Instead of arguing about the plotholes in TNO or Kaiserreich removing anything fun for the umpteenth time, let's talk about the most based alternative history mod in existence.Futurists and councilists, national anarchists and Finno-Egyptians, cults and new age beliefs ahoy!
>>285411Red Flood just tries too hard and feels like Teenage Angst, The Mod, The Movie featuring Dante from DMC.
Eia! Eia! Alalà!
>>285420What a meaningless post
>>285442>Ready Set Gothat got me not gonna lie.
So what's the premise of this mod and is it actually out instead of just ENDLESS TOOZE?
>walls of gibberishAre the devs commies themselves?
>>286523the head writer is a tranny
>>286552no, it was previous head writer
>>286523>>286552>>286578Whatever they are it's so ridiculous and far removed from reality it's easy to appreciate it regardless of politics
>>286506>>286506WW1 was even more messy and horrible than OTL - basically no one win. This cause backlash with extreme radicalization of everything, from art to politics, and now everyone is trying to build their own utopias, going on full speed in the future or in the past.
>>285411are there any 'normal' countries in red flood?
>>286814Poland is close to its otl self
>>286814UK has only sane paths, most ones for USA, Italy and Russia are pretty normal. Aside from nazbols Germany is pretty standard commie shit.
>>286814Depends on what constitutes as normal. The moderate countries like US and Britain are normal.If it's radical countries, they have some level of normalcy>Brazil can become a socialist theocracy that advocates for protecting its people>Commie Germany can become pacifist and create the League of Nations uniting every moderate>Mladorossi Russia is just a federalized tsardom with councils for both russians and non-russian natives>Transbaikal can form a democratic Manchurian RepublicMeanwhile, moderate democratic countries can also go mad>Democratic Tuareg has capitalized slavery>Democratic Armenia secretly does state mandated genocide on its minorities>Democratic Zheltorussia is either a corrupted oligarchy or an objectivist Galt's Gulch
>>285421
>>287142Based as fuck
>>285424>using the joker meme unironically in a hoi4 mod
Is there any way to get rid of the russian warlords?
>>287182>unironically
>>286506It is out, it even had an update recently.
I want the peru tree already
>tries Liberia>pick the Garvey nationalists>gets events about a cult appearing>"The Sun Ra Arkestra, a band of improvisational musicians who believe in creating 'Cosmic Music', a highly experimental form of Jazz. They believe that the ancient Egyptians, and their leader, Hermann Poole Blount, have had contact with extraterrestrial beings from Jupiter (and many other planets) and believe that they sent a message to Blount asking him to create music that would bring his spirit to the stars. The rest of the Kemetic Wing strongly follows Kemetic religious tradition and can speak some form of greeting in ancient Egyptian.">Laughed it off>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Ra>it's fucking realWhat the fuck! These weirdos exist irl?!
>>288896>What the fuck! These weirdos exist irl?!That sums up Red Flood in a sentence
has america been fixed yet. granted i havent played for a few months but this is what pretty much all the writing was like mid-augusti mean is this some kind of amazing joke that just goes over my head or what>>288896damn son you didnt know about sun ra hes pretty fucking awesome, got to see him live a few years ago. great show.
>>289529sorry, im stupid, i got to see the ARKESTRA, not sun ra himself.
Yall better praise our Patron Artaud or he's gonna smack a bitch
>>287142I like that it has just "Remove" in the effects. I hope it is deliberate.
I went into the mod's discord to see what kind of people the devs and its fanbase are. With the content being edgy and, god forbid me for using this zoomer term, 'cursed' shit, I was expecting tryhard leftist and libtard trannies like the shitfest that is TNO and the pronouns obsessed Millennial Dusk.Theyre mostly third and fourth positionists/fuck the status quo type of people. Unironic futurists, technocrats, duginists. Doesnt matter what you believe in as long as it involves destroying liberalism and democracy. Even the supposedly trans writer has ultranationalist tendencies.
>>290477Yea Red Flood is basically the antithesis to TNO and ilk, they’re anti-Fukuyamist
>>285411>turns Italy into a Shogunateheh nothing personal
>>290507And TNO is Fukuyamist? I thought commies were against him?
>>290516What about Ukrainian Brazil and Egyptian Finland?
>>290542Yes, explicitlyThey have rules in place against “all forms of extremism” which includes hardcore communistsThe devs may have some slightly more leftist people but overall the majority of the fanbase and the team behind it are hyperlibs who want their blessed democracy Chungus and nothing else
>>290477What's it like in their discord? Do they constantly post 'muh wholesome and cursed' and regurgitate the same jokes over and over again like TNO?
>>285423>Tin Ujević is a possible leaderPFFT HAHAHA BASED
>>290663More or less
>>290663not really, a lot of the time they're shitting on other mods like KR and tno
>>286506it's been out for a year
>>290663Not at all kek
>>290723Good.
>>290727Getting real Pinkie and the Brain feels from this
>>290477uh based?
>>290727You can smell the underage across the ocean
>>290766I’d rather have an underage community than trannies making up every facet of it
While TNO and CBTS devs clamp down on extremism and radical people in their communities, the Red Flood devs parade their obscure radical movements to destroy the old order like a scout's badge.I'd say they're just as messed up as the obscure nutjobs they portrayed in the mod.
>>290791The old order is fucked m8
So the red flood community and devs are made up of radical anti-centrists who would unironically nuke the White House, Jerusalem and UN just to make the world a less boring place? Got it.
>>290807i'm sorry you really think that wouldn't make the world a better, not just more interesting but better, place?
>>290807and what's wrong with that? war is the hygiene of the world.
>>290807>nuking three dens of corruption and vice>badI bet you think that white supremacists are the greatest danger to American™ Freedom™ Democracy™
>>290816The funniest thing is to see the long term fate of all the "war is hygiene" faggots. Talk about a failed ideology.
>>291038t. Libertarian Marxist
>>291046t. ard
Is Evola a country leader in this?What's the wacky version of National Socialism?
>>291241I don't remember Evola but Savitri Devi is in
Wtf is red flood and why does it have accelerationism as an ideology? Based
>>291371It's not like irl's Nick Land accelerationism.Accelerationism in Red Flood is a catch all term for any movements and philosophies that advocate for the destruction of mainstream status-quo and ultravisionary future thinking.Futurists who want to destroy the old system and tradition, National Rejuvenationists who want to revive their culture in a new futuristic direction, Technocrats and other non-standard government systems.
tell me about India
>>291241no
>>291470churchill can go on a gassing of all indians rampagealso he literally has a fucking focus for taking a nap
>>291470>Churchill got into race theory and gas the Indians to show supremacy>If he fucks up, Savitri Devi larping as Kali will lead an antianglo revolution>Russian warlord in charge of Kashmir>Communist Hindustan>The Order of The Star, a fundamentalist cult led by an IRL religious Hitler Indian
Can someone post Poland and Austria focus trees?
