What is better, grid or non-grid?
>>854541Non-grid is slightly better especially considering things like roads, but both are fine if done well and grids are certainly far easier to do well.
shit did the other city building thread die?
>>855984I think it reached the image limit so it was a great success!
>>854541Grid for efficiency, non-grid for aesthetic
>>854541Nice. Haven't had any time to build on any of my own cities.
Grid. funny how many idiots thing grid is bad when all cities and towns that aren't ased on grids are a traffic nightmare even for their small populations and how even back in Roman times when new cities and colonies where being built they did everything on a grid due to how much more efficiant it is.
>>855984>>856041It hit the post limit for the second time in a row.
>>854541The only advantage of grid (in a video game, not in real cities) is a comfy 90s aesthetic.
>>856471Looking good, I like the breakwater for the marina.
>>854541How do I make the widescreen versions of Pharaoh work? I've followed all the instructions but it doesn't change anything.
>>854541I build grids where I can but sometimes the terrain gets in the way and I'm forced to non-grid. I like the look of both though, they both have their place.
>>856895nice mountain road
in the name of /civ4xg/'s successor I shall save this thread from page 9
>Shadows and Dust adds Entertainment and Religion to the game. It also changes and improves on a lot of things. In fact, so much that I've forgotten all about it, so there are no patch notes this time.
Is public transport useless on NAM?my average bus stop gets 500 users in a 180k city, meanwhile on vanilla half the population were using it
>>859149Bus stops can still be handy as a revenue source though. 10% of my city's gross revenue is from public transport.I can get about 1000-2000 users on a bus stop by plopping them near high density slums.
>>859149I use whatever the main mod for 4 is and everyone has a mass transit preference, for some reason. Vanilla always sucked for me.Are your workplaces receiving commuters from a place without buses? Do all of your bus stops get used or are some of them disconnected from the road network somehow?I wish air pollution went down when people used mass transit or trains.
A new beginning. For brainwashing.
>>862673What game is this? My brain wants to say one of those Simcity spinoffs (Societies?) but I'm not sure.
>>862673I used to have a lot of fun in that game cheating for infinity money + all buildings available and then making the bleakest and most depressing authoritarian shithole I could imagine.
>>862884So it's Simcity Societies or.....?
>>863345Yes. Societies>>863240That's what I'm doing, but without the cheating.
>>861007>I wish air pollution went down when people used mass transit or trains.come to think of it, does bus commuter population scale with volume or is it fixed
The brainwashing is starting to work.
The Paradox one. Wtf is this green dot hovering over the house? The house is even glowing green a bit.
>>864935I've never seen that before.
>>864935Residence of a certian three letter agency.
>>864935What kind of fucked up version of Cities Skylines are you running there?
>>864935Anon... get in the car
>>864935>he doesn't know
>>862884Damn, societies didn't age all that well
>>862884Unironically looks like a Might & Magic town.
What mods do you use with sc4?
>>866490NAM and a buttload of custom buildings and terrain mods.
What is the easiest isometric city builder to learn? I really like looking at built cities but I am a brainlet who gets bored of learning infrastructure and all the economy shit Simcity 4 has.
>>866668I'd say Sim City 3000, gameplay is simple enough to learn without going extreme micromanaging autism.
>>865915> Damn, societies didn't age all that well
>>866713> I'd say Sim City 3000, gameplay is simple enough to learn without going extreme micromanaging autism.
>>866490> What mods do you use with sc4?
>>865973Eh. It's good enough for me.
>>866960Looks pretty comfy ngl
>>856272Where do you think the term gridlock comes from lol
Can other games join? Bought this game called MMORPG Tycoon 2 a long time ago and started getting in to it. It's still in early access and it's pretty high concept, but it's pretty fun. Pretty much you have to make your own MMORPG and make all the lands, quests, NPCs and classes. Has a ton of customization and details to decorate your lands and a pretty janky NPC maker that is a bit fun to play around with.
>>867266How far in does this zoom?
>>867266Can you recreate pre-Cata WoW 1-for-1? Has anyone attempted this yet?
>>867319very, very close. I haven't put in a lot of the finer details in yet. Thinking about going back and doing shit like adding signs and lights and other bullshit props.>>867351The way the game works right now is that it will randomly generate the land for you and then you can activate/deactivate whatever regions you want. No idea if they plan on changing it.
>>867351Here is a very WoW inspired zone I made called the bone wastes. This is a big demon strong hold that are trying to harvest the power of former fallen giant demons.
First time getting back into city builder games since playing SimCity 4 as a kid. About 60 hours into this city so far.The city has no zoned industrial or industrial districts. And yes there's local bus routes for getting pops to transit stops.>123k pops>12.5k weekly transit ridership + 2.5k tourists>83% traffic>despawning disabled>parking AI>realistic population>lifecycle rebalanceAny tips on getting more creative with planning, design, and naming?
>>867542Did you use any special tools for making the transit overlay?
>>867549link to this mod? looks cool
>>867792I don't know. Is Microsoft a trusted application vendor?
>>866490Oldshoes, post your modpack.
New A-Train is now out on Steam.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1685460/ATrain_All_Aboard_Tourism/
>>868442This is a port of some mobile app, isn't it?
>>868442>Not buying it on the switch for maximum comfy.Also someone give me tips this game is IMPOSSIBLE>Have to deal with fucking time tables.>No way to make signals to properly space out trains.>Trains constantly getting stuck on intersections despite there being more than enough room.
Can I get a list of some good city builders? I love the idea but want a list of good ones I can look into. Thanks bros
>>868591Simcity 2000Simcity 3000Simcity 4Cities: Skylines
>>868597Is there one that's considered "the best" or really good?
>>868606Simcity 4 with the oldshoes modpack is the ol' reliable. Solid overall and extremely comfy. Cities: Skylines has more freedom in terms of placement and such which makes it great for aesthetic projects. Gameplay wise it's very easy and ends up more of a traffic management game than a city builder. They're both fun and worth playing though. I suggest you buy Cities: Skylines main game and use cream.api to pirate all the DLC.
>>868811Very cool thanks
>>868811>oldshoes modpackWhat exactly does it add?
>>868566The game runs a lot better on PC compared to the switch.
>>854541hey lads are there any good mobile city builder games? Im always on the go and im wagie so I seldom play on my pc.
>>869863RCT is on mobile and it plays good.Pocket City is also pretty decent si city clone and it's $5.Majesty has a mobile version and it's pretty decent.OpenTTD also on phone and is OK.
>>856594This video gave me some ideas on how to design the city.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0wSEvem5NM
Is New City any fun? i like the 90's aesthetics and is cheap on steam atm. Or should i wait for it to git gud?
