Based Petroglyph casually updating EaW to be 64-bithttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/32470/view/5455609499987684896?l=english
>>1602636Cool now they just have to make the game not suck ass
>>1602636>update to 64 bitit's over, I won't need another game for a long while. Time to put some Rebel scum under the Imperial boot.
Finally gave Awakening of the Rebellion a try after playing EAWX for years. Having a hard time starting as the rebels even after abandoning several worlds to consolidate. Imps keep showing up with 2-3 star destroyers + support then invading with a good variety of ground troops, obliterating even well garrisoned worlds
>>1602758it's like the Rebels were on the backfoot for most of the initial stages of the Galactic Civil War when they didn't have plot armor.
>>1602770I'm just an EAWX baby, please understand. I'm thinking about rushing research for quasars and better assault frigates to quickly get the perimeter around Mon Cal then raid imperial shipyards in the Core to cripple them for awhile
Absolutely fucking based
>>1602636Holy shit, does the game not run like ass anymore?Booting it up as soon as I get home
>>1602816It changes pretty much nothing for you, you can just use more memory. Modders on the other hand got some neat tools that they can make use of in the next months.
>>1602820Good enough for me
>>1602636Never played this before. Should I play Vanilla or Forces of Corruption for my first playthrough? Any mods that are essential?
>>1602820goddamn amazing news!
This is off-topic, but was their recent WW1 game good?
Would any chad on here provide the new steam update files? I purchased the physical edition on release and the GOG version long ago. I really would like to skip buying it a third time.
man it's been ages since I've played this game. I tried playing thawns revenge but got confused by all the new stuff. I thought minor factions were neat though. might start a new game tonight.
Redpill me, what mods do I need
>>1602636fucking based. I played this for hundreds of hours as a kid. my intro to strategy games desu
>>1603051Vanilla might be worthwhile for the campaign although it is somewhat dated, shit is 17 years old afterall. For the campaign FoC won't need any mods either imo.For mods it mostly depends on what you want out of it and how close you wish to stick to vanilla.The biggest mods right now are: Thrawn's Revenge(TR), Fall of the Republic(FotR) and Awakening of the Rebellion(AotR).TR and FotR:>both from the same team and use similar systems just with one being set after the OT movies and the other during the clone wars.>while they differ quite a bit from vanilla they are easy to pick up, pretty and still being developed.>both also have a command staff and neat era progession systemAotR:>set after Episode 4, has a story mission system and a somewhat autistic combat system under the hood, not surprising I guess considering the team was formed by krauts. It is quite possibly the hardest mod with arguably the best ground combat. >should get an update in a few weeks and certainly benefits from the fixes in the new patch.Empire at War Remake was also somewhat relevant in the past although I personally can't stand playing it. Feels like an AAA studio made a remake.There are a ton more mods and submods too, most of the former being closer to vanilla in style.Republic at War(RaW) was the big clone wars mod and supposedly is back in development.Phoenix Rising had a neat system with income per second instead of weekly and tons of upgrades for all units.The Rise of Legends mods cover scenarios from the beginnings of the Rebellion up to and including the Yuuzhan Vong.There is a Stargate mod too although it is comparatively new.
>>1602820>It changes pretty much nothing for youNta but I just reached >140fps in AotR space battles and 60fps when accelerating time.
>>1602636holy shit. No joke, this is the best gaming news I've heard since they didn't fuck up Brood War remastered.>captcha: XJANK
>>1603379Honestly, the fact that nobody is jumping onto the obvious hole in the market that is an new SW grand strategy games baffles me. I get that EA would rather be caught dead than making a niche product that appeals to a (compared to what they usually make) small group of players. But you think somebody would come begging at their door to use the license.Feel the same way about LOTR, by the way. The fact that most of the fandom is still playing BfmE and Medieval 2 mods is insane to me.
>>1603410i blame the downward trend in quality of the movies scaring away suits from endorsing these IP because they aren't trending on social media.
>>1603410intro: total war star wars
>>1603379Is there any major mod that doesn't remove the Consortium?Not that I'm particularly attached to the faction and corruption mechanic is ass, but they had cool units to play with. At least let me keep my Aggressors.
>>1602652/thread
>>1603410>Honestly, the fact that nobody is jumping onto the obvious hole in the market that is an new SW grand strategy games baffles me.Probably because the IP is dying and would've died a long time ago if not for Disney keeping it on life support.
>>1603521>Is there any major mod that doesn't remove the Consortium?Depends on how you see it, Black Sun is basically a rebranded Consortium with new units, that is what most mods do although some simply cut their mechanics completely.>At least let me keep my Aggressors.Those, and other Consortium units are pretty common desu.AotR has Zann as hero and part of the leadership mechanic which is how you unlock their units.TR has Warlord Zsinj which has access to Zann, the Aggressor and the Vengeance through the legitimacy system.
