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HELLO /vst/
i am an elite skirmisher, the most worthless unit in AOE2. why i am i worthless? because the absolute dogshit AI in this game makes me attack the closest unit, instead of the archers i am supposed to be fighting. also, the dogshit AI means that enemy archers wont be attacking me since i am in the back and not in the front.

therefore the bonus damage against archers is worthless.
therefore the bonus armor against archers is worthless.

I, the elite skirmisher, am a fundamentally flawed unit.
of course all units in AOE2 are fundamentally flawed to the point of worthlessness. so that is par for the course in this broken retarded game.
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>>401631
>I can't micro
Thanks for sharing, OP.
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This fucking retard again.
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Funnily enough skirmishers IRL wouldn't fight archers.
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>>401631
dude just right click
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Why would spear throwing skirmishers be an anti-archer unit? What were they thinking...
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>play campaign instead of skirmish
>never build them
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>>401631
>research chemistry
>flaming javelins
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>>401728
>>401640
>tfw no Cossacks-like ancient RTS focused more on large military formations and battles
I want my Peltasts, damn it.
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>>401631
gitguud
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>>401631
you know they get bonus damage against halbs too right?
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this got me thinking, how hard would it be to script some order of preference for unit's targets? like, including an option for units to target closest or "more appropriate" targets, like skirms targeting archers, pikes cavalry etc. Would that break the game's mechanic somehow?
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>>401937
>Would that break the game's mechanic somehow?
yes
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>>401942
howso?
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>>401945
>AUTO EVERYTHING
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>>401948
>micro everything
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>>401955
Yes.
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>>401755
>Medieval flaming projectiles at all
>Ever
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>>401780
Oh, i have good news for you anon
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>>401956
Micros are for bugmen.
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>>401631
>too low IQ to micro
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>>401981
>t. 20 apm
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>>402012
t.gookclick
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>>401937
not hard.
COH1 and COH2 have them. and they work.
but relic does not make broken products like microsoft does.

>>401633
>>I can't micro
dumbfuck, microed archers beat microed skirms. because the game is broken. you fucking elo 800 faggot.
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>>402024
>but lelic does not make broken products
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>>402024
>but relic does not make broken products
anon, i...
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>>401631
t. seething archer/crossbow cuck
elite skirms fucking demolish archer cucks
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>>401972
>Medieval flaming projectiles
>always based
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>>402050
>A SINGLE UNUPGRADED KNIGHT ENTERS THE BATTLE
honestly the number one problem with AOE2 is the fact that you morons are too fucking stupid, too fucking bad, or too fucked by stockholm syndrome to realize its failure.

i see your posts on different forums, and i can say with 100% certainty that aoe2s community is 95% dogshit morons.
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>skirms
>knights
>mangonels
just make more archers lmao, works on my machine
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>>401631
Lithuanians, Vietnamese, Aztecs and Mayans say hi
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>>402151
>Going pure skirm
>Not adding in knights yourself
Crossbow cuck has to run away when he realizes he can't fight both at the same time
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>>402151
>everyone stupid
>me smart
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>>402217
yes.
when i see you faggots posting on other forums, note how fucking dumb your opinions are, and then look at your ELO and see that you have played ZERO ranked matches or are ELO 900 yes, i am objectively better than you.
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>>402222
t. under 1200
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>>402222
>objectively better than you.
>plays skirms in 1v1s
not even quads can save your dumb ass opinion
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>>402236
In most cases skirms are more viable in 1v1 than team games, in team games you can count on there being enough knights to slaughter skrims
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>>402236
>say skirms are bad
>anon claims i am wrong and bad because skirms are bad and shouldnt be used
well done anon.
that is some multidimensional schizophrenic logic you got there.
you really are reaffirming the IQ of the aoe2 community.
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>>402246
where did i say skirms are bad? My point is you cant rely on skirms to win. And you're too stupid to mix with other units like pikes or monks.
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>>402151
if you ever play against non-meso civs and don't add 1~3 spearmen (and more depending the situation) just in case the enemy makes any scouts/knights, you're an absolute fool
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>>402257
You can't rely on pure knights to win, unless you are Franks
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Lmao love when 800 elos give their take on the game like they solved it
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lol, who needs units. Just build castles and make peasants attack the remaining battering rams
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>>402454
>200 pop Flemish Militia
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>>402024
>but lelic does not make broken products
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>>402024
>microed archers beat microed skirms
LMFAO yo this nigga can't micro for SHIT
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>>401980
not that anon but YEAH BOI
I wonder why it is SO unknown
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>>401631
>select skirmisher
>right click archer

gookclick indeed
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>>402024
>relic does not make broken products
>archers counter skirms

its too obvious if you go full out with bait.
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>>402504
Archers have a faster rate of fire and less frame delay, so they in fact are easier to micro.
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>>402838
Retard
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Damn English let me destroy you in the Hook and Cod Wars, if you build another fucking dock I'm gonna lose it.
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>>402736
>miss the archer
>skirmishes runs into swordsmen
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>>402950
>miss
git gut m8
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>>401640
my dad is a skirmisher and he says he fights archers all the time
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>>402950
>miss the archer
aim better you seething shitter
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>>402913
Just land your troops on their face and grab that achievement.
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>>402913
Just land them, push their navy early, push with some rams, land a castle and build your farm eco there
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I wonder if anybody here does 1vs1's, looks like people just bitch without playing the game.
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>>404107
1v1 is literally the most boring game mode.
Aoe has always been best when playing 4v4 with friends at a lan party
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>>404107
Most just love to bitch because they are autistic. Welcome to /vst/ Autist bitching about non autists for not being autist.
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>>404172
Dumb autist
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>>404172
At this point I'm willing to believe most of people here that play singleplayer only are more autistic than people that play multiplayer.
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>>404107
>>404172
>>404187
>perfectly fine aoe thread
>mp fags enter thread
>LOLOLO WHY IS NO ONE PLAYING RANKED????????
>people tell them to fuck off
>OMG BUNCH OF RETARDED AUTISTS LMAO

