Remember when Koei made games that weren't set in the Three Kingdoms or Sengoku eras?
>Winning Post is a thoroughbred horse racing simulation game series from Koei Tecmo (originally Koei)>Winning Post 9 - Windows, PlayStation 4, Nintendo Switch (2019)There you go senpai
>>580940yes but how did they do in sales compared to Three Kingdoms?
I want a Thirty Years War Koei game so bad bros...
>>580940As if american goyvolution is any betterAlso, why japanese strategy games are so fucking bad? They are like final fantasy
>>580977is there an option in that game to be like Bob Baffert and dope the shit out of my horses and run multiple horses in the same race solely so I can use one as a blocking tackle so I can win the triple crown?
>>580940Love old school Koei. Uncharted Waters and Le Emperuer.
>>583443That and Koei doing an old school Vietnam War strategy game.
>>580940They had some pretty decent games in the 90s.
>>580940Remember when this board was new and there were no console kids or /v/tards here
>>583779And then you came along and ruined everything. Damn shame.
>>583779YeahIt was pretty shit back then. Enjoy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l09FUwsQYlY
>>583263Uncharted Waters is still truckin'.
>>583276Gemfire was the coolest.
>>583779Love me some Operation Europe. Why you so mad, bro?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paz12a9KOpQ
>>583779Ha, that was never reality.
>>583263Love me some RotTK.
Is Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV good?
Pretty sure they still do.They're just not released in the west.https://youtu.be/vyPnj8_BKJQ
>>586716Nope. Koei hasn't made a good Romance of Three Kingdoms game in 15 years. The last really good one was RoTK 11.
>>587083Which one lets you play as a soldier or advisor working his way up to warlord?
>>590039Even numbered entries, X and VIII are both excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0rlo6JbUJUI wish they brought these games to the west man.Why cant we enjoy being pirates?
>>590532I really wanted to play Costa del Sol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE0EsDvehZ8
>>591436Those are some funny portraits for the characters there.
>>590532i want to play this boooo
>>5900397, 8, and 10. Those were the ones where they added a lot of rpg elements. 7 was way too easy to break though. 8 was probably the best out of the 3 of them.
>>590532they failed to port so many of them it's not even funny. If you like the Nobunaga's Ambition games, there was Taikou Risshiden V. In that game you could play as a daimyo, officer, merchant, ninja, even open your own dojo. Unfortunately it never got ported. But if you check steam for Romance of the Three Kingdoms IX, there is a discussion where someone posted a translated version of the pc game. I've installed and played it, it works just fine. Just some of the chatter isn't translated, but it largely works well.
>>592986Breh taikou rishiden V has been fan translated in English, yiu just need to download the jap version on nyaa, install slap the translation file in and done
>>590532Apparently they're working on a new one (I think it's an mmo) called Uncharted Waters Origins. There is Uncharted Waters Online, but a lot of people have said the power gap between new players, and those that have been playing for 5+ years is just too great. Everything is too expensive for a noob, so it's not worth it.
>>593001I know, I've got it. But there's an all in one package on the steam discussions for Romance of the Three Kingdoms IX. Lots of games that should've been ported, but never did got fan translations. Like Destiny of an Emperor 2 for NES.
>>580940Liberty or death and genghis khan 2 are unironically the best SNES games they made
>>593033Uncharted Waters 2 was also a really good one. Aerobiz Supersonic was a fun airline simulator, but it was too easy to break with international flights in the later eras.
>>580940Clearly they weren't good enough or they'd still be popular. It's of more interest to just establish what is the best modern Nobunaga/Three Kingdoms games.
>>593054"Good quality" does equal "good sales". As one anon already mentioned, post-PS2 era Romance of Three Kingdoms games have mostly been ass, but they keep getting made because people keep buying them.
>>593002It's a gacha game I think.I'm willing to give it a try if a global server is ever released for that one
>>592986Thanks for that tip anon.I'm gonna try that Taiko game.
>>593838Koreans seem to hate it btw
>>594039It's pretty good. The sparring matches are a bit of a pain until you get the hang of how the movement system works. But there are some simple trade routes that can make you some money pretty quick. Maybe pick up a quality spear (because those really help when getting used to how the sparring works), and get used to the sparring. The game honestly is a lot of fun. It's more in depth than Romance 7/8/10 for sure.
>>593838Gacha's fine by me. Most of them these days are pretty forgiving. You won't be a top player if you're strictly f2p, but there's enough quality stuff you can get if you want to go strictly f2p.>>594461probably because they can't buy their way to victory
>>594491I've heard the opposite desu. "Pay to wind" or something like that in relation to sailWell we will see if that game ever gets a global server anyway.No point in playing something completely in korean.
>>594545any source for reviews? I want to take a look at them. Plus, it's still in closed beta from what I've seen. So who knows what changes will be made if it ever gets a global release.
>>593033Inindo as well.
>>595129It's not reviews per say, I just threw the korean name of the game on twitter and google and google translated the results.But here's an interview about the reception of the first beta and some changes planned for a second cbthttp://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=251175&sw=%EB%8C%80%ED%95%AD%ED%95%B4%EC%8B%9C%EB%8C%80%20%EC%98%A4%EB%A6%AC%EC%A7%84&site=webzine
>>595426>>595129http://m.inven.co.kr/webzine/wznews.php?idx=253591&site=webzineActually I think I linked the wrong one.
>>595426>>595446Yeah, your second post was the one with the interview. Basically what I got from it is that you can pay to get a better ship, which gives you a head start compared to other people. But there's a lot of stuff they haven't implemented yet, like adventure missions, etc. So that would also affect the balance of the game. I just hope it gets out of beta, and gets a global release. I want to play UWO, but they haven't done anything to fix the power gap between new players, and people that have been playing since launch. So I'd rather skip that headache and play a fresh UW.
>>595808Well let's see.Truth to be told, I have not never played an Uncharted Water game, I just saw the trailer for that game while looking for Musou news and It looked neat.I have since then downloaded UW2 for Snes so I'll give that one a try.The age of sailing is such an underrated setting for games. I get that there's a bunch of asterisks about what people actually did on this time that it's very uh problematic, but even as someone who was colonized I love the romantism of sailing the seven seas for gold, glory and country
>>595808The economy also seemed a bit fucked up, not making long distance trading worthwhile and it looks like the language system caused more annoyance than anything else.
>>580940Chinks and Japs eat that shit up like it's crack cocaine, LoD was an attempt to appeal to the west but strategy games don't appeal to the west and it didn't do so well in Japan or China due to not being set in Asia
>>595827UW2 is fun as fuck. With any game, there are some mechanics that can break it easily. But I really liked trying to establish trade routes from Japan to Europe.>>595834it's their first closed beta. They said they're working on it. They don't want to have the team have to directly intervene anytime something gets out of whack with the economy. The language thing is an interesting, if not new mechanic for any game. Maybe they'll keep it, maybe they'll scrap it. As long as it gets a global release and I can have some fun sailing the seven seas, I'm okay with it. I think the last game I really had fun with that was Assassin's Creed Black Flag. But it was pretty light on the combat, and trading was non-existent.
>>595847I have an open heart to the new game for sure.This is a series I've always had a cursory interest on it and if nothing else I think visually speaking the mobile game looks great.
>>595850>think visually speaking the mobile game looks greatyeah. They're using the unreal 4 engine on it. It's no wonder why it looks so good. Using the UE5 engine would definitely be too much of a stretch since mobile doesn't have the same hardware as consoles and high end pcs, but yeah, the limited footage I've seen looks absolutely great.
>>595839>LoD was an attempt to appeal to the west but strategy games don't appeal to the weststrategy games do appeal to the west. It's just that Koei was such a niche company at the time that nobody really gave a fuck about what they put out. They only started to gain some traction in the west when they put out the Dynasty Warriors games for ps2.
What's the best New Horizons?The Windows version or the SNES version?
speaking of mobile Uncharted Sea games, Tencent announced one based on IVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnKdgSbEiQIt's fucked up that theres going to be Origins and now Lord of the Sea.
>>596945not sure, never played the pc version. I only played the snes one. If the mechanics are the same, then you're not going to lose with either of them.>decide to become an adventurer>discover all kinds of exotic creatures and monuments>bank huge amounts of money>invest in some ports and get some tekkousens and fully rigged ships>go full pirate because why the hell not>the world is now your bitch
>>596945The PC version has more detailed graphics, but the SNES version runs smoother.
>>596560What a Chad.