>>1603568>Probably because the IP is dyinglmao fucking retards like you keep the world spinning I guess. There are very few star wars games out there because getting star wars IP involves putting down 1 million on the table for Disney just to "start talking". Then it's anywhere from 1-10 million more to actually get things going. This filters out everyone who isn't EA or Facebook or other mega turbo jew kike corporation like Ubisoft.
>>1603589Cope Disneytard. The only thing keeping SW alive is Disney endlessly churning out nostalgiabait, which is the only thing people care about. No one cared about Andor. No one cared about The New Republic. Literally all they can do is milk the old movies.
>>1603410>SW grand strategy gamesYou gotta think as a corporate entity to understand why SW strategy games aren't a thing.1) The RTS genre is not as popular as shooters and RPGs. Popularity equals potential higher profits.2) Outside Korean insects playing Starcraft for esports reasons, RTS games are mainly played for the singleplayer experience. Singleplayer games bring less long term profits than multiplayer games unless you've cornered a spot llike Paradox did.3) Disney bought the IP to sell toys. You gotta think every step on the way as "how do I sell more toys?". Jedi toys would sell more than an average faceless trooper toy. As shown in EAW, it revolves more around anything but said Jedi/hero characters.4) Disney, toys, toys toys toys.
I reinstalled this game recently and BOY it did not age well.When I was a kid I didn't realize how non-existent the enemy AI is.
>>1603734Really? EaW was like the posterboy for>set to easy, the enemy doesn't fight back>set it anything higher, it becomes a 200 IQ gigabrain tactician.
>>1603591>Disney is churning out nostalgiabait>this somehow means the IP is NOT gatekept by a rabid greedy corporate entitykys retard, stop posting.
>>1603568>implying Disney isn't at faultThey effectively took a horse with a sore hoof and decided to turn into into a quadruple amputee before bashing it's head in with a comically large mallet.
>>1604245Disney is responsible for the state SW is in now, but they're also the reason it hasn't completely faded into obscurity, by making endless nostalgia bait shit like Ahsoka and Kenoba and Boba Fett. It's like if you beat someone up so hard they fall into a coma, but then you're also the one paying to keep the doctors from pulling the plug.
NOW HEAR THIS, NOW HEAR THIS - ur a faget
>>1602636>modern devs wont update modern(relatively) games to 64bit>17 year old game gets itfuckkkk
>>1604405>ALL HANDS MAN YOUR BAITSTATIONS
>>1604470EaW is getting a very special treatment from EA and I don't know why.
>>1603410It's pretty simple. The folks directing these decisions are so far removed from gaming that they're only looking at pie graphs and statistic data saying what genre returns the most on investment. That's the one they pick, 100% of the time.Imagine explaining to major shareholders with no connection to gaming whatsoever that you've made the business decision to spend more money producing a product that you know will target a smaller target market and return less profit. You could argue a million reasons for why filling a niche might be good for brand image, generate positive publicity and brand recognition, grow the IP and have the potential to snowball into a highly profitable success--but none of those things mean anything to folks who lack any sort of context or emotional attachment and just want to see your stock value go up so they can sell and make a 12% return instead of an 11% return.And for developers that may see the potential in filling the niche, the simple truth is that buying a license to use the IP is too expensive to be practical. Most 4x/strategy developers are small studios working on thin margins and simply can't afford that kind of down payment.Plus big strategy games are a genre stuck in the past. The esports push failed spectacularly; these are decidedly singleplayer games, but their singleplayer experience hasn't really grown or improved since the 90s. Games still struggle with snowballing action economy and resources that make earlygame challenging but lategame trivial and tedious, they still struggle with AI that has to be braindead stupid to avoid causing performance issues, they still struggle with exponential growth causing unavoidable scalability issues lategame. The genre in general is about half a game that's mirrored to fill in the other half, and as soon as you reach that second half you realize you were tricked and there's no game here.
>>1604515I think something like Stellaris but Star Wars would sell like crazy, problem is that both Paradox and EA are far too Jewish to work with each other.
>>1604503Probably the cheapest way to gauge a possible interest in a new game.
>>1604530That's what I thought too but they started updating it like 4 years ago and all nothing's been announced since then.
>>1604503>EAEA don't even have SW exclusivity anymore, nor did they publish EaW (LucasArts did, so Disney), what the fuck do they have to do with anything?
>>1603410>the fact that nobody is jumping onto the obvious hole in the market that is an new SW grand strategy games baffles meActually, a couple developers are trying to make Star Wars strategy games. They're just so early in development that there hasn't been much revealed.
>>1604737I though they still had the exclusive right to SW vidya, my bad. My bad.
>>1604503Petroglyph keeps supporting it because it's still one of their most profitable games.
>>1604782Was about to mention that they should just make an expansion, but then I remembered that it'd 100% be Disneyshit.
>>1604799Licensing would also be a struggle. Updating an existing game's internal mechanics isn't the same as creating new content for it (which is effectively a new product on a presumably-expired license).
>>1604812I guess that is true. Goddamn, why did Star Wars have to become such a cursed franchise?