>>285420Red Flood is silly, all these crazy states and their bizarre societal transformations are pretty unrealistic, but it's fun to play.Now if you excuse me, I have to go back to living in 2020s America, a nation that is in the process of abolishing the concept of physical sex itself.
The one thing I like about Red Flood is that ideologues get to realize their dreams. People like Marinetti, Howard Scott, Sin Chaeho, Ayn Rand, Kamenev IRL all had their ideas hijacked and stolen.>Sin invented Juche>Hijacked by Kim into commie fest>Luxemburg and Kamenev invented dictatorship of actual proletariats>Hijacked by Lenin as a vanguardist party lip service
>>286814The sanest and most centrist path in this mod is Adolf Hitler.
>>290593And Roman Montenegro
>>290807>unironically nuke the White House, Jerusalem and UNbased based based based
Do any of these meme political trees actually let you do anything interesting, or is it just different coats of paint on the same gameplay as before? I remember checking this mod out a year or so ago, and it would have a few of these trees that basically influenced nothing because anything that made wars happen was just a different separate little part of the tree, completely unchanging regardless of whether I made my france a massive furry fuckfest or mad max: hon hon baguette edition
>>291767After a couple updates they fucking changed everything!>Technocrat USA gets 8 research slots and +90% research speed.>One State gets +120% construction speedI forgot its name but there's one nation that gives your whole army a +200% morale once you finish the whole tree
>>291704OTS are a state run by orthodox theosophists. They're an occult group, ingame their ideology is esoteric reactionary, not fundamentalists. References to nazism or similair strands of thought nowhere to be seen, instead we have a literal magocracy in India.
>>290807And Kremlin too
>>288896Sun Ra is great, possibly the only good example of We Wuz Kangz besides the Black Israelites.
>>291241He isn't, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets added down the line for Fiume. He's in Kaiserredux, though. Closest equivalent to him in Red Flood imo is Escadronist France.
>>291704Don't forget the Thelemea cult
>every wacko featured are actual people and these are their ACTUAL UNIRONIC beliefs>Zamyatin wrote WE after fearing Gastev's Taylorist system to create rhythm clockwork robotic men>Aspa unironically believed Finns were Kangz and wanted to dam St Petersburg>There actually is a group of musicians believing they are space Egyptians>Marinetti unironically wanted to burn down every old buildings in Italy to stop Rome wankers like Mussolini>Bataile irl is just as a degenerate coomer as depicted in RFIs Red Flood a cautionary tale to never give artists power?
>>292613Yes, speaking as an artist. We're all failed totalitarians.
>>292613It might be
>>292613That's what set it apart from TNO. In TNO the supposed 'cursed' people have their viewpoints altered and retconned to fit a narrative. Taboritsky, Kovner, Himmler, theyre all exaggerated or not as close as what they believed in real life. This also irks the Russians as people like Gumilyov were written much more evil than they are in real life.Red Flood's 'cursed' niggas dont need any rewriting at all because these are their actual ideas and beliefs. No changes made except that they finally got to be in power and fulfill their fantasies.
>UK can get so many bonuses they use no civilian factories by mid '38
>>292649>theyre all exaggerated or not as close as what they believed in real life.I dunno, Kovner really did try to massacre whole cities by poisoning water supplies, he's just not well known.
0.3 when
>>292776they say its next year or christmas if we're lucky
>>292786>Assyria
>>292786>churchill's india
>>292786>ManchuriaHoping for Kishi to make an appearance
>>292827you know you wanna...
>>285411So...are all these alternative history mods just fanfics in mod form with walls of text? Is the point of these mods to get to read as much text as possible? Is there word counter akin to VP counter? I sure hope so.
>>293224Would you prefer to just mindlessly go through focus trees with no events at all? RF doesn’t just spit out walls of text either way, any nation with events also has actual content
>>290477>Unironic futurists, technocrats, duginists. Doesnt matter what you believe in as long as it involves destroying liberalism and democracyInteresting. I must visit this place.
>>293224If you don't like HOI4's mediocre gameplay don't play HOI4 mods. The mods are only good insofar as they add creativity and, most importantly, flavour. 50 world news events are more important than 3 focus trees filled with +0.10% stability buffs.
>>290766t.Pacifica
Is this mod 4chan approved unlike TNO?
someone post a map of this shitseems shitty from what I've seen here
>>293529Yes
>>292786Hello, Skeletor
>>293529>a world where every LARPer's fantasies are potentially on the verge of coming trueYes it's 4chan approved.
Since this is the hoi4 modding threadHow do I go about making a custom mapI've seen the MapGen way but that doesn't look effective.Is there another way or is it only that?
>>295211Not really. You not only need to use the MapGen but also use very buggy dev tools to make the finished map actually usable.It is the main reason why there are not so many mods with custom maps.
>>292613"There is a reason why music is a multi billion dollar industry while artists are stuck doing furry porn."
>>295428Pop music is such bland, mass produced tripe indeed.
>that portrait for the belgian army remnants>Prussian Congo>Hüttig focus tree Icons
This thread is TOO SLOWit needs to go FASTER
>only 18k subscribers on Steam workshopThe unenlightened masses, they cannot make the judgement call - and their tastes are shit.
>>292786What is this exactly? A progress report for the next version?
>>296618Contents for the next update
>>292786>le Russian warlord collapse is this the new meme?
>>286814I think there's a chance for the USA to stay normal.
>>296693Next update adds in Anarcho Syndicalist IWW USA. If the player fucks up, well
>>290807fuck yeah. Rather have that than living in this boring ass neo-liberal hell hole.
>>293529Basically the certified 4chan timeline.
Some miscellaneous lore>Canada badly managed the Winnipeg Strike, increasing union popularity. Emma Goldman stayed in Canada and can turn Canada anarchist>The American Hippo Bill (H.R. 23261) was passed and hippos were allowed to roam and breed across the southern bayou. The population boomed exponentially and caused massive damages to civilians and wildlife. An alpha male hippo got the opportunity to stampede and kill a certain Lousiana senator>Because the Russians won the Russo-Jap War and annexed Manchuria, Harbin became an economic hub and there was no need to found Magadan. However in a bid to attract investors, the warlord state of Yakutia founded a planned city in the far North to attract foreign trade and political leverage among Russians, Anglos, or Japanese>There are 3 different Jewish states. Ultranationalist Israel in Jerusalem, Beta Israel in Ethiopia, and the Fugu Plan's Yudayakuo>Mussolini's march was an utter failure after his Blackshirts were stopped by socialists. Mussolini fled to San Marino and became the equivalent of Trotsky>As Lenin only became relevant in Germany as an expat, other Russian leftist movements like Trotskyism, Narodism, various fringe Left-SRs became more popular in Russia>The Belgian Kongo was at one point converted into a mass penal colony. Among the Belgians stuck in the Kongo, there is a paramilitary group of criminals called the Force Publique who aims to destroy every remnants of civilization
>>296675It’s because Russia got fucked in a much longer and bloodier WW1, there’s no Tsar due to Nicky getting killed and Alexei bleeding out, so various generals seized land and only de jure swear allegiance to Moscow while de facto being mostly autonomous
>>296750>>There are 3 different Jewish states. Ultranationalist Israel in Jerusalem, Beta Israel in Ethiopia, and the Fugu Plan's YudayakuoAtleast it isn't Jewish Madagascar for the millionth time.
