>>1552515after crying about goering's one, I don't think so
>>1552517At this point we really need a new TNOredux now considering the state of this mod is going for where devs keep boring shits one after the another while holding interesting contents behind the shelf. I know that there had been an attempt before and how badly that went but who can say that we can’t do it the second time? I think we really need to keep the Redux content small at first and then expand it. First content should be focus on no content russian warlords since that’s the main area where you can easily fill stuff with then move to Burgundy’s rework, Glenn Presidency, African Adios + Muller / Wolfgang / Boer and Collapse.
>>1552554I personally think that African contents could be legitimately be a nice starting point if it’s not russia since there’s not much content going for any of the nations while you can pull up wacky stuff in the collapse or go full nazi TND victory with Han Huttig. Burgundy is absolutely should be major point for the redux because I think that Game master Burgundy spy state is interesting. Maybe hitler granted himmler a state exlsuively for countering CIA/Kenpeitei? which would justify them existing, and Germany still a major superpower despite them being in a civil war since that “Master of Europe” role went to Burgundy temporary.
>>1552554>>1552556There is nothing stopping you or any interested parties from recruiting a team and beginning development.
>the endingit's kino.
>>1552634KINO, POST THE FULL DOC
>>1552517They deserve it, you should know that us the dev team will never condone any form of genocide mechanics in our mod.
>>1552645...which is why Goering got a full rework in the first place.
Hilarious to see how bad you want this tranny fantasy mod to succeed because it's currently the closest thing to a /pol/ wet dream mod yet.Reminder that if these fags weren't trying to stick to realistic endings given TNO scenario, every path at the right of Sablin would end in a failstate.>w-we'll j-just make a redux!!!This time will surely work!
Man, I think I fucked America so hard in this game this happened.
>>1552645Which is why Turkey has ethnicity pie charts and lets you TURKIFY ALL THE THINGS, right? Or is it not genocide when brown people do it?
>>1552713the guy who brought up the idea is a brown tranny so there's not much surprise there
>>1552713turks aren't brown retard
>>1552634Post the full doc coward
>>1552556>CIA/KenpeiteiThe Kempeitai isn't a japanese CIA, retard. You want to make a redux when you don't even know such a basic thing?
End game result with Kaya, I swear if Japan had some path to solve the Oil Crisis I could have gotten a bigger GDP than the US.
>>1552771Did I miss any country?
>>1552771Next patch will add OC trees for Japan
>>1552776Thank you Anon! Can't wait for it.
>>1552771Iberian regional splintersMorocco can get bigger if they defeat TrarzaColombiaRomaniaItalian East AfricaFrance (Italy Aligned)The last 3 assuming Italy is in the CPS of course
>>1552784Oh and Iraq should have Kurdistan instead of Turkey
>>1552784Damn so the regional splinters can get aligned to Japan if you support them? I didn't know that.The Rif republic can include Trarza?Colombia is such a gambit and I have never seen AI Italy manage to get East Africa sadly.
>>1552789>The Rif republic can include Trarza?I think so.>Colombia is such a gambit Just use CCP>and I have never seen AI Italy manage to get East Africa sadlyThey only do it if they go neofascist
>>1552771>>1552784dem italy can also puppet saudi arabia through their focus tree
>>1552796>>1552791Thank you Anons, will try another game after the update, so far I think one of the biggest goals i have is to get a bigger GDP than the US while not going into >100% of debt balance, managed to get pretty close but I think as soon as we get the Oil Crisis tree it will be much easier.
>>1552515opinion on competitive HOI4?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ep__9CHG8
>>1552645> how dare the nazis act like nazis
Warning to thread-goers; the OP "Lance" may be TNO dev Lancewielder who had involvement in the Kiwifarms drama two years ago.
They removed the associate status because it's inevitably gonna be taken out of steam and they don't want to take any chances with steam
>>1552573are you going to refrain from mass reporting the mod when it releases?
Long live Prime Minister Konoe and the New OrderLong live the Emperor and Co-Prosperity between East Asians
>>1552554If people want a TNO redux go back to the last stable update, stabilize it, then slowly integrate good content like Ireland and Guadong
>>1552634>still isnt posting it
>The only way to survive is to build up China and the more you build up China the more they use your money to make guns to kill you and every single one of your puppets has huge insurgencies you need to try and deal with oh and btw the Army and Navy both have independent nuclear stockpiles and hate one another and are sponsoring foreign insurgencies in places like Australia without your permission and the liberals are getting antsy and planning on shooting the Emperor and the fascists are pissy and planning on shooting the Emperor and the Communists are being funded by America and planning on shooting the Emperor and your enemies won't leave you the fuck alone because America is all about this cold war nonsense and you just want them to fucking go away and if you abandon the treaty ports then the Army and Navy will revolt but if you don't America might invade and the only way to run the ports is to let American workers in but they keep coming in with explosive vests and Germany keeps talking about invading you and Russian warlords keep raiding your colonies like the Mongols and the Chinese warlords are still fucking killing your men and eachothers even though they keep saying they're loyal to you.whoa, Panzer, I kneel...
>>1552893This is what Panzerists unironically call soul.
>>1552893>>1552909Yes. Let me suffer, damnit.
>>1552893sounds pretty realistic ngl aside from the facists planning on killing the emperor
New 2wrw roadmap
>>1552734turks are brown you disgusting swarthy ESL
>>1552893Sorry, /vstards/ neu TNO is 100% better than whatever this is.
>>1552951Looks pretty kino ngl. I wish there were more mods like it.I don’t know why mainline TNO dislikes 2WRW.
>>1552977bc it's a power fantasy
>>15529772WRW is the lamest, shitty researched submod that’s boring and shoves down blue Sablin down your throat.
>>1552951I'm actually kinda excited about petlin, I think there's great potential there
>>1552951>tukachevsky>petlin>batov>omsk>werbellVGH...will they be up to '82 like novosibirsk?
what Ukraine path you all looking forward to?