>>1604845Normalfags, and redditlettermedia watching idiots kept shitting on George Lucas, so he sold the bitch to the jews.
Here's a good video explaining the patch and its implications for the game and modshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sxcREKok4Y
>>1602758>>1602778>rebels in AotRThere is a ton to unpack desu and I'd have to play them again to checks things.Sell the job Cannons and other defenses around Hoth and Mon Calamari.You should have enough ships in the north to get the MonCal bufferzone. Maybe you'll need an additional MC80 or MC75, certainly if you take Mandalore too.It is the most important mission simply because you get Ackbar and his Home One which is super powerful. But make a safe before you take the last planet because you need to do a mission afterwards.If you get Mon Mothma to Mon Calamari afterwards you will get free ships for a few weeks as a gift.At the start Bespin is undefended and your start fleet in the south west is sufficent to take Bakura, the battle map has a capturable destroyer.The Bakuran destroyers are decent combat ships and allow you to ignore enemy interdictors. That allows you to make use of your shorter, ca.6 second, retreat timer and just run away after doing some damage.Sluis Van can be left undefended, the space battle map has a capturable capital ship and 2 dreadnoughts on the right side.You can try to hold the planets bordering the core and build Ion Cannons and co but that will be very expensive, some people fall back and leave Kashyyk open, the ground map is awful as attacker, to bleed the Empire there.Yavin 4, Bespin, Ord Ibanna and Zhar are the only tibanna gas sources, 3 of which are in the south west, and you can't build mines. Zhar is also relevant for the Death Star story line and turning into the New Republic.If you take Sullust, which is needed for the Quasar, you get a mission to take Eriadu, after taking the latter Naboo and Malastare should revolt and switch to you.Make heavy use of your infiltrators, their tech is cheaper and you can already build Vehicle Saboteurs and Kota's Militia Taskforce.The Assault Frigates are pretty good at the and can't lose their engines afaik.
What's the trick to learning AotR? I tried the empire tutorial, but got my ass kicked by the Kashyyk land battle.
Am I just retarded or does pic related suck complete ass?
>>1607318They are good for scouting and running over dudes. I think that they are also better against vehicles than AT-STs.
>>1607323But they melt so fast.
>launch the game>there's icons of fleet, look like i can drag them to desired position>nothing happened>well, mb fleet need general to move. Click to some icons of generals>they all sit on planets and there's no menu to load them on ship>so need to play tutorial at first>but i hate tutorials so just alt+f4Sad.
>>1607330Nigga just double click the planet and drag and drop units where you want them. To move a unit on the campaign map, again, just drag and drop.
>>1607328Of course, they are the first vehicle that isn't a scout bike.
>>1607330do zoomies and alphas really?!
>>1607367brown people have acted like that much longer than gen z or alpha have been alive.
>>1607151What was your issue with the land battle i.e what happened in detail?What forces did you bring?Just did the tutorial and not sure if it is that great for beginners desu, it lacks any explanation of debuffs, buffs, armor, weapon types etc..
Bro wtf these Howitzers hurt.
>>1607473That is what >>1607318are for
>>1607474Ah, so they're primarily used for their suicide ability, gotcha.
>>1607496Well timed kamitiezes can destroy whole armies.
>>1607516Understood, ty.
Expanding Fronts style Allstars mod when?Just don't do what EF did and add Disneytrash before a bunch of Legends content
>>1607341>To move a unit on the campaign map, again, just drag and dropNigga just try to read.>there's icons of fleet, look like i can drag them to desired position>nothing happened
>>1603410>Feel the same way about LOTR, by the way. The fact that most of the fandom is still playing BfmE and Medieval 2 mods is insane to me.God, I don't care if they never make a new one, but just fucking put BFME1/2 up on steam and update them to 64 bit, that's all I ask. Yes I know that's license renegotiation, I don't care.
>>1607762Nigga, unpause the game, then drag and drop.
>>1607821Also possible that he started the campaign and isn't doing what the game tells him to.
>>1607671I wanted to make a Naboo and Gungan Civ ala SWGB for FOC. if I had ever figured out how to make the civ not autolose after two galactic days and how to make them capture cap points on planets, then I would probably been working on a FoC:GB mod at this very moment.
>>1607671Disneytrash is poison to SW, it baffles me that anyone would add it anywhere.
>>1607382I built two juggernauts to escort my stormtroopers to the coast and they got annihilated by turbolaser towers before they could secure a landing zone.
>>1607374are the brown people in the thread with us right now? Only whites play strategy games.
>>1608112>Only whites play strategy games.Come on now. Gookcraft is a thing, chinks love red alert 2, and slavs play many strategy games.
