword Manual and Wind ESP
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>>917564
Not critdmg, critrate. My Albus can hit 700% crits pretty easily during overcharge, but his lousy 40% critrate means he whiffs to often to be a reliable backline assassin. Swapped to bleedknight and suddenly his reliability skyrocketed.
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>>917570
He posted the build used in the video description, if that helps. It seems to have 75% base crit rate, so pretty reliable (there might be other bonuses applying as well but i don't play magic knight so i dunno)
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Any way to romance the girls?
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>>917872
There is no you (self-insert) and nobody is interested in Albus.
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>>917904
Well there is enough sexual tension between him and giselle but he is too retarded to understand that.
The other girls just orbit around heixing and yeah they are basically right about that.
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>>917904
>>918003
Bianca is kinda tsundere for Albus.
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>>918010
Yeeeeah Bianca is... complicated. But she is basically already taken so i always see as bitching and power dynamics.
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>>918049
Taken by whom? Alisa?
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>>918060
By random rich fat and old fag. She is rich, her marriage is arranged.
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>>917872
Despite the marketing, it's not really a waifu game. It was pretty surprising, honestly.
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>>918064
Sounds like perfect ntr setup.
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>>918079
Despite having top tier waifus, good characters and a lot of interactions there is absolutely no porn anywhere and very little innuendos in game.
Maybe is korean magic i dont know.
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The ride never ends
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So I've run couple test involving Ray's mastery set that guarantees side effects will take place when using potions that have those and found the following:
>Frenzy potion' Frenzy turns into Rampage that lasts 3 turns
>Sleeping pill/Powerful Sleeping Pill's Sleep turns into Hibernation that lasts 3 turns
>Regeneration Potion doesn't apply a regen and instead heals however much regen would heal over the course of several turns instantly
>Giant potion has an opposite effect and instead minimizes the target for 9 turns. Gives 50% extra dodge and lowers movement range by 1
>Excitement potion maxes out overcharge instead of applying Excitement
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>>918212
Does the minimisation have visual effects to go with it? You could make a mini Anne.
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>>918222
Yes.
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>>918237
THEY'RE SO CUTE
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>>918210
Draki King (Black) > Rock Draki Baron > Ice Draki Baron > who cares about the rest
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>>918237
we need a doujin about this image
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>>918264
We need doujin about this game, point.
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>>918265
we barely have sfw fanart, even that would make me happy.
>tfw just found out anne has textured panties in her model
based dandylion
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This game looks pretty good, I'm on the edge about getting it next sale. Tell me, is the OST good? TRPGs/TBTs always have bangers but I want to make sure
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>>918309
most of it is royalty free music but I think it has some nice tunes. Can get repetitive, but you can change the battle/lobby/boss music before missions too if you need variety.
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>>918309
One of the best, currently playing Evanescence Fallen.
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>>918285
>tfw just found out anne has textured panties in her model
how did you found that out?
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>>918322
also look at the texture files
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>>918330
What about Luna?
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>>918309
The soundtrack is pretty nice, you can listen to some tunes on Youtube to see if you like it, although my favorite track isn't even on there.
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Just started the White Lion & Black Witch DLC and stopped right when Alisa and Bianca joined.
>Alisa
10/10 girl, muscular tomboy with huge milkers. Also two completely new classes, White Knight and that other, Savage Barbarian or something.
>Bianca
Looks pretty good too I guess, but kinda annoying, one of those ultra rich girls that is very rude and confrontational.
>Clowns
Seem to be the main villain type of this new arc, fat dudes in a suit with clown masks. Pretty entertaining so far desu, you can tell they don't take themself too serious.
Also, Ramjist is Biancas uncle and Bianca knows Giselle already. It's pretty cool that everyone seems to be somewhat connected.
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>>918330
I didn't expect them to look like that, I'm surprised.
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>>918309
Most of it's pretty forgettable. There are a couple of really good tracks though.
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>>918381
it's based on the beta texture of her leggings, pretty cute
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>>918385
>>918381
forgot pic
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>>918380
>It's pretty cool that everyone seems to be somewhat connected.
First anime?
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>>918380
The drifter clowns are absolute kino. The DLC is a massive difficulty spike, though.
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>>918389
Hadn't seen those designs, thanks for sharing.
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>>918380
>Shittalking the Drifter Clowns
They are the best
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Buffs!
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After 200 hours I found out that there is detailed statistic after mission end.
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>>918504
Haha...
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>>918285
>sfw fanart
We have something? I would take anything at this point.
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>>918513
You are welcome.
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>>918513
Check out the Steam community tab, there is some pretty neat stuff there.
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>>918380
why are you posting pictures of my wife, who gave you permission
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>remove Body Training from Giselle to add Shadow Step for the mastery set
>start mission
>she's immediately one-shot by an attack that she would have been able to survive if I'd kept Body Training on her
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>>918506
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>>918515
Why is she so fat?
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>>918520
found some funny stuff
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>>918644
I never saw this team arrangement. Where's Irene?
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Jump back into the game after a long while, playing the Draki nest to capture another Pet Dragon.

