Can he save the protoss race?
The biggest problem is that the majority of protoss units don't scale well with proper micro. Protoss ends up amoving because outside of repositioning there isn't really much for them to do.>Zealots auto charge (theoretically they could be much more powerful if it was feasible to individually charge them into specific targets but I doubt anyone could do that reliably)>stalkers/DTs blink once every 10(?) seconds>Adept shading is a neat idea but mechanically pretty simple. Move shades, decide if you want to cancel or not.>stalkers, adepts, immortals, colossi, tempests fire slowly so don't benefit from stutter stepping very much.>sentries are okay but forcefield is easily countered and hallucinate isn't that useful>High Templar are just stormbots and occasionally feedback>Archons are a-movers that can get some value from warp prisms.>Phoenixes are a good design on paper but in game they aren't that useful.>Oracles are pretty good>Void Rays and carriers are just lol>Disruptors are an interesting idea. They require specific targetting and babysitting and reward you very heavily for proper use but since the rest of the army is so basic you're almost always guaranteed to get a decent hit off.>Mothership exists to recall once before getting murdered
Build more robos.Build more sentries.Instead of two colossi that get immediately pulled by a viper or oneshotted by a group of valks, have four real colossi and four more fake colossi. Also build more shield batteries. I bet you could save a colossi from oneshot valk hell by spamming regen shield on it. Valk attacks aren't instant, there's probably enough time between the instances that you can save a colossi.
No, just wait for Stats to return.
>>793024damn, he used to be so handsome...
Perfectly balanced...David Kim did it again...
>>793083Where is my heckin' TvT?
>>793105Most of the protosses that didn't make it were literal whos.
>>793105So sc2 is like opposite of bw and it's the strongest race or what? Because in BW they struggle against both terran and zerg
>>793083lambo serral might be ambiguousmarinelord can also pull an upset if he plays well
>>793105Protoss are the NPC race.
>another day of c*tz and w*rdiiGuess I'm muting the stream...
even as a zerg I have to admit clem's snipe spam is sexy looking af. Such a fun player to watch
>>793484Yeah man smart casting is hecking epic
so serral is going to lose to clem this time?
he lost the grand finals last time as well against clemhe will lose again and fight reynor in the lower bracket semis most likely
And lose to Reynor
Some terrans can just dodge every baneling perfectly but will stand in storm without even trying to walk out.
Uh because protoss OP obviouslyIt's their fault Gabe stood in the storm after stimming up a ramp
here comes moronlond
Goddamnit, I missed Homomarine getting annihilated.
new sc2 map pool
>>793743>BerlingradWho the fuck named this shit lamo
LET'S GO BABY!!
>>793743>beckett and blackburn inif any of the new maps are terran favoured this is going to be a disaster for zvt
reynorbros???how the fuck he lost to marinelord?
marinelord has easier tools
he was sloppy and doing meme shit builds like ultra viper for no good reasonthis also means that reynor will fight serral in the losers bracket and the loser will be out of the season finals again
>>793772Terran is OP
is Reynor still pulling his vacation excuse bullshit?
he never mentions it afaik but it's pretty obvious, you can't expect to stay at the top level when you remember to install starcraft once every 2 months
JD is back lads
wtf how did reynore and marinehero lose???
>>793786his wrists are gone and they are never coming back
harstem is gonna lose to maxpax bros...
>>793870I can't believe she died from the rona..
>>793003No, because SCII ruined Protoss forever.
real talk why is protoss such a poorly designed race
>>793889i still remember her last words..."i love anon...but i should have taken the vaccine.."
>>793889it was actually from a severe BWC deficiency
how to quit starcraft ? I don't think there's any benefit on playing this stressful game
>>794071Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
oh shit, 100% real girl fight is tomorrow too
>>794080Which girl and/or female you got?
>>794082easy scarscar victorynoregret is gonna inject some larva in her hatchery if she wins
>>794080I think puck is going to win this time
protoss can regen their shield points shit. What kind OP shit is this ? So If I damage most of their units by shield only and don't kill them they'll bite me in the ass later ?
>>794106>Zerg units have passive regeneration of entire health bar
>>794112except their units are soft as shit and protoss units are tank son of a bitches
Had a dream I lost to a 1 base DT all in
>>794115>roach>145 HP all regenerable 1 armor 75 minerals 25 gas>stalker>160 HP only half regenerable 1 armor 125 minerals 50 gas
>>794119still soft units and they're easy to counter unlike protoss op units shits
>>794106cause protoss op and gay. Simple as
seems like all the new maps are made by people who just started making maps
>>794150There's no one else left 2bf
I love both games and I don't want either to die.
>>793870when's this from? makes it look like she got a botched jaw shave but she didn't look like that on the last gsl i saw her on (trap vs.cure?)
>>794220was watching old gsls on that scvodarchive channelthink it was during HOTS
>>794079GungfuHarstem (I wish)ThermalSoul
>>794194Literally me plus WC3
didnt watch eu yesterday what happened? 2 of homomarine/reynor/serral won't be making it to the season finals lol tf
>>794265the marinelord/reynor games i think have some juicy details to plumb as a terran.lots of good harass and a very unique flavor of attrition play outproducing zerg
i always forget which of heromarine and gabe are whichwho was the good one
Rotti is here to save us from catz and zg
harstembros... we fought valiantly
wtf is rettardam talking about, Vanyas in a decent spot.
how is uBaldmel only 25?
