why don't you give this kino a try?https://store.steampowered.com/app/933110/Age_of_Empires_III_Definitive_Edition/
That's the demo, retard
>>1540793>demo>access to multiplayerofficially it's "free trial" but whatever
>>1540763I'd rather play the original.
still too expensive for me to play AoE3
An interesting move, perhaps profitable in the end? I wonder if Retold also gets this 'shareware' treatment right out of the gate, giving lots of players a taste, having them fall for the game hook, line and sinker.
>>1540763What's a good beginner faction? I'm leaning towards Ottomans as they kind of have an interesting history at this period.
>>1541140France is pretty good for beginner, well rounded EU civ that can do everything wellOttoman is easy but I think it might be harder for you to switch to other civ, if you're used to not producing villager
>>1540763I'm not paying twice for a game I already bought even if it was 20 years ago
>>1541140>>1541297French and British are known to be rather easy to master, since they give a lot of benefits to musketmen, to protect them until they reach later ages.And musketmen are the games solve-anything unit.At end-game French just spam upgraded mega horses, while brits just use musketmen to protect thier rape rockets mass produced in factories.Leave revolts for the moment when you master all-in timing.
>>1541140spain or germany if you're an aggressive player.france and england are balanced.ottomans and portugal if you're a turtle/defensive.
>>1541472Otto is literally a hyperaggressive civ unless you plan to TC boomdutch is prime turtle civ
>>1541140Beginners tend to boom. Portuguese do this well. It's a very straight forward European civ. >>1541898Beginners don't have to adhere to the meta as dogmaticly as the tryhards.
you all picked monke pfp right?
>>1540826Do people still play multiplayer on the original? The AI is so much worse in the original version it's not even close.
>>1542126Isn't the original big in Thailand for some reason? I agree with you though. Don't know how I played the game when it came out because it's really hard to play now.
>>1540826Is there any real reason to play the original AoEIII over DE? Wacky name changes aside.
>>1543369I think the Wars of Liberty mod might be a good reason, but I wouldn't know.
>>1543369>real reasonNo, there isn't any real reason. It's improved in every way.
>>1541084well has more players than halo infinite which costed 100 millions
>>1540763It was free to play back when I pirated it at release, and I still didn't want to play it back then.
>>1541140Start with the DLC civs, get ahead of the curve. They are all OP and will remain OP for years to come.
I actually liked AoE3 and was about to get DE on sale recently but then I googled it and saw they made it fucking gay.
>>1545582>historical accuracy... le BAD>funny firepit dancing ooga ooga chaka me crazy brown tomahawk thrower... le GOODI agree anon, so fucking gay. This entire message is just drowning in gay cum.
>>1545604>"problematic and harmful">anything to do with historical accuracyYou're b8ing but still a retarded fag
>>1540763This game is a shit for those you like to clic continually. I played japan and they are op, there is too much confusion
>>1540763Does the original version run without issues on modern OSs?
>play dutch>5 banks at 6 min>get sheep in age 3>age 4 at 11 min>gather coin only>make royal horsemen>carry the game and get the highest kill countFeels good to be royal.
>>1546163>Play Inca>opponent expects me to fortress rush>I go all in into Mezo Allies ->Zapotec Lighting Warriors>literally zero counters early game>they nerf the fortress teleporting, so nobody does fort rush>everybody now knows I will play full aggro when they see the gay Incan carpet>I can only exploit natives as Inca in Europesadness made me pause playing the game for some time
>Play Ottoman>Fast fortress>3 TC boom>make Humbaraci>They counter heavy inf>They counter artilery>They trade well with ranged cav>Skirmishers are supposed to counter them but they don't>Make Azaps or Janissaries to defend from Hand cav>ez winsI love these dorks. Whoever thought a high range infantry unit that melts artilery is okay deserves an award.
>>1546753>Humbaraci>AzapsWhat the fuck are these? Sometimes I see units I don't even know, did they add a shit ton of new units in DE?
>>1546782>HumbaraciA unique Ottoman grenadier.>AzapsBasically pikemen with a ranged attack.>did they add a shit ton of new units in DE?That's a fine way to put it. Even without touching the DLCs, you'll see new minor civs, mercenaries, outlaws, royal units, shipments, plus some hefty changes to some civs like Germans, Ottomans and Russians.
>>1546782Ottomans got a heavy rework which is actually good. Felt odd giving them the usual European Hussar and Grenadier in the original game. DE is just WOL but better. They literally have WOL devs creating units and stuff for them, I don't why people think the original game with WOL is somehow better. I played WOL semi-regularly in 2020 and it was shit. DE is relatively much better.
>join lobby that says "no noobs">get kicked>join lobby that says "high ELO">get kickedsuch is life of an intermediate level player
>>1547557you can't get kicked from ranked or your own lobby
>>1545582This has nothing to do with the devs though. It's Microsoft and they already pulled this shit in the original game. Sandy Peterson said in a video that he and the entire dev team were forced to sit at a lecture about Native American representation during the original dev cycle of AoE3 and that's why native representation in that game was so weird because Microsoft was so schizo about it.Same thing with this Definitive Edition.
