What strategy games can I make a customizable character and take power through politics, scheme, assassination in a randomly generated country?
None, unfortunately.Also, Rudolf did nothing wrong. The Empire was objectively a decent place to live compared to that Rebel shithole.
>>1517979If only there were some game about Kings, perhaps set in Crusader times
>>1518006>map painter>politicsmhm
>>1518018I suppose you can just keep pining for your perfect game that will never exist then
Crusader kings 2 is pretty good with a politics mod, I forgot the name of the mod though I haven't played it in forever. You can also randomize by counties, d, and kingdoms. Though if you do this I would recommend finding a mod that lowers or fixes the kingdom and empire formation costs as the ai will never be able to click it
>>1517978>Not one game where you can control a single individual or faction in a space empire scheming their way to control of the galaxy by amassing power through dubious and elaborate means I can't stand Stellaris for this exact reason. There's no internal conflict outside of events, and external conflict consists of taking territory from your opponent, you can't cripple them economically, can't change their form of government, can't meddle in their own internal conflicts because there aren't any, nothing. Just throwing fleets at each other until one side gives up.
>>1518092>you can't cripple them economically, can't change their form of government, can't meddle in their own internal conflicts because there aren't any, nothinghopefully Espiocracy isn't a scam, so I can finally fulfill that CIA glowie-LARP.
>>1517978tropico 4
>>1518092not exactly the same thing but you could try stellar monarch
>>1517978eraTohoK
>>1518092Yeah, it's funny how the game just doesn't work as a satisfying space opera simulator without some sort of internal politcal aspect.
>>1517979This, the empire is undeniably the best faction, the alliance of free planets is mutted and cucked beyond belief and don't even get me started on the (((Dominion of Freezan)))
>>1517979>Declares his intention to make humanity stronger>Reduces the human population from 300 billion to 40 billion >His empire is fought to a standstill by a nation with half the population >It's eventually overthrown by some blonde faggot who's barely even an adult
>>1517979Yang still mogs every Imperial Commander. Even Kircheis.
>>1519790>Yang still mogs every Imperial Commander. Even Kircheis.He absolutely did. And what did he do with his immense skill and talent? Absolutely nothing, except follow the orders of his "superiors" in the name of democracy. However, the democratic leaders were all corrupt slimebags who rose to power because they controlled the media (or rather, the corporations that owned the media controlled who got elected). Remember when Yang was put on trial?The actual competent men in the Alliance were the ones that rose through the ranks by merit, not popular vote. Noone elects admirals.Yang could have pulled a forceful Cincinnatus, taken absolute control for five years, kicked out the corrupt bureaucrats and Terraists and then reformed the state into a working republic. He could have used his military skills to force a peace treaty with the Empire, and then retire as a hero with the FPA back in working order.But he didn't, because he was a tool. Even the best tool in the world cannot wield itself
>>1520243>CincinnatusIs a myth. You will get a hundred Caesars and Napoleons out of that before you get a Cincinnatus. And don't give me Washington, that's an entirely different set of circumstances.
>>1520829>And don't give me a real life example because it turns my narrative into ribbonsMy guy this is a world where Ping Pong Diplomacy and Henry VIII existed its far more probable a that a general with a cult of personality declines autocratic powers for the benefit of the nation
>>1517978Mount and blade and bannerlord, maybe?>>1517979Rudolf was kind of a sperg that probably killed more people than needed when he fixed things, but that is ok because Reinhard basically did the samething but without the autism
>>1520243No he was detached and fatalistic but ultimately right. A military dictatorship wouldn't have fixed the alliance. Reform has to come from the citizens, not the military. Look at what happened to Rome.
>>1520243Also remember he studied history so he would have been well aware of the precedents.
>>1518171First or second?
>>1521456>>1521463Well he choose the option that allowed him to have a clean legacy and ensured that the Empire won. Perhaps it's for the best, as the Empire will probably transition to a mixed system at least anyway, if he did step up he might have destroyed himself with guilt, though I think the original anon is at least correct that internalizing democracy usually means turning a blind eye to the immoral orders of politicians, who are treated as the "natural leadership" in such a system.