>>296750Why would the fugu plan commence when there is no nazis?
>>296822Japanese leftists
This fucking mod.
>>290727Your brain on reddit.
>>296984But the Fugu plan was thought up by imperials
Are you hyped for 0.3 anons?
>>299427Yes
>>296750What is the deal with occultists in California?
>>290727Do people really think China isn't neoliberal?
>>285424
>>300818I am not even sure which one is more cursed than the others. I guess I will go with Khlebnikov's route first because his poems were weird but kind of mesmerizing in their own kind of way.
Does the game normally crash when you try to assign traits to generals?
>>301118That bug was patched recently
>>296700what kind of meme ideologies can the collapsed US get?
>>302252So far only California is finished. Choices are>Californian 'democracy'>Upton Sinclair dabbing on the rich>Ed Bodin convincing Hollywood reptile people and aliens exist and they will destroy the Anglo-Saxon race
So is all the memeshit in this mod centered around the accelerationists or is there weird stuff coming out of the more typical ideologies?
>>302427It's more than memeshit anon, but to answer your question yes there are some more wild paths for all ideologies
>>302436I'm just being facetious, actually just finished a Pindorama playthrough
>>302442Each ideologies have their own insanityAnarchist - Chapayev's anti-intellectual ancom RussiaNatVan - Goebbel's 1984 Germany. Ernst Graf Reventlow pagan commie Germany, Esperanto Pan-Asian vanguardist JapanRevSoc - Gleb Bokii's esoteric shaman bolshevismReactionary - Savitri Devi larping as Kali, Theosophy India, Thelema Britain, Dterikhs RussiaDespotism - Drozdovsky's Russia, Ruthenian Empire, Firestone Corporate LiberiaLiberals - Ayn Rand, Minarchist Enver Hoxha, Palpatine Kerensky, Social Credit Britain
based
>>302464>Esperanto Pan-Asian JapanWait what?
Literally a schizo mod
>>305029https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikki_KitaEsperanto was a popular thing among Japanese nationaliat commies.
>>305074If by Schizo you mean based
"They brought us here as peasants, but we became the conquistadors. The native Asians were thought of as savages, but they endured. In the battle of Albazin two and a half centuries ago, Muscovites were stopped by force of arms; in battle against famine, Zheltorossiya was stopped by reality itself." - Malewicz in Khabarovsk to an enthusiastic crowd, informing them of Republic's collapse
I was playing Fiume and the writing for it felt like it was done by an ESL retard
>>305442This... This is beautiful.
>>302464>Goebbbel's 1984 Germany>Savitri Devi larping as KaliYou will provide the images and no one will get hurt.Are there basically-Nazi right Posadists in South America under Serrano? Because that doesn't seem unrealistic the more I read about this mod.
>>305537>>305537Left: Big Brother GoebbelsRight: Ernst Reventlow's Pagan TradSoc
>>305608This makes my Brother the Big Brother.
>>305443Because it was. At least he was working with passion, even if lacks some deep understanding of English.
>>305443>>305443You can tell from the German locs like focus descriptions and events that theyre written by actual Germans. Complete with capitalization of nouns.Poland was developed and written entirely by a single polish person. And much of Brazil was conceptualized and written by actual Brazilians
>>305774You`re correct
>>305774And that's a good thing!
>>305774>>305774At least it's not like TNO>kicked out every Japanese developers because their proposals wont make your IJN vs IJA story happen>We're not russophobic! We have Russians on the team! Said russians are anglos and americans living in russia, or a very westernized russian
>>305537
>>305904Well. That's something.That isn't that far fetched an interpretation, being completely honest. I very much like this teams' adherence to strict historical madness, especially the obscure kind that I like.Sternberg exists. The entire ideological class 'Esoteric Reactionary' exists. I am left wondering just how far this can go.
>>305944The devs pretty much say that every nutjob they picked are historical and based on their actual irl ramblings, no perception warping or modifications necessary.Despite the absurdity the people and ideas are historically accurate.
>>305779>anglos and americans living in russiaTruly a fate worse then death.
these are the people developing your mod
How playable is this mod in its current state? Worth a playthrough, or should I just wait and check back in a year.
>>306250Very playable for a good amount of countries
>>305074Sounds more fun then endless glorifying of Prussia and average Austrian painter.
TFW the Acephale legalizes owning loli slavesBASED
They are describing one of the former Red Flood devs
>>306293where is this from?
This mod is trash, no doubt it appeals to the poltards on here because it frequently uses the word "cuck".
>>306312You know that’s an actual word outside of /pol/, right?
>>306308Announcements channel in the Red Flood server. The Head Dev was describing the actions of the people that a former dev who got kicked out, hangs out with
>>306293lmao
>>306293Skeletor is just a sad little man who says whatever will get him attention since he has no fucking friends. He also got kicked out. Then tried to sneak back in under an alt while pretending to be a tranny. Then got kicked out for being annoying without people realised it was him.
>>305951Is there a complete list somewhere? I would like to know more but I don't want to download an entire video game.
>>306673Aleksei GastevJiddu KrishnamurtiSavitri DeviAlisa RosenbaumSigurd Wettenhovi-AspaOswald de Andrade Aleksey Nikolayevich TolstoyVelimir KhlebnikovAntonin ArtaudFilippo Tommaso MarinettiGuido KellerAugust EngelhardtPavel GorgulovMikhail DrozdovskyErnst Graf ReventlowOssian ElgströmOtto Gustaf CarlsundMircea EliadeAugustin Tin UjevicGleb BokiiVladimir CristiGeorges BatailleHoward ScottEdward Longstreet BodinWilliam S. BurroughsEmma GoldmanElizabeth Gurley FlynnAndre BretonMarcus GarveyHermann Poole BlountJean-Joseph RabeariveloAvraham SternIda RubensteinSin ChaehoLyuh Woon-hyungItou NoeOkawa ShumeiHitoshi YamakawaAbe IsooKumazawa HiromichiHuynh Phu SoAlfred RosenbergMaria SpiridonovaAris VelouchiotisNancy MitfordPamela MitfordDiana MitfordUnity Valkryie MitfordJessica MitfordDeborah MitfordOtto Braun, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Braun_(Lyriker)
When's the big new update dropping?
