Get in here and discuss the mod, any submods you're looking forward to?
>>915433Can I get a list of submods? Looking up any of them is pure anarchy. Which the devs might like, but I don't
First for the post-Schmidt Klaus Schwab path.
Looking forwards to the April Fools' crossover with EaW.
>>915442Never played it, isn't EAW just some brony meme mod?
>>915434The ones I know about are:>dunes of dissent, middle east and iran submod>ma mod, western china submod>operation deepfreeze, antartica scramble submod>affrica addio, huttig expansion that seems to be dead>community expansion, general focus trees for some countries>2nd west russian war, lets you fight germany after unifying russia >a couple of mods that were USA reworks that I can't remember the names of
>>915443And the meme is that it's in contention with Old World Blues for best mod by a mile.
>>915444Wasn't there a mod for the Gorky brigadiers too?
>>915434https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2719053325The Antartica Submod released today
/tno/- closeted homosexuals reeing about an althis scenario they could not write better than
>>915457What happened with the redux again?
>>915446Oh yeah that one too>>915457How will we ever recover...>>915459Death by discord
>>915459Too many shitposters and retards. They fucked up becuase of them acting dumb and overshooting their goals. They rebranded to some other name and an origional work. Minutes to Midnight I believe, I know nothing about them at this point. For a redux to work it would need small scale goals that are workable, it would need to be focused on one region and one region only, it would have to be something that the devs would never touch so your work won't get overwritten. Something like post Taboritsky Russia would be the perfect place to start a redux and from there move to other sections.
>>915457Bet we couldCheck out this random low res image from who fucking knows where in the harddrive. This is the 1945 state of things. How'd it happen? What will happen?
>>915434>>915433Torch of liberty and Yomo No Umi are the ones i'm looking forward to the most, mainly because they'll have it so the politics of the US and the Pacific aren't utterly retarded.
>>915576how about the community expansion?
Russian reworks look more promising after Q&A.If new trotskyist Krasnoyarsk actually follows real Trotsky's ideas, it should be just behind Omsk and Tukhachevsky in terms of militarism and warmongering. And crushing SBA as them would be fucking hilarious. Trotsky killing anarchist's state yet again.
how's the Antartica submod?
>>915620I wouldn't know maybe someone else could tell you. I heard they were dead and hand beef with the devs but I can't say.
>>915770Its neat, fairly challenging too at least when playing it the first time
>>915832so from what I gather so far.>special mission is basically your focus tree and progress>you got Intel/Supply/Military keep these as high as possible>you can get more of these by clicking on tile and do thing with it (but you also lose mana)that's about it right, is there anything I else I should know?
Polebros, how do you feel about their choices?
>>915904yomo no umi?
>>915438April the 4th, 1984Schmidt was sitting up in his office in the same seat that Speer once sat in. As usual, Schmidt was aimlessly making calls to various oligarchs and signing piles of papers. He shuddered as he read each one. "Afghani Mine Settlements," "Ukrainian Farm Regulations," "1985 Annual Zollverein Summit." He knew what all this shit meant, money money money. These new liberals headed by Schwab were smarter, and perhaps more sinister, than the typical BoD member you'd meet at IG Farben. Hell, the typical Ukrainian field worker lives no better than a slave in the Hitler days, and the Afghan mines seemed to be worse off than the slave mines besides the lack of a dehumanizing title for the workers. There are rumors that those working in the East Zollverein farms are resorting to the consumption of insects due to protein deficiencies, and the industrial workers in Kaukasien apparently live in private "sleep pods" in bunkers close to the oil and steel mills. Schmidt was growing ever more doubtful of his purpose, feeling hypocritical for declawingSpeer when the Schwab clique did the same to him, and feeling evil for what in his mind was revitalizing the old slave system.Was it all worth it, Mr Schmidt?
>>915958Very based writing anon. I salute you. If I could code, ideally I would like to have the Schmidt vs Schwab path have a scenario where Schmidt does end up victorious and develops his modern day outlook and politics decades ahead of schedule. After all, he did say this:>With a democratic society, the concept of multiculturalism is difficult to reconcile. Maybe in a very long term. But if you ask, where multicultural societies have so far worked, you can get very quickly to the conclusion that they only work there peacefully where there is a strong authoritarian state there.If I want to be like the TNO devs and put in some ham fisted message, it'd be "just because you want to preserve your culture doesn't mean you're a nazi"
>>915584EZ>Germany fails to maintain control of the gargantuan russian territory, leading to both re-establishments in ungarrisoned states and in unions of slaves revolting. Both establish modernized communist states>Hitler spergs out and invades again, desperate to wrestle the Caucuses back from the Georgian People's Republic, but fails, leading to a partitioning of the Russian territory>Restablished USSR from the north of the Caucases and just west of the Urals, with the GPR getting the caucases>Pacific Russia is still ruled by Germans, with help from the more conservative regime in america, keeping the Ordenstaat Vladivostok out of revolutionary control>Communist China succeeds in spreading the revolution to the far east, China, SEA, and Korea all become communist states, India becomes independent, Japan remains an unstable authoritarian regime, with a worker's revolt practically on their doorstep>France and Britain cooperate with the African republics against fascism, preparing for decolonization once the Nazi regime falls. They also ally with the Soviets and Australian communists>after annexing France and Poland, Germany does a mega-holocaust, killing all jews, slavs, and even the browner people in southern france and italy. This succeeds only in destabilizing Hitler's empire, as most of the economy of national 'socialism' goes to exterminating people, leading to quick and rapid collapse>unless some moderate manages to lead a coup against hitler, within the next 10 years, when he dies, the entire country will collapse just as bad as Russia in TNO>unhappiness with how the conservatives in america cooperate with fascists will also lead to a communist revolution there>by 1970, Europe will be an anarchy, and the World Union of Socialist Workers will be the most powerful faction on the continentMost realistic ending desu
>>915999I definitely don't want to do that since I think it should be a fun surreal ride, but if some people want to go down that route and want everything to have some greater meaning, then I'd bullshit and say that.
>>915433Did they make a normal UI mod, yet?
>>915999Go outside. Clearly being on this site is enraging you.
I just want a dirlewilly submod that removes all the triggered death events is this soo much to ask
>>916042no it isn't I have a .txt file that removes the deaths and thus makes him immortal. Just give me some way that I can send you the file.
Which one of them would be the best leader of Russia?
>>915904>all india pinkWhat happened here?
>>916085The tsar, of course.
>>916052>what is pastebin
>>916188https://pastebin.com/ HzkWktrphere goes nothing, never used this before so forgive me if it fucks up, just copy and paste the contents over in the TNO_dirlewangerevents.txt the game will start bugging out a bit with debug messages showing after a certain time and this does not add in any new gameplay it just removes death events
>>916085My boy Rodz
>>915999>whatever could the corr- ACK!
>>916085>illegitimate, unwilling and barely Russian>sells out his county and dies>gramps whose system will collapse with himThe tsar is not about to drop dead at least, and his later events state something about him becoming more determined iirc, so he's probably the best out of the three
do they touch on Borrman wanting to make germany fully polygamus if he win the civil war ?cause its funny that they decided to show him as a rapist to his secretary when irl he was degenerate for that idea>several letter to his wife irl where they both speak of it>his wife telling him how when one is soon to give birth he should impregnate the other wife so that while one is busy being pregnant the other is presentable to guests etc
>>915864>>915862>>915860There should be no commie path because communists had 1% support before war, and during the war commie underground was completly dependent on russiaGiertych being fascist almost caused media to take (negative) interest in tno so it was bad idea
>>916417HoI4 has a hobo with a peak following of ~40k whose only notable accomplishment irl was sucking lots of Japanese cock able to restore the monarchy after a brief civil war without too much unrest or reprisals
>>916459HoI4 vanilla and the Russian monarchy, that is.
>>916037>>916023>>916236What did he say?
>>916238I'd argue rhody actually makes his system perdure.
>>916085Mikey because the Japanese would probably at least support his regime (as a nuisance for Germany)
>>916548>>reddit meme image>>"ugh...I want to preserve mein kulutr" despite being an odd autistic kid with no stake in society>whatever could the correlation be
>>915433Where is thr Pan-Pelasgian Albanian path, TNO is so bad. Dropped. No more tranny shit on my feed. YNBARW
>>915584You couldn't deconstruct an entire ideology with a map painting game like they did.
>>915965If Schmidt wins the elections, there would be two paths: Liberal Democracy (National Liberalism) and Authoritarian Democracy (Oligarchy). The power struggle would start in 1977 after Erhard's death due to Schmidt's lack of experience with dealing with the old corporations. Should Schmidt win, he'd lead the National Democratic Party for 20 years. If Schwab wins, Schmidt would be puppeted for one term, the rest of Russia would be bought if Oktan reunified, and Schmidt would not run for office, allowing for an election between Arnold Schwarzeneggar, NDP (Authdem, Right-Wing Populism), Helmut Kohl, CDU (Condem, Paternalistic Conservatism), Otto Remer, NSDAP (Fascism, Reformed National Socialism), and Franz Vranitzky, SDP (Social Democracy, Left Wing Populism).
Trans women are women.
I wish they added some content for Free France. Just watching De Gaulle sitting on his ass in Africa while the mainland is mostly Burgundy is pretty depressing.Also it could be an occasion to have them join the OFN and add some content for America in Africa.And imagine Free French landing in France and dabbing on Burgundy (with the Reich’s approval)… VGH!
>>916961>OktanYeltsin.Oktan should instead start a minigame like when Italy goes democratic. Japan, USA and Germany will have to play to see who gets what. Each region is a different round of that game. Winning round grants you region as a puppet and round where nobody wins leaves that region as failstate which instead gives all rights to its resources to country which were closest to victory.