>>1553007UPA (all paths)
>>1552975>A released submod is worse than unreleased shit that can't even give 2 years of ukraine content in a yearLol
>>1553000With omsk I'll imagine they'll reach thermonuclear war before the 80s, but I don't see any reason the rest couldn't, but nothings been confirmed yet
>>1552515It was over before it even began
>>1553027TNO devs when they see someone actually working on a mechanic top kek
>>1552951Anyone from the 2wrw team willing to share how long until BOTI
>>1553049Anyone with a brain already knew about this
>>15525202 weeks are 14 days THOUGHEVER
So I heard /tno/ likes skeleton content.
>>1553078>Guangdong 2.0 in Borneokino
>>1553078Any skeleton for Italy or the RKs?
>>1553078>no white raja pathOld tno would NEVER
>>1553078What the fuck is a Langkasuka
>>1553098nothing we haven't seen yet except maybe the funni abs path
still waiting for that italy git leak
>>1552515Enough leakbaiting, post fanart
>>1553126Panda the eternal canadian fuck him, kill him, destroy him, obliterate him
>>1552893what is your issue here besides the overstating of the army-navy rivalry
>>1553126All gather at the roundtable.
>>1553130upload the doc somewhere and post it
>>1552554All Italy paths, Manchukuo, Mexico, Britain, Ukraine, Iberian Wars splinters, and Brazil have active development right now
>>1553130here's the map pic linked in therenot the leaker, I just manually copied the link
>>1552977It doesn't, Chrisuam (the lead 2WRW dev) and literally works on the main mod and several devs from the main mod like Yugo also work for 2WRWThe reason they haven't been integrated is because their vision for TNO2 differs from the main mod's vision
>>1553078>the end of the rebellion in malaya begins the japanese reconstruction processbut what if the umajf wins?
How do we deal with the leaker(s)? Start banning random team members, starting with greytides and artists then to contributors, until the leaks stop
>>1553148>killing your mod to own the leaker
>>1552515Is the Heldenvolk anon in here? I was wondering if integration with main TNO is possible (after, presumably, finishing the first path etc, whatever). Have you been in touch with them? I think certainly they'll never get around to it otherwise, so it seems plausible. Hope the /vst/ posting doesn't hamper your chances, though.
QuestionSo is Jeckeln gone from ostland in the future? The same people I've seen behind the push against esonaz and Burgundy are talking about him more and more.
>>1552951>one west russia unifier>two west siberia unifiers>one central siberia unifier>two east siberia unifiers
>>1553007Shumsky. They took him out of KR so I'm going to enjoy playing him here.
>>1553130post the doc
>>1553130So the ruin and false dawn this year, Mexico and turkey next year, I can deal with that
>>1553215Guessing with the release pushed back it might be in flux but wasn't there a leak saying Brazil, Mexico and Turkey could be released this year?
>>1553215Yeah don’t forgot germany and Manchuria Q1 or Q2
>>1553217False dawn is Brazil, I think that people way overestimated the speed of development for turkey and mexico, I can't see either making a release this year>>1553221Germany in Q2 I agree, but Manchuria? Unless its very partial content there's no way they can push that for Q2.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3038320548You chuds can’t keep getting away with this. You will be found, and you will be banned.
>>1553233Wasted dubs, btw I’m not on the team.
>>1553233imma go for it, wish me luck
>>1553239well its real, scanned it and no viruses, should be good
>>1553233hey whoever keeps leaking builds are you going to post false dawn or what?
>>1553246leaker reporting. false dawn hitting steam workshop tomorrow provided i don't get bored.
>>1553233*tink tink AHEM!Excuse me ladies and gentlemen, pardon my interruption on this fine evening, but I have an announcement to make...Ahem...FUCK DEVELOPERS, FUCK REVISIONISTS, FUCK THE DISCORD, FUCK SHILLS, FUCK TRANNIES, FUCK REDDIT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FUCK TNOTRANNIES Enjoy your night ladies and gentlemen. Bloody based for whoever did this.
Tranny's New Orifice: do the devs know how many genders there are? (It's two)
>>1553248>"Leaker-Chan, I kneel."
>>1553233If it's real, Giani bros, I'm begging you, post screenshot of finished Giani trees/mechanics.
>>1553296Looked over Red Italy, actually hyped now wtf... why didn't they devote more time to this rather than unfinished Ukraine slop. Italy team is cursed to have the best content but never release
>>1553233Getting a error message
booted up the leak. Initial impressions as turkey is it runs like absolute dogshit. Turkey has a intelligence branch system where you can recruit operation leaders for bonuses. Also a seccesionist killing gui alongside basic election shit.
>>1553233Someone better save up the files before they remove it
>>1553233Surprisingly Italy actually looks good
>>1553233Any differences from the old leaked build? Can't play it rn
>>1553370It has Penelope's Web
Red Italy looks kino, with a lot of mechanical depth
>>1553419What about fash Italy?
>>1553421Balbo seems completely playable except the diplo tree (and maybe oil crisis, idk how to check)Muti's mechanic is not done it seems, but most of his focuses have effects (again, bar the fiplo and prob OC)Giani is like Balbo one of the most codedPavolini is barebones
>>1553423Thank you. Can you post something interesting from Giani/Muti? Focus trees, GUI's for mechanics.
>>1552853I make no promises
>>1553424Sure. Here's Giani's tree. Looks like an eagle. Very cool
>>1553434he abolishes the monarchy
>>1553433>>1553434>>1553436Thank you, anon.
>>1553436Muti's colonial tree (rest of his tree hasn't changed from the 2021 build, there's a video on youtube showcasing it)
>>1553441And his mechanic. It looks better than the old version but this one is completely non functional atm
>>1553443Balbo's mechanic has also recieved a visual improvement
>>1553445with projects selected
>>1553447Egypt is Oligarchic liberalism
>>1553445Any failstates for fash italy in debug options?
>>1553451no, only inauguration, main, and epilogue options for each ducedem italy has piano solo failstate and red italy has 2: hardline communist Vittorio Valdi and Reactionary coup under Randolfo Pacciardi (pic rel)
>>1553456Vittorio's treeHe's Marxist-Leninist (aka Stalinist)
>>1553457I wonder if there will be a full Vittorio path?
>>1553466Esoteric Kemalist turkey
>>1553470>>1553467Shame that they will remove esoteric nazism soon.