Have enemies become slightly more dodgy than before? My accuracy seems lower.
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Is there any reason why I shouldn't take all possible team members on a mission?
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>>918740
No.

In theory the motivaftion system could make you want to bench members so they can rest, but the motivation system is a barely-implemented joke so who gives a fuck.

Also you could be a complete retard like me and not realize there's a second page on the team formation screen until you've already finished the game.
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>>918789
I don't think I know what you mean by a second page, is it useful?
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>>918803
It's so that you can have missions with everyone despite the game only having room for 8 characters at once on the party screen.
Most of the DLC maps let you have 12 party members even though there are only 11 characters right now.
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>>918809
I see, I haven't gotten to the DLC yet, but that sound handy.
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What a shame.
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>>918825
They know who best girls are, at least.
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My baby Rock Draki gained 35% crit damage in a single levelup. Their growths are generally pretty insane as it is, but wew.
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>>918870
you should see the crit rate growth on timas, they easily reach +400% base crit damage
>meanwhile yashas are stuck with shit stats all around and their only use is cocooning high-threat targets like destrons
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Just reached 400 hours in Troubleshooter, my second most played game on Steam.
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Yep, I'm thinking im bonding Albus with Bianca
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>>919026
Bianca did nothing wrong, she doesn't deserve to be bonded with a jew.
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>>919290
>Bianca did nothing wrong
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>>919290
I don't think they thought of jews when thinking of his name. I know for a fact Japanese have a huge boner for German names, at least in anime, manga, video games. Maybe South Koreans are just the same.
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>>919451
>bratty tsundere loli Bianca
Bros...
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>>919457
There aren't that many (((Steins))) in germany anymore.
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>>919457
>I don't think they thought of jews when thinking of his name.
From moment you start game it is established that he is
>obsessed with personal goal
Then you learn that
>others merely a pawns to achieve said goal (god chosen vs. goy) and he take only specific cases to achieve said goal the fastest way
Then you can notice that he
>pay joke salaries despite people risk their necks. oh, you killed draki queen and draki king and made me 6k? That's nice, here is ~15 val for your effort.
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just now realized barbarian has been stealth-nerfed because you can no longer get Hero, Trance or Passion through Lunacy procs
what the fuck
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>>919026
Albus belongs to the Hero Irene
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>start DLC
>characters plan to go eat some crabs
>crab enemies is a thing
Well, I see what is coming to me.
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>>919643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKZDJxhrbTU
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>>919691
I had this one in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM
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Why people call Sion - Vladimir while he constantly call himself Bloodwalker?
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>>919695
They're not willing to play along with his chuuni bullshit.
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>>919697
But Sion Vladimir make no sense. Is Vladimir his father name? Then Sion Vladimirovich. Is Vladimir his real name? Then it should be Vladimir "Sion", nickname after real name. Is Vladimir his last name? It can't be his last name, that make no sense.
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>>919701
maybe it is just a second name and not a patronymic nor a surname
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>>919701
>It can't be his last name, that make no sense.
Because "Bloodwalker" makes sense as a last name?
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>>919713
Bloodwalker is 12yo edgy boy last name who run away from home, in such context Bloodwalker make sense.
And I guess you missed my point. Vladimir (Bлaдимиp) is Russian first name and is used as such ex. Vladimir Putin. If you put first name as last name - this will make no sense.
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>>919775
just because the name is russian doesn't mean it has to follow russian conventions, specially in a setting where russia doesn't even exist.
On the other hand, the best girl has a proper patronymic, so i wouldn't know what to tell you, really
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>>919775
I don't think Koreans care about Russian naming conventions bro.