>>1521688Yeah, the more I think about, Yang choosing to go down with the ship was the smartest thing he could have done. Him taking power would have created a shitty worse version of the Empire in the longest term, and the Republic was irredeemable in it's corruption nor able to reform.Getting conquered by a foreign power that takes the best from their system, displaces their entire political class, and ignores their hand wringing was the best thing that could have happened to them, even with the bad blood there.Good on Yang.
>>1521691>Yang choosing to go down with the ship was the smartest thing he could have doneHe didn't choose it though. It was his own dpersonal characteristics that allowed it to happen.>>1521688>I think the original anon is at least correct that internalizing democracy usually means turning a blind eye to the immoral orders of politiciansBeing subservent to orders is an inherent part of the military. I guess if you have a military dictatorship there might be one person to whom that doesn't apply. But most authoritarian counties intentionally have shitty corrupt militaries because they ones in power don't want any serious challenge to their position.>>1517978It's a good point that very few games do political intigue in any interesting or interactive way. It's hard to build that sort of system compared to pew-pew battles I guess. Usually the politics in the Total War games is a bit of a joke. Even if it's good like in Three Kingdoms there isn't much scale to it. Not many games can model human social interactions well.
>>1521463Being fully aware of all possible consequences of his actions just makes him incredibly indecisive when it comes to taking initiative.
>>1520243Interestingly for a skilled military commander with a Chinese name and an interest in history, this serves to illustrate Sun Tzu's ideas of a perfect general, showing what happens when an otherwise exceptional general lacks the will to disobey his leaders, even in pursuit of what is arguably the best interests of the Alliance.
>be Reinhard>be one of the greatest admirals in imperial history>nearly gets mogged by 70 year old grandpa and his ragtag fleet of half finished destroyers, third rate frigates and obsolete dreadnoughts and a bunch of retirees, cripples and part time reservists>would like have been killed in action if admiral grandpa was in his primeYang is overrated.
>>1521894>space boomer>with a mustacheLiterally unbeatable.
is the remake any good?
>>1517978Closest thing available is Republic The Revolution. But good luck getting it to run and figure how to play the fucking thing.
>>1521704>He didn't choose it though. It was his own personal characteristics that allowed it to happen.He subconsciously choose it. He always could have just stepped up and have instantly loyal followers snap into action, but he held back as the moments passed and time ran out.That is a choice, even if he would not admit so.
>>1522054>>1521894Republic war-boomers are probably the most potent and powerful force keeping republics alive, which is why the best strategy for them is usually waiting until they age or die instead of taking them head on
>>1522081nobody ever references it or posts images from it so i would assume not
>>1519790>Even Kircheis.we don't know that>>1520243story take dive after blonde brat win war with alliancereinhard should die when he was corrected by yang and orders for yang to surrender should come too latethat would make it for more interesting story
>>1521456>Reform has to come from the citizens, not the military.there was grass roots movements to fix republics but were suppressed by both paramilitary and military junta and politician classif not war with empire there might be a rebellion of citizens against current order
>>1522081
>>1522924>that would make it for more interesting storyIn a just universe Mittermeyer wins everything in the end, including the throne.
>>1522938heh
>>1522935SOVL vs SOVLESS
>>1522935DNT-Reuenthal's haircut is a crime against humanity and violates Imperial fleet regulations. Disgusting.
>>1522081It's... pointless? I guess that's the best way to describe it. It's not bad or awful, but there is no real reason to bother.
>>1522952i didnt watched it and will not bother with it
>>1522935>its in faggot bait artstyle
>>1522959
>>1517978Rai7
>>1518295Yeah, but it criminates against women, and enforces gender roles.
>>1522935Holy fuck what am i looking atHow did those retards manage to turn a beautiful, timeless artstyle into soulless slop with copy-paste faces?
>>1522976they used manga(for women) as inspiration >fujos are blightnothing new
>>1522976Well, you're looking at the "everyone must look like a massive faggot"-artstyle that is been in use for over a decade now.