every
single
thread
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>>404107
>muh 1v1
kys
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>>404252
>>OMG BUNCH OF RETARDED AUTISTS LMAO
Unironically yes.
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>>404107
I play 1v1s
I have 1100 ranking
I also build skirms.
They're a trash unit, you should always mix in a trash unit with your gold unit. Skirms against archers, spears against cav, light cav against low apm shitters. Yeah you're not gonna win with trash unless you're goths, but that's not the point anyway. They're cost efficient.
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>>402838
>it is easier therefore they win every time

filtered by skirm micro
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>>401631
/vst/ tourney stream https://www.twitch.tv/samuraigustav
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>>401631
I am ze Teuton Knight
I am ze best poster on zis board
I am better zan the poster above and ze poster below combined
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>>407722
Dubdubs confirm.
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Hosting a game now
6/8 if anyone wants to come in
Game name: vm
Password: vee
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>>401631
>i can't micro
>it must be because the ai is dogshit
Kek
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>>407978
Rehosting with 7/8 if anyone glances at this and wants in
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>>408023
Get in here, we need ONE more guy, and you're it. You know who you are.
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>be me
>browsing reddit
>que for quick play
>I get matched on a non-Arena map
>close the game and restart until I get arena
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>>407722
the sword is hella-big
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>>401631
What is my purpose in life?
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>>408460
To make Teuton Knights move faster.
But seriously what was the point in removing the Siege Tower attack
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>>408460
To harass boomfags in arena
No, seriously, thats pretty much it
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>>408477
but you can only buy them in Castle Age?
At that point the boomers already got what they wanted
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>>408487
>At that point the boomers already got what they wanted
Not necessarily true, yes they got an economy up in feudal but ideally everyone doing a strong boom will have 3-5 TCs creating more villagers, just scatter a bunch of crossbows or land longsword, that will greatly disrupt their plans
It is out of the way, but it can work
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>>407722
he's so hot
I wish he would stuff that cape into my uterus and yank it out like he's starting a lawnmower
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>>408477
This.
I had a friend who went FC into Boom and got fucked by the opponent who used the siege tower to dump all his huscarls into his base.
Thing is, no one ever uses it, so no one ever expects it when it's coming.
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>boomfags
>boomers
>FC into Boom
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>>408859
Learn the game lingo
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>>408859
>browses /vst/
>doesn't know what boom means
The term doesn't even originate from strategy games. If you didn't waste your time watching corporate-sponsored women pretending to be anime girls, you might actually know something
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>>408487
If a boomer goes fast castle into 3 Town Centers, an opponent who goes fast castle into Siege Tower + military will win ez

