Would a British Empire formed by a Western Roman rump state in Britannia have been superior to the Angloid empire of history?
>>1450040>superiorprobably not because it would presumably just be a giant larp as opposed to any unique regional identityhowever I do think it would be interesting from a game perspective to see them constantly try to get involved in the continent to restore the empire
>>1450040every single European empire already LARPed as Romans, so no difference whatsoever
>>1450055>>1450046This isn’t larping retard this is the actual Roman state, continuing the actual Roman culture of late antiquity (:Larpers never came close to emulating it because they never understood it truly, they never lived it.>>1450048>constant wars in Gaul to keep the Franks from conquering the Goths and Burgundians and keeping them weak and divided
>>1450040Romans went about mutting everything up and generally allowed for multiculti nonsense (which helped lead to the end of their empire) while Anglo colonisation was oriented around clearing out land for Anglos and either exterminating or forcibly assimilating natives in the process. This hypothetical globe-spanning Roman Empire would have collapsed and left a bunch of dysgenic impoverished states extremely similar to the remnants of the Spanish and Portuguese empires.
>>1450064Amazing that your understanding of the empire you hate and the one you love is completely false.
>>1450040Yes. It would have had a much higher population, better literacy, better infrastructure, better food, better women and a populace that wasn't divided into their own little Kingdoms.
>>1450133This is because IRL Britannia became mostly a poor shithole with the fall of Rome but more internal stability and an earlier unification by a Roman successor state would have allowed them to prosper much earlier than in our time. Which would make them a fairly formidable state by the time the New World is discovered. Actually they might end up accidentally discovering it themselves because Romans loved their spices.
>Mod stopped updating because they decided to very slowly port to CK3
>>1450146the fate of virtually every ck2 mod sadly, though more an indictment of how criminally paradox has handled 3 than anything else.
>>1450040romans hated boats and thought the navy was for fags so someone who actually knows how to sail would have rolled up on them and stolen their island sooner rather than later.
>>1450530>romans hated boats and thought the navy was for fagsThis is complete horseshit you retard. Rome was ultimately a maritime empire. The Mediterranean was their lifeblood, and they had extensive naval organization for river, and littoral operations to supply their vast logistical needs and defense. When they weren’t the sole land power they created premier naval forces for their defense (Byzantines during early to high Middle Ages or Rome against Carthage). Rome’s fleet was professional and second to none.
>>1450534no, you're confused. the GREEK fleet was second to none.
>>1450545Oh you’re one of those subhumansYeah back to /pol/ retard
>>1450667more roman than the german clusterfuck larping as rome
>>1450655>/pol/Hitler hated the HRE though
>>1450700/pol/ isn't just nazis anymore, old mannow it's migafags, nato/american military industrial complex worshippers, actual intelligence agents from all over, the works
>>1450073>nuh-uh! Cope, mutt.
>>1450040(Britanno-)Roman culture is completely different to the individualist Anglo-Saxon culture that molded England and the British Empire, litterally all of post Anglo-Saxon invasion british history has to be thrown out of the window.If you want to find out if it would have been superior, you will first have to figure out what cultural norms and ideas (Britanno-)Roman culture would have and how it would be shaped by its future history up to modern day.The Roman Britannic Empire would not have the Magna Carta, No ECW/War of the Roses, or any of the Anglo-Saxon saints. No Henry to break with Catholic Rome to have legal divorces, no Church of England, no pilgrims in America. The Romans never cared about their navy, would the RBE make the Royal Navy and rule the waves? Would the RBE start the anti-slavery patrols?
>>1450741Nothing to cope overYou’re just fucking retarded and don’t know shit about history
>>1450743>The Romans never cared about their navyFalse
>>1450040Winter King has such an amazing map. I've always wanted a heptarchy MP game with each player playing as one of the Anglo-saxon kingdoms.>>1450146Any idea how well that's going?
>>1450746hilarious coming from some fat negrophilic shart who probably LARPs as a roman like his founding fathers
>>1450741>a celt who was raped by a roman who was raped by a german who was raped by a norman who was raped by a pakie is calling other people muttsAnglos are the ultimate mutts, the whole reason they invented white identity is because they lack any other
>>1450146>decided to very slowly portDidn't they just drop mod?I thought they said there isn't development even in planning part for ck3
>>1450846>they invented white identity is because they lack any otherAmerican invention.
>>1450848I googled around and found their githubs which both seem to be being worked on. So work is happening it's just split between updating the mod that actually exists and is very playable and the mod that isn't out yet for the game that still gets constant mod breaking updates.
>>1450064Spanish and Portuguese empires collapses due the eternal Alglo hating a united white western.
>>1450907No it isn’t
>>1450064In places with significant native populations the British didn’t do anything differently than the Spanish. India, Indonesia, Africa, the Caribbean, South America, etc. were all let unsettled by Europeans. Even Rhodesia and South Africa were never majority white, and are full of “coloured” (mixed) people. If Britain conquered the Aztecs there’d be a race of muttstizos that speak English in Mexico just like Belize. And the Romans existed in a period of history when “mutting” anyone was logistically fucking impossible. The sheer volume of colonization necessary for something like that just wasn’t feasible. Not that it should matter to you since you obviously cannot consider Europeans mixing mutting and then talking about the pan-European colonies as pure in the same breath faggot.