>>597742BasedI love the artwork.
>>580940Playing Uncharted Waters Online right now. What's the issue?
Just wondering what would it take for someone to do the whole translation project thing for say UW4
>>583466Probably because strategy games are the domain of the PC, but the PC vidya market in Japan is somewhat underdeveloped because the stigma from the PC-98 days when desktop vidya there was mainly porn games is still there. The people there that play video games play on consoles whose libraries are full of jarpigs, so in order for a Japanese strategy game to sell you need to present it as a jarpig with strategy elements. Because of that, you end up with games like Super Robot Wars (which seems to have removed the turn-based strategy part altogether with the recent games) and Fire Emblem being the most successful strategy games, but people play them not because they like turn-based combat but because of waifu wankery. Even modern versions of Nobunaga's Ambition are character-driven, you'd get your map painting interrupted by p l o t all the time.
Is Uncharted Waters /vst/ or /vrpg/
>>583466You have shit taste and haven't played many.
>>598995BothSome of my favorite games are like this. Uncharted waters, Final Fantasy Tactics and the whole SRPG genre, King of Dragon Pass. Unfortunately people seem to want hard categories.
>>597902are you new to the game? If so you're going to find there's one hell of a power gap. The biggest complaint aside from the power gap, is that good equipment is very overpriced. So the people that have been playing for years and years have a significant advantage, because they can afford to buy them. Newer players are at a big disadvantage.
>>599291>are you new to the game?Yeah.
>>598555>Even modern versions of Nobunaga's Ambition are character-driven, you'd get your map painting interrupted by p l o t all the time.I'm pretty sure that in Sphere of Influence, you can turn off historical events.
>>599292well, if you want to scratch the UW itch, go for it. I mean it is f2p. I just remember from a couple of years ago first people playing as pirates complained they were too underpowered. Now it's the opposite. All the other plays are complaining that they're too OP.
>>599257true and also good taste
>>580977Why did japa love horse racing bros
>>605027I love Koei's old school artwork.
>>600157>>605027some pirate game? what's the name?
>>605497Uncharted Waters.The screenshot is from Uncharted Waters 2 and the concept art is from the first game in the series.And this is the boxart for the second game.
This is a game
>>596952>based on IVIsn’t that the one where you could but and own slaves?
>>606852That's Costa del Sol and it was the first run.
>>606852That's the third game I believe.
Some kind soul of /wsr/ uploaded the recently released 30th Anniversary Soundtrack on google drive after going through the impossibly annoying baidu download system.It has music from all the games including the MMORPG.Catch it if you can>>>/wsr/1028670
>>607778Who you really have to thank is the Nemo guy.
the remaster looks pretty bad
>>609041Do you think is that different?
>>580940>Literally op rn
>>600157can you spank her ass and make her into your personal crew?
>>596560>>597468He aged pretty well
>>610936What a Chad.
Wonder why they never made more Genghis Khan games
>>612573Atleast Ali looks better.
>>612968I mean Catalina looks pretty good I think.
>>612116it was either nobody really cared about mongolia, or they'd have to go even further into kublai khan's history. That would involve huge swaths of europe, and a metric fuckton of history to go through.
>>583466The American Revolution is actually pretty interesting from a wargaming standpoint. Particularly if one is into asymmetrical warfare. Not a lot of games based on it, disappointingly, but hey, at least we get lots of ACW games.
>>595839Well, they've got my attention, at least. Decades later.
>>583466What are you talking about? The American War of Independence has very few games about it.
How beginner friendly is the MMO for the Uncharted Water series.Im vaguely interested in it
>>612116>>613244There's no official statement as far as I'm aware.One could postulate that with the modern consoles, they envisioned that Nobunaga and Sangoku could keep a fanbase thanks to Musou games while no such thing exists for Genghis.At the same time, they did market the three as "The history game trio" but dropped that label for Genghis 4, which itself came out before Musou.Japanese wiki has a note that they simply sold less than the other two.
Anyone played Bandit Kings of Ancient China?Here's the sequel (PC version).
>>613755A Genghis Musou would be based tho
>>613777Exactly my thoughts after writing that down and pondering over it a bit.
>>613781It would mean that one of the main character weapons is the bow, so they actually have to make that kinda of moveset fun for once in their life.
>>613762I've played the NES version.Anyone here played (or even heard of) what is probably the most obscure oldschool Koei game, Ishin no Arashi? It was their first strategy-RPG hybrid under the "Rekoeition" label that would go on to be used for games like Uncharted Waters and Inindo.
>>614011>NES versionThe sequel has 2 version, the PC and PSX.>Ishin no ArashiI know it.But I never tried it.It's included in the 25th Years Koei Anniversary Pack.But most of the games in that pack are MSX version with remastered graphics.>RekoeitionThe first Rekoeition I played is Sangokushi Eiketsuden.It's the first in the Eiketsuden series.It's like Fire Emblem but 3 Kingdoms theme.I also play the Koumeiden (Zhuge Liang) and Sousouden (Cao Cao).Never play the Sengoku version of Eiketsuden (Mouri Motonari & Oda Nobunaga).
>>583276I remember the tactical AI in this being so bad (even by early Koei standards) that I had trouble taking the game seriously. Also buying and selling food was a free action, so arbitrage was absurdly easy and profitable. I can only assume the game was deliberately designed to be babby's first strategy game, the genre's equivalent of Final Fantasy Mystic Quest.
>>614465YesThat and Liberty or Death are baby's first Koei games.
>>613762Someone has been streaming speedruns of a Japanese PC version of BKOAC (the original, not the sequel) on Youtube recently. This is one of their most recent runs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLYID651Cu0I have no idea what's going on but it's evidently possible to beat the game in an hour and change.
>>614584those early koei games were so easy to break. I remember playing RTK 3 with a friend. He'd always choose the Dong Zhuo scenario, and keep asking him for financial assistance each turn. If Li Ru wasn't there, Dong Zhuo would always just throw money at him.
>>614465not to mention a unicorn keeps showing up over and over again. After about 6 visits your general is a titan on the battlefield.
>>613762More pic of BKoAC sequel.>>614584Impressive.I usually finish the game before taking all the prefectures and spend like 2-4 hours total.I only take all the prefectures once and it's tedious.
>>614866Tried playing as Anise in one of the mods I found in the net.In that scenario, all ruler starts ALONE (no vassals) and Anise is the weakest (18 War).This is her end game stat (115 War).
>>580940Anyone ever play the hidden scenario in L'emperuer where Napoleon escapes Elba?
>>616021I did.Damn hard because they are all allied against you.
>>616085Any general tips?
anyone ever tried playing the Tokugawa challenge scenario in Nobunaga's Ambition Iron Triangle? It was bad enough being tag teamed by Takeda and Oda, but I think they screwed up in development. The mission says other clans can defeat them, but the entire nation is in a coalition against you, so it never happens. Also, since they're in a coalition against you, even the Imagawa joins in on some attacks.
>>616619All AI are allied against you + you start with low resourcehttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/587411-lempereur/76525142
>>617125Thanks>>616970Iron Triangle is amazing. Too bad Tendou wasn't brought over. It looks like the best NA.
I'm gonna give UWO online a try.Does anyone have any tip when it comes to starting that game?
>>618024Check back in to tell us how it goes.
>>619614I will anon.Tomorrow is my last day of work until my vacation so I'll do that.
>>617458>Too bad Tendou wasn't brought over. It looks like the best NA.yeah, that one looks pretty good from the limited footage I've seen of it. I'm still just playing Sphere of Influence. The ones after it haven't exactly received high praise.
>>583779Koei games were also out for PC bro
>>620928Tendou is like Iron Triangle on steroids. Rise to Power and Lords of Shadow are also good. Unfortunately I couldn't get into Sphere. It seemed way too streamlined and limited.
>>621881try putting the settings to hard, picking a weaker clan, then having to go up against the Hojo. They are OP as all hell in SoI. I just like how they got rid of the doom stacks that Takeda would trample you with in IT. You actually had to make effective use of choke points and time out unit marches, as well as keeping an eye on supplies. If anything Iron Triangle was much more streamlined. You could throw 250k troops into one castle then just barge out of it with your top officers and pummel the enemy.
>>621907I was refering more to fief development and equiping soldiers. The whole district development paled compared to IT's and on PS4 you had to buy guns in preset quantities. Battles sucked too. I liked IT's massive map battles.