>>1518277>eraTohoKwat
>>1522935>Cazzelnu>Schenkopp>Oberstein>ReuentalDamn, they did them dirty, wouldn't even be able to tell who the 2018 versions were supposed to be as stand alone images.
>>1523011
>>1523012>I recognize dudes from the start of the series despite having only seen LoGH once a couple of years ago.
>>1523016
>>1523012Where is my main man, Luneberg?He rapes his wife while thinking of Reinhard.
>>1523023I think you can see his hair at the bottom cut off, number 8 from the left.
>>1523023not sure if gaiden characters are here
>achieves the rank of Captain in his 30s as a commoner in the Goldenbaum Empire>over-aggresive ship captain sinking two enemy battleships with one volley>hand-picked by Reinhard to be in his admiralty>defeats assigned enemy fleet during Amlitzer>breaks Bucock's back during Rantemario, winning the battle for the Empire>breaks Bucock's back AGAIN, putting an end to the FPA forever>breaks Yang's back by sinking Fischer's flagship, killing him, and forcing Yang to surrender>breaks Reuenthal's back by melting his left flank and forcing him to retreat>breaks Julian's back by sinking the Hyperion and killing Merkatz>storms and jumps into a burning building to personally save and carry the Kaiser to safetyBittenfeld was the unsung MVP of the Empire and also most effective admiral.
>>1523167him and Sigfried would make perfect duo
>>1523167Don't forget that time he nearly killed Oberstein for being a scheming asshole. You just know something funny is going to happen when Bittenfeld appears on the screen.
>>1523213>>>>How about actual factual arguments instead of emotional chimpouts?
>>1517978I wonder how a game would go about capturing the spirit of LOGH.Something like Stellaris doesn't work because you are playing in an omniscient state and not as a character.So, it would have to be something like Warband, but at the same time, it would have to do more logistic planning.And you should able to see when your entire bridge is on fire and people are dying.It might not even have to be in sci-fi setting.Another thing is it shouldn't entirely be a life game because LOGH spends relatively little time in battles, but spends a lot of characters just chatting and living.I guess it would have to be:>Suzerain + Warband + Democracy + Crusader Kings
>>1523265or just make Crusader Kings 2 but in space.
>>1523299CK2 has similar omniscience as Stellaris and none of hands-on-appeal.
>>1523299Would make a fun short mod
>>1523265Sins of a Solar Empire for the space battles.>>1523225Chimpouts are way more fun-
>>1520243>He absolutely did.Bittenfeld has entered the chat.
>>1517978Play ttrpgs.
>>1523265more like these old KOEI RoTK where you could play as officer but in space
>>1517979>The Empire was objectively a decent place to live compared to that Rebel shithole.Oh God, you're not one of those idiots who tries to sell everybody on how great it was to be a medieval serf are you?
>>1523012What game?
>>1525925I thought people were meming when they said Golden Wings was bad.
>>1525925LOGH Snes version
>>1522989it is a bit of a rabbit hole, but basically there is a series of text based games that all use the same engine and most people use the suffix era to denote that. You can google it to find out more, but basically TohoK is in the vein of old JP strategy games like ROTK or Nobunaga's ambition, but set in the touhou universe and with very explicit porn elements. For a porn game it is surprisingly in depth and due to a relationship system and characters being officers, you can end up with rather convoluted situations where your own allies betray you, you can sneak up and abduct people in the middle of the night, and even assassinate leaders. It is a bit simplistic when you get to the actual combat side of things, but the engine ends up making it more indepth on the political/diplomatic side than it has any right to be.
>thread turns into a logh threadHoly kino. By the way, Reinhard was smart, but Oberstein was the real genius. The guy even let himself be killed at the end because he knew without Reinhard, everyone would try to get rid of him and that would bring instability to the nation, thus damaging what he worked so hard to achieve. It's rare to see media as based as this, I can't think of any other show that portrays authoritarianism and fascism in a good light.
>>1526259>>thread turns into a logh threadrule of Rosen Ritters: every thread containing LOGH image will derail into LOGH conversation
>>1526259>I can't think of any other show that portrays authoritarianism and fascism in a good lightIt's more of a neutral light, saying that Reinhard's empire is authoritarianism at its peak. The problem is that it is very likely doomed to fail and become the next Goldenbaum dynasty over time.