>>1543369Better graphics, visual effects, and less retarded civs
>>1545604They reduced accuracy: added in noble savage plotlines, got shittier voice acting, got rid of Crazy Horse, and replaced fire pits & mines with "community plaza" & "tribal marketplace" respectively. Its just patronizing treatment of proud warrior chads, portraying them as victims instead of the proud and free moggers that they were.>>1542117pic related>>1545680Yes, played the shit out of it during lockdown.
>>1548096I'd be fine with the name change but they look retarded at the moment, I can never tell the amount of villager on gold or the fire pit
>>1548096>it's only historical accuracy when it fits my incel version of historical headcanon!>black is white, and you're... LE STUPID ;^)
>>1548902Iroquois as a confederation of tribes maintained their regional hegemony by abducting and raising the kids of enemy villages. iirc They also had primitive mining pits, but the game just ignores that history lmao.Its also funny when there are local demonstrations about natives, and they just bust out some random tipi because they have no clue that local natives used longhouses.
>>1548902huge faggot, as expected of a definitive edition player
>>1548928this. btw can you give us a sitrep on the aoe 2 definitive edition censorship? that is my last aoe game to play...
>>1547557DO ITPress the 1vs1 matchmaking buttonFace your fear
>>1546843>I don't why people think the original game with WOL is somehow betterit's because of the welcome message in DE, it's literally white genocide
>>1548927>They also had primitive mining pits, but the game just ignores that history lmao.they literally consulted actual native americans and all that bullshit but of course /pol/cel version of history is the one and only true version that everyone should respect and abide
>>1549623Consultation isn't one all end all of sure data acquisition. Any proper historical analysis is an exasperating work on field and in one's mind.
>>1549623Grabbing some 1/16th native experts just to rewrite some of the AoE3 campaigns and change 2 factions names kek (and they left Aztec name unchanged)
>>1549642You're talking shit out of your ass and there's nothing wrong with the Aztec name.
>>1540763Still waiting for the fix for the historical skin modsMakes playing Imperial all the more fun especially as the French and Russians
>>1545582lame
>>1549623>appeal to authoritylol these are the retards that cry about le pol
>>1541297When I was a kid, I used go seethe a lot playing against fr*nch. The fully upgraded cuirassiers just didn’t have any effective counter lategame. To make matters worse, they have good skirmishers to kill halbs and other heavy infantry
I fucking hate this shit, I used to be able to play through family sharing but now im fucked because of this free to play shit.
>stream for 2 hours>lost every single gameWidgie bros...not like this
>>1549623>consultedyou mean censored. seethe some more. we will never not notice.
>>1540763I just have the regular edition, fuck buying definitive editions.
>>1549289Is 1v1 the way to play? What about ranked 2v2 or 3v3?
>>1551435may be fun but also frustrating if you are a tryhardjust make units and help if someone gets attacked goddamn it
>>1550169They also have strong as fuck musketmen.But getting to Age IV and buffing your horses to OP levels is hard in semi-competent 1vs1.Lakota and Inca will burn your TC in no time.Also Brits having a wall of muskets guarding rocket launchers is far more scary.
>>1540763Didn't like it much when I actually owned it.
>>1541140I'm looking at Aztecs now and while they aren't exactly noob-tier, they have well-rounded units with good upgrades, great turtling stuff, great ceremonies, solid shipments, and these 30min panic buttons that send lots of their units so they seem pretty robust. I know their weakness are skirmishers and artillery, tho.
>>1549623They did the same shit with OG AoE3 and the devs aren't to blame, like I said with >>1547888 Sandy Peterson already said Microsoft pulled the same shit with the original AoE3 and was equally as autistic about not offending natives, but like last time they just grabbed some """experts""" and added retarded shit. The same thing happened with the original AoE3 and it ended up being "offensive" anyways. This isn't the first time Microsoft did something retarded for pandering, I remember Sandy Peterson mentioned Microsoft being retarded about adding Korea and then accidentally offending them with how the Sea of Japan was named in the game. That shit was funny. >>1549642This.
>>1552324>artilleryDo Bow Knights still have fuckhuge range, bonus vs artillery and no setup time?
>>1552584Arrow Knights are hot garbage. They deal hardly any effective bonus damage, they only barely outrange falconets, their low damage is useless against all other units, they deal no splash damage, have low speed, take 2 pop, and need multiple shipments to stop dying when something sneezes on them.
>>1552614Remember that they do not count as artillery and move as infantry, while having no set up time.This means you can squeeze a lot of them into smal area, make them shoot their arrows quickly and retreat when they are targeted (and this should not happen since after one volley they should destroy falconets in range ).Culverins won't deal the bonus damage against them.
>>1552675Of course they won't. Culverins are good against artillery, but not siege units like grenadiers, flamethrowers, mantlets or arrow knights. Likewise, arrow knights won't help against siege units either.
>first month of Free to play event>finished with like 20 days left>second month event>is about to fail closelyaoe3bros....
>>1554212Age of ESL 3
>>1540763Been going through the campaigns. I can see why this game failed back in the day. Clusterfuck is the word for it. Especially visually. The screen is a mess of bullshit at all times. Trying to copy WC3 was a retarded idea.Another thing that strikes me is the incredible cowardice of it. When it's not fantastical made up bullshit it's very anti-colonial. Ok, you hate colonialism, then don't make a fucking game about expanding empires with that as the setting. Christ, back in AoE2 you were pouring molten silver into people's eyes. Guess it's ok when Mongols do it.