>>622015they did simplify fief development for sure. But they also got rid of that pants on head retarded doom stack shit that the takeda cavalry could wreck you with. Somehow 300k cavalry could stack on each other on a single lane, and hit you at the same time. The solution to that problem was just to magically stack rifles on top of your castle where they couldn't hit them. Both games have their strengths and weaknesses. Also IT was easy to break because all you needed was one S rank strategist with high INT, and they could paralyze an army 10 times their size. Then it's just easy pickings. I like playing both games, but IT had some incredibly glaring weaknesses. It was nice that you could put turrets at certain points and slowly chip away at the enemy. But the doom stack oversight was ridiculous.
What would you guys say is the best Nobunaga Ambition?
>>622384It's honestly up for debate. Iron Triangle was fun. There was the opportunity for research, which could give you a huge advantage. Not to mention that there was clan specific tech that would wreck your opposition. Takeda and Uesugi had some really strong cavalry tech. Oda had their musket tech. Muskets basically won in that game.I like Sphere of Influence because you have to plan out your marches. Even if you're a weaker clan you can choose and pick your attacks. If you have the right policies and castle/fortress developments, you can beat a tougher opponent. Both games are great imo, but they both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Never ever in the US
>>580940American Warriors when
>>580940None of you are going to post screenshots of this huh?
>>626792I wanted to try 天道 but the demo from 4Gamer won't work. I mean, it works but the game proceeds at like 5-10 FPS and refuses to use the GPU. The full version ought to have fixed this for Win10 but >60 doraridoos.If you meant LoD, that's abandonware and anyone could run it, but DOS-era games aren't exactly in the vogue.
>>626818What's the snes one like?
>>626792>use a search engine other than google>search for snes roms>get all of the roms with an emulator>you can now try it out for yourself
>>626820Just brighter, richer colors. I prefer the PC artwork for most Koei games of this type.
Porkyman Conquest sequel when? I just finished the tutorial campaign and it was pretty fun and unique for a Pokemon game. Only things I had gripes about were not being able to choose where deploy and teleports taking a turn to use. I felt the latter kinda slowed down the game too much. A newer Conquest with faster menu load times would be great.
>>628281where to deploy*
>>613029Koreans still don't know how to draw white people
>>627997This looks pretty cool.
>>628284It's not that bad innit
>>619614I've been playing for about three days now and I wouldn't say its been >smooth sailing but its been alright.As it expected theres some growing pains when it comes to playing a game that is 15 years old and still continues to receive new content so it can be pretty obtuse I think, but after reading a few stuff I think I've at least found my footing when it comes to the early game. I've been doing adventure stuff with some trading on the side but I have partake in exactly 0 stuff when it comes to the combat content. Only got into one fight and I ran away from it instead of actually fighting it. To be perfectly honest I'm not really into grinding combat, so I figured I might as well put that stuff later.It feels like a very heavy grind game, but then again its an MMORPG. And a lot of the content at least early game can be separated by 15-20 minute sail times where not a lot of stuff happens. Like sailing around the italian peninsula to get to venice felt like it took ages. Maybe I need new sails
>>631953Just sailing around Italy for 20 minutes sounds so relaxing.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6LKFzuuldf4I know you said you haven't engaged in combat much, but does the game let you battle at will or only in certain instances?
>>632133So when you sail in european waters you're in safe waters so you can't be attacked by players for example.But if I were to go to try to cross the atlantic to North America for example you'd go into hostile waters which means that you're free to be attacked by NPCs and players alike.On safe waters there are a lot of NPCs like "Local Pirate" or "Coastal Raider" and whatnot and supposedly they can attack you or you attack them, but I've yet to be attacked or attack them so I don't know if you can just jump into them to farm them like you kill a slime in an early MMO game.And as far as land battles goes, some cities like Genoa for example has the Northwestern Genoa outskirts where you can go on that have hostile NPCs that you can engage in PVE with. That's the only time I ever got close to fight someone, because a lot of adventuring can be done in those instances, though I mostly just ran away from those fights.
>>628281I'd like a Pokemon Conquest game with family/clan mechanics.
>>632249>>632133Also I've heard because of the nature of the population of this game (it's tiny out in the west) some of the content, specially the maritime/battle stuff suffers because of a lack of the natural PVP.
>>632283Romance of the Three Pokemon Kingdoms, why not.
>>633237ROTK aactually had is own Conquest-like spinoff with Yokia Watch.
>>635405Was that ever brought to the west?
>>583628Too bad the Japs never fought in the vietnam war. But they did fight in 'a' vietnam war....
>>583908this guy's channel got nuked not long after this was posted.
>>635910Nope. JP only.
>>636347I just want to supply firebases in SE Asia with old school Koei aesthetics.
>>597897That's Lee Van Cleef there second from the top. Ol' Angel Eyes.
>>636757Soul vs souless
>>637719Kind vs psycopath
>>593001I'm assuming there's no patch for the PSP version?
>>639083You can almost smell the wife's terror.
>>639083>>640266smell her terror? She looks like just as big of a psychopath as he is in that pic.
How could I forget
>>641347Not stalin's best pic, ngl.
>>641347Hitler was based as fuck in P.T.O 2. You just had to bleed the allied infantry forces.
>>639083that's a tough remaster
>>643289Hitler is in PTO 2? I thought it was just USA and Japen?
>>593838I think that series already has like 3 gacha games
>>636348what videos did he upload?
>>645630He makes a few guest appearances between turns. It's like a status report for the war in Europe. Also, if you satisfy some conditions early in the war, he will send Prince Eugen and Scharnhorst to the Pacific.
>>648613That's cool. I bought PTO 2 on the recommendation of an anon in the Daisenryaku thread and will probably get to it after I do a Shining Force 3 play.
>>648642It's a complex game, very rich with options. Good luck.
>>641347What a guy.
Speaking of what's the best ROTK for a beginner?
>>651152Romance of the Three Kingdoms 3
>>580940Revolutionary War Musou when?
>>655530How would that work? Washington bayonetting Hessians by the dozen?
>>655838>>655530a true american revolutionary war musou would actually be a shooter imo.
>>655838I just want to play as Ben Franklin wielding electrical powers zapping redcoats by the score.
>>656534Ben should be redesigned as a child gadgeteer genius with penchant for busty mommies instead of the grannyfucker Ben was in real life.
>>657190Based as fuck
>>605735How does it manage to be so soulful? Reminds me of the books I read as a kid
>>660637Ohrai's art has that kind of energy
>>660708Love this guy's stuff.
>>660708His stuff is pure soul
>>660708His L' Emperuer cover is amazing.
>>666764>>665687KINO.How's the game?
>downloaded ROTK X for PS2 and Sphere of Influence for PS3 a couple weeks agoI guess I should go play them
>>666807It's good. Get it on PC. There's a hidden scenario where if Napoleon gets captured, he escapes from Elba and you have to fight the alliance with a weakened France. A very challenging scenario.
>>580940anything like the coin game?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jHmlPiZL9MX6ikj-wI9PqCa3XHbJG0Zf/viewHere's the soundtrack for the 30th Anniversary Edition of Uncharted Waters with 10 CDs with musics from all the main line games and the MMO.There's some good shit in here, specially CD 1 and 2, imo.
>>669888>Liberty or Death: The American Insurrectiontrying to learn more gurilla stuff for my proud boys cell
>>670369Thank you, Anon.
>>647319soundtracks to the uncharted waters games. a shame because they're really nice and he was the only uploader for most.
>>657270I love this book.
>>673045There's still this guy:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=svAG-QD9MHo&t=25s
>>673045Oh fuck, I just now realized which YouTube account this was. I downloaded some of his extended cuts of UWO music. What a shame it's gone now.
>>674516Check out the CD posted this thread.It has like 5 CDs worth of UWO music
>>580940I unironically love this game. Was one of my favorites on SNES.
>>675052It's pretty good.
>>673659desu I think 1 and 2 are the clear standout music wise
Anyone here with some knowledge on how to play this game (Bahamut Senki)? There'a very few discussions about this game online and the manual and character guide doesn't explain some of the mechanics.
It's pretty amazing that Yoko Kanno started her music career composing chiptune soundtracks for Koei.
>>682780>>681924https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkBpdSOVUQcSome dude just uploaded the Dos OST for the second game
>>688391I want to smell her.
>>688391Even UW is coomer bait.
>>689219seamen smell horribly
Somebody make a tutorial for this or uncharted waters 2. I'm not going to bother learning otherwise.