>>1553475it's not removed, just merged under natsoc
Kino greek industrialization mechanic
>>1553485monarchy referendum mechanic
>>1553487absolutist coup failstate
>>1553485>>1553483The fuck has greece development been doing, this still has Atlantropa in it.
>>1553496>PCdoBEven here, they haunt me.
>>1553491Greece in general has been in a sort of stasis for a while because no one wants to modernize it
>>1553496Forgot to say, factions are:-Bolshevists (yellow)-Marxist Leninists (Red)-Self-determinists (Green)-Left Internationalists (Orange)
Balbo's policy for the empire
Muti's policy for the empire
Pavolini's policy for the empire
This is all pretty great but you can tell reading the loc that atlanteuropa being removed fucked development time, as they now have to rework all of the loc and in 2023 it is still not done
Giani's policy for the empire
>>1553515I remember being told that removing Atlantropa would improve things.
>>1553515it can't take that long to read through the loc and rewrite the references to AtlantropaI'd say editing guis is harder, and they're all done except the greek ones
>>1553488Based, I hope they'll have content
>>1553527it's a failstate so I guess 100 days tree at most
>>1553528Oh, I forgot it's she/her tnotrannies
>>1553158Integrating with TNO is still the long term intent I have since I've got an interesting (and fun to play) story to tell and I'd like for as many people to experience it when it's all done rather then it just staying a submod that not everyone who plays TNO will know about.As for posting here, I'm only here to talk about Heldenvolk, i don't forsee it being a problem and if it is, I'll just leave.
kino event chain
All this Italy content is so much better than anything since Guadong, why the fuck is it not being priortized for release instead of fucking Mexico and Ukraine?
>>1553596Zelensky bribed the team to finish Ukraini...
>>1553599Well Zelensky is having to purge his military staff again rn, so he has bigger problems
>>1553602The release of TNO Ukraine is necessary to win against the eastern mongols trust the plan
>>1553596TNO has a retarded dev policy where people can work on what they want with whatever pace they want, meaning nothing gets done
>>1553607They have weekly/monthly quotas
>>1553613Then how tf did poland not get done? And why is Ukraine only 2 years of content?
>>1553607Wrong, TNO has retarded EU bureaucracy LARP where people spend most of their time making flowcharts and proposals instead of modding. It's easier to get a real job than be a fucking hoi4 modder
>>1553614dunno don't ask me
>>1553620Big if realSomeone post screenies pls I'm at work rn
>>1553620Good job leaker bro for using a alt steam account.
>>1553628just added some on the steam workshop page.
>>1553620I give my lifeNot for shilling, but for youBuild leaker
The dev server is in lockdown. Purges are happening. Multiple contribs and artists have been laid off. Doki is restricted.
>>1553636I KNEEL. You think this will effect ruin release?
>>1553636no proof didn't happen
>>1553636TNO server is Zelenskymaxxing...
>>1553636Discord jannies law is in effectRemain onlineThe TNOcord moderator corp has assumed direct controlCompilance is mandatoryLeakers will be banned
>>1553636once again the panzerites are triumphant
>>1553620AVE LEAKER-CHAN AVE FASCISMO
>>1553638Leaker-chan couldn't have leaked 6 millions builds while fighting in a two front war between TNO devs and DDDC
>>1553636Hope constant leaking eventually kills this fucking mod
>>1553653I hope not, these leaks have hyped me up
Imagine being hyped for TNO trannyshit when you could be playing Equestria at War right now
If you played the 2021 leaked build you'll have noticed that barely anything new has been added to Italy (especially fash ita). There's also weird things like references to Atlantropa still being there and the Comintern mechanic looking worse that the teased one.Makes me wonder if work is being done on a private build and then slowly added to the git for testing
>>1553620I think the files got bannedAnyone have a backup?
push the final nail into the coffin and drop EN
>>1553620Of course it happens while I'm at work, fuck me
>>1553620upload it to mega, gofile or wherever
>barely anything changed from the 2021 leakDead mod
>>1553674Bro one more flowchart, one more doc trust me, restarting France development from the beginning will be better in the long run bro
>>1553681>restarting France development from the beginning will be better in the long run brounironically
>>1553506Isn't there a whole dev team? Fillmore leads it on the discord.
>>1553536That's good, I'd love to see it! A fun OFN minor never hurts. And yeah, hopefully it's nbd but definitely err on the side of caution if need be. Gonna join your server soon, maybe.
>>1553674It might actully be the 2021 build just changed form post atlantropa borders by leaker-sama
>>1553707Did this nigga scam us
>>1553233>>1553620>first proper gameplay leak in ages>it comes out while i'm at work >it gets nuked by the time i get homedid anyone archive it?
I love cock I'm a huge faggot
>>1553711clearly not, Giani wasn't so complete in 2021
>>1553736Nah it's real. They just did FUCK ALL IN 2 YEARS
Devs posted this on twitter. Leaker-chan, care to explain what this means?https://twitter.com/TNOmod/status/1704512873915900009?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
>>1553743Performing a sweep of the dev team, any inactive contribs, artists, and greytides are being removed indiscriminately.
>>1553744>inactive contributersSo like 90% of the team? Epic
>>1553744Lol so ruin's getting delayed again
>>1553744>Constant purges to ensure loyalty>Keeping everything on lockdown to stop others from seeing what they're doingNo wonder they're getting rid of Burgundy, it reminds them too much of themselves!
>>1553747don't think so, nothing much changes if they were inactive
>>1553744An actually good thing if they're inactive
>>1553743>>1553747>>1553749>>1553754yeah, I trust that the purge is real but I doubt that twitter post is related to that.
>>1553759perhaps, but That tweet is directly quoting from the Holy Russian Empire, which implies purging.
germany git leak next please
>>1553636>NOOOOOO people can't play our mod purge everyone!!!!!
>>1553787since when leaking unfinished still in progress version of a game that is not supposed to be released yet is okay?
>everyone obsessed with proposalsIt's not a leak until it's actually released. Otherwise it's just an idea someone had and is very much subject to change.
>>1553791idc I enjoy reading them, even if they're not definitive
>>1553790since when is twiddling your thumbs and making fuckall content in 2 years okay as a dev?