>>854541why isn't there more game mixing strategy and city building elements like stronghold ? Caesar and Pharaoh don't really count as its really really barebone
>>870948bruh that is not the 90s aesthetic
I want to re-install Cities Skylines but I always make the same boring cities
we made it to popular threads
>>871011>New CityWell it's got that Simcity 2000 + Windows 95 Flight Simulator visuals to it.t. born in '84
>>871029remember what Czardus saidfollow the terrain, except for rails for which you need to adhere to 1% grade rule
rate my disgusting looking t-bone
>>868597TheoTown is pretty neat, free on mobile and cheap on steam.
>>872642Eh, not really necessary unless I get traffic problems
>>864935Somebody in yo city been saying gamer words
anyone got a guide to making sim city 4 more playable on modern systems? i have tried the sim city launcher which sets it to single core etc. but its still pretty poor performance
>>864935They Glow in the dark
>>872722It's preemptive action. Or planning, as some would call it.
>>869856How are the controls and going through the menus? Any pain points you’ve seen so far.For me it’d be a pirate either way, can’t spend 60 $ on this game twice
>>873717Menus/UI are identical to the Nintendo Switch version. You can scale the UI though so it looks better on a PC's resolution.Playing with a mouse takes some getting used to after Nintendo Switch. I found laying down tracks much quicker using a mouse compared to a controller but your experience might vary.Overall, the game runs a lot better on a PC than the Switch. My PC copy runs at maximum settings with no lag.
>>871218>except for rails for which you need to adhere to 1% grade ruleWhat is this?
>>854541It is sad that SC3 had a literal better sense of scale of all city builders including skylines, it hurts to see a water stadium using the same land area as 3 fucking ports
>>862884i didnt remember it being this trashy looking... are you playing it on really low quality on purpose?
>>876177It gets really laggy on maximum settings.
>>872243Absolutely beautifulPost more lovely abominations
>>876722what's with the volcano?
>>877664Place that spawns witch doctors. I wanted a zombie outbreak but it never works in this game.
>>856477If grids would be so efficient, why doesn't nature contain any rectangular grids?
>>879411We should start building hexagon cities
>>879449Hexagons are only used by bees for vertical strengthThis is the ideal form for covering a plane
hello and welcome to the paradise that is default name "Westfield"
>>879459there are lots of interesting things to experience in Westfield, like being up a literal shit creek without a paddlei hope you like elevated roads
>>879460our traffic engineer are renowned for their creative solutions to deal with congestion
>>879464this is the magnificent view that tourists from afar are greeted with when approaching westfield airport. lovely!
>>879466work is still underway to connect one of westfield's newest suburbs to the highway grid. wow!
>>879469westfield is known for its ease of access to public utilities, demonstrated with a view of the oldest neighborhood in town
>>879470missed your exit? no problem, off and onramps are one of westfield's most important exports!
>>879473Is that all avenue?
>>879473this is satire right
Nothing huge, but I took a screenshot and liked how it looked.
Which Tropico game is your favorite? I reinstalled the first one recently and have been really enjoying it, but I've still only played the first two.
>>879624And another, ultimately from the same region if elsewhere in it.
>>879630Unsure on which variant looked better, so have both. Otherwise that's all I have at the moment, the region is pretty incomplete. Playing only vanilla at the moment, though I may use mods and plugins later on in other parts of the region.
>>879628I have the best memories with 4
>>879473>zoning on a roundabout>6 lane roads everywhere>schools just haphazardly thrown downit gets worse the more I look at it
>>879652it's the Westfield™ way!
Tropico, home. At least it was before Rebs fucked everything up
>>879411Because nature is fucking retarded. It's the original 'infinite monkeys with infinite typewriters' except it took it 3.91 billion years just to make a fucking monkey and 3.999999 billion for the typewriter.
>>879411>>879750grids, nostem and leaf, yes
>>879678Tropico 1 is so god damn good. Yeah it has a ton of flaws but the politics actually matter in the game vs Tropioc 3+ where you can still get 100% with every faction and still fuc them over with zero repercutions.
>>854541I really want to play this game but I have no idea how to get my pirated CD versiom to work
>>856477Grid is bad, BECAUSE it's easy mode and not aesthetically pleasing, retard.
Is Sim Town better left to my nostalgic memories. Is stronghold considered a city building game? Skylines is okay for drawing but it really feels like it's missing the comfy factor. Can't find my simcity 4 discs. 3000 was comfy too, my dad's favorite game.
>>880235Grids are good because they're efficient. Soul comes from the places where separate grids have to merge and interlock to form one contiguous city. Just randomly throwing spaghetti around looks like a mess.
>>859523Ah yes the diner district
>>880162I love that game because of the reasons you mentioned. The sequels are just too easy and lack that 3rd world banana republic feel.
>>880206I can't get my legit CD version to work.
>>880421Pirate a copy.>>880206Buy a copy on Steam.
>>8816253000 isn't on Steam.
>>881814Pirate/buy a copy from GOG.
Don't forget magnasanti, the scientifically best city for SC3khttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTJQTc-TqpU
Playing Timberborn for the first time and made a little dam at this little pond like area. The drought came in and the lake went dry in like a quarter of a day. Is that be design or just an oversight? I thought this pocket of water would last at least for a few days.
>>882126Anyway. My entire colony ended up wiping. I think this was the 4th-5th cycle. Not sure cuz I'm half dead from staying up so late(it's 4am rn) I was baking on this fucking piece of shit to give me at least a day's worth of water and irrigation for my potato farm. Which my potatoes would have finished in a day and all my beavers died of both hunger and thirst literally right as the drought ended.
>>882126>at least for a few days.Lel.A 40+ long block stretch of river might last one pump a few days, but I wouldn't count on it. Pumps slurp up water REALLY fast.
>>882126If you don't pump the water out, the pond lasts about 5 days; enough to get another harvest from the fields around there.
>>882134>>882126You should try putting a dam across the whole river. You should be able to do that by the second drought no problem.
>>856477You can build grid cities in a non-grid builder, genius
>>882200Does having a dam fuck with water wheels at all?
>>882711Yes.>>882712When you reach the point of having the tech, you can plant dynamite in the river and make it 1 block deeper per dynamite. Do an entire stretch of river and it will effectively hold double the water it was doing when a drought hits.
>>882082Has anyone done this for SC4 or CS?
>>856477Shit, you know nothing. Start by googling the basics.
I got VERY high last night. I turned this city into an underground nightmare of pedestrian tunnel networks. There's barely any traffic in the city anymore. In exchange, you occasionally hear screams coming from The Tunnels. A minor price to pay.