>>916967TNO Millennium Dawn should have a USA Epstein path just for the lulz. It would end with impeachment for lying under oath for the same reason as Clinton, but about a girl ten years younger than Lewinsky. It would also result in Chris Hansen defecting from NBC and becoming a German news anchor and a potential cabinet member in the Upper Party (Fascist Speer wins before this btw). Anti Semitism would rise worldwide and the NPP-Y would re emerge
>>916961>>917022These are fucking wonderful. I also want to add on and say that for a Speer victory path aka Dengist Speer, near the end of his term, he has to choose between two people for his successor. The first person would be Karl Carstens, who would continue Speer's policies down to the letter.The second choice would be Erich Honecker, and in this case, it'd be Nazbol Xiist Honecker.He would do the following:>declare himself the volksführer of the Reich and demand that people address him by his title first, creating a cult of personality>expand on the netzram network, using it as a means to implement his "sozialkreditsystem", in order to root out any traitors and rebels to the system and install obedience into the populace>return some of hitler's policies that speer revoked>if serov becomes the leader of russia, he will propose a mutual alliance between the two nations due to their shared ideology (serov's ordosocialism and honecker's nazbol policies)>if reagan becomes the president, have him support honecker due to his party being infiltrated by nazbols and his alzheimer's getting worse in this timeline
>>917073>return some of hitler's policies that speer revokedThe only Hitlerist policies I can think of that would re emerge are the Nuremburg laws (Replacing German/Nordic with Native European to include Slavs and ostrisize Jews), and the Price Controls that Erhard got rid of. Any other ideas?>if serov becomes the leader of russia, he will propose a mutual alliance between the two nations due to their shared ideologyHonecker should rise to power as a Russian diplomat that negotiates a peace treaty with Serov to prevent a 2WRW, peacefully ceding a third of Moskowein incuding Moscow itself, and allowing a slow entry to the Zollverein. This decisive diplomatic success would drastically improve Honecker's status in the eyes of Germans, Russians, and the International Community. Eventually the Ordosocialist USSR would be ceded all of the non-German parts of Moskowein when it becomes economically integrated with the Zollverein.>if reagan becomes the president, have him support honecker due to his party being infiltrated by nazbols and his alzheimer's getting worse in this timelineBased reverse cold war ending lmao
>>915438>>915958>>915965>>916961>>917022>>917073>>917134submod for TNO: A New Millenium when?
Me, an intellectual:
>>916568they support Rodz more though
>>917134>Any other ideas?Numenberg laws I definitely can see being updated with the inclusion of slavs. He could also turn the SS into a more Stasi like organization with even more monitoring but fanatical to him instead of Himmler. Maybe reform the megacorps into state enterprises to fit the nazbol meme. I'm not sure.>Russian diplomat that negotiates a peace treaty with Serov to prevent a 2WRWThat sound like a good idea for the premise actually. I was going to do something similar to how China buys up lands and property and jacks up the prices heavily so the natives there can't afford housing since everything is really expensive.Also yes Yockey would get along with Honecker. He was a nazbol somewhat in OTL so I can see him allying with them.
>>917155For me it's Nazi Demons from last thread
>>917201Also, I think his ideology should be a subideology of National Socialism. Not Ordosocialism since that belongs ot Serov, but something similar. People's State Nazism?
>>917272Nah I prefer Socialism Nationalist so that you can go with (john) Zina joke
>>917284Yeah, that's a much better choice for a name.>subideology: socialist nationalism>icon is the swastika facing the other way>description is about how its totally not nazism and is instead an original ideology created by the glorious volksführer honecker with only a few differences here and there
DO IT FOR HERBalbo is the only hope for this mod but i am sure at 100% that he will fall because muh fascism is doomed to fail
>>917320Where's my Esoteric Nazi Evola path?
>>917334no one is pagan in italyGiani is the best for the esoteric meme
>>917336Talk about wasted potential, holy shit.>have a metric fuckton of commie/leftist paths for italy>didn't even make one for evolaThese fucking devs man. I swear.
>>917348TNO team are commies so naturally making everyone in italy commie-atheist-pro gay in 1 year is possible.
>>917336>no one is pagan in italyimplying catholics
>>917354even commies are catholics in italy
post my ww2-axis win version from last thread
>>917359just as bad
>>917155anons itt should really start working on it
>>917400Maybe, but people pointed out what things should be fixed in last thread, if you wanted to get praise or continue the discussion you would have listened to those complaints
>>917403but my lore fix all your problems
>>917304totaly not nazis bros
>>915433Fuck off with your generals>>>/vg/gsg/
>>917399 It doesn't take much to make a mod especially with the tutorials and tools these days.
>>917455true, but we would need team
>>917461Correction you need a team I have my own projects
>>917272>>917284>>917304Of the current Fascist ideologies, Fascist Populism is probably the best option. However if you want a new subideology, Strasserism is probably the best option.
>>917073>if serov becomes the leader of russia, he will propose a mutual alliance between the two nations due to their shared ideology (serov's ordosocialism and honecker's nazbol policies)And then they kiss, right?
>>917490Strasserism might be the better choice desu. All of the German leaders have their own subideologies, so he should get one as well.
>>917334Right there with the Esoteric Egypt Guenon pathNever ever
>>917272People’s Nationalism sounds best fit a generic term for Strasserism
>>917505>insulting the volksführer in that mannerHope you enjoy losing all your sozialkredits.
>>917490strasserist were all killed by Hitlerthe dumbest ideology ever
>>917523Trostkyists were killed by Stalin and it became influential.
>>917527>Trostkyists were killed by StalinNot enough frankly, but as they say mercy grabs the hand of righteousness
>>917530>Not enough franklyVery true. Crazy how disposessed Trots in the US became neocons irl.
>>917527what's the point Stalin and Trosky are both commie with different ideasIf Strasserism is Fascist then Hitler and Mussolini are capitalist
>>917532Strasser and Hitler were both National Socialist, but had different approaches to how National Socialism should be implemented.
>>917533NopeStrasserist were left wing this is why Hitler decided to kill them all.all people i ever met that called themself strasserist were trannies, anti-fascist, commies etc..They never say fuck Jews just Fuck Zionist-Israel, like all left wing people do.Not a single 1 was pro hitler, pro mussolini, pro nation or having a single right wing value.If they acted like this even in the past no wonder why Hitler kill them all.are like neocons in the conservative party.not a single conservative value but still call themself conservative, just in this case call themself Fascist.
>>917465Well that's aproach that definietly won't help me find hew and briliant minds that could be next generation of hoi4 modders
>>917531Trotoids are just the commie equivalent of Hillary supporters, change my mind>IT WAS HIS TURN!
>>917537>Not a single 1 was pro hitlerConsidering Hitler purged them and put a bounty on their head to appease the conservatives (who would later try to kill him to appease the west), that's not surprising.
>>917359>still hasn't retvrned rightfvl greater bvlgarian land to bvlgarian bvllshopeless axis victory scenario
>>916085>Which one of them would be the best leader of Russia?Michail
What nation or government in history was the closest to Taboritsky Russia?
Is there not a mod that is TNO but without the retarded devs?
>>917399I thought about doing a little work for Kalterkrieg since I'm very excited for the mod and they've got openings for pretty much every position (and the mod team is nowhere near as pozzed as the TNO one) but unless it's a one-time volunteering thing I can't bring myself to commit the time to working on something like that.
>>917703Kalterkrieg will probably be similar but it's not out yet. Mods seem more sane and they Pinky Promise the mod will be out by the end of the year. Cold War Iron Curtain is alright but there's not really any fun alt-hist besides going Nazi as East or West Germany. I remember you used to be able to vore a huge chunk of Asia as North Korea but idk if that's still in the game.Thousand Week Reich doesn't really scratch the same itch. It just feels like Kaiserreich but Germans winning the second war instead of the first one.
>>917708>>917716>Kaltenkriegis that the one born on a thread a few weeks ago where the Berlin-Moscow Axis won the war?
>>917761Kaiserreich timeline, Germany and the Entente win WW2. France is split up like Germany was in our world, AUS took most but not all of the United States, and Russia went national populist and fought Germany to a stalemate in the east.
>>917761Kalter*krieg is a sequel to Kaiserreich, except it's lame as hell because the status quo is barely more interesting.What was the B-M Axis idea? I don't remember that
>>917660Greece joined axis with Bulgaria
>>917359Why would germans be interested in taking territories in central africa?Is it a meme or does it have historical basis?Same question goes for TNO
>>917909colonies i gave them their old german empire colonies except namibia since was controlled by allies.Also since Ukraine is an ally and they are not trying to colonize Russia that's the perfect place>tnoSince Italy BTFO them, they need resource and to control the oceans
>>917909Something about building a railroad across Africa to not have to go around the cape with shipping
>>916025that mod has existed ever since the game came out
>>917532Hitler and Mussolini were capitalists
>>918015corporativism is not capitalist,Workers and Owners are both slave of the state.
>>918032Private property, the law of value and commodity production still exist in Corporatism ya fuckin idiot
>>918043these are basic human rights retard.>Capitalism is when people have rightsLMAO
>>918043>capitalism is everything that isn't communismSo it's true, "capitalism" just means "not communism", but using the clever strategy of presenting the absence of your own ideology as an ideology in it's own right.
>>918043By that logic, communism is capitalism.
>>918052communism doesn't have any of those characteristics, Corporatism does, retards (both on the right and the left) just think that the state owning industry automatically does away with the capitalist mode of production.
>>918047no capitalism is just capitalism, the state owning industry doesn't change that
The process of completely reorganizing society from the ground up, appropriating all capital from its owners, eliminating counter-revolutionaries is an absolutely enormously complex task that can't be undertaken without some sort of extremely powerful centralized administrative body that has virtually total power over all of society, and the second that happens, the intended goal of creating a classless stateless society is dead. Not only is this a sound logical conclusion, but every single communist revolution has followed the same pattern, there is no waving a magic wand and redistributing the means of production, the task is simply too monumental to accomplish without centralized authority, and once that happens you have complete totalitarianism, thus the entire point of the revolution in the first place is null, therefore communism is self defeating and no revolution will ever actually achieve the intended outcome of communism as it is theorized on paper.
>>918061the communist revolutions during 1917-1923 failed because the world revolution failed and because of how internationally entrenched capitalism is a single nation by itself cannot get rid of it. Which is why a world revolution is required.
>>918043There are a capitalist, a fascist and a communistThe same question for all of them"What makes people equal?"Caputalist: When they have the same possibility Fascist: When they have the same responsibilityCommunist: When they have the same propertyCommunist alienate humanity into inanimate objects
>>918062>muh world revolution
>>918067this sounds like a political joke that a female comedian would say
>>918069almost happened in the aftermath of ww1 i guess
>>918070Is the total truthImagine using as standard of equality money.Total absense of moralityImagine being so greed
>>918062Communism is the union of greed and sloth.Want someone things without do absolute nothing for it.