>>1526435That is definitely one of the themes people misunderstand despite one of the movies starting off with a monologue about the rise and fall of civilization. For every strong ruler of noble character you will get dozens of rulers that are corrupt and weak. I honestly like how it isn't as simple as "X system good, Y system bad" but rather "here is why these systems fail". On a deeper level too, the reason Yang failed and the Empire won in the end ties into history, in reality the competent good guy sometimes loses. Just look at one of the inpsiring works for LoGH, Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Shu, and by extension Zhuge Liang, a very clear inspiration for Yang Wenli, were portrayed as just and noble, upholding many virtues of the day, yet in the end they were defeated.
>>1526647meant to say "the kingdom of Shu".Still, if you have a passing familiarity with the work beyond I played some modern Koei slop, there are some obvious inspirations.
>>1517978guild 2 renaissance, obviously very different setting. it has all manners of politicking and zany stuff fabricating false evidence against your neighbor to buy their properties
>>1526647Glad I'm not the only one that saw the similarities. If you look at the actual history, it's even more tragic. Zhuge Liang was one of the most virtuous and talented figures of his time, an incredibly fair minister, an adept tactician and was beloved by his people and repected by his enemies. However, he still failed, because the talents of one man are not enough to turn the tide. Meanwhile, Reinhardt is flawed, always getting btfo by Yang despite his own military talents. He's emotional and rash at times, but he also has a very good team of underlings and advisors that plug the holes in his own character and thus is able to succeed.
>>1526238>TohoK is in the vein of old JP strategy games like ROTK or Nobunaga's ambitionWell, thanks for the explanation. You sold me on it.
>>1522935Not a single of the new designs is better, what the fuck.Maybe the new Cazzelnu looks more desitinguishable, I guess, through his facial features and being the sole wearer of glasses.
>>1520243>Cincinnatushate this amerishart memetry actually looking up who this person was
>>1523020Who's the Russian?
>>1528242https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Shostakovich
>>1520829>>1528236Ok, Cicero then. It doesn't matter, since i am just using them to illustrate the concept of a dictator that relinquishes his power voluntarily.Most dictators don't. But Yang might, making his lack of ambition the exact reason why he would have been the perfect temporary dictator.Yang justified his inaction by saying something like "if the people vote for their own demise, who am i to correct them?"However he ignored the fact that the FPA was so broken, that the peoples' vote didn't really matter.
>>1528585Trunicht might be a terrible leader, but ultimately the people wanted him in power. IIRC Trunicht even has a line where he talks about how the fact that someone like him could be elected is an argument against democracy itself. Yang probably should have ran for office on an anti-corruption platform, but it could easily be said that he was more valuable in the military.
>>1529103Doesn't that argument go out of the window considering Trunich had his own secret police that beat up all his opponents?
>>1529103>Yang probably should have ran for office on an anti-corruption platformI've been saying this entire time that the FPA was far too corrupt to be changed through democratic means. Just like in our "democracies", the true elite cannot be voted out of power
>>1523503Mine Lord was a good man ser a good man. When the plague came we were allowed to keep our crops and onlee mine youngest died then.
>>1517978
>>1529352>Gets to keep all his crops due to plague>His youngest son diedClearly his son died of natural causes or from parental neglect, at no fault of the good lord.
>>1529103>Yang probably should have ran for office on an anti-corruption platformNah, he would have been killed by Trunicht's goon squads. One of the few realistic ways to deal with this corruption shit was what Admiral Greenhill tried to pull off, unfortunately.
>>1528223The old Cazzelnu being plain is perfect for his character is perfect, as he is supposed to be the closest the series get to an averege joe familiy man.The new one looks like he is the younger brother of that lizard-in-fleshsuit Arakawa from Petlabor 2.
>>1529506>is perfect for his character is perfect>PetlaborSee, this is why you don't stop to rewatch the helicopter and fighter scenes of Patlabor 2 in the middle of writing a post.