>>580940is it worth playing Le Emperuer if you're interested in the time period
>>696455For UW: New Horizons just use gamefaqs. It's still online: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/snes/588823-new-horizons/faqs
>>696588Yeah, get it on PC so you can access the 100 Days scenario and hold on to your butt.
>>696881He better pray to the strategy gods.
>>583443Medieval II mods
I’ve gotten into UWO as well.Some of the shit that happens in this game is surreal, here’s me in my cog (which I thought was a fairly big ship) next to three steamships. One of them appears to be sinking.
And then this one burst into flames for no apparent reason
I ran into this guy off the Egyptian coast towing his ship in a galley
>>701606>>701610>>701612That's cool anonAre you going for Adventure, Trade or Combat.I played this game for Abit during my vacation a dm went primarily adventuring with some trading.Did no combat after like 60 hours of playtime.
>>701612This stuff is like a Joao Franco fever dream.
>>673659I can listen to this soundtrack all day.
>>670369This is good stuff anon, thanks.
>>631953Are you maeve in-game? Sorry I wasn't more sociable to you when I ran into you in Seville, I had no idea who you were.>>701862Trading mostly, with some adventuring and combat (not on purpose but when NPC pirates attack me, which is often)The thing about combat skills is that most of them or at least the ones that really matter are locked behind the combat class tree, while you can get by in trading or adventuring without the base skills. I read in chat that in East Asia you get constantly attacked by PC pirates and the only way to escape is by using Tribute Goods, a consumable that costs 30k ducats and only buys you 15 minutes of non-aggro and only from that player. Apparently people don't form convoys? Would be nice to have fleet battles between pirates/national navies and East India traders like what actually happened.>>702290I've seen a bunch more of them since them, I've given up making sense of the logic.Here's me at the cosplay area
>>708245Nah, I don't think I interacted with you anon.I've stopped playing as other stuff came up on my life.It's cool that there are like beginners getting into this (well i tried at least). There's something romantic about old MMOs that refuse to die
>>670369Are there any high quality releases of the actual 16 bit tracks? The orchestrated stuff is excellent but I also dig the lo-fi originals.
>>580940Best thread currently on VST.
Instead of making up new mechanics nobody likes and removing old mechanics everybody likes, just to justify yet another RoTK or NA......Why wouldn't they just make a glorified reskin of a game people already liked, in ANY other setting. I mean sure they couldn't recycle the fucking portraits again. But they could then sell the old RoTK portraits at a ludicrous price to turbonerds so they can have Diaochan leading the Continental Army at Yorktown. Hire me, you bastards. You have fallen so far, what could be the harm.
We're getting a new Uncharted Waters at some point.
>>718608Well there's at least 2 gacha games coming out.
>>718608I'd be happy with a translated Costa del Sol.
>>722733Its very sad how they didnt even try with the 4 rerelease
>>651152i played 4 a lot and it was my first rotk game
>run samurai warriors 5 without much fuss on craptop>samurai warriors 4 empires doesn't even start on emulatorWhat did rpcs3 mean by this?
>New Horizons has a Saturn port>it's not translatedIT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR KOEI BROS
>>726607Atleast they translated PTO 2
>>727099I own that one.
>>726607new horizons has translated ports to both snes and genesis. Where have you been for the past 25 years?
>>599293The historical events in SoI are great. They're easy to skip if you want, they provide a good combination of character and historical info if you care to read them, and they actually play heavily into the map painting. I don't really see the need to complain about them, especially when it's not only incredibly easy to turn the off altogether but doing so will drastically affect the AI and see it go full map painter (I.E. 1560 Imagawa with historical events vs 1560 Imagawa without).
>>606600Kessen deserved better than this, and so did the HYW
>>628281I'd love a PoCon2 with basic diplomacy and more vassal/retainer mechanics with the Pokemon having two moves (probably the biggest thing holding the combat back, imo). Part of me wants them to do just a straight adaptation of NA, but I'd also miss the SW waifus -that Koei already killed off in SW5-
>>596945>>597742I just realized I NEVER played the PC version. Holy fuck that does that look good.
>>728334I know I just want to play it with the Saturn improvements whatever they are.
>>728345>see it go full map painter (I.E. 1560 Imagawa with historical events vs 1560 Imagawa without).Even with Imagawa's leader not doing that suicide run against Nobunaga, you still have the Hojo which are so very much OP in that game due to having 2 top-tier generals right from the get go, and they also have a lot of weak neighbors with castles/fortresses with a lot of districts.
>>731122I saw it happen again.There are people who AFK outside of cities and there is also a random chance for your ship to catch fire.thatsxcom.xcf
>>730965Yeah, the Hojo are monsters in SoI compared to their relatively mediocre performance in IT, and I think the two big reasons for that are the Chiba are treated as direct retainers instead of vassals, which really isolates the Satomi and means even if they conquer the forts in Shimosa they're not going to have the retainers to effectively man them, while the Hojo also have access to one of the best policies ingame, which increases militia, population growth and happiness, and since they have the Kanto plain Low Land Taxation means nothing.Still 1560 Hojo AI will take longer to get off the ground than most since the Uesugi have pushed into Musashi and marriage alliances are indefinite, so if Yoshimoto doesn't die at Okehazama that more or less keeps them contained to Kanto long enough for the Takeda and/or Imagawa to blob.
>>731326>a random chance for your ship to catch fireYou may have just sold me on this free game.
>>731376>the Hojo are monsters in SoI compared to their relatively mediocre performance in IT,that's the crazy thing about it though. I've played through IT at least 20 times. Lately, Hojo just keeps wrecking shit because they're the first to get division of labor. >the first 10 years of playing the game Hojo does jack shit if Takeda does jack shit>last 10 years they just zerg rush because they got division of labor first, and a lazy Takeda couldn't stop the onslaughtI'm honestly just emulating the ps2 game at this point, but there has to be some kind of skynet code in there. Hojo has really stepped up their game since the game was dropped over a decade ago.
>>732498>that's the crazy thing about it though. I've played through IT at least 20 times. Lately, Hojo just keeps wrecking shit because they're the first to get division of labor.Yeah, the whole Hojo game really just comes down to a combination of how long they take to conquer the Satake, and whether or not the Takeda can conquer Echigo and Tokaido before they do. Five Admonitions allows them to totally eclipse the Takeda long-term because it helps their fortresses reach their economic potential far quicker, which is even more asymmetrical since most of them are on plains and half the Takeda fortresses only have three districts max.>I'm honestly just emulating the ps2 game at this point, but there has to be some kind of skynet code in there. Hojo has really stepped up their game since the game was dropped over a decade ago.I still pull out my old PS2 to play it every now and again. It's amazing how the Takeda went from totally OP in IT to pushovers in SoI. It's also proof to me Koei needs to stop trying to reinvent the wheel every game and just allow themselves to build on mechanics that work - we didn't need them to axe tech, and imagine how much better the SoI tactical battles would be with different unit types.
>>732892Iron Triangle and Rise to Power have some of the best AI I've encountered in a strategy game. Particularly IT,. I barely left my rear guard ports defended because I figured the AI wouldn't take advantage. I found out real quick as the computer nearly gutted my soft underbelly.
>>733571I actually don't think the IT AI is the best because it'll prioritize attacking ports over other targets - I.E. I've seen the Suzuki and Imagawa both try to take Toba port rather than push into Izumi/Yamato or Mikawa/Owari when the latter would make far more sense. It typically ends up sapping them of troops where they need them on the actual frontlines. It'll definitely catch you off-guard if you're not prepared for it, but it's something that can be easily blunted with some planning. The SoI AI maxed out is probably some of the best strategic challenges I've had in a Koei game, especially as a smaller clan (I remember years ago there was someone on the steam forums who managed to pull off a victory as 1582 Sanada against a maxed out ai and the only way they ended up winning was essentially pushing eastward and dragging out the fight with the Toyotomi long enough for Hideyoshi to die and Hideyori to take over, as leader stats will affect AI aggressiveness).
>>734767I liked how in RtP and IT, if you conquered too much of the map, the AI would flip the table and just have everybody join together in a coalition against you.
>>737020The Kessen mechanic in RtP was also great in particular, I don't like that SoI just reduced it to a large regional battle to help clear out traffic.
>>737059Kessen was a cool way to gamble your fiefdom.
>>627997Are these generally better on the Genesis or SNES? If it comes down to music I prefer the samples to the yamaha farts.
>>741848Snes is better. Koei games of this type don't rely on blast processing. I will say, Operation Europe seems a bit faster on Genesis, however the PC version of that particular game is the best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paz12a9KOpQ
>>701610This will always bewilder..