>>1553784shame on the goym!
>>1553620>It's downShiet. Any archivers?
So TNO Redux Reborn, when?
You didn't miss anything worth attention, they barely added any stuff from the 2021 leaked buildsDead mod
>>1553790if i could have leaked cubeworld during the 10 year wait, i would.
I'm the one who leaked the Ruin build 09.11, I see there're some funnies are happening here. I would like to pour some shit to the fan.|| https://mega.nz/file/bBFGHZJT#a4lNsnLLzHWHG1iic5yHwgL1kK1VAE5qmT2Iqi7k2EM - Hotline Manchukuo |||| https://mega.nz/file/TIMmVBKC#939MhfLfR3G0UQdenlK0R5AY54x8lGlnSs42H8BzHhw - Illusions End |||| https://mega.nz/file/SBtSmZAD#CDYh4s4SBz3GjvBSOjOpQ4RnGgaDhnq39ehNTVFzbhs - Penelopes Web |||| https://mega.nz/file/CZt1CZwa#O0Yfzil-VqfJBwH_yuWvGkbDK5XF7DG5iM7rdO-rqdg - Germany Branch |||| https://mega.nz/file/SJ0HjDrC#jeTd9dcOuCeNpAZvrM_tFJjaSKjWLhVpSibBVqj_eWg - Shifting Tides ||Builds of July 2022 for comparison|| https://mega.nz/file/HygkhLoY#7Sqg0oeoLA22wTTZi6QUBvMBuXISE1JGsYicPwaNhY8 - Europas Narben |||| https://mega.nz/file/K7BlAagQ#fJ5RTXVK6hH0ikc719L0dERYbXiUPsyBezMnzuQLr4s - Penelopes Web |||| https://mega.nz/file/6yJzlTBL#G1TNUunwUh2oUhd9oIWLBSGBqMjxSOhbtynqKCctHx0 - Shifting Tides ||It's time to burn down all bridges)
>>1553820I am a bit of a retard, how do I launch them? Replacing TNO files with those or what?
>>1553820I fucking kneel
>>1553820Holy shitLeaker sama I kneel
>>1553820NO NO NO AHAHAHA
hey leaker-kun false dawn has been taken downreup?
>>1553820TNO bros... is it over?
>>1553820someone download this now to have a back up in case they go down
Any funny screenshots from the dev server?
>>1553820TNOxisters.... how will we ever recover from this???
>>1553820You will never win OR get your name in the TNO development credits.
>>1553820LEAKER-SAMA I KNEEL
>>1553508>>1553496I'm assuming the self determinists are the leftnats, pan africanists, natcoms, etc. But who are the left internationalists? Trots?
>>1553839French gui even more fucking insane than Guangdong one
poking through the files there seems to be almost nothing new for germanymanchuria seems limited toohmtheyre making almost no progress at all
>>1553844TNObrosIs it actually joever?
>>1553843The devs don't give a fuck about these leaks.
>>1553844Pretty sure manchuria has a lot of guis coded and Bormann and Speer have some trees also coded
>>1553844they added this
>>1553847That's good honestly if true, they should just keep working on the mod while ignoring this place
>>1553851>implying Ashley ignores us
>>1553820Literally all of this was leaked last week.
>>1553853where? because only The Ruin was leaked here
>>1553852Ashley I hope you're doing good btw, those losers better not have purged you
>>1553858The very last thread
>>1553861HHAHAHHAAHAHHA leaker 0, devs 1
>>1553844They have almost no progress because they cancel new content right after it's almost done and rework multiple times same things.This is Amur's facelift btw
>>1553861>>1553862i don't get itif all that was really leaked 1 week ago then why was no one talking about it?
>>1553864>They have almost no progress because they cancel new content right after it's almost done and rework multiple times same things.jesus christ>amur reworkwhich of the leaked builds is that on?
>>1553865Because people support the devs/OFN and not even everyone thinks leakers/Nazi Germany should win.
Is it true they're reworking France from the ground up? Why's that?
>>1553869Read the France doc
>>1553869France right now plays second fiddle to the USA, when in actuality it stands alone and should be treated as such.
yo speer! yo speer! yo speer!
>>1553869Kinda in the fith time
>>1553867>which of the leaked builds is that on?None, it cancelled. Another Russian facelift will never be released.I hate anime and vtubers
>>1553872New Hitler portrait?
>>1553877it's already old
>>1553873I hate red Italia and Captcha and ponies
>>1553860too latei already got to cuddle her in bed
newfags getting surprised at 2 yesr old shit
>>1553879Oh, may we see it?
The devs have literally done nothing, holy fuck lmao.
>>1553890They changed the entire Adriatic coastline and made it closer to OTL.
>There is another full rework of Heydrich
>>1553892you fucking retard its been known for ageswe even had his doc leaked
>>1553891>G-guys this is all old, it’s *last weeks* build, d-d-devs win again!>Uh, Chuds they didn’t change nothing, they removed old content! Devs win again!>Manchukuo may barely be playable, but at least it’s something!
>>1553892He is just like Schörner just with bonus 100 day trees
>>1553895>july 2022git-days-of-europe-penelopes-web.zip 1.40 GB>september 2023git-days-of-europe-penelopes-web.zip 2.06 GB
>>1553894And they just did't change that and don't progressed at all. TNO is dead mod.
>>1553895Fuck are you talking about, first few years of Manchuria are playable on the Hotline branch
The devs are enacting the emergency order.
>>1553884Fake and cuck, Ashley is giving birth to my mongoloid sons rn
>>1553899what the fuck are you talking about
>>1553876>Moe mod is now canonWould the be single most based move
>>1553902Fuck you. Both Ashley and Jane are cuddling me right now and you will never have children chud.
DEVS ARE PANICKING. THEY ARE PURGING PEOPLE ON THE GIT. -Q
>>1553911LEAKER-SAMA I HOPE YOU'RE SAFE
>>1553911Everything must go.**Evsrything**
What's the most complete path for Italy in the git
>>1553868>>1553862Kys cord troons
>>1553820So uh, which of these are the most complete? In fact which nation in these are the most complete and/or have the most content?
