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>>1361146I heard that Pacifica developed Iberia, which explains why it's so bad.
>>1361146Panzer life and everything that come of it - is a great crime against the existance itself.
>>1361199I'm not gonna here and listen you badmouth greatest modder the world has ever known
>>1361206>gonna here*stand here
Tranny mod
Does the Zhujin cop fuck the journalist chick in any of the paths?
>>1361206
>>1361303No, she strings him along for 10 years
>>1361312Fuck off tranny. Without panzer there would be no TNO
>>1361334Exactly. Therefore Panzer should never have been born.
>>1361321Damn, being a Zhujin is hard, bros...
who is the most autistic russian unifier? not the looking for who would be the best or worst unifier here just the most autistic of them.
>>1361551Sablin
>>1361551Lysenko
>play Germany>go with Göring>win the civil war>no treeWhy did they delete it? And why is there no warning about the lack of content?
>>1361623official reason: some of the content was kinda broken and they want to rework the entire german power struggle in the (nearTM) futurereal reason: we're seeing a dev team of mostly new coders slowly replacing core aspects of the mod in favour of their own vision and implementing their own concepts so they can make it "their" mod
>>1361206>>1361334Panzer is a tranny, idiot.
>>1361664>Tranny accuses someone of being a trannyPanzer always makes trannies seethe, he lives rent free in their small heads.
>>1361641The game literally crashed if you tried to do one of the warplans. It was unplayable.
>>1361641>real reason: we're seeing a dev team of mostly new coders slowly replacing core aspects of the mod in favour of their own vision and implementing their own concepts so they can make it "their" modIt's honestly hilarious we're seeing the mod go backwards just to satisfy some johnny come lately's ego.
>>1361551Tabby is the most 'tism-esque.>obsession>no empathy>disregards what people think>secretly correct
>>1361766>>1361641Kaiserreich did the same thing and it led to the mod dying when the "Johnny come lately" guys also left and everyone just sort of forgot what they were supposed to be reworking towards.I expect TNO will die a similar death
total panzerite death
>ha take that Panzerities we are now focusing all development on making you seethe>*mod development withers and dies*Entropic Liberalism strikes again
>>1361820>guandong just released>mod dev is "dead"meds panzertroon
>sweet a MitHC-esque mod where the Nazis won>actually Nazis are le bad now play our VN to see how liberalism can still winTranny mod
>>1361920It's even worse than that. TNO is "how dare you fight wars in this grand strategy war game, don't you know it's the 1960's and any and all conflict means instant nuclear death?"Meanwhile, in reality...
>>1361758it is literally one line of code tops that has to be fixed for the like 4 game crashing bugs in görings treeif TNO devs want to claim that fixing 5 lines of code will take them years and would take away precious time from developing a japanese puppet state they have to be retarded
>>1361701No, Panzer is legit a tranny.
>>1362198>>1361701
>>1362248So the plague consumed yet another one.
>>1362248Is this his way of coping with the fact that pacifica pegs him?
>>1362248>hoi4 mod dev>transa tale as old as hoi4
>>1361914>2 years of development >1 nation>"Ha! Look! We aren't dead! Take that panzerites!">>1362248>Zero proofs besides trannies rambling about grooming someone like they always do
>>1362378>>Zero proofs besides trannies rambling about grooming someone like they always dowhy dont you go ask Panz- whoops! Can't deadname... LONELY KNIGHTESShttps://steamcommunity.com/id/AFellowStalker
this mod is so fucking badly handled i'm suprised that the spergs here haven't tried to make their own better one
>>1362398They did my boy dirty...
Dead mod, glad to see niggers on here aren't shilling/defending like they used to. Spend 10x more time removing content than making it, this mod is run like a modern tech company
>>1362457Why do trannies do this?Is it a misery loves company type thing where they double down on their delusions and try to induct others into it?
>>1362522>he has just now figured out the TNO writers are dogshit
>>1362522>>1362523What is the problem here? Ibuka was in fact protestant irl
>>1362397Yeah the Yakuza are not as useful as the Triads.+ Expat support is useless because as Ibuka it will always be high. You're better of just having Police in all regions.
>>1362379Matsushita and Ibuka: All PoliceMorita: Triads in 3 rural regions, Police in the restKomai: All Kempeitai
New subid for Mexico
>>1362407they did and it fell apart lol
>>1362407they did, iron grip is still in development however.
so what have they removed/retconned since TT?
How do I deal with Guangdong Riot? I can’t dismantle anyone because I have 0 support for the other company.
>>1363235Himmler now has 9 inch bratwurst canonically
>>1362407they did, but their "better" version always will be much worse.
Last thing I heard about this fucking shit-tier mod was when the sneedwaffen brigade exposed them, just fucking play kaiserredux man it's the best hoi4 mod.
>>1363466I play both. Why does it have to be a retarded pissing contest?
>>1363582mainly cause panzer and his friends were pieces of shit, and even when separating the work from the creators TNO reads like some edgy teen fiction with nazis.
New bangers just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiYOTXRXC-Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJWFqXB1f90https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCXG7HGALohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZazNiP2qWSE
>>1363598Still the best mod in existence
>>1363598>TNO reads like some edgy teen fiction with nazis.And that was what's cool about it.It's just some cheap fun, not everything must be serious.
>>1363683shilling goes hard
>>1363157While I and the rest of the team are flattered I would hesitate to call us a "better tno" since we have not and choose to not incorporate many of the elements and frame work of tno such as the economics, ui, technology, lore, etc. Feel free to compare settings, philosophy, etc but implying or hinting we are going to be better is false advertising and we would rather be honest and transparent with what he have and what we are capable of.
Is there a route for Dirlewanger to go Attila mode and assemble a horde to put the Steppe and Europe to the sword? I always thought that would be an incredibly cool RP. "If you had not committed such sins, God would not have turned me against you."
>>1363837No
>>1363837Sir. this is TNO, no fun allowed. And yeah we also deleted Burgundy, Bogi Smerti and B.E.E.F because fuck you!
>>1363837>>1363853>funmore like cringe
>>1363855You will never be a real woman
>>1363857rent free
>>1363889>>1363855does this tranny have nothing better to do kek
>>1363669mid, all the TNO songs are fucking boring exept Burgundian lullaby and last light.
>>1362248>>1362378I'm sorry to say that "Pink"Panzer was prophetic all along.
>>1363837No, the Dirlewanger path is part of the Southern Urals area which was only a demo region, with nothing to do after unifying the southern urals.Same thing with Lysenko's Magnitorsk, and the Ural league and the other one.