still prefer petards though, 2 of them will destroy a gate instantly and permanently
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>>408859
Ignore the autists, it's just another word for macro.
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>wahhh the game doesn't micro units for me
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>>408487
The boom only starts after they get multiple TCs down, so castle age is the start of the boom, not the end. If you have a comparable FC time to theirs you can easily hit them hard while they have zero military.
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Bi God’s bons, hwat didest thou seien of min, thou litel cunte? Thou shalt knouen ich was gradūāten best in min classe in soldierie, and ich was in mani-fold skekeries on the Frenshe men, and I hawe more than thre hundred slaghs that ben verried. Ich am expertful in mancowe militaunce, and ich am the best longe-boue archer in all the Englisch hoste.
Thou are nout to min but a newe marke. Ich wille thee sottili renden, semble-wise was neverte beholden; par fei!
Thou think thou canst afforthe to speken that shite ouer the “Internet”? Think-agen, churl!
as we speken nou, ich am spēking wit minen aspīeris in all of Engellonde, and thin estre bith spīen aboute noue, thus thou shalt fore-dighten before the storm, maddok!
The storm that wille shenden that spītǒus frivōl thou namest “thine lif”. Thou art ded, childe. Ich can ben ought-wher, ought-tym, and ich can slen thou with ouer seven hundred methodes, and all bar-handed!
Ich am not only expertful in bar-handed baratri, but ich haue infare to the pleine armurie of the host of engelonde, and ich wille emploien hit for slen thine spitous arse, mandrake mymmerkin.
If only thou cǒuthest hauen knouen what unblessed pūnīciǒun thine littel “gleu” glose was about to cause, parchaunce thou hauen holden thine tǒng stille.
But thou cǒuthest nout, thou didest nout, and now thou paien for hit, thou simpleton. Ich wille casten oute furour upon thee, and thou wille senchen in hit. Thou art utterly ded, mannikin.
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>>408878
>>408907
literally never used outside of AoE
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>>409209
So?
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>>408931
Which reminds me, one day I should pull an arena team game in which I get multiple slavic siege towers to land a lot of gothic longswords in the enemy base
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>>409209
You are literally wrong
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>>401631
I've never played AoE2 because I'm poor and can't affort it, but what's stopping you from manually attacking the archers?
Like, just double click the unit to select all of the units of that type, and right click on the archers.
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>>408916
No lol those are different things.
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>>409583
https://1337x.to/torrent/4754566/Age-of-Empires-II-Definitive-Edition-Build-44725-2-DLCs-MULTi16-FitGirl-Repack-Selective-Download-from-7-1-GB/
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>>409595
Is the game worth playing without multiplayer?
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>>409598
yeah the campaigns can be lots of fun and if you do like them there's a shitload of content after all the expansions
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>>409599
Alright, I'll try it out.
Thanks, Anon.
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>>409583
>I'm poor and can't afford a $10 game
anon, your wagie reps
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>>409583
Pretty sure DE will be on sale soon, its will be like ten bucks for twenty years of content, you can't be that poor
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>>409643
If it's on sale, sure.
Is there any specific date?
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>>409583
>what's stopping you from manually attacking the archers?
OP’s apm
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>>409856
If they are dancing around not fighting I go to his villagers to force him to fight
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>>401633
>/thread
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>>401948
Patrol is already autofight.
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>>408460
>FC with bulgang in arena
>transport freely upgraded longdongs over walls with towers
>follow up with vils and drop kreposts
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>>410132
how is that better than two petards
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>>410183
He wont need to get a castle
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>>403023
yeah well my dad is a hussar and he says he could kick your dad's ass
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>>402151
>gets his whole army countered by a single pala
>has the NERVES to call other people stupid
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a tier list of unique units me and my friend made
no bulli
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>>410255
i hate you terribly
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>>410255
This is why I keep saying to hardcorefags here not to underestimate how bad casual players can be.
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>>410255
Please tell me this is a joke
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>>410255
>tfw playing Malay and dumping 15-30 karambits after a forward castle drop
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>>410255
Half of this is okay, the other half is laugh out loud bad
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>>401631
>fundamentally flawed
He is cheap
He costs no gold
You can build gorillions of them
Fuck off noob
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>>410401
Et tu, fatslob?
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>>410255
>Elephant Archer
>A
Uh huh. Enjoy your (you).
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>>410281
>>410381
>>410385
>>410388
>>410395
>>410420
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>>410255
>genoese xbow
>F tier
and here I was thinking they were overrated on /vst/
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>>410255
Most unique units are at least decent just far more situational. There are a few who are almost always good and replace the main line generally of their equivalent and there are a few who are just bad like elephant archers
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>>410255
>Arambai, Conq, Kamayuk, Kipchak, Organ Gun, Slinger in D tier
>Elephant archer in A tier
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>>410518
Conq, Arambai, and Kipchak are fucking dogshit after their nerf.
Organ Guns and Slingers are fucking gay and I have never seen them used.
Kamayuk are very situational, but thats just more of a case of Incas being shit.
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>>410537
>Arambai
>nerf
you are blackest retard gorilla I have ever seen
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>>410539
The nerf from around last Decemberish still lingers.
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>>410540
>literally reverted
lmao
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>>410546
Not entirely. While the fire rate was changed back to 2.0, the lowered damage still makes them weaker to snipe villagers with.
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>>410537
Kamyuks are very solid as both anti cav and champion replacement
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>>410552
>lowered damage
they actualy got a buff, since most of their dps is from missed shots
and don't even try to villsnipe with them, they cant hit shit even with ballistics
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>>410560
Useful when you are both blobbing but their building damage was reduced
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>>410537
>Conq, Arambai, and Kipchak
All of these are top 5 units. Are you bad or something?
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>>410574
Bad players can't into micro so they think skill intensive units are bad for everyone, not just them
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>>410255
if any civ could replace their unique unit with any other, what would be the most retarded combos?
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>>410694
any bracer/thumb ring civ like the bulgars getting arambai would stomp everything
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>>401631
how do i get better at this game? i have fun in skirmishes but i tried playing online now and everybody i come up against is already in imperial age while i'm still feudal age/early castle age. how the fuck are they all so fast and is there a way to find players that just want to play relaxed?
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>>410710
>how do i get better at this game?
play more, learn beter builds, find your weaknesses and work on them
buildorderreference.com
>a way to find players that just want to play relaxed
play ranked games only, on ELO low enough you start encountering literally baindead people playing only with mouse
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>>410718
>literally baindead people playing only with mouse
hey, that's me. but what is the fun in just referring to a build order? is that why everybody is so fast, because they just look up the most effective way to play online?
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>>410722
You sweet summer child
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>>410722
build orders are literally the most basic shit that you should learn day on 1
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>>410729
nice “strategy“ game then, when it's just who can execute some meta strategy the fastest
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>>410734
>t. bad
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>>410736
didn't say otherwise, but i' just going to stick to singleplayer, looking up build orders and stuff like that is like looking up the solution to a puzzle game
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>>410748
is this your first RTS game? You can execute your build perfectly and still get raped by someone who reads the game better. As I said, learning the builds is just the start, a "I'm not playing fucking horrible" level.
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>>410694
Khmer War Elephants
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>>410574
1200
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>>410694
turkish kipchaks with bracer and substantially more survivability
>>410701
arambai aren’t affected by any archer upgrades besides armor
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>>410722
it’s like learning chess openings, you can’t win the game solely on those but there’s so much knowledge on the table it’s hard not to take advantage of it
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>>410734
That is literally every RTS online ever.
Strategy has no place in online RTS gameplay. It's just "memorize the most op strat and execute it faster than your opponent"
Of course the tourneyfags don't want to accept that and will tell you it's all "skill".

>mfw tourneyfags claim online rts takes skill and isn't just ROTE learning and button mashing
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>>411013
What abou Single Player
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>>411013
>t. never won a single game
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>>410734
clearly you havent heard of Hoang485
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>>411013
Why casuals have to apply this mentally gymnastic every time in order to cope?
It's pretty sad really
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>>408495
Thank you for the laugh
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>>411013
this
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>>411013
>>412576
The online tournament heroes 3 scene is even more pathetic, since no only is it about executing the best meta, but the game is turn-based, so literally the only skill that you need is memorisation. Thing is, the game wasnt even made for competitive play, and so, the factions are very unbalanced, but tourneyfags, instead of accepting this, they just straight up ban most things from tournaments.
Are competitive heroes 3 players the very definition of people that dont know how to have fun?
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>>412599
desu fampai homm is just a shit multiplayer game, it's only fun because you and your bros are all under influence and you're waiting for the pizza guy to show up
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>>404159
Based snekerino having a timestamp.
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>>401631

>be inna game
>opponent is Viet
>imma go Tiananmen Square on this gook
>suddenly, get raided by archers
>ohshitwhatdoido.jpeg
>have an archery range up, could spam skirmishes to repel
>suddenly remember faggotOP's advice
>decide against it, counter with scouts, who get slaughtered
>late game happens
>this time totally gonna go Hiroshima on his ass
>spams Rattan and arbalests, and rams
>again remember faggotOP's advice
>don't use elite skirts, use archer line instead
>lose the game
>at least I listened to that faggot's advice
>mfw
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>>410694
Garland Wars huskarls would be a fucking nightmare
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>tfw the scrnario editor still uses the old wall placement instead of the new one
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>>413163
>be animefag
>make horrific post