>>883318Many of my citizens have adapted to underground living, becoming semi-nocturnal hunters. Rightwing Death Squads are known to stalk people through the quieter parts of The Tunnels...
>>883323It isn't all doom and gloom. If you survive the Tunnel Rape Troupes and the feral packs of wild Tunnel Hounds, you just might get a moment of respite on the sky bridges. You never skip leg day in this city, because if you do they'll never find your body if you can't outrun somebody in the deep dark tunnels.
>>883330The Upperdwellers here in the wealthy West, where skyrises are all the eye can see- they who live here do not even know of the plight of the Eastern Undercity Drones.
>>883339How could they? They do not, after all, need to stay around after dark, unlike the natives of these savage lands. Here in the east all appears fine. On the surface. But you have no choice. All your friends do it. All your family does it. They all must eventually descend into The Tunnels...
>>883348Because here in Lakefield, you live and die by The Tunnels.
>>879635oh my god i thought this was looping upwards, which would be so dope. Like elysium
>>883351Don't have anything cute to say about this one. It's just a good shot of another tunnel entrance, this time on a tall hill.
>>883361can you stop dude, you're freaking me out
>>883365Oh dearie me, they found another body in the dump. Blood trails lead from the nearby tunnel entrance.
>>883366Jokes aside, this is actually extremely efficient. I've made a city that was mostly pedestrian before, but that was with sky bridges. I never thought to subject my cims to the horrors of a hundred miles of buried tunnels for the sake of efficiency and the funnies.
>>883369>subject my cims to the horrors of a hundred miles of buried tunnels for the sake of efficiencyNow you're thinking like an urban planner!
>>883366>zoning on a roundaboutI was freaked out before, but now I'm disgusted
>>883369>>883372Here is a very common sight. A distant neighborhood connecting a more inner suburb neighborhood and an industrial district. Every white dot is another car that doesn't get in the way of industry. I don't have a single specialized industry in this city at all. There's no tourism either. All that money I'm making is simply from people getting out of the damn way of the industry trucks. Literally just efficiency money. And that's with an extensive metro, bus and trolley system connecting the city with free public transport.
>>883374How do you like this, my king?
>>883380They aren't roundabouts, they're just circles.
>>883383>all those dirt roadsI want you to fucking end yourself
>>883383Swarms let loose after a game. This is a particularly good use for a pedestrian city. Traffic would usually be completely swamping the area for a long time, but there's hardly any traffic after that.
>>883393Local news footage of what would become the superinfection event for Lakefield County's Covid-36 situation.
>>870948>>871055So worth supporting at lest? Doesn't seem to be a lot of user reviews which to me, ususally means a lack of funds and interest from devs, and since it's EA ususally means high risk of getting abandoned.
>>883383>I just drew a cock and balls on the city road plans and the stupid idiots gave it funding
>>883968>complete with genital wartsDamn anon, turns out I was a genius all along
I made another abominationsomebody teach me how to make good interchanges
>>884714This is better, I think
Any tips for managing industrial traffic? I think 90% of my traffic is just truck traffic. I'm trying to stick to road hierarchies and no stoplights for industrial routes, but they are just overwhelming some of my roads.
>>879411Yeah, why doesn’t nature do that?
>>884740>88% flowI don't see the problem
I'm back to show another monster coming from the depths of The Tunnels:Low FPS due to simulating thousands of cims squeezed together into clownish hammer space.
>>884775I upgraded a particularly nasty road which accidentally deleted some walk ways.
>>884780This one little spot eats up over 30 FPS from a city average of 60 FPS because every single cim in the whole area now has to use this one bus stop to go elsewhere. All because a couple sidewalks got destroyed a few miles away. Pedestrian cities are fascinating in how they can fuck up in new and interesting ways.
>>884784Solution: 2 new metro stations, 2 new metro lines, and several new sidewalks in a completely different area.I have an 11600k for a CPU.
>>884740First, 88% is fine. However, there are some serious problems that'll help now if you alleviate them and will kneecap your traffic later if you don't.As for the actual traffic itself:Metro stations should be located on the side of the road where most people are going to/coming from. This minimizes the amount of people that have to cross the street, which will obviously hold up vehicular traffic. The lines themselves also need to have much gentler curves so that the trains can get up to speed and not have to slow down as much.You need more connections with your roads and fewer dead ends. I can see that you're trying to not have too many connections onto your collectors to avoid hampering traffic flow along them. What you need to do is make connections wherever they make sense and have the local roads have stop signs where they meet the collector. This will prioritize the traffic flow along the collectors while still giving good connectivity. Additionally, try to merge intersections where it makes sense and isn't prohibitive. If you can easily connect a road to a preexisting intersection then you should do so (a few examples circled in pink).
>>884789The whole situation was caused like a domino effect. I changed the roundabout to the left into a highway section and changed some roads around it. This deleted sidewalks and a couple skybridges. In the time it took for me to fix that problem, this pedestrian issue was building up over here in this unrelated suburb to the right.The train station area was made with that shitty neighborhood from Tony Hawk Underground in mind. I just might try to make a replica of that whole map somewhere in the city.
>>884797It's like an ant highway.
Just got into Timberborn and unlocked the Large Warehouse. Anyone have any tips on how to utilize this thing efficiently? The weird T shape got my head itching on how to place it and not be a waste of space above it.
With the steam sale I gave in and bought Cartel Tycoon and New City. Haven't played too much of either other than the tutorials but I did enjoy both, gonna focus mainly on New City since this is more for ccity building.Anywho, I don't really like the style of the UI. UI is absolutely awful and a bit confusing and the tutorial doesn't teach you about a lot of features like how to control density or how to toggle on/off grid and setting up transport lines. It's very basic but I guess it's still EA so I'm assuming it will be updated later. Style I don't really like either. I get it's trying to be retro but it still lacks a lot of detail and personality. Even the older SimCity games despite it's age had some nice details, animations and color to them. This game is very drab. But even still I had fun with it and will continue to play a bit more. I like the buildng and it does have quite more depth than I thought it was going to have. I like how you can build off the grid and how they handle the grid as well thought a bit disapointing that you can't really make curved roads. Curved roads are more like EXTREAMLY blockly circles, but I guess it is better than nothing. It's on sale right for $8 so it might be worth suppoting.
>>862673how are you dealing with people not randomly working? It's a glitch in the game whenever a sim is still out in a certain time period and not making home to sleep. My city always devolve into a clusterfuck because of this. Is there any mod to fix it?
>>886194Mods for Societies? I've played it since before I had internet so I forgot to even check. I just survive somehow. Enough sims get back to their cheap houses and go to their high yield jobs. I usually build way more venues than necessary and subsidize it with tourists. The complete collapse happens when EArth Day activates and stays in place for an entire week. everyone walks everywhere without getting there, and they are all enraged by the end.