Terran players are oppressed and the stress causes early baldness
i knew a guy who started balting at 18
I didn't know someone who knew me posted here
>28 and still full thick manly hair
i was getting bullied about my hairline in freshman year...
>>794602Same. Just look at all the hairlets in this thread.
Tranny fight!>Tranny fight!Tranny fight!>Tranny fight!
>>794638This is getting out of hand! Now, there are two of them!
>>794639three if you count percy
>>794640he's just an old school trap
has a tempest strat ever worked
>>794638damn nina looks like THAT???!?!
>>794646ye i've seen it work a copule of times, at least once on beckett. I think it was Mana but don't remember the jerg.
blink into macro is actually big brain because scarlett's totally gonna expect adepts
skill battery triumphs again
>skytoss should be deleted bro you can beat lurkers with ground units if you micro them right
Protoss is OP.... because it just is! OKAY?!?!
Scarlett is CHOCKING on Nina's female penis.
F for everyone in the chat who got and will get banned in this dangerous series. Please stay safe, scbros
I got banned in a commenting during a TvT in 2019
I ate a ban once for asking if Scarlett already turned her spine into a spore, took the jannie a bit to notice though.
ESL more like Ad break SL
4 games of building void raysfascinating stuff
At what point does 3 rax reaper stop working? I do it every match
Dude queens lmao
>missed the tranny fightFUCK
So Scarscar is gonna get PROTOSSED by Astrea and then by I can't Sneeb in the lower bracket, right?
Anyone have download links for the tastosis patreon podcast?
The only way to win against protoss is mine drop their minerals then transition to skyterran then destroy their infrastructures
>>794741I will probably paypig for a month and upload them in a day or two
>>793003i thought was a female
>>793017>majority of protoss units don't scale well with proper microThey don't have to. The correct way to play protoss is to always force two simultaenous engagements. AI vs AI zealots win against anything, and protoss doesn't need max army because it has the best AOE options.
>>795007protoss dont know what control groups are
when was the last time anyone did a baneling bust in a pro game
Who takes?I goLamboElazerReynor (though I want Thermy to win)HeroMarine
>>795059agree with all except maxpax might take it over elazer
>watching non koreans play starcraft in a kiddie league where good players aren't allowedbut why
>>795065like you have anything better to do
>>795059lambo maxpax reynor homomarine
>>795061>>795059Lambo, Max because Elazer will tilt, Reynor no question, Gabe unless he loses the first map and tilts.
The more you listen to casters, the more you listen how technically terrible they are. And don't give me the "it's their second or third language", it's their fucking job to speak it properly.
>>795146The quality of casting took a huge hit after elf boy Apollo and Gay9 disappeared.
Huskybros... He'll be back soon, right?
>>795178Hopefully not, sellouts are worst.
>>795156It's amazing watching those random tsl casts that day9 does and seeing how much better he is than the regular esl crew even though he hasn't touched the game in years
>NatetardWhy do these fucks at ESL do this?
He's better than feardragon and zg
How long until Lambo retires and becomes a c stream caster full time
Why don't zerg players make units that shoot up against skytoss?
>>795245he said it's not up to him, he wants to cast but rarely gets offers
of course, why would you invite lambo for a cast when you could have wardii, feardragon or zombigrub
if they let pros cast often most casters would be out of a job
Tasteless is a good example of a caster who doesn't know shit (at least about sc2), but is very pleasant to listen to, especially with Artosis. But what if you took that charisma away? He'd just be a shitty caster with shitty knowledge.No wonder, then, that other casters would lose to pros. Because most of them have neither.
I fail to see the downside to that
You need one analytical caster and one hype man casterThat's why artosis and Tasteless are a good combo. Artosis is an autistic person that speaks very technically and Tasteless plays protoss
There are no downsides to that, we'd be getting better casters and getting rid of the shitty ones nobody wants to hear. But that's not gonna happen.
good tier: rottiok tier: zg, catsbad tier: feardragonautist tier: this fucking guy, wardi
What about Tod
>>795362bad tier: feardragon; demuslim*
>>795362>ok tier: zgWrong, so wrong
>>795365I have no feelings about Tod either way>>795367she's ok
If Acne and Poodragon cast the finals again I'm going to send angry mails at the ESL office (in Starcraft)
t.alt right incel
it might be that he's so forgettablebut I corrected myself afterwards
>>795362I agree Rotti is the best out of these, he has more knowledge and is more pleasant, but I can't stand some of his mannerisms. For example how he keeps saying "I don't hate", how he calls players by names as if he was showing off he knows them, how he does the "r" in some words, how he says cheeky etc.
>>795371the only incel is ZG who still lives with her mother and has no backup-plan for when her meme videogame job fails
>>795378I despise how he calls everyone a phenom
>>795382oh no no no no grubros did we get too cocky...?
>>795382Her backup plan is an only fans selling the pus she squeezes out of her acne
ah yes..the classic 2 hour long PvZ series between two irreverent yuropoors
If only every game could be rogue making roaches...