This is the same company that literally named a character "White the White."
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>>919782
I don't know, an anon above you already said Alisa Ivanova is correctly written and you need to look up the way to write it correctly, couldn't be an accident. So I thought that maybe there was something else lore-wise in Sion case.
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>>919529
Oh yeah? Then how come their names have the same meaning?
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Berserker Alisa is retarded. She's literally soloing this entire level without even getting a turn. Doesn't even matter if she's taking 4 times her max HP in damage for every attack if she can't go below 1 HP until her buffs run out, and her buffs never ever run out since she's getting deeper into AT hell with every retard that commits suicide against her, so she's not getting any turns to actually tick down her buff counters.
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>>920222
You know you can prevent her to go into AT hell with Frenzied Charge right
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>>920222
If I was going to make my own clone of the game I'd change most buffs and debuffs to be AT-based instead of turn-based.
>>920253
He knows, but he's abusing it by loading her up on buffs that never run out because she never actually gets a turn.
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>>920222
Berserker doesn't activate once you reach 1 HP, how are you going to deal damage then?
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>>920276
...Counterattack?
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>>920281
If you are going to use a counterattack bot may as well use MA Leton or GS Albus
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>>920290
Those aren't immortal. They might be hard to kill but sooner or later they'll get fucked by RNG or simply overwhelmed if there are enough enemies. Berserker Alisa literally can't go below 1HP while her buffs are up and is immune to most debuffs as well.

Leton and Albus also aren't useable in that mission.
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>>920259
>I'd change most buffs and debuffs to be AT-based instead of turn-based.
>making low/0AT builds more broken than they already are
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>>920295
How about the best of both worlds like
>buffs/debuffs last 120 AT
>duration -30 with every turn
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Christ, this mission's brutal. And I'm not even at max difficulty right now.

I guess the idea here is to sit back and let the enemy come to you? I went in blind, aggro'd Hanson right away and killed him the same turn, which apparently signaled the entire fucking map to move in on me.
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>>920420
At least Kylie didn't die, that's good.
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>>920424
Her and Alisa carried me through this mission. Heixing bro was just along for the ride and was lucky nobody ever targeted him.
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>>920428
Remember when missions were easy with just Albus, Sion and Irene on the team? Now you have this whole lineup of highly min-maxed super soldiers and still get your ass kicked somehow.
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>>920420
Once you get to a certain point the game doesn't really become much harder on higher difficulties. There's more enemy density, but it doesn't matter a lot. Their stats are pretty much the same, all their threat comes from their items and their builds, neither of which change.
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>>920330
I like this one, though 120 AT is a tad low, that's like a 2 turn duration for a lot of characters.
>>920420
That mission took me a few tries to complete. Fuck Mark with his million attacks that delay cds +silence (nigger rolled 2nd heart multiple times too), fuck that stupid Lightningcron who loves to waddle over and 1shot my backline with electrocute/grenades, and most of all fuck Destrons and their godforsaken firewalls that let them kill my tanks for 3 rounds before I can finally hack them 1 at a time.
My strat was just sending most of the scrubs leftside to support the rightside and eliminate attackers in order of priority.
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>>920451
When it was just Albus, Sion and Irene they didn't have to go up against paramilitary organizations using illegal murderbots.
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>start mission
>IT'S BICRON/DESTRON TIME
>abandon mission
>equip EMP
>start mission
Stupid that we can't change loadouts after mission briefing.
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>>921128
You're going to love the EMP shielded Destrons.
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>>921130
Well, yes, I do have Kylie but EMP against bicrons is god send.
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Update on the 26th.