>>886194This site is only giving me 4 mods.https://www.nexusmods.com/simcitysocieties/?tab=popular+%28all+time%29
How do you guys manage to run simcity 3000 on windows 10?There's massive lag whenever I click a news link or talk to an advisor etc
>>886335Im playing one of the scenarios and people just resort to crime every single fucking tima and its so annoying>>886336Do these even work?
>>886367I don't even know how to install them. lol. Have to test things out tomorrow. What scenario are you playing?
Starting a new Timberborn game. Got depressed and too drunk and didn't want to spend time with my family so went to bed at 8pm. Woke up at 2am and am now trying out the new update. Merry christmas /vst/.
>>888547Merry christmas anon. Hopefully you are feeling better.
>>888547hope your Christmas was nice anon!
>>888998>>890679Thank you frens. Unironically had A Christmas Carol moment and cheered up+had a nice time after having dinner and watching a film. Merry Christmas and god bless you all.
open source SC4 when??
Happy Holidays city buildan frens.>>891459I want an open source SC3K first. ;^)
>>891459I was just about to post a thread asking the same thing>almost 20 years have passed>still no true SC4 replacementAnd no cities skylines doesn't count, it's just not the same
Never played a city builder. Where shpould a newbie jump in?
>>892378Sim City 3k Unlimited is what you really want. It's on the easier end of the difficulty curve but still has plenty of options and soul.
>>892378If you've got money to burn or are willing and able to pirate: Cities Skylines. If you're a quick learner or looking for something a bit more true to life you can start with the realistic population 2, lifecycle rebalance revisited, and rebalanced industries mods. 81 tiles mod is something literally everyone should have. If you want to get a bit more in the weeds you can look at using the mods node controller renewal, traffic manager president edition, and move it.Of course there's the classic of SimCity 4. For that you should get the network addons mod. There's some modpacks that you could get, but I'm not as well versed with the mods of SC4 as I am with CS. You'll probably have to go digging around elsewhere.
>>892378Workers and Resources: Based Republic.
Been playing a lot of Newcity while I work from home. Still pretty bare bones and rough but has some cool stuff. Kind of worth supporting right now if you are interested in it. PROS:>Big focus on large scale building and planing. Not like cities where you have to unlock squares and shit.>Sims have age, education level and schedual off the bat.>lots of options for road type and sizes>off the grid placment of roads.>mod support>Lots of graphics and overlays to view everything.CONS>unoptimized as fuck>Density is really dumb. You have a slider between 0 and 10. No idea what the full difference is between the numbers.>You can not control lot sizes so have fun making your nice, well planed out roads and hoods only to have a giant ass building be on the wrong side of everything and fuck up the look of everything.>Parks and entertainment is really weird and kind of cool but I'm still puttng it here. There are premade parks and shit but there aren't many options. There is also a zone for parks as well. Park zones don't generate anything but give off the same stats of park buildings. Nice to create large open fields for the smaller residential areas or for grand parks but there are no decorations or paths for them so you are just left with an open field.
>>892401It has a great soundtrack too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4brmVihQEk
This thread made me reinstall SimCity 4. Cheers!
>>895587Paris is cute! Cute!
>>895587I like the wheel and spoke in that zoom in of Paris. Dubai is too orderly and doesn't grant interesting views of the city. Everything is walled off in straight lines.
>>854541Grid allows me to make things pixel perfect, I like things lined up and I like symmetry. For this reason games like Cities Skylines are sloppy and literally unplayable.Btw yes I do have autism.
Does simcity 4 work properly on windows 10?
>>895587I'd appreciate grid streets more if I had never attempted to get around in Portland. Europe has based city planners.
>>895793I wish city builder games had more than just square lots for everything.
Hello! Nice to see people play sim city 4
>>897468I've thought about making Atlantis in Sim City 4. I just didn't have the motivation to make a map like that.
here is one of my most recent cities. Always get to around this point then start over with a new city.
>>854541QOTT: Grid for efficiency and aesthetics
I have both SC3000 and SC4 installed, which one should I play for maximum comfiness?
gextown, home of gridlock traffic
traffic management in Cities:Skylines is not as bad as most people make it out to bejust plan out and build your city to be usable rather than pretty or "realistic" (real cities have huge traffic problems so why would you emulate that and hope for better results)
>>899357I've been trying to just remove all non service non-industry cars by banning them and replacing it with public transport and have still run into traffic flow problems. Largely because of busses though, busses clog streets and even with bus lanes in a lot of places just ends up slowing down stuff like service and emergency vehicles unless you have huge multi-lane highway roads through everything.Adding an underground railway does help a fuckton but really trams were the biggest, best replacement. just running them on a grid with some short bus connections in places.
Bros, we ever getting another good city builder or is it all over for us? I've got Cities Skylines and Sim City 4 installed. CS is good but seems too easy and doesn't scratch the same itch SC4 does, but that's really showing its age now.
>>899504>CS is good but seems too easyhave you tried any scenarios? they are a decent challenge, you have not only a set of specific objectives to complete but in most cases also a time limit (and other lose conditions) so you have to be very efficient with your city planning
>>899558To be fair no I've not really tried them, I'll give them a proper go sometime.
>>895587I challenge somebody here to try and recreate one of the more unusual layouts here in Simcity 4, before zoning it all and seeing how it goes.
>>895579Based.>>898894SC4 is comfy with mods. SC3000 is comfy out of the box.>>899807My cities have road layouts similar to Irvine. I've got nothing interesting to report.
>>899905>My cities have road layouts similar to Irvine.I kinda specified "one of the more unusual ones" to exclude Irvine and the less interesting ones.
>>899807Rome and Tunis would be a nightmare.
>>898275Where's Sagrada Famiglia?
I played some Nebuchadnezzar over the holidays and it was pretty fun. The game is still in early access and is too easy. There's too few things that disturb the balance when you are building your town. I still haven't played the final 3 missions but I think I'm gonna wait for some updates to add some things. The next update is gonna add religious festivals and probably some other things.
>>893003That really looks like an American urban sprawl hellscape.
Love sim city recently got covid and started playing my old region to pass the time. Not to old I Started it 2 years ago at the beginning of the pandemic made a custom region 16x16 large tiles only. game has so much soul even my blighted crime ridden ghettos look cool yesterday I got my region up to 21.4 mil.
>>901749Then post screenshots anon, it's an image board after all.
>>901870Very nice. Those are some spiky mountains.
>>901883Are you using mods?