>>1529482>One of the few realistic ways to deal with this corruption shit was what Admiral Greenhill tried to pull off, unfortunately.Basically this, but that also means the spirit of their system dies. This is why when a democracy hits the Byzantine event horizon, there is no recovery, you can stall it, but either you are lucky enough to have a Caesar or your entire culture gets displaced by foreign invaders.
>>1523265crusader kings but good
>my stg thread turns into /a/ LOGH threadhmm cool but sad that the games recommended I already know about
>>1529368>trillionsisn't the galaxy population like 80 billion?
>>1529723LoGH away from /a/ sounds just fine.In terms of games you could try Star Dynasties but games cannot handle character perspectives. It has to be the eye of God guiding characters. You have to see everything your orders are always understood and immediately received and enacted. A game about a single person in a system is antithetical to how things are trending.
>>1523020>Empire are Wagner enjoyersTotal Empire victory
>>1529777used to be like 400 billion or smth (or more) during Rudolfs timehe unironically reduced the population by 5x
>>1530800Where was this stated and why and how did he do it?
>>1529723The Last Federation is nothing as what you are asking as it's a premade character but it does capture the spirit.
>>1530853Have you even watched the series?
>>1529103Yang couldn't have ran shit. While Yang is a great tactician he is useless at actual leadership, people skills and politicking. He is also marred by a deep cynicism, he can see the worst in everything yet he lacks the drive to truly take advantage of it. Yang is also entirely dependent on his clique soo much so he wouldn't be able to tell when someone is subverting him. If Yang went full dictator the result would be the same but extra steps. Yang is honestly fucked no matter what he would do even if he sided with the Coup or did nothing he would be getting rid off even if he defeated the golden boy. He should have just quit when he could. By being soo good but lacking in vision/drive/goals he is a retelling of Alexander and Belisarius put together.
What's your reponse?
>>1530853It might be in the books. I don't know if the history episodes state it. I don't remember where it's from but I remember it being this fucked up. General population decline followed, but Rudolf unironically killed billions, like, dozens of billions. The anime is very lax on actual data and good maps etc.
>>1530853>>1531041I read the wiki and it says the population decline happened due to straight-up killing, widespread sterilization and eugenics.The number went down from 400 billion to 40 billion, after 500 years.
>>1531045>>1531041Rudolf basically committed hundreds of Hitlers in his lifetime, and his crimes against humanity allowed to the survivors to live very comfy rustic lifestyles.So he's very convenient in that the Empire can blame all it's sins on him and take advantage of his depopulation in the same way people benefitted after the black death.
>>1531007>If I say yes, you kill me for sure. You're Schönkopf after all. If I say no, you will give me another chance by tossing me back. But, under Imperial military law, I will be executed for cowardice in face of the enemy. See, this is a game I cannot win.
>>1529506>>1529514Based, love that film. Nigh on the best animated one ever made I want to say.
>>1530853>>1531041It's the first chapter of the books, which is a gigantic exposition dump that puts even the show to shame.
>>1531045>>1532489>eradicate 90% of the population>life of remaining population improveswow that's genius, democracy BTFO
>>1518295>(((Dominion of Freezan)))
>>1517978Dominions has almost all of that in multiplayer only, there's no singleplayer diplo yet as far as I knowYou get to:>design a Pretender God (you)>pick one of the hundred+ nations from three ages to lead, plus there's a lot of modded nations too (including a few mods to randomly generate nations)>can diplomatically ask other people to attack someone else together withyou, while you prepare a second army to backstab them with>assassins are a core part of a bunch of vanilla nations, and there are ways to give stealth+assassin to any of your commandersThat said, it's a clunky game made by two dudes and it's more of an army smashing and magic research rushing simulator than a careful balance of politics and diplomacy (or at least that's what my experience with /domg/ games has been so far, maybe other communities are better in this regard) but even then the roots of Diplomacy the boardgame are self evident in Dominions.Version 6 is coming soon, but you can still pirate Dom5 and play it even online if you dont meet another pirate
>>1533796Socioeconomic power without military backing is a paper tiger.>you owe us thisNah>we own thisNah>this is our infrastructure NahEither side could just roll a fleet onto Phezzan and in doing so received nothing but benefit from the Phezanni investment.