>>1608091Ah, that sounds like a composition issue, juggernauts are only good against infantry and light vehicles.When dealing with towers and emplaced enemies as the empire you have few options.Scout Troopers:>have an ability to reveal FoW, if you have a fleet in orbit you can simply wait until a abonb run or orbital bombardment is availableArtillery:>AT-DT or SPMAT to shoot them from a safe distance.Infantry:>Anti-Armor Stormtroopers and Shocktroopers are capable of harming buildings>turbolaser and bunker turrets can't do much against them but they are vulnerable against any anti-infantryAT-ATs:>good health and armor to just slug it out>standard AT-ATs are better against infantry and lighter vehicles>Elite AT-ATs have better range, health and heavier weapons they're just bad against lighter vehiclesSwarms of lighter vehicles always work well too, although you will suffer some attrition. For example massing AT-STs, especially the rocket variant. The 2M repulsor tank is pretty effective too although In the campaign you can also always rely on Vader and Veers, those guys are busted. When the former attacks turrets and vehicles they can't shoot and the latter has good range and damage.
>>1608127Makes sense. Seems I just have to try again but with a siege mindset.
>>1608123gookclick is not a strategy game, it's an action/arcade game.bugs aren't human anyway.
>>1608123So it's mainly whites.
>>1608145>US CensusI don't trust those assholes to know the difference between an abo and an african.
>>1608144>gookclick is not a strategy game, it's an action/arcade game.???
>>1608156Don't feed the shitposters, newfag.
>>1603379>Empire at War Remake was also somewhat relevant in the past although I personally can't stand playing it. Feels like an AAA studio made a remake.I play it because its the only mod I can find that has stuff like CIS Holdouts(and with a submod you can play as them)
>>1608184The Thrawn's Revenge/Fall of the Republic team is working on a Galactic Civil War-era mod called Imperial Reign. The lead dev mentioned that there's gonna be CIS holdouts and some mentions of Imperial splinter groups akin to Republic loyalists.
>>1608202Yeah but I assume they won't be playable and function like minors do plus that mod ain't gonna be out for years
>>1608209Hopefully there'll be a submod for it, at the very least
>>1604515This is the most thoughtfull explanation of why I can't stand strategy games in general, despite that in theory it should be my favorite genre.Do you have a recommendation for a game that is actually good?wq
>>1608225Victoria 2 has a good end game. But it doesn't have real time battles.
>>1608143>try again but with a siege mindset.In that case yes, if you can't rush to a point before they've finished building you can always wait for bombing runs those work in every situation.There is always some kind of tools you have for each situation in the mod.The issue with the tutorial is that it just lacks information on how combat works.>>1608184Fair, CIS and republic remnants during the GCW are pretty neat but that isn't enough for me to make the mod playable.There is just way too much about it that I can't stand.
>>1608202Aren't they also finishing a KotOR era mod too?
>>1608279Revan's Revenge, yeah.
>>1608266At least for me my brain is just wired to want a variety of factions to play asDoes anyone know that one mod where during battles random events like other factions appearing or civilians evacuating can occur? I can't seem to remember what it was
>>1608333Thrawn's Revenge had, past tense, third party fleets that could show up from time to time.AotR still has stuff like enemy convoys passing through or independent smugglers joining you, well and other custom battle scenarios for some maps.The latter is also a thing in Age of Legends afaik.
>>1608145>Sudan>white
>>1608340thanks, that shit is among the coolest most immersive thing I've seen modders do for a game, especially for Star Wars
>>1604851I hate how RLM gets scapegoated for this as if the prequels didn't collectively traumatize all of Gen X and they just never had the balls to say it until some internet videos did. No, the Prequels were shit on from day 1 by that generation, RLM just summarized what people had been saying for a decade at that point and saying how it relates to story structure.
Good morning, I love lucrehulks, I LO the CSA, I love Thrawn's revengeI appreciate how incredibly screenshot friendly this game is.
>>1608692>I appreciate how incredibly screenshot friendly this game is.It is isn't it?
Do you let your SSDs touch each other inapproperiately without protection?
>>1608550A lot of text to just say you're retarded anon.
What is your favorite mod anons? I remember there being like a dozen overhauls but I barely remember anything outside the remake, which by itself seems split now
>>1608350Rightful Egyptian land. SSAs are little more than squatters there, and have been since bronze age.
>>1608855For me, it's Thrawn's RevengeThe visuals and the scale are great, and most factions being smaller makes it much less of a headache to wrap your head around. Fall of the Republic is a close second.
>>1608855For me it's still AotR, although I always liked basically all of the old steiner mods.I was unhappy with 2.9 but either the later updates made space combat better again or I just got used to it.
What's the difference between Republic at War and Fall of the Republic?
>>1608906>What's the difference between Republic at War and Fall of the Republic?What isn't?RaW is comparatively close to vanilla in style and development has only recently resumed it's mostly still in the state of 2017 and as a consequence somewhat "outdated", i.e. old models, vanilla pathfinding, less AI changes, less scripts etc.FotR is simply newer and builds on the design of Thrawn's Revenge. It has more new mechanics added, infrastructure, corporations, ship crews, damage tracking for SSDs, government mechanics etc.