Is Nobunaga's Ambition good?
>>743466They are pretty fun, especially if you're a fan of the period. Just don't go into them expecting anything particularly complex, japanese strategy games are pretty casual.
>>743466>>743498They are, and there is complexity, the games sadly just can't seem to make up their mind on what aspects to keep complex since Koei tries to reinvent the wheel every other game rather than just letting the games build on one another. The tactical situation is very simple in SoI, but diplomacy is more dynamic and optimizing your castles/fortresses requires weighing heavy opportunity costs, as there are builds that can get you the most out of it immediately but they will lag behind compared to one that emphasizes growth caps over immediate gold/pop. Comparatively, Iron Triangle doesn't even have a 'tactical' phase - all the combat is handled on the strategic map, so the composition of your armies will affect where and how they can attack, and the damage they can do to the province (so raiding your enemies is a viable strategy if you're fine with loosing some fame). Character management is better than in SoI and money isn't as readily available for it, but the map is smaller and more predetermined. Rise to Power has an excellent tactical game but less involved economic sphere.Taishi is just bad, and it probably would be decent if Koei had bothered to port the PuK.
>>743498>Don't expect anything particularly complexLol, maybe the first one, sure.
>>743551Is it safe to say that Tendou is the best entry?
>>743498>Japanese strategy games are pretty casualIt's blanket statements like this that make me disregard your entire post. Giren's Greed, alone, makes your statement moot.
>>743725Probably best all-around, and I'm still bitter it (and IT's PUK) wasn't ported. My personal favorite is SoI because I feel it's strategic gameplay is some of Koei's finest, but every time I go back to Iron Triangle I see minor details and just think how much Koei gave up mechanically in favor of larger scale.I wish some western team would decide to tackle Koei's genre and give them some actual competition, but it's a niche market and I doubt it'd get much recognition without having Shogun 2-style battles.
>>743551How come SoI is good then they followed up with Taishi and it's bad?
>>580940this is real?
>>744449Don't forget that they actually followed up SOI with Ascension, which despite being built upon SOI was somehow worse. Sphere of Influence was a miracle, all of their other strategy games past decade were mediocre at best, even with PUKs.
>>744449Because SoI was shipped with all of its content for one, PuK included - which is not only a incredible considering it's (2015) Koei, but actually makes it worth the price. Taishi doesn't have the PuK, which from what I can tell looks like it actually hammers out much of the issues with the base game (and actually introduces interesting sieges), but also sacrificed most of SoI's strategic depth and choices in favor of trying to make the tactical battles more interesting - which it fails at, as there's no real distinction between unit types beyond professionals and militia, and they hobble the little emergent gameplay the SoI tactical battles had by restricting tactics and adding in phases. Basically most Koei strategy games are two steps forward, one step back, Taishi is two steps back and one forward, and many of the systems they did introduce (more involved agriculture, trade nodes, clan meetings, counties, etc.) to replace something SoI had are either hobbled by a poor implementation or are just shallow compared to their predecessors.>>745004I enjoyed the Osaka stuff for Ascension, but that's really the most I can say. I would have preferred they just updated SoI with an Osaka scenario/dlc and added in the tech system and building updates without them having to be hobbled by a discount Taikou Risshiden vassal system, but I guess that's asking too much of Koei.
>>580940I just want a reboot of PTO with the best aspects of I and ll. Same for Uncharted Waters.
>>725525Strangely, I got SW4E to run on RPCS3 without any issues the other day. But I have a new Ryzen CPU, so it's likely I just 'fixed' it by throwing excessive computational power at it.Is SW5 any good? I've been looking forward to a new Nobunaga-focused SW game for a while.
My gf wants a poster of this covermore importantly, so do I
>>748319First two thirds of the game are solid, ending is rushed and really falls off because of retarded twist villain and Team Ninja's hate-boner for the Takeda, mechanically it's not going back to SW1's glory days but I've had more fun with its gameplay than all of the SW4-era games and it requires a little more thought than usual because special npcs can easily break combos.
>>748470Koei artwork is phenomenal.
>>748638That's good to hear. How do they fuck over the Takeda? Given how 5 was supposed to align with a Mitsuhide-focused NHK taiga drama aired last year, I was worried it would be Mitsuhide-wank.
>>748470i am playing this right now as britsusing snes rom and playing on emukind of tiresome and slowanyone played other versions and know how they compare to snes one?
>>749100PC is better
>>586787Hey, that looks...(sees mobile in video title)...sigh, into the trash it goes.
>>749905it's going to be both for mobile and pc. You just gotta face facts. Mobile is a bigger profit generator than traditional games. Some people sink thousands of dollars into these kinds of games, and the maintenance for the developer and publisher is a lot less.
>>749788but snes version look much cutter>>749893better ui
>>750016curse of the capitalism
>>750062Is there a GOG version or something that will work easily on a modern pc?
>>750735>GOG versionnopesnes or sega version can be easily run on emulatorsand you need dosbox for pc versionyou can always play on web browser pc version>https://youtu.be/SfPEDCYZ7Hk?t=200snes >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mn5Xu27kP8snes look much better but pc version have better ui
>>750766I guess I should buy an everdrive and dig out my SNES.
>>753377i made pc version to run on dosbox stolen from gog darklands
>>755645That's pretty based tbdesu.
>>580940Is this Koei /gen/?
>>755982pretty muchI play Liberty or death and uncharted waters 2 on snes emupretty fun even if tiresome
>>755992Why is it tiresome? I have a loose PTO2 for the Saturn I paid $6 for but haven't played it yet.
>>755998outdated UIand snes version really hide information and you need check few screens to see all
>>756083But prettier sprites.
>>755645Pretty sure dosbox is free stuff anon
>>755992>>755998I love those games. LoD can get tiresome but the others are great.
>>756354i wonder why nobody is making a similar games like the old koei one or like brigandinemake map(or better maps) with risk style >provinces(or cities connected by roads)>make setting fantasy or non Europe/world and choose your era >make it run based with units and/or officers levelling up etc>add some provinces/city development>make characters interact with each other>add anime waifuswith some good production value it would be solid hit
>>757195A chinese studio took a crack at making their own RotK called Three Kingdoms: The Last Warlord, but that's the closest thing to competition Koei has as far as I know.
>>757351the problem is that is its chink game happening in ChinaI played few RoTK games and know story and somewhat enjoyed it but seriously the names of officers, leaders and places are big turn offI just want something like it but in more friendly settings
>>757358Is it the surname before a given name for you? I'm not big into RotK so I don't know if they do it there but having played a lot of NA I appreciate Koei at least bothered to put the given names of officers before their clan names.
>>757896>cao cao>cao pi>cao ren>cao mao>cao bao>cow pie
>>757351There was some japanese-only competition in the form of 天下統一シリーズ series, but it seems there wasn't much of a market for them in the end.
Anyone have working under Win7 Romance of Three Kingdoms 4?
>>757916>天下統一シリーズHadn't even heard of that series before, apparently from what I can find online they didn't even have officer portraits until 2008. Seems more like a passion project than any proper competitor.
>>757896>>757907Vietnamese isn't pretty but I nominate Mandarin as the world's ugliest language.
>>758082If you know Vietnamese, why not use the Vietnamese names?>Tao Thao>Tao Phi>Tao Nhan>Tao Mao>Tao Bao
>>758291I'm not that anon
>>758082Can Koei please make a Vietnam wargame in their classic? Thanks PC 98 Gen Westmoreland.
>>758082I personally think Korean is the ugliest of the three main asian languages
>>758082Thai sounds pretty wretched. Like those aliens in Mars Attacks.
It puzzles me why the first two games are on Steam but not this one.It's even more sanitized than the second instalment which borders on softcore porn with its harem system...
>>745004Ascension was Koei trying and utterly failing to appeal to fans of Taikou Risshiden and RTK10's rp-heavy style of gameplay while trying to also blend in NA's turn-based strategy with it, which was just a recipe for disaster. It meant that the game is needlessly overcomplicated (six stats instead of three and EVERY facility has to be individually levelled like this, not just the entire castle) and seriously hampers any freedom you have as an officer in those two games as you're basically confined to your Closed Space Colony in Ascension until you somehow get to Castle Lord, which you're then confined to instead. You can't wander around or even move outside.That, and utterly turning off historical events when you're a custom officer just means that the entire officer play is basically moot.