>>918076sure it is buddy
>>918075>>918078>no argument>replay to fake some superiority Communism at his finestPls argue or fuck off
>>918080both of your comments sounded like retarded ESL google translate haikus, you're genuinely incoherent why would any one try to argue with you?
>>918084bla bla blaaka you can't argue back so fuck off pls
>>918090shit language learn latin
>>918100100 times better then english
>>918122Industry doesn't exist with Capitalism?
>>917334>>917348>>917353I mean tbf what can you do with Evola path even if TNO were to make one? They probably just make it le bad fascism failstate I bet
Bukharism, the dominant form of Communism in Tno, is less state heavy and favors private enterprise for non-strategic industries (see NEP). Total state planned economy belongs to the Stalinists, Krushevists, and to a lesser degree Ultravisionaries. Even so, Stalinism is actually one of the strongest and most productive subideologies so long you can manage to avoid overheating the agriculture sector.
>>918169and every capitalist states surpass Stalinism industrial power.LMAO
>>917531>Crazy how disposessed Trots in the US became neocons irl.How schizo are you?
>>918190Literally on Wikipedia bitch.
>>918190Neo-con hawks being former trots is literally common knowledge my nigga
>>918190The "father of neoconservatism" Irving Kristol was a trotskyist, Albert Wohlstetter was a trot and ended up getting a medal placed on him by Reagan, Christopher Hitchens was a printing press newspaper trot in his youth and ended up supporting Blair in his invasion of Iraq.Critical support to the United States of America o7
>>918189Not in-game. Stalinism grows in production deviously fast. It has no competitor.
>>918233in a depopulated land after 30 years of civil war?great ideology
The thing about planned economies like Marxism-Leninism is that they followed an expansionist model of production that allows them to mobilize millions of people from farmers to industrial workers. This has diminishing returns as sooner or later you have less farmers to turn into industrial workers. Once the economy is mature and too complex, economies that have succeeded have switched to an intensive an innovative one, which the Soviet Union failed to do. Indeed, by the 60s, Soviet planners were becoming aware of the limitations of the models and toyed with various more liberal or decentrlized reforms, but they failed, had to roll them back or stalled due in no small part to bureaucratic infighting and industrial lobbies that benefited from such arrangements. Indeed, by Gorbachev's time, the military-energy-agricultural lobbies harnessed so much power that they consistently hijacked party policy and he was the weakest General Secretary in Soviet history.
>>918235It also has a solution for that too, lol. Tyumen is one of the strongest unifier once it gets going and starts with his 5-year plans mechanics. However, it must be managed by a human, because the AI doesn't know how to use its mechanics.
>>918247LmaoGermany is doomed to fail but not this retardLMAO
So how do the devs cope with the fact the Soviet Union failed? Do they simp for China and Xi instead?
>>918268no they simp for the democrats because they're radlibs
>>918269Wouldn't the current events going on in the world prove that liberalism is doomed to fail as well?
>>918272lul what current events? covid?
>>918273>supply chain disruption>people not being able to afford a home>everything becoming more expensive>government does absolutely nothing to protect its citizens from economic hardship>constant surveillance of the populace>increased pollution and global warming happening at record rates>great resetI don't know, just a few things off the top of my head.
>>918277great reset is a meme and everything else is not out of the ordinary for neoliberalism, and global warming and climate change response is something that neoliberalism will respond to and fix when it is profitable for them.
>>918282>great reset is a memeNiggers like you can't do some basic reading.It's not a conspiracy theory. You can go read about all of this on the World Economic Forum website. You can read WEF founder and head Klaus Schwab’s book, “Covid-19: The Great Reset.”This is not a fringe group. All of the richest people in the world attend WEF meetings.They attend alongside basically every leader of every democratic country and a lot of non-democratic countries.There is a 100% chance that the agenda of the World Economic Forum, which involves a total restructuring of the global economic and social orders, is in process and there is a 100% chance that the virus will continue to be used for this purpose.Literally everyone with any power on Earth has signed on to this agenda. And you are watching it happen, right in front of you.The long term agenda:The population will get nonstop vaccines, which are obviously causing chronic disease, and are also apparently a part of some kind of longer term human genetic engineering program.People doing jobs that don’t serve the agenda of the elite are no longer going to have jobs. They are going to live in midrise and highrise tenement buildings on government welfare (some kind of digital "UBI" system), as they do not reproduce and wait around to die (probably from conditions caused by the vaccines).All movements will be tracked in a technotronic control grid, which is beginning with the vaccine passport, and will be expanded into a digital program for government algorithims to regulate every aspect of your life.The population of the planet will be progressively reduced, so that people that the elite view as “useless eaters” are no longer using the existing supply of limited resources which the elite believe will allow them to build some kind of space empire.The elite believe that “emerging technologies” are going to allow them to extend their lives indefinitely, and basically become immortal space emperors.
>>918273south america total collapseDecolonization in africa made more deaths then Hitler and Stalin togetherGlobalization genocided local culture and their economy, corporation took over the world power.Liberalism fail in every fieldNow america is on the brink of political collapse.China instead show that authoritarianism works.
>>918345please, take your pills and go for a walk, schizofrenia isn't "based"
>>918390pls cut your dickbeing an half tranny isn't based
>>918394it's always fun and easy to trigger a schizo, go for a walk
>>918399it's always fun and easy to trigger a tranny, go to hug your dad
>>918057>the state owning industryLiterally every communist state
>>918374>Decolonization in africa made more deaths then Hitler and Stalin togetherReally?
>>918345>will be progressively reducedWhy for the fuck sake you will reduce number of consumers? Economy is literally built on thenotion of exponential consuming.
>>918494no one genocide africans like africans
>>918345You went from 1984 to 40k lmao
>>917832Africa needs more leaders like that guy
>>918418and that doesn't change anything.> the transformation — either into joint-stock companies and trusts, or into State-ownership — does not do away with the capitalistic nature of the productive forces. In the joint-stock companies and trusts, this is obvious. And the modern State, again, is only the organization that bourgeois society takes on in order to support the external conditions of the capitalist mode of production against the encroachments as well of the workers as of individual capitalists. The modern state, no matter what its form, is essentially a capitalist machine — the state of the capitalists, the ideal personification of the total national capital. The more it proceeds to the taking over of productive forces, the more does it actually become the national capitalist, the more citizens does it exploit. The workers remain wage-workers — proletarians. The capitalist relation is not done away with.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/ch03.htm
>>918862>muh not real communism You know you’re a clown, right?
>>918862>marxist.orglet me send a link from Nazism.org where confirm jews control the world
>>918899Woah sorry anon, you’re absolutely right. Lenin wasn’t a communist. Further more, everyone who isn’t as much a communist as you is actually a capitalist. They have a totally different worldview from the materialist Marxist one? They’re just lying capitalists in disguise. Rerun Novarum? Don’t care if it views capitalism in a negative way ‘differently from how Marx does’ (what? Impossible), it’s not communist, so it’s actually capitalist. Dorothy Day? Once she disavowed ideological Marxism she actually became a capitalist, belief in workers rights be damned. Everyone except you is intellectually dishonest. This is definitely a coherent, rational perspective of other opinions.
>>918915Actually you just have to read "anarchist theory" to see that >Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild.>This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevailhttps://libcom.org/book/export/html/56873
>>918930Now thats a real White Man ideology.Just need to put PoCs in concentrated safe spaces to avoid them mingling with Whites.
>>918930Criss-Cross Theory is beginning to make more sense day by day.
>>915904>>915907konpeki no kantaihttps://old.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/s26pev/the_new_order_konpeki_no_kantai/
>>919017boy do i have a communist movement for you >"Workers of the world, unite and fight for a white South Africa!"genuinely sounds like a joke someone made uphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Rebellion
>>918930>BakuninBakunins entire gripe with Marx is seething and dilating bc Marx hated Slavs especially Russians.Bakunin wrote on Marx: "His socialism is too german too prussian. He wants to see the slav subordinate to the german as is the proletariat to the borgeoisie" (paraphrased from memory)It very much is just cope
>>919066like all of his criticisms also just literally devolved into antisemitism. Proudhon was worse.
>>919066>>919068I think "On the Jewish Question" is fucking hillarious.
>>919076that text will never stop making retards who completely misunderstand the text absolutely seethe.
>>919078You're just not allowed to mention the Jews in our current society as anything other than a perpetually trope canarded oppressed minority or G-d's ch-sen pe-ple, oy veyyyyy
>>919111>>919117How was what I said untrue
>>915433I want more fascism-futurism ffs. I hope at least Muti will be true to the vision
>>919181Ultravisionaries Vs Futurist Fascists vs Technocratic Nazis
>>919183Japan should be in too. Techosphere.
>>919078From the book:>Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money[...] An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible[...] The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews[...] Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities[...] The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange[...] The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.Marx was clearly a self hating Jew, and it probably stemmed from his family converting.
>>919564I still don't know if this is funnier than the time Marx started absolutely seething at Stirner via text.
>>919595What about "that Jewish Nigger Lassalle"?
>>919602Fair enough. That's a contender too.
Is there anyone like Evola or Savitri Devi for the leftist/communist side that would fit into the time period? Something that serves as the leftist version of Esoteric Nazism/Burgundian System.
>>919623https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Posadashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International_PosadistGuys closer to TNO Himmler than IRL Himmler is>Posadism attempts to introduce elements of Ufology into Marxist thought. Arguing that only communism can allow the development of interplanetary travel, they concluded that visiting aliens from other planets must live in highly advanced communist societies and are bound to help Earth-based communists with bringing about the world revolution.>One of the most well-known positions of J. Posadas was his enthusiasm for nuclear war. More precisely, at the height of the Cold War, Posadas thought that nuclear war was inevitable. His idea was that rather than wait for the forces of capitalism, the nuclear-armed socialist states should launch a preemptive attack that would destroy the nuclear capabilities of capitalist countries. Additionally, he believed that this sort of catastrophe could spark the world revolution.
Zaibatsubros... are we winning?