many such cases!
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>>401631
Seething
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>>410255
I honest to god hope you're just fishing for (You)'s
Because fuck son, especially the Cataphract in C, and the Arambai, Conquistador and Kipchack in D
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>>413885
I love the cataphract but the full upgrades for them just dont justify the cost. They are a go to in Arena for me though.
Looking back on it, Arambai earn a B.
Conqs are shit now and fall to CA counters now in DE
Kipchack is the worst CA varient, and the HP is just too damn low. Diving under TCs and god forbid castles is almost near imposible now.
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>>410255
wtf is this
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>>411092
>watch hoang stream
>go to bed
>wake up in sweats when garbage truck arrives because the sound triggered a dream of rams rolling down the street towards your house
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when people do m@a rush, why don't they keep spamming m@a after the first 3?
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>>415011
>when people do m@a rush
Because it works, a good early MAA rush can do a lot of damage
>why don't they keep spamming m@a after the first 3?
Because once archers are out MAAs become almost useless, with maybe the exception of celtic MAAs.
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>>414044
>Conqs are shit now and fall to CA counters now in DE
>Kipchack is the worst CA varient, and the HP is just too damn low. Diving under TCs and god forbid castles is almost near imposible now
Lmao pls be a troll. You cant actually be this bad.
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>>415032
why not follow up m@a with skirms then?
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>>415087
Because they will still get shoot down by archers, might as well go scouts and skirms.
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DON'T PLAY BURGUNDIANS AND USE HAND CANNONEER
WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE
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>>415087
You'd usually only commit to full Feudal skirms if you want to go Knights as your gold unit in Castle Age. As >>415101 says, scouts into skirms accomplishes this more smoothly.

MaA -> Skirms -> Knights is fine though if you have your eco transitions sorted.
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>>414044
You're not meant to dive Castles and Town Centers with your glass cannon units mate
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where is burgundia
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>>415139
East of France, West to Germany
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>>415135
what if i want to go longswords in castle
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>>415139
west of switzerland. It's closer to central france than it is to germany.
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>>412576

pretty sure this is more of an indictment of smash players than competitive ones, though as every adjacent gaming community hates them
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>>415205
you will probably lose unless you do it in response to your opponent going eagles
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errr so i just closed aoe2 but I can still hear the menu sounds? is this normal?
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>>415205
You will get fucked by knights, crossbows and/or cavalry archers
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>>415135
A neat thing Burmese can do is afford horse collar after man at arms because they already got bit axe
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>>415611
Bulgarians and Ethiopians can do this as well. Franks technically as well.
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>>415663
Franks are still better off going scouts, because 56 HP gives them more damage potential
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>>415676
It's 54, and while I agree that Scouts are way better in most situations, there is still merit in going Man at Arms Archers with certain maps/matchups.
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*ring ring*
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>>415706
*picks Aztecs*
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>>415706
com fy
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>>415322
it knows how stressed you are and wishes to calm you with the relaxing and familiar sounds of aoe2
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>>415706
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>>415706
Arena is surprinsingly fine being how aggressive it can get
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>>415706
>oh no i forgot to ban arena *insta resigns*
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>>415706
haha fast imp go brrrrr
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>>409583
Nigger it's probably one of the most pirated games of all time next to CS 1.6 and GTA San Andreas, how in the fuck did you never play it?
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>>416800
>Fast imp
That will get you killed, most of the times
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>>409729
china new year, it's already started
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>>415706
>spanish FC into conqs here we goooooo
and remember kids, never make too many conqs or you'll regret it
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>>416853
but that one time in ten is absolutely worth it
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>>415004
>>411092
Can somebody explain Hoang meme to me?
Did the guy climb to 2k+ elo with sheer Celt's FC into siege rush or what?
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Sicilian tech tree is kinda eh if you don't wanna go into Donjons and Serjeants. What would be a good strat to try with them, scouts? They could also do a mediocre archer rush I guess, they do get arbs later.
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>>417259
I guess.
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>>417368
>Land military units absorb 50% of all incoming bonus damage
jesus christ
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>decide to play more multiplayer games instead of the usual random map because I want to git gud
>2 noob games, both lost
Why the fuck do I even bother anymore
>dude just watch *video that covers the same fast feudal/raid bullshit over and over again*
I already know that shit and I'm getting used to raiding and countering them, yet I still get my ass kicked in almost every unranked game I play
What the fuck do I do wrong?
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>>417939
>What the fuck do I do wrong?
Not practicing enough, you will lose 25 times until you get your first. Keep practicing, practicing, and practicing, you will never get good if you never try, never play.
Also you must realize loses are meaingless, ELO doesnt mean shit at lower levels, the only thing that you lose on defeat is your pride, nothing else.
Dont let loses affect you, it's just a game, afterall. Mentally steel yourself for it.
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>>417939
>unranked game
here's your problem, there is no reason to play unranked
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>>401640
The AoE series is notoriously non 'historically accurate', at least for the first two games (didn't really play 3 much).
my favourite is all the bonuses to civs in aoe1.. like what makes them think Assyrian villagers should be faster? and why should minoans get +1 to composite bowman range (in b4 crete archers). lastly why do they have 'the greeks' but also macedonia? .. why not have athens, sparta etc?
anyway AoE 1 and 2 are great games online non the less.
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>>410694
Teuton huskarls. Full armour upgrades and +2 armour from civ, that would be 6/12 armour infantry unit.
Arambai for tartars(assuming thumb ring works on them).
There are probably some other options(portuguese conqs/jannies?) but I can't be bothered to think of them right now.

It's better to think of memes like Goth karambits but anarchy still lets you make them in barracks.
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>>418318
>(assuming thumb ring works on them).
It doesnt as far as I know
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>>418318
>>418476
Also it is tatars not tartars.
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>>418202
>didn't really play 3 much
AOE3 is arguably worse since they simplify the armor system and classify everything into Heavy Infantry/Light Infantry/Heavy Cavalry/Light Cavalry/Artillery.
Ranged elephants for example is classified as Light Cavalry thus Skirmishers' shot got bonus damage against them, but Musketeers shot only deals normal damage thanks to this system. It's simply doesn't make sense and every unit ended up feels like AOE2 Skirmishers.
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Daut vs Viper playing the BO7 Arena final
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>>418797
>Viper and Daut both research masonry

Did they finally think about their min-maxing bullshit and realised this is a good upgrade?
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>>418674
>AOE3 is arguably worse since they simplify the armor system
The simplification makes sense because there are so many factors there that a simple damage bonus just works better than trying to make some kind of armor/weapon class system. Like, skirmishers/jaegers being good against line infantry had to do not only with the equipment, but also the way they fought.