>>744449Also unlike RTK13 and 14 where English localization was just an afterthought at best (as evidenced by that the Custom Event character limit in the latter is WAY too short to even do anything meaningful with and is likely still set to the character limit for the Chinese version), SoI's English version was actually released with the NA audience fully in mind and not only comes with all the features of the PUK, but also is fully translated and optimized for the English language. Even just something as simple as the Custom Officer name limit tells you that they only implemented English localization at the last minute in the other games, really (i.e. SoI allows for 14 characters each in the First and Last Names while RTK14 in sharp contrast allows only 15 character in BOTH the First and Last Names combined...).
>>580940 What would be a good time and place for new Warriors series?
>>760028American Revolutionary War desuor the Crusades
>>760028American civil war
By the way Uncharted Waters Origin, the upcoming mobile game, is finally getting some updates on the development
>>766436What a waste of nice art on a mobile game.
>>766436Looks like Ali's psycopath wife.
>>766643>>766445Well it's going to be released on PC too supposedly.Still, it's a gacha game tho>>766566Might be. It was on a post about the bartender system and how you will be able to romance them and some bartenders can only be romanced by certain charactersNo idea tho
>>766851>Still, it's a gacha game tho
>>766851i have little to no hopes for all this mobile shiton whatever platform they gonna release it
>>766963>>766979Personally I don't have too much problem with it, because I'm already a veteran f2p player for gacha games so as long as it is quote-unquote fun it doesn't bother me.The trailer looks cool at least.If there's a global/english release I'll give it a lookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyPnj8_BKJQ&t
>>767042>that slow walking in citiesmeh`
>>767138I'm pretty sure you can run in the citieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUanz_FLjy4
>>767042Playing on a fucking telephone is so unappealing to me. This looks like it could be an okay switch game maybe? A proper PC game is too expensive for the gacha garbage.
>>767042personally i refuse to play any game that can be turned off when some suit decide that it not make enough bucks for himfuck this shitsp and offline mode or fuck off
>>769893That was the fate of the last two Uncharted Water games btw
damn a 4 month long thread
>>770037Keep on keeping on, Koei.
Here's something that happens rarely. Nob's Ambition Taishi has gone on sale. Is it as bad as they say? I've been waiting for news about the upcoming title, guess that'll come in about a week. But I'm also seeing some people talk about an upcoming PUK for Taishi. I thought Shinsei was gonna be an all new game?RoTK 14 is also discounted right now, but I've been playing that on Switch as it is. I really wish they'd just localized the 13 port instead, but I've enjoyed myself anyway
>>772785Shinsei is the new game to be shown at the start of October at TGS.Taishi's PUK came out ages ago (it added shit like more involved castle sieges), though I don't know whether it was localised or not. Maybe it's that?
>>772785>>772819Taishi was localized, but the PuK wasn't - although I think it did get a chinese translation. Taishi is really frustrating title for me as it's a mess of good ideas and bad implementation - every time I see something I like the fun in it is ruined because of how it's handled. 'Oh, want to expand a trade network? Too bad, monopolized.' 'Oh, want to have an interesting building system where each kori can draw from its surrounding terrain and battles can better economically affect provinces? To bad, most of the buildings are just for upgrading officers.' 'Oh, want agriculture to be more involved? Well you're only going to be able to fertilize a single castle even if you own half of japan just because you haven't unlocked the necessary policy.' Stuff like that, compounded with just the unnecessary removal of systems from SoI and even goddamn Ascension makes it something I can't recommend for someone who's choosing between it or SoI. More frustrating is that the PuK apparently addressed a lot of the game's problems.Hopefully Shinsei will be decent, but I don't have much hope, especially with how they handled RotK14.
New PTO when?
>>757896>>757907I still think the top tier name is Sima Wang.
>>775429Not a Koei game but I once rolled this character in Oriental Empires
>>775386Lord knows. Probably a mobile game.
>>778107Don't speak such evil.
>>775948i had a ding dong as advisor in eu4
>>583908Channel got nuked
>>641347>remember YOUR atrocities! Because I don't remember mine
Okay so Rebirth's gimmick is that all the underlings get their own AI and act on it. Battles are back to Creation's style. Devs are aware of the need to strike a balance between letting everyone do as they like and still having the player do stuff.I think it's a very neat idea. Certainly better than last Rotk's "Yeah, let's just add tiles back."We will see how well Koei manages a Sengoku Dwarf Fortress. But it's deffo something worth trying, imo.
>>783523https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo0TLeVaeE4New trailer for Shinsei is up.
>>783796>Still the weird turn-based-with-real-time hybridI wish they would commit into a fully real time NA game, like ROTK XIII or a Paradox game
>>783822The main use of the hybrid in NA is for season/historical events and ease of diplomacy. I wouldn't trust Koei to make a proper full time for NA.
https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/shinsei/Website for Shinsei, it looks like mapwise they're taking some inspiration from Paradox? It seems you can also put individual kori under a retainer's jurisdiction?
>>784057Can anyone translate? It sounds like one of the selling points is that the officers will do things on their own to some extent, without any player input.
>>784073'Warlords who move with AI The subordinate warlords support the player as "servants" who act at their own discretion. Aiming for national unification together, we will move forward! You can experience the steps of the Sengoku daimyo with your skin. The unprecedented "Nobunaga's Ambition" is "reborn" here. The vassals who act at their own discretion hold the fate of the power. The vassals choose their best move and act without the player's intervention. Make proposals to develop the forces, develop the territory, and respond to the invasion of hostile forces. Also, on the battlefield, it can be a step to break through the situation by judging the situation and advancing or making a proposal. The fate of power, such as power management and territorial expansion, varies greatly depending on the vassals. Move history together with your princes! As a daimyo, while being supported by his vassals, as a leader of them, he shows policies, sometimes gives instructions, and walks the path to unification of the world together. In order to develop the country, it is best to give the castles and counties under its control to the vassals as "chigyo" and let them rule. The development of the power changes greatly depending on the talent of the military commander who was given the knowledge. Over 2,200 warlords have appeared! Understanding various abilities and individuality and how to draw out the power of the vassals is the showcase of the skill as a Sengoku daimyo. Capture various battlefields! There are two battles, one on the national map and the other is a "battle" in which the troops are directly commanded on the battlefield. In the battle, the march route and the suppression of "key points" greatly affect the battle situation. Respect the suggestions and judgments of your vassals, give your own instructions, or read the war situation to win.'Looks like they're trying to do vassal management right this time arond.
>>784133So delegated AI will be better. Still not sold on leaving frontline fiefs at the comps discretion.
>>784689In Koei's mild defense, a good strategic AI has actually been one of the things they've been able to deliver on - viceroys worked great in Iron Triangle with the proper traits, and SoI's AI was pretty solid.
>>784190What a great soundtrack.
>>784133Or trying to fix the clusterfuck of RTK14's system, as it sounds like it's that, but with even more autonomy and less direct control.
>>784689It's probably a take on the Fog of War concept where there's just simply no way a commander is going to be able to micromanage every unit every single minute, and the sub-commanders will have to act on their own initiative sooner or later once contact is made with the enemy and communications between units and HQ becomes extremely uncertain the farther they get. That was why Napoleon got as far as he did early on in the Napoleonic Wars because most of his Marshals were also highly capable leaders themselves and could take charge of the local situation when they needed to.Except in RTK14 Koei did it really stupidly. You are supposed to give general orders at the start of each strategy phase to each unit, but once you go into the movement phase, those units will carry out those movement orders to the letter without regard for the current situation or allow you to issue new orders midway; So if you order Guan Yu to move to a square near Xuchang, Cao Cao goes after you in RANDOMLY DETERMINED INITIATIVE ORDER (so if your enemy that you're attacking goes after you in init, good luck with that! It means he can react to your attack without you knowing or being able to do anything about it until it's too late!), and he then sends five units waiting for him at that square, Guan Yu will STILL keep moving to that square like a dumbass and will subsequently get himself slaughtered unless he's somehow still alive by the next strategy phase.So it sounds like Shinsei is going to retain RTK14's delegation system but actually give the commanders much more autonomy to react to situations this time around, which is a good thing, because RTK14 was a clusterfuck.
Bruh this thread was made in May lmao
>>787382Koei is just that based.
>>787631They're the best at grabbing their niche by the pussy, yep
>>787631Info is one of the best games ever.
>>597897Soul vs Soulless
>>597897The right side smacks of Korea.
>>597897>>790169Did nuking the Japanese provide them with a soul? Other east asians simply don't have it.