>>306574Skeletor was DIO?
>>306891Hopefully by Q1
Ya gotta love it, lads.
>>306860>Nancy Mitford>Pamela Mitford>Diana Mitford>Unity Valkryie Mitford>Jessica Mitford>Deborah MitfordWhat the fuck?
>>307044Read up on the Mitford sisters.
>>307268>each sister is a radical in different beliefs>tankie, aristocrat, luddite, fascistWow
>>307268This almost makes me want to boot up ck2 just to play as these crazy motherfuckers, but I know there's not really any way to emulate this the way I want to without cheating way too much.
>>287182I never understood that meme.
>>307010I believe this to be a reasonable, acceptable restoration of Armenia's rightful territories. I would probably also add the Levant as a buffer, as well as the Aegean Sea and the entirety of the Northern Caucuses.
>>306293Holy fucking based
>>306860>Bodin>Avraham Stern>DeviHoly fuck what a lineup!
>>307644>the Levant as a bufferAnd not as Armenian Cilicia?
>>306242based
>>307044>Unity Valkryie MitfordNot only was she called that, but apparently she was conceived in the town of Swastika, Ontario- It’s basically just fate that she’d go on to (try to?) fuck Hitler.She also attempted sudoku when The War started but ended up as a vegetable
>>306860That's not even full list. There is also Tesla, Szukalski and Kazembek among others.
>>287182Mayakovsky OTL killed himself because of a woman called Veronika.
>>291728Anyone?
Enver Hoxha
Was going to start playing this then I saw that version 0.3 is expected soon(ish)Is it worth playing now or should I just wait for next major release?>>286552TNO is now actually run by a tranny. Remember that mod has LGBT equality as a policy and apparently being fanatical LGBT means you get a monthly pop growth despite the fact LGBT's are genetic dead ends for the most part and result in less pop growth.Then again they think women can become men and men can become women so insanity is the norm.>>287505From what I read 0.2.1 is a stopgap ahead of the upcoming 0.3 big update.>>305779Multiple anons got banned from server for daring to correct Panzer on his ill flawed logic and "facts" about WW2 in which he blamed every single aspect(literally everything) on Germany.Panzer got so fucking triggered by anyone daring to oppose him on it or the evidence that destroys his very short sighted Americanised view. Easy to be like that when your nation were virtually untouched by the conflict.>>305904Her aswell as Thule and Vril societies OTL believed Hitler was the one that comes before the last. The vanguard of the coming age to save the world.To this day their successors in the shadows believe we are in that time and the man they've been waiting for will emerge this century.>>3062932029 is when Beria's full deeds will finally come to light. His crimes were an open secret in the diplomat circles of Moscow.Expected to be 200+ personal child and teen murders and 1000+ personal rapes.The fact a sociopath like Stalin told his daughter to never go with "uncle laventij" alone and if he tries to make her, to immediately report him directly to one of Stalins guards, just shows how messed up Beria was.
>>307377Not crazy. Just interesting how their personalities were so different.
>>312252wdym thats based
>>312252Is this a joke about the bioreactors?
>>312252Holy fuck based!!
>>305904Is she in the game yet? I gave United Provinces a peek but it was a generic focus tree.
>>312568No, she's coming in next update.
New toozer just dropped
>>314986Coming in the next update
>>314986>>305442>Flag has been replaced with an animated film projection of the flagBASED
>>311823>2029 is when Beria's full deeds will finally come to light.At risk of drifting off topic, how's that, you reckon?
>>315221Yep. The flags are now projections.
>>315378
>>315379
>>315217I can get behind this kind of Hollywood.
>>314986Wait, they made a new UI?
>>316198Yea there’s a new Art Deco style UI, completely custom made
>>316214one thing i'd wish for red flood is a more standout palette for the ideologies, they don't convey the insanity enough. though the new ui may spice it up.
>>316214This and the super events are the two things I'm looking forward to the most, desu. Super events are probably the one good thing that came of TNO.
Apparently there’s 2 Eurasias in 0.3, this time from Orenburg
>>317237
>>315378>>315379>>315382There is something about these borders that is just so intensely pleasing. Is this Indo-European autism awaking within me?
https://old.reddit.com/r/RedFloodMod/comments/kd9iyo/red_flood_progress_report_19_orenburg_military/
Beautiful
>Red Flood server opens a Politics channel >Everyone immediately spammed niggers >Somehow changes to civil discussion about politics and religion>Retards shit talking each other's religions but laughing it off to make fun of atheists>Actual intellectual discussion criticizing modern politics like Atomwaffen and neoliberalism>Devolves to niggerposting and furry shitposting in-betweenBased!
>>317566first of all i will not have anyone refer to rene guenon without the title sheikh
>>317566>>317763Maybe I'll join it, just hope they don't mind my unironic Serranoism
>>317566welcome to red flood, it's cozy in there
>>317777quads of truth
>>292649Himmler is probably actually as autistic as TNO depicts him if we're being honest. Ordenstaat Burgund was an actual idea of his, and thats not mentioning his other odd occultish beliefs. Even by the standards of weird that guys like Göring set, they seem like JFK compared to Himmler.
>>318041Himmler’s Ordenstaat was basically neo-aristocracy LARPing as modern day knights with revived paganistic beliefs, not the shithole that Burgundy is in TNO
>>288896Go watch Space is the Place, it's a classic.
>>317566>enter the discord to see if you're making shit up>it has a furry emoteAllah save us all.
Technocratic America?
>>318347what did you expect from a bunch of autistic radicals
>>285411stupid faggy commie mod again?
>>318473What?
>>318368No, spiritualists one
>>318726Based Bodin cucks the lizardmen once again
>>318347Oh I can explain, you see one of the devs accidentally posted unedited furry porn and so I cropped it to immortalise his faggotry.
>Aside the usual occultist mumbo-jumbo, Bodin wanted to use nukes to divert the Gulf Stream so Britain freezes overAgain, Red Flood teaching us that these people are real and so are their beliefs
>>319228Thanks, they didn't want to respond in the disc.wait trixie is that you
>>319233Well my name is Nathan really but yeah, it's me
>>319239>>319228Is it true everyone on the team are balls to the wall bonkers and dont circlejerk in an echo chamber like Panzer's human centipede chain?
>>306860I thought I was extremist, until I looked up some of these names.
>>319358Reality is more stranger than fiction.
>>319347Well not everyone is bonkers, but yes we despise ideological circlejerking. Also it would be impractical to ban radicalism - a solid 80% of the best workers are some form of radical.