>We are going to have an update to fix bugs and to add insufficient contents found after the last DLC completion update.
>The development team hasn't been able to create much new content until this update. We are sorry to our users.
>From the next update onwards, we will try our best to introduce new contents again.
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>>921147
The sorry count per post is ridiculously high
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>>921147
It saddens me to see such ambitious, kindhearted people apologize to me for insufficient content. It was sufficient for me!
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>>921147
Absolute madmen.
All they really need is to add more quests so they don't run out halfway through the game. It would be nice to have some more DLC-tier maps so the jurisdictions are more balanced, but it's not something that would make or break the game.
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>>921147
>More free content with even more free content lined up in the future
Let me give you money you fucking hacks. Stop giving out so much shit for free, the second game will never happen because of this
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>>921130
Finally fought against them. Well. Fuck them. I'm actually mad, such bullshit enemy.
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>>921338
Hell let me donate money to you at this point, they've given so much and are apologetic they aren't giving more
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>>921338
>tfw I bought the artbook and the soundtrack
>I'm not even all that interested in either of them
>it's just the only way to give these chucklefucks money
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>>921588
>>921338
You can always buy more copies and gift them to random people. Concept of fucking something for everyone else because you just want it to is quite ridiculous and I'm glad devs have semblance of honor to at least deliver something on their promises.
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>>921596
I hate the new Steam gift system though. You can't just keep a bunch of games in your inventory anymore and give them out at random like you used to, you have to directly buy it for someone in your friendlist.
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>>921596
>implying I have friends to gift things to
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>>921147
>to add insufficient contents found after the last DLC completion update.
what does this even mean
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>>921718
It probably means they didn't make all the things they wanted to when they "finished" the DLC. It barely has any side missions and there are no quests at all.
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Catharsis was a mistake
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>>921763
Late game difficulty is absurd and should be reworked. Enemies either miss you, you dodge, block or you will be one shot, to counter this bullshit player characters must be bullshit as well.
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>>921773
Nah, even slightly well optimized team can curbstomp DLC opponents. Them being able to one shot your characters means you can't just rush in and kill everything in sight with no consequence like you can do in the main game.
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>>921773
My main complaint is how mandatory Veteran is. It was fine when stun was only applied from knockback, but once you get to the DLC half the melee enemies can just inflict it, and Crabmints can inflict it from 12 spaces away.
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>>922048
Technically you can replace it with a piece of gear (or three)
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>Found out after 150 hours you can claim rewards for 100%ing enemies
Better late then never...
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>>922301
I have 174 hours and I just found out today that Kylie's super attack protocol splits its shots between enemies, it's not 12 hits per target. It's so powerful that I never noticed until I did this and nearly ended up dying after it didn't touch the Draki King and didn't kill the ice prince. I was expecting it to annihilate everything in the dome as usual.
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>>922325
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How do you deal with destrons who are immune to EMP and have 0% for Kylie to hack?
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>>922536
How is that even possible? My Kylie even managed to take over one and shut down the other on the last DLC mission.
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>>922536
Equip Kylie with stuff that raises her hacking odds. Also, if you can't take them over just try to shut them down or confuse them, those odds are always better and still quite useful.

If you must fight them without tricks, try to engage them without too much distraction from other enemies and just pile on the damage as quickly as possible. If you can get some expendable cannon fodder (pets, drones, confusion protocol, hacked regular bots, mind-controlled enemies) while you DPS them, all the better. Even if the Destron takes them out in one turn, that's still one turn you're not losing your own characters.

I managed to deal with the three special Destrons in the final Violent Case by letting Bianca mind-control Ben and some of his goons and having them engage the Destrons while my team piled on the damage from a distance. High-damage single-target attacks work reasonably well against them, I think Heixing's Annihilation Shot did the best damage of everything I threw against them.
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>>922539
>>922542
It look like this, I have everything (or so I think) equipped to hack chance. 13 is with 20 bonus from administrative protocol, otherwise it's 0.
Even then, they can clear shutdown (from EMP) on their next turn (for me it's 100% so far), so what's the point?
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Fuck shutdown. Freezing is the only answer, plus 130%+ block chance tanks.
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>>922325
>>922327
I'm looking forward to getting her on my team, couldn't play for a while due to work.
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>>922621
Why did you get two pairs of combat gloves?
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>>922666
One for Irene, one for Leton.
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>>922706
But why did Wei have four combat gloves with him?
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>>922709
In case he lose one, duh.
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>>922714
What if he loses both?
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>>922719
He'll ask mom to buy him a new one.
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>>922726
I want to ask his mom where she does her shopping.
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>>922301
lmao
At this rate I'm sure I too am missing something important and won't notice till later on
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>Impulse Field
>draki scale that makes someone instantly take their turn if they take more than 33% HP damage
>Recovery Support
Yep, it's Anne time
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>>918468
This time I got every buff in the game, I think. Incidentally, this setup absolutely slaughters this map.
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>>923830
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>>923830
Heixing Bro? More like Heixing Buff
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>first crabmit mission
>entire scene with dividing teams
>teams reunited next turn
What was the point of this entire conversation? I would understand if starting positions were different.
I like main game more with less VN scene, DLC VN scenes not only bigger, they are dumb.
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>>923830
>375 Action Time
What good are your buffs then?
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>>923991
Overwatch, presumably.
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>>924005
I never got Overwatch to work on my Heixing. It triggers once and then you have to wait twenty turns until you can use him again.
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>>924018
There's a ranger mastery set called You Won't Catch Me Off Guard that refreshes your overwatch if you kill an enemy with overwatch.
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God I wish that were me
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>>923991
I was using Field of Zero, which lets you set a line of sight cone and any enemy that enters it gets shot, and 30 action time gets added. If I run out of enemies I have Kylie use Support Protocol to take him out of it.
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>>924351
>Bianca will never permanently turn you into a plushie where she will cuddle with you every night she is not having sex with Alisa (you won't get to cuddle often)
Why even live
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Just played the Iron Forest Secret Base violent case for the first time, all the robots in that are ridiculous.