Not my game but it's always good to see old games receive some love, especially when they still have an active community.
>>1608783If you don't perform (non-functional) ramming maneuvers with an SSD, what are you doing with your life?
>>1608949>Jew got cancelled for being anti-SemiticBobby Fisher was built different.
Is Sins of a Solar Empire similar to EaW? It's on sale at the moment and the gameplay kinda looks like EaW's.
>>1609245Not from what little I have played, but it is supposed to be a good game in its own right.
>>1609260Yeah just checked and it's a lot more traditional RTS than I thought it would be. Shame.
>>1608966I wonder if it would even be possible for a mod to add proper ramming mechanics.The Holdo maneuver even
>>1609550>rammingI bet you could hack something together by giving the ship a melee weapon, like jedi, but shit would be janky as fuck, especially with ship collision and pathfinding.
>>1608692Lucherhulks are literally my favorite SW ship. Which mod has the best lucherhulks?
>>1609828Fall of the republic, probablyThere are like 4 different variantsThey are incrediblg tanky and carry gorillions of vultures.
How would you fix land battles in a potential sequel?
>>1609550>The Holdo maneuver evenEasy, just steal the single unit retreat code from EAX and make it an ability that targets a shit and does a brazillion in AOE damage.
>>1609903>How would you fix land battles in a potential sequel?I would turn the land battles into Dawn of War's Dark Crusade/Soulstorm Campaign; Star Wars skin edition.The land units that you make out of battle would all be more "elite", or honour guard like in DOW:DC/SS.
>>1603406>they didn't fuck up Brood War remasteredthey fucked up most of the portraits
>>1609903Make the maps not be corridors, add proper cover mechanics, add more cool formation stuff, make ships in orbit do more than just bombing runs, allow me to siege planets and stave them out.
>>1609903Make it more about army maneuvers for planetary subjugation than small-scale skirmish matches. Space battles are great because they feel like battles between large, organized fleets. In contrast, land battles rarely feel like I'm trying to take a planet.However, if you would keep the skirmish battle system, I think the other anons raise good points.
>>1609550>proper ramming mechanics= proper collision physics, this is game engine shit, not going to happen by the hands of even the most powerful autists like corey>>1609775it would look and feel like shit>>1609920at best you could try to do something like this, but imo that's gay and underwhelming. Space battles would just turn into NOTHIN PERSONNEL through capital ships 24/7
>>1609925I think you could make a compromise between those two. Have skirmishes on smaller worlds, but then on highly developed planets, like Coruscant for example, you would have to fight multiple battles to gain full control.
>>1609928>coreySpeaking of the EAWX team, I find it fascinating how their dev team is like 90% trannies, and they are making the best damn mod in this game without inserting their deranged identities into it.What is it about the big space triangles that appeals to the lgbtqbraaaaaap+?
>>1609957Autistic nerds are most vulnerable to groomers.
>>1609957I guess that Corey and his old friends are great tard-wranglers. Corey is also a shitlib so any opposition to the tranners will get you kicked out so hard, you will be orbiting the sun independently.
>>1609966Considering he's mentioned doing work for his local Trudeau campaign office years ago, that isn't surprising
>>1609957>What is it about the big space triangles that appeals to the lgbtqbraaaaaap+?less that and more that trooning out is like crack for nerds for some reason
>>1609966>>1609984The EAWX discord logo is the troon conqueror flag from pride month until Halloween usually. The first year he did it he made a big announcement after people complained, did the whole "Star Wars is for 'everyone'" speech and told people who disagreed to leave, then proceeded to ban people when they wouldn't leave. Since then I just block people whenever I'm browsing EAWX news and see someone going on about culture war shit in the EAWX channels.
>>1610098You won't be blocking me though :)
>>1610098same story warhammer and battletech went through. Probably the same exact people who just travel between sci-fi fandoms doing purity tests on the communities and then kicking out people that refuse
>>1610098I've been a Star Wars fan since the age of 7. I also hate trannies. Star Wars is for me, too.
>>1610111It's amazing how much people try to justify the fact that they grew up with the prequels and that they have neat ideas somehow overrides the shit execution. I mean I know it's just a shitpost image, but still
>>1610119The picture isn't too much of a strech when one of the complaints about E1 used to be "Too much politics".
>>1610129The complaint about Episode 1 wasn't that there were too much politics, it's that there were too much politics and said politics were fucking stupid.
>>1610119I think its partly that people now only see all the good stuff the prequels introduced, and forget what the movies themselves were actually like.
>>1610111bad bait
>>1610170Hownew.ru?
>>1610163Maybe in your head, but most what I saw outside of 4chang was just "too much politics" and that it was not understandable.Also no, the politics were fine.
>>1610119I have such vivid memories of going with my family to see The Phantom Menace in theatres downtown after being reared on the original trilogy. I'll never forget the whole family just sitting in awkward silence in the restaurant afterwards, dumbfounded. Even as a clueless child I knew I had just witnessed the death of a beloved franchise.