>>784133>>787356can't wait for my generals to refuse an attack order because they had a tea ceremony with an enemy warlord 3 years ago
>>791346Thinking more Jomon admixture. Them coming back as an economic powerhouse in the 80s then a cultural one is pure underdog kino.
>>787356>Except in RTK14 Koei did it really stupidly. You are supposed to give general orders at the start of each strategy phase to each unit, but once you go into the movement phase, those units will carry out those movement orders to the letter without regard for the current situation or allow you to issue new orders midway; So if you order Guan Yu to move to a square near Xuchang, Cao Cao goes after you in RANDOMLY DETERMINED INITIATIVE ORDER (so if your enemy that you're attacking goes after you in init, good luck with that! It means he can react to your attack without you knowing or being able to do anything about it until it's too late!), and he then sends five units waiting for him at that square, Guan Yu will STILL keep moving to that square like a dumbass and will subsequently get himself slaughtered unless he's somehow still alive by the next strategy phase.Not sure if I understand you correctly, but can't you just give Guan Yu the order to attack any enemies he comes in contact with? That should override any other orders you give him. Plus I usually just approached castles really slowly, being just out of range from a castle's attack before I send a unit to attack it.
>>791993Unfortunately unavailable in my country.
Got PTO2 to work in a Windows 3 environment in DosBox, but I read that apparently the SNES version is better and the Saturn is the best. This is contrary to my experience where the console versions usually have issues with loading times. Anyone have any experiences with this?Also if anyone is interested in (playable) English versions of NA Tendou I think I can share.
>>794302Haven't played the win version but the SNES has some good music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZa21iMLfRk
>>794302Saturn is the best in terms of presentation and music. You'll get some WW2 clips before the scenario plays out. It also has the best graphics. PC is good and I think it might have a couple extra features like being able shore up damage at sea. All things considered, I prefer the Saturn version. SNES is way too slow.
>>794483Thanks, do you happen to know if the Saturn/PS1 versions of ROTK4 are also better than the PC version?
>>794538Only played the Saturn version of RoTK 4, but it was fine. No idea about the PC version.
>>794538pc version had mouse control but can't make it work on 7 it worked somehow on xp
>>795275You need to emulate Windows 3 in DosBox and install the game there
>>784190Nice song my dude.
>>760028The 100 years war
Does anyone have a working version (W7 is fine) version of the PC version of Iron Triangle (Kakushin) PK? I'd really like to try out the English patch. There's a torrent on nyaa.si but the PK installation tells me the original isn't installed correctly.
Sucks we'll never get Taishi PUK bros...
>>802108*Getting enemy officers to betray is coming back.*When a castle is besieged the defender chooses how many supplies to bring into it.*Create custom clans*Coalitions are coming back*An option for a full real-time battle system. The current hybrid system still seems to be available.*You can now extend alliances instead of waiting for them to run out then reassigning them.*Policy screen has been reworked; all policies are shown from the start instead of some being hidden, and seems the player now picks who attends the council instead of it being random.*The "tactics gauge" from battles in SOI seems to have returned to control the use of tactics. Possibly only in the real time battles and not in the current system? I'm not sure.*New tactics added for Mori Motonari, Honda Tadakatsu, Sanada Yukimura, Azai Nagamasa, and Kuroda Kanbei. These may not be the only new ones added.*There's a new way to raise officer loyalty. I am not 100% sure but it seems to be granting fiefs, which are gained when you capture bases.*Seems to now be options for negotiating the surrender of a besieged castle.*New "Super" difficulty setting, and it looks like difficulty is more customizable (like in SOI).*Randomizing start positions seems to have returned.*Battlefield traps. Most aren't translating well, but it seems to include floods and fire attack.*Many battlefield structures now available. Firstly, it seems Camps will now increase morale recovery of nearby friendly troops and the forts will do that as well as fire on nearby enemy units. There are also new structures on battlefields. What could have been...
>>802260Is this new stuff that's come out about Shinsei? If so it's good they're moving away from Taishi.
>>802514No, I took it from a forum post about the Taishi PUK analyzing a trailer
>>800379Would be interested in seeing more on this, IT was one of my favorite NAs.
>>580940Just translate Tendou and put it on the PS store.
I actually read Taishi PUK kinda makes the game worse. Because the strong point of the game is the combat. In the original game it's cool because it's based on moral, so you can more easily beat a larger force as a smaller one and strategy rather than numbers is emphasized. But in the PUK you have to win the old way again, by beating the commander or eradicating the troops.
>>806368I can share a partially translated version if you want
>hard difficulty is too easy>veteran difficulty turns enemy general nobodies into absolute gods of war that cannot be beaten in an even fight>stats are almost meaningless compared to friendship bonds and unique tactics>90% of the game is fighting enemy cities so only Fish formation is worth usingI am trying so hard to like RoTK14.
>>810287I enjoyed the fuck out of 13 so much I bought 14 without knowing about how they swithc between officer play and controlling a faction every other day and it was incredibly fucking dull
>>810287Veteran is good if you play the strongest force, like Dong Zhou in 189 or Wei in three kingdoms scenarios.I think every formation is useful, siege formations make taking down cities much easier, Arrow is if you need to send reinforcements somewhere fast, Awl is for taking cores or cut supply lines, Ring is good for strategists or if you are defending and outnumbered and Snake is a great for taking some castles in mountainous regions.The only not good one is Goose, which you can't use during sieges because the defense stat is too low.
>>811556Doesn't Goose allow a long-range attack? Or is that Crane? It seemed to be a decent complement when you have a unit locked up by a Ring.
>>811595Yeah you're right, but it's really only useful in that specific scenario.
>>810287eww is that shit on his hands?
>>812820well, it's not like they had toilet paper back then y'know
>>812820>>812898>unironically believing Dong Zhuo would be wiping his own ass
>>813010>implying Dong Zhuo gave any fucks and wouldn't wipe his ass with his hands>implying he wouldn't then shake hands with everyone he metyou have no idea how much of a chad motherfucker that guy was.
>>580940Some nigga doin a nobunaga thread
>>812820It appears to be so.
>>580940I really wish they would make another Napoleon grand strategy game.
>>819801Did they only make the one?
>>819880Yeah, Le Empereur. It's a good game, but would really benefit from an update with the Waterloo scenario available from the start instead of being a hidden scenario.
>>615558What a monster
>>598555>you'd get your map painting interrupted by p l o t all the time.I hate how japs love this shit so much. Do they have so little imagination that they can't imagine their dynamic stories and get immersed in it? I HATE BEING RAILROADED
>>821855Don't know what to tell you. Play Rotk X or Inindo or whatever.
>>821855There's literally an option to turn those off when setting up a game.>ImaginationThey fully realise that without actual differences between factions, you're left with a map painter where you simply pick which color to go with. Also called a Paradox game.
>>822335Paradox games are total shits.
I'm probably the only person still playing Genghis Khan II on the SNES from time to time.I love that game. I also love Uncharted Waters I and II. I love KOEI.
>>823752Great gamesGreat tasteI can pick up and play those timeless classics anytime.
>>824223Recently I played Nobunaga's Ambition II: Lord of Darkness and liked it a lot too. Too bad that it is extremely easy.
>>824551Try Lord of Darkness on SNES
>>825609>>825611I did play it on the SNES.The one thing that makes it easy even in higher difficulty settings is the fact that the AI will always split it's troops evenly among it's generals when attacking or defending, no matter how good these generals are in battle. Let's say the AI has 100 troops and 5 generals, 3 of which have a low war rating, instead of forming 2 units with 50 troops each under the command of the top two generals, the AI will give each general 20 troops, making it easy to crush them if you attack with a bulky unit under a decent general.
>>826406Thought you meant this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTV06jd9j3A
>>826406>>827611They're both good games.
>>821855You can play with historical events turned off. What I like about Koei's grand strategy games, is that they offer a lot of creative freedom in most cases.
>>821855I don't know how you can get immersed in a story when you clearly can't read since not only is there a big screen before every Koei game that lets you turn off missions and/or events, but most give you the option to reject individual missions and rarely have penalties for failing them.
how is this thread 4 months old
>>823752i played it recently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm5LlvyW-34&list=PL2E1B7F571F1A3C59&index=3rotk 6 sure had cozy music for conquering china
>>833292This thread goes back to May. Also, Koei is beloved and based, especially their older stuff.
>>833441I just wish more factions were playable. Playing as the Song Dynasty would have been so cool.