Even just the fat drones are tanky while coming in swarms, and their constant web shots can shut characters down.
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>>924841
Yeah, that's one of the situations where you just have to accept that you need to send one of the ~4 characters who can completely cheese the mechanic to absorb the brunt of it.

>laughs in immune to physical debuffs
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>>924846
Is that a berserker build?
I know somehow that's the class to put her in if you want her to be strong but I just can't get my head around a unit being beyond player control.
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>>924841
Don't expect to clear Violent Cases with your first attempt, ever. They are like those big raid boss levels in RPGs.
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>>925000
>mfw trying Starlight Junction for the first time
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>>925000
Sure but specifically all the robot auto-dodging any follow-up attacks used against them is extremely aggravating on top of them brushing off damage from attacks that aren't strong enough.
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>>925008
Starlight Junction is okay but 46V Magenta Street will give you aids
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>>925035
>doing Magenta Street to fill out criminal records
>Wuaxajxkajxaxjax joins the map and begins killing everyone
>don't receive exp, drops or info for his kills because he's one of the other enemy factions
fug
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>indigo black iron parts?
>spare indigo black iron parts, ma'am?
>indigo black iron parts for a few epic weapons, please?
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>>925145
>no enemy drop them
>close to nothing from salvage, lucky to get 1 blue per 10 items salvaged
This is why I refuse to care about crafting, this component despite mandatory for all equipment is pretty much buy only.
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>>925151
If I remember right those bicron bosses in the warehouse can drop them but yeah, getting them is really hard, but I actually love the crafting system so I continue going.
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I am the 0.4%. I didn't take a screenshot of the final screen because I didn't expect it to be that rare.
This phase of the game is making me feel unsatisfied. It's giving me Fire Emblem Awakening vibes where they make these huge maps with enemy formations all set up nicely, and then they ruin it by having every enemy on the map just rush your starting position. I don't feel like I outplayed the enemy, I feel like I'm playing against a child who sends out their queen and immediately loses it to a bishop.
Still gotta do the 50v and 54v maps on Cruel, then that's pretty much it for difficultyfagging.
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Is there an achievement for beating all enemies in the Bianca+Alisa mission at the end of the DLC? I just ran away and noticed that I got an achievement for that, but I looked at the list of achievements and there doesn't seem to be one for just beating everyone?
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>>925314
Nope. I've cleared all enemies before and got screwed out of the running away achievement. I was expecting to get it anyway, like how you can get the achievement for rescuing all civilians in the night market by routing the enemies.
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>>924841
The robots are a massive pain in the ass but when I tried it on Hard and Ben showed up he ran out infront of us and died to a single sniper shot before he even got to attack.
The robot units are broken compared to any human enemy.
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>>925204
Just leave it in their comment section bro, with some broken english so that they understand better
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>>922576
As soon as Destrons appear and their name flashes, the buff they get as an elite is 3 turns of Firewall which drops hack chance by a flat 50%. Your best bet is to pop them as early as possible and let them dick around for a few turns to make it drop off as soon as possible.
>>924514
I tried using that, but my Heixing is so goddamn fast and resets his turn every 2 kills (plus has loads of free Overwatch) so the ult doesn't make a difference.
>>925204
At least the map was easier the 2nd time around imo
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>>926136
>As soon as Destrons appear and their name flashes, the buff they get as an elite is 3 turns of Firewall which drops hack chance by a flat 50%
FACKIN BULLSHIT
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>see robot
>throw EMP grenade
>he is shutdown for 3 turns
>you disaasemble him
simple as that
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>>926238
I wish you could carry grenades in the potion slot instead of the accessory slot.
Potions usually aren't worth it when it comes to healing, the effect of your trinkets is more important.
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>>926238
>see robot
>throw EMP grenade
>he is shutdown for 3 turns
>he clear shutdown on his turn (5 AT from EMP throw)
>because he can
simple as that
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>>918285
>>918322
>>918330
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so how insane do the characters get when you reach later in the game?