>>917220If you're interested, this was my original idea for the map. The present date for the setting would have been 2933 and part of the deal Hitler made with Satan was for an Empire that would last a thousand years, in exchange for something.
>>919682>Corporations are doomed to failLOL WHAT?when this shit happened
>>919751Nice idea anon, save for the derivative le burgundy. To go for a mod though I’d say we need something closer to present day, maybe from around the 70s, just for the characters. Did you see pic related from last thread? I generally like it, save for some things>Scandinavia is controlled by Himmler or maybe Rosenberg as the Esoteric Thulestaat >Great Britain has re-adopted the title of Defender of the Faith either directly under the King or with Ribbentrop as leader (with national modifier for Pastor Gerecke) >bigger Papal StatesAnd most importantly, Russia being led by the Prophet Josef (PBUH)
>>918062They could not defeat shattered state that was independent for less than 2 years
What is the 2WRW submod doing for Taboritsky?
It's not a strategy game, it's a VN pretending to be one. Take it to /v/.
>>920012As far I know he's the only one who isn't getting anything, which is a shame since he could invade the west thinking Alexei will only come back if he retakes all of Russia's pre-ww1 territories.>>920025>IP count didn't go uplol
>>917716>Cold War Iron Curtain is alright but there's not really any fun alt-hist besides going Nazi as East or West GermanyThe devs said they plan on removing those path's because they are "unrealistic" which is a damn shame because they used to have interesting stuff happen in that mod like the Sino-Soviet Split leading to war or the USA openly supporting colonialism. Shit they even have a portrait and description for Rockwell that I guess won't ever have any use.
>>918282>everything else is not out of the ordinary for neoliberalismKinda proving >>918272's point, don't you think?
>>919564That's not the case at all, the text was in response to Bauer(a Young Hegelian like Marx was in the 1840s) who made an actual antisemitic argument that Jews didn't deserve political emancipation in Prussia and that they needed to be forcefully converted to Christianity if they wanted political rights in Prussia.Marx's response to this is that's stupid considering there are secular states like the US that allow political rights for all sorts of religion in the country. Bauer responds by stating that Jewish politics emancipation is hypocritical as they apparently controlled all the financial systems in Europe, in which this is where that quote you're highlighting to comes into play.At worse Marx is invoking a stereotype here (historically Jews were excluded from guilds in the Middle ages, therefore they took up banking and finances, but it's still pretty stereotypical), he also says that Christians have also became hucksters as well and only by replacing the Capitalist mode of production with the communist mode of production can Jews, Christians, and other faiths all gain political emancipation from states like Prussia that have a state religion or even secular states as Marx is keen to point out some of the hypocrisy under Liberalism as well when considering religious rights. Marx wasn't a "self hating Jew" nor did he hate Jews in general, otherwise he wouldn't have wanted political emancipation for them.
>>920012Nothing, because his story is already told and is all about how he is completely doomed from the get go because his goal is unironically impossible.
>>920536>triggered into shilling infographsDon't let the spam response distract you from the jannies lol
>>920304>who made an actual antisemitic argument that Jews didn't deserve political emancipation in Prussia and that they needed to be forcefully converted to Christianity if they wanted political rights in Prussia.And Marx's response to this is basically the same, except Jews don't convert to christianity, but communism, and the whole thing doesn't happen now, but during his mythical communist revolution due in two weeks.>only by replacing the Capitalist mode of production with the communist mode of production can Jews, Christians, and other faithsWhat a load of bullshit, religion was to be rendered obsolete in Marx's utopia.>Marx wasn't a "self hating Jew"True>nor did he hate Jews in general,Untrue>otherwise he wouldn't have wanted political emancipation for them.Lol. I guess Henri Grégoire's (the "friend" of Jews) ideas of emancipating Jews by forcibly assimilating them into French society and destroying any semblance of separate identity are also not anitsemitic for you?
>>920608It's amazing that you said absolutely nothing in such an autistic fashion. Religion is apart of the capitalist mode of production, to be truly emancipated is to be free from the capitalist mode of production and the characteristics that alienate man from their labour (wage labour, private property, commodity production). So by jews "politically emancipating" themselves by either converting to the state religion of whichever nation they reside in or by moving to a "secular" nation which does not care about religions, the jews (or adherent of religion) will still be shackled by the capitalist mode of production and by religion no matter what they do. >"Man emancipates himself politically from religion by banishing it from the sphere of public law to that of private law. Religion is no longer the spirit of the state, in which man behaves – although in a limited way, in a particular form, and in a particular sphere – as a species-being, in community with other men. Religion has become the spirit of civil society, of the sphere of egoism, of bellum omnium contra omnes. It is no longer the essence of community, but the essence of difference. It has become the expression of man’s separation from his community, from himself and from other men – as it was originally. It is only the abstract avowal of specific perversity, private whimsy, and arbitrariness. The endless fragmentation of religion in North America, for example, gives it even externally the form of a purely individual affair. It has been thrust among the multitude of private interests and ejected from the community as such. But one should be under no illusion about the limits of political emancipation. The division of the human being into a public man and a private man, the displacement of religion from the state into civil society, this is not a stage of political emancipation but its completion; this emancipation, therefore, neither abolished the real religiousness of man, nor strives to do so."
>>920608> Untrueretard>Lol. I guess Henri Grégoire's (the "friend" of Jews) ideas of emancipating Jews by forcibly assimilating them into French society and destroying any semblance of separate identity are also not anitsemitic for you?Thank you for bringing up an individual who is totally relevant to what we're talking about right now
>>920669>religion is capitalismus...Once again proving that "capitalism" is, just like "fascism", anything that prevents commies from commie-ing
>>920679Why did you post that faggoty comic?Oh, I get it, hurhur reaction reactionary ARF ARF ARF ARF
>>920685That's actually not the joke i was going for but i'm glad it still bothered you
>>920669>It's amazing that you said absolutely nothing in such an autistic fashion.Projection. All you've done is rephrase Marx's position and I'm pointing out it's anitsemitic anyway.>>920672>Thank you for bringing up an individual who is totally relevant to what we're talking about right nowHe is relevant, because his views on the Jews are essentially identical to Marx, i.e. that Jewish emancipation is to be achieved through complete eradication of their culture, religion and separate identity, but he is a liberal, so the Marxist bias for their prophet doesn't apply to him.
>>920694>Projection. All you've done is rephrase Marx's position and I'm pointing out it's anitsemitic anyway.Except it isn't, if it was he would have agreed with bauer or the likes of Proudhon and Bakunin whos theories were rooted in antisemitism. >He is relevant, because his views on the Jews are essentially identical to Marx, i.e. that Jewish emancipation is to be achieved through complete eradication of their culture, religion and separate identity, but he is a liberal, so the Marxist bias for their prophet doesn't apply to him."jewish emancipation" in this context is liberal "political emancipation" of jews, which does not emancipate the individual but rather just gives them the illusion of freedom and liberation while still being shackled, al it does is just distinguish the status of the individual between his "civil" existence (his real existence where he is alienated and exploited) and his "political existence" where his "emancipation" supposedly gives him a 'communal" and "equal" status when all the defects and shortcomings of his civil life proves the opposite. >"The relation of the political state to civil society is just as spiritual as the relations of heaven to earth. The political state stands in the same opposition to civil society, and it prevails over the latter... In the state, on the other hand, where man is regarded as a species-being, he is the imaginary member of an illusory sovereignty, is deprived of his real individual life and endowed with an unreal universality.The "emancipation" of Grégoire is the same "emancipation" bauer proposed, but neither actually liberates the man. You should actually read the text instead of trying to draw imaginary parallels with whatever obscure historical figure you can think of or just going off whatever i copy and paste here.
>>920717>Except it isn'tGreat argument.>"jewish emancipation" in this context is liberal "political emancipation" of jews, which does not emancipate the individual but rather just gives them the illusion of freedom and liberation while still being shackled, al it does is just distinguish the status of the individual between his "civil" existence (his real existence where he is alienated and exploited) and his "political existence" where his "emancipation" supposedly gives him a 'communal" and "equal" status when all the defects and shortcomings of his civil life proves the opposite.>>"The relation of the political state to civil society is just as spiritual as the relations of heaven to earth. The political state stands in the same opposition to civil society, and it prevails over the latter... In the state, on the other hand, where man is regarded as a species-being, he is the imaginary member of an illusory sovereignty, is deprived of his real individual life and endowed with an unreal universality.You admit that Marx's endgoal is to eradicate Jewish identity, so I accept your concession.
>>920764The abolition of capitalism and by extension religion is not a position held exclusively for judaism but for all religions. But you got the (You)s you wanted while putting in the minimum amount of effort, so run along now.
>>915443EAW is unironically the best mod for HOI4. I've never watched MLP and I have no intention of ever doing so, but what these russian bronies have created is one of the few mods that doesn't forsake gameplay for story, unlike TNO. It's fun to play, fun to read, has countries with interesting mechanics.
>>920781I still think OWB is better
>>920781Those who sacrifice good gameplay for good story gain neither.
>>920783It's more mechanically ambitious, and I applaud it for that. But with ambition comes jank, and OWB just never hit a moment for me where it felt like it was firing on all cylinders the way EaW does. Maybe with a few more years of sorting shit out it can edge out the top spot, but in the meantime, I'll just keep laughing at the tankies and stormfags never looking up from their hatefuck to realize how utterly BTFO they got by a bunch of zoophiles.
When will it update?
Compat patch when?New content when?Not had any nation or regional content now since November 2020.
>>916268>Borrman wanted germany to be fully polygamusis this true ?
>>916268https://youtu.be/4b2j-OzdxiEThey removed one of their only good events.
>>920771>nuh uh!>>918927The commie didn’t reply to this one because it btfos him
>>921389Noone replied to it because it was incoherent retardation, it puts a book written by the fucking papacy and Dorothy Day in the same line as Marx and Lenin, might as well throw Bernie Sanders and Obama in as well.
Why do Marxists support more immigration? Doesn't that hurt the working class since they will work for lower wages and also displace the current workers, while at the same time being more loyal to corporations and CEOs, meaning they will eat up whatever shit they put out?
>>921444By "Marxists" are you referring to whichever retard who likes to rp as a communist online or actual workers organizations?
>>921448He is referring to solidarists and other moderate wings of fascism like modern social democracy typically prevalent in the west.