>>1364064>>1362870>>1362878Lol first Pacifica steals his idea for using TNO to join Paradox and now he loses his manhood. TNO is cursed
>>1364064> the white nationalist-to-tranny pipeline resumes work
Why do you care so much about Panzer? He has nothing to do with TNO anymore.
>>1364296TNO has no new content coming as the death of any updates on Italy prove, so all we can do is shitpost how every dev on TNO becomes a tranny or let the thread die
>>1361146>Bormann, a confirmed British spy is somehow leader of Conservative faction, not at least liberal or reformist.
>>1364064>i realized i was gender queer when someone told me
>>1364383breaking news: autistic nerd bullied into becoming trans by nihilistic death cultin a sane era these people would be isolated from the publicthe only way they can bring some small bit of joy into their lives is by indoctrinating other poor, lost souls into their hellish pit of existencethey'll never get back what they lost, but they CAN make the decision to stop victimizing othersor they can keep acting like crabs in a bucket, dragging innocents back down with them to wallow in misery, proving that they deserve every cruel word uttered on this site
>>1364346>Beria, a confirmed British spy is somehow leader of Conservative faction, not at least liberal or reformist.
>>1364305>death of any updates on Italy proveWait what? What happened?
>>1364346>Bormann, a confirmed British spySource? Sounds like a bullshit conspiracy theory.
>>1361146>that sub ID description They really took all those paragraphs to say nothing of substance at all.It's clear that the devs have actually zero understanding of the ideologies they're writing, and no will to learn in order to improve their product.
>>1364576Work on your reading comprehension. The text does describe the traits of Bormann's brand of nazism which are total partification of the State and society, party elitism, less factionalism and whatever else Bormann comes up with, all the while calling itself trve (orthodox) nazism.
>>1364517You haven't noticed they completely stopped Teasing Italy?
>>1364064imagine falling for the gender identity memenewsflash: literally no one would care if they suddenly changed gender
>>1361800>Pajeet update was announced 4 years ago>Russia update was announced 3 years ago>it's 2023 and still nothingMeanwhile they updated China like three times and made reworks for such significant and interesting to play nations as Georgia, Armenia, Haiti and Lithuania. Oh, and the only side they updated in US Civil War was Syndicalists. Of fucking course.
>>1362457It's not just a fetish, it's a also sign of incredible loneliness. "No gf so become the gf" is a common saying amongst trannies. These people will jerk off while wearing girls' clothes because it's the only way they can simulate the feeling of another woman beside them. Look more into auto gynephilia. Obviously, a HOI4 modder is probably isn't someone who was too popular at school, so it's natural that these communities will have an overrepresentation of trannies.
>>1361146STOP FUCKING TALKING ABOUT GOD DAMNED TRANNIES AND TALK ABOUT TNO FOR FUCKS SAKE
>>1364879There is nothing to discuss. No new clever strategies to beat impossible odds as a minor nation, no new paths for new countries, the latest update was discussed from the wholesome 100 to the cursed and dark, there is nothing to discuss until another content drop happens.
>>1364879alright who would you say is the most mid russian unifier? not the worst or best just the most mid and don't give me any caps fr
>>1364786That doesn't mean development has stopped.
>>1363837there is a submod for that I think
>>1364926Every democratic unifier
>>1364926Conservative Vyatka
My game crash everytime i play guangdong and the product launch event pop up:[00:10:37][gui.cpp:927]: Undefined GUI_TYPE: data_set_item - This will most likely crash the game[00:10:37][gui.cpp:408]: Error: Failed to create containerWindowType "data_set_item".[00:10:37][gui.cpp:927]: Undefined GUI_TYPE: data_set_item - This will most likely crash the game[00:10:37][gui.cpp:408]: Error: Failed to create containerWindowType "data_set_item".
>>1364926Mid in which way?In how good of a country it would be or how fun it is?If it's about the quality of country, then probably Petlin's Magadan. On one hand the poverty reduction is solid and the country is a real democracy, but on the other it's still a shithole with no worker's protections or environmental protections, with a state religion and with women banned from the workforce.If we're talking content, then Vyatka. Vyatka has very little flavor, no real story. Few events.
>>1365728>women are banned from the workplaceThis is actually good though. Seems the experiment of doubling the workforce didn't go well for anyone in the Western world save for hypercapitalist oligarch types.
>>1365735Yea but democracy is bad, which is why petlins magadan is mid
>>1364926tabby just feels like someone had a grudge against monarchists writing himit feels like it's trying to persecute some imaginary strawman the writers made up and ends up trying too hard>'look, le 25 hour workdays!'>'look, he le melts people skin off with chemical warfare, how wacky!'>'do you get you are a bad person yet?'i don't get the point of the HRE beyond shock value, yet the c*mmunity treats it like it's some major thingalso don't get me started on the black league i don't like tabby but i HATE the black league
>>1365854LE SHOVEL ECKS DEE
>They're removing Burgundy and just making it a Degrelle PuppetFuck this. I am fuming.For how unrealistic the idea of Himmler running a schizo giga concentration camp of a nation, attempting to assasinate Hitler and get an SS-aligned Germany - before saying fuck it all and nuking everything is, it was fun.And I know for a fucking FACT Himmler won't be as interesting as a Fuhrer candidate.tbf it is quite funny they're removing the most well-known thing about their mod for no fucking reason AFTER neutering it
>>1365981>for no fucking reasonlore consistency
>>1365990You will never be a real woman
It's sad watching TNO getting lobotomized one interesting idea at a time, but at the same time this is just revealing how much of a meme this entire VN and setting were. How exactly can Burgundy be the best army in the world when they are nothing more than a bunch of LARPers who haven't fought anyone competent for decades? Why is Germany terror bombing central Russia and Africa when bombs do not grow on trees? Why are they skullfucking their own economy by using slave labor? Where do all these slaves come from? I thought the Nazis wanted to exterminate the lesser races, not use them as slaves throughout the 50's and 60's.This is all just delusional fanfiction of a group of closeted jackboot fetishists.
>>1366087>Why is Germany terror bombing central Russia and Africa when bombs do not grow on trees?desperate attempt too keep the economy alive I guess + this was literally what they intended to do + german autism
>always see Speer/Bormann win the GCW>set it to Heydrich for one game to see what he does>fucking THERMONUCLEAR WAR out of nowhereI thought he'd set up a collab with Himmler or something first. I didn't even get any events he was doing this, and I WAS burgundy.They're fixing Goering but not this?