>Actually embracing radicalism instead of suppressing it like TNODare I say, based
>>319376>>319376Is there possibility of the revived Evola`s path? Also, speaking about crazy things, why there are no satanism paths in RF?
>>319376Based
>>319358Any persons that struck out the most?
>>319419Evola? Not quite, His writings also make it clear that he wanted to not be a leader but more so an influencer. But we have got plans for him in the future.About Satanism, what do you mean by Satanism?
>>319529I guess he means LaVeyan Satanism. Which come out in 1960's.
>>319537Well we won't be having LaVey, but if we were to have him he would be a Market Liberal
>>319545Sure, why not.Also, thank you for making this very entertaining mod.Can't wait to play more.
Is Hitler in and what is he?
>>319579Hitler is in Austria, he's a pretty moderate guy all things considered
>>319562Thanks, I hope you'll enjoy the next update
>>319580>hitler is the moderate in thisNice one.
>>319604Hitler never joined the war and stayed in Austria.Without the factors that pushed him to radicalization such as war trauma, poverty, talking to /x/-tier conspiracy nuts on the streets, he became a populist who only wants to protect the last shred of German sanity he loves in Austria from commies, futurists, and other fucked up movements.
>>319583ESOTERIC RADICAL MIGUEL SERRANO IN SOUTH AMERICA WHENW H E NPOSADIST LUXURY GAY SPACE COMMUNISM W H E NRADIAL JET TURBINE SAUCER SEMI-UFO WARS W H E N
>>319852Serrano way too young,Posadas also too young,No comment
>>319900based
I see that Italy is considered an important country in this mod but it has a generic focus tree. What's the deal with that?
>>285412>Kim Chwa-chinWasn't his son a mobster or something like that?
>>320161Italy gets a tree and decisions in 0.3Paths are democracies, socialism, and a military dictatorship under Balbo
>>285411I'm about to start a playthrough, who should I play as first lads?
>>320240Please come to Brazil!
>>319852>RADIAL JET TURBINE SAUCER SEMI-UFO WARSIn normal words, please.
>>320161Italy is basically food for Fiume now. It might change in the next updates though
>>320792Yea, as a Dev™, I can confirm Italy’s gettin a tree in 0.3
>>320792>Italy is basically food for Fiume nowand it is a good thing
>>319545>satanist>not ancap
>>322444Well market lib does include an caps in red flood, kinda
>>317774please join holy shit
>>286552It’s actually a groomer furry with a shit fetish
>>324623Furry yea, but the other two aren’t true
>>324650furries who don't groom must have awful matting
>>324623>>324650A white ethnonationalist furry.According to the dev, furry community is an example of peak white supremacy because the majority of furries are white people in first world countries
>>324704but overall he good boy
>>324704>furry community is an example of peak white supremacy because the majority of furries are white people in first world countriesI was having a laugh but after reminiscing my experience with furries he may have a point. The overwhelming majority of furries no matter their sexuality are caucasians in europe and the americas.USA, Canada, Britain, Chile, Brazil. What the fuck?
>>324784Hi, Red Flood head writer here. My theory on Furries being a good example of white culture, if not the peak of the white hyperculture as a whole, goes even deeper. I believe that in general the idea of being a furry entails a total rejection of evolution and logic, meaning that generally furries are a wider proccess of stagnation of the evolutionary process. Not only is being a furry a rejection of linear, ever progressing evolution, but also a complete overhaul of it, with furries generally completely avoiding the whole concept that many darwinists have of what is "fit". Not only are furries the vanguard of white hyperculture, but also the vanguard of a post-human society as a whole. Regardless, whiteness entails wealth and so entails a relative comfort and happiness, meaning one can look towards new identities for expressing their innermost needs. One could go so far as saying that, indeed, other cultures are unable to express this vanguard (being a furry) because they are intellectually and spiritually inferior, stuck to murdering eachother in the millions for ethnic conflicts and petty things instead of looking forward to "enwhiten" themselves. Notice how the whitest countries in Africa (Algeria, Namibia) are doing the best economically. If Africa was solely made out of white people, it would be richer than Europe.
>>325030
>>325030what the fuck i'm a furry now
>>325030>mod about weird people>made by weird peopleYou know what they say about pets looking like their owners
hi
>>325151Hello Karaboga gnostic
>>325167booga :)
>>325030So basically, furries are treading a path towards a white ethnocentrist primitist utopia? Wtf, I love furfags now.
>>325030you need a doctor, you need SEVERAL DOCTORS
>>325207Doctors are revisionist comrade, face the wall now
>>325030So, do you think RF devs are better or worse than TNO's?
>>325207Nah, he is completely correct, you`re clearly delusional, comrade
>>325243RF mods are TNO mods that browsed 4chan for 5 years
Furry culture only exists because of whites living in luxury and decadence for too long. It's a culture that cannot exists in third-world and non-white cultures that condemn such ideas.In a way he's right. Furry is peak white culture
>>325272>RF mods are TNO modsThey’re polar opposites bruv wym
>>325272RF mods wanna have funTNO mods wanna shove their agenda of hurr nazis bad hurr libertarian good down our throats
>>325243RF devs have been my friends for over a year now. I can't imagine being friends with TNO admins
>>325272Listen, in TNO I get banned for saying a meanie slur, while in the RF's political channel, the head writer sang nigtales. Big difference.
>>285423>Tin Ujević as possible leader>Nikola Tesla as possible leaderMy sides, please develop and release this
>>325438It's getting released in the next updateETA is probably next month or early February
>>325483Hoping for a Christmas release
>>325692I too hoped for a Christmas release
>>325030Bougain why would you do this in public?
>>325030Are you doing a smear campaign on Red Flood devs or just retarded lmao>When I get assfucked in my fursuit I feel Óðinn smilingShut the fuck up and just admit you are a degenerate
>>325311Meaning they're degenerates, but fun degenerates
>>326175>>When I get assfucked in my fursuit I feel Óðinn smiling
>>325274Actually "degeneracy" (as things violating anglo-saxon protestant morality not as violation of local customs) is natural state of being of traditional societies. What new breed of reactionaries online think as "trad" is merely another product of modernism. Weirdo shamanistic sensualism in wolf skins is more of a traditional lifestyle than pic related.
>>326175No, the devs are just very varied in their eccentric beliefs, like the one guy who’s an unironic Hyperborea believer (there’s probably more desu)
>>317566So this is the degenerate thing I heard so much about?
>>325030And this is ladies and gentlemen why you DO NOT go to Brazil.
>Red Flood team is full of radicals with nth-position ideas from bizarre superethos theories to mythological larping>TNO and KR teams are full of left libertarians, democracy wankers, and rainbow progressives>CBTS and TWR teams are full of globohomo centrists, holier-than-thou, we are the good guys, circlejerkers>Kaiserredux team is full of chan level conservatives and alt-litesWhich dev teams do you support?