>>921460>social democracy>fascistDo Marxscum really
>>921469no, calling them the same is retarded but they both serve a similar role in that of destroying the proletariats attempts at organisation but obviously in wildly different ways.
>>921414someone might actually believe this.Anyhow, distributism is funny. Strange, even.
>>921516By this, I mean the quote.
>>921477If your political ideology is disarmed by basic bitch welfare provisions, maybe it isn't a good ideology in the first place? Maybe Marx was wrong about the inevitablity of communism and he was just a talentless G*rmanoid-brained hack who plagarized Whig historiography but with the TOTALLY ORIGINAL TWIST of swapping out the inevitablity of liberal democracy for the inevitablity of communism?
>>921528> your political ideology is disarmed by basic bitch welfare provisions, maybe it isn't a good ideology in the first place?communism isn't an ideology, it's the natural expression of the labor movement, there is no comparative "quality" about it, workers work towards communism because they think it's "good" but because it's what's necessary for them to survive when the capitalist mode of production demands their death. > Maybe Marx was wrong about the inevitablity of communism and he was just a talentless G*rmanoid-brained hack who plagarized Whig historiography but with the TOTALLY ORIGINAL TWIST of swapping out the inevitablity of liberal democracy for the inevitablity of communism?yeah cause a political movement propelled by lords who desired for more autonomy is totally the same as the proletariat changing the entire mode of production by which society abides by.
>>921551>communism is natural>capitalist mode of production demands their deathAh yes. Are you aware it's not the 19th century anymore?
>>921557do we actually live in a utopia where war, poverty and unemployment are nonexistent? wow
>>921560Do you believe a utopia is even possible? The dustbin of history is littered with failed utopian ideologies. In fact, ideology is a spook. The basic idea behind EVERY ideology, not just Marxism, is that if you implement a perfect set of ideas, you can build a utopia. This never works in practice. Not once. Not ever.If we lock down hard enough, nobody will ever die again!
>>921573i was making fun of this post >>921557 you retard, i wasn't saying that utopia is possible. mate you do literally nothing but swing at windmills. > The basic idea behind EVERY ideology, not just Marxism, is that if you implement a perfect set of ideas, you can build a utopia.Good thing then that Marxism isn't an ideology and doesn't attempt to create utopia with a perfect set of ideas> Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htmAlso funny of you calling marxism utopian when marxism spends a good deal proving how retarded utopian socialism is https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/ch01.htm
>>921477I will have to correct you, you should replace the proletariat with the revolutionary class, (ironically of higher resources and usually pretty separate from the proles) because if the proletariat can be defused with welfare they really aren't doing shit. They are pretty passive unless something they immediately have is being threatened, and even then, in most of those cases, they can be soothed by the boiling frog method.
>>921603the proletariat are the revolutionary class
>>921609this isn't true and it's never been true throughout history peasants don't do shit and would be content without ideological middle class retards stirring them upevery single peasant uprising in history that wasn't organized by intellectuals, opportunistic landowners and general petite bourgeoise failed horribly
>>921613The proletariat are the revolutionary class because their survival relies on capitals demand for labour, they own nothing, no capital, no property and their survival relies on wage labour, and due to the nature of capital itself, the markets demand for labour and the falling rate of profit inevitably makes the proletariats position unbearable with the only avenue towards survival being revolution. While the peasantry and the middle class do own capital as petty landowners who have a stake in the capitalist mode of production while the proletariat have none. The proletariat's existence as a class is unbearable, and it can only do away with this condition by forcibly doing away with the social relation "capital", thereby destroying all the epiphenomena that result from it, such as classes and the state.>If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organise itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.
Surprised Jim Jones isn't a mention for the Tankie U.S route
>>921710Isn’t he in a California submod?
NSB COMPAT PATCH RELEASES ON 21ST JANUARY.Also bonus leak: TNO now has EaW style lore books for cities across the world. Going one step further than EaW, the city graphics and localisation text will change in the future based on events on your path.Book entries will expand with upcoming region updates aswell.BASEDalso Kaiserreich updates the same day for those interested.
>>921822>the city graphics and localisation text will change in the future based on events on your pathBased, can't wait to actually finally fucking finish Germania as Speer.
>>921822>>921827I posted wrong image.Here is one of the entries.
>>921835Maximum immersion.EaW's influence continues to spread.
>>921836>africa has fucking nothing>india has fucking nothing>most of america has fucking nothing apart from washington, NY, and Cali>Latin America is just fucking riddled with shit
>>921842Africa has no real development yet other than the very south of Africa and even that isn't set in stone yet based on some things said. There are full reworks planned and addition of playable content in others parts. For example the SAW is no longer Vietnam of this timeline as of latest patch. WAW is instead.India is still in very early development, no need for entries yetMiddle East is in early development aswell but we've seen hints and teasers Russia is having a full rework gradually so lore is changing there aswell dramatically.North America is being reworked and Canada isn't playable yet but will be soon(tm)Asia is having skeleton content prepared and written for the Shifting Tides and Setting Sun updates.South America is part of the Illusions End update pic related roadmap.Entries will expand in time as they do in EaW.
>>921842>continent with nothing in it outside one war that got quickly abandoned>sub continent with no content and just placeholders>south American autism
>>921749For real? What's the name?
>>921842>>921836Isn't there a nice city inside Mullers Great Lake?
>>921862>North America is being reworked and Canada isn't playable yet but will be soon(tm)YOCKEY REWORK PLEASE.LET ME BEAT GERMAN AND ITALIAN AND FORM ENTERAL IMPERIUM EUROPA
>>922088Why would yockey fight italy
>>922115dude is a pans-europeanist I expect him to go all out war with everyone on europe.
>>921201I honestly just want a TNO-styled WW2 that ends with the West Russian War
>>917348As an Italy dev myself (proof in image), your closest bet is Giani. He was the leader of the School of Fascist Mysticism, the same org Evola was part of. We didn't choose Evola because he was fairly irrelevant outside of academia even in fascist Italy's height of power.
>>922176>We didn't choose Evola because he was fairly irrelevant outside of academia even in fascist Italy's height of power.At least some people get that he was a nobody.
>>922176Why is there so many red paths for Italy
>>917320None of the Italy paths are doomed to fail. No, not even Giani. Besides, Muti best fascist Italy.
>>922183Idk, I only joined in November. I do hope the ideological clown car is fun for y'all.
>>922176atleast mention him would be good enough I guess>>922185also make a failstate for red italy desu.
>>922187Giani is the only christian leader therefore he's the best one in order to save Christianity in an Europe plagued by atheist extremists
>>922191I think out of the 10 red paths one is a guaranteed failstate
>>922191To quote the Fascist Italy team lead and my superior, "Most likely not. Evola does not play any role in fash italy, and there is already a lot of flavour planned for Giani."Also we have an entire failstate path for Red Italy. I think y'all will enjoy that one.
>>922202>no mention of EvolaWhat a shame but I guess the devs should focus on italy's content rather than making a pointless throwaway reference to obscure philosophy like Evola>>922199that's good to know
>>922176Does Red Italy has Ultravisionary path?
>>922208Please God no. We've already made Pacifica plenty insane with the one Ultravisionary nation. Two would signal her full American Psycho moment.
Aren't you afraid of being kicked out for posting on a "neo-nazi chud" website?
>>922211Nah. A lot of team members are open about posting here. We just have the good sense to stay the fuck away from /pol/.
>>922209Pacifica is a man stop misgendering him
I wrote the SBA anime event. AMA
Gay and retarded, typical of anarkiddies
>>921633the way you say it, the worker class sounds more like the semtex/C4 to the detonator that is the league of resentful middle classoids/failed aristocrats that are the leaders of the revolution.
>>921862>Russia is having a full rework gradually so lore is changing there aswell dramatically.You should consider adding Budyonny to Kazakhstan as possible leader of Red Kazakhstan. He is a perfect fit for that region as big fan of cavalry. He would still have been very important under Bukharin and it is easy to imagine him being among parts of WRRF that got stuck in Kazakhstan.It is a waste to have him just be randomly killed by SBA. Him having bigger influence on development of Red Army before WW2 would also add another logical reason to why USSR actually lost in TNO as in OTL Budyonny didn't like mass use of tanks and was big prophet of cavalry.
>>922281> the league of resentful middle classoids/failed aristocrats that are the leaders of the revolutiontwitter retards aren't leading anything.
>>921936Ah, it’s actually an option for a post-collapse California along people like Charles Manson and Harvey Milk. Mod is independent of TNO and called Bring the War Home
>>922187>Muti best fascist ItalyEJA, EJA ALALA!Are you a dev?
>>922209>herTr*ns "women" aren't.
>>922376Yes. I specifically joined to write for Muti. This idea of "left-wing fascism" fascinated me, especially because it's actually a historical ideology unlike Ordosocialism. AVE MUTI, GLORIA AL FUTURO
Why do you people play this objectively bad, and unfun mod run by trannies?
>>922561>This idea of "left-wing fascism"What about my nigga "Red Pope" Bombacci?Will he get a path?
>>922563people play it specifically to bother you
>>922570He's 83 by the start date. Way too old to lead by now.
>>922561>unlike OrdosocialismI am still surprised that no NazBols are around in TNO. Without Stalin and with weak Bukharin, Radek or Ustryalov should have been around to establish their ideology and there would have been no need to make fictional ideology and giving it to KGBman who liked to make racist jokes.
>>922563it has wacky and interesting scenraio and lore even though it's 100% unrealistic
>>922603popular/well known people bad, hence killing off Rockwell and replacing him with Yockey mischaracterized into being a Rockwell clone
>>922605That’s not worth trannies
Please for the love of God don't be like Kaiserreich and get rid of the wacky paths. Despite what everyone says on your subreddit people outside know it due to stuff like Himmler and Taboritsky.
>>922672Doesn't the TNO dev team despise the subreddit or was that just PanzerLE BIG BUILDING IN NIEUW BERLIN SPEER HOODIE CHUNGUS SABLIN XDDDSS
>>922319Makes sense I feel like Jones would be a real power or influence in a Hall presidency. Just look at how ao many Politicians had some sort of relations with the Peoples Temple before they got outcasted to Guyana.That and Jones' Natural Charisma and Christian Socialism attracting all types of people. I could see him having a more realistic chance at a presidency than Yockey.