>>1610181>Even as a clueless child I knew I had just witnessed the death of a beloved franchise.
>>1609903Remove capture points: you have one fuck-you-huge landing zone at the start that's secured and fortified, complete with turbo lasers and AA to deter the defenders from rushing your position. Defenders can still overrun the landing zone, and doing so is an automatic victory, so the attackers can't get TOO cocky.Attackers can pre-deploy units before the fight starts and the attacker unit cap is raised to 20; defenders are still locked to 10 but have factories and barracks that produce infinite units but each can only deploy 1 squad on the field at once. All planets come with a default defense of AA and shielding so that attacking players don't just camp with bombing runs and orbital bombardment, these defenses have energy stations that can be destroyed to knock them out. Note that these AA and shield defenses do not extend to near the attacker's landing zone, another reason not to try zerg rushing them.Planets that have had their AA and shielding knocked out can be forced into a surrender if the attacking fleet size is large enough, on threat of death by turbo laser fire. This makes commando raids rewarding, though still difficult.
>>1610232One of my least favorite aspects of ground battles is the infinite squad production of buildings.It often just devolves into a check of if I brought enough reinforcements to drown them in bodies before they can whittle down my forces with their stupid respawns.
>>1610181OT purists are retards
>>1610232This would be a good change but you'd also need to make the maps way bigger and less cramped. Having 20 units on the map at the same time is a nightmare in vanilla, units get stuck constantly, unless you're using nothing but infantry. The ground maps in general are awful in this game, they're like a moba's, I'd prefer flat plains so I could actually surround the enemy.
Remove the fucking ground combat entirely.
>>1610472Committing wacrimes by burning homes with AT-STs is fun, I don't want them to be removed entirely.
>>1609957it was easier to turn it autists into women than it was to turn women into it autists
>>1610508So what you're saying is that Disney is sissifying weak men to increase the female percentage of Star Wars fans?
>>1610517by IT Autists i meant the autistic guys in IT that get work done. turning them into women is for getting more women into IT for esg quota.
>>1610119I think it started off as an irony, but retards couldn't see that so it morphed into whatever the fuck it is now. See MLP for details
Post your favorite units from EaW or its mods
>>1610488I wouldn't mind if it wasn't for the gay infinitely respawning enemies on hostile planets. I have no idea whether to try to hold a chokepoint or rush down the enemy.
>>1610776Land battles are all search and destroy missions in vanilla.That said, some mods (like EaWX) let you fight siege battles and win through chokepoints. It's downright necessary if trying to take capital planet Coruscant, for instance.
>>1610776>if it wasn't for the gay infinitely respawning enemies on hostile planetsque? I don't remember them being infinite, not even neutral humans siding with one faction
>>1610816Nta but I think they might have been infinite with buildings constantly replacing destroyed garrison is given enough time.Afaik EaWX had this for quite some time too.
>>1611317It's the reason why I personally bounced off Republic at War. At least when I played it a while back, the amount of forces needed to conquer a single planet was ridiculous, just to grind down those endless waves spawning from buildings and space stations.At least in EaWX mods there is a cap on how many higher level ships a space station can spawn in a battle. Still a problem in ground combat though.
>>1611388>At least in EaWX mods there is a cap on how many higher level ships a space station can spawn in a battleand I still find it bullshit that a high level space station can spawn an entire second garrison out of thin air. You set out to defeat 350pop fleet only to arrive at 600pop with hyperspace prevention ships
>>1611826I mean, it's kinda understandable, high level dockyards are a big investment.Personally, I prefer to camp at the edge of the map, and let them come to me.Since the retarded AI will just rush you, their smaller ships will reach your formation much sooner than the big ones, and you can kill them before engaging the big beef.
>>1604515>since the 90sI'd argue Warcraft 3's campaigns had substantial innovations to the formula that were never really followed up on by Blizzard or anyone else.
>>1610180>the politics were fine>Republic is simultaneously powerless and capable of forcing a giant megacorp to pay taxes >Megacorp's response to these taxes is to... blockade and invade a random planet >Also they're doing this at the behest of some creepy dude who has promised them nothing tangible and who they have no reason whatsoever to trust >Palpatine for his part flip-flops so much that at points it appears he actually wants his plan to fail and he comes out of it looking more like a lucky retard than an evil genius
>>1611903>Republic is simultaneously powerless and capable of forcing a giant megacorp to pay taxesIt is the same thing as the truckers in canada, the farmers in the netherlands, and other similar protests and private blockades. The opening crawl states that the senate finds the development to be troubeling (as they have battleships), but are bogged down with discussions, this is probably the most realistic part of the whole franchise. The first thing Nute Gunray says in the movie is "Yes, of course. As you know our blockade is perfectly legal, and we would be happy to recive ambassadors", with not a single character disagreeing, disputing, or mumbeling "bullshit" under their breath.>Megacorp's response to these taxes is to... blockade and invade a random planetThe Megacorp blockading a planet (it wasn't fucking random you trog) is in protest of the taxes they were being hit with (again see truckers ect), the dude that got them to both invade and to blockade Naboo was Naboo's representative to the senate, it is explicitly clear to anyone who isn't a fucking brainlet that he was clearly offering them huge consessions.When he tells them that they have to accelerate their plans to invade, he is asked; "My lord, is that legal?" and he answers with "I will make it legal", Nute Gunray knew who he was dealing with (he calls him Lord Sidious), especially when Maul in introduced with the line "not for a Sith".>Also they're doing this at the behest of some creepy dude who has promised them nothing tangible and who they have no reason whatsoever to trustYou not sitting in on Nute and sheevy p.'s planning sessions don't fucking matter for a conflict that we join in media res.>Palpatine for his part flip-flops so much that at points it appears he actually wants his plan to fail and he comes out of it looking more like a lucky retard than an evil geniusWhat?