>>326917RF and KX because fuck you that's why
>>326917Isn't CBTS literally "No Fun Allowed" mod?I heard a mixed things about it.
>>326917don't care, to me they're all discord trannies
>>325151Hi
>>327006Including Iron Grip and TNO Hellfire?
>>327006Ok retard
I assume everyone is talking about the red flood fan fork right? the old main dev died or something, right? Not sure exactly how it went or which one to play
>>327146No that’s Red World
>>326175no that's just how bougain is
>Kaiserredux team is full of chan level conservatives and alt-lites Looks like I'm team RF then, I can jive with Serranoists better than underages who think they are rebelling by voting republican
>>327212It's less Odin and more Tengri. Or Tito. Or whatever the fuck is Brass Man into that week.
>>326175>>327212>>327546Ok I take it back sounds based
>>327527I used to think that, but a lot of these teenagers treat politics like a kid on deviantart treats OCs. It's all about being the quirkiest and pretending to be like anything but the bored kids they are.Then again, it does make for a fun mod, much like the bronies'
>>327686Yea wacky funny ideology shopping is retarded, although usually that’s more the fans of the mod than the mod and devs themselves
>>327146He faked his death like 3PAC
>>327686It would get tiresome if I was in their discord but it's amusing from a distance
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedFloodMod/comments/kh6392/red_flood_progress_report_20_general_governorate/>Boris Annenkov
>>318070from what I can gather OS Burgundy was basically intended by Himmler to be "Prussia 2"
>>327881It's usually not that bad, as long as you can put up with the few people who beat the "Wacky Funny ideology xD" joke to death
>>329074It's "I get out my Browning", idiot. You ruined the pun.
>>327034>Schmedes' Feed and Seed>Formerly Oskar's Fuck and Suck
>>329131Not my image retard
>>327803I still can't believe he was taken from us in a tragic water polo accident
>>309808>OTLKYS
>>291241I thought Hitler already was in the mod? Although he can go down the path of a Conservative or a Futurist i think.
>>291759True, he's just a conservative austrian politician which is hilarious.
>>327028Haven't heard of TNO hellfire. Rebalance mod or overhaul?
>>325030>Not only are furries the vanguard of white hyperculture, but also the vanguard of a post-human society as a whole.
>>329358Check the TNO thread. It's being made by anonsRemoves all commie wanks, troons, and other forced agenda plotlines
>>329936Based, hope its get enough love for a release.
>>329936Kinda fear it will just add more wank. Let's see how it goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5MyOZ4VQRk
>>330876The virgin TNO: A world with three super-IsraelsThe chad Red Flood: A world with three super-Ukraines! Maybe more! Imagine.
>>330892>threedude>Ukraine>Grey Ukraine>Green Ukraine>Hetmanate of Brazil
>>330896>Yellow Ukraine>Blue Ukraine>Red Ukraine>Burgundy Ukraine>Tyrian Ukraine>World Ukraine>Interplanetary Ukraine>Interstellar Ukraine>Galactic Ukraine>Supercluster Ukraine>Universal Ukraine>Multiversal Ukrainehttps://i.4cdn.org/gif/1608351724543.webm
>>330908slava ukraini
>>330941>Across the entire universe, never stopping, never faltering, never fading. People and planets and stars will become Ukraine. And the wavelength will continue, breaking through the rift at the heart of the Salo Cascade into every dimension, every parallel, every single corner of creation. >*This* is my ultimate victory, Vatnik! The Ukrainification of reality *itself*!
Why hasn't someone done an Esperanto cover of Plastic Love yet?
>>330941heroyam slava
>>330941smert` vorogam
>>331005Do I even want to know?
>>330896How do you get the last one? Or it's not in the game yet?
>>331139Americans go all out on world-building for their fictional OPFORs
>>331176Not gonna lie, the 82nd Airborne deciding to become the mask and start a Trigonist state for real would be an interesting concept for a HoI4 mod with an American collapse and warlords.
>>290516What the fuck was his deal after all?
>>325030Can't decide if I should be impressed or disgusted, the work must continue on this mod
>The world of Ukraine will fall, and all will come to russian darkness, Kyiv to ruin...I do not know what strength is in my blood, but I swear to you I will not let the Dniper City fall, nor our people fail.>Our people, our people... >I would have followed you, my brother... my captain... my hetman.Be at peace, Son of Укpaїнa.
>>331152Brazil can collapse if none of the parties scores a majority and if you then win as the counter revolution but give the oligarchs too much independence.
>>331600I was close then.I made the proper government for the republic and got the monarchist, Pindorama guy and all others.
One sign RF is the opposite/nemesis of TNO is that its custom UI is actually eye pleasing and nice to look at
>>332309Yeah, looks nice.And this is all for one nation?
>>332310TwoOrenburg and Steppes
>>330727It will probably just gonna be wank in the opposite direction
What happened to Otto Braun Prussia tree?
>>3323780.4It will have European reworks for Germany, France, and Prussia gets content
>>332409thought i heard 0.3
>>3324250.3 contents were posted here>>292786
>>332309doing it better than TNO isn't an achievement, TNO's UI is pure cancer
>>332309How is that 90 graphic adventure looking shit better than TNO? TNO interface is clean, easy on the eye and elegant. This is cluttered and chaotic.
>>332965It's an art-deco interface you retard
>>332965The TNO UI is better than it was in the demos, but calling the Red Flood UI cluttered when TNO's is much worse in that regard is retarded
>>332435that isn't accurate, that's months out of date and was never meant for public eyest. mod
>>332965>Art Deco is 90s graphic adventure
>>333092Shouldn't it be "Art Aero"? Since Deco means water.
>>333097No, Art Decohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Deco
>>333097>he thinks art deco means water just because it was featured in bioshockRetard
>>333101>>333109I was rusing. It was a reference to those "bio means water" posts.
>>333206>Guys I was just pretending to be retardeddumbass
>>333286Yes. I was just trying to make a funny joke, not meaning to imply you you were stupid for calling me out.The real chad ruseman move would be to pretend to be retarded and trick people into agreeing with you like Alan Sokal.
>>333007What is SEU Collapse?
Madagascar gets more content than the balkans and china
>>334253Yes, and?
Red Flood official merch
January 25
>>336870What will be in it?