>>901951Nam, god terraforming and a few peg mods
>>902068In SC3K airports don't develop if their zone is surrounded by high rise buildings. Also, that's a lot of bridges.
>>902068That is a very unfortunate location for an airport unless the mayor intends to melt some steel beams
>>902070You can get an airport surrounded by skyscrapers in 3k though you just need to build the airport first. I put my airports downtown majority of the time. It’s just the way I like it
>>901870How do I get snow in Sim City 4?
>>902302It’s a peg mod. Peg Mtp terrain mod 2
>>901870>let's build a bridge STRAIGHT ACROSS this lake>fuck it, let's build two
seeing posts from the other guy, I was inspired to install simcity societies onto my pc. Pretty satisfied by this abandonware albeit the glaring glitches. Personally, I don't really get the hate from this series but to each on its own I guess
>>902463I meant bugs, not glitches rather
>>902470>mfw a pretty sovless layout for a monastic rural themed city
>cant play cities skylines anymore because know I will never surpass my magnum opus 500k city>save lost to drive faliure
always good to open up /vst/ and see our cityfag thread on the first pagekeep it up bros
Any general advice to make my cities not look like complete shit in cities skylines?
>>902591avoid big swaths of gridssmoothen/flatten terrain before buildinglow density on the edges/shores high in the centeruse traffic manager of choice to avoid terminal congestion
>>866668SC4 has economy?
>>902463>I don't really get the hate from this seriesYou have to remember that Societies was the immediate successor to SimCity4. The pivet from large city zoning to singular building placement just wasn't what people wanted
>>902591all the things >>902739 said, also you could unironically look some tutorials in youtube about it.You could also get some inspiration from real world cities.
>>902302set your computer's clock to dec 25th>>902463>i don't get the hatefor me it was the always online "feature"
>>902913You're confusing it with a different simcity.
"Debt is a state of mind." - Confucius
>>903029The single best improvement from 3k to sc4 is default farm zoning.
>>903315It's bizarre that later city builders never managed to get the scale of farms correct. This triggers my autism.
>>903324They all have the barn taking up half the space for some reason. As if that is what I wanted to look at in a farm.
>>903324I think the rice farms of sc3k look fine for an urban area farm, like the ones you have in Japan.
How do you make ocean coast beaches look alive?
>>892378>>892401Sim city 3000 and sim city 4 are both top notch city builders. 3k is a good start because it’s great vanilla and has scenarios while 4 requires Nam to be playable. Not to hard to install but requires a little time and concentration if you aren’t familiar with mods. Both games are great. Cs skylines I hear you can’t make ghettos and the looks of it just aren’t comfy imo. Sim city 4 is the goat but 3k isn’t a bad place to start it has its own feel that makes it unique and worth checking out
>>903594play skylines. you're knocking something you haven't played. not to be rude but you're far less credible for that.
>>903596https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76eLSxj_0h0Sim city is art. It’s not primarily a traffic bus or garbage simulator. Its an Aesthetically beautiful game. It has sovl Skylines looks like globohomo art. The amount of customization you can do in sim city is still unmatched. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5mSd0pbACHk
>>903514Oh shit.At first I was relieved the earthquake happened way out at the edge of the map in the water. Then I remembered what happens next. Biloxi is about to get Fukushima'd. Luckily my nuclear power plant isn't on the sea.I was honestly wondering when the random events would start. This is the first for this map. I thought it was bugged.
>>903617Literally nothing happened.
>>864935>When the CIA flies over your house
>>867799Are you seriously asking if microsoft can be trusted to vend their own software?
>>903625I guess that education didn't do you much could if you are confused about the situation, Todd.
>>902591Download a shit ton of assets. Vanilla buildings look hideous.
>>903633I guess levitating above water would make anyone a bit confused
>>903594Skylines' comfiness is heavily mod-dependent
>>903514get some basic mods to fix the awful default colors etc... You can make this game look good with minimal modding. i think what holds CS back is the aesthetic inconsistency they kinda just left to the modding community to not make their game look ugly as fuck
>>903952This is a custom map with its own theme + classic colors. But you're right, this is something I shoud look into and I will. I just started modding. What are your favorite bright tropical colors?
>>895815Yeah I just installed it the other day. Took a couple settings tweaks to get running and rendering properly, but it works good now. Using the Steam version
If I played Cities Skylines what DLCs are worth it? I'm no stranger to paradox DLCs, but christ there's always a billion of them. Or should I just get good at Simcity 4
Can anyone recommend some good district themes offical or unofficial for CS? Fed up with my commercial properties looking like shit with the same neon signs
>tfw I like SimCity 3000, SimCity 4 and Cities Skylines3000 is simple in a good way and has colorful art. Doesn't need mods, if anything I wish you could combine all the building styles in one for more variety. 4 allows the most realistic cities, and while it needs the most time put into it, it's also the most rewarding game by far. Mods are handy, not required, but handy.Skylines is nice when you just feel like making a big city fast. It's a city painter true, but I don't think that's a bad thing. That said, mods are needed perhaps most of all here. Skylines can look very lovely when done right. All are good in their own way. I play SImCity 4 the most lately but that's because it more or less loads the fastest for me and I'm trying to finish a small region as is. I think choosing between these three is a matter of taste, all have their own specific strengths.
>>904079for Cities DLC just get the expansion ones: After dark, mass transit, snowfall, natural disasters, park life, green cities and industries, campus is so-so but if you want it for completition sake, go ahead.ignore everything called radio station or content creator styles, since mods for those are abundant.>Or should I just get good at Simcity 4that's an option too, but first you have to install some mods.
>>904079Sim city 4 is a true sandbox game skylines has limits. the region mode in sim city 4 sets it apart the size of your city is as big as you want it. Aside from the size difference sim city has a depth that skylines lacks. In skylines poor people don’t exist you can’t have an underfunded polluted run down neighborhood where theres protests over the school budget and riots caused the garbage piling up in the streets. Theres just more you can do in sim city 4 Molding certain parts of your region by messing with the taxes Having your slums your rich areas, shopping districts or downtown offices. And with nam you can build any roadway you want. Sim city feels more alive. You can build cities like this in sim city 4 you can’t in skylines https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hduc0i_pwk
>>903632Genuine question, do you have autism?