>>795378those things can be weird, but he seems like a genuine enough person that they don't bother me too much and I'm not inclined to think he'd show off like that. I don't hate him :)>>795386
maru beat rogue in that thing yesterday in fact i doubt rogue ever made roaches
>>795399The only reason I could dislike Rotti for is how he doesn't allow for any fair criticism towards some players. Like I saw guy who got banned for saying something like "Goblin played badly that last game".Other than that, I agree he seems genuine and it's hard to hate him, even if he annoys me sometimes.
Only really weird people want to be full-time casters, the pay sucks, the future is uncertain, and you have to shill for products or donations all the time like a bitch.
esl or blizzard should have made rotti and todd the na and eu tastosis when they pouring all that money into the scene
>>795406>Like I saw guy who got banned for saying something like "Goblin played badly that last game".Probably because Gobo plays for Team Rotti.
I wish incontrol was here to cast
We all do
as i mention
he's watching us play from that circle of hell where the fat fucks roll around in the mud
i think any jobber gook could beat rey or right now
I was hoping uThermal had it, but he just had to lose :( When he had the upgrade advantage, I thought he was taking it home
>>795414I miss the big guy
>>795427thanks for the karma :)
>>795427Thermy has to tap into that grug power if he wants to win
thermy is gonna throw hes a retarded rager
For a moment there, I could see light. uThermal played like a madman. I will not forget.
>uNeanderthal ever winning against Reynor
I hope skillous wins for the glory of the motherland
>>795467Protoss is OP, okay?
>>795469if the game was balanced that would say 0 protoss
>>795490copethere are no good protoss players
Why are Terrans supposed to be whiners when Pr*toss always cry the loudest?
>>795498protoss are kikes who constantly try to rewrite the narrative
i like gabe but its very funny to me when he loses
>>795498Terrans always cry imbalance when they lose but the game is apparently perfectly balanced when they're winning.
>>795504>Protoss always cry imbalance when they lose but the game is apparently perfectly balanced when they're winning.
>>795505>Zerg always cry imbalance when they lose but the game is apparently prefectly balanced when they're winning
>Noooooooo why can't my marines beat carriers
>>795503You just know that he's seething internally when he loses.
>>795508>>795504>>795494>>795490>>795469post your nose rabbi
What are you talking about? Almost every game with protoss goes like this>whole game of whining about protoss op>protoss loses
gabes nickname in high school was "cherry boy"
Because he got it popped early?
i like how the protoss guy gabe goes 20 and o against every day on ladder is this goofy looking russian
>>795512losing doesnt make them not op
>>795007>They don't have toThat's the problem. Units not scaling well with micro means that protoss just has to a move but also means that the ceiling for protoss skill is much lower because they don't have to and realistically can't even improve their units with proper control
>>795522yet even with that low ceiling not a single pro protoss player can go a series without making retarded gamelosing mistakes
>>795522In one of the very early Battle Reports from Blizzard I remember Dustin Browder saying that they gave Protoss blink and the sentry abilities so they can have more possibilities to micro. They knew that this was a problem and tried doing something about it but fucked it up like retards.
>>795523We get it anon, you don't like Protoss players.>>795524I think they were held back by trying to keep Protoss units similar to Brood War. I wish they just did a total redesign on the race instead of trying to bandaid it.
two little girls balance whining in 2021...
Nooooooo, if I whine enough on a website made for Mongolian finger puppet theatres then Blizzard will finally release a balance patch after more than 1 year.
>tosskike kvetching intensifies
I maek carrier
dude medivac drops lmao
Can't wait for Frostgiants to save us
crazy sick puppies in europe
Frostgiant's RTS will be casualized garbage too
Frostgiant's RTS will never release
>>795536>>795538Is there any actual information about that game though? It's all the same blurp used by Grey Goo, DoW 3, Iron Harvest, etc>easy for beginners, le hard to master>classical concepts with a modern take (upcummies to the left)>good controls and big-brained strategies for big-brained strategists who like good controls
>>795543yeah it's right there on their website
>establish a strong main before taking the naturallmao silver league devs
last game i got my hopes up for was fallout 4 and i learned my lesson
nigger vs need
I hope Scarlett and Massa lose so it turns into the protocalypse.
Frostgiant should go for a cheese full greed mode.What do you think about Dreamhaven?
I hope Sneeb and Astrea make it through so that they can get eliminated in the group stage of the playoff and only Korean and Europeans make it through
Are we rooting for Yoon "Pull the TriGGeR when you see a nigger" Hong or Alex "Sneeb" Sunderhaft? I don't usually watch NA sc2 so if some expert could chip in I'd appreciate it
>>795560We only root for Nina and Scarlett to support women's representation in SC2.