>>1603410Star wars is for girls now.
>>1611388I know FoTR the ground battles are massive because they wanted to emulate the giant war scenes from the movies/comics/books. It's also because Corey really hates ground battles too so he has to make others suffer
>>1612017The only thing he hates more is the Nebula.
>>1610181I didn't have that experience at all, I went with my older brother opening night, and we had basically the same thought coming out of the movie (I was 12, he was 22).>It was okay...I guess?And when we went to AotC it was>Well that was better than the first oneAnd yes, I know AotC is by far the worst non-sequel movie, but that was something people didn't think of until we actually paid attention to the movie and instead were just wowed by Obi-Wan fighting Boba Fett's dad and the big battle at the movie's end.
>>1612047>AotC is by far the worst non-sequel movieThat's Solo now,But I also think AotC is overhated. Yes, the dialogue can be cringeworthy, but the overall story is good and it has good pacing, with a blend of fun action scenes and political intrigue.
>>1612235I count the disney spinoff stuff under the sequels. And the main problem with AotC is every character except for Obi-Wan is written terribly, both in dialog and characterization.
I never understood this mindset that something having politics in it elevates the work and makes it more complex. That shouldn't matter if the politics are absolutely braindead and by the end of the trilogy are just a cheap snipe at Bush-era America and the Patriot Act. It's not saying deep or meaningful, it's not trying to be LoGH or something where it's arguing the philosophical nature of politics and what the state's role in society is, it's just pointing at something irl and going, "SEE, IT'S JUST LIKE THIS THING I DISAGREE WITH", something people here constantly bitch about whenever a blatantly left-wing work does it. It's the work of a hack regardless of which side does it, this shit is why Tolkien disagreed with using allegory, preferring to put appilicability in his works where an intent is there, but how you interpret a scene shouldn't depend on what the intent was.
>>1612446Strategy video games?
>>160995790% is an exaggeration but one of the main modelers is I know and barely posts outside their autistically detailed recreations of characters and ships, maybe the hobby just incentivizes people to not be deranged about it.
>>1612585It better not be Interial, he seems like a cool dude in the RPs.
>>1612446>LoGH>DeepYeah, it's deep compared to American media which treats it's audience like mentally disabled children even in films where it asks you to think.
>>1612446and yet the entire point of the original 6 films were completely lost on kathleen kennedy, disney execs and 8 billion retards on the planet. Trans clones ftw! Black lives matter!
It's out bros.Apparently with the same pathfinding improvements for ground battles like they did for space.
>>1612446Order 66 being the Patriot Act seems a bit far fetched to me.
>>1612446Isn't Palpatine based on Nixon?I mean, I actually think George Lucas was off in his assessment of Nixon. Not to say I think he's some great president, but people tend to very much misunderstand the guy and what his actual role in American history was. Either way, despite feeling VERY bush era I do think the prequels are mostly timeless. Not good, but mostly timeless.
>>1612432I also just find it easily the most confused movie, people rag on the Phantom Menace for having vague politics (Well, actually, they just dislike it has politics a lot of the time), but AoTC is even worse in that regard. It's basically never established why the separatists are bad. While that is arguably somewhat intentionally, the way it's framed just doesn't work for me.
>>1609903I think Dawn of War does a decent job showing how it could be done. There are other approaches, but those are way more challenging.
>>1607770But anon, Warner Brothers new has Lord of the Ring games to sell.Not sure what games, but I'm sure they exist somewhere.
>>1613137Is it good?
>>1604515>Plus big strategy games are a genre stuck in the past. I sadly kind of agree. Mind you, I never considered RTS actual strategy games. It doesn't help that it's also still very profitable so there is little incentive to try and innovate in a major way. See Total War or Paradox.>the simple truth is that buying a license to use the IP is too expensive to be practicalWarhammer seems to be the exception and that's mostly because GW, for all of their flaws, has a "Just have it, we don't care" approach. >>1611839I still think Starcraft 2 had the best campaign. Warcraft 3 did do a lot of interesting things, though in the process it also accidentally killed RTS by creating Mobas.
