>see mention of Fallout Tactics>post about how much I love that game >get told that I have shit taste >ask why the game is shit>"Because it's a crappy twin stick shooter and blah blah..." Lul wut? >type out a lengthy reply correcting their mistake>refresh before posting>several anons mindlessly agreeing with him>erase reply Why are zoomers like this?
>>510150shit thread, but to answer your question: It's because zoomers are retards.
>>510150They're mixing up FT with that shitty console game. For some especially retarded reason, they both contained the "Brotherhood of Steel" bit in their names.
I love Rise of Legends but that doesn't make it a good game. Tactics was a shit sequel.>zoomersIt was always considered a shit game, anon.
>>510309I don't think whether the game is good or not matters in this case, what matters is that they called it a twin stick shooter when it clearly isn't.
>>510150>zoomersThis is literally older than zoomers.It's just people, anon. Most of us aren't too bright.
>>510272It's Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel vs just Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel? That's messed up. I guess the zoom-zooms can be somewhat excused in this case.
>>510150They're just confused with this piece of shit game.
I remember everyone shitting on tactics somewhere 10+ years agowhat changed?
>>510361I honestly don't remember people shitting on it besides the lore autism.
>>510361My memories are of people shitting on it as a Fallout game, but otherwise not much against it.
>>510361Despite "tactics" literally being in the title, it took some people a long time to figure out it's a tactical combat game and not a role playing game.
>>510150Stop posting on /v/, simple solution.
>>510150Most anons on /v/ are retards
>>510361>10 years ago was 2011 Dammit
>>510361The NMA crowd used to hate Fallout Tactics but now that they have Fallout 4 suddenly Tactics doesn't seem so bad.
>>510150Its not zoomers, its the fucking CRPG drones who unironically think bad combat (and thus bad gameplay) is excusable
>>510150>making a thread to explicitly relitigate an online argument that you lostI genuinely can't think of something more pathetic.
Why does everyone feel the need to have an opinion about games they haven't played? Classic Fallout is the worst case I've seen.
>>510150>>510351>Any1 being actually this stupid and illiterate... NO PITY
>>510361Redux mod came out and made the game pretty much require realistic tactical planning like it supposed to from the getgo?
>>510150Two reasons:1) Regurgitating memes from the time when Tactics premiered2) Confusing Tatics with BoS, a trash game for consolesFirst relates to the fact when Tactics came out, people were expecting Fallout 3, and got baby's first tactical shooter (don't get me wrong, it's a GREAT baby's first tactical shooter) that also angered lorefags a whole lot.Second is just being extreme zoomer and confusing two different games, where BoS is a legitimately awful game and should be best forgotten, not confused with Tactics.
>>513761>and got baby's first tactical shooter (don't get me wrong, it's a GREAT baby's first tactical shooter)>TacticsAnon...
>>513810>The point>YouBut thanks for proving it anyway
>TFW you find out how to get past the invisible minefield in the St.Louis mission and by abusing force-fire with grenades (also savescumming incase they blow your chars face off by accident) you manage to finally kill the 2 PITA SuperMutant guards from the opening dialogue scene, who can easily wipe-out your whole squad in one lucky M2 Browning HMG burst, therefore obtainiing more DU .50cal ammo than its possible to carry in anything besides the APC... And people say that Throwing is useless in Fallout
>>513761>baby's first tactical shooterTactics is not an easy game, nor is it a shooter.
>>514443Explosives are your bread and butter in tactics, having one guy specialized in throwing is as essential as having a dedicated demoman or healer.
>>514461>Stupid zoom zoom doesn't even know what a tactical shooter is>Can only operate in FPS/TPS logicNo wonder you morons can't even associate the right game with your complains.
>>514443>>514651It's almost as if the game was a squad-based, bare-bones tactical shooter, focusing on specialist soldiers...
>>514780>It's almost as if the game was a squad-based, bare-bones tactical shooter, focusing on specialist soldiers...try explaining that to the rpg fags crying and screeching about "muh van buren"
>>510350to be aware of BoS (aka PoS) they'd have to be more boomer than zoomerthis game came out and was shat on in the days of vbulletin forums
>>516291If anything, PoS didn't receive even 1/10th of the hate it truly deserves.
>>511138t.b.h. I love how the Redux mod basicly makes the base game obsolete by fixing the gunplay / combat mechanics AND brings some of the cut content into the missions and bunker maps to make them more lively and reward exploration...
>>514779It is not in any way a shooter you fucking retard
>>514779Tactical shooters generally refer to games like Arma, SWAT, Operation Flashpoint, Rainbox Six, ect.
>>514443IIRC thats a misconception due to how in the 1st Fallout game Thrown Weapons including grenades were bugged to never cause Criticals until the sequel fixed the damage calculation
>>518416>Another zoomer brainletRemind me - what's the game about? Was it about a squad of soldiers doing short, tactical missions? Or was it something else? Was the main EFFECTIVE armament variety of firearms and hand-held explosives?But I guess if one is a zoom zoom the only thing that is a shooter is CS.
>>519833>every game with guns is a shooterRetard.
>>519909>"Tactical shooters aren't shooters, because I say so">Anonymous zoom zoom, 2021
>redux mod>read in patch notes that heavy machines guns were nerfed for being too OP>remember heavy weapons being kind of shit late game as opposed to energy weapons 18 years ago, but ok>get M240, it's fucking amazing>shredding supermutants like tissue paper>get M2>it's fucking worthless>apparently the nerfs only applied to the M2 and the end-game chainguns>it can't do shit against basic bitch humanoid robots even with DU ammo>dreams of using heavy hardware dashed, forced to use energy weapons in the last quarter as god intended apparentlyTo add insult to injury, you can't even mod item stats mid-game either, because the save system is basically a full-blown savestate so it remembers existing item stats rather than reading from the files, fuck.
>>520697To quote the classic:Play stupid mods, win stupid prizes
>>520756Unfortunately it appears all the mods for FT are stupid, which is a goddamn shame since the core game is a bug ridden mess that could benefit greatly from a quality autistic spitshine.
>>520777If you weren't a brainlet, you would use the unofficial patch, but you had to go all way in with a dick into a blender and apply mods instead.If this was JA thread, you would be a nigger pushing for 1.13 as a solution to handful of bugs that can be solved with any given patch, and then spend half hour bitching how bad the changes brough by the mod are.
>>519833>>520138Pretending to be retarded is the lowest form of trolling
>>520787>unofficial patchUnless it is hidden in the deepest asscrack of some member-only section of NMA, there doesn't appear to be such a thing.
>>520819You've kinda answered yourself where to search.It used to be more readily available, but the game is almost 20 yo and not particularly popular, so go fucking figure.
>>520787>If this was JA thread, you would be a nigger pushing for 1.13 as a solution to handful of bugs that can be solved with any given patch, and then spend half hour bitching how bad the changes brough by the mod are. Weird, I remember how the v1.13 mod pretty much made the basegame obsolete when it was relatively fresh - are there some better options to enjoy JA2 nowadays after beating the main campaign which are not derived from the v1.13 patch-mod?
>>521147It's called stracciatella and it's basically unofficial patch fixing bunch of bugs and upping resolution to slightly more modern standards. You know, patching things up, instead of trying to reinvent the wheel. 1.13 is pure cancer for almost a decade at this point.