>>1366087>Why is Germany terror bombing central Russia and Africa when bombs do not grow on treesle bruhgundy infiltration>Why are they skullfucking their own economy by using slave laborle wages of destruction>How exactly can Burgundy be the best army in the worldIs it? I always thought they dumpster France because they're the literal worst European army, not because Burgundy is good.
>tfw you will never be a burgundian multimillionaire in USA
>>1366087>I thought the Nazis wanted to exterminate the lesser racesNo, only (mainly) the jews. Read about Generalplan Ost and Germany's plans for Eastern Europe
>>1366101That obly happens if you play as Burgundy and Heydrich wins. If you play as any other tag that doesn't trigger.
>>1366140What does he do normally then?And why does he fire nukes specifically while I'm Burgundy anyway?
>>1366157Allies slavs and jews, defeats Himmler and saves the world, kills himself. Trannies have been criticizing Panzer for "whitewashing" Heydrich but I think it was a pretty good story
>>1366139I have. They involved liquidating all the slavs and retarded agrarian communes.
>>1366163They still wanted a slave caste. One of the things mentioned was making sure the slavs had no access to advanced education, only being taught the very basics.
>super events
>>1366087>How exactly can Burgundy be the best army in the world when they are nothing more than a bunch of LARPers who haven't fought anyone competent for decades? Why is Germany terror bombing central Russia and Africa when bombs do not grow on trees? Why are they skullfucking their own economy by using slave labor? Where do all these slaves come from? I thought the Nazis wanted to exterminate the lesser races, not use them as slaves throughout the 50's and 60's.This is why realism was pointless. This all started from a forum game from a now dead website, it was a great Hollywood Nazi and Four way Cold War prompt that is ruined by the push for realism.That is not to say you could never have plausibility within the established setting, but it needs to be set in stone from the start.TNO also suffered because of Pink Panzers "I actually secretly enjoy writing about mass death" edge events where the four horsemen of the Apocalypse are invoked, Cannibal Britbongs eat Indians, and Presidents are cursing like edgy teenagers to their generals were removed. It was too genuine for the new irony posioned devs.
>>1365468>>1364926Is there even a point to Vyatka when the Transbaikal Principality exists?At least Baikal has that whole last refuge of the white russians going on.
>>1366740Is there are a reason for 100 boring ussr unifiers?
>>1366623And now Panzer is HRT-poisoned. Discord was a fucking mistake and I pray for world clean.
>>1366623>>1366797stop pretending this shit was any good
>>1366857You will never be a real modder. You have no talent, you have no unique ideas, you have no skills. Your new "realistic" TNO is a crude mockery of PinkPanzer's perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your subscribers are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “fans” laugh at your lore retcons behind closed doors.Players are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of modding have allowed hoiers to sniff out toozer mods with incredible efficiency. Even reworks that are “okay” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your gameplay loop is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy to play your mod, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a crash from of your sloppy, bugged, convoluted gui.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the deadlines creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a stupid event at the start of english civil war.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>1366740>Is there even a point to VyatkaIf you want to larp as a traitor but KONR are too anti-German for your liking>>1365854tabby is a schizo, or rather he has a bad case of neurosyphilis (he had syphilis IRL), he's not even really evil, just crazy. The real question is how did he get anyone to follow him in the first place.
>>1366879Traitor to who? Unlike Vlasov Vlad never served communists, calling him a traitor is objectively wrong.
>>1366881Traitor to Russia in generalSame way Pu Yi was still a traitor to China despite owing no loyalties to KMT or commies
>>1366117>burgundian multimillionaireno such thing as a burgundian with money
>>1366893>Russia in generalBolsheviks betrayed Russia by wishing it's defeat and civil war. It's like Mao betraying KMT and giving half of China to Japan and then crying about KMT being traitors to China. Soviets have no moral high ground and helping to kill them is a duty of every sane Russian, since all they can do is shit their pants and lose to germans three times in a row.
>>1366932>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST LOOSE AGAINST THE NUMERICALLY, MORE WELL EQUIPED, AND TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED FOE THREE TIME IN A ROW DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT WAS CLEARLY A WIN USING THE WINTER WAR AS A PRECEDENTGod I fucking hate you cucks of Harbin. what we need is soviet government that can develoop nukes and kill all the germans and then we win.
>>1366932If Germans were winning so hard why did they need help in the first place, cuck? Just sit back and let the krauts do their thing, and by "thing" I mean bombing what's left of Russia into Fallout
>>1366946>what we need is soviet government that can develoop nukes and kill all the germansThey will just suck dick for a fourth time. >>1366954Germans didn't need KONR and Vladimir 3, Russia needed them to save russians from two retarded tyrannical regimes. Germany could have fucked soviets without their help, but they wanted to save manpower.
>>1366987Save Russians by helping Germans kill more Russians? This is some Tabby-tier logic here. In fact that's why Vlad is Himmler's top guy.>Germans didn't need KONR and Vladimir 3Holy cope.>Germany could have fucked soviets without their help, but they wanted to save manpower.Why help Germans save manpower? How is that of any benefit to Russia?
>>1366857Nah, if this mod had nothing to it then it would have died week 1 like calm before the storm. There was something there and it is a shame that every right wing chud had such an ego they tried to make shitty spin offs instead of just forking TNO and making submods for it like the Chinese community is doing.
What is your personal headcanon for how the world ends up in 2000?
I only give a fuck about Muti
>>1367177Devs already confirmed worldwide communism by the year 2030.
>>1367180>not being a Gianichad>>1367181There's no official canon anymore, you retard
>>1367044Save russians by preventing USSR from killing more russians in pointless wars that they had no chance of winning due to their incompetence.> In fact that's why Vlad is Himmler's top guy.No, he is Himmler's top guy because he is based and strong enough to drag Germany into nuclear war, which is what Himmler wants.>How is that of any benefit to Russia?Destruction of retarded commies and chance of reuniting under sane government.
>>1367426top kek mein bruder, I simply kek at communism! based polandball comics and r/politicalcompassmemes for teaching me about capitalism
>>1367450You will never be a real woman
>>1367453huh? i was agreeing with you?? so glad we were taught about the real harsh truths of economics, history, and politics by reddit and 4chan and not some crummy globalist institution like school
>>1367426>Save russians by preventing USSR from killing more russians in pointless wars that they had no chance of winning due to their incompetence.Damn, if only someone did this huge favor for OTL Germans.