Shills panicking ITT
>>1553876so this is what they've done all this time uh
Afghanistan has new skeleton content in the manchuria update
If you were a TNO character, what would your ideology, super event song and quote be?
Manchukuo pie chartfascism form darkest to lightest:MangyouSoumuchouConcordia AssociationManchurian Imperial ArmyNatsoc: Kantou-gunDespotism: Imperial Court
Too lazy to make a webm but the card dealing animation is quite nice and smooth
Big building would be bigger
Institutions GUI, it's completely different from the one in the teaser. The 2 symbols at the top are Authenticity and Jap Approval respectively
not home from work, how playable is Germany?
Special projects gui is basically GNG's product cycles but less costly (or maybe it's not balanced yet)
>>1553945it's way too fucking slow jesus christ
>>1553951Not playable at all.
this mechanic was already leaked but here are the dissident groups from left to right:-religious societies-labour unions-organised crime-NAJUA-north eastern national salvation council (KMT remnants)-dongbei socialist front-far eastern partisan command
GDP race tooltip
anyone checked out the TSS build yet?
>>1553963there's no tss build
Park Chung Hee is the HoS in Sejima's path (dunno if this will still be the case given the sejima drama in the dev server)
And Yu Jingtao is the HoS instead of Katakura in the Kantou-gun coup
>>1553965i meant shifting tides, sorry
That's all for Manchuria, gonna do a bit of Germany nowFirst here's the Nat Spirits.Hitler's bio hasn't changed I thinkDenmark (color is red now), Norway (focus tree was removed) and Sweden have new starting situationsKaukasien has the new bordersHimmler is still in burgundy
>>1553981Are there ANY infos about Goering?Also I Speer still a dentist?
>>1553981Woops image came out wrong, sorry
>>1553985I'm a fucking retaaaard>>1553983Speer is still reformist, this has been confirmed ages agoI got nothing on goering
>>1553985What a travesty there's no black or purple in that piechart anymore. It's all one big brown sea of boring.
Assorted lawsthey all have meme descriptions
Bormann science mechanic
>>1553991I hope that we're able to found an Adolf Hitler university
Not yet shown Bormann clades. There's also Heydrich (SS) but he doesn't have a description
Bormann's inauguration tree 1
>>1554001inauguration tree 2(all focuses have effects and almost all have loc btw)
>>1554004Reformist post-inauguration mini tree (all have effects)
>>1554005ditto but reactionary
Phase 2 political tree(some focuses change depending on reformist or hardliner alignment but I'm not gonna post the same tree twice)Everything in this branch is codedNo loc tho
>>1554009Economy treeAgain everything codedThis one is fully locced
>>1554010Technology/Research treeAll coded, all loccedIcons are holy fucking kino
Is GCW still in or have they started implementing its replacement?
Diplo treethat's everything for this tree, now I'll post the mechanics>>1554013GCW is still in (pretty much everything up to the end of the GCW hasn't changed)
Situations GUI (basically crises that happen). I only have Partisan-Hunting mechanic available
>>1554014based, there really is no point in purging at this point, I wonder if at some point they'll just create a git channel like every other hoi4 mod
>>1553820BasedEveryone better be creating back ups we finally got our redux foundation
Reich economical development mechanicHas 2 tabs "projects" and "goals". This is the goal tabI can't find a tooltip but from what I can see you have to meet yearly requirements in those fields and it has a ton of decisions.
>>1554023Project tab, basically the one we have now but overhauled and with the addition of building projects and megaprojects (VGH)
>>1554024Theres a TON of projects
Oil crisis tree but we've already seen this
>>1554025YESSSSSS PATRIOTS IN CONTROL HOW I WAKE UP KNOWING THE IMMORTAL VISION OF MARTIN BORMANN AND THE PARTY CHANCELLERY REIGNS SUPREME
>>1554016Is this Bormann or Speer?
Bormann has new trait when he gets old
>>1554028That's BormannI'm done with him now as his epilogue trees are barebones (no icons, no effects, no loc)Here's Speer's starting tree, very similar to what we have now with a few changes, like Bormann, it seems fully coded and locced
>>1554034part 2 of Speer's first treebasically same as above
New Speerometer + funny eventThere's new unshown clades: Control Faction, New Guard, Reactionary SocRevs, Party Reformists, Reformist Technocrats and Inner Circle but they don't have descriptions
>>1554037Zollverein GUI hasn't changed from what was teased previously
Now onto the Phase 2 treesFirst, economy. Everything has loc, but the left branch lacks focus effects.Following Erhard's vision is apparently more important as it's now tracked by an explicit variable
>>1554040Mil tree from what I'm seeing hasn't changed at all
>>1554043Research/Tech treeEverything has loc most focuses don't have effectsIcons are dope tho
>>1554044Someone already posted this but here's the Berlin renovation treeNo loc or effects
>>1554046Megacorp/Second economy treeAgain, no loc or effects
>>1554047Diplo tree and last part of the previous treeDiplo looks very similar to bormann's (and everything has loc and effects)
>>1554034Really interesting. Are you gonna do Heydrich/Himmler/Goring stuff after this?Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread? I'm mainly interested in shit like aesthetic/tone style guides, research, all those big meaty 100 pagers that hardly even have gameplay relevance. Also anything to do with the Aryan Brotherhood's remake. Dated or outdated!
>>1554049OC mechanic recieved a touch-up>>1554050I'll do Heydrich, but Himmler and Goering aren't in the debug decisions so I guess they're not in.>Also, any more dev docs that weren't dropped last thread? Not the leaker so don't ask me. I'm just playing and showcasing the shit leaked here >>1553820
>>1554014really good to hear. devs if you're reading, FOLLOW THIS LINE. purge if you find the guy, sure, but don't gut development for what are basically (as long as you get the gestapo of reddit and the discord in check suppressing things) a few fans and fucks messing around. personally, i'm a billion times more excited than before. just hold the line, the fact this week-long leaks and discussions around them doesn't happen with, say, KR or OWB is proof people actually give a damn about TNO.
i fucking hate all these leaks because they genuinely show promise but you just know they're never coming out
>>1554051OC treeFocus effects are dynamic depending if you're stability is low or high and the path you take. Everything has loc and effects(btw the pic in the mechanic changes depending on the cohesion/social status, neat)
>>1554055Slave revolt tree (holy shit it's massive)All locced, no effects
Speerist epilogue treeNo loc or effects
>>1554057Go4 epilogue treeHas some effects, but no loc
>>1554058Oberlander is barebones (no loc, effects or icons)
>>1554061Same as Abs>>1554050>>1554051I know I said I was gonna do Heydrich but he only has the initial tree (no loc, no effects, no mechanics) which was already posted before so I'll stop hereSorry for flooding the thread with pics btw
last thing, funni strasserist Flyg is neosocialist now
>>1554063any focus trees from illusion's end?