i got heixing today and the fucker has been curvestomping every battle with sweeping fire
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>>926266
Most characters get pretty broken, but the enemies get bullshit to match. Sweeping Fire never stops being a joy to use, though.
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>>926266
When it comes to AOE attacks it doesn't get much better than Heixing. But after than pretty much every character brings something unique to the table, you unlock the pet system with Giselle, the drone system with Ray, that "superstar" system with Leton where I still have no idea how it works lmao. But yeah, I remember getting Heixing was a huge power up for me too.
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>>926273
>that "superstar" system with Leton where I still have no idea how it works lmao
It's not really a system like drones or beasts, it's just something that he does.
Quick rundown
>4 different types of mini buffs which fill up the slots as you use actions
>they give tiny stat boosts while they're active
>if they make a pattern, stuff happens, they get removed and you gain 1 stack of coolness
>if they don't make a pattern and you manage to fill up all performance slots, different stuff happens based on how many stacks of coolness you have
I should make an infographic, it's way easier to explain with pictures
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>>926261
Those eyes aren't the eyes of a happy woman.
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>>926349
Giselle keeps mogging her but not giving anything in return. Understand her frustration.
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>>926351
I guess she would be happier with a boyfriend.
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>>926349
She's the commander of an underfunded police force that is constantly fighting various criminal organisations and cults that are heavily armed, have access to war robots and sometimes even magic.
And that's when they aren't being forced to also deal with superpowered animals that operate in intelligent groups.
All the while having to rely on temperamental and egotistical mercenary groups who get the political support that should be going to you
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>flower crabmit betrayal trigger other crabmits
oy vey
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>>926360
That's true enough and really makes you wonder how and why Valhalla's government wasn't raided and executed in a military coup yet.
I guess not enough police forces for a coup?
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Man I like tomboys and all but Alisa might be too much for me, like I know she got huge milkers, but on that very first shot of the DLC you can see she got NO hips-waist ratio and a REALLY wide back I know she is muscular and does 100 pull ups a day and all but come on she got that v-taper frame...
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>>926390
>That's true enough and really makes you wonder how and why Valhalla's government wasn't raided and executed in a military coup yet.
It was explained many times. Valhalla is buffer zone between major powers. Your military coup will need to fight not against Valhalla government but entire world, gl&hf
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>>926392
Imagine bending her over and just fucking her into her proportionally small ass right then and there as cute moans escape her throat.
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>>926392
>Not wanting the kind of woman that can kick your ass
faggot
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>check case filter
>metric ton of different case types like assassination, pvp, vip rescue, suppression, survival, etc. are not used at all
Man, I really wish they would finish game or at bare minimum next DLC will work on content and not MOAR VN.
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>>926392
You are a homosexual
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>>926438
>vip rescue
There's multiple missions where you need to find and escort an NPC
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>be Albus
>super mega ultra tactician dude like no other
>new mission
>send tank members on one side of the map
>send support units on opposite side
>ensure that there is hard obstacle between support units to fuck them even more
4D chess move from Albus.
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>>926238
Just wait until you get the EMP shielded variants.
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>>926501
>super mega ultra tactician dude like no other
That's flat out wrong though. He's certainly clever, but he's not a great tactician and he's kind of autistic when it comes to understanding the dynamics of his own team. Giselle is constantly covering his ass when it comes to that shit in the later missions.
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>>926261
>Janne will never punish you
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>>926351
does she though?
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>>925204
I think I can explain such low rate for this achievement. Previously mission is, well, impossible on cruel/challenging, so people tune difficulty down and then forget to rise difficulty up and do this mission on lower setting. Well, that what happened in my case. Only midway I realized that enemies are way weaker than they should be.