>>922675the devs hate the subreddit and the community, i actually don't think i've ever seen any content creators despise their fanbase as much as the TNO devs do, i remember back in their discords that mods would just plainly say that if they weren't devs/mods they would leave the community
>>922672That's how I got into Red Flood and TNOMostly because Taboritsky And the funny Banter between GCW sides. I wish there was more OC about that.
>>922682Why is it? Is it the fact they tried to nurture an "anti-fascist" community and failed miserably?
>>922687no, it's because the community is full of insufferable autistic memefag man children like literally every online space that deals with "politics" in some manner. genuinely might be the worse discord i was ever in (aside from the axis of evil, TNO redux and iron grip servers), Hasans discord is better since it's at least really fun to troll there and in some of the smaller channels you could have chill conversations. TNOs server wasn't terrible when the mod first came out but after a few months it just became unadulterated autism
>>922682They why do they listen to them?>Burgundy too smart nerf them! France should be able to have a chsnce to capitulate them and completely remove the iconic villain of the game at the start of the game!>Le Reich becomes unrecognizable and will always devolve into being Black Gold Red Germany in the 80s-90s no matter who wins the GCW>Reich always gets curbstomped in SAW
>>922672Name 3 wacky paths KR removed aside Genghis Khan II.
>>922694The burgundy shit is them cleaning up Panzers head canon and his bias since he made the and the SS in general way stronger then they should be. The way they deal with africa is weird tho, it would have made far more sense for the germans to have sprung up puppet states like the OFN mandates do instead of just conjuring up reichskommissariats out of nowhere.
>>922672Look at the Turkey collapse leak. It has the Greco-Turkish People's League, the Ultranationalist neo-Ottomans, and the Esoteric Nazi guy who believes he's the reincarnation of Jesus. We're not making it any less wacky.
>>922720I actually really, really hate memey shit like this, if you're gonna make such outlandish shit then put it in a sub mod, maybe it's just me but i find the concept of a grounded cold war far more interesting then shoehorning in whatever immensely obscure historical figure and political tendency you can find. Probably why i'm excited for mods like torch of liberty.
>>922702Honestly Burgundy is one of the memey things I like the most, just make them at least try to not appear comically evil when on infiltration missions, such as sending people with ridiculously thick Schwab-tier German accents to NYC to infiltrate and spies in Russia who can't stop glaring at the local population
>>922176Will Italy be able to mantain her empire in the upcoming rework? Do the Levant, Egypt and East Africa still collapse regardless of the path they take?Is Italy still unable to do anything when the colonies collapse or is there a way to prevent it? If no, can Italy recover or reconquer their former colonies?
>>922730I expected burgundy to be like the TNOs version of yugoslavia and a sort of retreat for the SS in germany once they lose influence once the German state consolidates itself, also expected it to inevitably collapse and play out the mods version of the yugoslav wars which sorta does happen but not to the extent that i'd like it to. Calais is Belgisch
>>922733i assume so, ik currently italy can maintain whichever part of the empire they spend the most time on in their focus tree.
>>922741Good to know, I've seen the empire management tree was split between Europe, the Mediterranean and Africa, does this mean that the colonies in the area you choose to not focus on will collapse and you'll have to reconquer them? Is recovering the colonies still available only for fascist Italy?
>>922749I assume that taking the focuses just increases the chances of you retaining power, and even if you lose then over parts you will still have sway over them, i remember when i played italy that the greek resistance won and it fired off a peace negotiation event series that included like policy making and wether italy will retain territory like important ports and islands like crete, but italy was beyond buggy so nothing actually happened but i assume that when they rework italy it will be a much more expanded version of that.
>>922176Will Red Italy have fun paths? I remember few leaders who were in teaser for them looked very boring like current Bukharina or Sablin.
>>922759god i am not looking forward to red italy.
>>922723If you want serious alt-cold war then play TWR instead of TNO
>>922765TWR is shit tho
>>922765TWR is worse than TNO though.
>>922768>>922772It doesnt have meme-paths tho
>>922775still a shit boring mod
>>922759I'm in Fascist Italy team, but I do think the Red Italy team will be able to make a fun experience for the player. Also both Sablin and Komi as a whole are getting reworked. God bless Russia dev.
>>922794why are there 10 communist italies
>>922984Since the Italian left was way stronger OTL than other non-Warsaw Pact nations in Europe, there are a lot more sources to pull from for potential paths.
>>922737>I expected burgundy to be like the TNOs version of yugoslavia and a sort of retreat for the SS in germany once they lose influence once the German state consolidates itself, also expected it to inevitably collapse and play out the mods version of the yugoslav wars which sorta does happen but not to the extent that i'd like it to.To think we could get superevents with Belgian, French, German, and SS turbofolk.
>>922176>We didn't choose Evola because he was fairly irrelevant outside of academia even in fascist Italy's height of power.This might well be the first time a leftist (assuming you are one) has ever admitted to this.
>>923624Mostly because he was so irrelevant that there's barely any mention of him outside of actual fascists and/or history nerds.
>>922794Why do you think that when literally none of your teams have made fun paths for any nation to any player?
>>923656Have you played Speer's Germany? That shit's good m8.
>>922315most of them die, some of them don't.
>>923700all of them are beyond irrelevant to the labour movement and will never have any large role in it
>>922699Still waiting for an answer on this one
>>923898i've barely played KR but ik they removed this path where T.E Lawrence becomes leader of the UK, that's probably one path.
>>916085Rodz, I really love cats and I like how he stops being an alcoholic. I don't give a fuck about the hecking jews or whatever I really enjoyed seeing my homeboy Rodz accomplishing his dreams with his cute cat by his side :).
>>923656Germany is a great dictator simulator (if not Heydrich). USA is a great neocon power fantasy simulator (domestically boring as fuck if you don't go full racist Wallace or Yock and Hall torture). Russia is a great EUIV rehash. Strange how Euro/Westerncentric this content is for an anti nazi game. Japan rework when?>>923677I did, but not in the wholesome way.
For the devs, will there be a Posadist path for Argentina? Dunno if you're also in contact with that team.Also have a Burgundian Flippy I found a while back.
>>924763Nah. Besides, Argentina paths are already convoluted enough. I don't know what the guys in IE are on, but they're incredible.
They killed Africa AddioPoor Huttig just can't get shit done
>>924498>Strange how Euro/Westerncentric this content is for an anti nazi game. Well it's all Euro and Western writers, what did you expect?
why is the faggy image for this gay mod in subtle tranny highlights?
>>924941seethe and cope chud
>>924950>seethe and cope chud
>>924959how many transgender basedjack pngs do you have on your harddrive?
>>924941the schizo has found a pattern in the colors
>>924921>Team of NEET's and not one knowledgable weeaboo aware of Japanese historyI highly doubt this.
>>924972Just that one for now desu, I got it off the booru.
>>925117Stonetoss is a Nazi weapon of mass destruction that was originally built to shoot down asteroids. Upon discovering its potential as an anti-aircraft weapon, the Nazis ruled the skies over the mainland.The OFN's (Organization of Free Nations) attempts to destroy Stonetoss through air strikes failed. As a result, strategic positions on the mainland were lost.This in turn forced OFN to evacuate from the East Coast to North Point. OFN GHQ (General Headquarters) is regrouping its remaining combat forces at North Point.However, the Nazis control most parts of the mainland, and they have forward deployed bombers to Rigley Air Base, a former OFN facility.This bomber force will attempt to deal a lethal blow to the OFN at North Point from this strategic position.
>>925117Is this what passes for humour for zoomies?
>>925301Quoth the channer
>>925316I'm serious. Is it supposed to be funny? I feel like I'm going to cringe out of my fucking skin.
>>925117>>925325This is almost as good as Big Chungus Himmler one.
Is it fucking compatible with nsb now?
Is it worth it to buy No Step Back for the mechanics it adds at full price? I own absolutely none of the dlc currently because most of it seems to be 30% actual content that can be used outside of vanilla and 70% stupid vanilla focus trees. Is NSB worth it for shit like TNO?
>>925343yeah, bit laggy tho
>>925348No not really, NSB overhauls warfare and war isn't exactly common in TNO unless you play as a warlord or in south africaI still recommend NSB since i really enjoy the dlc and the content it adds but it's not required for TNO.
>SBA got new mechanic>It outright praises you for mass purging everyone who is not anarchistAlmost as funny as when you can kill literally everyone who held any commanding position in the military during super regional stage.
>Still no new nations or regions>Some devs admitting that PW and EN won't be out till at least Autumn 2022. No word on IE and ST.>yfw last ones were added in November 2020
>>925407Tranny new order bros...i-is it over?
I HATE NO STEP BACKI HATE NO STEP BACKI HATE NO STEP BACK
>>925438t back stepper
>>925438I hate the fucking railroad system too
>>925474Its not even that bad or hard to learn. I’m convinced the people who are most pissed about this are retards that just cheese the game and are now crying because they can’t field their completely overpowered meta divisions.
>>925477I just wish I could delete and reshape the railways, as they are they get too crammy and when conquest is involved, it becomes a clusterfuck
I just did a Himmler playthroughI managed to make Heydrich win the civil war, depsite the coalition that just forms and bohrmann getting his hidden buffs to make him winnow like half a year after the civil war ended I get hit with this, literally nothing is happening in the world rn except the south africa warwtf?
also why tf is it railroaded that burgundys economy just fucking dissappears?
>>925529you won, congratulations.>>925536yeah, it's to make burgundy not suffer the billion maluses from economic collapse
>>925544wdym win?Heydrich is supposed to fracture into warlords so we can fight over them, how the fuck does this event randomly firing mean I win?also I was literally about to fix the economy, why the hell doesn't it first check if the economy is really fucked?and why is the screen that burgundy uses for the economy after it gets booted a placceholder for every nation?
>>925582warlord germany is player only. Burgundy's goal is to bring a nuclear war, since a nuclear war started because heydrich won, you in turn won. The removal of the economic system is to make it so burgundy focuses more on it's actual goal of building nukes and bunkers, not selling widgets.
>>922768>TWR is boring>no wacky pathsI think... I see a connection... here....