>>1367044>>1367426Old lore, Burgundy doesn't support Vlad anymore
>>1367490Old lore is the only lore that was, while stupid, at least semi-consistent though. The whole "WRW - SS rebellion - Germans reaching out to Vlad/KONR for help - Himmler getting Burgundy - Himmler's retarded plans" thing was designed as a single story with a single throughline.I find it pointless to discuss "new lore" some parts of which will be changed 3 times by the end of the year, and the others will never see the light of day
>>1366987>soviets fire the new nukes>they all fail and blow up in the silos>somehow still stalemates the german (likely from the entire country giving you cancer)
so what happens if you just don't join the war against south africa as one of the reichskommisariats?
>>1367784Sequence break, but I am positive there is some means to force war on you.
>hijacks and derails your gameThe devs might be gutting the mod and butchering it into something that will look completly different but at least the devs updated nikolai's friendship crussade to keep it functional.
>>1361241/thread/
>>1367181actually or is this another meme?
>>1367177Devs already confirmed TND by the year 2030.
Main theme of the next update. Gonna miss Silicon Dreams ngl.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74LbBrinAe8
Panzer identifies as female now?
>>1369141Got reworked like tno itself, give him couple of years now and you wont recognize him.
>>1368958Is that the newest TNO spinoff?
>>1361146>be me>middle age m, bald with no wife and kids, aussie>I am a moderator in a grand strategy game mod about nazis created by my bestie>nigga with a commie baby eater pfp fall under my sight>he is also Albanian, another thing I hate>threating to ban him>he creates a server group to bully me>they eventually lead the other moderators to argue with me for slurs abt trans people I wrote>everyone hates me, gonna leave>ping everyone with baby blue before leaving>it's so over, the aryan race has lost>deleting my loli hentai from the PC, a portal opens behind my backI'm coming to Agartha, Herr Hitler
>>1369575>baby blueHuh?
>>1369575Isn't this anime girl a rendition of Ukraine's literal tranny mascot, that Cirillo he-bitch?
>>1369575who asked
>>1369680
>>1369790>muh heydirch reworkYOU FUCKING BASTARD! PANZER IS THE HERO AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HIS HEYDRICH! I LITERALLY SHED A TEAR WHEN I PLAYED IT, NONE OF YOU FAGGOTS CAN EVER DO THAT
we are not so different from each other you know cucked tno bros?>>1369817Don't worry, there has to be another fag that will pick up from where he left and proceed to rework instead of attempting to do something original(But seriously what the fuck most of the things they rework are fine as they are, it makes sense to add not to delete!)
>>1369852>it makes sense to add not to delete!If I was a minor dev and there was someone I really hated I would propose to "rework" all his work out and replace it with my vision.
>>1369817>>1369852Heydrich literally takes Germany out of the cold war. Railroaded collapses no matter what you do aren't fun
>>1369919Add not delete, paths can co exist in the same fanfiction mod
>>1369575>discord dramanobody gives a fuck, work on the mod or go edate somewhere else
>>1369919>Railroaded collapses no matter what you do aren't funYes they are
>>1369919>Railroaded collapses no matter what you do aren't funRailroaded collapses are just an instrument to tell a story with. They can be fun (Heydrich, Taboritsky) or unfun (Iberia) depending on the execution.
>>1364562He mixed it up a bit. The accusation placed against Bormann was that he was a spy for the Soviets, not the British. This accusation took place because it was discovered that someone within the higher ranks of the NSDAP was radioing valuable intel to the Soviet government. Naturally, because Bormann was formerly aligned with the more left-leaning branch of the NSDAP, was an atheist, and his corpse could not be accurately verified in the aftermath of WW2, people gained the impression that Bormann was the culprit. Of course, it is impossible to accurately confirm this, but that raises the question- If not Bormann, who was it?In my opinion, his left-leaning history and atheist beliefs weren't really the cause of his defection- his history as an early freikorps member and an "old fighter" of the NSDAP should be enough to show that he was at the least partially ideologically motivated. However, everyone could see how the war was going to end up in 1944, and he was primarily a survivalist. He must have thought that betraying Germany would lead to him not receiving a bullet to the skull. And that may have just been true, it is likely that he died around 1970, after which his corpse went into the grave.
>>1366139>>1366163Both of you are retarded. The worst Generalplan Ost proposed was deportation, nowhere does it ever talk about slavery. If Germany won ww2, they would have empowered their collaborationists.
>>1361146I'm just waiting for TNO to die off so that Iron Grip can take over
>>1370920>Iron gripnever coming out, also dead>>1371541Funny that ponyshit was the last real update for this dead mod, it is fitting
>>1371587Fitting and ironic, as the crossover uses lore that nu tno devs has been deleting for a while or "reworking".Its also content that adds to tno instead of permanently changing it for the worst.
>>1371587Oh yeah also tno devs did not ponylon, even the changelog said they outsourced cavalry or some joke like that
>>1371709I'll never understand why devs prioritize useless economic gimmicks over actual gameplay>>1371587it'll only be dead as long as TNO keeps being artificially inflated
>>1372088>as long as TNO keeps being artificially inflatedwdym? I think TNO's popularity is well-deserved. It's unrefutably one of the most high-quality mods there are, even if you don't agree with the new design choices.
>>1370498Kike.
>>1371541The human and ponies stability mechanic was a foreshadowing for hippogriffia with the hipogriffs and sea ponies balance system, they also share the race-shifting magical mcguffin>le epic magic event happens and nikolai turns into a pony with magic crystals>the story proceeds to take itself seriously with a proper story, new mechanics, new events and new unitsThe horde and legion btfo
>>1371587>never coming out, also deadYou wish
>>1372225not him but i agree and i wish it whood come out
>>1372088>I'll never understand why devs prioritize useless economic gimmicks over actual gameplayThere is a certain class of "people" that like to masturbate over modern monetary theory and shill it on all mediums as it fails in real life; One of those "people" unfortunately got their claws into TNO
>>1372350>>1372225The problem most TNO redux fags have is they have too much of an ego to admit that Panzer's orginal work was good and fork it from that. So you have all these toozer mods like Iron Grip that don't realize they signed themselves up for years of work to replicate TNO but that is OK because they will just tooze forever instead
>>1372099It is a poweful mod, but it seems that its devs are wasting their efforts on things that don't really matter. It's already aberrant to make a visual novel out of a wargame, trying to cram some half-assed economic model in there as well is just ridiculous
>>1372400>real tnoreduxism has never been tried
Anyone got a guide for Guangdong? I'm going for a Sony run and there's so much shit that I don't know what I should focus on.