>>795560i think you already know the answer
Just did a massive protoss in the toilet
Twitch jannies work in mysterious ways
Imagine the type of guy that sweeps it up (for free) in the twitch chat out of all places.
they do it out of love for the game and get paid pennies for it
>>795573>out of love for the gameloltwitch jannies are all powertripping troons who just want to subvert any kind of popular culture
>>795574>Message removed by moderator
>>795574I agre->popular culturein what universe is sc2 popular or culture
>>795577sc2 is star wars
>>795579>sc2 is star wars
we are watching zg now
>>795582What the fuck is that video game?>Age of DarknessI thought it was a dota2 mod at first
>>795583kek I thoguht it was straight up dota at first because I wasn't really looking then I did and was confused
For the other 2 brood war boomers still here.ASL SoulKey vs Queenyoutube.com/watch?v=T6uwY5D6djk
>>795543>>easy for beginners, le hard to masterName one (1) good competitive game where this applies.Literally all of them are terrible for beginners, that's just part of what makes them good--the high level of complexity and massive skill differentiation inherently mean a beginner will struggle. Without them, the skill ceiling is too low to be a good competitive game.Quake, CS, all MOBAs, BW/SC2, and fighting games are all nearly impenetrable to a beginner, to the point where it's reasonable for an average skilled player to 1v3-5 noobs, and top level pros to 1v3-5 average players. This makes it insanely frustrating for new players, because they're either useless or in some games straight up a detriment to their team. But it's also what allows the high levels to continue to delineate themselves so clearly and continuously play interesting games. The only way to make a 'hard to master' game that's still easy for beginners is to make the mastery something that's not interesting or fun, like memorization. You see this in games like chess--learning the rules and being able to start playing is easy, and there is a clear skill scale to grandmaster. However, grandmaster games are insanely boring, and the decision making and interest level is abysmal--the former is why computers have mogged humans for years in chess. A complex game AI can only compete with inhuman inputs (aimbots, the three screens at once blink stalker micro, etc.), but simple games AI wins because the decision making is so limited and clearcut.
I agree with what you're saying, but I think they're going for an RTS with the skill floor of game like LoL with skill ceiling like Starcraft. But maybe I'm overestimating them and they're just braindead.
>CS>terrible for beginnersif youre referring to a child who has never played an fps before, then you may be right. however, being an American means every child has played cod/bf/halo/and many other fps games, so they at least have some experience aiming and moving and makes it impossible for them to be a complete beginner. they may not understand holding positions and crosshair placement, but they figure it out relatively quickly as they die instantly from being a CT and rushing around the map (unless theyre good at aiming and thus not a beginner). also, since you're forced to watch your teammates for around 2minutes after instantly dying, you'll understand what a good spot to hold/use as cover is unless they are a literal retard and the game isnt for them anyway. it still makes it hard to master as you can learn timings, how to draw people from other sites, nade lineups, communication with your team, etc, but it's simple for a beginner to enjoy since it's easy to just aim and click and sometimes throw frag/incendiary grenades.contrast this with RTS games where most Americans have little to no experience with the genre. they have to learn the autism of macroing, so that they can have fun microing their units. they also need to learn much more about timings, so that they don't instantly die to a rush. the ideas about how to specifically defend a (poorly executed) rush may not be apparent and that's where frustration would come in as they try to create different combinations of early units to defend it. they won't have fun beating their heads against a wall, and most people dont find it fun to have to look up how to defend it or how to counterattack or attack in general. the one exception, i've found, is aoe2 where you can easily wall up in black forest mine resources, make your favorite unit, and just go through a chokepoint for hours until someone loses. it also has fun teamgames compared to other RTSs
>>795595>the three screens at once blink stalker microIt's such a shame that they put "human" limitations on AlphaStar. I understand the limitations are so it can "learn" better, but I wanted to see 1000 apm bullshit. I wanted to see multiple drops with perfect micro, splitting, and spellcasting, all while keeping up macro and expanding behind it.
>>795646Not him but the point of putting human limitations on alphastar was to force it to come up with emergent strategies to beat GM players. Obviously the AI can beat humans if it's allowed to multitask beyond human capabilities, but it's the strategy part that's difficult to figure out.
>>795646Did you watch any of the SC2 AI tournaments? Units are always spazzing out to make small corrections to their positions, especially fast flying ones are constantly on the move spinning around their axis, it's vomit-inducing.
>>795669BW AI tournaments are more interesting
>>795688What a nice family.
>>795688he does a pretty good job hiding all the bruises
>>795688I'd wear that deer sweater irl
>>795688i hope the joy he gets from his kids soothes the pain he gets from the game, although that's a tall order indeed
>>795702it seems to, it's amazing how happy he is at the start of every stream and how quickly his mood degrades
>>795720all it takes is one TvP
the asl english patreon is steadily declining sir
sir please do the needful and enter your credit card into the patreon
12k to split between them and they dont even bother doing it offline anymore
12k split between four
They probably split it 40/40/10/10 anyways
I assume the split is like ~25% editor, ~10% translator, ~32.5% casters. But IDK if Afreeca takes a cut too or they have to pay a flat fee for the license. There is also the prize pool cost for their King of the Hill, but I think Caster Muse probably wasn't paid because it's just free content and he'd wanna do it on his own. The prize pools only totaled to to like $1500 though, but with one every week when they're not doing ASL it's a significant cost during that time.Desu it's probably pretty close to what they normally make for casting similar events, and if they get ASTL the per show pay would be worse but they'd probably do it anyways.Also why does Tasteless come off as poor? Like he should be rolling in it since he has no clear large bills (as opposed to Artosis' kids), but the dude shills like crazy. He's not trying to make a nest egg for kids or anything so does he just spend a fuckton on coke with his gf or is his apartment actually fucking huge or something? Like what does he do with the money
>>795791cigs, alcohol, and korean prostitutes are expensive
I thought they'd be longer desu
Who's the best of each race to watch for SC2?