>>879473I'm BEGGING you for more vies of Westfield
>>904107You verbosed your way into a paragraph that only says one thing: slums. Then >You can build cities like this in sim city 4 you can’t in skylinesWhich is false. These mechanics you mention are not in Skylines but of all things to compare, you basically chose a nonargument. You'd get A's in highschool English class but you ultimately said nothing. Skylines is a population management sim at heart. It interests those who enjoy optimization. While Skylines is simpler at a glance, it has greater depth in what it does do than compared to SC4. The opposite of your strange, strange statement is more true. I'm sure a determined player could do things in both games that can be done in the other, but the bottom of the line is that SC4 doesn't care about population or traffic or optimization, while CS does. CS is much easier to start but it is also easier to stagnate without decent layouts. In SC4 your layout is all aesthetics while also being restricted by the stifling service radius, which doesn't exist in CS.They do different things. The population of 4chan these days is probably mostly highschoolers anyway, but fags like me still exist to call out bullshitters like you who throw around teenager arguments. You didn't do anything wrong. I simply want to tell you to shut the fuck up and think before you post; "What am I saying?" should be the thought before every post. You aren't articulate enough to put to word the subtle differences between the games without looking like you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just stirring up shit with your ignorance, when these threads are all about celebrating the great games we have access to today. Stop saying one is better than the other, or putting specific games down. Don't reply.
>>904137Based on the subsequent posts after that one, I would say the chance is high.I mean check out this guy:>>904279
>>904279Yo are you mad did I bully your video game? I’m I ignorant and all video games were created equal.What did I say that was wrong? Did skylines implement regions into the game where you can expand exponentially? Is their different classes rich poor mansions and rundown houses? Simtropolis is still active strong modding community. Sim city has sovl. I was just answering the guys question what I thought was a better city builder to start with. Sim city 4 runs on almost anything cheap or a new paradox game that requires tons of dlc. Ones way better bang for your buck
>>904279Why are you acting like an English teacher while simultaneously criticizing English teachers? There's this bizarre schizophrenia that develops through anonymous posting sometimes, and you have it in spades. Either way, Skylines' supposed depth is through micro intensive optimization of the game designer's shitty broken traffic system and mods. It's not a city building game. It's a gardening game for people who need their airports to look exactly like airports do IRL, omgpog onionsface. It's true that SC4 also had broken traffic at launch, but at least SC4's broken traffic didn't ruin the entire game. In Skylines, the traffic is the game. It's all the game is for. It only looks good in comparison to the dogshit that was Simcity 2013. It's basically Cities in Motion 3 pretending otherwise. People who love Skylines shouldn't be city planners, they should be middle managers because middle management and logistics officers is what Skylines trains you to be. Deal with it.
>>904051i use ronyx relight mod and some other ones bit drunk now will reveal later, the game can be overhauled with some simple mods, id recomend 81 tile unlocker, more beautification, theres one that removes ugly props. i plan on making a total overhaul for CS eventually since i have good expereince with 3dsMax from sc4
>>904279>Skylines is a population management sim at heartBuildings only have 5 upgrade levels. Wealth and density go up each stage.DING noise plays to tell player they did a good thing. This is necessary because you can't tell at a glance if the new building is better than the old one.
>>904424Meanwhile, Simcity 4 has 8 upgrade levels.Wealth and density upgrade across 2 dimensions. It's possible to only upgrade land value and not density to get mansions. Or upgrade density and not land value to get high density social housing.It's obvious what type of people live in a certain neighborhood based on architectural style and massing only. No DING noise required.
>>904436https://simcity4buildings.net/index.php?lang=eng&page=wohnen&tileset=NWhat building style do you guys like the best? For me it’s New York I usually mix in one or two of the other styles usually euro or Chicago sometimes Houston.
>>904465Chicago is best. Though I'm partial to New York and Euro. Some of the most distinctive buildings are in Houston though.I generally cycle through all 4 every 100 years (25 each) in a city.
>>904436Man, the eternal struggle of trying to push for stage 8>>904465I usually start with both NY and Chicago to get an old school downtown area. Then mix it up with more modern buildings.
>>904436New York. Being eurofag I always tried euro style but it just doesn't seem right when euro-looking buildings are placed on the typical american grid.
>>904465For me, it's Hyde Condos.
Is there any game like Banished but with upgrades (better buildings or maybe tech)?I liked how comfy it was but it does get pretty boring to just build the same shit over and overBasically I'm envisioning a more free-form Anno
>>904079just cream.api the dlc for cities skylines. nobody pays for steam dlc.
Prefer Cities Skylines because it's in proper 3d not any of this 2D nonsense. Simple as.
>want to do a comfy Cities Skylines snow town>remember modern city builders are 90% traffic management>uninstallI do better in historical games, shame.
>>904436Throw on the Colossus Addon Mod and SC4 goes all the way to stage 15
>>905309In sim city 4 there’s a mod where you can build functional ski resorts I’ve never downloaded it but I’ve thought about it because it looks cool https://community.simtropolis.com/journals/entry/4654-mountainview-ski-resort-10-slides/
>>905074Based.>>905316I wanted to keep the image simple without mods reinforcing my argument. Also I'm lazy and didn't want to open up Lot Editor to take pictures for stages 9-15.
>>905320That does sound really tempting. Been ages since I last started up SC4 but should consider it now. Thanks anon.
>>905448No problem anon here is the mod if you decide to do ithttps://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/22995-peg-ski-resort/I think about starting a new mountainous region sometimes making a ski resort based economy in a small mountain town. Sounds so comfy
just looking at this thread made me download and play sc4 for the last 3 days. now im looking at mods. got NAM and SPAM, but fuck me, do i really have to DL every building seperate?
>>904707A difficult choice for me.
>>903138Omg that art gave me a boner
>>904098i want a game that combines simcity 4’s aesthetics and c:s’s usability & modding ease.
>>904707The MacVicar Building is my favorite. I think it would be a cool house to live in.>>905710Out of those two I like Farley Audio more because The Freytag Building grows like a weed in my cities.
>>904465Love the Maxis Theater. I like Chicago and New york style.
How do you support medium or high density?Higher capacity buildings soak up 110% of the tax they provide
>>905810WTF, I've been playing Simcity 4 since the beginning and I never saw this building ever.
>>905830I rarely see it. Even in a large city I only have 1 spawn.
>>879411it does tho
>grids are great, just look at new york>is completely gridlocked all year round
>>905788The plebs aren't even allowed to be at eye level with the windows when passing by my house.
Europe:>old cities with layouts that are confusing and inefficient, but also beautiful>new cities, carefully engineered for optimal traffic flow and accessibilityUSA:>GRIDS
Rate my industrial hell in progress.
>>907615>Casino right on the edge of this hellholeOf course it is.
>>902563show us more
>SC4 launcher>Network addon modAnything else that is essential for SC4? I want a mostly vanilla experience
>>907615A city with endless opportunities to either work in a factory or in the casino.
>>907358Jesus>>907779I see why you guys have crime
>>907615Add more casinos and you've got Reno, NV
Playing Micropolis/SimCity Classic tonight. This city is incomplete, but posting a progress shot. Population is 51,720, rate and/or criticize as you please.