>>1533796Also where did you get the novel? Is the t/l good? Is the novel as much of an improvement on the OVA as one would assume? Is the entire series finished?
>>1517978>making a whole new thread just to ask about one extremely specific type of game that you know doesn't existWere you trying to bump a thread off the board or something? What's the point of making a thread for this, fucktard?
>>1540146Sorry your general got culled.
>>1529368>I wish I had a 9/10 chance of being RudolphedSmartest imperial supporter
i miss kircheis
>>1540140Novel is pretty easy to find on book pirate sites. Translation is okay but very clunky, not sure if it's the quality itself or being translated from Japanese, I haven't read other Japanese novels to compare. From what I've read (which isn't the full thing) it gives some nice extra details like how Greenhill was setting up Frederica and Yang from the get-go, but I personally prefer the OVA. Entire series has also been translated.
>>1540134>Either side could just roll a fleet onto PhezzanHey guess what happens lmao
>>1540147It's ok... you don't cross Putin and march on Moscow without consequences.
>>1517978Closest thing you got is Star Dynasties.
>>1523020>Wagner and Mozart ratio.Total republican death.
>>1531007tell the truth of courseat last I will die both as honest man and a virgin
>>1518092I could have sworn I remember internal conflicts being a thing back when it first came out but yea, its non existant now
>>1517978Closest thing rn is solo tabletop rpg I'm gonna try it out soon
>>1521878Hm cool
>>1517978Thank you, thanks to you I got to see a LOGH thread, on /vst/ of all places.>Starsector doesn't cut it>Stellaris is Marvel tier reddit game>Sins of a Solar Empire is good but doesn't have what you are looking for.Best bet is to play something like Warband or Bannerlord. The closest thing I can recommend is the mod for Warband "Caesar aut Nihil".
>>1523503>only required to work less than half the year during growing and harvesting season. >In exchange you get housed and fed and protection>free to do any side hustle or not work during the rest of the yearThe current generation cant even afford houses or food
>>1546933>In exchange you get housed and fed and protectionLet's be honest, the first two were fulfilled by the serfs themselves and some of the time the lords were like bandits themselves.
>>1547032In truth, you can write up whatever ideology or system you want. Be it Socialism, Capitalism, Feudalism or whatever. It's always going to do degrade because of the human condition and... ehm... you know... Holobunga tribe.Same shit was showed through LoGH, you can be ruled by someone like Rheinhardt who is a ruler who appears once in 500 years and there's still going to be retards who don't have the foresight or understandment of the good deeds he wants to accomplish.
>>1517978Here is what my LOGH inspired game would look like:>you are a new governor a solar system>your solar system is the frontier of a corrupt feudal empire>your solar system is poor and you are all your ships are in poor shape>furthermore, the Empire's enemies, regularly raid your solar system>you have four years (16 turns) to make the best of your situation before your term as a governor concludesevery quarter (turn) you perform actions like:>leave the solar system to your underling and visit the Emperor (or other nobles) outside of the solar system and beg him for aid>appoint one of your underlings to raid enemy territory>find resources to build new ships
>>1547044>Holobunga tribeHolodeck plus unga bunga?
>>1545521ALWAYS CROSS THE FUCKING RUBICON
>>1547415>turn basedthat's where you fuck up
>>1547681Hmm... true. How about this?> first+third person shooter> start off as random they/them person starting a new gig on a space mine> space bandits raid your shit> beat them off and get a spaceship> stumble into space conspiracy> rise through the space ranks until you can build your own space settlement> most space people are aboriginal australian
>>1546932no problem, I mean yeah I don't particularly want a space game I just want the things that I described
>>1547415>>1547696how about this.>you are a noble scion of an impoverished border system. >the year is 437 Imperial Calendar>you have ten frigates and a destroyer>pirates have occupied the resource asteroid belt and gas planet>rebels have taken over two mining colonies during the prolonged illness of your father >there is an imperial border spy site in your system which will later make the allied forces take an interest in your system>you control your home world, its moon and another habitable rural world, its terraforming having been completed a hundred years ago>you must develop this solar system, retake the occupied planets and expand>you will fight further pirates in late early game, the captain of the pirates which previously you fought in your system and a rival noble family in the mid game, who contributed to your fathers death. >the map consists of 20-40 systems, most of which you cannot take over.>in the beginning the empire issues you ships and technical expertise in trade for resources and trade (also with phezzan and other made up corps)>later you will build your own fleet years>you will probably play from late 10s to early 30s to give it a bit of scope>population dynamics are mostly migration based, seeing you grow at the expense of neighboring systems>the final mission has you fighting the splinter of an free system invasion fleet
>>1547696i know this is a joke but still, kys for this post
>>1547681What does real-time with pause actually contribute?