>>795688>You get to play your silly games but you're loading me like a drop ship
Royal vs Mini (ASL)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYRHZVAjhX8
>>795382I think she will just marry one of the chads from tinder she fucks from time to time. I'm inclined to believe that women can't fail in life.
Imagine fucking zgImagine the smell
I’d do it just to say I did
>>795870Imagine how her face looks if it isn't caked in make-up.
>banging ZG>she just lies there refusing to make eye contact and saying awkward one liners about starcraft>afterwards she says cool bro that was pretty poggers and pats you on the back>static electricity ignites the oil now covering you both>burn to death
>>795882>all the cat hair and mold spores flying around the room create a dust explosion
>>795467Choosing P carries on ladder but flowcharts get steamrolled by tourney players who are carrying their race instead.
I'd baneling bust Zombie's main if you know what I mean
set kino receptors to maximum
why did gsl have that whole period where random retards like moletrap and doa were casting instead of tastosis? unironically think that did more to kill popularity of the game than any of blizz's retarded balance decisions
>Watching War3 all morning>will be Watching SC2 all afternoon >Sent out the usual 5 emails so it appears I'm working I thank Wuhan labs everyday for helping me to wfh
>>795989basedi watch old sc2 vods all day while "working"
>>795805the tasteless podcast after show
>>795982Kelly and doa was the absolute bottom of casting
>Although at first she received harsh criticism for her supposedly poor English and an allegedly low level of game knowledge, her later casts were more welcomed.
remember the time she sucked a dick
>>796061ZG's future isn't looking so bright...
>>7960619/10 women have sucked a dick at least once
gyuri is pure
>Tasteless keeps looking fatter and balder in each new cast :(
>>795982Tastosis were casting a lot of events outside Korea
>>796118The bloat is in his genes. Day9 bloated too and looks like a complete poof because of it.
>nathanius and catzThey're really trying their best to ruin a good day of matches
>>796207I'm just thankful its not fearpajeet/zg
>no wardiThis is what I call a succes.
damn reynor's playing so bad
HM's marines doing a field raid on roided tranfuse ultralisk boss
>>796228lucky for him that he's playing a shitter so him playing bad is still good enough
HM please. I don't like you, but I really want you to win again. At least not like this.
>Gabe dominated by an Italian twink
Where do you think Wardi keeps his funko?
>>796304Serral 3 - 2
>>796304ugh but the last match of the blyatbowl is happening right now...
You're pretty cool, don't come to school tomorrow
>>796356how would his life be without videogames?
>>796378He's probably be a run-of-the-mill autistic software engineer.
he's just like me...
I watch TI every year out of tradition at this point, but holy shit the game is almost unwatchable now
wish they they would use some of the skins for a change
looks like reynor was right, clem was very sloppy this series
Clem vs Reynor in the lower bracket now
clem will beat reynor and then serral again in the grand finalsserral got lucky with his roach all ins and runbys but he can't pull it off again
THE TOOLS, MAN
>Marinelord>Heromarine What's the difference?
>>796442one is a french sperg, the other is a german sperg, both blame imbalance anytime they lose to a protoss so I know its easy to get mixed up :)
>>796442dunno should ask MarineKing
>>796442heromarine is consistent but hits a hard ceiling against the top playersmarinelord rarely plays or practices but his occasional peak is good enough to beat some of the top players
Catz, please don't panic
I hate catz
why is marinelord wearing headphones on top of his hood???
Emp is actually disgusting
Why does he keep saying however?
Why are both casters dressed like homosexuals from the 90s?
Because they're both homosexuals that grew up in the 90s
>>796486I don't think half the esl casters even own a suit so they just let them wear whatever
>*loads Trance playlist*>*queues ladder*
kek this one slipped by the moderators
>>796675you will never be a real woman like scarlett
lmao what is this
i remember thinking scarr was just a really ugly girl when she first played in that ipl tournament
>>796712the power of NA...
>trying to bluff a trannyyes because we all know they are good at processing and evaluating risks
I don't remember stats or classic playing pvp like this
does saying tvt get you an auto ban?
when will neeb transition?
>>796746neeb is a successful software engineer, he just does sc2 on the side
>>796758Oh hey, me too. Only difference is I hate video games.
Just won 3 games in a row TvT, TvT TvPCheesed all 3 games
>>796796gol build or bunker rush?
>>796800build barracks in the middle of the mapmake reaperscheese your way to GM
>>796801>SC2lmaoing at ur life
>>796803do you stream snipe artosis?
>>796805not high enough mmr but i would if i could
>>796803BW simply isn't fun to play
>>796807Keep at it anon, you'll get there eventually. Just please post in the thread if you ever do match against him.
>>796808You can have "fun" with any game
>>793024Serral will take care of him again
>>796808I disagree, but I can see why people hold that opinion.
lee > gyuri
Why are 4 player maps so prevalent in BW but almost non existent in SC2?