I could argue that AoE3 is better since the unit counters are closer to what they were historically.
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>>418843
>closer to what they were historically
absolutely doesn't matter when it comes to game design
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>>418850
Sure, but I don't think there's anything wrong with aoe3 units game design.
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>>401972
>What is Greek Fire
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>>418823
Always has been a good upgrade, most useful in a treb war, on Arabia, you want your army and upgrades first, maybe even wood 3 before masonry
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>>417338
More or less, although these days he diversified his civchoice, sometimes uses khmer, saracens or I believe spanish instead of celts.

There's also a guy who got to 2k with incaboxing. Forgot his nick
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>>412576
Competitive scene of AoE 2 is actually very nice IMHO, most top players are total bros.
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>>417368
Scouts into knights every time or 4tc boom into first Crusade
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>>417939
if you play unranked you are playing with smurfs essentially
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>>418202
>like what makes them think Assyrian villagers should be faster?
fear
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>>418853
There is one thing wrong though. The counter mechanics is applied with arbitrary bonus damage instead of unit characteristics. This is kinda unintuitive because they create 'all bullet is not the same' situation.
If light infantry counters heavy infantry, they should've make them run faster, reload faster, and more accurate just like how it works IRL, not by giving them arbitrary bonus damage. This is precisely how it works with Arbalester vs generic Champion situation, which is imo is more intuitive.
Anyway light infantry vs heavy infantry is not the main problem with this mechanics, it was heavy infantry vs heavy/melee cavalry. You'd think that Rodelero and Tomahawk wouldn't counter Hussars because they wield short swords and axes, until you ram them and realize that they melt horses.
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>>419335
You can't just say shit like that when AoE2 has stuff like pikemen doing over 5 times their normal damage against cavalry. Both games are build on artificial modifiers upon artificial modiifers.
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>>419502
Yeah but the bonuses and unit visual clarity are fairly simple. There are like 3 types of basic cannons with not a significant difference in aoe3
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>>419502
My point is not that bonus damage is inherently bad. Those modifiers are fine if they implement them intuitively. You don't need to check statspage or guides to know that pikemen stop and kill cavalry with their polearms. Meanwhile skirms bullet deals more damage to musketeers but not vice versa may confuse some players because they are both infantry with similar looking guns. Don't get me started with heavy cavalry resists infantry's guns but not light cavalry's guns.
Also as I imply in that post the implementation of light infantry vs heavy infantry is not that bad since at least it has some basis IRL. But what's the logic behind an infantry with a short sword and a round shield could melt cavalry?
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>>419549
I wouldnt say that dude in a fursuit being immune to arrows is an intuitive design either
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>>419552
Well yeah nobody here defending AOE2 skirms.
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>>419335
AoE3 is not worse than SC2 when it comes to arbitrary bonuses.
Anyway, if you want a game with 0 (zero) multiplier and a complex roster of units, you only have Zero K.
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>>418318
the +2 armor from civ wouldn't work on the Huskarls because it's for barracks and stables units only, it doesn't even affect the Teutonic Knight
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>>419111
>There's also a guy who got to 2k with incaboxing. Forgot his nick
Salicum
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>>410255
>Elephant Archer
>A tier
c'mon son
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>>410559
Kamayuks fuck literally every unit in the game in the ass if you get them to 40~60 (equal numbers), except MAYBE for slingers and cataphracts
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>>410255
>Donjon higher tier than Krepost
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>>420248
Kamayuks strength is in stacking, if they aren't all in the same spot then they aren't amazing, and if they are stacking then time to research onager
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>>415706
AHHHHHH I'M BOOMING
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Noob question here. You might wanna help me:
If a shit ton of villagers just killed all sheep or picked all berries, what is the fastest way to get everyone plowing fields?
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>>420318
Put all into wood and then spam farms, or put everyone into gold and buy yourself the next age up
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>>420318
by building farms? what kind of question is this.
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>>410694
Gothic Teutonic Knights
Ethiopian Longbowmen
Berberian Mameluks
Goth Beserkerkers maybe
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based unit compositions per civ

Britons - longbows
Byzantines - skirms/pikes + camel/cata
Celts - pikes + mangos/scorps
Chinese - don't play chinks.
Franks - knights
Goths - huskarls
Japanese - pikes + samurai/archers
Mongols - light cav + mangudai
Persians - war elephants/knights + archers
Saracens - camels/mamelukes + archers
Teutons - knights + mangos
Turks - lightcav + jannies
Vikings - champs/berserks + archers
Aztecs - eagles + monks
Huns - cav archers + knights/tarkans/hussar
Koreans - war wagons
Mayans - plumes + eagles
Spanish - conqs
Incas - vills + towers
Indians - camels + handcannons
Italians - archers/genoese crossbow + hussars
Magyars - cav archers + huszar
Slavs - scorpians + pikeman
Berber - camels + camel archers
Ethiopeans - archers
Malians - champs
Portuguese - knights + archers
Burmese - arambai
Khmer - scorps
Malay - elephants
Vietnamese - archers
Bulgarians - champs
Cumans - kipchak + steppe lancer
Lithuanians - knights + skirmishers/pikes
Tatars - cav archer + hussar
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>>420393
>Berberian Mameluks
They would suck tho.
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>>420393
>teutonic knights with even less pierce armor
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>>420391
I meant completely on micron level.
Do I just Klick on every single one and farm, or is there a trick how I can fasten things up?
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>>420715
pull them one by one from the last sheep as soon as you hit wood for farms, later rally your TC on straggler trees and do the same
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>>420715
early in the game you just do it one by one. Late game with a million things going on, select 5 or so villagers and shift build a mill and spam farms around it.
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>>420715
Hold down shift and place them with farm hotkey. Then right click one. After the first one is built they will fan out to 1 farm each.
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>>420318
cntrl build farms, and you need to transition more to wood going to feudal so you can keep making farms
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>>420752
Oh, that is good. Just what I wanted.
Thank you.
>>420771
I play Teutons. I never have problems making farms.
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>>410722
find like-minded people to play ~3 hour games with peace treaty or something, if you want to get into matchmaking you'll have to learn the ropes

I know that if you're starting then it'll seem intimidating how quickly enemies will do things, but knowing how to do that stuff is like learning to perform basic combos in a fighting game, you have to learn them and perform them consistently enough, but the actual game isn't that, it's everything around that

>>420411
>Bulgarians - champs
Bulgarians don't even have champions, my dude
>Slavs - scorpians + pikeman
I see you haven't seen the basedness of Boyar+Scorpions yet
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>>420797
i just used "champs" for militia line. I wanted to put boyar + scorps but i worry about the gold cost.
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>>420822
in Arabia there's enough gold to do both, and if you pull it off properly you'll probably win before gold runs out
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Boar behind forest: Ignore or go the extra mile to lure it?
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>>420842
steal the enemy's boar
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>>420842
Take loom while getting the boar, then fail as loom clicks in after the fourth hit.