>>925348>he buys dlc
>>925586>actual goal of building nukes and bunkers, not selling widgetsBut I want German Guangdong with ability to sell nuclear tech or actual nukes to everyone with paths for Himmler (Burgundian System), Alfried Krupp (Reformed Nazi), Hermann Schmitz (UltraNat) and Koch family clique (Market Lib).
>>925596I tried it after cutting room floor was released, they may have changed it.>>925595then make it yourself if you want it
>>925348>paying for games
game crashes when I click buttons what do
>>925598fuck you're rightguess I'll have to load in as heydrich for the end of the civil war so he gets the right focus tree
>>925612better idea, why not instead go into the event files and make it so the ai loads the warlord focus?
>>925611It's God protecting you from this shitty mod. Accept His judgement and uninstall.
>>925615it's easier to just type "ai BRG" then "tag HGR" then right click on berlin with all troops then type "tag BRG"still a retarded fucking decision to just remove the economy for burgundyhaving an economy doesn't stop germany, japan and the US from building nukes
also the state Kalen bugged out in the slave manage window
>>925617To play devil's advocate, Burgundy deosn't care about being a country, they just want to get rid of everyone that isn't an Aryan. Since doing it manually would take too long nuclear apocalypse is their goal since it will more than likely kill a sizable portion of the world's population. Why would Burgundy care about GDP growth or interest rates if Burgundy has no intention of repaying any loan? If the country knows that it is temporary why would they care for long term planning outside of their objectives (i.e bunkers).
>>925626literally the only thing that fucks the economy at the start of the game is the 7% inflation rateif it was even 3% lower the economy would be completely fineI get the "they don't care about the longterm" argument but they're going to have to care for atleast some time because they actually have to keep up an army and build those bunkers and nukes first don't they?
also kinda weird that Bohrmann has a hidden modifier that he gets when he's loosing that just gives his units a 200% buffalso kinda weird that every state that heydrich takes over just suddenly gets negative gdp growth
>>925636That is a valid argument on the subject of the SS economy. Even if they were hyper focused on bunkers and nukes they do need to have the semblance of an economy to the world (or if they are an autonomous region of the Reich, they need to keep up some semblance of normalcy to the rest of Germany). The country is in between the old lore of Panzer where they were hypercompetent and were behind everything and the new lore where they are bumbling morons. The country needs to be retooled so things are better communicated and the economy should only really be removed when/if some economic factors occur (reach hyperinflation, debt is untenable etc). Burgundy has been on a downward spiral into irrelevancy ever since panzer left, hopefully the devs have a plan to make burgundy more interesting, fun, dynamic, and their plans will have feedback.
>>925643they currently still have the ability to fuck with the US and the south africa war, maybe more but I don't know cuz no other major things have happened yetalso what is this and why did it just pop up and why can't I get rid of it
ah fuck ok I wasn't lookingfuckers took half my country AND my focus tree
hold on I just realised how fucking retarded this isI had like 3 decisions to get diamond mines in like 3 states, I got those decisions during the german civil warwhy the fuck does it give me money if money is literally useless for me?
well it seems I can't use the same powerstruggle interface that heydrich can use so I have to put all my faith into HimmlerBOT
>>925662Just play as Heydrich and roleplay your way to AI Himmler's victory.
As stated in Europäische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft 1942This report was written by various bankers and academics and laid out a plan for how Germany would manage the economies of the conquered countries of Europe after a German victory.The report was drawn up under the leadership of Professor Walter Funk the Reich’s Economics Minister and President of the Reichsbank.The report contained sections on Agriculture, Industry, Employment, Transport, Trade, Economic Agreements, and Currency. It proposed the ‘harmonisation’ of European currencies and a harmonised currency system under a Greater Reichsmark.If this all sounds all very familiar it is because the basic plan for the European Economic Community of 1942 was very similar to the actual European Economic Community that came into existence in 1957 under the Treaty of Rome.The very first leader of the EEC was an officer in the Wehrmacht and a devoted member of multiple National Socialist organisations.What emerged as the European Economic Community in 1957 was created by the kind of people who would have run Europe’s economies if Germany had won the war, and their plans followed a very similar pattern and as we see since Brexit these plans are being pushed forward for a single military with a single currency and a single state ruled by a single ruler the EU President who would gain ultimate power under the plans to further federalise the EU.NATO follows a similar pattern, the Reich sought a military alliance via the foreign nations Waffen SS to crush any remaining Russian resistance pockets when the war was won as the Russians were expected to still resist fiercely beyond the Ural Mountains(the very boundaries of the planned Reich) and were estimated to take anywhere from 25-30 years to defeat the partisans probably longer when foreign support flows in. NATO was formed from the very documents that the Waffen SS created in WW2 for post war Russian containment.Why didn't the TNO team look at this?
>>925683I already played as Heydrich when he had his updatealso I trust HimmlerBOT with my life, he already got me half my country back and I believe in him to get me more
yes HimmlerBOT go I believe in you annex more SS warlords for me
>>925705How is it going?
Game crashes when I try to choose location of troop deployment
Is the new update compatible with current retail patch or the beta patch?KR's new update for example cannot be played unless you also have the beta patch downloaded.
>>925718Heydrich just took out Poland and is aligning other warlordsHimmlerBOT has to step up his game becasue I'm pretty sure I have to get the rhine or else I stand no chance
ladies and gentleman the burgundy run got too hot and spicy the game just up and crashed after Heydrich got Skorzeny on his side
>>925639>Bohrmann has a hidden modifier that he gets when he's loosing that just gives his units a 200% buffThat explains a lot
tranny mod belongs on /lgbt/
>>925732 Loads fine to the main menu but crashes while loading up onto the main game itself. Playing this with the beta patch while on the cracked version
>>925529The meme "2-3 game speed only" warning is still there? I thought they already removed that a few patches after its launch in 2020
>Wow, I love being railroaded in my strategy games, I love reading retarded drivel dreamt up by some lunatic who thinks he is a woman, I love obsessing about old nazis as I magically win as a fucking anarcho communist state that spawns tanks out of the ether Have they fixed the fact that there are focuses that will just insta kill the nation you play as because a nation on a different continent picks the wrong focus?
>>926153name one (1) instance of this happening in tno. hard mode: no player-only paths like heydrich
LET US DIE TO MAKE MEN FREELET US DIE TO MAKE MEN FREELET US DIE TO MAKE MEN FREE
>>926575Not him but it can happen in SAW if you play as other RKs and Huttig gets to end of his focus tree.
>>922699>>923898You cut the black tzar, made Canada's Natpops into Republicans, and have locked Russia into being Nazis 2.0 — You still have made no content for either Core Germany, nor Hungary.Unironically kill yourselves you hijackers, I remember the old darkest hour forum — you killed it so you could move control to your discord and monetize the mod.
>>925732Current retail only from what I was told.>>926124Retail patch only. The next update making it compatible will be for when the Beta patch is officially released.
Are there any redux mods like Axis of Evil in development? I know a guy who worked on AoE that was trying to find other former team members. Was interested in Iron Grip as well, anyone got a link to their disc?
>>926604Happens with the other RKs as well. I played as Huttig and got fucked over because on of the other RKs went down the FUCK YOU path
>>926752They rebranded to minutes to midnight but let me see if I can get a link for you.https://discord.gg/TnVRNNzTt5This is for Iron Grip I really hate shilling myself and if you give me a few moments I can get you a minutes to midnight one.
Played Germany for first time>Go Goering>Civil war was kinda fun>South Africa war sent a lot of divisions and time winining it>Woops some fucking retard takes control of german africa and everything fucking collapses thats nice>Invade England, Moscow blah blah kinda boring no burgundy yet>Go to invade switzerland>Winning slowly but get event recession and next thing Goering is fucking shot and anarchy happens and then thermonuclear war and shitI dont know what to say about this mod
>>926752https://discord.gg/6VqDAMRmNz and here is the minutes to midnight server, thank you for your patience.
>>926924what happened to tno redux and is there an updared goerings wild wide/its discord anywhere
>>926923You need to WIN FAST otherwise you get railroaded into collapse
>Axis of Evil (AoE) was a planned submod for The New Order which sought to completely overhaul the world of TNO. AoE was largely known for their team members' involvement in the "doxxing, harassment and raiding" campaign against the TNO team that occured in early 2021. Additionally, according to TNO community lead Calph, the team was made up of "far-right individuals". Because of both factors, AoE's developers are banned from TNO's social media, alongside the sharing of any content from the submod.>It is understood that, as of October 2021, AoE as a mod is dead, with ~40% of the original team moving onto a new project, Minutes to Midnight (MtM). According to a member of MtM's team, they have "distanced ourselves from the /poltards/ that infested our community" and wish to "make peace with the TNO submod community".
>>926927Hell if I know, ask them
>>926934The redux worse than the original kek
>>926934>cucking to get into the TNO devs' good booksretardsnever ever cuck, they don't fucking forgive you retards
>>926934Them motherfuckers tempted fate by making Castro and Che fucking Falangists.
>>927184I mean it kinda makes sense?
>>927184>>927228TNO kinda did this by making Castro a big tent guy with a faction that has everything from commies to fash.Making Che a falangist on the other hand is retarded as fuck because his dad literally had Spanish republican veterans in his house all the time
>>926929The TNO devs are fucking economically illiterate and think Nazi Germany was a capitalist slave state when the truth is the nazis desired a socialist autarky.It would be impossible for the nazi economy to go into recession because of war, even by the beginning of 1945 industrial output in Germany was accelerating even with constant bomb raids and manpower losses. Factory workers were still making arms as the factories were captured>uuugh, buh Nazis are capitalists, economy go boom boom like America
>>925348lmao just get the dlc off of a certain counterstrike website like any sane individual
>>927366>certain counterstrike websiteuhh name?
>>927388cs rin ru
>>927359Hitler was socdem turned liberal who believed free makret was the keystone of German economy and most of his achievments were done by sucking dick of American industrialists.Only France is a real strong and independent country with major economic breakthroughs in post WW1 Europe.