>>796887stats 3-0'ed serral last time they played in the hsc finals
I miss him...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOdej5UkIhg
>>796973https://terrancraft.com/2020/02/01/commentary-by-negativezero-on-faster-is-not-better/read the Impact on Map Design parttldr is sc2 had them before the last expansion where they ruined the economy
>>796973SC2 players are somehow more autistic. As the GSL one showed it's completely viable to have more than a 1v1 map in SC2, they just won't play them anymore for some reason. There are all kinds of excuses but what it boils down to is BW players have a higher tolerance for variance. One of the biggest copes for 1v1 only maps in SC2 is build order wins. In BW massive build order advantages and wins are accepted as part of the game.
>>797003I would laugh so hard if he became a better player than Artosis
>>797003.... Is this real? Did he finally jump back into SC?
>>797003Holy fuck, it is real....
>>796476Marinelord inherited Dayshi's rage.
why are terrans like this?
>>797154you probably deserved it
>>797003Don't know who this is
>Lost to a cannon rushJUST
>>795646Same thoughts here, I don't understand what the whole point of an AI is if you won't let it capitalize on its main advantage, that being infinite multitasking.>>795662Emergent strategies lmao, didn't Alphastar just go mass stalker against everyone with perfect blink micro?
>>797359what race are you?
>>797415which race doesn't counter it by killing the probe and sending any amount of units to the other side of the map?
>>797416Do you play this game?
>>797416i do, terran counter is killing the probe and sending a reaper to the other side of the map to kill probes.you'd have to be retarded to lose to a cannon rush as terran so i'm curious how the other races are more complex than this?
>>797419meant for >>797418
you have to be retarded to lose to a cannon rush as terran since your buildings can flyas toss just build your own forge when you see their first pylons going up and proxy sg on their side since your tech will be way faster than theirszerg can get fucked for ruining the game for the better part of past decade so any time they lose is a cause for celebration
Marinelord's gonna die because lol TvP but he fought a good fight getting this far.
>>796973sc2 pros are little babbies
>ZG and CatzThey're doing everything possible to make DH shit
no fear pajeet? gonna have to skip this one
I wish Shaun would cast for the finals, he's not THAT busy.
feardragon is shit but at least he knows how to dress himself unlike 95% of SC2 casters
>>797497because hes a faggot
>>797498I'd rather a faggot that can dress himself than a faggot that can barely speak english while wearing a faux fur coat
>>797499catz is better than the gay pajeet though
>>797500He's really not.
>>79750110 poos have been deposited in your loo
Look at those easy tools MarineLord has
>>797499harsh but fair
I want to breed ZG
>>797495Apollo, former SC2 caster who works for ESL and is in charge of their SC2 pro stuff or something.
>>797522apollo's name is shaun? wtf
>>797542think clem takes it.they both have been playing pretty poorly but i think clem has had a better hand on it
>>797542raynoir 3 1 clems not in shape
>>797542The zerg because zerg is OP
Wouldn't it be funny if Reynor won vs Clem and then lost to Marinelord again?
>booba is instant ban in chatkek
>>796492>suitCan Wardi even afford one?
he spends all his money on funko pops and tournament prize pools
why isn't clem making any marauders aren't they better against roaches than mureens?
>>797547i take that back reynor a shit
Get shit on Zergscum
w a s h e d u p
So was Reynor another patchzerg?
>>797622all foreign zergs are
cant believe mullets are STILL this delusional
was there a reason serral didn't just push 2 win @ 10min but instead left and let game go on 20 mins more?
maybe he thought he doesn't have enough ground meat to stay there and protect all those corrutpors morphed into broods offensively
I believe tossbros
Hate TvZ, unless I'm a micro god the z*rg just has to amove into me
just tuned in, catz and zg? truly we are blessed, thank you esl
>>797658just burrow mines tvz is 100 times more micro intensive for the zerg
fuck you moronlordhe's going to get fucked by serral anyway
>>797724he's going to get TOOL'd next round if he wins he won't even play Serral
I have this chair
>>797737Is it comfy?
>>797737is that some ordinary garden chair?
Let's go sneebbros. Trannies stay seething.
Sneeb's feeb and seeb beating puck's fuck and suck.
I like catz
Okay, time for the real questions - ZombieGrub or Scarlett?
Chadstrea styling on the tranny,
i hope scarlett wins so he can be destroyed by our guy sneeb
>>797908>>797902kys newshit scarscar is our girl and always has been
>gold base nexus first into dt
>>797940Difference is that the tranny of blades now plays like shit.
>>797884Are wardi's boobs bigger than zombie's?
Perci is /our girl/ now.
newfriend here, why do i only see protoss do that mineral stealing with a probe early game?
>>797964protoss players are the only ones skilled enough to pull it off
>>797964zerg gets free scouting with overlord and terran uses reaper to scout, you can skip a probe scout and scout with adept but you'll die to any early all in
>>797968sure but i specifically meant the fucking with mineral patches partterran doesn't do this when he sends an scv
>>797964there's much less to do with your scouting drone or scv than you can do with a probe so you usually you just send it back to base after getting the key info
Are we gonna get Neeb vs Scarlett finals where Neeb wins, anyway?
we can only hopeAt least if Scarlet gets into the season finals there's a chance she'll do something unlike astrea
Eat shit cis scum.