>>595838>Kou Shibusawa nervously chuckled when asked about these games in 2008 and remarked, "Gotta try everything in life once", before dropping the topic.Kek if true
Seeing as this is the 'Koei' thread>jesus christ how horrifying
>>843882>Lu Bu armyRIP everybody
>>843882that seems kind of not good
>>824551Tendou is balls hard.
>>641347my favorite console game
>>849013>CC Eisenhower>1940>as French commanderno wonder it was the japs who invented anime
>>849122Alternate history scenario.
>>849013Based>>849013The game lets you freely choose your officers. You can even use commanders that weren't available at the time to create "what if" scenarios.
>>583276>play as 12 yo princess Anise of house Terian>turtle up until all other characters die of old age>win the gamethey don't make games like that anymore :(
>>850028It's the easiest game I've ever played.Usually that's not something that bothers me if the gameplay is very good but the game is so simple and the AI so bad that it's just not worth replaying.
>>852376It's baby's first Koei grand strategy game along with Liberty or Death.
>>580940I knew this art reminded me of something. (I really love this style of cover by the way).
>>852654I won about 10 battles or so without being attacked even once in a battle. The CPU simply moved units around in the field without attacking, even when they got a flanking position or went behind my units. I'm not exaggerating. I even thought the game was glitched or something.I think the first time my units got hit was against the big bad evil guy with the dragon summon. There are easy games and then there's Gemfire which is barely a videogame.
>>852798Did you play the SNES version? Maybe the DOS version has better AI
>>853071Yes, SNES version on emulator.
>>853074SNES is pretty well known for having a poor CPU, so who knows the DOS version might be a bit better.
>>852714Same here, Anon.
>>852798You can try the MSDOS version for an improved AI, but frankly, I have never seen that much passive AI behavior in Gemfire. Sure it's easy, but maybe it was an emulation issue? I've only played the original SNES cart. Really though, Gemfire and LoD are the FF Mystic Quest equivalents of Koei's catalogue.
>>853196What about Rise of the Phoenix?
>>853256Skipped it for Romance IV on Saturn.
>Koei thread>no one talking about KessenMaybe people want to forget about what happened to that franchise with 2 and 3
>>854686They fear the Tonbogiri.
>>852714Degwin looks like Marlon Brando.
Red pill me on Nobunaga's Ambition.
Kill off Akechi, then Tokugawa, prevent imperial japan from happening. Oda more renowned than george washington himself.
>>595838This isn't just some weird trivia man, some of this was pretty influential. Night Life for example is more or less the first eroge game, it made one Hell of an impression at the time and basically kickstarted the whole genre.
>>859988>Be Koei>Make the first grand strategy game>Make the first eroge gameIncredibly based
>>593001>all events are still untranslatedI appreciate the effort and I'll certainly try to make something of this but what a shame.
>>859988That's crazy, lol.
>15 hours into a campaign>your stalwart general who has been with you near the start dies of natural causesF
I'm loving the Samurai Cats portraits in Sphere of Influence, wish every officer had one, Shingen looks adorable.
>>864227>Cat Shingen's armor has the Takeda crest but it looks like Pawskino.
>>864227Lolwut? This is great!
Have you guys got any useful advice for playing ROTK XI? I'm fairly new to this series and I'm figuring stuff out on my own, the glossary is rather helpful and the rest is just trial and error but I'm sucking ass at this game so far. I spent the entire afternoon as Dong Zhuo, playing baby's first preset scenario and I only have Cao Cao's one fort to show for it. Given how awfully lenient this beginner scenario feels I imagine I would get steamrolled in any of the regular historical scenarios. The game's very addictive though, looking forward to playing more of it.
>>864556Koei games are like that, you read a manual or spend hours and even days trying to figure basic stuff out. But once you learn how to play the games it is always worth it.
>>864556To learn how to play, I really recommend playing as Liu Bei in the Liu Bei in Shu 211 scenario. You can find it under the 'preset scenarios' list. Starting with a 100 intelligence strategist means its advise is always right, which is incredibly helpful until you get a feel for the game. I'll post some general advice and guidelines on how to play in this post, with a more detailed step-by-step for this scenario in a following post.>for economic buildings, you want a combination of 3/4 markets surrounding a mint and 3/4 farms surrounding a granary. Some of the better cities will let you have up to 6 depending on the build slots, while a few shitty cities give you even less to work with.>for military buildings, you want a barracks, at least one smith, a stable if you have cavalry officers and at the beginning you want a workshop to produce a ram/juggernaut>morale is tactics/strategies mana and you'll want it at close to 100 as possible whenever you're able to fight>when recruiting I use a cycle of recruit, inspect and drill in that order. Don't worry if you haven't got enough officers or turn mana to top up your morale. I try to keep public order above 90 at all times where possible.>personnel - reward every time you're able to do so. Officer loyalty below 95 means the office is at risk of defecting>check personnel - search each month until your 100 intelligence strategist tells you not to do it. This is how you find new officers, which are the most important resource in the game. Once you do this and an officer is found DO NOT EMPLOY MA'AM. If you try to employ and fail the RNG, the officer will refuse to join you for months. Once you have found an officer via search, decline the employment and then go into personnel - employ officer and employ them without a risk of failure.Post too long, 1/2.
>>864671>when deploying officers, the unit will mostly have the attack and defense stats of the leader general. The unit will use the highest APT and the highest INT out of any of the three officers for its stats however.>LDR determines your attack, WAR determines your defense and INT determines how likely you have to pull off or resist a strategy.>in general APT is the most important criteria when picking an officer, followed by stats. Try to always use S, and if not, A.>all officer abilities apply to a unit, regardless of whether they are leading or not. Some officers like Ma Su, Xun You, Pang Tong and Guo Jia have a more natural fit as a sub officer>the strategy Perturb is incredibly useful if you have officers like Zhuge Liang and Cao Cao who can reliably use it>the same applies to Rush, the spear unit tactic>high LDR low WAR officers should use bow units where possible, as the fire damage element of the fire arrows tactic isn't influenced by stats>low int leaders like Zhang Fei or Lu Bu should always have a high intelligence officer in their unit to stop them for being permanently perturbed>the game decides on which officer leads a unit by selecting the officer that can command the most troops. This can be arranged in the sovereign - ranks menu when selecting a city >when attacking a city, you want to use a siege weapon.>Juggernauts > Towers > Rams>develop juggernauts is the first technology I recommend getting, as it permanently upgrades all of your rams to juggernauts>when deploying a siege weapon unit, WAR is the most important officer stat. In a lot of cases you will be best off picking a higher WAR officer without the S APT to lead the unit and then use a supporting officer with the S APT. An example in the Liu Bei scenario would be Wei Yan leading the unit with Huang Ying as a supporting officer.>when attacking a city, bring at least 500 gold. If there's 0 gold in the city, you'll let the prisoners go and your officers will lose loyalty
Thread has been going since May but has hit it's limit. However, Koei /gen/ shall continue.
>>864721Good thread, anons in here got me to buy PTO 2.
>>864721I haven't been on /vst/ since October and was pleasantly surprised to see this thread still up when I came back on. The people here are more devoted to Koei strategy than Koei.
>>854686I like Kessen 3 - but I also say that as someone who played 3 before 1. There's a lot I can praise about Kessen III; the storytelling and characterization being some of Koei's best, the solid BGM (I can still remember the Takeda battle theme), the ambition in allowing the player to micro any unit they wanted and control the battle on a macro level, adding another level to the battle with rampages, and army customization being more useful and defined than in 1.But the low fantasy elements, the loss of army politics, the button mashing of the tactical combat and the linearity of the story (albeit forgivable for its length and being genuinely engrossing) is probably what gave us Bladestorm. Kessen III might be the best Kingdom Under Fire game, but it isn't a Kessen game.
>>864671>>864682Damn, thanks a lot for the quality reply Anon, I'll be saving this and putting it to use a lot later on, I'll also give Chinese Jesus' scenario a run. Kinda glad I already figured out some of this the hard way, like I laughed my ass off when in my Dong run Lu Bu betrayed me before I got a single attack off with him, a siege turned into a meat grinder because I forgot siege equipments exist etc. Even when I started paying attention to loyalty I didn't really see the problem because surely a general who's at 85 loyalty is insanely loyal still but of course not. Game's surprisingly in-depth and was fun once I got hold of the very basics so I'm eager to learn and play more, cheers.
>>864721Based thread. All of you guys are great.
is ROTK 14 better or worse than 13 ?