>>336872>EurasiaRussia ReworkOrenburgYakutiaSouth Eastern UnionSteppes GovernmentBaltic GovernorateSiberiaFinlandKavkaz Society>ZheltorussiaRework + New PathsZheltorussia Collapse>BalkanYugoslavia>ItalyRework + New Paths>AfricaBelgian CongoMadagascan Monarchist Civil War>East AsiaJapan Rework + New PathsRevolutionary Japan Rework + New PathsKoreaMantetsu>South AsiaUnited Provinces>Middle-EastAssyria>USARework + New PathsUSA CollapseCalifornia
>>336908Don’t forget a fully custom full GUI overhaul
Cow turrets
>>314986Damn I thought that was Pelley for a seconded and got all excited
>>339462Pelley is cuck, spiritualism is the life
https://old.reddit.com/r/RedFloodMod/comments/kmbgtw/red_flood_progress_report_21_siberian_general/
>>339440This is some EDF level of genius.
Who’s ready for some African Democracy in Upper Volta?
>>336872The changelog was leaked MONTHS ago
>>340874This changelog is outdated you retard
>>340831>political compasses
Is this Red Flood?
>>343146No that’s LoHaLi
>>343146>union of serbs and croatsExtremely wishful and radical, must be red flood material
Happy New Years from the Red Flood Team and Vitesse the Spotted Hyena!
I have a headcanon that Baader and Meinhof in this timeline became leaders of a comedy group, since communism is already established. They're infamous for that time Baader ruined a standup night by rattling off a bunch of negative statistics about capitalism, and for their TV show full of provocative skits, such as the one lampooning the Prussian education system where Meinhof plays a depressed schoolteacher. The skit ends with her hanging herself (don't worry, it was fake).Of course there are troublemakers who go around saying that Andy Baader is a far-leftist terrorist. Every time there is a shooting or bombing, some jokers go around to news networks with insider info that Baader is the culprit. It's gotten to the point where fact checkers have to tell people not to believe it when they hear "Baader is the shooter".But he takes it in stride, and even embraces the meme, such as with his humor book co-written with Meinhof titled "How To BOMB the Prussian Government".
>>343792>having an actual furry as a mascotBut why?
>>344036Ask Disney or any other animation studio in the 1930s
>>344036>Hi, Red Flood head writer here. My theory on Furries being a good example of white culture, if not the peak of the white hyperculture as a whole, goes even deeper. I believe that in general the idea of being a furry entails a total rejection of evolution and logic, meaning that generally furries are a wider proccess of stagnation of the evolutionary process. Not only is being a furry a rejection of linear, ever progressing evolution, but also a complete overhaul of it, with furries generally completely avoiding the whole concept that many darwinists have of what is "fit". Not only are furries the vanguard of white hyperculture, but also the vanguard of a post-human society as a whole. Regardless, whiteness entails wealth and so entails a relative comfort and happiness, meaning one can look towards new identities for expressing their innermost needs. One could go so far as saying that, indeed, other cultures are unable to express this vanguard (being a furry) because they are intellectually and spiritually inferior, stuck to murdering eachother in the millions for ethnic conflicts and petty things instead of looking forward to "enwhiten" themselves. Notice how the whitest countries in Africa (Algeria, Namibia) are doing the best economically. If Africa was solely made out of white people, it would be richer than Europe.
Arriba España!
Albania Hyperborea
10/10 quote
>>346181>accelerationist national frontwhat is their deal and how does it differ from the Falangistas?
>>346840Accels focus on the future. Visionaries and modernists who want to let go of the past.Reactions focus on the past. Traditionalists and fundamentalists who want to bring back the glory of the old ways.
>>346886Yeah but is national syndicalism really something 'reactionary'?
>>346893It's more of the Falange's traditionalist stance that makes them reactionary even if they are economically third position.But the Falange controlled region also have Syndicate faction meaning there could be a division between the traditionalists and syndicalists side of the Falange
>>346989>>346893>>346886>>346840In Red Flood, the Falange and JONS never merged. The Falange doubled down on traditionalism and catholic nationalism while the JONS found support within the Internatonale to become their own thing.
>>346840If the National Front collapses the JONS+Falange split off (not as a united entity though, this is important)>>346893The Falange has the sub-ideology of Reactionary Populism, they’re not full out reactionaries like the Carlists or some other OTL factions but they’re a lot less Syndicalist in Red Flood due to the merger of the JONS and Falange never happening>>347026This is also true, the JONS and Falange never merged so while yes the Falange is still somewhat National Syndicalist, it lacks a large amount of the influence from that and is more akin to guildism, while the JONS is much more Syndicalist on their own right
>>288896>Not creating Kekistan in hoi4
Welcome to Yakutia!https://old.reddit.com/r/RedFloodMod/comments/kpimpm/red_flood_progress_report_22_yakutia/
>>285411What's the best way to rip this game wthout paying a fortune in DLC?
POLAND 2 LETS GO
>>349791
>>349791>>349798who is this nigga
>>354290Stach z Warty, the greatest polish artist of the XX century.>autocorrect turns 'artist' into 'racist'How thoughtful of it.
New American TNO path spotted
>>355202>They won't even commit sudoku when the coup inevitably failswhy bother?
>>355202Red Flood American Collapse warlord leak
>>355385Here are his advisors
What are the amerimutts doing in this mod?
>>356203Still in prohibition and with great depression bad enough that blacks are leaving for Liberia.
>>285411Anthropofagy unites us. Anything else is retarded.
>this entire threadzoomers learning history was a mistake
>>356422Based and hungrypilled
>>356451Cope seethe dilate + sneed feed seed chuck fuck suck
playing United Provinces and I'm wondering where the unique focus tree is. Do I have to unite India for it or is it something different?
>>358563It's added in this update, it's not in the game yet.
>>356451I wonder what it's like being a commie and knowing anywhere you can't actively suppress descent you're always outnumbered.
>>359722This is how you can spot a reddit or /pol/ tourist. They think that le epic 4chan is a place to sling insults like the wild west because thats what anons do! holy shit why are some people so reactive.
>>359722i wonder what it's like being able to spell>>359752i've been on 4chan since before you were borndon't get me wrong there's some cool stuff in this mod, but it's like madlibs, so much random stuff that doesn't cohere. you can't just take random-ass nutbags from history and throw them together and expect a compelling world to emerge. it's a good start but modding hoi4 is more than just picking ebin historical memes and mashing them together
>>359752>4chan is not a place to sling insultsHownuru?
Does anyone have the "Goebbels chickenfarmer" image?
>>359768>lol kek kek exploding van hahah teh lulz!!!! OVER 90000 INTERNETS GOOD SIR! WINRAR!!!! AM I FITTING IN YET??this is how you sound
>>359763> it's a good start but modding hoi4 is more than just picking ebin historical memes and mashing them togetherHave you actually played the mod?
>>359773i hadn't until now!and then i immediately stopped when i read this and cringed so hard i had an aneurysm!
>>359772And yet I know how to capitalize and punctuate my sentences rather than typing like a nimrod from the youtube comment sections. Riddle me this, why is shitting on a commie bad but the your post shitting on zoomers >>356451 fine, you gay little hypocrite? Fuck off and learn a little humility, newfag.