>>797972when terran sends an early scv its usually to do an ebay block, which does a lot more econ damage than mineral harass although I do remember seeing some games where T still does it
Trannoids will never be top players.
>>797984Clearly a man.
>Raszagal holds the title matriarch in BW>hurr, I wonder if Protoss divide themselves in male/female??Riveting commentary.
>>797991>ZombieGrub writing protoss erotic fanfiction during a castshameful
>DeMuslim says "pounce" once>Now every other caster says it>Catz keeps saying however randomly>Now other casters say it, too
how many cocks will puck suck when they start to travelling again?
>trans women are real wo-
>>798014which one is the transgender?
meant to say arent*since scarlett is obviously mogging zombiegrub
>>798014Friendly reminder that Scarlet has fucked more guys than zg
>scarlett is mogging zombiegrub
>>798022Isn't that pic 10 years old by now?
this is last year, he doesn't look bad, if I was drunk I would suck his penis
>>798034I'd let them give me a little succ. Absolutely no butt stuff.
It'd be cool if Scarlett was a girl
>>797006>I would laugh so hard if he became a better player than ArtosisI don't know anything about him but if he is as obsessed about SC2 as he is about Chess Artosis has no chance.
Arty will never get the respect he deserves
>>798018Of course. Zombiegrub is pure.
>>798072pure white trash
Can a native german speaker confirm or deny that Showtime sounds like a country yokel when speaking german?
ja. ich ist ein berliner.
>>798287He has a slight Saxon dialect which sounds goofy to most people who only hear and talk Standard High German, non-boomers speaking with a dialect is usually associated with lower class people.
>>798336Are you trans by any chance?
wtf how did harstem 2-0 classic
Harstem is a banjo, just like haypro
so there's no universe in which serral DOESN'T take this right zerg bros?when are we gonna get the respect we deserve?
zerg hasn't been worthy of respect since sc2 came out, the race has consistently had the most bullshit overpowered strategies since day one and yet they still kvetch whenever t or p has the audacity to beat them
>zerg hasn't been worthy of respect since sc2 came out>since sc2 came outHello there, anon. Did you forget about me?
I keep mistaking showtime for noregret because both of them were pudgy with brown, wavy hair back in some NationWars cup
only one of them bangs a tranny on the regular though
Predictions for today?I think Serral and Neeb take it.
no zg today
>>798543Are you saying that zerg players don't deserve respect in BW because of a Tier 3 unit?
based esl saving the best caster for last:^)
why do they hate us so?
You WILL watch the pajeetYou WILL watch the roastieYou WILL cheer for the trannyAnd you WILL be happy
>>798663I'm saying they don't deserve respect because they have the most blatantly overpowered shit in both games
>>798671this is what tosstards actually believe
>>798689terran and protoss both agree that zerg is OP
Feardragon and Catz...Is Rotti sick or something?
>>798690I'm a toss-bro, but to be fair, terrans say everything is OP, other than Terran.
rotti is too white
Clem 3 - 0
Suddenly I got flashbacks to that one time during an official tournament, when Catz was whining about some random guy in chat saying he said something wrong.
>>798765HOWEVER. THISGUYINCHATTHINKSTHATIAMINCORRECTHOWEVERLITTLEDOESHEKNOW THAT I. AM CORRECT. OHMYGODCLEMJUSTAMOVEDSOMEMARINESINTOTHENATURAL. OF. SHOWTIME.
the browning of sc2 casters
>>798693I miss incontrol more than ever.
>>798803based DTs was too good for this world...
>>798803God takes his best soldiers earliest
Do you believe in a thing called Roach?
If incontrol wasn't dead he would have get cancelled
Why does Catz keep saying "ja"? Is he German?
Thank god I'm not an anglocuck and I can't listen to other casters
do you get auto banned from the chat if you say poo in the loo or pajeet?
>>798868¡Ya está! ¡Jajajajaja!
Maybe I should watch Indy...
serral is going to shit his pants again
serralsisters.. I-I don't feel so good...
This is Beckett Industries, say something nice about it!
Why is there daylight in Clem's room?
>>798905thumbnail looks like susie from deltarune.
TWINKS BTFOAUTISM REIGNS SUPREME YET AGAIN
Wtf? How could a Mongolian win the European tournament?
Astrea or Sneeb?My bet is Sneeb winning the whole thing
>>798986Scarlett will make history as the only woman to win a championship in 2021
She will win screencap this
Scarlett 4-2 over I can't Sneeb
Sneeb 5-0 over troonlett
i just saw a team winning 18 million dollars, meanwhile sc2 pros are fighting over thousands to tens of thousands of dollars
>>799026it's about the glory, not the gold
>>799029in the post win interview they asked the winner what he would do next>i just won 4 million dollars why would i keep playing this game?