>>1450064>>1451350Also the downfall of Rome had nothing to do with “multiculti” and anyone who actually gives a shit about history would never spew shit so stupid onto their screen.
>>1450138>>1450040Actually this did already happen. Arthur reunited Britain, conquered Gaul and Rome itself.
>>1450743I'm sure you could draw parallels between it and Gallo-Roman since they're both a result of Romans encountering Celts.
>>1451321The British has never considered the Irish, Germans, French, or what have you as the same as themselves. If you ain't a brit, you were not worth shit.Europe has been about ethnicity, religion, and nationality. Not if the fucker you are shanking is black, white, or purple.
>>1450545? It's structure, tactics and organisation was built by the Roman government>Romans never cared about their navy,they did though, it was vital to their survival during the Arab advancement
>>1452194>people>giving a fuck about nations before the XVIIIFinish high school before posting your hot takes online.
>>1450040Are we posting megacampaigns or what?
>>1452409Germany has a disturbingly close shape to the US in that picture there.
>>1452537I... I guess...?
>>1450064recent discoveries in archeogenetics proves mutting happened only inside the major cities of the empire (Rome, Alexandria, Antioch, and so on) the countryside stayed mostly the sameThe western roman empire fell due to civil wars, losing africa and having non-assimilated germanic tribes in it. the eastern roman empire lasted 1000 years more.
>>1453089Fucking cityfags, why's it always them? Pol Pot was right.
>>1452194>the british has never considered themselves a mix of anglos and saxonsOK.
>>1450846Why are leftists trying to push the meme that white didn’t exist and it’s a modern anglo invention? The caste system was created to keep whites separate from poos. Even romans had a concept of white, yes they viewed northerners as barbarians but saw them still as the same people as themselves, and they didn’t see North Africans like that. Same with the Greeks, they knew they had a relation to the northern barbarians, probably from all the aryan symbology and religion and langauge all being similar and related >>1450846That’s not how that works. All of that is literally the same race minus paki and no anglos have paki blood.Also most invasions don’t leave much a genetic impact contrary to poplar belief. The French aren’t frankish. The turks aren’t turkish, and the Balkan aren’t slavic.
>>1452537Now he needs to get Jutland for "Alaska"
>>1452409>>1452548Did you make that yourself?How hard is it to mod vic 2 start and nations?
>>1450040This would be pretty interesting honestly, a sort of Byzantium situation, but in the West. It would probably affect how the whole Charlemagne being crowned Emperor situation plays out, might not happen at all if Britain is there claiming to be Emperor. Their relations with Byzantium would also be interesting, I imagine.And unlike Byzantium, thanks to their geography, they would probably survive quite long, perhaps even into modern day, and if they don't fall to revolutions or something they might still be larpin'
>>1453556>Did you make that yourself?Yep, I started in CK2 all the way to 1936, every conversion modded by hand, without any tools>How hard is it to mod vic 2 start and nations?Pretty straightforward, just tedious to do; then again I've done it like 15 times by now for 15 different megacampaigns
>>1452194They always considered those ethnicities to be white and therefore distinctly above non-Europeans. If you’re trying to pretend that Europeans didn’t treat their fellow Europeans as more “equal” than fucking shitskins you’re deluded beyond belief.
>>1452194Why did De Gaulle specifically say French people were of the “white European race”? He wasn’t an American
>>1454314He was chud. He was an anglo Saxon capitalist colonialist or else who wouldn’t have fucking said it ok?
>>1450040>>1450743Basically these, it would have been a tempered Celtic entity, in many ways the Anthesis to the British identity that existed in real life.>>1450064In short, this anon is correct, it would be very similar to Iberia in real life in terms of it's cultural values and how it does things
>>1452361based intelligent anon making the midwit seethe
>Well, then, had I been at Martinique, I should also have been on the side of the English, because above all things it is necessary to save one's life. I am for the whites, because I am white; I have no other reason, yet that is reason good enough. How was it possible to grant liberty to the Africans, to men without any kind of civilization, who did not even know what a colony meant, or that there was such a place as France? It is quite evident, that those who proposed the emancipation of the blacks must with for the slavery of the whites; but after all, do you suppose that if the majority of the Convention had seen what they were doing and been acquainted with the colonies, they would have persisted in granting freedom to negros? Doubtless not; but few person were is a situation to foresee the consequences at the time, and a sentiment of humanity always appeals powerfully to the imagination. But at present, for for any one to persist in these principles, is to show a want of good faith; it is mere pride and hypocrisy. What did Napoleon Bonaparte mean by this? Was American cultural imperialism already so strong back then?
>>1453884Are you making custom localisations/flags? If so congratulations, but also, what a big waste of time. Good for you I suppose.
>>1455391>Are you making custom localisationsYes>flags?YesDoing it it's 75% of the fun honestly