>>907896Oldshoes, post your modpack. More properly, at this point just look up what kinds of buildings you want in your city. Be wary of making sure you have the right dependencies and prop packs though.
This is my first city building sim and it's pretty neat but I wish I could hand place everything. Zoning is so boring, just unpause and wait. I made a normal city and it was alright but cheating is what is actually fun, because I have freedom (and besides, real life American cities have no budget because they can be bailed out by the Fed printing machine indefinitely).
>>908221And how do I make a proper hellscape? People get sick and die, they don't breed enough, and nobody moves into abandoned homes. I want a human cockroach colony, god damn it. Is there a way to enforce breeding programs for exponential population growth despite shortened lifespans?
>>907896That about covers it desu if you're looking for a vanilla experience.
>>908221I know there's a mod out there that lets you place every building you want by hand, including both vanilla and downloaded assets. It's on the steam workshop somewhere.
Kinda let it run for a while on its own and it became a slum city. Going to reload and do some massive urban renewal.
how do i get into simcity 4 as a retard?
>>908230It looks like you've got a death wave happening. You zone a bunch of new areas, people move in, and they all kind of die around the same time, leading to your death services being overwhelmed by too much demand and not enough throughput. Also if you want to hand place buildings I think the mod is called Ploppable RICO.
>>908221>I wish I could hand place everything.You can, but its tedious as all hellCheck out Ploppable RICO Revisited
Citystate II any good?
>>908383move it was the mod i used to use. but fuck skylines
>>908375stay under budget strictly, don't build a fire department until you have a fire, don't build a police department until crime is a serious problem etc, the default budget settings will work for a good while until you'll know what should be adjusted and you probably shouldn't fuck with them much, and the most important stat in the game is property value4 is complicated but it's not nearly as hard as 1 or 2000 where early mistakes or bad luck can make you lose quickly
>>905698sunday afternoon. downloading everything mattb325 has on sc4dlex. games gonna be sick boys
>>908478Comfy. madhatter106's content on Simtropolis is good too.
>>908481cheers mate, on to him next then. never modded this bad boy until now. going to get another 20 years out of old reliable
>>869856>>868442I still prefer classic
>>908346Slum is sovl, gentrification is gay
>>901393I've been holding off on that one. It just looks to mobile-gamey to me and I also heard it was a bit to casual. Is it just a copy of the old impression games?
>>902563Use mods. Mods like realistic population.
>>908478mattb also has a ton of exclusive stuff on simtropolis too. Everything he makes is great
>>909615I don't think it looks that mobile gamey, at least not as much as the pharaoh remake is now. It was casual at release because there wasn't anything that could go wrong but since the 1.2 update fires, diseases and riots/strikes have been added. The next update is gonna add religious festivals and gods to worship. Perhaps there's also going to be consequences if you neglect some gods. It could also be that relations with other cities change depending on what gods you worship. For now the game is mostly a more modern, user friendly and a bit easier impression game copy. Other cities can't attack you, as there is no combat in the game, I haven't played all the missions but I've also never seen a royal request for some goods. The game is fun though and it isn't easy to evolve lots of houses to the higher levels but there is very little disruptions once you get your town on track.
I know it's not ciy building but I'm gonna butt-in anyways since this is the only thread showing off what everyone is working on. Over the weekend in Parkitect I made this baby for this month's coaster build off. Absolutely my best work yet.
>>910344Looks good. Very aesthetic.>>908886I like Tourism more because of the lack of Ferris wheel spam and the tourism mechanic itself adds something new to the game. Classic's not bad though, I like the art more there.
What's a good base tax rate for Sim City 4? I read online that you should have 12 for low wealth, 11 for mid, 10 for high, but I did that and had fuck all demand and the financial woman kept telling me off. Have the latest Nam pack installed but don't know if that makes a difference.
>>910372Depends on the area and what you want. If you want to plan a downtown commercial office district drop the taxes on office buildings and max out commercial services so only office buildings will grow there. If you want a high tech industrial area jack up the taxes on any other kind of industry. With residential areas I’ll play with taxes usually I’ll drop the rich down so I have nice areas where I have high end commercial services and mansions maybe a few higher density condos. You don’t need to mess with the tax rate that much in the beginning at least I don’t but once I have millions in the bank and I’m strongly in the black budget wise I’ll mess with it to get the results I want
>>910421I just carried on from the tutorial and made a hick town full of shitty industry and with no education. But for the next tile I'll keep that in mind and try to make a high tech one.
>>910430Once your strongly in the black and have money to spare start investing in education, beautification(parks landmarks) and police stations the more educated your sims are the more demand you’ll get for high tech industry and commercial offices.
>>910372Keep tax rates at 9% or lower. You can occasionally go higher if your city is amazing though.
>>907358>more parking lots than buildings>still only one multi-storey parking lotHow does society function?
>>908481>>910100oh dear me, im up to 3 Gb in my plugin folder
>>856895This is how I do it. Grid-based inland, but I do really enjoy actually conforming the road the the curvature of the environment, which gives it a lot of flavor and makes it far more aesthetically pleasing.
>>879452based and geniuspilled
New Cities Skylines DLC looks bretty gud:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YMM_iZxhqATaxiways, runways and concourses are all networks. Looks like a lot of potential to build a large modular airport.
>>911150all stuff that is for free in workers and resources
>>911150unless there's a new air crash disaster, i'm not buying
>>910435>>910474Thanks for the help, hick town is done and it's time to move on. Just wondering though, if I entice one type of business to my city than jack up the taxes too high will they eventually leave on their own, or is the only way to change say med industry to high industry by bulldozing the med then changing the blank sector to high with sufficient demand?
>>911150is that a mother/daughter fatty combo? those woman represent everything wrong about skylines. i really hate that city painter
>>911213If you jack up taxes some buildings maybe all depending how high you go will become abandoned if you change the density bigger buildings will grow without needing to be demolished. When it comes to weather you need to demo abandoned buildings or if a new buildings will grow over it I believe it has to do with the demand if demand is super high the new building will grow without the old needing to be demolished
>>904701With nam and traffic control configuration you can make euro looking cities that even function more like European cities by changing the traffic setting from American to euro is easy. more people will use mass transit. There’s a bunch of things you can change in traffic configuration it effects the volume streets can hold and percentage of people that use mass transit. You can take it further and go custom but I don’t I keep it on American and keep the volume at high some people say go ultra but i prefer high. Middle and lower classes are default more likely to use mass transit usually the rich won’t. If people aren’t using my mass transit systems I make a bunch of tolls on key routes and enact edicts to promote use of mass transit. the lower classes start using mass transit the roads flow better and you make money off the rich on the tolls
>>911150>new dlc>not new gameIt's shit.