Or build house on boar like your life depends on it to prevent a few hits
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>>420550
teutonic knights at a huge discount you mean?
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>>420834
>before gold runs out
thatt's not the main concern
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>>420422
But they would regenerate, good for hnr
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>>420859
Just dies worse to castles and arbs
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>>420861
well, the other concern would be to get gold fast enough, and considering that if you start with the castle+boyar you have an extremely solid defense, I don't see any issues
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>>420862
Being non Saracen it would mean in imperial age, elite mames would have -30 HP compared to Saracen mamelukes, due the Saracen camel bonus and Zealotry.
Yeah sorry dog but 30 HP is too good to pass up, just make 4-6 monks and have them following the mames, also make a fuckton of hussar meatshield.
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>>410694
Sicilian Cataphract
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>>420411
>Cumans - kipchak + steppe lancer
Why would anyone ever build steppe lancers?
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>>422479
they're cool
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>can't keep up with constantly producing vils, late game
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>>422480
So are Petards but I wouldn't use them in an actual game.
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>>422484
>keep up with villager production
>build a huge base and amass tons of resources
>realize i forgot to build any military units
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>>422484
Step 1. Stop being an animefag
Step 2. Profit
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>>422484
>h
>q
It's really that easy.
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>>422479
They raid very well and can hold choke points great. They're also hard to mentally counter because no one ever sees them.
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>>422484
You should be fully boomed by then, defend raids and build up army
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Have only ever played AoE 1 after my dad gave me his game disk some 10 years ago. I'd play a lot of single player, and the occasional campaign, I think I got a third of the way through. I really liked the game but there never any online matches, though I knew I'd get my ass handed to me if I had ever found one.
How different is AoE 2 compared to? Keep in mind I was a dumb teenager with limited Internet knowledge when I was playing it so I know none of the meta and was also generally pretty bad at the game
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>>422604
You still should keep the production after, ever after you attack
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>>422489
Petards have its uses tho.
+7 petards can destroy a castle, make them if you plan to do a castle age ram push to instantly destroy a castle
Also it takes 2 petards to destroy a ram, if you're getting rammed down, use defensive petards to save your castle.
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>>422613
>I was a dumb teenager
You might not be a teenager anymore but you sure as hell are still dumb
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>>422619
>after you attack
you should attack like 5 minutes into the game, anon was telling to stop making villagers after reaching 100
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>>420411
>Ethiopians - archers
Nig nog listen here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFgRfQAE31s
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>>422613
In AOE2 there are bonus damages across the units, unique units, unique techs, civs bonuses, fully narrated historical campaigns, etc
But really, just pirate it, try the single player and see if you like it or not, then jump to multiplayer if you feel you're good enough.
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>>422681
I'm not disputing it, though it does seem a bit uncalled for. What prompted this response, anon?
>>422918
Yeah, I've saved the link to the torrent that another anon posted earlier in the thread, gonna download it when I have some time. From what I've seen in this thread, I don't know if I'd ever go into multiplayer tbqh
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>>415205
>what if i want to go longswords in castle
longswords are probably the worst unit in the game.
they are countered by literally everything except trash.
it is a unit that has no purpose.
because AOE2 is a fundamentally flawed game.
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>>423199
Eagles.
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>>415101
What is the best counter against spearmen?
AI 90% goes pikes/archers
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>>423221
Archers, militia, siege.
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>>423199
One unit is niche so the whole game sucks guys. Shut this thread down.
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>>420237
>Huskarls can be made in the Barracks
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>>420248
Yeah well slingers + kamyuks + something anti archer/ranged is Great. Personally I think incas are a very solid 1v1 and team game civ
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>>421547
Finally. Literally zero anti cavalry damage
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>>423199
>longswords are probably the worst unit in the game.
I mostly agree, though the siege tower is probably even worse

>they are countered by literally everything except trash.
I'd say elite skirms are good against them too, so... yeah

>it is a unit that has no purpose.
it does have some purpose:
>countering eagles (yes, even Persian Longswordsmen can counter Mayan Eagles in Imperial Age)
>if you stacked a bunch of MaAs in feudal for whatever reason
Those are what I could think of

>because AOE2 is a fundamentally flawed game.
now you're being dramatic
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Nothing is more satisfying than watching 30+ Shotels eat a TC in 5 seconds I tell you what.
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>>423221
Skirmishes counter both
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/vst/
>longswords are bad and have no purpose

2500+ players like hera/fair/viper ect playing against other pro players in ranked games
>I think I'll go longswords here
>wins

big think
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>building trash counters at all
Lol just counter archers with archers

>muh cost effective
But it's not time effective, once you counter the enemy unit (if they even manage to do anything at all) you just have a useless piece of shit that will do nothing but take your pop space.
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>>423513
>I'd say elite skirms are good against them too, so... yeah
Elite skirms only deal 2 damage per shot against longswords, so no. You need xbows for that job.
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>>423694
Just delete them.
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>>423679