>>1372400they proved they weren't all talk when they released it
>>1372659As Guangdong, your yearly goal is to hit the GDP target. The long-term goal is to overtake Manchuria in GDP and become the No.3 power in the Sphere. To do this, deficit spend most of the time to increase GDP growth.1. Legislative Council. How many representatives each corporation (political party) has in the legislature. As Sony you are in charge of the two weakest factions; Cheung-Kong and Sony. In other play throughs, you can mostly ignore the panel, except to check the outcomes of legislation, but since Sony typically struggles with seats, it becomes quite important. Typically a Sony player will have to make deals with other parties to get legislation passed, if you have to give up seats, give them up to Matsushita first, as they are more sympathetic than the other two. A few seats will be taken away annually.2. Regions of Guangdong. Who is in charge of law and order in each province. The Kempeitai (military police) (red), civilian police (blue), Yakuza (pink) or Triads (Green). Your aim is to get overall cicilian police control in as many as you can as they provide a negative ticker to corruption. As a Sony sister you can use the triads to reduce kempaitai and yakuza influence and boost police and triad influence. Focus on getting rid of Kempeitai as a priority as they provide the larger corruption maluses.
Uruguay tooser
>>13727873. Silicon Delta. Ignore the research priorities. Or don't, it's a largely inconsequential systemWhen the product cycle comes around, do what you can to max out the product quality and anticipation, as they provide massive bonuses to GDP. The three months or so this bonus to GDP spending is active should be the only time you cut spending to try and reduce debt. If you can keep debt to GDP under 25% it gives some minor bonuses, but I prefer to max GDP growth when possible.4. Three evils of Guangdong. Chinese influence is your relationship with the Republic of China, Sony sisters typically have no problem here. Japanese influence is your relationship with Tokyo, try not to let it dip below 80% or so as it comes in handy in the end-game. Both provide ticking buffs if you keep them high enough. Click on the option to talk to either consulate when you remember as it provides Story and has some use in the end game.Corruption is the most impactful of the three as it affects PP and GDP, the two most important resources. Keep it as low as possible. Sony's right-hand path deals with corruption, so if you need a break from barely passing legislation with your 25 council members, go down that tree.5. Military testing. Occasionally you get the chance to participate in proxy wars. Make sure to always pick the Sony option. You goal here is simply to fulfil the training objectives. That's it. You don't even need to win battles. Click the button if you are running out of experimental equipment. Hit at least 3 goals minimum, hitting all 5 gives nice bonuses. This mechanism plays into the bad end quite nicely.
>>1372659As Suzuki get your debt as low as possible. Yasuda crisis will increase it by around 10-20%, so you want it low so it doesn't affect yourfiscal health.
>>1372659A few more tips the other anon missed.-This is a bit obvious but as Suzuki, don't go all in with the Morita plan or inflate the auction prizes. Doing so harms Sony's seats.-Get triad control in 3 of the 4 rural areas, as those are the ones with the most chinese pop.-The last branch you should do is forming the anti-corruption agency. Forming it locks you out of bribing seats, so doing it early is the worst mistake you can make, especially since Sony struggles a lot with legco support.-You don't need to go full Cheung Kong or full Sony, the ending is decided during and after the oil crisis, not during the main tree, so don't worry and choose what you want.
Can the larp-regime in Paraguay survive or is it railroaded to COLLAPSE no matter what?
>>1372851Yes it can, it even invades Bolivia during the Oil Crisis,resulting in Falangist Santa Cruz
>>1372854That's cool. But what's up with Santa Cruz anyways, wouldn't they just annex it?
>>1372857Annexation is the goal yes, but it's a lengthy process. Rather than annexing them outright, which would just alienate the Santa Cruz population, Paraguay and the Santa Cruz collabs are running an extensive propaganda campaign to "de-bolivianize" the population (as in "you're not bolivians, Paraguay is our true brother").
>>1372790Ah yes, ururguay we definately were looking forward to a nation that cannot do anythingUpdate Italy you niggerfaggots
>>1372787>>1372794>>1372800>>1372807But what about dealing with Guangdong oil crisis? I don’t know what the fuck am I doing most of the time. It seems like your entire goal is to disband or destroy the 2 revolting organizations but some how you have to take an approval from LegCo but they votes against me for some reasons.
>>1373063More government dispair = more votes. Don't make too much concessions, just the bare minimum. As for dismanteling, just savescum the event chain or look at the code to find out what are the good choices
>>1372787>deficit spendWhat is that? I don't think I've played a nation that actually had to care about the economics system before.>>1372807>Get triad control in 3 of the 4 rural areasWhat would that do, increase the chink opinion?
>>1373081>What would that do, increase the chink opinion?Yes. Triads are extremely good as Sony because native opinion is arguably the most scarce resource and they don't have corruption gain unlike with other CEOs
>>1373081Deficit spending means you spend more than you gain (basically the opposite of having a surplus). Having a deficit is good because it boosts your GDP growth but be careful because it also increases your debt (and as Guangdong, you want it to be at least lower than 25%). It's also recommeded to have your deficit be lower than your Real GDP growth (which is Nominal GDP Growth minus Inflation), otherwise your debt will start skyrocketing. Basically if your deficit is green, it's a healthy deficit, if it's red, you better lower your spending (army and social especially).Also remember to alternate between the "Fresh from the presses" and "Counting our pennies" monetary policies when their effectiveness reach 100% and to raise taxes (aka Temp Tax Hike) every time you can (except during product cycles).
>>1373132>Also remember to alternate between the "Fresh from the presses" and "Counting our pennies" monetary policies when their effectiveness reach 100%Wait, the "Fresh from the presses" just gives you baseline +1% GDP growth after 5 months, while "Counting our pennies" reduces baseline inflation by up to 20% after 10 month, if I remember correctly? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to stick to "Fresh from the presses" if the baseline inflation is below 5% and to apply "Counting our pennies" if it's more to maximize real GDP growth?
>>1373230Maybe, I'm no expert
>>1373233Well, I've certainly understood the Toolbox Theory mechanics quite a lot better after playing the TNO for second time ever as Guangdong - Sony.
>>1373244Not bad, but you can do better. Iirc Sony can get 60B, maybe 65B, by dec 72.
>>1373258Again, it was my first ever experience with TBT, so yeah, mistakes were made
>>1373244>>1373258How?Also, isn't it better to drop the spending to everything to the minimum except for administration? Or does investing into shit bring up the GDP no matter what it is.