>>1613228RTS in the traditional way, with base building and such is dead because no one wants that anymore. People want RTS with turn based campaigns. There's still plenty of interest in RTS combat itself.
>>1613206No he's clearly a Drumpgf reference
>>1603379>Empire at War Remake was also somewhat relevant in the past although I personally can't stand playing it. Feels like an AAA studio made a remake.What do you dislike about it? I picked up the game again after not playing it for 4 or 5 years and i'm finding it pretty decent. My only complaint is that the campaign feels kind of slow (at least with my playstyle) because increasing my income takes a while, and my planets feel very defenseless if I dont leave big garrisons.
>>1603688If they want to sell more shit they gotta break new grounds.They should start selling big sets of little soldier figures and compete with the Warhammer autists, sponsor some sort of board game RPG shit
>>1613226Can't tell yet, only just dabbled with it but they have a new 190 planet GC, so +87 and optionally with the BS as minor faction. Also has more planet boni and large hyperlanes for faster movement, i.e. Hydyan Way going from the northeast, CSA territory, down to the Core eand then to the south around Eriadu.>>1613283>What do you dislike about it?Ultimately I probably just can't stand the mod's core philosophy.I'm somewhat going by memory, haven't touched the ground combat for ages desu.>teaching up is near worthless becaus eit also techs up the AI>as in you pay for them to advance too>player has a substantially worse starting economy/AI has autoresolve boni>starting forces are pretty bad for expanding without attrition.>quite a few defense stations need a large force to destroy them>ship upkeep only makes this worse>fighter attrition cost severely fucks over carriers making most worthless if they have no swarm>similarly fucks over stations that spawn fighters when defending>even worse because the AI doesn't have to care about it>incentivizes you to play optimal and gamey so the AI doesn't just snowball and constantly send fleets at you>like parking ships over enemy planet so they eat your upkeep>pathfinding is vanilla tier and your ships tend to split up or do retarded turns>camera zoom and lighting really mess with the players ability process information, as in it looks pretty but you can't see shit>ground combat lacks depth>attacker starts with only 2 regiments>by the time you can call the third the battle si almost over>similarly with bombardment/bombing run>artillery shots cost cash>the mixed regiment concept generally doesn't work too well>units lose their control group in transports>special infantry lacks time to get in position as attackerI might actually recall more reasons later but that's the gist of it.Feels like a very un"fun" of going for a "hard" gameplay.
>>1613137The problem with this mod is an issue with the game itself. You cant set fleets and armies to move in GC when the game is paused. This is super annoying since GC is real time and the AI obviously doesn't have an issue with it.
>>1613335You can't do that in Vanilla either. You can issue build commands while paused but that's it.
>>1613339Nvm you literally said that in your post. I've been awake for way too long, I can't even read no more.
>>1613211>It's basically never established why the separatists are badthey invade planets and overthrow local governments loyal to the republic, then instill own regimes enforced by legions of battle droids. They also shoot the jedi diplomats in the opening scene of the movie. Do you really need more setup for american goyslop cinema?
>>1613228>Warhammer seems to be the exceptionWarhammer licenses are given out to third world nobodies for peanuts. Games Workshop treats these games as digitial advertisements for their plastic shit. It's a completely different situation
>>1603688>Jedi toys would sell more than an average faceless trooper toy.yeah that's totally why there's 48572071940 different clone trooper types and original individual clones with unique personality and 878942598813489 clone trooper toys and lego sets and other kinds of useless merch shit
>>1613411This. God I love pre-Yidsney Star Wars armor designs.
>>1613137>Mod updates right in time to try it outNice.I've gotten decently far into an Empire campaign (story mode on normal difficulty), and I have mixed feelings about it.The early game feels really swingy because your economy is just not there yet, and you're just trying to set it up. Losing a single hero feels like a long, slow game over because you can get overwhelmed by the enemy. Once your economy is running, though, it feels a bit too easy. I can pump out ISDs at a rate the AI can't deal with.Battles feel great overall, with ships having distinct roles and feeling very different. I prefer them overall to Empire at War expanded, since they feel more in-depth. They're hurt by the campaign's early economy, and I dislike how you have to rush tech as the empire if you don't want to get fucked over by starfighters. Raider corvettes and lancers trivialize space battles where you have any Star Destroyers.Land battles are also fun, though I think heroes are too squishy.
>>1603688Toys and star wars rides. The old theater in a shuttle star wars ride was pretty popular.
Which mod has the best ground combat?
>>1613409Didn't it work like this before Disney? Coincidentally that was the best era of SW video games.
>>1613918awakening of the rebellion and it's not even close from what I've tried of other mods
>>1613941Lucas Arts made and published video games.GW and Disney don't, they just license the whole shebang out to whoever can afford their prices, and don't step on their toes.
>>1613941Nah pre-Disney all the games were made in-house under Lucas' supervision.