>>1554067I don't have it downloaded rn (fuck mega's dl limit) so I can't post them now, sorry
>>1554069do keep us updated on things like IE and ST when you get them frenit's whitepilling knowing there was something done for this mod :)
>>1554074Literally who + I don't care
>Bormann and Speer have more playable content than Ukraine and Britain combinedWhy the fuck didn't they prioritize them instead? Honestly I bet if they crunched they could've finished one of them by december.
>>1553820I kneel leaker-sama
>>1554090Because the team is anti-Euro and pro-great replacement.
>>1554107???Britain and Ukraine are in Europe
Cool to see Germany content is atleast this far ahead, hopefully it’ll be done before the team dies of old age
>>1554026>MGR referenceDare I say, kino?
>>1554090Because "bad guys" aren't allowed to have good things. That's why Italy beem stuck into the coombers for a while.If this mod don't sort itself out, you start seeing "submods" that use the leaked builds as a basis, for sure
>>1554128>rk ukraine and collab britain aren't "the bad guys"nigga what
>>1554129According to big mod media, no.
>>1554134i don't know what the fuck you're talking aboutdevs have said very clearly collab uk and rk ukraine are shitty places to livewtf is "big mod media" anyways
I'm gonna be real, Bormann is shaping up to be cooler than Speer. He's not the boringman anymore.
>>1554144>Heydrich will top this with kino spy nazi action and him brawling with Glenn at the finale, ON SPACE
>>1554054Props to the dev team though. Despite our whining, they still carry on and hopefully, we might get a big update in the future. Hopefully.
>all these TNO leaks>still no TRO leaksWhat the fuck happened?
>>1554152New days of Eurasia? I would kill for a leak from them that focuses on China.
>>1554152>>1554154I just want the Spain demo. I know the UK lead for TRO is also the lead for TFL so I'm guessing content for that won't be out for some time.
>>1554128>bad guys aren't allowed to have good thingsBro both of the next two countries to release are "kill partisans bottom text"
>>1554164That's why they will be stuck in dev hell
You know, those Manchuko folks...they are quite classy!
>>1554185Nah they can't back down now, if TNO jannies fuck up releasing this one then it's dead mod for good desu.Especially considering they already announced Poland and the team straight up shit itself
>>1554213Dunno, don't trust 'em. They looks like the sort of folk who would rather die in shit than cast their pride aside
>Mod about Axis winning ww2>remove any mention of genocide etc over timewhat is even the point anymore ? fucking Nu-Wolfenstein had more balls about their nazi won setting than this
>>1554233I still don't understand how even mods who do it in a very stealthy way with no mentions at all (Like ol" GAMING TOOLS) which had a decision that removed pop (labeled as "realocate population), got nuked, their devs flagged and their livehoods doxxed. It's a fucking game goddamit. I can rape people in CK2 but I can't remove a few gypsies from my beach
>>1554210Moe Mod chads, I kneel
>>1554233It’s some steam workshop stuff
>>1554243United UMC chads stay winning.
>>1554233>remove any mention of genocide etc over timethey're literally adding assorted laws explaining the state of Generalplan Ost
>>1554152TNO took 4 or 5 years to make the basegame, wait another 2, I suspect well get the spain demo some time next year.
>all this simping and bootlicking for the devsThis is basically r/tno/ at this point
>>1554014imagine being so retarded you "purge" people because your super secret state documents got leaked its a fucking mod for a parashart game who cares, there are mods that allow open access to their git
now that the devs have stated this about leaks, can the leibbrandt guy leak the doc or is he gonna keep being a pussy
New subideologies coming in the next updates:>communist_trotskyism_subtype: "Bolshevik-Leninism">liberal_conservatism_oligarchic_liberalism_subtype: "Oligarchic Liberalism">liberal_conservatism_centrist_progressivism_subtype: "Centrist Progressivism">conservatism_liberal_corporatism_subtype: "Liberal Corporatism">conservatism_progressive_conservatism_subtype: "Progressive Conservatism">paternalism_subhasism_subtype: "Subhasism">paternalism_herrerism_subtype: "Herrerism">despotism_aristocratic_republicanism_subtype: "Aristocratic Republicanism">fascism_neosocialism_subtype: "Neosocialism">fascism_british_fascism_1_subtype: "British Fascism" (+3 variants)>fascism_social_credit_subtype: "Social Credit">national_socialism_naturalised_nazism_subtype: "Naturalised National Socialism">national_socialism_national_socialist_orthodoxy_subtype: "National Socialist Orthodoxy">national_socialism_rosenbergite_tendency_subtype: "Rosenbergite Tendency">esoteric_nazism_esoteric_kemalism_subtype: "Esoteric Kemalism" (will be natsoc)
DV is not slated for integration, panzerites took their first victory.
>>1554422the mod is literally otl africa in TNO, only retards seriously thought it was gonna be integrated
>>1554421Fuck I forgot Idiosyncratic conservatismSorry Powellbros
>>1554427Considering how the devs were creaming their pants over it, it was a possibility.
>>1554433Eh, I've seen devs say it was very uninspired and a missed opportunity because of what I said earlier.
>>1554422Actually joeverIberia and Africa are the shittiest part of the modThe big fuckoff germany colony is so retarded, why would Germany invade Portugal and make it merge with Spain (Btw TNO devs they are different countriess with different politics and diplomacies in case you were wondering)These are the 2 things I hope they axe as soon as possible
>>1554438Because the Iberian Union is an excuse for another regional power. Without it, you'd probably just end up with OTL Spain and Portugal.