>>1373269Lower spending helps with deficits, but it also means slower GDP growth. It's a game of balance. Ideally, you debt should contract or stay static, as proportion of GDP, despite growing in absolute value, e.i. if your GDP grows by 1 billion, your debt should grow by 1 billion or less.In the long run, you should try to improve or at least maintain your credit rating, so it doesn't degrade.
>>1373303>shilling MMT while banks are failing in real timeEpic, just epic TNO economyfags
>>1373312I'm just following the in-game logic, nothing less, nothing more
>>1373312MMT? Also yeah spending more while getting more and more debt that you just put back into the company just asks for someone else to fail and bring the whole system down. Kind of what happens with Yasuda, though not really as impactful as you'd expect.
>>1373325Modern Monetary Theory
>>1373337qrd?
>>1373303Do you get higher GDP just for non-military spending or for military shit too?
>>1373366Any spending increases your deficit, and having a deficit increases your GDP growth.
>>1373402One last question, what's the best path to go down first in Sony's tree? I've been thinking police to lower that corruption then economy.
>>1373531Actually, since it's so hard to pass legislation as Sony, it's best to do corruption last so you can use corrupt tactics to pass the economy legislation
>>1373565Can't you just hold out on the last focus that actually forms the anti-corruption thingie and use the previous ones for a quick corruption reduction?
>>1373350>debt is good actually>inflation is good actually>just print more money if you get in trouble>there is no way this system could ever implode, don't look at early China
>>1373584Couldn't say, I haven't tried. I'd drop a save and try your idea. That sounds like a good idea
>>1373958I tried it after sending the post, it actually went pretty well. I got very high corruption through less than scrupulous means and the focuses helped me get rid of some. Since it doesn't start a vote in LegCo until the very last one, you can keep doing every other focus like usual.>>1373956What happened in early China? I remember something about hyperinflation but idk anything concrete. Early republican China isn't really talked about, at all.
>>1373956>inflation is good actually>just print more money if you get in troubleinflation and printing money are bad things in TNO
>>1363837>imagine thinking the tranny mod would allow thisNo fun allowed. They've removed more than added since November 2020.
>>1374004>redditspacing >randomly bringing up trannies typical redditism
>>1374015Turns out redditors are more based than /vst/ discordtrannies
Total Sony Victory. ignore the 50% debt to gdp ratio.I kinda wanna go do a technocracy playthrough now with Ibuka, but I also wanna do some actual war stuff. What are some less recommended but still good warlord factions? Are the west siberian people's republic or the ural military district fun?
>>1374033>What are some less recommended but still good warlord factions?Idk if it's recommended a lot, but I like Serov's Komi because he can intervene in proxy wars. This is why I also enjoy playing as commie unifiers, being able to intervene in global conflicts makes the regional and superregional stages much more fun.
>>1374037I think I've played Serov before, back when TNO first came out and he couldn't do that. Is this a new thing or was I simply retarded and didn't realise I could send volunteers?
>>1374039Don't know if it's new or not, but I remember being able to send volunteers when I played as Serov a few months ago.
>>1374033>What are some less recommended but still good warlord factions?Father Men
>>1374047He doesn't have a focus tree.
>>1374047
>>1374048He did when I played him
Any tips for margin call guangdong?
>>1374060>margin callWhat is that?>>1374052Got removed recently for some reason. I don't remember what the reason was, but I kind of remember people here saying that they misrepresented him.
>>1374081It got removed because they couldn't get him to work with the new Smuta mechanic, I heard
>>1374083What new Smuta mechanic? I don't think I played a warlord since they added it.
>>1374081The hardest difficulty setting.
>>1374088Holy shit, I didn't know there were difficulty settings.
>>1374081>I don't remember what the reason wasApparently no one wanted to make a new tree for him.And since TNO is a volunteer thing, that means a whole country was removed for nothing but laziness
Genuine question, why did the japs name their stuff the co-prosperity sphere? With how much they were evilmaxxing during the war, you'd have to wonder why they even kept pretenses up of "helping other asian countries".I'm historically illiterate when it comes to the pacific war though, so idk if they treated anyone who wasn't China any better.
>>1374444Actually, Japan, like Germany followed international regulations and codes of conduct very well. It was only because they lost did their enemies lie about how they were. They really did seek co-operation between East Asians.
>>1374444Panasianism, or the idea of cooperation betwean east-asian peoples against western imperialism, was probably the principal ideology of the Japanese Empire. However, the military just used it as propaganda and as an excuse to expand Japan's own empire. The few "true", genuine panasianists, like Ishiwara Kanji (dude had pretty crazy ideas like annexing Manchuria and making Hsinking the new capital of Japan) for example, got shafted or fell into irrelevancy.
Afghanistan tooser
>>1374088thanks doc
>>1374597>afghanistan content>still no content for Finland or Colombia despite the five morbillion events they have
>>1374748Afghanistan is not getting playable content, just skeleton
>>1365854TNO wants to have it's cake and eat it. They want both a serious story about nazism and retarded over the top bullshitTaboritsky is straight up character assassination. IRL he was a german collaborator with some monarchist views. His biggest contribution to history is being responsible for loliWagner is even worse. IRL he was a slavionophile pagan anti-intellectual (with a nazi bent, admittedly). Even if they wanted a nazi unifier his brand of nazism is inconsistent with Russian ot let alone any other naziYazov is just sad. While in TNO he's portrayed as some HARD man making HARD decisions while HARD irl he half-assed GKChPSablin is a meme. His attempt to change government ended up with him getting kneecapped by his second in command after a couple of hours
>>1374767Your mixing up the early TNO and nuTNO design philosophies, it's not that they want to do both at the same time, but that old content contradicts the new vision
>>1374560idk how i can tell from just a 4chan post but you definitely eat your own boogers and have problems with personal hygiene
>>1374767>His biggest contribution to history is being responsible for loliwhat
>>1374787Taboritsky killed the father of the guy who wrote lolita which in turn created lolicon culture in japan.One could theorize that if Tabby didn’t kill his father he might not have made lolita like our own TL.
>>1374775yeah sure i'm also a chud and an incel
The main theme of Lech i Rus: Lamentation by @Edgar Harford https://youtu.be/74LbBrinAe8
I got an idea for a fun new proxy war; Amur (japan) vs Magadan (USA)
>>1374924Wouldn't work because Magadan and Amur can also simultaneously be at war with other warlords due to the new Smuta mechanic. It would make unification in the far east extremely unbalance because Chita and Yagoda/Sablin don't get volunteers.