>>1522935What the fuck.
>>1547873literally nothing it's the baseline. turn based subtracts from that on the contrary.
>>1517978Republic the Revolution but I never got beyond needing to find the underground press.>>1522120This. The game is very vague on how you need to play it.
>>1540186If you're not a shitskin, why would you be afraid?
>>1544743The spin-off novels are still untranslated though and some weren't adapted into ovas. Expanded universe, you know.
>>1547717>Galactic Federation era>everyone is corrupt>you are Liutenant Rudolf Goldenbaum>fight the bad guys and build up your fame>eventually dodge politician conspiracies
>>1547873It depends on implementation, but real-time tends to allow for more tactical depth because you have to balance limited time when making decisions.You could also do a Paradox-style turn-based, where each "day" is a turn but is evaluated rapidly. That gives the granularity of real-time play while still giving the structure of turn-based.Turn-based tends to thrive in games where you manage a lot of things (Civilization) or have to make very carefully calculated decisions (Diplomacy, Dominions). Would the game be like that? If so, then turn-based is fine.
>Please stop repeatedly raping the woman you locked up. We're friends, I know, but this is too much...
>>1554489Calling PDX games is kind of wrong.I realize your point is that in their games, time cannot exist between two arbitrary time units (e.g. days), but the terminology for turn doesn't fit either because is like microturn.And for sake of non-autist, it's 98% identical to other real time with pause games, and shares little DNA with turnbased games.It's simple discrete vs continuous real time.EU4 = discrete real-time with pauseAge of Empires = continuous real-time with pauseCiv = sequential turnDiplomacy = simultaneous turn
>>1555262>It's simple discrete vs continuous real timeThat's a much better way to frame it, especially from a gameplay perspective.>for sake of non-autist, it's 98% identical to other real time with pause gamesI'm too used to debating this on /vrpg/, where posters are too autistic to care about that kind of stuff.
>>1522935oh my God what the FUCK
>>1555262what would 7.62 High Calibre be? simultaneous real time with pause?
>>1555817continuous real-time with pause
>>1546784I know monarchies used to have civil wars if the ruler died without an heir
>>15229351990s style faggot pretty boys vs 2000s style faggot pretty boys
>>1555168I like how the purest and most moral of all the characters was friends with the most psycopathic one.
>>1520829>a hundred Caesars and NapoleonsI wish.
>>1520243Stop analyzing fiction based on the if the characters were real you child. The idea of Yang vs. Reinhart is an allegory for autocracy vs. Democracy, and that best case scenario autocracy is still trumped by worst case scenario democracy, and if the autocracy was truly humane and just then supposedly the ruler would want people to rule themselves so it would naturally become a democracy anyway.
>>1559799>and just then supposedly the ruler would want people to rule themselves so it would naturally become a democracy anyway.Lmao, people are fucking retarded. A just ruler wouldn't let them hurt themselves too much.>but le evil paternalism and muh freedomFreedom requires the ability to understand the consequences of your actions, something that most of everyone lacks (I am not talking about simple education but actual mental ability). For an easy example, see governments everywhere forcing their citizens to save for retirement because Mr. & Mrs. dumb-dumb are literally incapable of visualizing themselves and their needs into the future.