>>359810Cringe! Cringe! Cringe! Cringe!Try speaking a language that isn't buzzword retard
>>359817those are two different posters
>>359752>/pol/ touristWatch your mouth boy, /vst/ is a /pol/ colony, unlike /his/ddit.>>359769I thought it was Himmler who was the chickenfarmer, and Goebbels who was the commie activist.
>>359763>it's a good start but modding hoi4 is more than just picking ebin historical memes and mashing them togetherWhat mod did it "right" in your view?
>>360548acting like a 2016 tourisr isnt acceptable anywhere my friend
>>361353Equestria at War
>>361731Who are you calling tourist? I was here for the Z Trial, and six years before that too.
>>362206>only a real intellectual like me can appreciate compelling narrative of hasbro's pastel horses
>>290807Youre missing Brussels, Beijing and the Kremlin
>>362314They are very compelling
>>359810Do you haven't actually played the mod, faggot? I agree that is cringe btw, I hadnt seen that, I suppose its an option from the starting pop-up? doesn't really matter.
>>356451>history was a mistakeftfy
>>355093Oh yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio made a movie about him. It's on Netflix.
>>328785Teutonic Order but replace the knights with the SS.
>>324623and its trans
>>285411Test
>>363492>>324623>>286552The tranny is the old head writer, he retired to make his own mod, Decorum EstThe current head writer is a furry white nationalist brazilian
Cryptobumps?
>>300818Why does one tree have vaporwave/80s neon shit? What's going on there?
>>364759Kavkaz is futurist so it uses more avant-garde aesthetics, although I wouldn't call anything showcased here "vaporwave"
>>364759Neon lights were commercially widely available by 1910. They aren't "80" any more than automobiles.
>>367215
AnÄrgi :DDDDDD
>>285411Why the fuck does a mod for a grand strategy game have plotholes that doesn't make any sense to me
>>368350What plotholes?
>>331176>>331214>ywn be a autist making up alt-hist scenarios for the USAF>ywn be the man who writes in the first space conflict and the guaranteed kessler syndrome that would occur if such a thing were to occur
>>364759>Bright colors =/= vaporwave dumbass
this mod is sick but I can't bring myself to play hoi4, game's crap. thanks for this thread
>>291745>t. alarmist retard>>285420As far as I can tell I doesn't fall into the pitfall of other hoi4 mods, where the devs end up getting too invested in the memes surrounding their shitty fanfics
>>369104t. tranny
>>367215>neons were invented way closer to 1880 than 1980
Ledesma is getting a new portrait because the old one was shit (and the hitler inspired haircut made no sense in RF's timeline)
>>369488
>>296700I lived with some Wobblies for about two years. They owned guns and worked construction. Drank like fish and worked on unionizing some restaurant workers unionized.
>>369151I find trannies pretty repulsive, but I'm not under the delusion they pose a threat to western civilization. It's gone through a lot worse and will continue to do so.
>>370937They aren't a threat. They are a sign of decay.
>>371128>muh decaysocial movements ebb and flow, bullshit rises to the mainstream and falls into obscurity over the course of centuries, there's no reason to act like the modern age is some sort of period of irreversible decline unless you buy into bullshit cyclical theories of history like Spengler or something
>>285411>let's talk about the most based alternative history mod in existenceThis isn't Kaiserredux though
>>371145redpill me on it, what does it add that puts it apart from KR?
>>371818It adds a bunch of meme paths like pirate horthy or Al Capone CSA, restores some removed paths, changes syndie france from blue to red and makes italy just 2 countries again
>>371133civilizations ebb and flow too. typically the sign of a collapsing empire is feminism. we act like its new, but it really isn't. we just have so much technology that we're able to stave it off while still having feminism.
>>371855it also crashes constantly
>>371873Women's rights are just a natural consequence of making all men equal. You don't contribute any more to society than any random thot and shouldn't have any more to say than she does.
>>369363Russian fascist party headquarters pre-ww2
>>371873cyclical theories are among the shittiest pieces of historiography, and to compare is one thing, but to so audaciously draw parallels from whatever events disregard the nuance and context in which they occurred, so please demonstrate how feminism is a symptom of decline
Welcome to the Manchurian School of Economics. Today we will be learning about Corporatism.
>>374966Was hoping to see some asian stuff. Has commie Japan's focus tree been released?
>>375174There should be a joint Japanese-Korean progress report coming up
>>371917defining it as 'contributing to society' is part of the problem. its all about what you produce for the liberal mind. creating a stable society is about hierarchy and traditional gender roles. of course I agree that once you give all men equal rights it's just one step to full female rights, which is why female voting rights quickly followed equal rights for all men, and in fact any woman who owned property often could still vote before "woman's suffrage". Its unfortunate that we can have all men be equal and still keep the gender roles, but weaker men seem to use their political power to gain status with women in the short term, and so they vote for equal rights for example in order to appease women. In generally, however, your immediate jumping to attacking me is part of the problem, men shouldn't attack each other unless its necessary, they should cooperate, lack of male cooperation only makes feminism stronger.>>372301Of course its different. I'm not sure I was offering a "cyclical theory" only stating that the structures of civilization depend on certain things and by removing those things we break things down. It was more of an argument that we make the same mistakes over and over again and never remember. Even the bible mentions this in Isaiah 3:12, describing presumably an israel where "women ruled over". I forget the source, but it was also said that near the end of the roman empire "Rome ruled the world, but women ruled rome." So much is lost if its not explicitly stated in some surviving text, and people like you just assume its not true I suppose. Another example is the Arab empire, which was moving to give women a role in Islam and appoint them as judges and teachers before 'suddenly' being overwhelmed by barbarians due to weakness.
>>375179>creating a stable society is about hierarchy and traditional gender rolesHierarchy in functioning societies is based value to the collective. Medieval aristocracy for example was originally warrior caste that later devolved into rich fags that were important because they were rich. And then they were outcompeted by bourgeoisie who actually knew what it was doing. Sad truth is that in any historical society you could bring up women STILL had more to say than low value men not by legal power but by soft power as reproductive selectors.I know what dreaming about some bygone trad society in which overweight autistic neckbeards are slaying pussy makes your peepee feel nice but that simply never happened. In neolithic Europe, ancient Sparta, or medieval France you wouldn't be dabbin on dem hoes. You wouldn't survive childhood.
>>375225>>375179God damn niggas nobody cares
>>371887>it also crashes constantlyThis is the main reason I keep deactivating it. That and they just don't seem to test anything so you get weird shit like the AOG cities declaring war on Qing China without a 'is neighbor' check on the focus leading to permanent war.
>>290807Glass New Jersey and California too.