Germany starts with the netherlands annexed and cored in the rework. Also new denmark color
>>1554453Show off new Norway.
>>1554472There isn't much to show. New name, new leader, new nat spirits and that's it. Tree has been removed btw
>>1554441Iberia IS Spain in content and forpolSeparate Portugal from it
When partification is complete Bormann's trait gets upgraded>>1554487I guess bc one played it and the new skeleton makes it obsolete
Bormann actually prepares for the 2wrw
German forpol tree is shared between all fuhrers it seems. Bormann is the most flexible, he can choose between diplomacy or hawkishness
>>1554504>No Goering mention
>>1554510I don't think they have a plan for him yet lmao.
>>1553897>I am Heydrich10/10 writing
goofy ahhh muti portrait
>>1554513They dont, its in super early proposal phase
>>1554529It should focus around Göring turning carinhall into the german palace of versailles all the while doing corrupt shit
>>1554527Are there any funny portraits for Giani/Balbo?
>>1554535No, they only have 1Pavolini has 2 but one is his minister portrait and the other is his duce one
>>1554537Damn, I wonder if goofy ahh Muti portrait is actually his failstate portrait.
>>1554541My guess is:Unibrow Muti: moderate pathSmiling Muti: radical path
Does the IJN still intervene if you fuck up during the Guandong crisis and cause a failstate or it was a skeleton content?
>>1554839it's the IJA, not the navy but yesit even has a mini tree
>>1554839>>1554844isn't that the tree where all the focuses automatically complete because (You)'ve lost all control?that was the most kino the storytelling got
>>1554438>why would Germany invade Portugal and make it merge with SpainThey don't retard, they join together voluntarily to resist potential German aggression
New teaserwholesome nazi british republic
>>1554857They conquer their colonies militarily, that sounds like an invasion
>>1554861the second cromwell... VGH
>>1554427Because it's all old-fag developers who make it so they get dicksucked by the fucking tranny devs. Seriously hope the fucking devs for that mod eat shit
>>1552515How the fuck anyone can enjoy the awful lefty visual novel is beyond me
>>1554898400.000 subs in the workshop, seethe chud
>>1554525>I am Hitler focus in Bormann’s current tree.Kino
>>1554422Excellent. It looked like otl africa tossed into tno and it just doesnt fit.
>>1554438>Iberia and Africa are the shittiest part of the mod>Iberiat. never played Iberia
>>1554438This. You just know the sole reason for the existence of the african rks is because the old devs couldn't be arsed to put in actual effort into that region.
apparently ASHLEY translated a fan comic about guangdong
>>1555036ashley > agatha (the chinese TWR female dev)
Chile bros...I kneel
>>1555106this one I guesshttps://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/16om0gz/off_the_streets_ft_lam_haau_cyun_and_yoshiko/
>>1554903>brutally mogged by KR and MDkek embarrassing
Is Albania getting a tree?
>>1555124 both of those mods have existed since like day 1 of hoi4
Update in a week but I guess we already knew that
>>1555132albania doesn't exist in tno, it ws annexed by italy in the 30s
>>1555144at least irl, i assume the same is true in tno
>>1555132No>>1555146Albania will be a separate tag in PW for gameplay purposes, but de iure is annexed into Italy as part of a personal union
>>1555141Push it back and complete Britain and Poland, please?
>>1555158They won'tI know people on the team and according to them, even though Ukraine is almost finished Britain is really unfinished and still borderline unplayable.Apparently only one of its mechanics works and the rest are broken or unusable.I have no idea how they're planning to release this in a week lmao.
>>1555141Great fall update TNO.
>>1553864That artwork is fucking amazing.Amur is one of my favourite eastern countries.
>>1553872They did Hitler dirty. He'd be 73 in 1962, he looks 90 there.Also>no blue eyes
Is there no Napola schools mechanic for Germany?They were to be the next generation of Reich civilian and military leaders. One of my great uncles was in the school at Rottweil while my grandfather and his two elder brothers were all fighting in the eastern front.
Have the devs made mention on whether the new patch will be compatible with the patch coming with Arms Against Tyranny? It releases less than two weeks after The Ruin comes out.
>>1555170Actual dev hereHow the fuck could we make it compatible with the new features, we don't even have early access to the new release of AAT
>>1555141>>1555158>>1555160Are they cutting anything with this update?They *love* cutting playable full paths while adding absolutely nothing to replace it.We've had only one brand new full focus tree since November 2020 and like two reworked existing ones and cut several countries.
>>1555172Don't they give you guys early access? I swear they do with KR, I thought it'd be like that for TNO as well.
>>1555170lmao no, it'll be outdated for an easy two months.The new systems look like it'll fuck absolutely everything up in the mod(and all other major mods).
>>1555175They give early access to EaW, MD and KR afaik.Possibly OWB aswell as they released a full patch within days of one of the more recent major expansions.
>>1555170Wait, wouldn't a Poland update be perfect for this? >Arms against Tyranny >Poland, liberated, is up against the victor of World War 2, Germany, and their decisions will determine whether they live or die, or maybe a player led path that leads to them kicking the Germans back maybe?
>>1555190>maybe a player led path that leads to them kicking the Germans back maybe?lollmao evenretard
>>1555191Something like England and Wales or Yunnan maybe? Would be fun to see a player led Poland getting something like Yun and fighting to the death for their freedom.
>>1555195Just think about it logically and you'll se why it is impossible
>>1555177>All the important mods get a pie>TNO doesn'tGuess Paradox don't like you fellas.And yeah OWB get early acess, the ERBX dev was even asking them to share the code with him, so he can keep his mod up to date, but it ended in pizza it seems
>>1555108Juicy chilean booty!
>>1555198I mean, it doesn't mean you need to suceed. It could give you a semblance of victory, only to crush you completly, like Ukraine failstate
SALUTO AL DUCE, AVANTI ITALIAMan they better allow Italy to become a new contender in the Cold War with the status of Superpower.
>>1555206>Man they better allow Italy to become a new contender in the Cold War with the status of Superpower.Have you been living under a rock? This has been confirmed for ages
>>1555212I haven't actively read the discord or leaks until the start of the summer.