>I think I'll go longswords here
>wins
Hera in RBW3 was huns vs pikeman and decided to go LS rather than CA because "CA sucked". He got absolute rekt and lost the series.
LS are an awful units because in Castle Age infantry cant force battles because their low speed, and cant raid because low pierce armor. In imperial age is different because most civs get plate mail armor which is crucial to absorb arrows
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I wonder why longswords are bad in a game where the meta revolves around archers or knights.
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>>424687
Archers can endlessly kite longswords to death.
Knights overpower longswords.
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>>401631
Counter units are supposed to be only good against a specific type of unit, they suck vs everything else.
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>>424734
which is why they are fundamentally flawed.
in a game that features combined arms, a unit that only works vs 1 thing is dogshit, and they dont even work against that one thing anyway.
the dumbfuck gold economy somehow justifies this retardation.
"but muh gold units"
is how a dumbass thinks.
the limited gold mechanic is the rotten seed that cascades throughout the entire fucking game, and shits up everything from civ balance, to units balance, to early game vs late game balance, to resource balance, to teams vs 1v1 balance.
it truely is the dumbest shit ever made.
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>>426143
Just go play whatever garbage shit games you like and fuck off. There are plenty of people here who like the game as it is and the fact that the game has survived and grown for over 20 years is testament to it's design.
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>>426143
>the limited gold mechanic is the rotten seed that cascades throughout the entire fucking game, and shits up everything from civ balance, to units balance, to early game vs late game balance, to resource balance, to teams vs 1v1 balance.
What the fuck am I reading

>>424734
>specific type
Skirms is also good against pikemen.
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>>410694
Tarkans would work pretty well for just about any cavalry civ.
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Guys, I have a strategy I want to make work for 1v1s, but the enemy keeps reacting to it in a cheap way.
>Playing Berbers
>Late game
>Get a Bombard cannon
>Make a hole in the side of his base
>Flood Hussars and Genitours
>Leave a detachment of skirms, spears, camel archers, etc.
>Leave a few towers
>Make trade carts
>Send them to enemy market
>After a failed attempt at dislodging my units, he deletes his market and puts it on the other end of his base
How do you counter this?
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>>401740
Naturally. They are elite skirmishers, not elite campaigners.
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don't mind me, i'm just the best fucking unit
i can defeat ANYONE with this fuckers
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>>426305
nothing personnel kid
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>>426305
>Abdominals-shaped armour

Cringe.
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>>426305
>>426515
Lmao really, why is wearing Roman armor and helmet?
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>>401728
>Have a shield to block arrows
>Have a javelin to counter with once I get close enough

Even as a kid this made sense even if in the real world it might not work out that way
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>>426670
>WE WUZ ROMANS
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>>426670
Because the Goths sacked Rome. They stole all their shit.
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>>426852
cool campaign mission ruined by dogshit pathfinding
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>>426228
If you're talking about the market, don't bother. You're should've already winning the game anyway by the time you could slip trade carts unchallenged. Just farm available gold and keep up the army production.
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>>426228
by the time you're ready and able to send trade carts to the enemy market, you should use that gold and wood to finish the game instead

neat but retarded idea
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>>427211
>Waste resources destroying the enemy TC
vs
>Beat him just until he stops attacking your trade carts, then profit.
Choose one.
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>>426228
First you need to build some boats with guns: gunboats. Then you swim to his base and tell him that free trade is your god given right and you will bomb his country to smithereens if he doesn't open up the country.
Always works against the Japanese players.
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>>426305
>Throws Teutonic Knight at you
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>>426305
Ah-hem
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>>427469
Is he wearing a cuman mask
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>>427503
Yes
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>>427510
That mask is very cool I must say
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>>427515
Yeah, I still dont know why the cumans have that mask honestly, like what it's supposed to represent or convey anyways?
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>>427521
I don't know, maybe its history was lost once the cumans had to seek shelter in Hungary from the mongols.
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Post your greatest AoE2 memes.
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>>427557
*clap* *clap* NEXT MEME
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>>427521
superior mustaches, more civilised version of abs armor
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>>427590
I do agree mustaches does makes a civ automatically superior.
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>>427586
Ok here you go.
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>>427599
Lel
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>>427503
Strictly speaking the mask isn't unique to the Cuman peoples, but yes that is their civ "crest" in game.
>>427521
It represents the face of one of their gods I believe. Supposed to bring good luck in battle and such.
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>>427621
I must say the mask looks great
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>>426670
to be historically accurate
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god dammit Hoang plays in 6 hrs more and im just going to sleep
Im going to miss it
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>>401631
>most worthless unit
>anything but fucking petards
What an idiot! Laugh at this guy!
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>>423312
not if the teutons had them you dingus
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>>428384
>Celts ban
Hoang isn't going to win, he can't use his best civ
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>absolute state of hoangfags
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What's the purpose of randomly placed wild wolves and lions again? Just to occasionally kill a unit for content and memes?
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>>429211
To remind you to never wander away from base without loom
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>>429211
To give the Magyars and Berbers a bonus.
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>>429211
To keep you from sending vils all over carelessly.
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>>429223
>>429243
>>429264

jokes on you theres so few wolves/lions nowadays on random maps, might as well not haven them
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>>401972
at least flaming spears are close to what irl fire arrows actually were: burning sticks propelled at very slow speed and very short distance
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I'm making a lobby if anybody cares. I'm bad, but it's a game.
Lobby is /v/DF Deploys
Pass is vee
I'm sure I'll see you all there.
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>>430551
We are at SEVEN dudes, you could make this a royal flush right now. Take this chance, it won't come again.
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>>408027
are you guys still waiting
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you have completed the challenge right guys?
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>>430802
Dude, that was 15 days ago.
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>>430835
>The standard AI will react to your accomplishments in skirmish mode
wdtmbt?
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>>422484
There's no real point in making more than 125 villagers, especially as wood runs out on the map.
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>>430891
Cringe. Top players sometimes go to 160.
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>>431181
yikes, stop playing arena
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>>430835
I just gotta beat the extreme AI and it's done.
Wish me luck guys
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>>430835
how does it react?
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>>431181
>t. Coomans
Many casters said 160 is overboom. 140-150 is the limit, even then you need to delete some of them later on.
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>>430891
Hussar raids
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>>431191
I only play Arabia and make 140 vills minimum. 160 on civs with pop efficient units. Enjoy your weak economy and slow production and I'll enjoy 110 farmers pumping out non stop Paladins.
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>>404107
>>404159
how is 1v1 boring when any team game is composed entirely of archer + knight combos?
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>>431497
*kills you in feudal*
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>>401755
>>401972
>not playing as the Iberian in Atilla
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>>431536
*comes back from the dead and vill rushes you in post imp, gaining 2 ELO for an easy win*