>>799032they have a contract
yeah i'm not watching pvp tell me when they get to scarscar
>>798992I like how Rogue always looks like he's on sedatives.
such amazing commentary from catz and pajeet...
nobody told me...shall be watching this muted
>>799310I-is that real? How did they teach a cat to do that?
that was an insanely shitty finals especially that jumunji game
I sneeb for neeb
anyone else notice how often they say 'transition' when scarlet is playinh?
what the fuck is sneeb doing
>>795794newest one should be in there now no complaints about being late because fuck you
what jumunji game
>>799342thank you sir for redeeming
trannybros we got this
oh no no no sneebros we got too cocky
It took me some time to notice how assymetrical FearDragon's face is.
they casted like it was a round of 64 game...
>>799357at least they paid attention to the match unlike artosis and tasteless who just talk about horse meat or korean prostitutes all game
>>799357nabros we get no respect...
Casters of Sc2>spends half the game talking about how nothing is happening on the map>doesn't pay attention to the game in progress>misses stuff all the time>does shitty takes & predictionsWhy wont they just... Like, cast the game, bro?Also, NA is represented by a Tranny.
>>799365They should have lambo and harstem cast all the games after they get eliminated.
>>799371the only good one of the lot
So when will any worthwhile tournament happen?
October 30th for BSL13November 9th for DH PlayoffsNovember 22nd for Super TournamentNovember 26th for TSL
gsl will be back next year right bros?
no, that's why sos retired
GSL will last another year2023 it will be replaced by Dreamhack Korea ft. FearDragon and ZombieGrub2024 ESL will pull the plug and SC2 will be dead2025 the servers will shut down and everyone with skill will move back to Brood War
where is anons rtshe was supposed to save us
>>799466Right here.*unzips dick*
According to Aligulac:Top 3 world: Serral, Maru, ReynorTop 3 Protoss (world): Zest, Trap, ShowtimeTop 3 Terran (world): Maru, Clem, CureTop 3 Zerg (world): Serral, Reynor, DarkBest vZ: ClemBest vP: SerralBest vT: SerralTop 3 Protoss (KR): Zest, Trap, Parting, Zoun, HerOTop 3 Terran (KR): Maru, Cure, Bunny, Byun, DreamTop 3 Zerg (KR): Dark, Solar, Rogue, DRG, RagnarokTop 3 Protoss (Non-EU/KR): SNeeb (America), Astrea (America), Has (Taiwan), Nice (Taiwan, Tranny #2 (Nina) (America)Top 5 Terran (Non-EU/KR): TIME (China), Special (Mexico), Kelazhur (Brazil), Masa (Canada), Vindicta (America)Top 5 Zerg (Non-EU/KR) Trannylett (Canada), Cham (Mexico), Erik (Brazil), Meomaika (Vietnam), Ryu (Peru)Top 5 Protoss (EU): Showtime (Germany), Maxpax (Denmark), Harstem (Netherlands), Gerald (Poland), Gungfubanda (Germany)Top 5 Terran (EU): Clem (France), Heromarine (Germany), Uthermal (Netherlands), Spirit (Poland), Marinelord (France)Top 5 Zerg (EU): Serral (Finland/Mongolia), Reynor (Italy), Lambo (Germany), Elazer (Poland), Vanya (Russia)Do you believe this to be accurate? Thoughts?
>>799591pretty fair, its weird not seeing rogue in top 3 zerg thoughas well as seeing showtime there (but i guess old top protosses quit/went to army)aligulac overvalues EU players anyway probably because of the number of tournaments there or something
>>799609Rogue's been on a losing streak recently, so it's not a surprise.
>>799609Rogue is notorious for selectively performing, and since Aligulac doesn't rate a random weekly in an off-time zone with high ping any different than the finals of a premier tournament it hurts his rating. It also is just broken all around for comparing people in different regions given the low amount of offline matches right now.
>>799634Not really, Rogue's most recent losses have all been to Koreans except one.
>>799646also losing to protoss doesnt count because they are overpowered
haven't followed scII for about one year, why is reynor so bad now?
he has a gf
Surprised that Showtime is ahead of parting and zoun in the world
>>799453Imagine if SC2 dies and Serral, Reynor and Clem move to Broodwar. Alot of Koreans say that it'll be terrifying if they reach their current SC2 level of skill on BW and it'll not take long since the fundamentals of both games strategically are pretty similar. Hell some SC2 matchups are significantly more brutal in SC2 then BW like ZvT, PvP Disruptor wars and ZvZ. Maybe BW will finally have a topdog foreign player if that's the case. I don't know if I'm correct, I only watch Tastosis cast ASL.
>>800118Would artosis be sad if some zoomer became a better brood war player than him immediately after leaving sc2
>>800142I don't think he was too upset when he lost those 2 showmatches to /ourgirl/ when She played for a few weeks, if any top sc2 pro switched and beat him he wouldn't be too mad
>>800209Even if they played pr*toss?
>>800216Scarlett played protoss both times they played so I'd assume so
>>800118stop dreaming, nobody is going to play brood war lmao
>>799825he got a gf
>>800118Only Serral has the mind power to compete in BW
>>800434Clem would be the next flash
>Because he.... Well he just would ok
zergs only know how to a move
we are past bump limit and on page 9
>>800500this is a slow board we'll be good for another couple days
just informing my bros and grabbing these sweet digits at the same time
there is something new>>800511