>>1555206Love the cameo of Fantauzzi (Muti's successor)
>>1554421> Subhasismsirs...good morning...we won...
>They didn't use Muti pilot getup picture as the basis for his ruler portraintFeels like a wasted opportunity desu, he looked so cool on it
>>1555198No easter egg path then? Bummer.
One week to fully playable and loc’d ukraine
>>1555246he has drip I agree, but tbf it's hardly attire for a duce
>>1555215Do other Duces also have successors?
>>1555549Balbo also has one (Amos Spiazzi)
Do we know if Speer will still have his fascist path in the rework? As in the one where he outplays the GO4 and reforms national socialism to be more stable?
>>1554898The best parts of the mod are ultranationalsts and millitarists.
>>1555630the best parts of the mod are the ones about development and economy, aka Speer germany, guangdong, hart usa and brazil (to a lesser extent)
>>1555630You spelled Natsoc wrong.
>>1555633Seeing big GDP numbers are nice, but it get stale after a while. Guandong is kino, but after mogging the Komai coup and reforming the police, things get kinda lamey
pick your fighter
>>1555715there is only one choice
>>1555715Speer is just your average resident of Raleigh North Carolina
>>1555715Suprising they didn't character assassinate Heydrich to be le evil incompetent with secret daddy issues/is gay/ackshually he's a loser because he's a nahtzee
>>1555715>ambitious>hated by everyone else>arrogant>paranoid>controllingbormann is literally me wtf
>>1555715so Himmler becomes the new potential German leader in exchange for burgundy being removed?
>>1555746Burgundy isn't removed, it's being reworked to be a ultranat esoteric SS charlemagne state
>>1555751I consider renaming the country as being removed
>>1555758It's still called Burgundy though
>>1555715>Still no GoeringAre they gonna cut him? God I hope not
>>1555769No, it's just that there are no plans for him yet
>>1555566which path is the most similar to current Speer path atm?I assumes it’s “The New Party Paradigm” or something and there’s>Speer evil maxxing Poor Hitler his friend betrays him ;_;>Social Revolutionary larp?????>Klaus Shwab’s German Economic Forum>Bormann party concentration reference???>wolters what even is this pathI can’t tell which one is spposed to be the most Dengist Speer like
>>1555760so himmler is still the leader of burgundy or what?
>>1555773They are just different flavors of the same dengist path based on which faction Speer allied. But I guess the most similar is the technocrat subpath.The bottom tree is the ending and is the same regardless of subpath (bar one focus). Treskow kills Speer's successor > Wolters becomes the new one.
>>1555778No, a french dude is (Idk who, maybe De la Maziere). Himmler is in germany leading the SS
>try to do a Shukshin 2wrw run because bored>game crashes if Yunnan loses the GAW after Japan intervenesWho coded this shit?
>>1555779Speer’s successor will always get assassinate by Treskow?Also who’s Wolters.
>>1555788Just read about him btw.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Wolters>By prior arrangement, he and Speer tried to get in touch with each other by telepathy one New Year's Eve—but both men fell asleep before midnight struck.
>>1555788>Speer’s successor will always get assassinate by Treskow?Yes, it's literally right there on the tree for fucks sake
>>1555790>Wolters concluded his letter with a suggestion that they avoid seeing each other in future, a suggestion with which Speer concurred. In spite of this, Wolters' wife Erika remained close friends with Margarete Speer, Albert Speer's wife. The two men had Christmas presents delivered to each other every year (Wolters sent Speer a ham, while receiving a pot of honey). Speer admitted that because he had had few friends, the estrangement hurt.>In 1975, Wolters attempted a reconciliation, sending Speer a letter for his seventieth birthday in March. Speer responded emotionally, pledging to come visit Wolters at the slightest hint. Speer wrote again two months later, telling Wolters that "despite all inherent contradictions, I am very attached to you". Nevertheless, the two men never met again.>Even in Speer's second book of memoirs, Spandau: The Secret Diaries, Wolters' name is not mentioned, and his hometown is changed; the text refers to him as Speer's "Coburg friend". Speer sent Wolters a copy of the book anyway, though Speer stated that he thought it likely that Wolters would let it sit in his bookcase unread. Wolters responded sarcastically in a letter which he signed, "Duke of Coburg," "I forgive you for not 'localizing' me in the diaries after your modest restraint in [Inside the Third Reich]. The author of the [Chronik], the temporary 'best friend', and the indefatigable contact for Spandau remains nonexistent."Jesus christ that’s hurt
>>1555790>>1555800if youre interested here's some new speer events that were teased some time ago. One of them is about Wolters
>>1555807I in fact am. Thanks kind xir.
>>1555807I like the few moment where Speer becomes serious and manipulates his friend to accepting his new position.God I love him so much hottest nazi man ever.
>>1555316retarded broken economic system from vanilla doesn't scare us. it just makes us laugh at retards like you who can't comprehend actual economic simulation>reeeeeeee i should just be able to spam factories and shit out guns by switching to total mobilization i shouldn't have to worry about the civilian sector at all even though a good chunk of the game revolves around managing the state of the country up until the war
>>1555807FUCKING KINO I NEED TO PLAY SPEER
>>1555807couple more events i found
>>1553947Hoooly fucking based, I don't know who is working on Speer shit but they nail down the desire to larp so perfectly.Though, why did they rework him? He was already the most developed path.
>>1555896Go code some stuff instead of sperging in a mongolian anime forum and larping as an economy major, hrt infested discordnigger
Guandong Sony path made me actually hate chinks, holy hell. You cave in for their demands and they still fuck you shit up. They deserve one thousand years of Komai buck breaking, no doubt
>>1556035>Though, why did they rework him? He was already the most developed path.It's not really a rework and more of a facelift (focus trees and mechanics are largely the same, just expanded with more flavor and depth). If they didn't touch him, then he'd ironically be the least developed path after the other fuhrers are done
>>1556114fuck off newfag and stop larping
>>1552696Good job, you won the Cold War.
>>1554210Is…is that oboro?
>>1557138Yeah, and the Kenpentai are Taimanin sluts
>>1557805That’s Fucking beautiful