Why is Japan trying so hard to suppurt some warlords in Africe like Madagascar and Angola when they can't even keep order in their backyard losing Philippines every time and letting China get too powerful?
>>1374991Why is Germany trying so hard to support some warlords in Colombia and Congo when they can't even keep order in their backyard losing Eastern Europe every time and letting Russia get too powerful?
>>1374991>>1374995Although most likely not the reasoning they're using in the lore, it would make sense for powers losing their temporary hard power to invest in their future soft power through these relatively cheap proxy wars.
>>1375003the real reasoning is that it's old/rushed lore and they didn't give much thought
>>1375003Waging useless war is not how you get soft power
>>1375007>useless warGood thing the proxy wars in TNO aren't useless, then. From a lore perspective atleast.
>>1375007>Wouldn't work because Magadan and Amur can also simultaneously be at war with other warlords due to the new Smuta mechanic. It would make unification in the far east extremely unbalance because Chita and Yagoda/Sablin don't get volunteers.>>1375004>>1375003>>1374995>>1374991Why is America trying so hard to support some warlords in Ukraine and Iraq when they can't even keep order in their backyard losing control of the South and Latin America?
what do you think the april fools joke is gonna be this time around? dubs say something atlantropa but bigger
>>1372854based latino team bringing us crazy as shit paths without the usual cliche bullshit
>>1374560I can believe it about Germany, I will never believe it about bugmen of any kind.
>>1361146To this day, nobody explained to me why the Russia Region was the most developed at the outset but Moscowien is still a completely empty region content-wise.This isn't a shitting on all the other content that was added, it just feels like someone left a paragraph half-written.
>>1375359Because the germans are comically evil and destroyed all industry in moscowien
>>1369683the tranny larped as the mascot, it had nothing to do with him
>>1372790i couldn't give less of a shit about South America.There is a reason its ignored in 99% of all mods.
>>1361146Worst HOI4 mod.
>>1365981That was the main 'selling' point of their mod. How can they remove it? lmao
>>1363669I just listened to "Lebensraum" and my GOD that song is awful.
>>1375421Because it sucked lol
>>1375414your loss, Cold War South American politics are extremely crazy
>>1375359Alright, just for you: Russia past Moskowien is pretty much its own region, and was considered as such in dev. It had its own team who had handled everything. Moskowien, being an RK and therefore property of the Reich, fell to the "Reich Development" team. "Reich Development" was led by Panzer, who is seriously one of the worst leaders i've ever seen only surpassed by Peter III and Kerensky. He's like Sosnowsky's hogweed of leadership: extremely invasive, useless, harmful and resilient. As such, even when other teams were basically ready like China, Japan or Asia (even the US and fucking England whose entire past code was written by a schizophrenic with dyslexia), Reich basically remained at barely Speer-Bormann-Goering content and had to relocate Heydrich to the update mines. The only RK to get any content out of this shit was Ostland because they had nowhere to go after the teasers. If they actually went after Moskowien a little bit, you'd only get Bormann and Goering at release.
>>1375007well the thing is that the person who wins the proxy wars also gets too make the nation a part of their economic sphere so there is absolutely a reason why winning is important. from an in-universe POV making it so that the middle east or africa trades with you first is quite important as it helps your economy while fucking your rivals over.
>>1375181Atlantropa but they actually drain the atlantic this time
>>1369683she cute tho.Alpha/Monarchist russia is cuter
>>1374941yeah I guess it won't worka shame because Russia has literally zero interaction with the outside world except for the Murmansk and Kazakhstan wars. it just feels like there should be more meddling going on there.
>>1375359Moscowien actually had at least descriptions for leaders and national spirits for each of the breakaways before this fucking LE SCARS OF EUROPE edgy prose shit
Is the mod fun yet?Don't answer, I already know the answer is "No"
>>1375538>CIA puppet A does something against CIA puppet B with help from unwitting CIA asset X Y & Zwow so.... *yawn* cool
>>1375725>necrophilic generals>occultist puppetmasters>the entire nazi deepstate in Latin America>not cool
>>necrophilic generals>>occultist puppetmasters>>the entire nazi deepstate in Latin America>>not coolnobody cares
>>1375806>booru filenameConsider suicide.
>>booru filename>Consider suicide.
>>1375817I guarantee whoever drew this has never touched a woman that wasn't their own mother.>muh tranime pedosforced ass meme
>>1375828touched a nerve?
>>1375831You're a colonist and you aren't welcome here. Go back to /r/4chan or whatever the fuck anywhere that isn't here
>>1375836You've been here since 2016 at best
>>1375837You are literally posting redditjaks with non-4chan filenames.
>>1375838I know that 4chan exclusivity seems cool when you're a chronic newfag, but you're never going to fit in stop embarrassing yourself
>>1375842Are you going to post sadfrogs at me next? Holy fucking shit. Talk about projection.HAHA GUYS LOOK HOW BASED I AM I HATE ANIME AND POST WOJAKS JUST LIKE YOU
I've got you on the ropes
>>1375847At least try to reply to me directly, faggot
>>1375943oop the "oldfag" returns lmao
>>1375945Why do you keep doing these slimy wordgames?Putting oldfag in quotes when you brought up le 2016 for no reason at all. Why is that date important to you? Is that when you came here? Considering just how obsessed you are with le gemjaks or whatever the fuck you autistic retards call them now.
imagine getting this mindbroken because someone depicted you as a basedjak
>>1375181TNO is a dead mod they won't even bother doing an April Fools toozer-tier update
>>1376047>TNO is a dead modYou've been saying this for two years
>>1376098nobody outside of its small, discord dwelling sperg fanbase remembers or plays this garbage. He is literally right.
>>1365990but the lore makes as much sense as i want an extreme hoi4 mod to make sense.
>>1375970Soijaks are a representation of everything wrong with 4chan.They're a low effort, low creativity template that literally everyone uses instead of making OC like in ye olden days.
Let’s get back to the point.Anyone know how to dismantle the guangdong riots?
>>1376465get government despair high and negotiate or savescum the dismantlement event chain
>>1376385/qa/ and basedjaks have been the only semblance of originality and the old 4chan you claim to be part of./qa/ was the only board with an organised raid culture and its off site continuation has done more in terms of content creation and old style 4chan raiding in the last few years of its creation than anything this normiefied and sanitised site has done in 15. It doesn't represent "everything wrong with 4chan" its just that everyone who contributed to the site has fucked off because its mainstream garbage now, so jakkin is the only notable fucking thing to have crawled out of this shithole of a advertiser friendly site, yet blatant tryhard newfags love to LARP as the vanguards of some old mysterious and precious oldfag kultur when you started browsing here in 2015 at most.It can't even be claimed that 4chan has good discussion either, every board on this site that is "good" has a far better equivalent on lainchan or other chan sites, and these other #chan sites have way more real oldfags than 4chan; the reddit of chan sites
>>1376574/qa/ lost, faggotYou guys are monomaniacally fixated on muh jaks
>>1376155Not even paradox youtubes are interested in it anymore.