>>1559799>Muh democracy is goodI don't recall an Athenian being any freer than a Spartan or Syracusan. The form of government has no bearing on the rights of the individual. Democracies vote for less rights all the time. Look at how the right to protest and free assembly got destroyed by the Coof in most of the supposedly free and democratic world. A powerful Autocrat can be a source of freedom simply by not being as easily bought out by interest groups. But even that is more of an argument about power centralization than how power is distributed.The reality is that the only way to increase the chances of a free society is to make the people less reliant on the government and fully able to exert force by arming the populace, which has no bearing on democracies as an armed population is very good at deterring invaders and plenty of autocracies have done that. Even that is a temporary solution as prosperity and ample peace time will make it soo being armed won't be necessary anymore and the government can bribe the people with luxuries.
>>1559799>Stop analyzing fiction based on the if the characters were real you child
>>1559806>>1559850I didn't say I agree with it retards
>MUH THIRD REICH
>>1559998He can't get quads lmao. What are you even trying to say, you fag?The Wikipedia article actually seethes about Lohengramm being portrayed as a "aestheticization of Hitler's image". Is Space Battleship Yamato as good as LoGH?
>>1560022Dictators are ambitious, attractive, give hope to their people in their darkest times, and it's possible for them to create the best nations in the world. But despite all of that, democracies are still better because all people deserve to decide their own fates. I don't agree with either side. I'm just saying this is the moral of the story.
>>1560022Also chuds on 4chins side with reinhart because they're nazis who want a pretty blonde aryan dictator who will fix all their problems and make them "great again"
>>1560065>democracies are still better because all people deserve to decide their own fatesCan you decide your own fate in a Democracy?Democracy, like Marxism, sounds nice in theory but always devolves into tyranny. Communism turns Authoritarian, Democracy becomes Oligarchical. The difference is that in a Democracy, the people do not see who actually rules them: it is not the guy with the red/blue tie, but instead the men who allowed you to have a choice between the guy with the red or the blue tie. I'm German, and let me tell you that adding more tie colours does not change a thing. Democracy is perfidious like that and the parasites in power survive by turning brother against brother, all in accordance with the law.Hierarchy and struggle are inherent not only to human society, but to life in general. All who deny it are liars. The OVA did not reveal enough about Lohengramm's policies to actually classify him as a Third Positionist. I've not seen anyone pro-NatSoc flaunting Lohengramm as an example of it. Designating him as such seems like people screeching about any positive depiction of outwardly authoritarian government. The kind of people who say "literally Hitler" without irony
>>1560163>The OVA did not reveal enough about Lohengramm's policies to actually classify him as a Third PositionistIf all parallels between hitler and reinhart were listed it would be fair to say there are a lot of similarities. It doesn't have to be as explicit as having the same policies. Don't take it from me, the author himself said so >>1560022As for democracy vs. marxism vs. whatever else, I couldn't care less. All political ideologies and worldviews based on enlightenment thought and secularist laws can go to hell. I support strict Sharia based on classical orthodox jurisprudence.
>>1560163MB that wasn't the author >>1560022 but the point stands
>go to /vst/>it's /a/ in disguiseI hate you faggots so much, like you wouldn't believe.
>>1560681Anime imageboard, Reddit.
>>1560681>go to /vst/>it's /a/ in disguise>but after 100 posts I discover it's /pol/ in disguiseI'm guessing it'll turn into /k/ in disguise next, discussing the legality of owning private battleships in a high trust society.
>>1560163Least typical German post. If you're not minding your μῦθος and Männerbund at all times you literally cannot be German. Res publica est omnis divisa in partes tres: proletarii, patricii et mulieres.Zivilisten bauen Gewehre und züchten Pferde, schmieden Schwerter, ernten Felder, unterhalten Frauen.Offiziere herrschen, kämpfen, besitzen, und schlafen mit Frauen.Frauen bringen neue Offiziere in die Welt.
>>1561653>High Trust SocietyWhere?
>>1520829>american thinks washington is in any wy comparable to caesar and napoleon, to cincinnatus. >thinks washington is even better>mfw >notsurprised.jpg
>tfw I doubted Oberstein until the very endforgive me
>>1517978Terra Invicta kinda? Or Shadows of Forbidden God's?