Oh and Koreans really need to work on their time managment.
>play main game
>SUDDENLY credits, literally zero development on main character since first mission
>play DLC
>SUDDENLY credits
This time around it's slightly better but come on. This side story not related to main story and fulfill nothing, ungodly amount of various characters VN's doesn't help either. Joel flashback's aren't as bad in comparison.
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>>926818
Most of this is because Abandoned Children was always meant to be episode 1 of a grand sweeping narrative. It was never designed to be a self-contained story. Banished Children will be episode 2 if it ever comes out.

The ambition is admirable but at the same time it's obvious they were overreaching for just one game, let alone an entire franchise. We'll probably never get a proper ending to the story.
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>>926392
You don't like tomboys then, you just like girls with short hair
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>>926273
>drone system with Ray
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH FUCK SPIDERS
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>>926970
>webs you up and hits you with neurotoxin
Nothing personnel, kid.
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>>926970
>only 119 enemies
eh? >>915573
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>>926987
IIRC you have a choice of destroying the Yasha egg sacs, or letting them hatch to farm more kills.
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>>926970
I cleared most of the map fine, but the ash monarch room wiped like half of my party, and Kylie and Giselle got killed by a random Red Negoori that gained immortality and parked itself in the middle of my squad.

>>926987
I killed most of the egg sacs in the ash monarch room before they burst open and spilled out their babies.
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>>926999
You can loot old key from sac and then open box on this level with this key.
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>albus gets shot in the back of the head by a sniper rifle with no healers around to save him
>still manages makes a full recovery in 3 days
how the fuck did albus survive the white tiger siege?
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>>927193
The gunshot isn't Mert shooting Albus in the head, it's Marco shooting Mert in the head.
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So is all the DLC out or is there still a mission or two left that they're working on
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH FUCK CRABS
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>>927295
There's an update in 2 days that supposedly has content in it
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>>927296
It's so dumb that they can burrow through rock. Everything except lumber, fabric and metal is fair game even though the map design would imply you're safe on rock.
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>>927295
As I understand it

Short term:
>Monthly updates with bugfixes, QOL improvements and new masteries.

Medium term:
>Paid DLC featuring a new character and missions
>Mode where you can upload your own party snapshots, and play against AI controlled versions of other player's uploads.