>>927184It makes sense. What doesnt make sense is america not supporting socialists. This isnt big chungus this is just realistic foreign policy. The US has always been rather opportunistic in terms of who they support as long as it somehow helped out with upholding US world hegemony. Did it bite them in the ass down the line? Absolutely Would this approach change in Axis victory? NoThe only thing the might happen is the US supporting more clerical fascist regimes against the more secularized nazi-germany. But thats about it
>>926703>cut the black tzarWrangel can still get crowned tzar, and will still be possible after the rework>Canada's Natpops into RepublicansNot a path>locked Russia into being Nazis 2.0Implying natpop russia was ever supposed to be anything but the KR version of Nazi Germany
>>927407>muh libralsI think being terminally online has damaged your brain
>>926934>distanced ourselves from the /poltards/ that infested our communityShit mod, don't even bother
>>927489The thing is that without the USSR and the PRC there really is no socialist movement that isn't tied to the nazis. The only socialist regime that existed in 1945 that wasn't connected to the Soviets or PRC would be Argentina, who under Peron would come to practice a form of nationalist socialism
Can you finally build proper IFVs with the tank builder or is it still just Light Tanks pretending to be IFVs?
>>915434I play Goering's wild ride alot. Militarised Germany, where you race against the clock to reichskommisariat the world. Edgy and reeks of under-age but fundamentally fun.
>>927517> Peronist Argentina> SocialistPick one.
>>927748>not my heckin true wholesome socialismOkay, explain to us why you do not consider it socialist
>>927764i'm not anon but i wanna hear why you think it is socialist, is it something along the lines of "something something nationalisation of industry is socialist something something"?
>>927764"Peronism espouses corporatism and thus aims to mediate tensions between the classes of society, with the state responsible for negotiating compromise in conflicts between managers and workers."The corporatist principle of class collaboration is entirely antithetical to the socialist principle of class conflict, as it seeks to abolish the managerial class and have workers own the means of production directly.
>>927816Cause it was pro union, pro nationalisation, pro wealth redistribution, anti clericalism, anti class, and anti foreign markets.The whole foundation to Peron's tenets was the elimination of anything but the working class, seeking to exterminate the parasites in both the upper and lower class, it was heavily influenced by the fascist and national socialist ideas of the people's nation and movement, where all policies had to be for the benefit of the Argentinian people and no one else, entities such as foreign capitalists, the church, and leeches upon the workers were to be done away with>"Politics are not an end, but a means for the well-being of Argentina: which means happiness for our children and greatness for our nation.">"As a social doctrine, Justicialism carries out social justice, which gives each person their rights in accordance to their social function.">"Kids should be the only privileged class."
>>927911All nations will have managers though. A clerk can not be expected to work the factory floor in between managing paper workWhat you call "corporatism" is merely the state mediating between what should be regarded as different kinds of workers, a officer is just as much a worker as the farmer or the mechanicWould you prefer it the Soviet way where the politburo denied all negotiation and handled every dispute through force?
>>915433You forgot one Duce
Cartoon Cat or Huggy Wuggy led Burgundy??
>>928624Wario in Italy.Waluigi in Libya.Garfield in Union State.Marmaduke in CSA.Heathcliff in PSA (Collab).Dingbat in PSA (Constitutionalist).Woody Woodpecker in New England.Chilly Willy in RK Kanada.
>>928147I swear this meme is more popular abroad than here in Italy. I don't know why burgers find this so funny
>>928736>why do people point and laugh at someone breaking into one of our senates zoom meetings and dumping porn>i-its not that funny
>>922570not a dev on the main mod but we had this idea going around of having a post-fascist Italy with a party inspired by Bombacci and OTL post-war left-wing revolutionray fascist, a few names were dropped for a possible leader and the best two were Rauti or Freda.
>>922561Okay I'm legitimately curious now, if you're a TNO dev how do you concile your fascination with "left-wing fascism" with the policy of TNO about taking down anyone who doesn't hold american mainstream progressive cancerous beliefs 100% of the time?I mean, they shut down the entire India path because the dev was some weird brand of fascism and I myself were banned from their reddit for saying that I enjoyed their Italy timeline.Isn't the entire purpose of the mod to show how allegedly bad are fascist ideologies? Why would they let you write down something showing how these ideologies succeed even in their most radical form like with the Giani path for example?Also are you the responsible for Red Italy? Because if so you're unironically a retard.
quite a legacy TNO /vst/ autists are leaving behind, i wonder how many comedically bankrupt shitposts it'll take this time before yet another submod discord is made?
>>928776Real TNO Redux has never been tried.
>>928740I mean, it's funny as fuck but I didn't expect it to be so memeworthy
>>928776>literally copypasting a post you made earlierAutismo>>928767No you don't see the dev team has Changed(TM) now, some authoritarianism is okay now (ignore the fact we let trooncifica back in)
>>928767>"left-wing fascism"Well, its already was progressive as fuck, nothing extremely strange.
>>928776Iron Grip never Associated with TNO
>>928767>I mean, they shut down the entire India path because the dev was some weird brand of fascismNah, we shut it down because the content was shit.
>>928890Hey, Iron Grip dev.I do have a suggestion for you. Consider adding players-only paths for major countries which are more insane that yours more down to earth approach since even vanilla does this quite a lot. Easy publicity if it catches enough attention, still allows for normal experience most of time, it gives mod some unique feeling and OTL Cold War also had a lot of hard to believe things happening during it.
>>922699>Czar Wrangel >Gamelin Coup, w/ Commie path (also found in KXDH - Kaiserreich for Darkest Hour as well)>Syndie Japan, OF FUCKING COURSE. (It used to be on the initial versions of the mod on HoI:DH, it got removed as it involved killing the emperor and muh "accuracy")
>>928907Also the TE Lawrence path for UoB too; but I'm impressed that KX had a twist sub-path for him as well making him another Cromwell wannabe.
haven't played tno in months, what new paths were added with TT?
>>915438Here it is
>>915433still cant play tno since the hideous hud strains my eyes. heard its a visual novel anyways so dont care
>>928941None, there has been no new nations or paths added since November 2020 other than skeleton content and 100 days to the two Radical england paths as a teaser for "TNO 2"(1972+ bookmark). TT sucked so much time up due to dev hell with multiple delays and multiple reworks setting the foundations for all patches to come when it finally released in November 2021. TT is missing stuff that was planned and that will be added in time alongside other patches.2(EN and PW) of the 4 in dev patches won't be released till Autumn at the earliest. The other 2 no word, the hope is one will release by spring. See the roadmap here >>921862The intent was/is all 4 to be released throughout 2022.So we'll see.
>>928902>weyeah sure let me just trust you because you are def-SIKE
>>929021Luckily, the next patches won't require the amount of time TT did. With ST or PW, you really only need to playtest 4 nations, whereas TT required playtesting and bugfixing for every nation with content.
>>928903We have to let you know that player-only paths are already being planned, some of which have already been toozed.
What happened to the Ustasa and Ante Paveluc in TNO? Didn't Germany set them up as an independent state?
>>928842When did Pacifica come back?
>>929066checkedthey got purged by the italians post war iirc
>>929066They can take over Croatia, although it's pretty much inevitable that they get clapped by Italy.
>>929112Also note, Pavelic died in 1959 and sold the Ustase out to Ciano, although Balkan lore is liable to be changed in PW.
>>929063Paternalistic crime syndicate-company country Burgundy? Will it also have flag of convenience like Panama and Liberia? TNO's Brittany was pretty fun before it was cut from mod.If you want to add something spice for German monarchy, consider that this exists today.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Empire_(micronation)
>>929130It's more of a "make your own bond villain" sort of thing. Space lasers, world domination, dumb corporate schemes that sort of thing. There are also genuine Hollenzollerns still around and a few were active members of the nazi party like our good friend August Wilhelm of Prussia. But Germany going from an anti-monarchist national socialist state to an imperial restoration is a hard pill to swallow. It would have to be done way later and only if there is a lot of genuine demand for it.
>>929130>cut from mod.wtf when was this?
>>929144TT. Content was skeletonized because the black market mechanic was poorly implemented and causing a lot of lag.
>>929070She officially announced her return on Sep. 19, 2021 with the release of the "Toolbox Praxis" dev diary.
>>929153Trannies aren’t women
>>929153What a damn shame
>>929153>sheanon ffs pacifica doesn't even passprobably is agp since >her weird fantasies about a dead soviet politican who ethnically cleansed chechens tell a lot about>hercharacter
>>929140Oh, if that's the case it sounds fun. Consider giving Soviet Remnant OGAS path with Artificial Intelligence taking over. Or similar thing with Project Cybersyn. WarGames references would fit well with any Cold War scenarios.>>929144Focus tree and mechanics were removed in TT since their spaghetti code apparently was lagging the game in TT. A shame since it had a lot of potential with proxy wars, NSB mechanics and TT economy.
Waiting for the hotfix so I can start a proper campaign. I'm so fucking bored.
Does anyone have the Addio Africa submod? It's gone from the workshop
>>929299Don't think they'll release one until PDX release the official hotfix for base game which was last updated on the beta branch almost 2 weeks ago.
>Not played HoI since early November>no idea how NSB changed things and haven't touched on TT eitherI can already feel the pain.I'm gonna wait for the official update personally. Hate starting something only for a hotfix from a mod or official dev ruining it.
>>929059Each nation has a decade or more of content for each path and there are multiple paths to test whenever it gets code complete.
Is it really updated for NSB or is it like a buggy hotfix like what OWB did initially?
10 years Guyana content when?
>>915809Can't say we're dead, more that after finishing Yugra the team tried to split to different directions which slowed down development a lot.
>>928907>>928908>tsar wrangelHe still can be tsar, they just changed him to another ideology>Gamelin/Lawrence coupsAs much as I liked them, those paths were basically a "press this button to win" for both the Entente and the Reichspakt, so I can see why they got removed
>>929380Yes to both.The "Balancing" will come "soon".>>915860>>915862>>915864Is this old or current lore?God I can't fucking remember anymore, they change shit so much.
Will we ever get an expansion of the interesting CIA shit in Magadan as there are a lot of reports to the CIA there(some are actually broken in game files and don't trigger) with the female Red Fleet CIA operative across the bay in Kamchatka who is an old friend of the one based in Magadan?Kamchatka unification focus tree when?Russo-Jap war paths to reclaim rightful clay when?
what the fuck happened to r/antiwork
I just realized Dirlewagner is literally Immortam Joe
>>916085Rodzaevsky and his tale of redemption and kittens