>>907790gonna post somehere's close to being "done" from above
>>911150>modular airportsSweet!>still no modular metro hubs>still no modular train hubs>still no modular monorail hubs>still no modular bus hubs>still no modular harbors>still no modular general transit hubsShit!
>>911534wip traffic map
>>911540here you can track in which direction I built shoreline low density residential by how well I utilise space
>>911150anyone knows if you can still unlock all dlc's with single creamapi file?
>>911213I hate how the game rapes with grain silos when the region population gets high enough.
>>911150I can't watch these creatures.
I got couple of months free so I wanna really commit to simcity and build something greatIs there some torrent or mega with everything in one zip file?
Why yes, I do power my cities with cheap and energy efficient coal. How could you tell?
>>912971Just slap them down at a corner and make 3/4ths of the pollution someone else's problem.
>>913132cars are cancer, but cities designed for them are fucking mordor-tieralso shameless self-bump>>912011
Pic related on sale. Worth a purchase?
>>913373The dev studio is long dead and pirating is free. For a serious answer, it's alright. It's one of the many attempts to create an Impressions-style game without the walkers. It does a better job than Caesar IV.
>>913376you just reminded me of caesar 4i am still madpeople talk about spore as the game that killed their hopes about vidya but caesar 4 was the final blow for city builders
>>911150>airports dlc>ground signaling wrong>lightning wrong>constant runway incursionshow long would have taken them to do proper research to have at least the lights correct? 3 second?
>>913132American culture is centered around cars. They live in car-dependent cities. They killed hundreds of thousands of high-speed rail proposals to mass-produce cars. They listen to car podcasts. Their second richest man is the CEO of a car company. They dress and act like drivers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from cars. They post pictures of their cars on social media. They watch NASCAR in worship of cars. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of sports funded by car commercials. They use car rhetoric like "in the fast lane" and "backseat driver". When you say "Tesla" they're not thinking of the father of modern electrical and mechanical devices. They're thinking of the car company. Their cities are completely overrun with cars. They worship their COGbot police force disproportionately filled with drivers and their global police force of soldiers filled with drivers. Their men sit around fantasizing about retiring and driving vintage cars while their women sit around listening to drivers license by Olivia Rodrigo. They worship cars like the F-150 and the Jeep and the Mustang and the old Cadillac while attacking the trains that actually built their country before cars took over. Their movies are filled with cars and their music is full of lyrics about cars. They sit through 20 minutes of car commercials just to watch a 1-hour television program. They consider it a rite of passage to learn to drive and get a license. Their children play Red Light, Green Light and collect toy cars and watch animated movies with anthropomorphized cars. They obsess about cars to a point where "Ford" does not make them think of their 38th president but about a car company. They will tell you how much they hate cars and how no one actually watches Fast & Furious and they are just pretending to love cars but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of car loving drivers.
>>913429I will literally never forgive EA for spore
>>914232You looked at the comments of anything spore related recently? Now it's all zoomers who played it when they were 7 and defend it to the death.
>>914462pls be jokinganother self-bump>>912011
>>914561Found this off /civ4xg/https://pastebin.com/Fg9qNhcM
>>914462They probably don't realize how badly it got fucked over.
>>914591bless you anon, heres some booba (fet)I am thinking of modding essential mods into it and posting it on mega so other anons dont have to waste their time
>>914611Every once in a while I go back to Will Wright's hours-long presentation for the early build of Spore and all his plans for it. And I cry.Then I go and watch the time they let Robin Motherfucking Williams at the Creature Creator, and everything seems okay.Then I remember he died of suicide, and everything is sad again.
>>868442Fuck. I loved this game as a kid.
>>867266Development progress is painfully slow.
>>917141>THIS IS A CONCEPTBut honestly if they remade Simcity 4 in actual 3D and a proper mod manager, I'd buy it.
>>917163I'd happy with diagonal buildings
>>917163id pay a shitload to be able to use more of my CPU
>>911540that huge metropolis. only 300k pop... skylines...
i like dirty towns and dirty girls
>>915504My emotions doing those same activities would be sad, mad, joy.
>>917141That R*dditor told you not to use that as clickbait. How could you do such a thing? What is wrong with you?
>>917295a once sleepy rural community is changed forever with the end of apartheid. most residents that could afford to leave, fled the incoming hordes of poor, thoughts and prayers for the ones that stayed
>>917141>29th of FebruaryYou little bastard
>>895587>Irvine>it's like 3 blockslol, why would you include irvine with a selection of world capitals and american megacities?Portland looks the best out of all of those. Tunis and Rome look like you're not going faster than walking speed no matter what. Paris looks like the web of a spider that was fed cannabis.
>>917295>>917612Looks like the bunkhouses from Tropico, neat.
>>854541Should I buy SimCity 4 or 3000? Both are on sale on GOG right now
>>918136I recommend 4, but both are good.
>>895587If I were a freedom fighter I would want to fight in Tunis or Rome. The tangle of smaller streets in the old city would be the perfect place to dry gulch anyone unfamiliar with the layout of the city whereas the broad straight avenues and boulevards of Paris and NYC lend themselves more easily to counter-insurgency since it would be easier to move vehicles and larger numbers around.
>>918136Both are good like the other anon said. SimCity4 needs some mods like NAM but SC3K doesn't need anything than maybe only a widescreen fix. SC3K Unlimited comes with European and Asian building sets also it has an amazing soundtrack. See >>894391 or this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkMZtXFdlso
>>918196I suspect you already know but those boulevards of Paris you mention were made partially to make it easier to surpress revolutionary riots. Hausmann's plans for Paris were used as a basis for other city planning projects in other major European cities at the time.
>>907358jesus christ imagine a city planer game when 70% of what you make is parking lots lolthank God i'm not a murrican
>>918465napoleon III made the wide beautiful boulevars so that the prussian could make a very nice parade after curbstomping them
>>918466I don't know if you read, but they researched real world land use for Simcity 5.They discovered that a depressingly huge portion of city land was dedicated to parking lots, so for the game, they decided to have much less parking space than in real life. I think them doing that whitewashed the harm of car culture.
>>910537When everyone has a car and you have infinite land, you can do this.
>>901393The problem with Nebuchadnezzar is the problem with all post-Impressions Impressions-like games: trying to do walkers without walkers.
>>918728simcity 5??? i dont what they researched for that mess of a game, such tiny little towns.fuck knows what they were thinking when they designed that mess. some shithead saying you know what city builder gamers want? to be always online and tiny unconnected towns