>>1376574no one likes wojacks other than edgy kids and deranged schizosthey're the definition of a forced meme
>>1374756Why bother.
>>1375198What else goes in in South America besides Paraguay larpers?I vaguely remember Chile having a civil war with Nazi colonists but maybe that was fanmade.
Is there an archive of /vst/?I want to find a funny greentext I read in one of these threads
>>1376574t.2016 ESL forcing their noxious “culture” on us. can’t wait for you guys to all get conscripted and then killed in ukraine lol
>>1376601https://arch.b4k.co/vst/
>>1376615Thank you!
>play Amur>get too the parts where he essentially gives away his entire country too the Japs >the fucking letter too germany>constantly screaming like a manchildRodkaevsky or however it's spelled... God he's just so pathetic I couldn't keep playing because I genuinely didn't want too be in control of that shitty Guy and his nation. although I can appreciate his love of cute cats.
>>1376604remember when you hated poland and didn't give a single shit about russia i 'memberit's funny that i both agree with you re: the 'jak question and hate you because you're fucking obsessed with a group of people who are statistically insignificant on /vst/
>>1376656que
>>1376660that wasn't a hard sentence to read, sonare you actually an ESL
>>1376662Not him but i dont read hillbilly or ebonics lol
>>1376790>not him>loleslposter please you're the most distinct poster on this entire board
>>1376583>>1376592Even a forced meme spitting shithole like the sharty is 10x better than this site unironically.
>>1376861then fuck off
>>1376817I am one of the pony posters that every now and then posts on hoi threads teehee
>>1376897better mod than TNO, though that isn't saying much
>>1376897Teaser?
>>1376912ACKCHTUALLY literally yes, harmonic sirenalia, around mid to late game of fascist sirens Sonata and Aria get cold feet about the whole destroying the world with their kleptocratic state and try to do right their wrongs
>>1376927I did a Sirenalia playthrough like 2 days ago thinking it already came out. I was miffed when I got to the end and it said "ok now leave bye!"
>>1376929If you make Sonata do all the morally good choices you get a TOOOOOOZER for harmonic Sirens in-gameDev currently is REVAMPING the entire equestria continent, but once thats done this year next is returning to sirens
>>1376901Better than golden age tno and nu tno, and thats not saying much because tno is a one trick pony haha and alot of its selling points have been so severly gutted that even my discord normie pals are aware of how different its been changed, EAW also out edges golden era tno and nu tno.Its been forever since this has been a fact./smug smile/
>>1376639DO YOU GET IT YET?RIGHT WINGERS ARE... LE BAD!LEFT WINGERS ARE GOOD!WE WILL FORCE THIS MESSAGE IN EVERY COUNTRY UNTIL YOU LIKE IT
>>1376929I recommend you doing the griffon illuminati/masons literally the conspiracy theory version of the freemasons and illuminati combinedTheir focus tree has the shape of the famous eye of providence (eye on the pyramid), they are on broadfeld, to get them you play with King Kloseu and complete two NASOM dam focuses in the industrial tree without taking any focus in the political tree, then you unlock the path, you will be send riddles with questions to see if you are worthy of the masons save scum the shit out of them, once you are accepted the masons make King Kloseu a mason and he becomes a puppet king.Also King Kloseu himself is a very fun leader, he is a king who decides to help the common griffon from the abussive royalty, only for the royalty to abuse his laws and screw the commoners even harder, wich makes him go insane and develop boiling hatred for communism and becomes a cartoonishly wacko leader tired of being screwed over so he decides for a world wide crusade on communism..... or you can snap him out of it and aim even harder on helping the commoners (and succeed)
>>1377017Rodz is not bad because he's right wing, he's bad because he's a nazi.
>>1377113brainrot addled HOI kiddies can't process that they don't have to defend every single right wing ideology just because they're le epic dark MAGA drumpftards - they need to defend anything right of center because they are so juvenile they see every flavour of right winger as being "their team"
>>1377123ts ts regardless... defending shit ideologys irl is cringe yes, nazis are evil and against god so they lose yes, but when it comes to muh fictional harmless stories theres nothing wrong in just having fun with writen missery porn or having the bad guys win.
>>1377133The bad guys already won in TNO
>>1377134With how much nu devs are changing the game it makes you wonder how the nazis even came so far, fascist just take big fat L's this days in the TNO world, really ruins the suspension of disbelief also why stop there? Why cant they just... keep winning? While also preserving the paths where they lose.
>>1377145If you're going to keep avatar fagging at least post rainbow dashs' sweet skittle flavoured cunt
>>1377151Oh you~~~
>>1376465savescum dismantlement, that's what I did.
Is it true that they remove some stuff for being unrealistic?
>>1377199The commie utopias remain, the experiment that never took off in REAL LIFE is fine aparently.
>>1377113>nazis... LE BAD!how original
>>1377208Hitler lost
>>1377228Yet Hitler will win. Funny how that works.
>>1377228And yet the West has turned him into a demon that it cannot escape from a century later. They are so frozen by it that when Asia comes knocking they will either gridlock themselves or make themselves into a mirror of what they *think* that demon to be.Also, with all this off topic politics sperging can we finally admit TNO is dead?
>>1377145>Why cant they just... keep winning?They can. Speer wins. The fuhrers will be able to win in their rework. And if you saw the PW leak you'd know the Duces have an epilogue tree where they solidify their power and look for a successor.
>>1377145>Completely ignores Goering getting reworked to a saner path>Ignores Speer Fascism>Ignores leaks of Borman preserving the Reich>Ignores Japan being able to win the Cold War>Ignores basically every Russian fascist>Ignores SA fascists>Ignores Thatcher>Pearlclutches "muh Franco" just because the path where Franco stays needs him to do just a tiny bit of decentralization
>>1377199No, they only remove stuff that are downright impossible (like Atlantropa and Burgundy being le shadow puppetmaster state) or contradict actual history not related to the Axis winning WW2 (black SS uniforms for example). The goal is not realism, but having a solid, consistent lore with less plotholes.