See i can type bullshit in asterisks too
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>>431497
Let's see how your well your 40 Paladins bode against 70-80 Halberds + Hussars/Skirms then.
Here's a tip: I've seen how Viper lose against DauT this way, especially after DauT managed to force him into an early trash war.
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>>431497
You don't need 160 to max produce paladins. You are just restricting your military size at that point.
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>>401945
In high ish level play they use rams as meat shields in archer fights.
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>>430835
I only did up to Hard because I wanted the profile picture. How does the AI react? I thought I already had this because the AI said gg to me the other day instead of the usual "I shall abdicate"
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>map is not arena or socotra
>I altf+f4 and restart
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>>430843
damn that's a long time to wait in a lobby
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>>433323
i only played socotra once and i hated it. he lamed my boar :(
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>>431344
>>432653
just that, its not a big deal
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>>423729
the LSs have terrible movespeed and HP
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>>433460
>go Socotra once
>enemy is Inca
>ohboyherewego
>he lames my elephant, tries to palisade my berries
>then tower rushes
>still loses
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>>433460
It can get much, MUCH worse
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>>402950
Maybe it's not the game, maybe you're just retarded.
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>>410518
I feel too retarded to effectively use organ guns.
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>>433653
The LS could just tank the shots since skirms need 30 shots to kill a LS, while crossbows only need 15 shots. Unless you heavily outnumber your opponent, going for skirms to kill LS is generally a pretty bad idea.
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>>433741
you need:
1. enough organ guns to 1shot everything
2. a healthy sprinkle of halberdiers to catch stray paladins
3. a handful of bombard cannons to snipe enemy siege
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>>410255
I love Geonese crossbows desu, they shred paladinfags in a fancier way than pikemen do
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What monk stuff is worth to research?
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>>434056
redemption
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>>434056
fervor to pick up relics faster
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>>434063
>>434082
What if I want to make a monk push?
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>>434085
redemption
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>>434085
sanctity
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call the cops, I don't give a fuck
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>>434188
based and drushpilled
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>>434188
Persian player typed those words.
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>>434188
PLEASE STOP ATTACKING ME. I JUST WANTED TO PLAY SIM CITY IN A RANKED MATCH
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>>434236
doot doot
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>>433741
Got to micro it kinda like scorpions, down the middle where it is crowded, when you get enough of them everything dies
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>>433919
>Black forest
>>434056
>>434085
Sanctity, redemption, atonement can pay off if he has a lot of monks. In imp block printing and theocracy.
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>>433854
considering LSs will just be walking and dying, it'll take micro and be annoying, but the LSs will won't be able to do shit

that is, as long as you micro, otherwise you're fucked
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>>434350
just nest it and be comfy
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What's the worst map and why is it Black Forest?
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>>434833
>>434188
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>>434833
bog islands sucks dirty ass
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>>434833
Lemme guess, fought fatslob?
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>>434921
>t. clown
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>>434833
Amazon tunnel, arena, team islands, that water migration map
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>>434985
i’m mentally well i just don’t like getting lamed
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>>434833
Kilimanjaro and/or acropolis, playing ranked on those was cancer. There's open maps and then there's maps without any fucking woodlines at all
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>>434833
Water nomad.
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>>434833
Arabia
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>>434921
there is a huge overlap between arena and socotra afficionadosm horseshoe theory
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>>436452
>afficionadosm horseshoe theory
wot
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>>436501
it makes sense
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>>436543
Care to explain?
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>>436545
im not him so no
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>>435390
Atacama is atrocious
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>>435390
Kilimanjaro and acropolis aren't that bad I would also say Atacama is bad. African clearing also feels terrible and antithetical to nomad concept
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>>434833

you just simply cant make a worse map than Water Nomad or Bog Islands man
Kilimanjaro was fucking terrible too
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>>436749
For once Chinese bonus of demo ships is super relevant
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>>410722
Remember to always be creating villagers. Your forum can never be idle. If you need inspiration on where to send villagers. To queue a villager at any point in the game, press H then Q.

Please get a medal in art of war to learn more about the game.
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>axeman F tier
>gbeto F tier
>elephant archer A tier
>conquistador D tier
>arambai D tier
nice bait
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>>433648
Hi Sniper_Wolf
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>>433648
Ah, so it's like what they do in AoE3 but without the hammy accents, just hammy shakespearean.
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>>401631
>dogshit AI in this game makes me attack the closest unit, instead of the archers i am supposed to be fighting
t. never been in a trash war
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>>443606
Elephant Archer needs to be replaced.
I don't know with what, but it does.
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>>447215
elephant onager
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Unironically make it happen. High HP, no min range seige onager that can clear trees

>but that's OP and it never existed in real life
Just make it more expensive lmao and it's not like they never bent the realism before. Injuns never had trebuchets and the chu ko nu wasn't used in war
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>>447344
Meant for >>447240
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>>447215
keep it but remove the guy on top and make the elephant fire arrows out of its trunk
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The Snek did it again
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>>447737
that last game was pretty sick
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>>447344
that would be bad for the elephant's back :(
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>>447795
Indeed mate
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>>401631
Learn to micro. Also archers also attack closest unit. Thats why rams are a good counter
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>>447240
>>447681
based.
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>>447737
what happen?
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>>449459
Beat Hera at the finals of Masters of Socotra
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>>401869
wait wtf really?
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>>410729
thats not true
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>>417939
dork
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>>409209
I sure hope you are ESL to excuse your appalling and laughably small vocabulary.
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>>449755
Oooh, thats why it's called booming! That makes a lot of sense.
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>>449755
ok boomer
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>>449688
archers, cav archers, and skirmishers all get 2 or 3 points of bonus damage against the spearman line
>>449725
they teach you how to fast castle in the art of war tutorial
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>>449770
explain to me where you thought the term boomer came from.
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>>450798
left 4 dead
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>>450849
and why would a generation of people born in the 50's be named after them?
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>>450862
I dunno, ask the ones behind modern memes
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>>436749
DOOD WOT IF BOATS ON LAND ARE YOUR EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED?
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>ban Arena
>pick Fortress
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finally beat moderate ai yesterday after some nice anon gave me advice.

gonna work on confidently beating hard before i go online. struggling as hard as ever... any advice?





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