Long term:
>Troubleshooter: Banished children, a complete new game.
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>>927296
Why? I never lost a single character to any crab mission. I even captured all boss crabs in a single go on cruel/challenging.
Fair mentions is that my end game missions are being hard carried by immortal Irene (magic castle + automatic iron wall), she can tank whatever, even jumping attack from destron. For example on last DLC story mission (cruel/challenging) she was attacked 119 times but only received ~1400 damage.
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>>927420
>he doesn't use martial artist Irene as counter attack tank
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>>927295
The story part of the DLC is done but the last update indicated that there's still some content coming.
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>>927438
I will buy the artbook if it's a dating sim mode.
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>>927429
My Leton is counter tank and while he is cool and all, destron will OHK (technically speaking it's two hits) him with jumping attack. Irene is the only one who can soak destron jumping attack.
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>>927483
Destrons are pretty ridiculous in general compared to other enemy units.
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>hatch drakki eggs with my queen
>babies follow drakki queen
>unsummon queen
>babies follow Irene now
Aw, they think she is their mother.
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>>927806
Don't let Giselle find out...
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>>927834
Just look at this motherfucker, balls on him being there.
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>>927915
Little king looks so happy to be there.
Hope he's alright.
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>>927920
He's doing fine, just fine.
In heavens, 11k crit from destron in 10 AT.
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Ok, last mission is done, couldn't check statistic because for some reason game immediately loaded bar after last enemy was defeated, weird but whatever.
RIP 2 baby drakes, managed to save 3 and one egg.
Was expecting more from super camo wearing destron, turns out he is the weakest among them.
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>>928024
Forgot pic.
That was quite a ride.
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>>927938
NOOOOOOO
>>928024
>couldn't check statistic because for some reason game immediately loaded bar after last enemy was defeated
That happened for me too once, sucks after a long mission. I like to compare my massacre stats and praise Anne for her healing support.
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>>928025
Where do you get the black eggshell?
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>>928277
In 54V you get to pick which side you enter. If you pick the right side there's going to be a path behind your starting location leading to a room on the left, there are 2 packs of enemies there as well as draki eggs.
Bring draki queen there to hatch and tame them.
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I realised last night the reason why Heixing/Bianca/Ray all have random melee skills is so you can use them with Forestallment/Counterattack. I'm definitely going to try that on my second run.
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>>928618
IIRC Heixing's an Bibi's melee attack don't have the "counter/reactive attack" tag like Ray's kick does an therefore can't be used for counterattack/forestallment
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>>928721
Fug
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>>928721
I'm pretty sure my Heixing's melee kick was triggered by 'Cover' once, which should work under the same set of rules.
No guarantee though.
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>>928775
I wouldn't be so sure about that, Cover/Pincer Attack can use any non-Overload attack. I've seen Heixing use Sweeping Fire from it once.
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>>928721
>>928775
>>928779
Just tested in-game, Heixing's kick doesn't work with Forestallment/Counterattack
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>>928781
This was a meme idea to begin with. You shouldn't let enemies get close to your range characters.
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>>928782
At least now I learned the likely reason why they don't let you counter with it: his kick has a 3-turn cooldown
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>>928781
That's a shame.
>>928782
>Heixing
>range character
lolwut, the best thing about Heixing is that you can place him in the midst of your enemy forces and annihilate them from within via infinite wide ranged attacks.
And his melee kick can stun which is badass.
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>>928785
>go into middle of the crowd
>die before you could reach your destination thank to all automatic overwatch and automatic support fire enemies
>by miracle you isn't dead you have silence and CD on all your skills because every shot received increase CD by 1
Ah, yes, I remember low missions were fun and cozy, even Anne was hitting like a truck, killing most people with just one attack.
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>>928823
I'm in chapter five though.
How much more could there be?
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>>928834
Chapter 7 is last and this is very fun begins. Personally it was pretty easy because by this time game is already solved - builds made, equipment mostly ok, most masteries discovered, etc. Bullshit enemies are here just to check what you learned so far.
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>>928618
Counterattack is just not worth it to me post very early game, that 30 AT wait for a normal attack is kinda bad.
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>>928904
I use it with Albus and Alisa combined with the Deep Sea Escape mastery set that gives them an instant turn if their AT hits 200. It's pretty easy for both of them to bloat out that high with Bladestorm and Anger Strike respectively.
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>>928904
It's worth it if you build your character for it with supporting masteries and mastery sets. like stuff that refunds AT when you land a reaction attack. Great Swordsman Albus in particular has some useful mastery sets that allow him to fully spec into Counterattack/Forestallment/Bladestorm if you wanted to.
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>>922536
I just surrounded them with tanks and then hit them with attacks that hit hard enough to penetrate all their bullshit. I have the machine hunter set on Heixing at all times and Giselle can't not deal fuckloads of damage.
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Which classes have specialized gearsets available? I never paid much attention to crafting before but I've been dabbling with it lately and I unlocked specialized sets for Berserker Alisa and Alchemist Ray which seem quite good, but not for the other classes.
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>>928823
>even Anne was hitting like a truck, killing most people with just one attack.
She still does if you use Witch. The basic heal support masteries like Origin of Life and first Aid are Shaman so you can keep them.
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>>928785
1- Sweeping fire has a 13-tiles reach, you don't need to get close at all. Hell, it might even be counterproductive to do so because the aoe is cone-shaped
2- stun becomes less relevant lategame because most enemies that you would want to stun are resistant to it or have massiveness. Not to say stuns are bad but i certainly wouldn't pick an ability solely on its stun capacity (his kick doesnt even stun directly, it just can cause stun through collisions)
3- heixing's kick deals blunt damage meaning 90% of sweeper/ranger/marksman masteries don't affect it

The closest you can get to a close-range heixing is with sweeper using Close Suppressive fire which still keaves you vulnerable to ranged enemies
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>>928999
Is there any reason to not go Witch with Anne?
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>>929097
White Mage has some really good support options and is a bit less vulnerable than Witch, but IMO Witch is better overall, since it still gets good healing and buffing options but is stronger offensively which tends to be more impactful.
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>>929120
White Mage Anne can become a decent support tank if you fully spec into Earth masteries, but that feels like a waste when you already have multiple characters that make for way better tanks anyway.





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